King Charles ‘has a strategic need to resolve’ the Sussex issue, but still won’t apologize

In the past three-and-a-half years, the Windsors have tried and failed to stick to different messages about the Sussexit, the Sussex estrangement and the larger institutional and existential threats the Windsors face because of Prince Harry and Meghan’s thriving success outside of the royal establishment. The problems have only increased for the Windsors in the past year, following the death of QEII, who was not only a unifying figure for the nation and the family, but she was also the only person Harry and Meghan really respected and honored. Since her funeral, the new king has paid his advisors to come up with increasingly stupid strategies to deal with “the Sussex issue.” For months, it was “Charles is sanguine, he thinks the estrangement makes him look like a normal father!” But given that he literally just refused Harry’s simple request for one room for one night, Charles feels the need to change tack and go with a different media strategy: a detente must happen, but no apologies will be made to achieve the rapprochement.

No apologies: The friend of the king and Camilla told The Daily Beast that while Charles hopes to be able to build relations with Harry in due course, he would not be tempted to start dishing out apologies. They said: “It has been reported that Charles wants an apology from Harry, but that’s far from the case. [Charles] wouldn’t expect that. He knows the Windsors are a stubborn lot and Harry is no exception. The quid-pro-quo is, can Harry accept that he won’t be getting an apology either? Don’t forget that Charles authorized Jonathan Dimbleby to write a book which attacked his parents, but ultimately they all basically forgot about it, chalked it down to experience and moved on. Charles wants to hit the reset button—but not at any price.”

Dithering about having a conversation: While there is little doubt that an entente cordiale with the Sussexes would represent a win for King Charles, such hopes and dreams are balanced by concerns on the king’s side over the past years of doing anything that may breathe new life into the media narrative of a destructive royal feud. Arranging a meeting with Harry, no matter how cordiale, would risk doing just that. Indeed, the palace has been notably quick to quash as false rumors of “peace summits” or other tête-à-têtes in recent weeks. However, the fact that courtiers are understood to have told Harry he would be made welcome if he wished to visit his father at Balmoral earlier this month is “clearly a positive sign that things are moving in the right direction,” the friend said.

Charles’s priority isn’t Harry, BP’s briefings to the contrary: The friend said: “The Harry issue doesn’t have to be sorted out immediately but it will be sorted out eventually. Charles loves Harry but his priority is to fulfill his duty as king and not let his mother down. That means constitutional considerations have to come first.”

The Sussex estrangement makes Charles look like a dogsh-t father: Charles has inherited that instinct, but times have changed, and the reality is that, while people are sympathetic, the continued alienation of Harry and Meghan reflects poorly on Charles as a leader. It will only become an even more pronounced problem if his grandchildren, who are a prince and princess, grow up in California without any apparent contact with Harry’s family. And while royal sources like to give the impression that Charles has no need to hurry, the simple fact is that Charles is already 74. At the age of 73, he was the oldest person yet to ascend to the British throne. Given that both his parents lived well into their nineties, he is generally expected to do the same.

The William problem: But time is not, actually, on [Charles’s] side, and were something unthinkable to happen and Prince William to take the throne, even the most optimistic of palace spinners concede that an outbreak of brotherly love would be unlikely. William has remained implacably furious with his brother, outraged by what he sees as his betrayal of him and his family, and their privacy, for financial gain. He has no wish to see him, The Daily Beast understands from sources. Charles, however, does.

A strategic need: A former staffer who worked for the king in their time at Buckingham Palace, told The Daily Beast that Charles has a “strategic need to resolve the issue” of Harry’s estrangement from the family. The former staffer said: “It’s not sustainable for the king, who is the national symbol of unity, to be on such bad terms with his son that they haven’t been pictured together in years. Ultimately Charles has not just a personal but also a strategic need to resolve the issue.”

It’s all in Camilla’s hands, actually: “The division between state and family is sacrosanct so Camilla will be pivotal in all this,” the source added, “She is the only one who will be in a position to advise him who he will listen to. She is a pragmatist and I’m sure she understands the importance of putting this saga to bed.”

[From The Daily Beast]

Yeah, the issue is that it’s always been Camilla advising him, and Camilla likes where things are now, so that’s how things will stay – Camilla managed to get her way at every level. Charles’s first wife is dead, Camilla found a way to drive a wedge between Diana’s sons, she figured out a way to get the clever, charismatic son exiled and the other brother is malleable and stupid, as is his wife. This is Camilla’s monarchy. But I agree with the “sources” saying that Charles needs detente for strategic reasons. Too bad he can’t problem-solve his way out of a paper bag and simply treat Harry like a much-loved son, and simply offer the Sussexes a thorough apology explicitly for the sake of his grandchildren. Like, just on a managerial level, Charles sucks at this. At a parental level, the bar is in hell.

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  1. Brassy Rebel says:

    We all need to apologize so none of us will is Charles’ solution. Of course, it won’t work because it’s based on the false premise that Harry needs to apologize too. And I’m genuinely surprised that Sykes went there: the Dimbleby book.

    Pretty sure no apology to Meghan is a non-starter for Harry.

    • Jais says:

      The Dimbleby book is really what makes all their outrage so meaningless. As Sykes says, Charles “attacked” his parents in a book. The difference seems to be that his parents didn’t punish him by evicting him. Somehow everyone just forgot about it?Charles really wants it all just to be forgotten about so he can play the nations’s king and kind grandfather. But he’s petty and beholden to Camilla.

    • Couch Potato says:

      I almost choked on my tea when Dimbleby’s book was mentioned. The rota usually “forget” about that. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find out some of the the rota reads the comments here. They have picked up things before.

      “…the fact that the courtiers are understood to have told Harry he would be made welcome if he wishes to visit his father…”. This is supposedly coming from a friend of the king? Any real friend who knew about the subject would’ve said the king have made it clear Harry is welcome. Either it comes from a courtier or it’s BS.

      • Shawna says:

        Look at all the “what ifs” in that quote: “are understood…,” “would be…,” “if he….” All fantasy.

    • nona93 says:

      Can we PLEASE get this right once and for all.
      1. A beautiful and clever articulate coloured American woman won the heart of a Prince. Meghan Markle offered a massive opportunity to bring an exceptional bi-racial talent to the Royal Family that would have pleased so many in the Commonwealth countries who see racism as part of the Royal family that was built on and sustained by the historical proceeds of slavery in the cotton fields.
      2. She and Prince Harry were acclaimed BUT there was another woman of far lesser accomplishment or ability, Kate Middleton, whom Queen Camilla has described as working class and “too common” for Prince William and the monarchy even insulting Kate’s parents by saying ‘Meet the Fockers’. But Kate had already spent years weaseling her way into the royal family by seducing Harry’s brother, a weak Prince William, and had her eyes firmly set on a privileged future of great wealth and title until Meghan came along. She and William were gutted to have this talented woman suddenly competing for public recognition. Meghan was questing for knowledge, articulate and loved connecting with people and people loved her.
      3. This could not be allowed to develop any further. William was the future of the monarchy and Kate pivotal to that stability. Everything suddenly changed from adulation to persecution of Meghan by the press of the Royal Rota who did as they were told and, as Harry described in ‘SPARE” wrote some of the most heinous, horrible things about us.” Meghan was devalued by insult, lies and distortion and accused of bullying and expected to buckle instead of which her strength of character, fully supported by Harry, made them decide they had to to leave the toxic royal family. Since then the tabloid press has caused as much conflict as possible.
      Harry wrote in ‘SPARE’ “The saddest part of that is certain members of my family and the people that work for them are complicit in that conflict,” he added.
      He stated that the “leaking” and “planting” of “a royal source” to the press “is not an unknown person, it is the palace specifically briefing the press, but covering their tracks by being unnamed.”
      Prince Harry added that he thinks “that’s pretty shocking to people. Especially when you realize how many palace sources, palace insiders, senior palace officials, how many quotes are being attributed to those people, some of the most heinous, horrible things have been said about me and my wife, completely condoned by the palace because it’s coming from the palace, and those journalists have literally been spoon-fed that narrative without ever coming to us, without ever seeing or questioning the other side.”
      4. Since the death of Elizabeth 11 the monarchy has been in turmoil trying to control the mayhem they have caused which could have been avoided by embracing Meghan and managing egos. They are now fighting a battle to retain relevance, immense wealth and privilege for themselves beyond the imagination of ordinary folk and even trying to get a royal foothold in Harry and Meghan’s country of choice to destroy their popularity and humanitarianism.

      Americans should be proud of Meghan who epitomizes the right and courage to be free to choose how you lead your life.

  2. Talie says:

    Someone on Twitter speculated that this may be about getting a photo with all his grandchildren for his 75th Birthday.

    Interesting that these articles started appearing after we found out Harry refused Balmoral, and then those distasteful pieces came out about how they blocked him from a room for one night. I think the Sussexes are no longer engaging at all and it’s becoming scary for them. There used to be fire and now it has become indifference which for the royal advisors must be awful. They can’t feed the press anything if H&M are over trying to reconcile.

    • Teddy says:

      That’s a very good point about how alarming the lack of engagement from the Sussexes is becoming for KP. No matter the newest line of attack, it’s met with a big shrug.

      • swaz says:

        Now it’s the Royals that are talking 🙄 they’re almost begging the Montecito Royals to engage 🙄

      • Flower says:

        It’s literal death for a Narc parent when a scapegoated child stops engaging.

        Any power they once had is over. Charles will be well aware of that.

        I also believe Charles wants some glamour shots for his 75th and they possibly tried to negotiate with Harry who in turn refused to engage with the idea of using his children for PR.

    • Hyuna says:

      Charles doesn’t want to get a photo with all his grandchildren. If he cared, he would have insisted that Archie, Lili, and their mother attend the coronation, which would have been a great opportunity to get a group photo with the family. He is not interested in his two grandchildren and doesn’t want a relationship with them.

      • Sue says:

        It’s the photo opt he’s interested in. Like the photo of the queen and her great grandchildren photoshopped around her. He only cares about himself and Camilla.

      • Kingston says:

        I’m surprised that gossips are STILL failing to make the link between the estrangement and the thing that will get H to “reconcile” with is father.: “Apologise to my wife.”

        The end.

        (or, in this case, The Beginning). As in, after the apology, then we’ll consider what form the future relationship will take.

      • Shawna says:

        Even further, he wasn’t interested in seeming like he cared by securing that photo-op.

    • BQM says:

      This is what I said the other day. Harry’s done. There’s no Diana statue, funeral, jubilee, coronation to deal with. Until Charles (or maybe Camilla) dies, there’s no familial reason for Harry to visit. The coronation marked the beginning of his total freedom from negotiating anything with courtiers. And the BM can’t stand it.

    • Robert Phillips says:

      More and more articles are slowly going after the royals. It’s just little digs right now. But those make the public remember that happened. So they will keep getting bigger and bigger. Since the reporters can’t get anything from H&M. The are starting to go after Charles and William. Which is why I still believe that Charles will abolish the monarchy. Before enough stuff comes out about him. That will totally turn the public against him. And without any public support. The royals won’t get away with as much of the loot they stole over the decades. And might even have to leave the commonwealth.

      • Patricia says:

        Well said, Robert Phillips, Charles , Camilla, William and Kate will eventually cause the fall of the house of Windsor. It really is only a matter of time. C&C are the operative force in this scenario, they have no interest is bringing Harry back, Camilla will never allow it. William and Kate are supporters of C&C but are deeply threatened by any rapproachment.
        It interests me that they talk about family values with the Windsors. It seems the Spencers are fully supportive of H&M. For all we know, he may be staying with his aunts when in the UK. Isn’t that family values? There has never been “good” blood for the Spencers and C&C.
        Personally I am sick to death with this ridiculousness and fully hope that that horrid “side piece”will eventually bear the responsibility for the fall of the Windsors. It’s exactly what she and her precious baby boy king deserves. He is actually still a child emotionally.

    • Wannabefarmer says:

      Why do people keep saying that Harry asked for a room at Windsor? Knowing what we know of Harry, do we really think he would go begging for a room there? Do we really believe that Harry has no pride? Really?

      • Jaded says:

        Yeah, talk about walking into a hornet’s nest. The spying and leaking to the tabloids would be crazy. There’s no way Harry would expose himself like that. He’s got good friends in high places who can offer him a peaceful and safe place to stay on his infrequent visits to Salt Isle.

      • Kingston says:


        Thank yiu.

        I side-eye gossips and gossip blogs push this narrative. Its beginning to look like
        theyve been incentivised to do so.

    • May says:

      LOL, @talie about Charles perhaps wanting to have all of his grandkids in a photo. He can just have them photoshopped in like they did with Louis in that last photo of the Queen with her white great-grandkids!

  3. therobinsons says:

    No apologies no go Chuckie…

    • 💯 agree!! The only thing Harry wanted was an apology just an apology!! I think that Harry was the one being gracious in just asking for that. Chuckles is a jerk who thinks his 💩 doesn’t smell and also was ordained by god( or whatever the correct term) so he doesn’t have to do anything. So Chuckles I guess you will have to keep dithering about this situation since you have the answer to fix it but refuse.

    • Christine says:

      I agree with both of you, so much. Not one of the garbage members of your “royal family” has said a single word in Meghan’s defense, EVER, Chuck. No one said “boo” when it was suggested she should be tarred and feathered, and paraded through the streets. NOT ONE.

      Harry asking for an apology is the very least you can do, and it’s all he’s asked for. He didn’t ask for a town crier to stand on the steps of 10 Downing Street and publicly apologize, FFS.

  4. equality says:

    I think PH would want assurances that C&C and their people would stop leaking to and cooperating with the media in putting out lies and nasty comments about H&M. That is the part that C&C would have trouble with. How do they think that it looks good for the leader of a church to be “too stubborn” to apologize?

    • acha says:

      And honestly, an apology for stirring up so much racist hate against Meghan that people are actively trying to kill her… is not enough. They need to put it into a contract that they’ll protect Meghan and their children. They need to bend over backwards to make amends.

      If that doesn’t happen, indifference is what they get.

      • Christine says:

        Agreed. An apology is not enough, but it’s all Harry asked for. One stupid apology, you absolute dinosaurs.

  5. Josephine says:

    Camilla’s end game is strange to me. Does she just want to burn the monarchy down while sucking it dry for her loser relatives? Cause that’s what it feels like. It’s certainly not her legacy because no one is going to remember her for anything other than the drinking and torturing Diana.

    • SURE says:

      She’ll rely on her media connections to ensure it doesn’t burn down whilst securing as many bags as possible for herself and her nearest and dearest. As Kaiser said, by stoking the disfunction between father and sons and between the two brothers, C knows that neither W or H will ever be able to influence KFC against her. She probably feared at one time that W and H would have more influence than her but she’s successfully managed to prevent that. She (and KFC) ruined a marriage as well as a father’s relationship with his sons (lucky for her KFC never seemed to care that much about his children).

      • acha says:

        In Spare, Harry details the time when Meghan went over to dinner with C&C for the first time. He says that Charles was vibrant and “on,” and really worked hard to be charming for Meghan.

        AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THE MOMENT when Camilla decided that Meghan had to go. I 100% believe it was from the very first meeting, realizing that Meghan was charming, hard-working, and intelligent, and that Charles would be absolutely overjoyed to be her in-law.

      • MsDoe says:

        Acha: Absolutely agree.

        Camilla is not “Team Windsor” and is not a team player. She has always been about herself and her own, and so would have perceived Meghan as a threat. And would have immediately begun working on destroying that threat.

    • Harper says:

      QRex is only interested in what she can grab in her lifetime and then bequeath to her spawns. As long as she can live in comfort at Ray Mill she’s good. If she gets bored, she can sic her press buddies on the current royal scapegoat, whomever that is. I imagine she would love an official Wales split announcement; the she can go after CarolE full time for laughs.

      • BizzatchExtrordinaire says:

        Agreed. She’s getting $$$ locked down and in her own name NOW. Willie can do whatever he wants with her royal legacy stuff if Charles goes first as far as she cares. She’s got hers, knows where the bodies are buried, and has others who know as well. Ray Mill, G&Ts, good wines, all of her horsey friends. Smooth sailing for her because she truly doesn’t give a sh*t. The whole grift is just sublime. Horrible people.

      • BQM says:

        The jewelry not accounted for isn’t with Kate as some people say. It’s with Camilla imo. There are tons of pieces that are personal property, like the Hyderabad necklace, not crown. Charles can gift her hundreds of pieces. Hell, he could leave her sandringham and Balmoral if he wanted. Those are the monarch’s personal property. It’s just tradition, and tax reasons, that they go to the monarch. George vi had to buy them back from his brother Post Abdication.

      • Gabby says:

        Does KFC even realize how much he has been played? What a dunce.

      • Lady D says:

        LOL, like father, like son.

    • Cessily says:

      So true.. if people thought the chant “Lizzie is in a box” was bad after the queen died just wait to see the chanting when the hate filled mistress goes. She and her leashed king will not be remembered well or at all outside of the isle.

    • bisynaptic says:

      It does seem so, doesn’t it.

  6. s808 says:

    I agree the horse in C’s ear and nothing will change. Charles is the one who stands to lose in that, H&M will continue to be fine and successful either way. I think they have both moved on and tbh, they look better the less they’re associated with the palace. Charles on the other hand looks like a shit monarch who can’t keep his house in order and a shit father/grandfather. The press knows that and this is their way of nudging the windors parker-bowles but they’ve dug their heels in and they ain’t budging, even to their down detriment.

  7. Maxine Branch says:

    Contrary to what many suggest, I believe any reconciliation or apology is in Meghan’s hands. From what I can see from afar, she has moved on and the trauma associated with being around those folks would be incredibly stressful for her and I do not think she would want her children around this charade.

    • equality says:

      In interviews she has said she supports PH trying to reconcile with his family and that she hopes one day their children will be able to have a relationship with family on both sides.

      • Amy Bee says:

        What interviews were those? It’s clear that Meghan has decided it’s not worth it to reconcile with the Royal Family.

      • Polo says:

        She said this in the cut interview. She said Harry and Charles’ relationship doesn’t have to be like her and her fathers.

      • Christine says:

        Yep, she outright said the words that it didn’t have to be the same for Harry and Chuck, as it is with her trash pile dad. I think it’s pretty clear that Meghan is 100% supportive of whatever Harry decides he wants to do with regards to his family.

    • diANNa says:

      It has been well-documented that Meghan sets boundaries for what is acceptable behaviour towards her. I believe that without an acknowledgement (and apology) for the many horrifying abuses directed at her during her stint as part of the royal family, that the Sussexes will not be open to any reconciliation. After all, what kind of modelling would that be for Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet?
      And that is likely why Meghan chose not to attend the coronation, and is unlikely to attend any future events which would broadcast that she is willing to just forgive and forget all the sh!t that happened to her.
      Charles is a bit trapped – his kingship is not going well, the people seem to be increasingly indifferent and/or turned off him and hence the strategic need to repair his relationship with Harry. But if he repairs his relationship, it would likely be known that he apologized in which case, the king would then also be acknowledging the role the he and the family played in allowing the BM to abuse Meghan and Harry, and also the family’s own role in having the abuse continue all these years. And that would also reflect poorly on him and I don’t know that he is man enough to do that.
      Although if that would increase his popularity and he is desperate enough, he just might . . . . H & M hold all the cards now with their indifference to being tied to the BRF.

      • Kingston says:


        This is exactly the position that chuckyDaTURD is in and the dilemma that he faces.

        And you are sooooo right about the modeling behaviour that H&M are doing for their kids. When it was just the 2 of them, they bore it for as long as they could. And then came their son and they said NOT ON OUR WATCH!!! And bounced.

        And with a godfather like Tyler, who has been tweeting affirmations and self-respect type tweets since the time leading up to the CONanation and beyond, it is clear that there will be no compromising of the stance on the apology, on the part of the Sussexes.

        The fact is, ever since Spare was published and H did his promo interviews, He has reinforced the point that there will be no return for him and his family to the institution, but that where the family is concerned, he looked forward to a reconciliation, PROVIDED that his father and brother first APOLGISED TO HIS WIFE for the abuse they sanctioned and allowed their staff to carry out.

        And those of us who have been paying attention and have seen how H has navigated his task-oriented travels to britain since betty’s funeral, know that he STUDIOUSLY AVOIDS the windsors. He has asked for no favors and has given no quarters.

        And he has not responded to the provocation by the usual suspects talmbout “permission” granted to visit a PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE crypt and “request for accommodation denied.”

        he has paid them DUST! And now its in all their eyes and theyre begging him to acknowledge them.

        He. wont.

      • Christine says:

        I love both of your comments so much.

  8. Christina says:

    So many younger people today are becoming estranged from parents who refuse to own their cruelty to their children. They don’t have the emotional tools to just apologize. Charles and Harry are no different.

    QE was not someone who shied away from being affectionate with Harry, and they appear to have had a more emotional relationship, and ther ability to “play the middle” seems to be why. She was forged as a leader, but she was raised not to be queen. She ascended by accident. She was raised to SERVE the king who abdicated. Charles was raised to be in charge. This gave QE skills to be more understanding of service and what it takes to get along.

    Charles thinks apologies are beneath him, and Camilla works that angle. QE may never have apologized, but she had some humanity and skills that Charles will never have.

    • Well Wisher says:

      One can love one’s estranged parents from a distance, where it is sometimes the only safe space….
      An apology must come from the right space.
      One must guard one’s soul……..

  9. Mrs. Smith says:

    I know it’s a pipe dream, but I would love to see Charles to go to Montecito. With or without Cams. THAT would be something.

    • SURE says:

      He was invited to Lili’s christening but chose not to go.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Charles can’t go to Montecito without letting the press know so that’s out of the question and as Sure said he was invited to Lili’s christening and chose not to go.

  10. girl_ninja says:

    Charles has never cared about anything but being king and getting his needs met.

    • Christina says:

      Exactly, Girl Ninja. Elizabeth was raised to serve King Edward, so she knew both sides of the coin.

      Elizabeth was raised as a spare, like Harry, and that forced her to grow in a way that Charles and Willian never will. They can’t conceptualize empathy, contrary to their marketing.

      • Valerie says:

        @Christina Elizabeth was 10 years old when Edward abdicated and her father became king. After that she was the heir and treated as such. Prior to that she was her Grandfather’s ( King) favourite. She never experienced the abuse as spare that Harry did. Margaret was raised as the the spare and look how that turned out.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        Because Edward didn’t have children, Elizabeth was always in the direct line to inherit the throne. If Edward never abdicated, Elizabeth would STILL have been queen. She was heir presumptive from the day she was born.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Edward was only 42 when he abdicated. He could easily have had children, so no, Lizzie wasn’t destined to be queen.

        In fact, during the abdication discussions some politicians planned to skip over Bertie to the next son on the list. Skipping his two existing daughters/heirs in the process. They ended up not doing that, because the third brother (Henry, Duke of Gloucester) was very fond of affairs with married women and had plenty of skeletons in his closet.

  11. Jais says:

    And let’s be for real, Charles does not get a reconciliation cookie for inviting Harry to balmoral when he absolutely knew it did not fit in Harry’s schedule to go to balmoral. Please🙄

    • Christine says:

      The part that bothers me the most about the Balmoral invite is it BEYOND unprofessional, coming from anyone, but you would think a king of an entire Commonwealth would recognize there was no chance Harry could keep his commitments to the organization HE CREATED, for an event they had been planning for YEARS, and go to Balmoral.

      It was a manipulation designed only for the sycophantic British media, and the idiots who can’t see the truth that is right in front of their eyeballs.

      My dad is a narcissist, who I haven’t spoken to for a decade and a half, at this point, and even he wouldn’t suggest shirking a business event that had been years in the making, for a last minute bullshit family obligation.

      If I were Harry, every single thing that came up from the Leftovers would be greeted with something inane, like “sorry, I promised Grandma Doria I would wash her car that day!”

      I know you aren’t all that clever, Chuck, but it has the stink of “I’m foraging for mushrooms that day” or “I have a very important state visit to France that day, and I’m just hoping you haven’t noticed that people in France want to behead me, so I’m not going.”

  12. Jensa says:

    There’s some very interesting wording here. Charles has a “strategic need” to resolve things – meaning it is seen as important for the monarchy. Which is quite an angle to take, considering the British media’s usual grovelling stance when it comes to Charles and William.
    Of course, Harry has no such need. He’s just off living his life and thriving. The whole world saw his effortless charisma at Invictus and the great success that event has become – and then when you look back at the flat, dull BRF, the contrast is striking.
    It’s clear the royal shitshow needs Harry more than he needs them.

    • ShazBot says:

      The strategic need is being able to play happy family. If you look at all the other monarchs in Europe releasing happy family photos (Sweden just did a big one), and knowing Charles cannot do that is not helpful for his image. Nobody cares about him alone, and certainly don’t care about more pictures of him and Camilla. And if he did a photo with just William and the Wales grandkids that’s drama of another kind.
      They are stuck for good PR for him and that is why it is strategic.

    • Gabby says:

      Agreed. I see this story as a classic Gutless Chuckles negotiation tactic. He needs the Sussexes on side to save his crumbling reign. Too bad for him that Harry doesn’t need anything from him badly enough to abandon his conditions: Accountability and Apology.

  13. BizzatchExtrordinaire says:

    Camilla IS a horrible person, but she can’t make Charles do anything he doesn’t want to. She just confirms and eggs on his naturally horrible instincts. They’re both hideous human beings. And I think he likes that she gets the heat, too, even if it makes him look weak.

    • Well Wisher says:

      I agree with the premise that she gives him permission to act in a particular way towards his son and family..

  14. Amy Bee says:

    I noticed that Meghan is not mentioned in this. Is it that Meghan has told Charles that she’s done with the family or is it that the family intent on ignoring Meghan in this whole thing? And Charles knows that he won’t get an apology from Harry because he knows that Harry has nothing to apologise for. Harry willingly took the abuse from the family and press for years for the sake of the family. To except that he would take the abuse against his wife and children was delusional.

    • Jaded says:

      I think it’s your first suggestion, that Meghan’s made it abundantly clear she wants nothing more to do with Harry’s family. I’m sure she’s supported any prior efforts he’s made at reconciliation but that now appears to be completely off the table. They’re both out of a horrifying situation and have the autonomy and the ability to direct their own lives, which they’re doing with great success.

      • SURE says:

        KFC wanting the world to know that M was not close family and the lack of support following the Jeremy Clarkson article would have been M’s “enough is enough” moment.

  15. ales says:

    Imagine if Harry and Meghan returned, Charles apologised and William and Harry sat down together and spoke about their problems. Khate could never allow this to happen under any circumstances, she is constantly undermining H and M to Charles and to W, fuelling his insecurities therefore ensuring that no one discovers how incompetent she is. Narcissists isolate their prey and remove anyone who is a threat. She might be a dunce but her commoner street fighting skills are first grade. Khate would never tolerate H and M returning to the UK. I feel Camilla would tolerate them.

    • QuiteContrary says:

      William is the one who would never allow this to happen. Kate has no power, though I agree that she’s mean and has keen (keen!) self-preservation skills.

      Charles is such a weakling. It really is Camilla’s reign.

  16. Chantal says:

    “All talk and no action” has replaced “never complain never explain”. Now that he’s made Cams a queen, C-Rex only strategy is to be the most greedy and vengeful king and the worst head of the Church of England. He’s off to a spectacular start…

  17. JMoney says:

    I don’t think this man has apologised for anything in his life and Harry knows this better than anyone so no I don’t think that will ever happen.

    • MsIam says:

      Exactly. Charles even blamed his affairs with Camilla on Diana so he and accountability are total strangers. I think this whole reconciliation angle is coming from the press anyway and not the palace. The press knows no one wants to see pictures and read stories about the Left Behinds. And now that Kate has exchanged her WWII costumes for wonky pantsuits, there’s not even any good fashion to talk about, not that Kate was ever fashionable .

  18. Pentellit says:

    I, @BelizeEmpower, has been suspended from the X but here I is…

    Now what kind of apples & oranges quid-pro-quo is this? “The quid-pro-quo is, can Harry accept that he won’t be getting an apology either?” cause the Windsors are a stubborn lot & Charles talked about his mama and everything was fine after that. Charles & crew did not just talk about Harry & Meghan, he evicted them, took away security, financial help, their behavior led Meghan to suicidal ideation & much more so, yeah, you were vicious in your attacks and need to apologize which I know is hard for an arrogant king, but more importantly a vile father.

    Another BS, “Charles loves Harry but his priority is to fulfill his duty as king and not let his mother down. That means constitutional considerations have to come first.” Dogsh*t father is right.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Yeah, what does that bs even mean? What “constitutional considerations” are stopping Charles from apologizing? How does “fulfill[ing] his duty” prevent him from apologizing? How would apologizing “let his mother down”? What a total piece of sh-t.

    • Tessa says:

      He already let his mother down for years and in many ways. The dimbleby book. His affairs.

  19. lanne says:

    The royals still think they have something to”win” against the Sussexes. No amount of public shame has worked–in fact, it has backfired in a big way. Harry and Meghan have survived an institutional onslaught of abuse and toxicity that would have destroyed many strong couples. There’s no amount of criticism, shame, or hatred that con be inflicted on them beyond what they’ve already taken. The royals and their flying monkeys have employed all their ammunition, and nothing has worked. There’s nothing left. They have no leverage against the Sussexes. The Sussexes need nothing from the royals: they don’t need connection to the royals at all. In fact, the people clamoring to meet them and befriend them aren’t doing so because they want an invitation to Buckingham Palace.

    In trying to win, all the royals can do is lose. They are the villians in the story of a beautiful, glamorous couple who defy all odds and triumph. The glamour and aspiration that used to be associated with the royals left with the Sussexes. The “leftover royals” are old, stale, and pale. It’s an old, dull, face that only racists can pretend to love.

    I also love that Meghan can drop a bomb on the royals at any time in the future. She needs to write a memoir–her story of her experiences in the royal family is probably the most important story that will ever be told, because she has the perspective of a true outsider. I love that she can do it anytime. I love that it will likely be years before she does so, after the trauma she endured can be viewed with the perspective of time. (which will do no favor to the royals–outside a fascist takeover, there’s no future where staying silent as a family member is publically abused is a good look.) I love that she doesn’t need to do it now–she can build an identity for herself that doesn’t depend on the royal family. Charles’s failure as a father and grandfather will loom as largely as his failure as a king–one will inform the other.

    • diANNa says:

      Well said @Lanne about H&M surviving the horrific onslaught that was unleashed against them when they left. I remember despairing for them regarding the constant, monstrous and truly frightening onslaught that was perpetrated by the BM and aided and abetted by the BRF.

      But you’re right that they did, that it has backfired on the Salty Isle media and BF and they’re the ones left damaged by the campaign of hate while H&M shine on.

    • SURE says:

      Really liked your post @lanne

  20. Mary Pester says:

    Charlie is a dogsht inept father always has been, his wife /surrogate mother rules the roost. What she wants and what she says goes. Charles will go to his grave with his reputation in shreds because of who both he and his wife are. People will always talk about the way he let his wife and brat of an eldest son treat his youngest son and family. We won’t forget the way he stripped the Queen’s wedding gift from Harry’s hands and put Harry’s family in danger. I hope your day’s are long and suffering Charlie, because if karma has anything to do with it they will be, and as for you incandescent heir and vacuous wife, they won’t give you a minutes peace! Hey Charlie, did you ever watch the godfather, how does it feel to wake up with a horses head next to you 😂😭

  21. GamerGrrl says:

    I would say exactly what I told my parents: It’s a lot easier for YOU to fly to us than for us to fly to you with small children. I’m sure Charles could cash in some frequent flyer miles to go to Cali.

    • HeatherC says:

      Well Charles has to fly with a full bedroom set and a guy to squeeze out his toothpaste. That doesn’t sound easy at all.

  22. Snuffles says:

    My personal opinion, I think a truce can be negotiated without a public apology on either side. But it would include requirements that Charles adhere to:

    1) Any decisions must include Meghan

    2) Give Harry and Meghan their security back and allow their security to work in concert with royal protection officers

    3) Give them Frogmore Cottage back.

    4) Stop all the briefings and leaks.

    5) Get William the Raging under control

    6) Give Harry and Meghan more freedom and latitude to support and visit UK charities.

    I return, they can negotiate a handful of annual visits and events. Like summer in Balmoral, Christmas walk, Easter, a family photo.

    • Lady Digby says:

      This sounds like a very sensible compromise and if KC really wants to get a strategic ‘win’ then this is the way to do it.

      Otherwise nothing will change and the remaining royals will gradually fade away and eventually disappear in a final sigh of public indifference.

      Of course W&K could eventually blossom into the saviours of the RF that some seem to think they are – and on the other hand pigs and wigs may fly!

    • Tessa says:

      Charles needs to call off the media attacks which keep happening.

  23. Myeh says:

    The monarchy needs to go. Everyone talks about how unifying Liz was, dutiful to service etc. I didnt buy her sham of an act ever and I sure don’t buy whatever bs the British monarchy is trying to rebrand and sell itself as now. They are racists who are thieving, genocide causing looters, murderers and colonizers who need to first apologize for all of the above, give back what they took, stfu and go away. Bunch of actual welfare queens living off the tax payers. I’ll never forget petty Liz on her “recollections may vary” hooey. Way to both sides an argument while upholding, enabling, supporting and perpetuating racism. She sounded and acted just like the rest of the casually racist, out of touch, over privileged run of the mill a*holes.

    • Tessa says:

      The queen sat back and watched Charles abusive behavior to Diana tolerated Camilla and ultimately allowed the registry wedding and blessing. She sat back and allowed Williams bratty behavior and did nothing as he drove out his brother. She asked harry and family to visit after the damage was done.

  24. Well Wisher says:

    I saw a British comedy program, “Splitting Image?” where they predicted that there will be no contact, but Harry will attend the funeral…

  25. Well Wisher says:

    Does the king expect Harry to engage in whatever this latest incident of passive aggression or he wrongly expects that these leaks will make them look as the intractable “issue” i.e. problem, (it certainly does not reflect well on William) based on this statement :-

    ” William has remained implacably furious with his brother, outraged by what he sees as his betrayal of him and his family, and their privacy, for financial gain. He has no wish to see him, The Daily Beast understands from sources. Charles, however, does.”

    I think it is way passed optics, PR moving into propaganda, to manage one’s reputation rather than make the difficult choice of forging good character..
    If it is indeed propaganda remember :-
    “The propagandist’s purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human.”
    ( Thanks Krys)
    Such an utter waste of time, it takes character to stand by one’s actions especially when they do not reflect well on one’s character….

    • Well Wisher says:

      Does the king expect Harry to engage in whatever this latest incident of passive aggression or he wrongly expects that these leaks will make them look as they are the intractable “issue” i.e. problem, (it certainly does not reflect well on William) based on this statement :-

      ” William has remained implacably furious with his brother, outraged by what he sees as his betrayal of him and his family, and their privacy, for financial gain. He has no wish to see him, The Daily Beast understands from sources. Charles, however, does.”

      I think it is way passed optics, PR moving into propaganda, to manage one’s reputation rather than make the difficult choice of forging good character..
      If it is indeed propaganda remember :-
      “The propagandist’s purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human.”
      ( Thanks Krys)
      Such an utter waste of time, it takes character to stand by one’s actions especially when they do not reflect well on one’s character….

  26. tamsin says:

    “Charles loves Harry but his priority is to fulfill his duty as king and not let his mother down. That means constitutional considerations have to come first.”

    This makes no sense whatsoever. It just proves Charles has no excuse for his actions and proves that he is governed by his insecurities, jealousy, pettiness, and his penis since he needs Camilla to help him deal with all of it. How does making peace with Harry prevents him from fulfilling his duties as king? Last I heard, Harry is his son, not the head of a hostile state. And let me count the ways he has already let his mother down. He should worry about letting his people down: after all, is he not the king of a several nations? There is no constitutional conflict between Charles doing his duty as king, and Charles being at the very least a decent father. Unless you consider the Windsors as just a firm- then you could consider Harry as someone who has exposed some corruption in the firm. In which case, Harry the enemy and a whistleblower, and in the real world, whistleblowers are often not hailed as heroes.

  27. Predominantly white staffed news orgs SEEM dogged and determined to sell the narrative that white Brexit royals should not have to apologise for saying, doing nothing as one of the world’s most famous interracial couples was/is targeted with bias and disinformation.
    Isn’t that also a problem?

    Why do these journalists and columnists never interrogate why they feel Harry should accept racist abuse of his marriage?

  28. bisynaptic says:

    Poor, poor Charles. Unloved, on all sides. The best thing that could happen to him is for Camilla to drop dead. Maybe, then, he will do the right thing by Harry.

    • Libra says:

      Nope. William will be right there to take up the cause. His jealousy fueled animosity towards his brother and hatred of Meghan because it’s been rumored that she spurned a pass from him will not end with either Charles or Camilla.

    • Renae says:

      @Bisnaptic : “Camilla to drop dead”….. be still my heart!
      From your lips to God’s ear.

    • Tessa says:

      He should deal with raging William but allowed him to call the shots. William should have been put firmly in his place when he tried to interfere in Harry’s plans to marry Meghan

  29. Beverley says:

    I think Dogsh*t Charlie’s rationale is quite straightforward: he is a king and a king makes no errors. And no king of England would ever dream of admitting wrongdoing and asking the forbearance of – *gasps, clutches pearls* – a person with Black blood.

    • Well Wisher says:

      That would indicate that he is not human, since no one is perfect.
      Unless, he is unable to grow and learn from his mistakes….

  30. Tessa says:

    I notice Charles is reported to say he would welcome harry but no mention of Meghan and the children. I wonder if Charles will attempt to ban the dimbleby book. Camilla should be left out it. She has her own agenda.