The Waleses don’t want to be in the same room as the Sussexes or spend Xmas with them

Page Six published a curious story on Thursday, all about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and their feelings towards the left-behind royals. According to Page Six’s sources, Prince Harry and Meghan obviously have zero plans to go to the UK over Christmas, but Harry is planning to “reach out” over the holiday. This will actually mark the FIFTH Christmas Harry has spent away from the UK and away from the Windsors. Harry became a father and said he wasn’t going to take the Windsors’ bullsh-t anymore. Except Page Six’s sources say that “Harry and Meghan’s new strategy is reconciliation,” and that Harry is particularly aware of “the shifting sands of time,” especially as his 40th birthday approaches next year (no one from his family contacted him for his birthday this year, but sure). In case you need me to spell it out, Page Six’s stories are coming from palace briefings, because it looks like Katie Nicholl at Vanity Fair got one too. Some highlights from her new piece:

The Susexes aren’t going to Sandringham: Despite rumors that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle hope to travel to the UK for the holidays, Vanity Fair has learned they will not be coming to England to join King Charles and the royal family for the festive season. According to one royal insider, there is “no chance” of Harry, Meghan, and their children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, being invited to join the royal family because there is still so much “hostility” toward them.

The Sussexes & Charles haven’t spoken since his birthday: Last month, Harry and Meghan spoke with King Charles for his 75th birthday, with Archie and Lilibet sweetly singing “Happy Birthday” to the monarch in a video recording, which led to speculation about the possibility of a reunion. Yet VF has learned there has been little communication between the Sussexes and the king since then.

Charles would love to have his family together, but not really: The source added that while King Charles “would love” to have all of his family together at Christmas he is “nervous” about inviting Harry and Meghan into the inner sanctum. “The king would love nothing more than to have Christmas with his sons and all his grandchildren, but it’s not that simple and there is no chance the Sussexes will be coming. It would make things very difficult because there is still so much hostility towards Harry and Meghan, particularly from the Prince and Princess of Wales,” they said. “Charles is also deeply nervous about the risks of conversations being leaked by the Sussex camp, which is why there have been very few of them.”

Royal racists: One source who recently spent time with senior members says, “The king finds these suggestions about racism extraordinary and frankly unbelievable. It is all so far removed from the truth and what was actually said.”

Will & Kate are bitter: Sources close to Prince William and Princess Kate say they would not want to be in the same room as Harry and Meghan “let alone spend Christmas with them.”

The Middletons are coming to Norfolk: In keeping with a tradition they started shortly after their wedding, William and Kate will enjoy Christmas day with the royal family, and then a second Christmas at Anmer Hall with the Middleton family.

A Very Camilla Christmas: And in a break with tradition, Queen Camilla’s children Tom Parker Bowles and Laura Lopes, along with their families, have been invited to join the royals this Christmas. In previous years, Camilla has left Sandringham after Christmas dinner to host her own family dinner at Ray Mill, her home in Wiltshire. Camilla is very close with her children and five grandchildren. Her sister Annabel Elliot, who serves as one of Camilla’s personal aides, will also attend the celebrations.

Charles isn’t going to Scotland for New Year’s: Charles, who is overseeing an extensive refurbishment of Sandringham’s gardens, will also stay in Norfolk for New Year’s Eve. Usually, the king welcomes the New Year in Scotland, but sources say he will extend his Norfolk break and head to the Highlands later in January.

[From Vanity Fair]

LOL, “the Sussexes won’t be here because we didn’t invite them, we hate them, they leak everything,” said the palace courtiers, openly briefing Katie F–king Nicholl. Nevermind the fact that the Sussexes have never, ever asked for a Sandringham invite in the past five years. As for Will and Kate being too immature, too childish to even be “in the same room” with Harry and Meghan… completely on-brand. William would throw a hissy fit and rage-shriek all the way to Norfolk if the Sussexes were invited. Well, at least he’ll get to spend Christmas with his grifter in-laws. I wonder if Carole will try to get some money out of him.

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  1. Dhianna says:

    I am sure that Harry and Meghan do not want to be in the same room as billy boy and his wife or spend christmas with them.

    • Megan says:

      This piece is so ridiculous. Charles is bragging about not inviting people who don’t want an invitation.

      • swaz says:

        This sounds like the exact same article I read last Christmas 🤣🤣🤣 are we going to get that every Christmas 🤣🤣🤣

      • StillDouchesOfCambridge says:

        This King doesnt know what dignity and embarrassment is: he keeps talking about how he’s not inviting people who THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS are 💯 NOT INTERESTED in being in his company or his racist family. CRINGE omg try to keep face at least

    • 1960tlm says:

      @Dhianna, EXACTLY! That is the real story. Harry & Meghan probably don’t want to be around those copycat losers ever again. If my Judas brother sold me to the wolves for 30 pieces of silver, I would have nothing to do with him either!

    • MoxyLady007 says:

      Very bold to assume William will go to the Middleton Christmas just because they say he will.

    • roooth says:

      Chuck, his ho, Willnot & Cannot display their Consciousness of Guilt with every thing they say and do. They know what they are.

  2. Tessa says:

    I would not want to be in the same room as the wails. Why would harry and Meghan want to bring their children to that dysfunction

  3. ThatsNotOkay says:

    William’s not going to Norfolk. Tell one lie, who’s gonna believe the rest?

  4. Scooby Gang says:

    Room shroom. H&M don’t want to be on the same CONTINENT as you.

  5. Lady Digby says:

    Once again deflection. No one is talking about W and K not wanting to be in the same room together at Christmas just more of endless hatred towards MH. WK are bitterly unhappy and that spilss out everywhere. Once again therapy is needed and marriage counselling.

  6. Jais says:

    Hmm. So again Charles finds the racism allegations unbelievable…for himself? or for himself and Kate? Bc the next part of the briefing is how the wales can’t even be in the same room as the Sussexes. BP is not gonna brief anything that makes the Wales look decent.

    • HT says:

      This reminds me of a recent meal I had when I was visting the UK, a Michelin starred place and everything. We were taken by the host past the convivial main dining room to a small, dark side room and basically forgotten about, with slow, often-absent service. Also in that room were two East Asian women, which I noted because, as an Asian woman myself, it seemed … odd .. that the main room was fully white while the side room was not. I wrote an email to the restaurant afterwards to tell them about my experience, and said the optics of the seating were not great. Got an email back from the chef saying he was shocked, SHOCKED, at my allegations because “our staff have gone through extensive diversity training.” Uh, OK, dude. Your staff can’t possibly be racist because … you took some workshops?

      • BeanieBean says:

        Oh, wow, I don’t know what to say. That’s terrible.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @HT, I’m am so very sorry and saddened that this happened to you. Being a biracial person myself ( mom half black, dad white) I have seen so much racism towards my mom & sister, because of their darker skin tones, compared to me (blond hair green eyes with no African features) & my dad. It’s heartbreaking. Especially when people say off things such as you don’t sound, look, or seem as if you are black? Really what does that mean? I pray someday we can all treat each other and be treated with respect no matter the ethnicity, gender or religion.

      • AC says:

        @ht one of my friends(who is Asian) was telling me that her parents and younger sister took a luxurious cruise line to Greece and Croatia. On one of the tours an older British couple told her younger sister that it was great they allowed the crew members to take time off from their duties on the ship. She gave that couple a big earful and that couple was embarrassed. Esp since her younger sister is a senior manager of Software development for one of the big techs(FAANG).

      • Izzy says:

        Honestly, you should write that up in a review of the restaurant, including their asinine response.

      • Myeh says:

        @HT I’m sorry you had to go through that and then have your complaint be disbelieved. Last year I was seated in the middle of a fancy restaurant and had my chair bumped right times by a white woman who turned out to be the manager. The first time she bumped my chair I stabbed myself in the mouth with my fork mid bite. I learned that complaining about it to my server led to their all white staff taking turns bumping my chair and finally getting shrieked at by the manager who yelled that I needed to leave because she felt I was accusing her of something she couldn’t possibly be. Never did I mention the word racist but sitting there dripping blood on their white napkins and tablecloth I was threatened with being trespassed and yelled at by everyone who worked on the floor. All the people sitting there eating looked annoyed that I existed in their all white space and should’ve gotten the memo that I don’t belong there. I thought about contacting the owner but I was so dejected that I just didn’t. I’ve complained over email or left a review online in the past for other similarly run establishments but their management has always countered by doubling down or insisting a dei type of workshop has made them absolutely incapable of being biased dbags.

  7. JT says:

    H&M were never going to the UK for Christmas. All of these articles are a joke. Like the only thing stopping the Sussexes was an invite. Please.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Agreed. Nothing has changed so there was no way they would have wanted to go to the UK for Christmas.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      @JT, for further clarification, the Sussexes were never HOPING for an invite to go to the UK for Christmas. These stories are madness. Yep, Meghan & Harry, are sitting in their beautiful Montecito home with 100,000 bathrooms, with fingers crossed, to be invited to a Sandringham WHITE elephant party, that no longer involves QE2, but a bunch of a@@holes.

      I’m pretty sure both H&M know family isn’t blood. Family is/are those that love you and make you feel warm about yourself. I would love a Figueras/Sussexes joint Christmas card. That would break the interwebs.

      Christmas in Montecito sounds way better than Christmas with nasty people over the pond.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Agreatreckoning, oh how I wish from your mouth to the ears of the Sussex’s and the Figueras to show case a joint Christmas card!!! I imagine the dogs would become unbearable across the pond that people would be screwing in the streets!!! They’re howling would run non-stop and so loud that that sissy Wales would lose his ever loving mind!!! Such a beautiful sight to see them all together with all of their beautiful and stunning children, gorgeous and stunning wives and husbands that could melt the ice caps with their slight sight of their hotness on display…….😋😋😋

        Imagine they could sell an entire calendar that features solely the men for charity with the whispers of “who were they were referring to as the most handsome petulant man child from our country….I know it’s on the tip of my tongue”!! They could call it The Brothers Los Padres aka the boys that belong to the unofficial Yummy with a spoon……😋😋😋

  8. Brassy Rebel says:

    Why would anyone want to travel thousands of miles to spend Christmas at stuffy Sandringham with a bunch of dullards when they could just stay home in beautiful Montecito with family and friends.? This narrative that Christmas at Sandringham is the most fun time ever is the most absurd narrative of all the absurd narratives.

    • Becks1 says:

      It’s because for royalists, including the RRs, the whole idea of “Christmas at Sandringham” has become the epitome of being part of the royal “inner sanctum” as this article puts it. Christmas at Sandringham sounds miserable; to royalists it sounds miserable but exclusive, and they can’t believe that H&M dont want to be a part of that. It’s just one more thing that H&M reject that the royalists/RRs/etc would give their eyeteeth to attend.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        I’m really bad at this royalist clout chasing because I would rather die than spend Christmas at Sandringham as I have heard it described. And how awful for the kids especially!

      • Becks1 says:

        @BrassyRebel I know! It sounds cold and miserable.

        Christmas spent in a gorgeous English mansion in the countryside? that could be beautiful and enjoyable. Christmas at Sandringham? Meh.

        But its one more thing that the RRs think H&M (especially Meghan) should be clamoring for, and instead they reject it. They want her to be groveling for any bit of royal…..anything….and instead she’s like, nah, I’m good in California. It really throws them for a loop, to put it mildly.

      • windyriver says:

        No reason for the shuffling off of the kids and other traditions to continue, especially if this is a P-B Christmas. C&C have done their best thus far to behave like QEII is a distant memory, wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if we start seeing articles about a new reign bringing new Christmas traditions, how warm and cozy everything is now (and the predictable pieces about how much that family in CA is missing by not being invited).

    • Proud Mary says:

      Apparently, even Fergie lamented the drudgery, boredom, and and stress of Xmas at Sandringham–5 clothing changes in one day??? while king sure not to conflict your color scheme with the Queen’s). No one seem to enjoy it; but let’s pretend that Harry, who spoke about returning from Afghanistan and being lodged there in the servant’s quarters, is just so sad about not subjecting his kids to being around his awful, racist family. (BTW, Monteceto is not the only place for a very Sussex Xmas—there’s Aspen, Co; Telluride, CO; Park City, Utah; Jackson, Wy, etc, for a lovely white Christmas (not the Kate Middleton kind).

      • MoxyLady007 says:

        From the mountains of Colorado – I can confirm this is true.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        So many places. The Grand Tetons, Jackson, WY. is amazing. As a recipient of beautiful pics of Jackson, WY Christmas, I too can confirm.

    • BeanieBean says:

      I would bet that every last blasted one of those Windsors would rather go to Santa Barbara for Christmas than Sandringham–go out to the beach after the prezzies have been opened & dinner eaten. Try out the new boogie boards. Play with the dogs.

    • Deering24 says:

      They really can not get over that Meghan wants no parts of royal life–and sure isn’t going to knock herself trying to get back to “nirvana.” They will never ever grok that their life isn’t not the perfect aspirational ideal that everyone hungers for. Whatta bunch of marroons…🤮

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        I, for one, would be more than happy to be invited to a “sad” Christmas at H&M’s beautiful estate. Beautiful & well seasoned food, fun games and kids laughing in delight. No scales or scabby relatives.

    • Shoesies says:

      I would not ever look forward to being with a bunch of racists who want to weigh me like cattle after eating. These some flipping messed up demons.

  9. NotTheOne says:

    Got to imagine that Harry is missing his family – the one he wishes he had. Not the one who threw him and his family out.

    • MsIam says:

      I think he has that family now, so no need to pine away for an imaginary one. He gets to be the father he wishes he had growing up. I think that is part of the animosity towards him, especially from William. I imagine living in a home where the parents hate each other was quite traumatizing for him and William. Especially if one of the parents is distant like Charles.

      • 1960tlm says:

        And can you imagine being around Camilla at Christmas? Just the thought of seeing her eat, shoveling food down her throat, making a complete mess, crumbs all over her mouth, sitting with her legs open, stomping around like a horse, smoking like a chimney, and putting up with those Yeti children of hers that are probably Charles’ Yeti offspring. It’s all too much & makes me want to puke!

      • Minnieder says:

        Yeti children 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  10. Jay says:

    Yawn. This is all part of the rota’s typical four stages of grief about the Sussexit.

    There’s denial: “The Sussexes wish they were invited to the UK!” Anger: “”They had better not be invited to the UK!” Bargaining “If they were to ask for an invite, the royal family should snub them! Depression: They’re really not coming back – why don’t they want to come back?

    And then instead of moving on to “acceptance” they just jump right back in to denial and repeat. It’s getting thin though, right? Like even the reliably outraged tabloid readers must have started to wonder why they are seeing the same thing for almost five years.

    • ML says:

      I love your “Four Stages of Grief” description, Jay!
      Yes, this is wearing thin, because it’s the same Christmas story about the Sussexes not coming as the past few years. Dusted off, regurgitated and fluffed up again.

    • Chantal1 says:

      @Jay. Lol! Your “rota four stages of grief about Sussexit” is perfection!

      Also, there is something seriously wrong with all of the RRs.

    • Blithe says:

      @Jay, that’s brilliant! Very apt — and Very funny! lol

    • Christine says:

      Jay, this is perfection!

    • Deering24 says:

      Bravo, Jay! 🤣😂 And the rota are the working definition of insanity. They can never break out of that loop, because they’d have to face the truth that they are supporting a dying, ridiculous, stifling system. Shutter Island, indeed…

      • Christine says:

        They know the truth, Harry is never coming back. They just won’t say it out loud, because that will demolish all of the articles they spew from their mouths, multiple times a day.

        If only they hadn’t been utter assholes….

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Applause, applause @Jay. This. The BM/sycophants will spew this same stuff out forever. *chefs kiss*

  11. SussexWatcher says:

    The royals and their rota rat mouthpieces need a serious intervention. They sound delusional. Literally. How many times and how many ways have Harry and Meghan said goodbye, nope, peace out, we’ll see you never, don’t call us we won’t call you, it’s not us it’s you, we’re never ever ever getting back together??? And still these people write these stupid articles for their stupid racist readers who still believe this nonsense and come out the other side foaming at the mouth about the Sussexes. They are seriously unhinged and disconnected from reality.

    Harry and Meghan rejected you and all the trappings of that life. Where’s Cher with a ‘snap out of it’ slap when you need her?!

  12. Dee(2) says:

    Harry and Meghan have been gone for four years and so clearly don’t want to come back for that type of nonsense. Harry just wants his family to be safe in his country of birth. So making it seem like they still want or need things from that family it’s all that they have left to still feel superior. So we’re going to see these type of stories basically forever I’ve come to accept. I don’t think they will ever get to the point where they acknowledge Harry and Meghan are happier and more successful away than they were in, so it’ll be we hate them so much, everyone does and we’re always talking about them even when no one mentions them because they’re the losers!! Right? Right?!!!

    • Robert Phillips says:

      I’m hoping that after Harry gets done with all the Ravec stuff. It will mean he by himself can go back to England. Not to see his family. But his friends. Would love for him in a few years to be spotted around England doing things. And his family not even know until the tabloids report it.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      I think, sadly, you’re right that we’ll see these stories forever because Harry and Meghan sell. The rota rats know that the funeral four are as stale and boring as 3 day old instant oatmeal and the only way to get more clicks is by recycling Sussex stories.

      You’d think though, that the sheer hubris of Chuckles and Pegs would demand the stories be about them and only them (thinking that they should be able to sell papers on their own). I guess they’re also too wrapped up in their own Harry and Meghan obsession to keep the Sussex names out of their mouths but you’d think at some point shit-dad and his shit-heir would want the attention.

  13. Harper says:

    Kate doesn’t even want to be at Sandringham for Christmas, especially with Camilla’s family there side-eyeing her. Plus, now the Wales children will have to officially mix with Camilla’s grandkids–did Kate get a chance to vet them? It’s a Parker-Bowles Christmas and I love that for the Wales. As for William, I predict extensive, long walks for fresh air on Christmas.

    • Chrissy says:

      I wonder if Camilla’s ex will be there as well.

      • Tessa says:

        I read Andrew Parker Bowles has a lady friend he is serious about.. He probably will come and bring her as a date it would not surprise me.

    • Shoesies says:

      It would not surprise me either those perverted beasts.

      Someone should do DNA tests on Laura as her nose is totally different from the Rottweiler, her supposed father, and her brother. I have always thought Laura is the girl Tampon always wanted.

  14. equality says:

    Well, let W&K enjoy spending the time with the P-B family. Wonder if Andrew is invited too. Maybe they will walk with them to church to prove what a “blended” family they are and how they all get along. KC can walk in as the unforgiving, nasty, racist jerk head of the COE that he is. What a good look.

  15. Valar Dohaeris says:

    “According to one royal insider, there is “no chance” of Harry, Meghan, and their children, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, being invited to join the royal family because there is still so much “hostility” toward them.”

    So they admit there’s hostility towards the children?

    • Tessa says:

      It seems to me they don’t like Archie and Lily. Charles has made no effort to see them and he is cold as ice.

    • Snuffles says:

      Of course. Their existence has done two things, anchored Harry to California and his new life. And secondly, “sullied” their pure white gene pool.

    • 1960tlm says:

      @Valar Dohaeris, so they admit to hostility towards two innocent children? Who are direct heirs to the King? I wonder what could possibly cause hostility towards children? Ummm…racism? Yes that’s it, racism!

  16. Amy Bee says:

    It’s clear that some stories about Harry and Meghan are given to the Page Six by the Sun perhaps with the mistaken belief that they would be more believable in Murdoch’s NY tabloid rather his London one. It was clear that Roya Nikkhah was either talking to a newspaper editor or a royal aide and not anybody close to Harry and Meghan. I would think nobody from Harry’s team would be talking to Roya after she lied about him being invited to Charles’ party. Much was made of Harry’s phone call but I believe that he was asked by the Palace to call Charles for his birthday and nothing has changed between them.

    • equality says:

      I would say you are right. I bet KC even has someone who schedules his phone calls and you can’t just spontaneously call him up.

    • Jais says:

      What’s interesting to me is that BP seems to be leaking to page 6 and then in the uk claiming that it is the Sussexes who are the ones leaking to page 6. A convenient loop.

    • bisynaptic says:

      Yes, I’m wondering about that phone call. They want to make it part of the Sussex canon, but I have doubts it happened—at least, the way they reported it.

  17. Lady Esther says:

    Let me get this right: So and so doesn’t want to talk to so and so, you’ve got hairy in-laws, dodgy uncles, kids having to be shuttled between houses and too much food and booze? So relatable for the holidays…tell me again why are these guys considered Royal and above everything? Because it sounds like I could do a Sandringham Christmas for free right at my own house!

  18. Ocean Girl says:

    I feel sorry for Harry because it has to hurt to realize that you lost your family because they *are* that bad. He has probably known that for years, seeing how his mother was treated–and, I’d bet, how she was talked about after her death.

    The worst thing about it, to me, is Harry and Meghan didn’t ask to be treated like this. Leaving and staying away has been a protective measure.

  19. Kittenmom says:

    I must admit that I would pay $$$$$ to see a picture of Waity trying (and failing) to appear gracious to the Sussexes on the walk to church, of all places. I can just imagine the murder eyes and the threatening stances! But H&M would never subject their kids to that nasty, toxic environment.

    • Becks1 says:

      I dont even think she would try. I think she has decided being publicly rude to Meghan is a winning strategy for her.

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate was a rude bitch during the funeral events where normally people act decently. But she can’t do that with Meghan present so she would be even worse during an informal Christmas walkabout.

    • Jais says:

      Honestly, if they ever do want to get rid of Kate, it’s not a bad strategy. She cannot help herself from acting rude as hell around Megan so it would just be further photographic evidence that she is not a kind person. Evidence that can be used at any point if necessary.

  20. Lulu says:

    They have been outed by their now press as racists and selling Sussex’s stories so they go on the offensive. Easy enough as they are naturally offensive.

  21. SarahCS says:

    I just hope someone on the staff knows to count the silverware before and after CarolE visits.

    • Kittenmom says:

      Yes, and make sure there are no expensive family jewels lying around.

    • Unblinkered says:

      Silverware, family jewels, loo rolls, wine and spirits. Everything needs nailing down.
      And that no attempt is made to syphon petrol from any of the royal cars – or the staff cars

  22. hazel says:

    fairly for certain once william pushed harry and harry called him “alarmingly bald” and painted him as an oaf that these brothers would never be in the same room again. also why extend an invitation when you know the other party won’t accept. there’s no way meg will go back to UK.

    • bianca says:

      “alarmingly bald” is such a great line. man…harry was out for blood.

      • ChattyKat says:

        so good. harry slapping the crap outta his abusive, good for nothing, waste of space brother. go harry!

    • Riley says:

      this line also made me realize he didn’t love his brother anymore. to humiliate him in such a petty way and immortalize it. there’s no going back.

      • sparrow says:

        Yeah. I really didn’t like that line of attack in the book. It belittled both of them and actually made me feel sorry for William.

      • Jais says:

        So I’m not sure I would say that it showed he didn’t love his brother anymore. But it showed how much he was hurt by him and deeply disliked who’d he’d become and the actions he’d taken. It was so supremely petty for Harry to call out his baldness. Supremely petty. And sure Harry could’ve taken a higher road, but at the end of the day, calling his brother bald, when he is clearly bald, is nothing compared to planting stories in the press and providing evidence to help a tabloid against his brother’s wife. Those actions are unconscionable. So yeah Harry was petty but really it was a tiny dig in comparison to all the damage William had done. What William was doing could’ve gotten Harry and his whole family killed by manufacturing hate against the sussex family.

      • Square2 says:

        I don’t think that line re: Will boldness was Harry being petty. I think it’s more likely because he was always blinded by his love for William, he never really looked at him. That day, his eyes were finally opened & he saw the real Will. Besides, Harry also made fun of his own lacking of hair. He called his progressing to boldness “doom” during the IG in Hague.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Uhhmmm, Bullyiam assaulting Harry in Nott Cott has nothing to do with Harry’s comments in Spare, re: baldness. The actual comment is ‘his alarming baldness, more advanced than my own: his famous resemblance to Mummy, which was fading with time’. No lies detected. It’s in the prologue of SPARE. Agree @Square2, Harry saw who William is and not the person Harry thought William was.imo page 6 of SPARE. It may have been Harry’s final reckoning that his brother was never on his side. Ever. Harry still gave them grace to be decent people. Being ‘decent people’ isn’t a thing for the BRF.

  23. LRB says:

    Sandringham is old and I bet the heating system is pretty cranky, The concept of being weighed before and after Christmas dinner is bizarre at best, the frostiness of Will and Kate is hardly appealing… so why not stay in lovely sunny Cali surrounded by friends and Doria, and enjoy the good spirit of the season. That said it must be hard for Harry having no family with him, it would be nice if the Eugenie family could go , but no doubt they will be keeping their bread buttered in Norfolk.

    • equality says:

      The big factor to a parent would be the children being shuffled off to a nursery somewhere while the adults celebrate.

      • Anna says:

        Yes!!! This is child abuse. This wouls not be a factor for me, this would be a deal breaker. A 2h dinner for adults only – ok, but whole christmas nasilały separated from my babies? And St Catherine Arly Yaaaas expert was keenly onboard?

      • 1960tlm says:

        @Equality, that would be a Serious No Way for Meghan. Anything could happen to those children without Harry & Meghan keeping a watchful eye.

  24. Cessily says:

    Every time I see these articles the nasty little spoiled girl from Willy Wonka comes to mind, it is truly pathetic that these articles are about a middle aged couple raising three children.

  25. Dora says:

    You know. You would think that Harry and Meghan called up and asked to spend Christmas with t that group of inbred racist the way they keep briefing their PR tabloids. They should wait until they’re asked. Harry and Meghan seem pretty comfortable away from the stress, smears, lies and bullying that accompanies that greedy lazy family. Kate is jealous of Meghan because despite everything she copies she still feels inadequate, and William is jealous because harry married the kind of women he thought he would marry, instead he married the only one who would have him. If harry and Meghan are so unimportant why do the tabloid follow everything they do. They don’t have to. They aren’t working royals any more so what the interest. Just leave them alone. Sure you more, they’re not important any more since they left the cosplay kingdom.

  26. sparrow says:

    All the vile press on this issue comes only from W&K. There is nothing like this level of hate leaked or given the green light from M&H, ever. So, let William and Kate douse their Christmas pudding in liquid envy and enjoy!

  27. Laura D says:

    I’m surprised William doesn’t tell the public these things when he’s out and about on royal engagements. Oh that’s right he doesn’t do that many! I’ve long since concluded that when these little gems are dropped to the RR it’s to give the impression that he’s actually doing some work. When in fact he’s probably off gallivanting somewhere having a jolly good time with friends.

  28. Murphy says:

    The dead give away that this not from Team Sussex is they refer to Kate as “Princess Kate”.

  29. Eurydice says:

    It seems the royal family’s PR plan is to release at least one article a day to remind everyone how stupid they are.

  30. QuiteContrary says:

    “The king finds these suggestions about racism extraordinary and frankly unbelievable. It is all so far removed from the truth and what was actually said.”

    Racists rarely understand why they are accused of being racist. It’s what makes them so stubbornly racist.

    • MsIam says:

      So true! They always seem shocked that you understood exactly what they meant. I guess this is what Harry meant by “unconscious bias”. The problem is, once its been pointed out you are supposed to do better. Instead these folks doubled down.

    • kirk says:

      Poor misunderstood Chuck. There’s nothing wrong with calling his polo buddy Sooty in 2009 – because truthfully his dark skin looked like soot! Supposedly “Sooty” even defended Chuck da T’ird, saying it wasn’t prejudice because calling somebody Sooty was a term of affection. We can’t know whether “Sooty” might feel differently today, or if he later questioned whether he internalized Brit superiority based on skin color as he died in January 2023.

  31. The Duchess says:

    Whilst Good King Harry wins in the high court, providing justice and setting a precedent for all those wronged by the nasty British establishment, the WanK’s are still complaining and explaining about everything. Harry & Meghan aren’t thinking about your poor little souls. They are living their lives in the Californian sun, whilst carrying on the good fight.

    It’s quite comical how the WanK’s keep on briefing about how much they hate the Sussexes. Christmas should be a time of joy, celebration and togetherness. Instead, they spend it drowning in their own self-hatred and bitterness. No wonder those kids look so sad all the time. Bless their hearts.

    • 1960tlm says:

      @The Dutchess, you are so right. I feel so sorry for the children. The parents can’t stand each other, grandfather & papa hate each other. Both Wicked Witch step grandmother, and copycat mother hate everyone, and they are learning to hate distant family members for no reason at all except pure jealousy. What are these kids going to be like when they are adults? Their lives are filled with privilege, but also filled with so much hate, anger & jealousy and there’s nothing they can do to stop it because they are only children. I hope that Carole Middleton is watching over her grandchildren. She might be a lush & grifter, but she can still be a good grandmother.
      I pray God protects them from all of this evilness.

      • Christine says:

        I’m sure Carole is already busy reading the report cards of little girls, narrowing down her list of who she should toss in George’s direction. Because you know that’s coming.

      • Deering24 says:

        Carole was a dreadful mother, so her being anything but a dreadful
        grandmother . . . well, the odds ain’t good. Someone apparently so totally driven by status and money has very little room for much else.

  32. MsIam says:

    Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. I wish they would just go off to Sandringham and leave Harry and everyone else alone, since its supposed to be such a good time. But isn’t it weird that Chuck and Cam have been married almost twenty years and this is the first time her family has been invited for Christmas? I guess when the Queen was alive she said no to that! And yet she supposedly approved of Camilla being called “Queen Consort” ? Chuck must have definitely twisted her arm to get that done.

  33. JaneS says:

    Can’t they just shut up?
    Why make this comment at all.

    I went close to 30 years without speaking to 2 of my brothers. No contact between any of us.
    Constantly had others “Why? What happened? You need to make up. Family.”
    #1. None of your business.
    #2. Family is people who show love, care, concern for you. Not threatening you with violence, repeatedly demanding money for years, and lying about you to everyone behind your back.

    The Firm needs to Move Forward and start giving the tax paying public proof that they are working and useful, in order to stay in biz.
    But, it is easy to keep bitching about Harry vs. Work.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      JaneS, and for some reason they can’t see that these type of stories reflect poorly on them, not the Sussexes. Is there anyone anywhere who really believe the Sussexes want to be there for Christmas? I doubt it. This story just sounds like a toddler finding out that he couldn’t get a toy, so he tells the world that he didn’t want it anyway. If this is how you want the world to view you …

  34. Beverley says:

    The Wales are so aspirational. They show the rest of us how NOT to behave.

  35. Lala11_7 says:

    Christmas 🎄 with the British Royals ALWAYS seems like a soggy cold experiment in psycho-terror…so I find these H&M stories HILARIOUS 😂…

  36. Kreama says:

    “Inner sanctum”… lol. As if.

  37. Jaded says:

    Because they don’t act like adults; they act like petulant, lying, back-stabbing, temperamental toddlers and they deserve every demeaning name we give them.

  38. Nadia says:

    I’m sure the feeling is mutual in the Sussex camp. Why are the Waleses acting like the victims here?

  39. Lady Digby says:

    All this because Billy Idle and wifey didn’t get Easter eggs that time??? All this spite at Christmas is so aging darlings, get over oneself please!

  40. Saucy&Sassy says:

    “The king finds these suggestions about racism extraordinary and frankly unbelievable. It is all so far removed from the truth and what was actually said.”

    It’s interesting that the palace leaked about the letter KFC wrote to Meghan and that she wrote back. Meghan, through her spokesperson, made it clear she didn’t leak anything.

    It’s interesting that P!ss Morgan named two ‘royal racists’. If he hadn’t done so, the news wouldn’t have been what it was. The Dutch publisher grabbed those books back to publish without the names. There still would have been some talk, but nothing at the level it became in the UK.

    It must have been Murdoch who gave the go ahead for P!ss to name them on TV. I’ve suspected for a while now that the tabloid media wants the Monarchy to go away and are helping toward that end in any way they can.

    • Laura D says:

      @Saucy&Sassy – Until Meghan came on to the scene it was often alleged that Murdoch was an anti-monarchist. There were all sorts of rumours flying around that he had several damaging stories about members of the BRF. It was said he wouldn’t publish them while QEII was alive because of her popularity. As I said this was a long time ago and since then Camilla, William, Kate and the Middletons have fed his journalists all manner of stories which have helped his circulation figures and online hits. My guess is there is currently a fragile truce in place whereby the BRF does what he says or he’ll publish and be damned!

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Laura D, thank you for filling in the blanks for me. If this is true, doesn’t that give Murdoch the upper hand? As long as the brf can give stories that get clicks it will continue on as is. If the leaks don’t get the clicks, things could turn on a dime. We know that the left behinds are not interesting. If there is an announcement of a separation and later a divorce, that will help immensely. How long can that be used until the beast needs to be fed again. I LOVE this for the brf.

      • Lady D says:

        So if Murdoch wanted the Sussex’s in England, they would be there?

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Lady D, that’s the problem Lady D. There is no one who can MAKE the Sussex go to the UK unless they choose to do so. I’m thinking there is going to be a lot more leaking about members of the brf to feed the beast. The question I have is: How far will they go?

  41. Monica Bilongame says:

    I’ve been to Sandringham. The rooms are not big and it’s full of very old furniture (some dating back to Q Victoria!). They never every throw anything away. There’s a room/corridor which is full of nothing but glass-fronted gun cabinets with the names who who the shotguns belonged to, and elsewhere loads of display cabinets with collections of old china and ornaments; massive pictures taking up most of a wall etc. It’s not comfortable to be in and it’s pretty much all ‘show’.

    The kids won’t be allowed to eat with the adults so they will have their meals in the nursery (along with the nannies), and if they all gather round the piano to listen to KKKate play and sing carols they’ll be so cramped they’ll probably all get Covid!

    I’ve also walked from there to the church (like the royals do so the serfs and peasants can stand and gawk at them – why would you want to buff up their egos any more?!

    H&M are going to be far more comfortable and warm and relaxed in their own place than cooped up at Sandringham.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Monica Bilongame, I wonder if the furniture is crown estate property or if it is privately owned by the brf?

      Well, you’ve given us a very good idea of what the Sandringham rooms are like–who wants to be there?

      • Thena says:

        Sandringham is privately owned by Charles, passed down from his mother, who inherited it from her father, going back to Edward VII, who purchased it during his mother’s reign (so yes, everything is Victorian). I’m pretty sure the contents are also privately owned by Charles.

    • Deering24 says:

      Monica Bilongame–yes, it’s amazing how essentially cold and unlivable a lot of “great houses” are. “… a tomb for its inhabitants and a monument to their ambitions” pretty much sums it up.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/movies/15dahl.html

      Newport, Rhode Island is one of my favorite places, and it’s easy to gauge which mansion owners wanted a home–and which ones wanted a showplace. For example, Vanderbilt daughter Consuelo had one small bedroom, with no privacy whatsoever. But the boys got big rooms–and the rest of the house is pretty much a display of family possessions–and crazy excess. That Sandringham is mostly a time capsule/morgue is no surprise whatsoever.

  42. Pennchi says:

    Look, I adore Harry but if my siblings aired all our dirty laundry on Facebook or something, I wouldn’t call them on their birthday either. Granted, his family was talking smack about him behind his back, but still…

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Pennchi, there’s a difference between lying about someone and telling the truth. There is a lot of crap that has been and continues to be leaked from the palaces to the press. How much coming from the palace is true? Harry has told us what happened to him in Spare. He lived it and I believe it.

      Maybe you should apply your standard to all of the leaks that continue to come from the palaces. Would you call that talking ‘smack’?

    • Jais says:

      By the same token, if before I ever said a word publicly about my family, they had already planted stories in the tabloids about me in order to make themselves look better and get better press, I’d be at a real loss. What to do? All this hate and negativity targeted towards my family? What am
      I supposed to do? Stay silent and let myself and my children be crucified? “Airing out the dirty laundry,” otherwise known as simply telling the truth, would be an absolutely fair and understandable reaction to lies being told about me by my family in public. If they didn’t want their dirty laundry aired then they sure as hell shouldn’t have been selling Harry out to the press for their own benefit. And that’s what they did. We all know that’s what they did. Not calling that family member on their birthday isn’t bc they aired dirty laundry but bc of their own disgustingly guilty actions that precipitated the necessary airing of dirt.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate in front of cameras at the walkabout glared at and took threatening steps to Meghan. She and William in front of cameras snubbed harry and Meghan. Kate did not deny the crying story so Meghan set the record straight. Charles pulled their security when they were in Canada. If Harry’s relatives In the UK had not pulled these stunts there would have been no need to set the record straight.

    • Jaded says:

      @Pennchi — the smearing and briefing against Meghan and Harry wasn’t just some tittle-tattle behind their backs, it escalated into criminal hacking and, eventually, extreme harassment and threats against their lives. The BRF actively colluded with the tabloids to break them. That’s a whole lotta difference between family members simply squabbling.

  43. kelleybelle says:

    Who would want to be in the same room as these snooty twats anyway?

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Kelleybelle, I was thinking the same thing. They don’t sound like the type of people to have warmth, love and laughter at Christmas.

  44. Kat says:

    And they will all trot off to church as usual . Right pair of hypocrites those two are.