This week, the Ephraim Hardcastle column “reported” something very obvious, which is that King Charles’s slimmed down monarchy is very slim, and that Charles views his family quite differently than his mother. QEII saw everyone as part of “the Family Firm” while Charles categorizes the fam as “Senior Royals, Working Royals, Non-Working Royals and Others. The Others are, apparently, Andrew, Harry and Meghan – with Andrew getting preferential treatment over the Sussexes.” As I said, it was obvious, but the Mail does love to rake over old news and repackage it as something new. Anyone watching the Windsor sh-tshow in recent years has gotten the message loud and clear: a rapist pervert is preferable to a prince married to a Black woman. Tom Sykes, another master of the obvious, devoted his column to this too, that “sources close to Andrew” are quite pleased that Andrew is treated better than the Sussexes, and that Charles will continue to give Andrew what he wants because Andrew has never given an interview to Oprah.
Andrew gets better treatment than Harry: The differing treatment meted out to Andrew and Harry in respect of their security arrangements seems, with the benefit of hindsight, a foreshadowing of what has since become a routine habit of the new king; namely giving Andrew notably better treatment than Harry, despite his brother’s out-of-court settlement for a reputed $14 million with Virginia Giuffre over underage sex abuse allegations. Of course, there are complicating factors; principally that Harry lives in California not Windsor, and that Harry seems in no rush to bend the knee to his father. But the inconvenient fact remains that it rather looks like the king would prefer you pay off a sex accuser than give an interview to Oprah Winfrey.
Why Andrew is in the king’s good books: A friend of Andrew’s confirmed to The Daily Beast that Andrew believes he is in the king’s good books compared to Harry: “If you were Charles, would you rather have a problem that looks like Harry and Meghan or a problem that looks like Andrew? Andrew has taken his punishment, withdrawn from public life and done whatever has been asked of him. He knows he has damaged the monarchy. So have Harry and Meghan. The difference is [Andrew] deeply regrets it and it was not intentional, whereas Harry and Meghan deliberately set out to cause as much damage to Charles and Camilla as they could to sell books and TV shows. That’s an entirely different matter. Disloyalty is far and away the No. 1 crime in that family.”
A template for a Sussex reconciliation: “The extent to which the king has publicly made it clear Andrew is still part of the family has caught some people by surprise. But ultimately, he has the interests of the monarchy at heart, and that means a united family, whatever its problems. Hopefully that message is getting through to Harry and Meghan.”
Outside the tent, pissing in: A former Buckingham Palace staffer put the king’s strategic case for including Andrew in family set pieces more bluntly, saying: “It’s the oldest question in politics: would you rather have the troublemakers inside the tent pissing out or outside the tent pissing in? Harry is very much outside the tent pissing in and it’s a problem. Andrew is inside the tent pissing out, and that suits Charles better.”
Historian Andrew Lownie’s thoughts: The royal historian Andrew Lownie, who is publishing a biography of Prince Andrew next year, told The Daily Beast: “Harry is a loose cannon and Meghan even more so. They both have more books coming. The strategy, I believe, is to keep in with him and to marginalize her, which is exactly what they did with Wallis and the Duke of Windsor. Andrew has been loyal to a certain extent. He’s made some implicit threats, and things have been floated about books and TV interviews, but ultimately he is a loyalist. Andrew is less of a problem than Harry. He may become more of a problem, especially when my book comes out, because I think there will be things in there that will rock the boat. But he’s not been rude about Camilla. He’s not set out to destabilize the monarchy. He hasn’t spilled secrets.”
How the family views Andrew: Lownie said: “I think some of them feel sorry for him. He says the accusations against him are false, and there are suggestions that some of the family believe him.” Lownie also hints that Camilla may have had a significant role in urging Charles to reconcile with his brother—who he didn’t get on with particularly well before he was accused of sex crimes.
“But ultimately, he has the interests of the monarchy at heart, and that means a united family, whatever its problems. Hopefully that message is getting through to Harry and Meghan.” No – Charles is a weak man who can’t stand to deal with things directly, so instead of speaking to his son and apologizing and figuring out a way forward, Charles is making a point of allowing his staff to brief against Harry and Meghan, leak sh-t about them and shun them. The message being sent to the Sussexes is actually as Lownie describes: “The strategy, I believe, is to keep in with him and to marginalize her.” Charles wants to keep some sort of line open to Harry – indirectly, of course – but treat Meghan like she doesn’t exist and is not worth his respect or regard. The galaxy-brains at Buckingham Palace think this is a good look for the king, they think it plays well that he can’t wait to include a rapist in family events but he won’t allow his son to stay in a guest room for one night.
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrive to watch sitting volleyball at the Merkur Spiel-Arena during the Invictus Games Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 15 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex watch sitting volleyball at the Merkur Spiel-Arena during the Invictus Games Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 15 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex at the IG25 and Team Canada Reception at the Hilton Hotel during the Invictus Games in Dusseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 15 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- Queen Camilla during a visit to Chateau Smith Haut Lafitte vineyard in Bordeaux, to learn about about sustainable vineyard practices in the Bordeaux wine producing region, on day three of the state visit to France. Featuring: King Charles III, Queen Camilla Where: Bordeaux, France When: 22 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
In other words, Charles’ strategy is: Keep doing the same thing and keep expecting a different outcome. Got it.
Yup. Introduction to Insanity 101.
Yep. The WOC and her beautiful children with a Prince of the realm are not important. Nor, what she has to say is important. Nor, Is her husband, the Prince of a realm important (regardless of his & his wife’s popularity in the UK though we do our bestest to pretend otherwise.
they really are showing the world who they are. It’s amusing how surprised they are that their strategies aren’t working. They brought a horse and buggy to a supercar race and are surprised they aren’t winning. They choose to live in their own isolated bubble, then these are the consequences. The royal family of the UK will remain out of touch, old, racist, and obsolete.
So the way to beat the racism and othering accusations is to let the world know you are excluding your biracial daughter in law? Got it!
Yeah, I know their PR people suck but this is just really bad. We love Harry so much and we’re very much not a racist family soooo…….we’re going to marginalize Meghan??
Yeah, this stuck out to me too. These people are so awful, My God.
Nothing says ‘we very much not a racist family’ like saying, hey we are marginalizing Meghan becuse we can. Oh noes, it has nothing to do with her color…F*cking assholes.
How’s that strategy working Chuckles? Harry wants nothing to do with your tent. If he his doing any pissing its all over your tent by telling the truth about you Chuckles. Got to keep the Harry stories going for clicks and to sell books.
The Royal Firm loves to give hand-outs to family members 🤢 the Montecito Royals are not in this business 🤢
Tom Sykes, please explain why CRex treated Paedrew nicer than Harry and Meghan during 2018-2019 before H&M gave any interviews and before Paedrew was outed as a sex offender. How about after PA did his interview, but before H&M sat doen we th Oprah? Thanks.
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y!!!! They never think things thru before they send out their talking points thru their preferred mouth pieces. Fortunately for them their mouth pieces and their target audience don’t care about the truth, the just want talking points to validate what they want to believe.
Excellent point!
Andrew played along with the royal family rules and is blood family. Those two things are why he is treated differently than Meghan. Married ins always are treated like second class citizens.
“If there is disturbance in the camp, the general’s authority is weak. “
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
This is the Brit Media trying to subtly let its audience know that Andrew isn’t the only pedo in that family. That Charles very much believes in “keep your enemies closer” when it comes to Andrew. Chucky doesn’t give 2 hoots about Andrew, except insofar as Andrew can blow the lid on a lot of Charles’ history and character as a person. Andrew has probably threatened to drop some truths in a very public way if Chucky doesn’t protect him and keep him safe from the FBI and the media. It’s merely personal interest for Chucky, and self-preservation that keeps his horrid brother in the fold.
It does make me wonder if Andrew threatened the Queen at any point with similar info releases that would undoubtedly have permanently, irrevocably damaged the monarchy? Or was he just leaning into/playing up being “Mummy’s favourite” the whole time?
^^ Oh, I fully agree with your first paragraph @ Where’sMyTiara. Regarding the speculation in your second paragraph, I am doubtful. Andrew seemingly could do no wrong as far as his mother was concerned. I would bet he fully leaned into that advantage. QE-II may also have been kept in the dark about specific details of Andrew’s despicable activities with Epstein. She may never have looked at Andrew’s disastrous television interview either. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, 🙈 🙉 🙊 is probably how she was schooled over the years to deal with most uncomfortable realities. I have come to believe that the Queen was highly managed throughout her life, and especially during the latter (elderly) years of her reign.
In regard to your first paragraph, there have been rota articles about Andrew threatening to ‘write his memoirs.’ He’s such a loose cannon and a known fool, that for sure such an enterprise would backfire big time on both him and the British monarchy, such as it exists today. I also feel there is so much dastardly stuff that goes on BTS, which has yet to be revealed, it would be an endless goldmine to excavate. 👀😳😲😖🤮🤪 Even though Harry’s memoirs gave us clues, he admittedly left out a lot!
A true excavation is unlikely to ever happen, particularly with the way things are routinely covered up and twisted six ways to Sunday. Even now, the firm’s minions are reportedly culling (and burning?) the Queen’s private diaries. 🤫🤐🤦♀️🤷🏽♀️
” He may become more of a problem, especially when my book comes out, because I think there will be things in there that will rock the boat. ”
Because MY book is the most importantest book ever and everyone should pay attention to MEEEEEE.
He’s just hawking his book, he knows saying Harry and Meghan will get attention. His book will be just a rehash of Daily Mail headlines with some GB news commentary thrown in as filler.
It is interesting that they keep doing the same thing, the book do not sell anymore, being popular with the press/media does not translate to populous support and yet the authors, and parts of the media continue keep doing the same thing over and over…….
The book most likely to rock the boat (at least I hope so) is Omid’s, coming out at the end of next month. Almost certainly it’ll sell way more than any book about Andrew Lownie is peddling. Who needs a book about Andrew? People already know Andrew’s a garbage grifter who used his position as “trade envoy” to enrich himself, who raped at least one young girl trafficked to him by his two good friends, a girl who he then had his mother – the Queen – pay off in the hope of avoiding more publicity. If Lownie reveals more unsavory goings on, it won’t be a big surprise, and no one will care enough to spend any money hearing more about any of it.
Now we know why Harry hasn’t spoken to Charles and Charles hasn’t seen his grandkids. You can’t “marginalize” Harry’s wife and expect to be “in” with Harry.
@Aurora +1. And C-Rex The Worst refused to let anyone marginalize his mistress wife, including his own mother, TQ.
Charles’ definition of loyalty is that family members must accept whatever abuse he chooses to dish out. And remain forever silent about it.
This. He is a weak little man.
Well, you can (expect it) if you’re an idiot. Please, continue to show us from whom William inherited his stupidity.
Boom I said similar below. William is 💯 Chuck E 3
Exactly. This strategy did not work on Wallace Simpson and it will not work on Meghan. To the end, Edward remained devoted to Wallace in spite of needing the RF money. He was far more besotted with Wallace than she was with him. If spilling “family secrets” is the problem, Harry spilled far more than Meghan did. What she did, that they can’t get over, was expose their racism and put the Commonwealth’s back up.
His strategy is to marginalize the mixed-race daughter-in-law. Got it. Slap that on a mug with a big red circle around it.
And how is Harry a loose cannon, but she’s an even bigger looser cannon?! Harry wrote a book, Harry’s done way more talking — as is his right. But she continues to beat the brunt of the abuse and blame. Ugh.
Yeah, what I was thinking. PH is the one who has known them his entire life and has the most info. But, I guess, he took the party line until the woman influenced him. It’s the typical blame the woman strategy. Every time they leak they reveal their racist, misogynist way of thinking.
Right? Harry wrote a whole dang book but it’s Meghan who is the loose canon? They are really terrified of her. She’s almost an unknown entity to them. They never really tried to get to know her so thus they don’t know her. They can’t predict what she’ll do in the future. Technically, they can’t with Harry but maybe they feel they can more bc they know him. And at the end of the day, it was Meghan who first said in the Oprah interview that there were concerns about Archie’s skin color. They cannot ever get over that , I don’t think. It was a huge moment. The whole world saw Oprah’s reaction. So they’re typically blaming the one who was racially abused and victimizing themselves.
If this is the case, its suggests that its the fear of the unknown. They are terrified of what Meghan might say in a book. Terrified. Harry less so b/c they have read the book, they can deny all they want but they have read it. I think they are relieved b/c it ‘wasnt that bad’ and they can survive it, (whatever survive means for them). But Meghan, I suspect has way more dirt than H about the way she was treated, and their terror now is that the black/mixed race woman to really spill the beans about their racism. I believe Meghan will write a book but its when she’s on the other side of the zenith of her success and has time to reflect on her life. She has kept receipts. They know this. Till then they will burn with terror.
Harry still has 400 pages of unpublished material that he didn’t include in Spare, so while they should be very apprehensive of any autobiography Meghan may publish, they better watch out over what could come at them from left field. Harry may be pushed too far one day and publish Part 2.
It also makes it seem like they are guilty of more since they are so worried. What else did they do to her?
What terrifies them the most about M is that they tried everything to break her and make her tow the line, but nothing in their toolbox has worked. Now all they see is the bottom of that empty toolbox.
She isn’t afraid of them. She showed their golden goose that the “power” they had over him was an illusion, and so he escaped with all his talent and potential. They had big plans to prop themselves up with that talent and potential.
@Feeshalori – yup. Remember the joke title someone here made up before Harry published Spare – “You Were So Worried About Her, You Forgot About Me”? 2.0 indeed.
@Jais: “Meghan who first said in the Oprah interview that there were concerns about Archie’s skin color.”
True, but Harry is the one who told Meghan this, because it wasn’t said in her presence. According to what H&M revealed to Oprah, the famous ‘skin color’ dissing query was purposely spoken only to Harry. Plus, let’s at least recognize and understand that H&M fully discussed beforehand and thereby knew what they each were planning to say and to NOT SAY during the Oprah interview!
So much puke-worthy stuff in the mail article but the idea that Andrew’s crimes weren’t intentional leaves me speechless.
I thought I was beyond shock but that sentence about Andrew (” it was not intentional”) left me gasping.
Also shocked at “unintentional”-how can sex trafficking and rape be unintentional in any universe?!
Andrew is a self-indulgent fool who apparently needs a chaperone at all times. 🙄😦🤯 Sir Christopher Geidt reportedly tried his level best to get Andrew’s antics under control, which netted Geidt and the firm zip. In the process of trying to keep Andrew’s foolish behavior and utter stupidity under control, Geidt became Andrew’s arch-enemy.
The fact that the Queen and Charles ignored the ‘out-of-control Andrew’ warning signs, and moreover allowed Geidt to be taken down, is the ultimate huge mistake by the firm. But, the coup against Geidt was allowed to happen due to courtier power struggles, in addition to Andrew’s enmity of Geidt, and most especially to Chuck’s peevish short-sightedness, and his galling lack of leadership.
I agree! The “Disloyalty is far and away the No. 1 crime in that family.” left my eyebrows raised too… Sooo, being credibly accused of rape, trafficking… and so much so, that you retired from public life, had your mama pay millions to avoid a trial… that’s not considered the No. 1 crime in this family?! What a awful look for Charles.
edited typo!
People accidentally cavort with despots and known child traffickers all the time.
Although I have absolutely no sympathy for Andrew I can see that from his & Charles’ point of view Charles got off lightly. That may explain some of Charles’ indulgence towards him, also he may be aware of what Andrew knows about the past.
Let’s not forget that Charles himself counted another paedo piece of filth among his friends – Jimmy Savile (and he wasn’t the only such friend although that’s another story). Charles praised Savile to the skies at the time for his ‘straightforward common sense’ and evidently regarded him as some sort of mentor. He undoubtedly benefited from Charles’ support and gained credibility which assisted in enabling him to, among other things, gain access to Stoke Mandeville Hospital and its patients.
Savile actually – ACTUALLY – abused desperately ill children in their own hospital beds. Just for that alone I hope there is a hell just so he is in it. The only good thing about him is that he is dead.
It is not clear how much Charles knew about Savile’s true character. If it were me I would be so so ashamed that I had ever counted such a person among my friends or unwittingly enabled him. But Charles has nothing much to say about it and evidently wants it to go away. Just as Andrew did for Epstein, Charles helped give Savile credibility which helped make him untouchable and hide in plain sight.
I think the Saville thing is different. None of this was even hinted at while Saville was alive. It’s very possible that Charles and others had no clue AT ALL.
Let’s say Andrew didn’t know that V was 17. He still knew that epstein was a money launder who hung around way too young women. Maybe he didn’t know that these young women went to epstein mansion but Epstein got kicked out of donald trumps golf club-cant remember if it was mara largo. So Andrew had to have known something was up because he knew him and saw him too much.
I don’t think it is that different Macky. Savile’s conduct was widely known of in certain circles but it was deliberately kept from the public. As long ago as 1978 John Lydon in an interview referred to ‘seediness that we all know about but aren’t allowed to talk about’ in relation to Savile. For that Lydon was banned from the BBC.
I just don’t believe that the RF didn’t know about Savile any more than they didn’t know about Epstein. We are talking about a family whose primary school children’s friends have to undergo security vetting. Nobody remotely dodgy would get within 1000 miles of the RF, unless they choose it. I’m afraid I have to conclude that as a family they are really not that bothered about the abuse of children and minors, and don’t consider it a big deal.
Mackey, I thought there were flight records showing Andrew went to Epstein’s Island. I cannot think of one way that PA would NOT know there were underage girls. I’m sure it’s why he was there.
-Saucy. epstein was first and foremost a money laundered and tax cheat. He took his “celebrity” “tax” clients to the island to -at least what they thought- talk tax avoidance.
What some of them didn’t know was their names was used to pad the flight logs. Another reason why he gave short trips on his jet. Isn’t it crazy to offer your jet for a 25, 50 minute flights, to people who already had transport? He did it to create tons of records. He did it so he could hide trip times, fuel usage, and actual passenger destinations.
I still think andrew was a mascot but I guess, if you squint, you can say he was a front for money laundering and he didn’t know about the blackmailing and under-age girls.
I mean was Andrew a client or was he paid with girls? Was he a client or partner. I think he was a partner on some deals. Like that ski chalet! What is up with that? He was taking loans on it and he still owed the original owner.
All those troublemakers can remain in that tent and piss on each other, they do such a fine job of it.
Stay in the tent
“and piss on each other” 😂😂😂
HAA-HA!
Perfectly stated.
Indeed..
LOL!
Do you think Charles cares about Archie and Lili at all?
No. All he cares about is how he and Cam look to the world.
@equality – did you catch that comment by Lownie about Andrew “But he’s not been rude about Camilla”? My bet is Harry calling Camilla dangerous in Spare, after all the effort and money that was spent over the years trying to rehab her image, was a very very big deal for Charles, even though KC should have been thanking his lucky stars how relatively easy Harry went one him. (I still suspect the remarks about Camilla are one reason why Charles yanked Frogmore, which IIRC became public news just after Spare came out.)
And how was Harry, any child for that matter, supposed to feel about the woman who interfered in his parents’ marriage, colluded in making his beloved mother’s life a living hell, helped break up that marriage and took his mother’s place? Did Charles really expect him to shower Camilla with flowers, sunshine, and chocolates? What a shock to him that Harry didn’t harbor any feelings other than repulsion and most likely hatred towards her.
Charles’ attitude to his youngest son, lovely DIL and two beautiful children is incomprehensible to me as a parent. He is a weak, insecure bloke obsessed with Camzilla. Another CBer gave the opinion that things would have been different if he’d married her in the 1970s and they had had kids together. Sadly I believe both sons remind him of Diana and he feels in competition with them just as he did with his unloved first wife . Charles has Camzilla and Willy in his life and like King Lear has cut off a loving son, Meghan and Archie and Lilly for idle flattery.
Lady d. Camilla married the man she wanted. Had two children she loves. Andrew was seeing other women and acting tired of her- allegedly.
Charles stated repeatedly he didn’t want to marry Camilla at the time. I believe him. Once he got back to shore he would’ve gave her a long engagement and than married someone else.
lol … hard no. C Rex cares about himself and his consort. That’s it.
It’s actually quite a thing to witness just how much C Rex LOVES *kinging* It’s revolting 🤮
I think the only grandchild he cares about is George. George reflects on him the others are useless. He just does have to pretend with Archie and Lily
Does it matter if he does/does not??
“The strategy, I believe, is to keep in with him and to marginalize her.”
Then Charles will never be “in” with Harry. Harry has said it again and again that’s there’s no him without her. They’re a team, a unit and trying to act like she (and by extension their children) don’t exist is not going to work and Harry is not gonna put up with that bullshit.
The british royal mafia institution has tried so desperately to understand and navigate this unprecedented reality that H&M have forced on them, that theyve now come to the point of convincing themselves that its “just like edward and wallace.”
Edward&Wallace is the template theyre using to advise themselves on how to treat with H&M.
I distinctly recall, during the months following H&M’s announcement of their decision to leave, during the period when the left-behinds were in their screeching and crying and throwing up mode, that rotarats were regurgitating briefings from palace sources basically confessing that they’d never been faced with a situation like this in the 1000 year history of the BRF.
And that therefore, theyre gonna have to play it by ear and make decisions based on what H&M do. That is, they confessed that theyre gonna take their cues from H&M and apply their punitive measures reactively……tho of course they never called it that. But of course we know, cruelty is the goal with those scum of the earth.
Because wallace was the female married-in, an american and a divorcee, like M, they think they can put M in that box.
And because Edward was the high-profile royal who moved abroad but who hungered and thirsted for the royal privileges and perks he left behind, they think they can put H in that box.
Its going to be their biggest miscalculation.
Analyse pertinente concernant le calcul du brf .
Le duc de windsor ne pouvait pas se passer de luxe alors que le duc de sussex a déjà démontré qu’il peut vivre simplement.
Malgré tout je voudrais que meghan et harry Prosper financièrement pour ne pas avoir à demander à Charles.
Agreed, Kingston. For some reason, they are fundamentally unable to comprehend that Harry isn’t bothered by not being a part of the royal family anymore. He’s not sitting by a fire, weeping about how he’s been thrown aside, and hosting parties where he waxes poetic about that one time he was the king.
Edward was the man who was desperate to be royal, to his death. Harry does not care.
Lissane – “Analyse pertinente”
INDEED!
Heir ≠ Spare
Can’t someone take pity on the RF and put them out of their misery by abolishing the monarchy?
In which parallel universe is Harry, and to a lesser extent Meghan, putting the record straight after thousands of made-up reports, lies, smears, and being libelled the same as misusing someone else’s £ 12 million to pay off a trafficked woman who was raped that Paedrew claims he has never met?
The Men in Grey are even bigger failures than we all previously dared imagine, if they think it looks OK to go public with this drivel, slandering Harry and (mainly) Meghan yet again.
Is there no one there who can tell them all to stop, no one with half a working brain, or at least some sort of street smarts?
That’s what it is. They lack street smarts. Fire the lot of them. On the UK’s Black History month you leak to the world via your press lackeys that you are are going to marginalize and ignore your mixed race daughter in-law and her mixed race children. Treat them like they are not part of the Royal family. The stupidity of those remarks. SMH. You couldn’t make this stuff up.
They lack street smarts, and ALL smarts. What a farce
Hard to imagine the mindset of a father in law and grandfather who wishes to do this to his daughter in law and mother of his grandchildren; also to his son who loves her. Perhaps C’s plan is to calm the waters with green eyed Kate – yes, Willam and i want Harry back (as much as you do!) but don’t worry we’ll do our best to keep Meghan out of the picture. Yuck.
Should we be surprise that Charles wants to marginalize Meghan.
The answer is a big No. Remember Charles did not want her to be working royal, wanted her to continue acting. Charles also said he has no money for Meghan and Archie’s security. He did not want Archie and Lilli to have the title of Prince and Princess .
I’ll forever scratch my head over Charles’ claim of “no money” for Meghan or their security-the man is a billionaire! 🙄
That’s “on paper.” Billionaire “on paper” in actuality, those castles, palaces, golden pianos, crown jewels… okay, I give up. The man’s a liar.
And he told Harry that Meghan couldn’t come to the queens deathbed at Balmoral, because she wasn’t family. I think that that incident closed the door for Meghan: she stayed for her funeral out of respect for the QE2, but her refusing to go to his coronation stemmed from that incident. And there wont be any Windsor ‘family’ gathering in the future for her. She’s not gonna take no humiliation from the UK royal anymore, she’s done with them.
Yes. That’s exactly what closed the deal. Meghan doesn’t want to deal with those people. She is done. Charles has already told the world Meghan isn’t family. All she can do is to live her life and pay them dust.
I’ll never understand how this family ALWAYS gets it wrong. Yes, keep marginalizing your biracial daughter in law and mother of your grandchildren. That will make everything better and convince Harry as well.
Right?! Putting it out there that their plan is to continue to hate on and marginalize Meghan is really gonna win over Harry’s heart and mind. They are so 👏🏽 stupid 👏🏽
I will forever be baffled by the royals and rota’s shock at Harry leaving. They are STILL badmouthing his dead mother, and they added Harry’s wife and children to the roll call for abuse.
The better question is why the hell William hasn’t left, she was his mother too.
^^ Ah yes @Christine, you def onto something. That’s the real question. What happened to Willy? Overly spoilt? Overly indulged by palace operatives in his teens and twenties, and endlessly made to believe that Harry was forever his scapegoat and ‘liege man of life and limb,’ as the ancient, out of touch oath proclaims? 🤔🫢😮💨
Moreover, Willy was hit on the head in a sporting accident in his teens. That can’t have helped the underlying Windsor genetic propensity to rage at one’s gilded cage plight. Plus, if we look at Willy’s astrological chart and his personality profile, there are eye-opening clues to his oversensitivity and other character weaknesses, which apparently his additional unsuited kingly burdens, coupled with the misfortune of losing his mother have only added to, in the worst sense.
And this is what will be the downfall of the Leftover Royals.
Imagine saying with a straight face (and not one that’s projectile vomiting from the vileness of what you’re about to say) that you value a pedophile rapist over a man who married a black woman and told the truth about the abuse he/they received. And imagine thinking it’s a good strategy to publicize this globally.
These idiots are the dumbest fcuks to ever walk the earth. Everytime I think they can’t come out with a worse strategy than they floated the week before, they prove me wrong. My goodness. The hubris and stupidity is off the charts.
May the putrid, abusive stank that they’ve put into the world come back at them tenfold.
You know what? The homeless guy on the corner is more fit to be king than Charles. What a horrible, lousy, useless, emotionally-crippled abomination of a man. Ugh. And that’s all aside from he and his sidepiece being as ugly as sin. Abolish the monarchy.
I’d say it’s more a case of Meghan, and Harry, marginalizing Charles and the rest of them, but what do I know. If that weren’t true, these doofuses wouldn’t still be harping on about this almost four years after H&M left. They all can’t imagine being RF adjacent isn’t the be all and end all they think it is. Therefore Harry must be longing to be part of things again, whatever the terms, including excluding his wife and children. Good luck with that.
I wonder where Charles will be, who he’ll have around him he can trust, if/when Camilla goes first. Apart from possibly Anne, is there anyone else besides Harry who might truly care about him, as opposed to caring about what money, titles, houses he can give them?
So which direction was Andrew “pissing” when he did his interview (that conveniently gets overlooked)? And Charles when he interviewed for his bio and “pissed” all over QE and Phil? When they leak info about other palaces which way are they “pissing”? Seems to me the ground is urine-soaked inside and outside the tent.
I think in that interview Andrew was firmly pissing on himself.
Either way it’s a dank and stinking place to be.
I believe that Charles will continue to give Andrew what he wants to PREVENT Andrew from giving an interview to Oprah… or writing a tell all… or leaking the real juicy stuff… or pulling back the curtain.
It’s not rewarding “loyalty.” It’s ensuring silence. It’s desperately trying to prevent more truth from coming out.
Agreed, and I think that Podcast Sarah fits in that equation as well.
Sarah already did a reality show with Oprah. If Charles tries to oust Andrew. His ex could do another interview
I wonder if that’s part of the deal/leverage that Andrew uses, he and Sarah are still close/together and she could go all-in talking about everything she knows if Andrew doesn’t get what he wants.
^^ Neither Sarah nor Andrew are very bright, let’s be honest. They are grifters who have made lousy, sus, corrupt alliances, often witlessly letting themselves be used. Still, I doubt that either Sarah or Andrew truly desire to be on the outside of the firm’s royal tent.
Oh well, when you understand the background on both Sarah and Andrew, it becomes questionable that the firm didn’t just ignore the tabloids and fight for Andrew’s first choice of a bride, Kathleen ‘Koo’ Stark. Most of the public still believe she was a porn star. SHE WAS NOT! This view is aided and abetted by her suggestive, albeit innocent childhood nickname, coupled with the outlandish rota smears she endured. Unfortunately, Koo had been taken advantage of by an indie film director when she was 17. She was enticed to remove her clothes for an acting scene in an experimental film project. That was it, the full extent of her so-called ‘porn’ career.
Moreover, Koo and Andrew were truly in love. And the royals reportedly liked her. She grew up in a wealthy American family. Of course, ultimately who knows what might have happened had Koo and Andrew been allowed to marry? 🤔 Yet, at the very least, they loved each other, and she is much smarter than Sarah. Koo may have been able to steer Andrew in a better direction. Interestingly, they remained friends over the years. It might also be said though, that Koo dodged a bullet. 🫣
That guy will never see his grandchildren or Harry. I am so glad Meghan is keeping her children away from them a-holes. They really want to be the white supremacist Royal family.
Charles is trapped by his own actions and reactions and I love to see it! He believed all the sh!t that he, Cowmilla and the BM wrote about Harry all those years and seriously misread and underestimated his own son and what he could achieve.
Now that Harry ~with huge love and support from Meghan~ has been cementing his place in the world as a global statesman, the poor relationship reflects really badly on KFC. As Harry’s star rises and KFC’s crown seems increasingly tarnished, he will feel increasing pressure to repair the rift or at least appear to make efforts ( better and more authentic efforts than the stupid press ploys that have been used so far).
But with Harry making it clear that both an acknowledgement for what happened to Meghan and his family as well as an apology to Meghan needs to happen before there is any reconciliation, it makes it much more difficult for KFC to effect a peaceful reunion.
Because that would mean Charles admits that what Cowmilla is accused of is true, that he let it all happen, that the RF conspired with the BM to smear H&M. And while he could almost put distance between himself and the actions of his courtiers and BM he can’t squirm out of taking away security, not supporting Harry’s bid for police protection while in the UK and actually evicting the Sussexes from their lawful residence in Windsor.
Making up with Harry would mean owning up to all that and I don’t know that he is man enough. With this latest twist, maybe we are seeing that KFC is getting desperate enough that he is hoping to just have a relationship with Harry and continue to ignore Meghan and the kids. It would be less obvious then that it’s Meghan turning her back on the RF vs the other way around. But I’m pretty sure Harry has his wife’s back here and can clearly see what’s going on and that doesn’t involve making nice publicly with KFC until his conditions are met.
Perfect analysis!
Excellent analysis. Charles’ weak character pretty much ensures he will never meet Harry’s conditions.
The only reason he wants to connect with harry, is for photo ops. he has none of harry with the family at the conanation, and none after her maj’s funeral, as both times Harry peaced out right after the main services. history will not be kind to him when 100 years from now, when prince phillip’s will is unsealed, the record shows that charles was a mean and spiteful man who isolated one of his two sons.
it’s never going to stop being funny that Chuck is so stupid, it never occurred to him that his petty punishments around his coronation assured that Harry would never be near him, and thus he has no photo with the son the world loves, while he’s in his big boy coronation robes.
Also to add further context Charles and Andrew have never really got on, so let that sink in as to how utterly pointless Charles is as a father.
Anyway I love this for him because he has essentially made it clear that they are not a family and are in fact just a Firm in the same vein as the Grisham books.
He has effectively signaled the end of the Monarchy as a family and solidified them as an institution, which is one of the last reasons the British public were willing to fund them.
Someone finally speaks the obvious truth, “Harry seems in no rush to bend the knee to his father.” Charles & Willy et al wants us to believe they’re the ones with the upper hand, but Harry said apologize first; he wants a family not an institution.
Also, why do these articles always try to give Camilla credit as some kind of peacemaker? She created half this mess if not more, but now she’s significantly urging Charles to do the right thing?
He doesn’t have to worry about Meghan because she’s done with those people. Meghan cut off her own father what makes them think she will continue to all disrespect from the Windsors? Harry is a grown man he can do what he want but Meghan is done with them. Harry isn’t going to tolerate them disrespecting his wife. That woman put him first when everyone in his family put his last. He’s not going to allow them to treat her like she’s not a part of him and they aren’t a team
I’d say she has definitely put him first at a great cost to herself. No way Harry is going to let those people disrespect his wife. His wife lost a baby due to the stress of this nonsense. One of the saddest parts of reading Spare is when they buried their baby. I would say they are a team like no other. If Charles or his awful family think Harry will tolerate them disrespecting Meghan he runs the risk of never seeing his grandchildren ever. Like someone said before I really believe Meghan is done with them.
Meghan s father sold her out in this case Meghan as she said lost her father.
“The difference is [Andrew] deeply regrets it and it was not intentional”… so what, he tripped and fell into the underage girl?
He was in pizza express in Woking. Bea is his alibi! lol.
The only thing Andrew deeply regrets is getting caught. If rumours are true and Virginia Giuffre is writing a memoir he’d better start stocking up on Depends because he’s going to be sh*tting his expensive silk undies hourly.
Being called out was a shock for Andrew. The girl should have known her place and realised that not only was it an honour to be sh***** by a Royal but it was also his right. ‘The Right of the Lord’ as it was in history. I’m sickened. The RF think that any ‘speaking out’ about their depraved lives is traitorous. The World’s Most Toxic Family.
The truly horrific part of all of this is the well-heeled men hiding behind stupid Andrew, who were also neck-deep involved with Epstein!🤫😳🫣🫢 Dumb Andrew serves as the idiot poster boy for all of the enormous transgressions perpetrated by Epstein, Ghislaine, et al., including all of the global, corrupt ‘law enforcement’ a*holes who conveniently looked the other way, and who helped cover things up, which allowed Epstein to continue his dirty deeds for years, until the despicable enterprise blew up.
Most observers being over-focused on Andrew alone, because he is corrupt, immoral, and he was too stupid to cover his tracks, is exactly what the vile perpetrators in hiding love to see.
Charles, this isn’t a military or politial campaign where you need strategies. This is your son, who is married to a woman he loves and with 2 children he loves. This is your son and daughter-in-law and your 2 grandchildren. If you love your son and want to reconnect with him, you will also have to include your daughter-in-law and your grandchildren. There’s no strategy around it – it’s a fact.
If you can’t and won’t embrace both Harry and his family, then just shut up and forget about it.
chuckyDaTURD told us all, over 40 years ago, that he doesnt know what love is.
Believe him.
I don’t think anyone has ever stood up to Charles in his entire life. He’s in shock right now. I imagine he’s walking around in his palaces muttering “But I’m the king….” to himself over and over. The nerve of Harry and Meghan treating Charles like he’s a mere human being who has to behave appropriately in order to engage with them. Really! It sounds like Chuck is so used to bullying and tantruming his way through life that he can’t cope when it doesn’t work. The fact that these same dumb “strategy” articles are regurgitated over and over seems to indicate somebody is short circuiting in the UK.
Yeah, Will’s tantrums look a lot more like learned behavior when looking at the real Charles. The 🍎 fell 1 inch from the tree and inherited all of the rage and stupidity
Some writer i don’t recall the name said Diana was the first to say no to Charles.
I think you’re spot on here, it’s all about power and hierarchy in that ‘family’ so from birth (almost) Charles was the heir and treated accordingly. He’s never matured emotionally.
To actually allow the message that your plan is to marginalize the one black woman in the royal family during black history month is really something. Wow, what a bad plan. Might as well stamp we are very much a racist family on their foreheads or go out with Scarlett R’s pinned to all their clothes.
@Jais – you took the words right off my keyboard. Whoever thought this message was a good idea at any time needs a good talking to but, to allow it to be used during BHM just beggars belief.
I wonder how their search for the Diversity Tzar is going? What is it now over two years since the Oprah interview and they’re still looking. If they really think they don’t need one they should look at articles like these again. Marginalising a mixed-race DIL and totally ignoring two beautiful mixed-raced grand-children is telling me (and the rest of the world) these people are in serious need of help.
No, they haven’t been looking for a diversity tsar. A few months after it was initially mentioned, they put out words, something something, the gist of which was, they weren’t going to bother looking for someone. That was no surprise; the surprise was someone advised them to propose the idea in the first place. Whoever that was is probably long gone.
Sorry windyriver I forgot to put the /s in my post. The Diversity Tzar is one of my many pet peeves with this awful family. We ALL knew they weren’t going to appoint one, they haven’t and now it’s all been miraculously forgotten.
IMHO the mythical Tzar appointment is down there with:
* Stripping Harry of his military patronages (including giving him a damaged uniform to wear at his beloved grandmothers coffin)
* Making a huge issue out of snubbing Lili’s first birthday party
* Granting Camilla the title of Queen instead of the original title of Princess Consort..
Seriously, a single mention of any those subjects immediately makes my blood boil.
This makes me so angry! What fool Charles is.
Yeah Right-That woman put him first when everyone in his family put his last. He’s not going to allow them to treat her like she’s not a part of him and they aren’t a team.
🗣 Thank you, hope those in the back heard you !!!!!
Yeah right-That woman put him first when everyone in his family put his last. He’s not going to allow them to treat her like she’s not a part of him and they aren’t a team.
🗣 Thank you…
Charles marginalized Harry and Meghan long before the Oprah interview. He cut security and financial support in contravention to the Sandringham agreement the Firm made with Harry and exposed their location to the press in 2020. Isolation was the policy b4 Harry s book, Netflix docuseries or Oprah. Chuck and the Firm are liars.
Yes, you’re right. The marginalization began way before Oprah. This is more rewriting of history.
Interesting that ***Camilla*** urged reconciliation with Andrew 🤔
They means letting Andrew keep Royal Lodge, paying for his security (they said it’s KC3 funded, not taxpayer, right?), and his general upkeep. As well as Fergie’s I assume since they are low-key a team package.
Why? What’s in it for Camila? There’s ALWAYS something in it for Camila…
She gets to have them kiss her ass. Fergie can tell everyone how lovely she is and that she will do whatever to support them. I really believe that they don’t understand why Meghan doesn’t want anything to do with them or will allow her children to be around them. There is nothing these people can offer Meghan accept an apology and I believe they really believe she isn’t worth it. Hence the stalemate. No apology no Meghan and her kids.
The head of the Church of England wants to marginalize his daughter-in-law and his grandchildren.
@bluenailsbetty, exactly, what a disgrace he is
Hey Charlie, couple of questions for you.
Did your parents marginalise you, when you said in your book and your interview that your father was harsh and hectoring and and your mother was cold and emotionally distant? See you told “your life story, but in your eyes, it’s a crime for your son to do the same?
Second question, how did your” marginalising “Diana work out, because didn’t she get stronger and more relevant on the world stage AFTER she left your gilded cage? And if she wasn’t involved in that”convenient car crash, she would have continues to outshine the bloody lot of your rotten throng.
Harry is his mother’s son, and you will never bring him down, nor will he allow you to disrespect his wife, or marginalise her, in fact, he has done pretty well in marginalising you, your surrogate mother and your incandescent son along with your vain, clothes horse daughter in law his wife!!
And how weak does this make you look, because it makes it clear that Andrew the perv was able to blackmail you to get what he wants! So you keep supporting your sick, perverted brother, because THAT alone shows the world what a coward you are. Harry and Megan are outside your tent, because your tent is nothing more than a circus big top full of clowns. And they are better than that
The difference is that Harry owned his words about his family by putting his name on the cover of the book; Charles didn’t have the courage to.
It was all Charles. Dimbleby got access to Charles correspondence his friends and extensive interviews with Charles. Charles if he blamed dimbleby would be sued.
I always know I’m reading a Mary Pester comment without even seeing the name on top. Love your perspectives, and no holds barred posts. Keep ’em coming!
@JAZZHANDS, thank you lovey x
Yeah @Mary Pester. Right on! I agree with your sentiments. The only thing I would add, is that Andrew is being supported now as a result of having never been contained from the very beginning. Andrew was the real, dangerous loose cannon. Geidt did his best to curb Andrew, until he was over-thrown in the palace power struggle that ensued as Betty & Philip further declined in their 90s.
The firm is made up of a bunch of snobby, outdated jerk a*holes and incompetent clowns, with clueless ditherer Chuck at the helm. 🤡 🥴 At least, this is what they have revealed theirselves to be, and how they continue to operate.
They always repeat the same thing and never think what is Harry and Meghan’s pov. On his book tour, Harry was clear about the next step which was to come from them. They didn’t move and the Sussexes went ahead with their project and their life. Really, there is nothing to add to this story.
“The difference is [Andrew] deeply regrets it and it was not intentional, whereas Harry and Meghan deliberately set out to cause as much damage to Charles and Camilla as they could to sell books and TV shows. That’s an entirely different matter. Disloyalty is far and away the No. 1 crime in that family.”
I want everyone to read this twice and let it sink in.
First, Harry and Meghan very eloquently stated their intent in doing the interview and it wasn’t to cause harm to Harry’s weak as dirt father, it was to tell their side of *their* story because the only one who had been telling their story prior to, was the toxic British press. The RF is so worried about more books being written because they know the hell that they put H&M through.
Second, and most importantly, the toxic, racist, vile British media is saying that a man who WILLFULLY raped literal children did not do so intentionally?! Read that as, King Charles’ favorite brother, is sorry he got caught being a literal monster, he meant to hide the fact that he is a child rapist. But now that the world knows, he’s “oh shucks” sorry.
Andrew is viewed more favorably than a couple who’s only “crime” was asking the Royal Family and British press to treat them with just a little bit of human decency and dignity.
This article is heinous. The juxtaposition of Andrew with Harry/Meghan is vile. One is a demon who willfully violates literal children, the other is simply a biracial couple. There is no comparison and the fact that the crazy British media thinks there is, is exactly why the Royal Family is well and thoroughly past their prime.
Apt that they should use the word *marginalized* to describe the treatment of Meghan.
The “it was not intentional” comment about Andrew made me gasp.
Well, he didn’t “intend” to get caught. (s)
Yes, he didn’t intend to make the family look bad. We all know that’s the real crime here.
“They both have more books coming.”
Needs sourcing.
The BRF is so lucky that both Harry and Meghan have decided their mental well being and looking forward is the most important thing.
Excellent point…
This is just clickbait obviously. charles knows Harry is done unless he makes amends to his wife; anything else written is the noise of the life-long wish of cujos. If he hasnt gotten that yet, maybe someone could send him that clip, about 6 mins I think, of Harry saying, ‘my wife’, ‘my amazing wife’, ad infinitum. He may not have time to meet with his son when he’s in town but surely he has 6 minutes to spare? Better yet, sit alone in one of his numerous rooms, and just watch H’s speeches this year at IG (that’s who H is now – with the help of his AMAZING WIFE and best speech giver ever – not the nervous, abused young man who gave that first IG speech). To further cement where H is now, take in that picture of him with his arms wrapped around HIS WIFE surrounded by an adoring crowd.
This is so incredibly disgusting. The absolute disrespect they show towards Meghan is so incredibly racist and abusive. They really want to destroy her. This is truly a messed up institution and Charles is a POS.
In all due respect, this has nothing to do with Meghan.
This cowardly behaviour is akin to a one-hand clapping….
Then why mention her at all, which they seem to do a lot of lately? Why is her not engaging with them such a sore point. Her not going to that coronation was a big deal.
Andrew has not “taken his punishment” as he has never been faced with any consequences for credible accusations. We know perfectly well that charlie will keep the pervet because he knows every secrets of this family. And my god what a terrible story to leak to the media thinking it make them look good.
“Harry is a loose canon and Meghan even more so”
This is such an obvious lie that perfectly incapsulates how racist these people are. Meghan is not the one who wrote a memoir. Nor is she the one who did multiple interviews promoting said memoir. Meghan has rarely ever spoken about those people on that island and most times she has been very restrained especially compared to Harry. I obviously don’t fault Harry fo that: he has every right to tell his own story and speak about his relatives’ toxic and abuse behavior towards him and his little family but when they act like Meghan is the one doing this when it’s been Harry we all can see it for what it is: a disgusting racist attempt to blame the biracial lady for everything so they don’t have to admit that their favorite Prince chose to build a happy loving life with her and their kids over taking abuse on that island and that he would do it again if he had the choice.
This tells you how much the Palace and press are willing to forgive Harry but not Meghan. It’s disgusting.
Love it! Please keep telling the truth Chuckie. Every year that goes by proves how smart the Sussexes were to live when they did. More importantly Chuck’s honesty makes it clear how awful that “family” is. They have their mouthpieces saying the Sussexes refusing to be abused and telling the truth about their abuse is a worse crime than being a sex predator.
Lol the firm looks awful! All honor, kindness, regality and even the appearance of goodness is gone now. Truly love it for them.
A legend in his own mind. Chuck I hate to break it to you but to Meg you don’t exist. She didn’t come to your special hat day, could give a damn about visiting you ever and has a true queen for a parent and grandparent to her children. Meg has moved on and is somewhere right now happy, rested, moisturized and rich. You are irrelevant to Meg.
Also Harry has a family, friends, respect and also moved on. Try to find some peace with your Hooved Queen and leave them alone.
Hooved Queen is my favourite nickname so far WOW
Chuckles wants to keep Rapist happy because Rapist knows where the bodies are buried.
Andrew is the loose cannon. He had that very embarrassing interview where he said he could not sweat. And Charles was a loose cannon through his interviews with dimbleby giving material to him for his authorized biography. Complaining vigorously about his parents
Well done Charles. Ostracize the one person with the brains, street smarts and ambition, not to forget charisma, that has the power to save your sorry ass and monarchy.
When are the media in England going to figure out. Harry doesn’t care at all about the monarchy. Harry wants a father and brother. Not the monarch and heir. He is never going to go back to the Royal Family. Even if he and Meghan get divorced or not. Every one of their theories revolves around him coming back and working for Charles. Not going to happen.
I honestly think some of what Harry said in is Spate interviews was the equivalent of “ don’t start none, won’t be none”. He was asked about reconciliation and gave some bland answer. Was asked if he supports the monarchy, gave a non commital answer. Asked about racism, turned the question back on the interviewer. He cares a lot less about these people than he’s letting on and while they may think their nasty petty gestures are doing something, it probably just makes Harry more disgusted with them. They have not proven they are trustworthy or worthy of his respect.
And no one is asking this question, but why does Meghan need to be marginalized? Do they think that looks good to the Commonwealth Nations? Are these people really that stupid?
Because she doesn’t matter to them. She’s a biracial married-in. Yes, they are that stupid.
O I think she matters to them. That’s the problem. They are afraid of her because she is intelligent and fearless and has figured out all the shit the goes on behind the scenes. Fear.
I don’t think anyone really cares what Charles think except the monarchists and their trolls in the UK. They’re becoming more and more irrelevant throughout the world. Charles and his court are still stuck in the 19th century.
19th century? Try the 16th.
I’m so sick of the lies and gaslighting. The Trump era has made this type of truth very common now. They don’t care because the people that should be calling them out is just as corrupt as they are, and they lie as just as much.
Sorry, but the BM started with lies and gaslighting way before Trump. They did it to Diana also. The monarchy is Trump’s inspiration.
All the damage to the Royal Family was done by the Royal Family. Harry and Meghan just pointed it out. Apparently the Royal Family has such a taste for damaging itself that it intends to continue ad nauseam.
At this time they are telling on one another….
Yeah, Harry’s the loose cannon. One day he’s hosting a massive global event for veterans and the next he’s getting dinner with his wife. No one knows what will come next from that wild ginger. But humble Andrew, sure.
Charles favors Andrew because he can control him. Andrew has nowhere to go and is completely dependent, therefore subservient, to Charles. Harry has proven that he doesn’t need the king for anything and cannot be brought to heel. This drives Charles crazy. What’s the point of being king if you can’t boss people around?
Interesting point. I mean, nothing short of prison is a just outcome for Andrew, but I hadn’t really considered that Charles is probably making his life miserable, after a lifetime of Andrew being coddled by mummy.
In other words, nothing to see nor hear in this scenario……
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Media popularity does not translate to popularity among the majority of citizenry
“But the inconvenient fact remains that it rather looks like the king would prefer you pay off a sex accuser than give an interview to Oprah Winfrey.”
It “rather looks like” this, because it IS this. But Virginia G is not a “sex accuser.” She is the victim of trafficking and rape. Neither of which constitute “sex.”
And I nearly had a rage stroke when I read the line that what Andrew did was “not intentional, whereas Harry and Meghan deliberately set out to cause as much damage to Charles and Camilla as they could to sell books and TV shows.”
What, did Pedrew accidentally fall on the teenage trafficking victim? And Harry and Meghan did NOT deliberately set out to cause damage to Charles and Camilla. Harry told the truth. If that was damaging to C&C, that’s because they are abusive lowlifes.
Meghan, meanwhile, just has been living her life, doing good and meaningful work and raising her beautiful children. For that — and particularly for having the audacity as a Black woman to marry Harry and to stay in a loving marriage with him — she needs to be marginalized. Nice “Black History Month” message, Buckingham Palace. You might as well put it on banners and fly it behind airplanes all over the Commonwealth.
It’s difficult to remember at times that the UK government wants a trade agreement with the US. President Biden is a father who loves unconditionally. The US Vice President is a woman of color–what does this tell our Administration? I realize that the King only has soft diplomacy, but I’m sure that includes talks about the two countries’ business. Otherwise, why does the home office ask the brf to go on tours to specific countries? I have a feeling that the UK government takes a very hard line and Biden looks askance.
I’ve read where the UK has actually gone to a couple of Southern states to get trade agreements with them.
KFC really needs to stop briefing through the press and start speaking for himself. He is, IMO, continuing to isolate the UK. Is that what he wants?
What was that? I think I saw Harry flip off his Father.
Wow. After you mentioned about trade deals above with some of the Southern states, I googled and yep there it is . From the same article, I think they were in talks with California last year but I haven’t heard anything on the local news on this. Considering the US is their largest trading partner, I understand the importance for them. But Biden is doing what’s best for the country at the moment(love the jobs report that came out today).
On a semi-related note, My kids and niece loves Olivia Rodrigo(I do too). And while she was promoting her new album last month she was also doing a YT video a on British goods etc. many comments on the video were asking is she doing an advertisement for the UK 🙂
AC, how interesting that Olivia Rodrigo is promoting British goods. It sounds like a new tactic by the UK, doesn’t it?
Some one else making statements about H&M future actions. Andrew Lownie says “They both have more books coming” really? where did he get that information from? the tooth fairy? I constantly get angry at the failure of tabloid writers to challenge the claims made on a daily basis about H&M.
The difference isn’t the Oprah interview, exactly. Charles himself has done a version of the Oprah interview and Andrew sat for his own disastrous interview, which tarnished the BRF’s reputation.
The difference is that Andrew hasn’t done anything that their forefathers haven’t done (ie, rape, corruption, incompetence), but Harry has: he had Church-sanctioned sex with a Black woman and claimed her children as his own. What he has done exposes the foundational myths/pillars of the BRF and the British Empire. It is, therefore, unforgivable. If Harry were to abandon and repudiate Meghan and his children, he would be “welcomed” back into the family fold—as an errant spare, of course.
Charles is the man who said, “whatever in love is.” Charles is the man who criticized his parents severely through a biographer. He mad Camilla his non-negotiable. I don’t know what you call his feeling for Camilla , but one thing is clear to anyone who has paid any attention to Charles’s life is that his existence depends on her. She provides fills in whatever deep well of emptiness he has. Meghan is Harry’s non-negotiable. It’s clear that by loving him, she almost lost her life, and he is clearly devoted to protecting her. Harry told his story and had the guts to put his name on it. I doubt Charles is capable of having any concern for anyone except Camilla. Archie and Lili are not deprived of a grand-father’s love not because they did anything to lose it, but because it seems they have a grand-father who doesn’t seem capable of it. Charles is a sad, pathetic, cowardly piece of flesh.
He is utterly useless and an emotional cripple.
Chuck is incapable of loving his grandchildren. His philosophy of white supremacy prevents him from doing so. He feels he has to show his “subjects” that Archie, Lili, and Meghan are nothing to him. What a colossal failure he is!
Liz could’ve done more to publicly support Harry and shield Meghan, but Charles wrote the book on how to disdain your own child.
Charles is delusional. He dares not disown Harry, so he continues to give the public the impression that he’s open to reconciliation, which I seriously doubt. Harry said what he said and moved on. As for him marginalizing Meghan, could you tell us another joke? Charles knows Meghan doesn’t care how he feels about her and her children, which fractures his tissue-thin ego. During the March 2020 interview, when discussing the removal of their security, Meghan wrote Charles a letter stating, “I know you don’t care about me and Archie, but please protect my husband.” Perhaps many needed to remember, but I remembered. She let us know that she knew Charles didn’t care about her. That’s why she didn’t attend his coronation. It was never about whether she would or wouldn’t attend. It was given she would not engage in any activities directly involving members of her husband’s family except for Her Majesty, the Queen. Charles is telling the media that he doesn’t want Meghan, but Meghan has long since given Charles the middle finger!
Andrew was the Queens’s favourite and manipulated her into giving him property and monies all her life. His orinal gift of private property was sold above market value to a Saudi and mysteriously burnt down and rebuilt on the land into a grander property.
Andrew never paid market rate for the Royal Lodge and got benefits on top to maintain it from mummy. His father is Lord Porchester not the /duke of Edinburgh, allegedly, and is why the Duke of Edinburgh was rushed back from another of his long distance travels away with his own companions to then produce Prince Edward to show all was ok with his marriage to Betty.
Look at Andrew and the other kids and a photo of Lord Porchester.
Anne was gifted massive private property too. And QEII illegally used Crown Estate funds to fix up that private property for Anne.
Kazakh, not Saudi.
No, Porchie is not Andrew’s father. Andrew was the bandaid baby after the years of separation following Lizzie’s ascension to the monarch position. Andrew looks like the Queen Mum and her family. Any ‘resemblance’ to Porchie is simply bloated old white men similarity.
Edward wasn’t an oopsie, political move, or unwanted. Edward was Philip’s fav child and the one he doted on his entire life. The one kid he gave his real love and attention to. That’s why he wanted Edward to have the Edinburgh title.
The lease for Royal Lodge has been repeatedly reviewed and found to be legal and sufficient. Not undervalued, not underpaid. Market rate.
IMO QEII paid for both the RL lease and the Bagshot lease – with Andrew and Edward’s inheritances. That meant they got the benefit of the money without paying any tax on it.
Don’t know why people continue with this fallacy about Porchie.
QEII and Philip’s 1959 six week Canada tour (June/July) was announced in January 1959, right around when Philip left for his solo three month tour. It was always the plan that Philip would return in plenty of time for the Canada tour prep.
Philip’s 1959 solo Tour? He left 20 January 1959 and returned 1 May. That was the pre-announced plan, it wasn’t cut short.
Andrew was born 19 February 1960, 41 weeks after Philip returned from tour. Reminder average human pregnancy is technically 40 weeks.
He’s Philip’s kid. QEII, who LOVED sex with Philip, jumped Phil’s bones the moment he got home.
What is this new nonsense about Edward now? Edward was born 10 March, 1964. Means he was conceived June/July 1963.
Philip wasn’t on solo tour during that time. QEII and Phil were together doing public engagements all over the UK in May/June/July 1963. Trooping the Colour and Order of the Garter in June as an example. Philip was photographed playing polo during the season June/July in the UK too. You can verify this easily by searching places like Alamy for images of them in 1963.
And Harry’s stategy is ‘no comment, no interaction, no contact except for exceptional reasons like funerals and no interest in returning to the ‘fold of control’.
Plus he has stated that no apology from the ‘Family’ means no reconciliation.
In fact I know nothing about any of these people. I have watched the RF for years and have seen some sad things. Certainly they are rich privileged people. Mostly my opinion of them isn’’t high.
When I think of H & M, I am thinking of their actions at the Invictus Games. So much hands on Appreciation of those athletes. I was impressed. Day after day. They left a positive impression on me. These are caring people. They reminded me of Mother Teresa. World needs more of them.