I was in my 30s before I really understood that the British class system is vastly different from the American class system. In America, class is determined by money more than anything else, and you can be born in one class and move to another through work, education, marriage and/or money. In Britain, you’re born and you’ll die in the same class, regardless of what happens in between, regardless of who you marry or what money you make. The idea of “middle class” is vastly different too – in America, “middle class” means families who, like, own a home, live in the suburbs, at least one parent has a college degree and enough income to live somewhat comfortably. In Britain, that same family would easily be called “working class.”
The difference in class systems and how they’re viewed is on display in Netflix’s Beckham docuseries. Within Britain, Victoria and David Beckham are both viewed (and they view themselves) as coming from working-class backgrounds. But David called out Victoria on-camera in what is becoming THE viral clip from the series:
"Actually, no, that's not the truth, Victoria." pic.twitter.com/kiwKlAN5nX
— Netflix (@netflix) October 5, 2023
It’s hilarious how David was listening to Victoria’s on-camera interview from outside the room and then she said “very working class” and he was like “NOT ON MY WATCH.” Honestly, though, I understand why she thinks she was working class – it’s because she didn’t come from “family money,” she has no aristocratic links and her family was probably “working class” generations ago. But she’s “posh” working class, in that her parents were successful and her dad drove a Rolls Royce. Still, David calling her out like that is hilarious. She truly wasn’t “working class” in the same way David was.
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- David Beckham and Victoria Beckham attends ‘ Beckham ‘ Premiere at the Curzon Mayfair in London, England. UK. Tuesday 3rd October 2023. -,Image: 810791924, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NORESTRICTIONS, Model Release: no, Pictured: ‘ Beckham ‘ – Premiere, Credit line: JW / Bang Showbiz / Avalon
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- Mia Regan, Romeo Beckham, Cruz Beckham, Harper Beckham, David Beckham, Victoria Beckham, Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz Beckham attends ‘ Beckham ‘ Premiere at the Curzon Mayfair in London, England. UK. Tuesday 3rd October 2023. -,Image: 810791964, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NORESTRICTIONS, Model Release: no, Pictured: ‘ Beckham ‘ – Premiere, Credit line: JW / Bang Showbiz / Avalon
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- David Beckham and Victoria Beckham at the Netflix Beckham UK Premiere at Curzon Mayfair in Mayfair, London, United Kingdom on 3 October 2023.,Image: 810862060, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Cat Morley / Avalon
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- David Beckham and Victoria Beckham at the Netflix Beckham UK Premiere at Curzon Mayfair in Mayfair, London, United Kingdom on 3 October 2023.,Image: 810862066, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Cat Morley / Avalon
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- Victoria Beckham at the Netflix Beckham UK Premiere at Curzon Mayfair in Mayfair, London, United Kingdom on 3 October 2023.,Image: 810863459, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Cat Morley / Avalon
Well, I would bet anything that even though her family had money, others she knew still found her tacky and low class cause she hadnt had money long enough. Being working class is also a socio-cultural construct, not just income especially for her as 1st gen with that income. I see how she is getting dragged, and I get David’s reasoning and how he went at her on this, but I also feel for how she feels.
Indeed. People can have lots of money in the UK, but can still be scoffed at by a ‘lower-middle’ class person because they are clearly ‘working class’ (meaning: from a working class background) in their eyes.
I’m probably not saying anything people here don’t know, but it’s not only a UK problem by far, either.
It’s not the same degree by far, but there is some judginess in moneyed circles about who was born well bred.
I can see why VB would feel working class AND why DB would be like lol no.
Oh yeah, Posh’s family is working class.
Having a Rolls Royce is a working class person’s idea of what being posh is. Actual posh people drove battered mud-spattered old Range Rovers.
Ah, the need for a discussion of Weberian vs Marxist notions of class vs SES?
They’re called the noveau riche in the States. They have money, but they’re not established or stable enough to be comfortably confidant of their economic superiority. Hence the ostentatiousness some of them have with big homes, fancy cars, designer bags, etc.
In England the only people who aren’t working are the wealthy ones. They take pride in collecting what would be economic assistance here.
The class system here in England, truly drives me mad. I tend to ignore it but some people can get really passionate in it. Take for example my son’s paternal grandmother, her sister married a well off man who had a successful accounting firm, they were able to live in great comfort, children were sent to private schools, they bought their daughter a flat near her university, they bought their son a house when he got married, wrong move though as they later got divorce and they had put it under their son and his wife’s name, when he got married a second time, they bought him another house but left it under their own name. So that was somewhat a picture of her sister’s family’s lifestyle.
Her niece married into a titled family and when I was about to meet her for the first time, my son’s grandmother got me aside and told me that I should know my place and that we and her own family are below them, (whatever that means but I guess she really takes the class system seriously and genuinely believes that she is below them even though she is also comfortably well off and owns a beautiful home in one of the priciest places in the city.
And from 1850 is all for today 😑
I expect nothing less of a place that gives titles and government positions to people based on how far back their money goes, no matter how irresponsibly it was obtained.
I have lived in England and I loved it there, but there are some serious social problems that are VERY deeply rooted and extremely toxic, and for years, everyone has been too polite to talk about them. Classism and xenophobia are way too normalized, and it’s going to take a long time to undo the culture of colonialism amd paternalism that created it. It’s no surprise to me at all, unfortunately, that Meghan didn’t “fit” with a lot of people. She saw too much humanity in people that a lot of Brits frankly don’t want humanized. I found that out working in a refugee community agency in London.
I will never stop talking about Windrush until EVERYONE knows what happened.
“She saw too much humanity in people that a lot of Brits frankly don’t want humanized.”
Beautifully put.
There is a bizarre snobbery about calling oneself working class in the UK, or at least there was in the 90s. It was ‘cool’ back then, gave you a bit of street cred.
Kate Winslet and Stella McCartney used to routinely describes themselves as working class in interviews.
Posh was never working class- she was Essex.
Plenty of working class people in Essex.
Stella McCartney?! Her father definitely grew up working class come on, SHE was not. Maybe he instilled those values in her, or tried to. That doesn’t make it so.
Paul and Linda insisted on putting their kids in regular schools, not posh private ones, and they lived on a farm at some point. That probably feeds into Stella’s reasoning that she was working class. Plus neither of her parents had a bachelor’s degree.
Stella McCartney has been very open about how she hated being in a ‘common’ school, and said she bullied some of the kids to stop them picking on her.
Best interview she did what when she mentioned that she had one nanny per child, but because she was so working class she found it uncomfortable to refer to them as staff, so she called them friends instead.
Huh? My dad is from Essex and definitely grew up working class. Dagenham to be exact, and his parents worked in factories.
She should call out his cheating. He was annoying in that snippet of video I saw.
Yeah it was kind of annoying to me and you could see in her face she was annoyed with it. I’m 42 so I remember the Spice Girls era quiet well and I definitely remember the stories saying that Posh spice wasn’t really as Posh as they tried to make you believe she was and that they played it up for the group since they all had their own persona. Now for Americans she would definitely be considered upper middle class but now that I understand the British class system better I feel like she really was just telling them what she felt was true about her family. To Brit’s she wasn’t actually Posh but she was to us Americans.
I watched the docuseries. They do talk about it.
I also have to admit that after watching it, and the way they talk about each other and what they went through over the last 20ish years, I really like them as a couple. It’s also nobody’s business what they do in their personal lives and what they say or don’t say to the media.
I don’t condone cheating ever, but I also understand that not every relationship has to follow the same mentality as mine. Good on them for what they did to fight for their relationship and what they want.
Their interactions in the doc showed a couple that worked through their issues but didn’t deny that they had them. (The cheating was covered but not that much ). Beckham moving the family all over really did cause a strain and that could have ended the marriage more than once.
But they seemed to have worked it out.
It’s an interesting comparison to the perfect marriage couple who has awkward interactions 20 years in to knowing each other. Victoria and David clearly aren’t repulsed by each other despite the ups and downs they had.
In the UK they have very defined tiers of class too- it’s what the advertisers use to help their targeting.
No idea when it started but it’s literally ABC levels and it’s more about what you do for the money than how much you make.
For example my father in law was the CEO of a consumer products company but when my husband got his first job at a big 3 consulting firm he was technically higher class than his father even tho his starting salary was like 6000 pounds.
I don’t know what Victoria’s dad did but if he made his money in plumbing or printing he would be a working class (C grade) person according to the system.
It’s very different from how Americans view class so Victoria might be well entitled to her view of herself as working class background.
Looked it up on Wikipedia. Her father was “an electronics engineer who started an electronics wholesale company.” So could have been working class when she was very young, made money by hustling hard, flash by her teen years, but the rich kids she went to school with looked down on her. Don’t know the timeline of dad’s business. She obviously comes by the entrepreneurship naturally.
I see some of this in the US. People will move to a wealthy town they can barely afford for the schools. The kids end up feeling “poor,” even though their family is truly upper middle class. If the parents had chosen a working class town to live in, the kids would see the family as very well off. England has the whole different set of standards, but how a kid is situated in relation to their peers makes a difference psychologically.
Can someone explain why Kate Middleton’s family is always described as “middle class” and not “working class,” by these definitions? Her parents started their own company for PARTY SUPPLIES whereas Victoria’s dad is actually highly educated and works in tech. I know that probably doesn’t matter, but still. I can also see the Middletons refusing to acknowledge that they are even a hint of working class—I know Carole’s background always get cited, but based on this, it just seems completely incongruent that Victoria and the Middletons are at least, not the same class.
The Middletons, including Kate, are and will always been seen as working class by the British upper class -read old money- and aristocracy. Newspapers might call her Middle Class but money doesn’t really define your place in the British Class system.
In the circles Kate now ‘hangs’ around with, she is seen as a vulgar social climber, and i am pretty sure they let her know, also the reason why Rose has the upper hand in those circles.
The Middletons were the beneficiaries of a trust fund, that’s how they were able to send the three children to Marlborough and buy a flat in London. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565539/The-family-tragedy-helped-Middletons-make-millions.html They’ve had money long enough to be middle class but they’ll never be upper class. Posh’s family’s money is recent enough that I can see how she would consider herself to be from a working class background.
Ah, thanks to both of you for the explanation. Yes, the media always played off their names to call them “middle class.” I still remember the quip about their “tarmac drive”…it really sounds so silly to us—people who need to buy furniture and live on newly paved roads! And yes, it appears that on her father’s side, there was generational wealth border-lining gentry, though not, nobility, so I can see the difference between that and Posh’s background.
Kate Middleton’s mother is indisputably working class, but her father’s family is upper class. They were gentry and industrialists who owned substantial estates and some did marry into the aristocracy. His ancestors include people that were distinguished for their philanthropy and work in furthering women’s education, healthcare and abolition. His forbears have a long history of Oxbridge education and professions including law, medicine and wool manufacturers and have places and building named for them at Leeds University, Bedales, etc.
@ssf, having money and one or two of your family members marry into the aristocracy does not make your family upper class in the UK. The Middleton family was decidedly middle-class (maybe middle-middle or upper-middle but definitely middle class). For example, just because Kate married into the Royal family does not make the Middletons upper class.
@Lux, see also this tweet, which describes Posh’s situation really well: https://x.com/beebabs/status/1709908533880279515?s=46&t=RP7hzXkpRNJ7lRQ_uIA57A
From what I know of the English class system is that they can still sneer at someone who has about 10 very expensive cars, when they are originally from a working class background.
There are a lot of tell-tale signs, like certain words used in speech.
Usually it’s the class right above them that sneers the most at the class right beneath them.
So upper class doesn’t usually care that much about working class having middle class ‘pretentions’, but a lower-middle or middle-middle class person would sneer at a working class person trying to get into ‘their’ class.
As seen above, you don’t just have working class, middle class and upper class, but layers within each. I have even seen mention of ‘upper working class’ and ‘lower upper class’.
I think this illustrates it well:
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-the-upper-working-class-and-the-lower-middle-class-in-the-UK
(scroll down for the part about TVs)
I’m England if you have to work you are working class even if you’re a CEO, engineer, doctor, etc. If you did not inherit your money you are working class. In America it’s different. You’re are working class if you’re parents did not go to college and you’re lower-middle class as well.
Class in the UK and Ireland also has a lot to do with education-you can be church-mouse poor but if you have a good education, no one thinks you’re working class.
Similar to the difference between white and blue collar workers?
She is working class. Isn’t that the joke? She’s not posh, she’s Essex posh.
This exactly! She’s Essex (may I say Harlow posh) so that’s enough to be considered by many as working class.
You can most definitely move between classes in the UK, although some people will always try pretending they are somehow better than others because of their family background.
If you are working class, make money and use it to send your children to better schools/university and they in turn can get a better paying job, their status changes to middle class.
I think what Victoria meant was that her father was working class and worked hard to provide for his family.
Even though Beckham is mega rich he’s still considered working class in the UK. It’s crazy.
Yeah, just by the way he speaks, he’ll forever be considered working class
How can this man still speak like this? All the money he has and basi vocab is a struggle. He has lived and been exposed to a lot to still sound so dumb.
@Nubia Your reaction to him is exactly the way the British class system reacts to people. He might not be smart in how you judge intelligence, but the truth is that despite this he will long be remembered for his accomplishments where you and I will be forgotten. He also used his talent in sports to work his way up where he technically doesn’t have to work a day in his life anymore. So despite you thinking he sounds dumb, he did rather well for himself.
Her dad drove a rolls royce and that’s considered working class? Is the barometer for “working class” just whether you have to work for your money? Where do lawyers, doctors etc fit in?
I will say the US is funny bc everyone I know defines themselves as “middle class.” Sometimes people will admit they’re “upper middle class” but that’s very begrudgingly. I told my parents once they were upper class and my mom was APPALLED at the idea.
I think people who made their own money, regardless of how well they are doing, will balk at being called “upper class.” Because that connotes having inherited money rather than working for it. It also hints of snobbery.
My husband’s family is in financial planning (not him, but his brother is and his father was before he passed). So I guess our tendency is to think of it in terms of financial, not class, tiers. His family had nothing when they immigrated here and struggled for years. But his father was well educated, which I think made them feel like they were middle class despite the fact that their 14-year-old was having to work at KFC to help support all of them.
People can drive a flash car, live in a fancy town, and not have furniture in their living room. If all the money is being spent to impress, there can be extreme markers of wealth while living a fairly deprived life.
Concern Fae: you are so right – I look at real estate properties for fun and when they’re inhabited and not staged it’s weird how many people in the US have the façade of wealth and luxury while their interiors tell a very different story. I’d rather have my furniture be nice and have heat and plenty of food than live with just a showy exterior.
@Becks1, I’m American so I could be wrong, but I think in England you are only considered upper class if you have a hereditary title or your ancestors did. Burke’s Peerage and all that. Money has absolutely nothing to do with it. A Duke who has nothing in the bank and lives on credit and the goodwill of others still outranks a mere Earl who has millions, and always will. Even Richard Branson is still considered middle class – granted he’s upper-upper middle, and he was granted an honorary Sir to make it seem like he’s joined the club, but that’s an illusion.
@dara, fellow American here but, yes, that is my understanding. I think there is more fluidity in the British middle class (upper, middle, lower). I am also convinced that the term landed gentry, and gentry, was invented for those descendants of aristocrats that were no longer titled but hated being lumped in with the middle class. So, they needed a designation to indicate that they at least descended from upper class folks!
Professional occupations like doctors and lawyers are definitely middle class. However, it’s more about your parents and background than your own occupation. Basically, if your parents went to university and had professional jobs, you’re middle class. Working class would be if your parents worked in trades, retail or hospitality etc. You can be successful and own your own business but still be working class. If your parents were professionals but you work in a shop, you’re still middle class. If you’re a doctor but your parents worked in a factory, you’re working class.
The US way of looking at it is strange to me. I have seen people who live pay cheque to pay cheque call themselves middle class. Or they say if they lost their job they’d be destitute and homeless in a few months. That’s not middle class by most definitions. I don’t know why there’s such stigma around saying you’re working class.
Here in Aus I make a good wage, own my own home, pretty stable financially, yet I’m working class as hell. It’s not a bad thing.
I don’t know much about the class system in the UK but I know way too much about d!ickheads who enjoy putting their partners in their place.
At least let her finish what she was trying to say.
This right here, added to that he constantly sneers at the food she does/doesn’t eat despite the fact that she clearly struggles with disordered eating. Imagine you struggle like that and your husband thinks it a great idea to talk about your diet in the global media, unleashing endless speculation and commentary on her. I wouldn’t touch him with someone else’s barge pole.
I just have to point out that class is often distinguished through culture/attitude, because it’s socioeconomic (not just economic). A working class attitude towards money is to spend it all once received (as David did), while a middle class attitude is to plan financially. No judgment, these are just attitudes grounded in different life experiences and therefore outlooks.
A working class attitude towards education is that its expendable or only useful in terms of the job it secures, while a middle class attitude towards education is that it is intrinsically valuable.
Working class tend to have jobs; middle class tend to have careers.
Working class tend to have class insecurity; middle class tend to not (a classic middle class attitude is the confidence to believe you belong everywhere whereas a working class attitude tends to be more insecure).
Someone can have a middle class income, often by way of business success, but retain a working class attitude. And someone can have a working class (or poor) income, but a middle class attitude if that’s what they were raised around.
With Victoria, then, I think it’s possible for her to see herself as working class even if her father drove a Rolls Royce (but of course, it’s still worth pointing out that working class people generally don’t drive Rolls Royces!). She really grew up at least at a middle class income level with a working class outlook, I’d imagine, whereas David was working class through and through.
Of course, that snotty class system over there probably thinks that because the middle class actually works (so uncouth!), they’re really the working class.
💡@GrnieWnie: I’ve read your post multiple times, and I’m deeply and sincerely grateful to you for shedding light on one of the confusingly painful aspects of my family of origin— that I’ve dragged around for decades.
Three of my four grandparents were college educated. No mean feat for Black Americans before the Great Depression. Both of my parents had Masters degrees, and I went on to earn a doctorate, with degrees from top notch schools. My dad, though, was never interested in my education— what I was learning, how I was growing. He valued my getting good grades, even as he belittled my educational experiences and accomplishments overall — both publicly and privately.
An enormous lightbulb popped on in my head when I read your second paragraph. My mom, her entire extended family, — and I — all developed more of a middle class attitude towards education, and include joy and intellectual satisfactions as part of its value. My dad had more of a working class attitude— slogging through reading classics like they were assigned texts, and belittling my interests as being of little “use” as far as he could see.
Being able to feel this, now, as something broader than just personal attacks is truly mind-blowing to me. Thank you So, So very much @ GrnieWnie for sharing your thoughts and insights! 🙏🏽
@Blithe I’m glad it was helpful to you! You nailed it…your father retained a class attitude that probably reflected his upbringing to some extent, despite the fact that his educational attainment is more characteristic of another class. I remember piecing this together in my own life and also applying it more broadly to society and all of a sudden, things started to make sense. Class is not just income level…it’s so much more (and I don’t mean that in a snotty “manners” way); attitudes and outlooks can be a better indicator!
I loved their dynamic here. You can just see their love in the way he teases her about this, that this has been a long-standing debate between them over whether her upbringing counts as “working class.” Whatever went on behind the scenes with him having affairs or the gossip about the state of their marriage, I think he truly loves his wife and they aren’t splitting up anytime soon.
I started watching the first episode last night (because this clip cracked me up) and when they were describing the lengths he would go to see her (he would drive 4 hours just to have 20 minutes with her) it was sweet. I think you’re right about his love for her.
The other thing I got from the episode is that David is an inveterate door popper. They show him leaning out of doors to listen (and join) in on several conversations, even when he was younger. David is a nosey gossip at heart.
I think the US allows for more class mobility because we focus more on racism than class distinctions within one race. But that being said, even though class mobility is allowed, socially, it is extremely rare, especially with student loans so often cutting off the potential mobility college offers.
What I got from Davids special was how fame hungry he is. He LOVES Victoria’s world and thrives in it. I remember people blaming her for changing him and but HE wanted the fame.
I dont think of her as being working class or coming from a working class background, her parents may well have but she reaped the rewards of living in a middle class home that her parents worked hard to provide. So it’s a weird set up in class structures. If she hadn’t went on to be successful she would’ve most definitely lived a middle class lifestyle. I grew up in a decidedly working class family, there’s no upwardly mobile thing going on in my family and plenty of friends are the same.
I went to secondary school with broad swathe of kids, poor working class to wealthy upper middle class with the vast majority being plain old middle class and I would peg Victoria Beckham in the same “class” as them, both parents work but are comfortable enough that if one lost a job then they wouldn’t be in dire straits. To me being in dire straits would be a working class problem if it happened.
The term “working class” is leftover from when the “upper class” were getting massively rich from the blood, sweat, & tears of slaves. Their slaves did all the work, and that is why the slave owners were referred to as the “idle rich”. If one did NOT have slaves thousands of miles away in the colonies, enriching them, then those individuals actually had to WORK. And as such were referred to as the “working class.”
I think that, because professional opportunities in the UK were so tied into one’s class, and where one went to school (how many British PMs went to Eton?? ALL OF THEM) that, even though the UK is more focused on class than $, one’s class still directly affected where they went to school, which affected how much money one could make, because its affected by how much upward mobility they would have in their professions, or just what professions one is eligible for in the first place!
I don’t remember her name, but during one of Trumps many trials, (I believe this was the one where he told the Ukraine that he would only help them if they provided dirt on Hunter Biden) there was a British woman who gave testimony. IIRC she is a consultant for the US government regarding US-Russian policy. And she described her fascinating life story regarding her journey to the US. She described her hard scrabble, northern England childhood, with a coal miner father. Despite being an exemplary and gifted student, she stated that her blue collar, Northern England accent ALONE would have precluded her from being eligible for any high ranking government job, and that going to the US had allowed her see her dreams realized, because for the first time, her accent and economically challenged childhood was in no way a barrier. I remember her stating how happy she was that her father got to see her go to America and live her dreams, because he had always dreamed of going to to US to work in the coal mines there. Her story was amazing.
Anyway, she is a great example of how one’s accent ALONE can impede one’s ability to succeed professionally and financially in the UK and I think some British people tend to be suspicious of someone who goes from little money to a lot of money very quickly, because its so difficult if not impossible in the UK
I think that’s Fiona Hill you’re referring to. She’s an amazing person.
And what we learn here is that people are very mean about delineating us vs them.
Downer of a way to start a Friday.
my husband was walking through as this part was playing, and said ‘you can tell they love each other but he calls her on her shit.” i loved it when she finally said “rolls royce.” iirc, that’s where her “posh spice” moniker came from — the rolls as a kid.
They sat on thrones when they got married. Her style of dressing in her earlier “WAG” days was outlandish, and no matter how fashionista she’s become, there’s still a taint of “chav” about them that won’t go away because the UK is still mired in a class system, and all the money in the world won’t change that (e.g. Kate Middleton).
I highly recommend the book by Kate Fox, Watching the English. It’s a quick, amusing read backed up by serious research.
I resented, on my husband’s behalf, how people in my London office would immediately assess him as working-class because of his London accent.
As an American, I was immune to their judgment — they couldn’t place me. But this particular twit named Basil (I swear, they’re always named Basil) would practically sniff in disdain when my husband spoke. And my husband had both undergraduate and master’s degrees! He was smarter than Basil ever could dream of being. And my husband grew up in a house that had a name — unlike my city row house.
Shows like “Downton Abbey” drive him around the bend, though whenever we watch the BBC version of “Pride and Prejudice” (the one with Colin Firth) he always points to the servants helping the Bennet sisters out of their carriage and says, “There are my ancestors!” LOL
I didn’t care for how Downton Abbey handled the class issues. They white-washed it so much, making the lives of the servants seem better than they would really have been and painting the titled family as nice and benevolent. And don’t even get me started on what they did to the character of Tom Branson, an Irish Socialist turned estate agent for an English Earl. Blah.
I find her to be absolutely hilarious. So many celebrities have tried to mimic her brand and can’t do it. She’s posh yet appealing. It’s very hard to do. Gwen P has tried a similar brand and it’s has the complete opposite effect.
Class system? No matter what the country, it just their insecurity and lack of self esteem showing. I find it laughable. I’ve lived a wonderful life, my husband and I worked hard, supported our families, supported charities and those less fortunate, laughed and loved and never thought what class we were supposedly in. Tomorrow we celebrate 57 years together. Now, I call THAT “classy.”
Class in the UK is a much more nebulous thing because it goes so much beyond just wealth. If you’re not born upper class then you never will be, no matter what you achieve in life. Kate Middleton and the scrutiny of her family is a perfect example – if you’re not considered a true upper class despite becoming royal then literally no one ever can become upper class by association, work or anything else.
Love the Beckhams and enjoyed the documentary thoroughly, they are a lesson in luck, hardworking, dedication and family! They don’t gossip or fight anyone, they keep to themselves and keep rising.