Tomorrow, Tuesday the 29th, is the two-week anniversary of the Princess of Wales’s mysterious and “planned” abdominal surgery. We don’t know when Kate checked into the hospital and no one has seen her at all since Christmas Day, when she was photographed at Sandringham. As Queen Camilla’s repeated visits to the London Clinic have shown in the past three days, photographers and press were still waiting outside the clinic and hoping to get a glance of Prince William visiting his wife, or Carole and Michael Middleton visiting their daughter. It genuinely appeared as if William only visited Kate one time, on the 18th. And now Kate has apparently been moved from the London Clinic to Adelaide Cottage thirteen days after her surgery, and no one got any photos. Kensington Palace released this statement:
The Princess of Wales has returned home to Windsor to continue her recovery from surgery. She is making good progress.
The Prince and Princess wish to say a huge thank you to the entire team at The London Clinic, especially the dedicated nursing staff, for the care they have provided.
The Wales family continues to be grateful for the well wishes they have received from around the world.
[Via KP]
KP provided the timeline of Kate needing “ten to fourteen days” in the hospital, then months of recuperation at home. The lack of briefings and lack of disclosures has led to rampant speculation, none of which will end any time soon in this information vacuum. Just this weekend, Spanish outlets were openly speculating that Kate’s situation was dire. The British media isn’t touching any of that – there’s clearly a palace-enforced embargo on speculation, even if they would only be repeating what’s being said in the European press. In any case, this is starting to get very creepy and I’m genuinely worried about Kate and how little we know about her condition. KP still isn’t saying that Kate will make a full recovery, just that she’s “making good progress.”
A statement from Kensington Palace pic.twitter.com/DW6BOHuuRJ
— The Prince and Princess of Wales (@KensingtonRoyal) January 29, 2024
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And no one saw her leave the hospital!? Did they put her in a windowless ambulance? Did they drive without a royal convoy as to not draw attention to the press? Did they leave in the dead of night? I find it hard to believe no one saw ANYTHING.
They need to stop shucking and jiving and tell the public what’s really going on with Kate. They’ve lied so much that nobody knows what to believe any more.
It’s especially weird because given all of the pics of Camilla the last few days we know that there was press stationed outside of that hospital. Even if they didn’t get pics It’s odd that it seems no one in the press knew she’d left until this statement was made. So you’re telling me Becky from the Fail has sources informing her that Charles visited Kate but she no sources to inform her that Kate was out of the hospital? I doubt it
Maybe on one of those visits, Camilla, smuggled Kate out in the trunk of her car!
That’s exactly why they had to announce that Kate “has returned home” – because Camilla showing up every five seconds at that clinic was making Will look absolutely terrible and raising genuine questions about where the f*ck he is and why seemingly nobody is visiting Kate. So now, magically, poof! Kate’s not actually there anymore so no reason to keep reporting about her lack of visitors, move along!
Boozehound Cam brought in a bar trolley to visit Chuck/smuggle out Kate and no one thought anything of it.
Anyone else notice how Becky, and Dicky Arbiter, and Omid Scobie (among many others) pulled down the Kensington notice for a time yesterday? AFAIK only Dickie reposted later. Was the notice altered from the original?
It was widely noted on Twitter that the BP notice was dated and the KP notice, also on palace letterhead, was not. Possibly significant? Or just another instance of KP courtiers’ basic incompetence at doing the smallest part of their jobs?
Proof of life photos are necessary now. This is getting too sketchy.
But can that move even be trusted? Who’s to say they won’t post a picture of her at home from a year+ ago and claim it’s a contemporaneous shot?
So interesting. I was watching a 90s scene in something where a newspaper was used as “proof of life” and I laughed so hard with my SO about that. A 5 year old could ‘shop that at this point, and we’ve just leveled up with Ai and deepfakes.
my money’s on more shutterstock nonsense, older photos of her (they’re going for a lot of much younger photos of her, which seems to be A Choice – not sure what their game is there)… and eventually I think they’ll just go straight up AI. They probably would have done already but palace courtiers are probably too thick to figure out how to run the software. They can barely operate MS Word with auto-insert dates in their “announcements”.
There is film of a car leaving the hospital with Kate’s personal asssistant Natasha Archer in the driving seat followed by a second larger car with blacked out passenger windows. There will no doubt be paparazzi film too.
Is that the one that’s been making the rounds on X? I’ve seen that for a few days now, so if it is from when she left, then she left Friday or Saturday.
Becks1, when Charles and camilla visited her? On Friday? Why their favorite reporter didn’t mention it? That she was going to be released? I don’t believe any of this…she was never there and I’m sure that she’s not in windsor either
One of the locals near the hospital stated on Twitter that there is a residents group and they comment every time a royal convoy shows up because they are fairly obvious.
They said there was a convoy on Saturday which they thought was Camilla but she arrived later in the day. It’s probably the same one caught on film with Archer.
I have my doubts about the Dec 28th convoy now. After a reply to Becks1 a couple of days ago, I spent way too long researching it. I replied late Saturday to a Friday thread, but I doubt anyone saw it.
Essentially, here’s what I found about the Dec 28th convoy – the original tweet was someone claiming he got the video and photos from someone else. He was the one who speculated it was the royals – coming from Sandringham – and said it was on the way to King Edward VII’s hospital. The guy has posted rampant misinformation before. So we don’t really know when the convoy was or where it was really going or where it was really coming from.
After wondering if it was instead going to The London Clinic, I spent way too much time comparing the intersection in the tweet to street views and aerial views of London in the general area of both the two hospitals and the greater Marylebone area in general. I found the convoy was heading south on A4201, and turned west onto New Cavendish St. The intersection matches with the video and pictures perfectly.
I then used Google maps and directions to figure out any place the royals could have come from to take that particular intersection in that particular way, to go to either the London Clinic OR King Edward VII’s Hospital. I’ve come up completely blank.
HOWEVER, according to the all-knowing Google, there is a consulate and an embassy on A4201 in that stretch of road leading to the intersection, and it’s not a stretch to imagine a convoy leading an ambassador, diplomat, or dignitary somewhere, that may or may not have been a hospital. I do not, however, live in London, so I will ask the London CBers – what do you think?
But really, all this does is make a secretive and convoluted guessing game about K even more secretive and convoluted. Was she ever at London Clinic? If not, then why did KC3/Side Piece play along and announce in the press that they visited K? If she was, when did she really leave? Where is she really at the moment? Why are KP still not saying she will fully recover? (And how is KP so, so bad at this?)
If it was her, she’s well enough for a car ride. Apparently she’d been in induced coma for an undisclosed period of time (I’d say KP issued their first briefing after she got out of coma). So, she’s made remarkable progress indeed.
Long time reader, first time commenting. Anyone else think she got plastic surgery? Like light nips and tucks? And when she gets better she will look “refreshed”?
I say a full on face lift. That leaves the face so bruised and swollen. She has been looking old and ragged lately, even with the wiglets.
No. She was in the hospital for 14 days. That is not what happens with plastic surgery.
No…her work schedule always has huge gaps where she isn’t seen, they could have easily scheduled this kind of work without anyone knowing. It wouldn’t make sense at all to do it this way.
Keen has disappeared for weeks/months before to go have plastic surgery and KP haven’t said a word. Why would they do all this if she’s having a simple tummy tuck or face lift? It’s evident something bad has happened, which has resulted in her being incapacitated for a few months (that’s if she makes the recovery she’s expected to make, which KP still hasn’t stated she will).
It’s clear KP was never expecting the backlash they’re getting for this.
If she had any surgery on her face she has to look kind of bad still. How are they going to keep the kids away from her? And how are they going to stop the kids from talking at school at telling their friends?
She has had work done over the years and it is usually done over the summer where there is the extra long break. She wouldn’t plan anything this time of the year because she can’t just disappear for months without issue right now. But after Wimbledon she is often not seen until end of September.
Nope. There is too much scrutiny on her now, she could have done it on one of her breaks with less focus.
My guess its mental health related.
A full face lift, with neck and eyes does not make a person look hellish post surgery anymore. My mother’s procedures took 6 hours, and within 48 hours she looked pretty normal. She was shopping within a week, and seeing friends within ten days. Plus she was 70 at the time.
I do think Kkkhatie had some sort of abdominal surgery, since that is pretty debilitating, and would require many weeks of recovery time.
I read she got a dna testing and got a hysterectomy following the results. presume she’s would get aaaaaallllllll the plastic surgeries at the same time and then it could be reported that she looks totally refreshed from her hospital stay. But personally the timeline and the nonsense if so whack, that my guess is that there is dark heavy drama/mental illness/camilla being a speaker for women against violence trolling william, I think Kate has pulled a Charlene: she is out somewhere in another country getting treatment and will be pulling a Melania by discussing a better contract for herself, for her imminent separation with her eggplant prince william.
She could literally just book plastic surgery whenever, disappear, and no one would be the wiser. The fact that any procedure was announced leads me to believe that if it’s not cancer, it wasn’t really planned, and there’s a reason she’s being hidden from cameras and none of it really bodes well for her.
As someone with a genetic mutation, I can tell you that when I have discussed my upcoming partial hysterectomy (in 4.5 years), the amount of time that would be spent in the hospital was considerably less.
They have changed the recommendations here in the United States – it used to be a full hysterectomy and given my family history, also a double mastectomy.
Then I carry on with my colonoscopies, upper endoscopies, and still need mammograms (because of the breast tissue that can extend to the armpits).
The current recommendation for me is partial hysterectomy at 45, mammogram annually, breast MRI annually – those two six months apart, colonoscopy and upper endoscopy, vaginal ultrasounds annually.
My next breast MRI is in 7 days! That is the one I worry about the most.
But again, none of those things require that much time inpatient. I think just an overnight stay but maybe 3 days.
Nah – I don’t think it’s a face lift.
I do think it’s something to do with an ED and a related mental health issue. But what do I know?
My mom is an OR nurse for a plastic surgeon. All patients go home immediately after recovery, if stable. If not stable, they go to an ER. An ambulatory surgery center (ASC) is not equipped to take care of patients overnight. You are meant to get in and GTFO and recover at home. Come in during office hours for drain removal, post-op check, etc.
Every elite plastic surgeon has their own (or shares) an ASC because they generally only do surgery 1-2 days weekly. My mom works one day/week, but the office staff is there 5 days.
You think the future Queen Mum is going to roll into a huge London hospital for a facelift? NO WAY.
My theory is that Kate required intestinal surgery for Crohn’s or Ulcerative Colitis. Her low weight and her haggard looks in the last few years point to one of those autoimmune commissions, IMO.
If she suffered an accident or DV that required reconstructive surgery to the face, ie, smashed jaw or orbitals etc, that would take more initial support & longer recovery than a nip & tuck to the face. A jaw reconstruction would require longer hospitalization b/c you’re dealing w/ feeding tube and jaw immobilization (used to be wired shut, not sure what they do these days).
I do wonder if there’s a facial element to it b/c you know how the tabloids like to use pictures to do their talking for them, when they’re embargoed from saying aught about the Royals? They’ve been posting numerous photos of Kate from the early days of her marriage since Camilla started visiting Chuck. Very unusual. Pictures of Kate looking “fresh and young”. It’s happening across many Brit media outlets, and it seems to be coordinated – but whether it’s a swipe by the tabs or ordered by the palaces seems unclear.
No one saw her arrive and no one saw her leave. The KP mysteries have gotten massive media attention, everything that K demands. She is the centre of attention by her own creation.
Also no any updates from middletons. James nor pippa said nothing on their insta account????? 100% it is a lie. And cowdung is playing well here. Very soon she will leak the story i hope. And uncle gray is another game by carol.
People are worried about kate as she wasn’t seen. But i assume that carol hid her somewhere else and intimidating peg.
In fact, it’s only on celebitchy that people are asking about her well being. Nobody cares about her. Reddit for example only has derangers talking about M and H as well as (but only a little) Chucky. It’s not funny how much of a non-entity she had become. Guess it’s karma.
I wish the BRF, RR and the BP would abide in their “NO Speculation” rule, when it comes to the Sussexes.
So did Chuckles visit an empty hospital bed? Because if she was there this weekend, someone would have seen her leave because of all the security. That definitely tells me she was never there.
I think they were lying about the visits on 18th w/ W and the one C did just before his procedure. The whole time it’s been giving “we gotta make sh-t look normal so no one suspects”. The only concrete sightings are supposedly the hospital flit from Sandringham to a completely different hospital on 28th of Dec, right? What if she was never *at* London Clinic to begin with?
London Clinic would have been the spot to pick if you’re planning reunion with fam papped visits and a victorious return to Windsor. It’s a good location for those “good press” moments the palaces crave – I mean look at Chucky & Bride of Chucky making the most of that this week. It works. What doesn’t work is when you pretend you’re bringing them into and out of that facility in the dead of night.
The announcement of “woo everything’s fine she’s going home to recuperate” came *right* on the heels of the Spanish press articles hitting Twitter on Sunday. It looks suspicious as hell tbh. Particularly as there was no photo of her waving wearily from a Range Rover as she sat next to her RPO. All the announcements are using old photos on Twitter.
I think the announcement is yet more deflection from speculation. The palaces look to be in a tizz because they’re not controlling the narrative like they thought they were. The pressure is really on them because it’s been over a solid week of people demanding proof-of-life photos now. The best they could do over the weekend in the tabs was Shutterstock! Really, fam? SHUTTERSTOCK? When have you *ever* seen them do that to a royal?
Her Late Majesty QEII once said of her public duty, “I have to be seen to be believed”. Those words better be echoing down the corridors of KP and BP, and the courtiers better start listening.
I wish there was a like button to your whole comment @Where’s my tiara…
Same
Girl posed in front of the hospital with her kids days (hours?) after giving birth. That there is no photo of her, as you say “wearily waving from the back of a Range Rover” is very very very suspicious. She must have been on death’s door. Or the issue is mental as well as physical, so she can’t “pull it together” to do a quick wave to well-wishers.
If that’s the case, JUST SAY SO! No stigma, Head’s Together, right?
I am truly starting to wonder if he beat her up or at the very least demanded a divorce and she lost her shit/threatened or tried to off herself. I don’t think she was ever there; I think she’s with the Middletons and has been since Sandringham, and this is just a wild cover story concocted by KP that BP felt forced to reluctantly go along with for the good of The Firm. Harry isn’t wrong — this is an institution, not a family.
Maybe she was there briefly for mental health reasons? But no way the MIddletons weren’t going to visit her in the hospital. That’s the tell.
You may be unto something.
I just read the information on the Spanish press and the media stressed that the operation was successful, but the problem occurred during post-operative care. They repeated this twice in the same program.
I got the impression Kate’s situation became very grave at some point. However, the secrecy has been there from the beginning. So, something about this incident was unfit for publication.
Here’s another speculation. The problem occurred AFTER the Christmas walkabout. Perhaps Kate experienced some sort of trauma that necessitated an operation. However, after the procedure, additional problems were discovered.
Has KP even mentioned the source of the problem? The underlying condition that necessitated the surgery?
Royalty, and particularly BRF has mostly dealt with mentally ill members by confining them in convents, farm cottages or the creepy castle wing where no one is allowed to wander. When they’ve failed to do so sh*t hits the fan, as if was the case with Elizabeth’s cousins or even the Duke of Windsor.
They’d treat a prospective queen’s mental breakdown as a State secret. They’d pack her to a secluded property and they’d surround her with military medical staff without even mentioning she’s sick. Given BRF’s recent history; I’d be surprised if she’s not there by now, or if there’s no plan in place for such eventuality.
If she was -as Spanish press said- put on induced coma; I’m afraid her brain is compromised, either by a cloth, either by body stress.
Induced coma of any degree is last resource method to prevent extensive brain damage. It comes with substantial risk of irreversibility and fully leaves the patient’s fate to doctors’ clinical expertise (to luck, in short). I’m not saying she’ll be necessarily impaired, but indeed her health situation was dire at some point.
The visiting Kate story came from the rota so it is possible they just made that up. Wouldn’t be the first time.
Whatever this woman went through (is going through) it is dark
@Chloe: I feel the same way.
I think so too. Something is very wrong here.
I agree.
Eh, I’m still of the mind that it’s a bowel resection (from ED) and she’s just too vain to be in public for the entire time she has a temporary ostomy. 4 months is a pretty standard window for a reversal.
A hearty fuck you very much if that is the case, from your (usually friendly) local ostomate.
Strong agree. I think it’s a bowel resection with a temporary ostomy. The cause for me is still TBD. It would be tremendously helpful to those in similar positions if she was transparent about what is happening.
@SAS given one of the finalists on The Traitors talked openly about having a stoma, you’d think KP would want to piggy-back off that. Guess I have to use reality TV for normalizing things now…
Well it can be tricky being out, if you have a problem intestine, I have crazy issues due partly to the nature of the ostomy and partly to the effect of chemo, can’t go anywhere much if I’m eating and drinking and have to fast to cope with appointments etc. Would be nice to put my feet up for a few months 😉 And hello ostomate! 😀
I’m starting to wonder if she’s been slowly and stealthily poisoned….how horrible. Obviously it is something extremely serious.
Coming from a family who refused wheelchairs because it made them look ‘weak’ (aka human) – this would be pretty serious.
Will be interesting to see how she navigates this and how the family deal with it.
I agree here. I also think she was in and out of the hospital before they announced she was “in”.
This is getting really creepy.
It does seem very odd, and the lack of info is causing so much speculation. To put it into perspective – a snowplough ran over Jeremy Renner and broke over 30 bones in his body, causing blunt chest trauma and orthopaedic injuries and he was also in the hospital for two weeks.
Great point about Jeremy. I was asking myself if I have ever in my life (even after major surgery like a c-section) been off work and out of sight for two entire weeks. Hard no. I have never heard of someone recuping for months and months, other than elderly cancer suvivors.
Agree. Starting to wonder if the extra janky wig she was wearing everywhere recently was to hide hair loss from chemo prior to the surgery. I know the KP press release very specifically said “it’s not cancer!” on Day 1, but who the heck knows at this point.
They said it was “understood not to be cancer”. That could be a firm “no cancer” and it could be “just until the biopsies come back”. Who knows.
Surgery doesn’t require this much secrecy. They are missing a huge PR opportunity by doing this; doting william could visit every day, kids visit once or twice, Carole at Kate’s bedside, etc. etc. But nothing. It makes no sense, nor does sneaking her out, unless that was her request because she doesn’t look perfectr.
I don’t like Kate, but this feels shades of Charlene. I now wonder if this is something personally embarrassing for William which is why it’s being treated this way. If it is, it’s bad, and not something he wants to get out.
Something that gives her leverage in a divorce?
It is very important for William’s reputation that she recovers physically and mentally.
Rumours from Spanish media that the surgery was difficult and she was put into an induced coma afterwards.
Has it occurred to anyone that this could be just another ploy to get attention.
She is only liked by a small number of people outside of the UK. All this mystery, and concern about her welfare by so many people, caused by keeping secrets. When she resurfaces the entire world will be so relieved and in love with her just like Princess Diana. It wont happen.
The midds have always been very devious, anything is possible.
Well what do we know of KP comms? They lie a lot!! So who really knows what is going on. Horsilla did visit Chuckles a lot with cameras rolling. Peg did one visit with cameras rolling and then put out that cameras were no longer allowed there. So we know he lied about cameras being allowed there. The plot thickens and the Mysteries at the Palace continue.
I totally want a Lucy Worsley special about this. Only she is capable of getting to the bottom of it.
Yes Lucy she did those King HenryVIII series about what happened to his wives. Yes she should be the one.
🤣
Lucy will wear all the buttons, wander through a candlelit Adelaide Cottage, and bring us the TRUTH! Followed by tea with a very nice Jamaican woman who is a PhD scholar studying the modern Royal family.
This would be the must-see TV event of the year for me.
I’m executive producer because it was my idea. Trying to figure out how to pay Lucy because I’m sure she does not come cheap. She is a legend.
BrassyRebel that’s fine but is your budget big enough for all the wardrobe, wigs, and the many buttons?
as my dad used to say, “I’d buy that for a dollar!”
I’m really not comfortable with speculation that extreme. But wtf is happening?
I agree. At the very least KP comms are deserving of being overhauled. Whatever the reason for desiring such a level of privacy/secrecy, it soon became apparent that the media (regular and social) was filling the attendant vacuum. They should’ve quickly pivoted to shut speculation, especially the more distasteful pieces, down. That they didn’t do anything but allow rumors to flourish worldwide (and that Spanish story was picked up in English language sites) is mind boggling. And now the narrative has been set for many and rumors will become fact for them. Incompetence? Arrogance? Both? Whatever the reason it was a glaring unforced error.
Kate’s + William+ C&C puff story lines, angst towards the Susexxes = deflection from PA story which has been executed perfectly as PA’s headlines have been killed off. The public have been played.
also PW’s appearance with Christian Jones = maybe a fine shot towards Harry to let him know that he is still fighting CJ’s Corner
Kate’s + William+ C&C puff story lines, angst towards the Susexxes = deflection from PA story which has been executed perfectly as PA’s headlines have been killed off. The public have been played.
Also PW’s appearance with Christian Jones = maybe firing a shot across the pond to let those concerned / in the know that he is still fighting CJ’s Corner
So where is she?
No-one saw her leave.
No-one’s seen her arrive.
No-one’s seen her publicly since christmas
And what about the cavalcade on the 28th of december?
I’m starting to believe she went in on December 28th and left before January 17th when they announced it. That’s the only explanation of no one seeing her leaving.
@Snuffles: I think so too.
I think so too, It also explains the lack of visits.
That is the most plausible explanation. But if that is the case why lie about it? The whole thing is just weird.
Was just thinking the same thing.
I believe this is more likely the case as time goes on. I find it hard to believe Keen was able to slip in and out of a prominent Central London hospital without a single person filming it. Cowmilla made sure the narrative of “no cameras allowed” was to be quashed immediately. Also the statement from KP saying she’s home is so haunting and eerie.
Or she was or still is in a totally different hospital-specialized clinic. I believe this statement from kp was their quick response to the wild speculation online and the fact that the date -limit (30 January) has almost arrived. They had to do something to gain some time….to find a better solution to the whole situation.
This has been my theory from the get-go.
Which means both KP & BP were lying, which is…wow.
I don’t think she was ever there.
If she had major medical work, but has since recovered and returned home, why not just report it that way? Why pretend she’s currently in hospital? This whole situation is really odd.
I don’t think the convoy on Dec 28th was royal related at all. I originally thought the same as Snuffles before I went back and spent way too much time looking into it. Which honestly, if that’s the case, makes this whole thing even weirder because the last definitive date we have about K is Christmas right? That makes it over a month, a few very botched KP announcements, and one Uncle Gary later, and they still won’t say K will fully recover or give a better timeframe for when she’ll even be seen? Not even through a window?
Was she even AT London Clinic? Maybe she was really somewhere else, and saying she was at London Clinic helped throw all the news outlets off track?
This London Clinic ruse became a runaway train what with Camilla visiting, proof of paps, and now Kate objecting to the image of herself in a coma so KP had to pull the plug.
So paps and reporters had the place staked out in recent days covering the king’s procedure, Cam was shown coming and going incessantly but there is no still photo or video footage of Kate leaving?
O.K. …
Now there’s a photo of Natasha Archer, Kate’s stylist, driving by the London Clinic. But no Wills or Middletons wanted to play pretend discharge this morning.
Why would she need her stylist there??
I’m pretty sure Natasha is officially her personal assistant but unofficially her stylist. Or at the very least is referred to her stylist by the media. So she might be there as a PA capacity – organising her leave, talking to the doctors etc.
Wills or her parents would be there for a discharge, but it looks like Kate had to take an Uber back to Windsor because there was no convoy for her. Poor thing.
I bet CRex is going to be discharged today or tomorrow and KP did not want to have to stage something similar.
Perhaps even her photo was staged to make Kate’s release from the hospital more believable..I wouldn’t exclude anything with these people.
I read Personal Assistant.
Ok and no motorcade was seen leaving? I suspect Charles will be released shortly to great fanfare and the royalists will use the video of that motorcade to muddy the waters. Something is completely sinister here.
Two cars were filmed leaving. Natasha Archer was driving the first car and the second car had what looks like a bundle of twigs in white wrapping on the front passenger seat. The rear seats were hidden by the blacked out windows. The video is on youtube UnBoxPHD posted about an hour ago.
The twigs or plant or whatever it is could be there to block the view to the rear seats.
Lol, l honestly believed you were referring to Kate with the bundle of twigs.
@ Feeshalori That was exactly my thought too.
The plant is definitely there to block any potential view of the back seats.
Meanwhile Camilla is sitting in the front seat when they pull out of the same entrance.
Ditto! Then thought, is that mean? 🤷♀️. What if that were the bouquet given to her??? Is that all that could be found in winter??? Pussy willow branches?
This whole thing is so odd and gives me such a chilling feeling. Why are they being so cagey and hush hush? They have to see how wild the speculation has become. If she’s really perfectly fine, they could do a much better job of conveying it, but they’re not. Why? Until I see otherwise, my mind is suspecting all the possible bad things. Kate is by far not my favorite person, but I don’t believe anybody wishes her actual harm. But I am concerned for old Buttons.
I’m with you. If ever there was a time KP should realize how completely incompetent they are, this is it. FFS, CBers are more concerned with what has happened to Kate than her own husband appears to be, which is not at all. This is really bad.
The kids should have visited, too. At least George and Charlotte.
Curiouser and curiouser. 🤔
Kate is a young woman so I never imagined anything seriously wrong, but this secrecy is starting to become … seriously alarming.
Ok, I admit it—it’s fun to make fun of her, but I wouldn’t wish any actual harm to her… Could Kate… actually be in danger?
Wow.
A baby 6 months old with a brain tumor is young also, what age have to do with illness?
Meghan certainly was.
Now it’s her turn.
Still trash.
She is not a “young woman”. She is well-past middle age, with three school-age children.
We can feel sorry she is sick without infantalizing her.
A woman of 42 is in her prime—looks-wise, sexually, in every way. Middle age i doesn’t begin until the 50s.
I think “young” as in young medically speaking. My husband, in his early 40’s, was described by a doctor as “young” when a minor health issue arose. In that a person in their 40’s genially has faster recovery than say someone 70+.
I don’t care for Kate either, but no need for the exaggeratory rhetoric. Kate would be in early middle-age or just a few years from starting it it, depending on which development expert’s definition of middle-age you are going by. And like Just Me said, this is all relative compared to other age groups, especially in medical terms.
Yeah, I agree Michelle. Kate is not young anymore. She is well into being a middle aged woman. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It will eventually happen to every one of us if we are blessed enough to live that long. I think to a person in their 60s or 70s they would see her as ‘young’ though. It’s all relative I guess lol
She is young enough that in most cases there would not be a need for such a long hospital stay.
Well past middle age at 42? She’s barely started middle age. She’s been looking rough lately but that’s health-related, not age-related.
I’m with you, KeKe. This doesn’t appear to be a case of plastic surgery, mental health or “exhaustion.” Kate and her extended family knew that there would be endless speculation on this health issue. Who would want to subject themselves to that if it wasn’t serious? I can’t shit on anyone who’s had serious surgery and hospitalized for so long.
If serious, then better to be straightforward with the info. No need to be shabby with obsfucation and misdirection. Because as you said, serious illness is understandable and would garner far more understanding.
I include mental health as being serious BTW. Mental health is the one area we know the royals see as the danger, jumping off the cliff zone. Mental health is what C&C, William, and their sycophants used to belittle Diana’s image. They did the same with Harry. They are scared of being diagnosed with MH issues. It’s worse than being involved in child trafficking or rape. It’s worse than cancer and other medical diagnoses. The reason for such fear is because it leads to the question of what led up to and caused the mental health breakdown. That would show the vicious ugly, dirty dark lives of Will, Kate, and C&C.
Regardless of the diagnosis, Kensington Palace has deliberately created this drama and even though it’s harming Kate’s image, it’ll continue this pathway because things are really bad inside the gilded asylum.
If it were serious surely her husband would be at the clinic more than twice?
Free Shelly! Because this doesn’t even need a tin foil hat anymore… something’s going on, it’s not good, but no clue what.
I feel the same way….some of the initial speculation was bordering on conspiracy theory but after two weeks this is so bizarre. No one saw her arrive (if we ignore the Dec 28th), no one visited her, and no one saw her leave. And all of the reporters are just acting like this is normal.
Are the children with Michael and Carole
No way. They are most certainly with will.
William has locked things down so the Middletons do not have the kids. Nanny Maria has been managing that part since day one anyway.
Are they in school?
What?? I’m jumping in on this story for the first time today and my head is spinning at all these theories. She was in a coma, it’s all a lie and she’s fine, William assaulted her. This is out of control. Why is KP not controlling this narrative better?
Because nothing was planned at all.
We need to remember that these people efficiantly turned a victim (Meghan) into a culprit in the eyes of the public. Hard to believe they couldn’t handle this in a better way….
I think so, too. Kate experienced some trauma that necessitated hospitalization. No planning occurred.
Maybe KP doesn’t know what’s going on? I read somewhere yesterday, Twitter feed I think, that said had anyone considered that this was a Machiavellian stroke by Carole? That William told Kate he was serving her with divorce papers so she and her mother decided to go to the hospital with something ED or digestive related, something that she’d had low or medium level. Kate could then be said to be seriously ill.
It would stop the serving of the papers (William would not want to look like he was divorcing a seriously ill woman) and would explain why William and KP were supposedly blindsided by the hospitalization. It would explain why there were no visits by William except one to ascertain what the heck was going on. The length of time she spent in the hospital could be Kate and her mother making drama – no hospital is going to say to the future queen that she has to give up the bed.
It could also explain why there is no back to work date. The situation is being negotiated – home, money, allowance, child access etc. and how to announce. there is no comment about her recovery because it’s not a relevant point except in how it fits in with the divorce rollout.
PoW or no, I can’t see any reputable hospital allowing a non-ill person to just check in & stay for 14 days. There needs to be a medical reason.
replying to BeanieBean, I don’t believe that she’s necessarily not ill, she could have decided to have g low level or medium level finally addressed, i.e. she had an operation of some sort.
You have your dates wrong. Tomorrow is Tuesday the 30th.
Hmm. I have had my doubts about whether she was there when they said she was.
It just seems strange that you would make an announcement that told the British media exactly where to find her with their long lenses. Yes, Charles and William were both said to have visited her, but neither of them is a stranger to covering up health information. I find it unlikely we didn’t see a single Middleton popping by.
I think it’s clear that several members of the media know exactly what is going on, or think they do. But they have also been camped out for days at the clinic in the hopes of getting that money shot of Kate leaving, so they clearly expect her to be there. How are they going to feel if William is not holding up his part of the contract?
If there is an embargo on reporting about or speculating about her hospital stay and recovery, I’m pretty sure that the press or someone did see her come and go but can’t talk about it. That is the way of emabargos. I understand why they released the statement about her getting the surgery as she will not be seen for some time. And I understand why they did the statement about her being at home. But in todays age of gossip and speculation you do have to wonder if it could have been handled more deftly in some areas, so as not for the conspiracy theories to come out.
Now that KP put out a statement, would a reporter be free to confirm it by claiming to have seen her leaving at the right time?
Whatever is happening here–and there seems to be a LOT happening–I think it started when they were taking that ridiculous black and white Christmas card that had to be photoshopped. For whatever reason, the Wales family couldn’t or wouldn’t be all in the same room at the same time whenever they took that picture. That’s when things started to get weird around them. Everything seemed “okay” on Christmas Day itself, but I’d say W&K have been MIA more than usual over the past few months.
You raise a very good point about the photo and how things may have spiralled from there.
My current theory is Kate was never in hospital. I’m guessing Kate is done with Peg, and she isn’t having any of her needs and requests met, so she’s protesting by refusing to work.
Peg was left with finding a way to explain her extra long absence from public duties, so he concocted the hospital visit.
After all, King Chuck was already going to the London Clinic for his procedure.
More importantly, I’m guessing that by the time Easter comes around and Kate’s supposed to return to work, they’ll be a divorce announcement – a finalised divorce announcement.
My theory is Kate’s not going to lift a finger to help the institution at this point in time, while the divorce is pending and she’s not getting the things she’s asking for.
Oooh, that’s a juicy theory!
Work? What work?
We should also keep in mind that absolutely nothing was posted on their Instagram page on her birthday which I found at the time very strange…not a photo, nor a video..nothing…so whatever is going on, it certainly was happening even before her birthday (8, 9 January?). Moreover, there wasn’t any articles of embiggening Kate as it was used to in the past…. something really bad is going on.
A woman of 42 is in her prime—looks-wise, sexually, in every way. Middle age doesn’t begin until the 50s.
Prime and middle age are not necessarily in opposition to one another.
For me, 43 was the last year I still looked like I was in my 30s. I still feel pretty youthful, but the mirror isn’t flirting with me like it used to.
@Bettyrose agree, 43 was my cutoff…perimenopause hit me like a ton of bricks at that age. Insomnia, bloating and weight gain, thinning/breaking hair/nails, depression and anxiety, etc and it went downhill from there. And I didn’t have an ED or other medical issues….My “prime” physically and mentally was definitely my 20s and 30s….
Whether or not you want to call it midlife, there are very real physical and psychological changes that start to happen in a woman’s early 40s, well before the supposed “middle age” of 50. No shame, it comes for us all
Boy they needed a distraction from all those European outlet reports popping up everywhere and here it is. I don’t believe one word coming from Kensington Palace.
Hi Cessily. What are the outlets saying? I read one from Spain about how there’d been a complication and she’d needed some more surgery. That was at the very start. Thanks in advance for any details.
Hysterectomy with post op complications that required intubation and an induced coma. Univision and various other outlets have versions of this story. It’s like watching a wildfire take off so I can imagine that KP is having a lot of anxiety right now. That is why this story was published imo.
Thanks, Cessily. I definitely hadn’t heard that before.
Easter is the best time of year to release statements you are trying to bury in the news cycle, like a divorce.
Considering there is a large media presence outside The London Clinic, watching all exits, there should be footage of her convoy arriving and then leaving as they head back to Windsor. If the only pictures today are of Cam visiting again, then I tend to agree with others in speculating that she hasn’t been there since KP released the statement back on Jan 17 and William’s visit was solely for PR. I suspect her health “crisis” was leaked and KP bounced into making a statement after the fact to keep the Rota onside.
This is it! She went to the hospital on the 28th. Had a procedure but there were complications after. She was most likely medically sedated aka induced coma to let her body recover and then when she recovered she was let out. They put out a statement after she left then had will do the 15 min PR stroll. Dec 28th to last week was already 2 weeks.
Charles and Camilla were in on the coverup as well because they didn’t actually visit her. She wasn’t there to begin with when Charles has already arrived.
The Spanish article said that they weren’t sure where she was now but that a hospital setup was created in her jome
Honest question – do we know that the photographers are covering all exits? Is it possible that there is an arrangment with the press that they can only cover the main entrance, and that the main entrance is only being used for the royals that want to be papd (like the one visit from William, and the multiple visits from Camilla). I don’t know if it’s actually been confirmed that photographers can be at all the entrances, and I’m also curious if there is something like a private entrance/exit through a garage or something that only patients/visitors have access to?
There’s plenty of footage from Charles being there that shows the press scrum in the pavement. There’s a private entrance, but you still have to drive past the press to turn in to it.
Honestly if they were trying to get the kids in/out to see her, they could easily have Will come in the front and the kids sneak in while he does that. But they haven’t.
It’s a residential area, from what I understand, and everyone has a phone with a camera. I fully expect that if the press wasn’t covering the back entrance, a regular person with a smart phone would have gotten a shot of anything interesting.
I saw film yesterday of Camilla’s car arriving at the back entrance. Very narrow alley type of street with paps stationed there too. Maybe after Camilla made sure to be filmed coming down the private back entrance KP finally realized they had been totally played and just decided to squash the whole hospital thing STAT. Plus the coma story did not look good–now her parents and Will were ghosting a coma patient? The ruse has gone off the rails.
The footage from unboxphd shows cars leaving from a back entrance, including a plant which could be the vehicle kate used. Camilla is also seen leaving from there too.
The daily fail only has a picture of Kate’s private secretary leaving the 🏥. Not Will or the Middleton. Also there was a article saying the kids were with them this past weekend so only Will has been MIA
Being picked up at the hospital by an employee instead of your spouse, after a two-week stay, is really pathetic. How can the DM or any of the rota rats or even the BBC spin that one?
My thought too. The spouse or family should be there for the discharge to get any instructions, sign release papers, and take their loved one home, etc
We’re supposed to believe she left alone, with an employee? Where’s her husband? Where’s her mother?
I call bullshit
Said it from Day 1 — all of this has been a lie, and they’re still lying. I don’t even think she was ever there.
I’m with you. It’s something that will affect her appearance, too. And needs months of recovery.
Kate’s entitled to her privacy but the lack of information from KP has lead me to believe that something really bad happened to her. I hope I’m wrong.
Bit by a shark while cold swimming in the dark? I mean seriously, the sky’s the limit in speculation. Competent comms people could have avoided all this, or at least shut it down once it started happening.
No comment from KP about ‘the Princess is expected to make a full recovery” is ODD. And their PR team are creating way more speculation than necessary about her health. Maybe this is to continue distracting the public about Andrew? I also find it strange that nary a brit left flowers for her at the clinic? This, from a city who lined up halfway across London to say good bye to the queen? Also no mention of the kids – that’s she’s been in touch via zoom or whatnot. You’d think there could be more released to give a narrative of normalcy without disclosing specific details about her health.
The narrative around this whole situation has just played out so strangely. Either KP’s comms team is incredibly incompetent or they are lying liars who lie. Both explanations are equally plausible.
Maybe if people start leaving flowers at the gates of KP like they did in Diana’s time, they might squeeze the truth out of the palaces…
THAT will never happen.
Because nothing was planned at all.
We need to remember that K and W PR team efficiantly turned a victim (Meghan) into a culprit in the eyes of the public. Hard to believe they couldn’t handle this in a better way….something really is fishy.
They aren’t saying she went home today, right? Just that she’s at home in Windsor and “making good progress.” She could have gone home before the original announcement was ever made.
This is just so weird. Camilla is clearly trolling William, the Middletons have gone MIA, KP’s PR is a disaster…….yikes.
Yup she was already gone when they made the announcement. The timeline is just starting from Dec 28th instead of Jan 16th. They were very careful in how they worded their statements.
Now the question is when will the British press leak the real full story?
I except that she’ll be out till May with a small appearance at the Easter church walk.
According to the Spanish reporter, she got her information from the palace. This reporter didn’t say which one, but I assume it was from BP. She also is viewed as credible in terms of reporting on royals in Europe in general. So when there are stories that kate was in a medically induced coma coming from someone like this, you have to wonder what is going on.
And KP’s response to that is to put out a vague statement. When it’s unlikely that anyone could leave the clinic without being seen.
This is a disaster of a comms team.
Do you know if the hospital has facilities for landing choppers on the roof, e.g. emergency patients? It could be how she left the hospital? It’s Willie’s favourite way to travel, although I really don’t think he’s seen her in a couple of weeks either.
If Kate’s at Middleton Manor then it would be quite easy to tell. Previous reports of Kate visiting her parents had the locals talking about a heavy police presence in the village and a public pathway near the home gets cut off and no one is allowed to use it when she’s there.
I didn’t know this. A public right of way is put out of action every time she ‘s at her mum’s house! The locals must just love that.
This was how it was generally known that kate was spending way more time at her parents than in wales. The locals would grumble about all the interruptions. Plus an ambulance would have to be on standby as well for her.
I’m surprised the paps aren’t stalking Carole. She must be visiting her daughter. Where are the Middletons?
Any stay in hospital longer than a couple of days is serious. She’s probably been hooked up to drains and tubes, intravenous painkillers and complete bed rest.
It’s very unhinged of the press to make assumptions or guesses about someone being in a medically induced coma, for god’s sake. I know that they left a vacuum for people and the press to create a narrative but that is just crazy to come up with, out of thin air. I agree it’s all the comms team’s fault for handling this so poorly, and William’s for allowing them to handle it so poorly, but these ideas get wilder and wilder by the minute. Who really knows what’s wrong, she could have had a myriad of things going on and the timeline could be off but everyone is just guessing at this point. I recognize that she was absolutely awful to Meghan and offered no help or sympathy to her or the babies, but we certainly can’t wish physical harm on people. It’s bad energy to be putting those ideas out into the universe.
I have not seen anyone wish her harm..
I’m not sure it’s fair to claim it’s bad energy to put this out there, with fingers pointing at people.
The Spanish press put it out there.
People have been exceptionally kind to Kate, more than they would have been to any other royal at this point. The bar is very low for her. The issue is she is a public role and has disappeared with vague statements from her own PR team that only invite speculation.
Example of how it can and should be done can be found reading BP’s comm on the king. It includes timeline, what’s going on, dates, diagnosis, etc. This is hardly new stuff, every public person has to do these statements to avoid speculation. She has been gloves off for a decade, and even now is being treated like she has less capacity at all times and lowered expectations, compared to other royals. She isn’t being subjected to UK tabloid scrutiny, in fact, they’re acting like this is normal. So she’s getting special treatment from the brutal to others UK press. It’s not right to demand that people also give her special treatment.
A good Comms team would have prevented all the hysteria you mention.
I read a translation of that Spanish article. Yikes if true, but probably just wild speculation (induced coma and intubation).
I wonder what outlet this is and how reputable? The intubation bit is what determines it as complete bs (as well as the summary above actually). A patient is intubated when docs are out of all options and death is nigh on certain, intubation is a Hail Mary and survival rates are low.
Intubation is not a last resort and survival rates are not low. That was specifically true of critically ill COVID patients but is otherwise incorrect.
Same outlet that broke the story about King Fredders and his affair with Casanova (SO aptly named it’s comical).
Where did you get it? Is there a link cause I can’t find one
Lawgirl, the link is in the above article. Right above the X/Twitter embed.
Kate is ‘making good progress’. This was flagged as ‘Good News’ on BBC News. She hasn’t been seen AT ALL. Fractures take a minimum of 6weeks to heal .
This. So much this.
This is all so odd. If Kate really had been in that clinic the last couple of weeks and was conscious her family would’ve visited her to keep her company like Camilla has done for Charles. It’s starting to feel like William only showed up that one day to make the statement they released believable and then sent his lacky Becky to say that royals don’t visit each other in the hospital as cover which was then ruined by Camilla.
Here’s my question: if the kids are in school what has William being doing these last couple weeks during school hours since he’s not been working or visiting that clinic to see Kate? Is it possible she was at a different hospital or at home this entire time? This stuff is not adding up
Willy is likely in the midst of a massive alcoholic bender holding his head in his hands and wondering how it all went so wrong so fast. He’ll also be periodically ranting about it all being Harry’s fault during his few lucid moments.
Or he’s being hidden while they figure out how to deal with the damage he did to his wife.
I think you are both right. As a matter of fact, the more I think about it, the more convinced I become you are both right.
Well, the two oldest can board at the school, so they’re probably boarding. Now, I think William might be on a bender, but not with his head in his hands. More like the nightclub in Switzerland all over again.
Replying to Chelsea: What is William doing? Obviously nothing. He is NOT dropping off and picking up the children from school. The parents of the other children have stated this.
Whatever happened was bad. That’s the only somewhat definitive conclusion I can make about this bizarre situation. I’m seeing people elsewhere wonder if this was a stunt or some minor procedure being exaggerated, but I just don’t get that vibe from the way KP and the Middletons have been moving. Whether she was at the London Clinic or a different hospital entirely, something serious occurred. And Will & KP are being very shady about the matter.
Exactly. That PR team attacked M &H when they were the victims and that spin will last for a lot of people, yet we’re supposed to believe they couldn’t come up with a better handling for a ‘planned surgery’?
@Beach Dreams the Middletons were the unravelling of the plan. It’s highly suspicious that their go-to Camilla Tominey has not weighed in at all with any reports on Kate’s condition nor the family’s position on her health. Looks like Tominey was told to pick a side and her silence says she picked Will’s.
Hmm, something in the pudding is off. I think she was long gone from there when the announcement was made and Peggy’s fly by visit was a distraction to feed the lie that her team put out or maybe he was there signing paperwork. The whole thing stinks of a coverup and a really bad one at that.
Chuck / Cams visiting her is also very suspect as it was only one rota rat who mentioned it, no one else really ran with it which is also weird. It was mentioned in a very vague way.
Given the deadly silence and weird comms around William am beginning to think the leak was deliberate from her camp – an attention seeking stunt aimed at getting him to heel and stave off a divorce announcement.
The more I think about it the more I think that the surgery relates to the royal motorcade seen rushing to the clinic on the 28th. Something happened at Christmas – not sure I buy into the DV theories but I suspect its likely been a culmination of long term health issues relating to stress and an ED.
She and her hospital visit was trending on X yesterday in the UK and it was not good – mostly dragging Peggy for has lack of visits and asking why she was not seen entering or now, leaving the hospital considering the press have been camped out there for the past 2 weeks. The UK press know what happened but they risk legal repercussions if they run it as the initial press release was a veiled threat.
Agree. I think she was helicoptered out a couple of days after she was admitted and is NOT recovering at Adelaide Cott. The very fact that the palace is saying she’s not going to be making any public appearances for at least 3 months because she’s “recovering” is very telling. And the fact that her family have not been seen visiting or said one word, not even blabbermouth Uncle Gary, is equally telling. Whatever is wrong with Kate is very serious and I still believe it’s a combination of medical issues and some kind of breakdown, and that she’s at a posh private clinic now.
Which also illustrates the depth of their actual interest & concern & support of mental health–shallow as a can be. Being open & up front, setting by example etc., would be so very helpful & useful, but no. They don’t really mean it, never have.
@BeanieBean Kate and William’s supposed “support” for “mental health” always was thimble deep. They never talked about any actual mental disorders or serious mental health problems. They talked about “tell a friend if you’ve had a bad day” kind of stuff, bonus points if it included football for William or “feeling overwhelmed” as a mother for Kate.
In other words, for them, normal everyday mental health and emotional regulation like…talking to friends…became “Kate and William are champions of mental health!” Because as others have pointed out above, real mental health issues are Kryptonite for the BRF. They’re supposed to be above that, better than that, better genes don’t you know! They aren’t mentally weak like peasants! And Kate and William *especially* do not want any part of their own mental health questioned…
Remember when QEII let it be known that she didn’t like the “Heads Together”/mental health platform (even though it really wasn’t about mental health) because it involved lots of talking about oneself and one’s life problems? Good times
Could it have been a suicide attempt after Christmas because Will told her after New Years there would be an announcement of their Divorce?
Or a mix of meds and alcohol? Many times we remarked how she looked medicated…and there are articles about drinking crack babies etc. So, an overdose of both could be the reason for the haste admittance to the hospital combined with a quick operation at her stomach? And this could also provoke some kind of coma? I think everything is possible. Be sure that whatever is going on has bad optics for everyone involved (Kate and William, and their image as a perfect couple). Which is why I don’t believe any kind of story about hysterectomy or some kind of cancer.
@Firstcomment:
It’s true that sometimes she looks like she’s auto medicating…. People are used to say here that her exagerated expressions are her way to facelift but she truly don’t seems to be here all the time to me….
At this point for me it’s not even about photos. As we’re all well aware, KP in particular has about nine million sources they can leak to if there’s a viewpoint or storyline they need in the media. So I think it’s extremely telling that every single piece of “news” we get from them about this seems like it’s coming several steps too late, like they’ve been playing catch-up from Day 1 and still haven’t got there.
I also still wonder about the division of what’s coming from Will’s evil henchmen at KP and what’s coming from Natalie, Kate’s assistant-to-the-private-secretary-who-doesnt-exist. Maybe it’s a situation where KP WOULD leak, except they’re as in the dark as the rest of us.
In any event, this entire situation stinks to high heaven, and again I ask how it’s possible that the entirety of the UK isn’t demanding proof of life at this point. Not because they adore Kate so much, but because the most elite family in the country and one of the most in the world should not be allowed to just disappear people in plain sight!
Reminds me of the old Soviet Union days, when they kept secret even the deaths of their leaders. I vaguely recall something similar for Spain, when Franco was ill & then died.
So the Spanish press said “her life was in danger” and “extreme measures” were taken. That makes me think of an abdominal aneurysm or something vascular. I was originally thinking GI surgery and requiring some sort of ostomy bag as part of the recovery (so she would be inpatient till it could be removed), but now I’m wondering.
If this is true, why doesn’t KP just come right out and say it? A cover-up is ALWAYS worse than the truth. Always.
The silence suggests that this was more than a medical issue.
Something is fishy to say the least. The Daily Fail is referring to her as Kate Middleton. She is officially still Princess of Wales though. I don’t think this is just some minor mistake. Might be a hint that there were serious divorce plannings going on?
@SUPERSOFT I think you could be right. For some reason Charles wants the Wales’s out of the public eye for the next few months. It might be because he feels they have been undermining him and Camilla. Perhaps a three month blackout of publicity about William and Kate is what Charles needs to establish himself. He has previously attempted to centralise the management of the royal households but as Prince of Wales he didn’t have the ultimate authority. Now, as King, he has the authority.
Alongside this I think something has happened that weakens any power William might have had to oppose his father. It could be an act of violence by William against Kate which has caused a visible injury. It could be an eating disorder which has caused a serious internal injury. It could be, as others have speculated, Kate becoming pregnant by another man.
Whatever it is, something has provoked a crisis and the management of that crisis involves removing the Wales’s from all public duties and public appearances for three months. They are effectively suspended from duty.
It’s not a hint. No media outlet has ever stopped refering to her as “Kate Middleton”. This isn’t new.
1. She’s been Will’s limpet for about 10 years before marriage, so the name established and stuck.
2. It riles up the crazies which generates clicks and comments, i.e. it’s click-/rage-bait.
3. Remember the importance of SEO. It’s the modern way.
As I said when the first statement came out, may she get well soon.
And I really do think the rota knew about this and what she’s in for and even threatened to release it. Hence the first statement about reminding people of her medical privacy as well as “think of the kids!”. It might also explain why KP are being so vague about everything – they’re mad at the rota.
Or I’m giving these people too much credit and they’re just incompetent. That’s a stronger possibility.
Remember y’all Harry said the the palace like to create a “show.”
He said he told the coms team that Meghan was already home with Archie but the coms team wanted the drama.
I believe they are doing the same thing here. I think something did go wrong with kates operation but instead of being upfront they saw an opportunity and they are staging it now to try and take advantage. I just don’t think they expected the backlash and have been trying to adjust.
She went to the hospital in December and came out right when they made the announcement 2 weeks later.
When Meghan was pregnant with Archie, the palace announced that they would tell the press when Meghan would go into labor. However, Harry and Meghan went to the hospital without anyone knowing and Meghan gave birth to Archie very early in the morning. That’s why the palace released that strangely worded statement. BP was just doing what they promised the press to do.
@Celine
No.
Youve obviously not read Spare.
@Jjfaraway has it exactly right.
If this is the case and they wanted to create as “show” out of her having surgery, then they are more crass and stupid than I thought possible. This possible scenario is just so crass, insensitive and insulting.
@KINGSTON — No, I have read Spare 192837 Times.
In April 2019, the palace announced that the Sussexes would welcome their child privately, and they would let us know when Meghan would go into labor and would release photos as a family of three a few days after the birth. However, the Sussexes went to the hospital without planning and without anyone knowing. Archie was born early in the morning at 05:26 BST privately. So then Harry had a “tiff” with Sarah Latham, who was the Sussexes’ head of communications at the time, because she promised the press that she would tell them when Meghan went into labor, but she couldn’t tell the press because 1) the Sussexes were soo private and didn’t tell anyone they were going to the hospital, 2) Meghan went into labor in the early hours of the night, and she gave birth early in the morning.
From chapter 56 of Spare:
I don’t remember phoning anyone, texting them. I remember watching the nurses run tests on my hour-old son, and then we were out of there. Into the lift, into the underground car park, into the people-carrier, and gone. Within two hours of our son being born we were back at Frogmore. The sun had risen and we were behind closed doors before the official announcement was released…
Saying Meg had gone into labor?
I had a tiff with Sara about that. You know she’s not in labor anymore, I said.
She explained that the press must be given the dramatic, suspenseful story they demanded.
But it’s not true, I said.
Ah, truth didn’t matter. Keeping people tuned to the show, that was the thing.
After a few hours I was standing outside the stables at Windsor, telling the world: It’s a boy. Days later we announced the name to the world. Archie.
The papers were incensed. They said we’d pulled a fast one on them.
@ JAZZ HANDS — “The papers were incensed. They said we’d pulled a fast one on them.” — Yes, and the blame falls mainly on their communications team at that time because on April 11, 2019, they told the press that they would inform them when Meghan would go into labor, and they didn’t do so because of the reasons I mentioned above.
“ Broadcast Fixed Position -Long Walk, Windsor:
A large fixed position for broadcasters and reporters will be facilitated on the Long Walk in Windsor. This will only become open for access once it has been announced that The Duchess is in labour. The facility will be operational from 6am until 11pm and for up to 72 hours after The Duchess has given birth.”
This is what the palace announced to us and to the press at that time 👆
Had anyone mentioned diverticulitis ?
Its not uncommon and she is a smoker and prob bad eating habits. My ex had it and was in a lot of pain beforehand and it involves surgery where youre hospitalized for a while and when he went home he was pretty much bedridden. Someone came in to clean the hole where he wore colostomy bag.
Then had to go back to have it removed if successful.
So not something you want advertised to the world, but still….all this secrecy it still doesn’t fit.
Laura: yep, it seems possible – her photos in the last year or so have shown her looking pretty rugged sometimes which is what living with pain will do.
This is all sketchy to me. No one, no pap saw Kate leave the hospital? I’m beginning to see why the BM was screeching about no public statement from the Sussexes. Harry knows how the game is played when it comes to medical situations about the royals and after how the courtiers played stupid and cruel games about Meghan’s mental health crisis, Archie’s birth and the queen’s passing they are not going to go along. The Sussexes’ silence raises and confirms suspicions. I’m beginning to believe something worse has happened to Kate and William was the cause.
Sussex silence? Do you want them to release a statement about Kate’s health condition? They didn’t release any statement every time Philip went to the hospital or when Elizabeth had Covid. The Sussexes have nothing to do with Kate’s health condition and they know nothing about it.
@aquarius64: The silence from Harry and Meghan is due to the fact they don’t have a relationship with William and Kate and are no longer part of the royal system. Why were you expecting them to make a public statement?
@aquarius64: If the Sussexes have even one iota of information on Kate’s condition they would NEVER tell. Can you imagine the lambasting they’d get from the BM if they did? “How dare Meghan and Harry reveal Kate’s private medical information!” They may have quietly sent flowers and a card but there’s no reason they would go public with it.
I don’t think this has anything to do with Kate’s physical health. From the start, I believe she had an emotional or mental breakdown, and she’s receiving treatment privately that may require 24/7 care. The signs of stress and self-harm have been evident for a while (hair loss, wearing wigs and bandages on her fingers), and she finally broke. I can understand the secrecy of it all because the last thing the royal family needs is for the public to learn that a senior royal wife is having a mental breakdown on their watch. William and KP’s PR not knowing how to manage Kate’s whereabouts and being out of the public eye for an extended period is par for the course. I believe they are giving Kate three months to get better, and if she can’t pull it together, we will get some announcement extending her leave of absence or withdrawing from public life as a working royal. Of course, I am speculating, but I feel like this is what’s happening.
Good take @Bren — she could very well be at some posh private clinic, possibly not even in England, but nothing adds up in this mystery. Willnot only visiting the hospital once, no visits by the Midds and zero comments from them in the media, leads one to believe her so-called abdominal surgery is a coverup for something much more serious.
@Bren l totally agree with you.
The article about Kate’s mental health then changing it to Harry was a tell. The original timeline made sense to me for a bowel resection as that was my timeline, though decades older and a fraction of her fitness, but it’s gotten weirder since that first announcement. I’m now wondering mental health. I hope she didn’t try to OD. Been there, done that, it’s a horrible place to be mentally (I was intubated and came out the other end). I truly dislike Kate but wouldn’t ever wish that on her, especially a mum of 3. The real issue is they’re opening it up to rampant speculation.
Please leave the Sussexes name out of this. They are not running BP or KP. All they need to have a torrent of abuse heaped up their heads, is for them to speak one whiff about Kate’s mysterious illness. The Sussexes are living their lives quietly in Cali, but all the leftovers on that island can’t move on without trying to pull them into useless drama.
The Sussexes are probably not surprised. Women who marry into the RF generally do not fare well and they probably knew that Kate has been struggling mentally and physically.
And Harry knows his brother very well, and has experienced what he is capable of doing when angry or just throwing his weight around.
I don’t believe any of this.
Do you have a theory? There’s about 37 different versions going around concerning her medical status, we might as well come up with a few too. At least our opinions won’t get published in a newspaper.
Perhaps Charles is staying an extra night so they can carpool.
Charles is out of hospital, he and Camilla did a photo op for the paps as they left this morning.
You know, Camilla’s been wearing a lot of blue lately, certainly everything she wore for these hospital photo ops. Isn’t blue Kate’s color?? Is Camilla co-opting Kate now??
1. Kate had a facelift.
2. Kate flew home by helicopter. The London clinic has a heliport right????
3. We’ll check out Kate’s new face this spring.
If it were 20-30 years ago I would agree with you, but the technological advances in cosmetic surgery are such that she could achieve what she wanted with micro tweaks over time with lasers, fillers and other micro injections, threading….really, the Joan Rivers type of full facelifts just aren’t done anymore. (Or if they are done, it’s with a cheaper cosmetic surgeon who doesn’t have the latest tools.)
Facelifts are neither as brutal as they used to be nor do they require the down-time as in the past. Now you look normal within 2-3 days and within a week can be around and about as usual. The swelling would be there but the swelling is pretty minor and wouldn’t look odd. It’s not a facelift and not cosmetic surgery.
What is odd is that there were no sightings of her and no pics and any excuse is silly seeing how Liz visited Sophie and Phil in hospital and now Charles and Camilla.
Something is definitely wrong and this statement feels so unbelievable.
I mostly feel bad for the kids right now. When they grow up, you just know one of them will be like Harry and leave the family and tell all about what happened these past few weeks.
More likely Louis since he is already being painted as the rebel, but would be nice to see Charlotte rebelling against the sexism of this instituition and as the only daughter she choses her own path marrying a POC or stranger and moving on.
How very convenient that the moment cams is seen visiting her husband regularly, Kate is suddenly home . This could not possibly be to cover up the fact that wank has only visited buttons once . You see Kate has magic powers. She can blink and transport herself from one location to the other. Yup that’s why even with all those media outlets station outside the hospital, no one has seen her leave . A house full of lies will get you in the end
A number of things can be true at the same time. Will not releasing the dutchy’s financial statement could be a way of hiding the divorce settlement.
Something did happen to Kate and my take on what the Spanish media is saying is she coded during the procedure/surgery and had to be revived. What normally happens is the doctors take part in a press conference and answer all the questions, noticed no hospital personnel has commented on this. I wish her well.
First time commenting but long time reading here. By now I think she might really be seriously ill: thinking back, she is terribly thin, had a moment of looking truly gaunt and unwell and is wearing more and more big wigs and now that husband of hers “considers” to make peace – whatever in the spinning world that may mean – with his brother…. As if it was clear, that she is not going to come back to “work”.
Let’s not forget ANDREW THE PEDO is absolutely loving this big distraction!!
#BREAKING: Daily Fail just posted photo of Charles and Camilla leaving London Clinic via the front door!
Check out photo of Charlie boy with snot running down his nose.
Aqualung anyone????
That just shows you how utterly common they all are….nothing special about them. If anything, cousin marriage gives you more variants.
This reminds me of what was going on with Princess Charlene, but on a whole different level. I hope she is OK. Whatever is going on, the way it is all unfolding gives me serious concerns for not only her, but how that family operates. And I guess I read one too many stories about the darkness these prominent families tend to have (this one and Kennedy for example) that I actually do not dismiss the worst scenarios proposed.
What is glaringly obvious to me is Carole’s absence. Not at all surprised that Will didn’t care enough to visit more than once, but her mother never photographed visiting? As a mother, I couldn’t be kept away from my hospitalized daughter. Wild horses couldn’t have kept me away!
It’s all too weird and frankly has me wondering if Kate isn’t already passed and the palaces are frantically cooking up their next move.
I completely agree with this. Carole’s absence, more than anything, indicates that Kate wasn’t at the London Clinic.
Carole is angry at Kate for whatever happened which led to this very bizarre story.
Man I hope we someday find out.
I’m more than a little shocked that no paps are following the Middletons. Wherever Carole is, Kate will be. Carole wouldn’t have spent this whole last month not seeing her daughter who is going through a medical crisis. That’s not believable
This is why I think the British media knows what is happening with Kate. As close as Kate is to her family, I believe the Middleton’s visits are not being reported to protect her whereabouts.
I’m a little confused, I thought the Royals don’t do hospital visits. So why is Camilla visiting Charles all the time? Unbelievable the stories that the toxic British press makes up to cover for their further heir.
(hand up, waving frantically, I know, I know,) It’s because she’s a married in and will never be royal.
The double standard is so wild to see Meghan was never ever afforded the privacy she was treated like less than human . The Royal reporter demand to know every details regarding Meghan but with Kate who has been treated with kid gloves for over two decades this narrative that people are wishing harm on Kate is completely false . What is happening is That Kensington Palace is playing fast and loose with the truth they been able to do that for over two decades what is happening is their lies are no longer being believed anymore .
If Kate left the hospital it would be with a flotilla of security vehicles, not just her PA and one RPO in tow. Also, why would she go to Adelaide which is allegedly where the kids live when there’s no room for the round-the-clock nursing care she supposedly needs? KP just keeps making this tissue of lies more and more obvious. Where is Willnot? Where is Ma Midd? Kate may have been at London Hosp for a night or two but my guess is she’s elsewhere and left by heli. This coverup is getting more and more sinister and I believe that the BM know the truth but are duty-bound to not say a word.
The British media really needs a reminder as to why a free press is so important in the first place and DO THEIR JOBS instead of just acting as another arm of the palace’s PR. I know the ROTA won’t step up, but JFC, there’s no one who won’t try to figure this out and tell the public what actually happened?
I get the need for privacy, but this PR ruse is beginning to smell shonky at best — like colluded obfuscation of something so damaging, Chucky R. was compelled to play along. While I hope the woman’s okay, God help this institution if she shows up with a new face in a few months, or there is evidence leaked that the RF has lied to the public. If any of us pulled this, we’d be probably be charged with fraud. (Baroness Bra lied to the media via her lawyers, each of whom had to backtrack when the sh!it hit the fan for fear of being struck off.)
Kate really doesn’t want to be seen. Or they really don’t want Kate to be seen. Is she so unwell that she can’t walk and muster a smile? Or did something happen to her face?
Kate wasn’t ill. She just had a number of cosmetic procedures.
They’ll fly to Mustique soon.
I just can’t with these people.
Criticism a side, I hope that she gets better and gets the help that was never offered to Meghan and she comes out as a better tolerate human being.
Some people actually do change after a serious medical crises. Some don’t. It will be interesting to see.
Breakdown, breakdown, breakdown! #WHERE’S WILLIE
It would be so simple for them to show her in some form and dispel rumors. Somethings very fishy and I think if they could show her face they would.
I’ve been watching the Royal PR playbook for five years now ….and what a coincidence it is that Charles and Kate both went into the hospital for medical procedures…. it happened after they were exposed as the Royal racists …..I think they are trying to get sympathy so everyone can forget about the racist incident ….if you’ve noticed each time they are accused of being racist someone goes into the hospital.
Tym, I haven’t looked at the timelines around that, but I think she’s been at Ma Mids. Did she have some type of surgery? Who knows. I do think that the plan was to get a lot of sympathy for KHate. I don’t think that’s happened. All they’ve accomplished is to stir up all of this speculation.
If she was ill, I think she is on the road to recovery at her Mum’s house and has been there for a while. I suspect she’ll recouperate there.
If this has been some kind of publicity stunt for whatever ever reason and has been with Ma this entire time, they screwed up. The narrative got away from them.
Something is being covered up.
That’s all we know for sure. Everything else is speculation.
At least with Charlene, as sketchy as that seemed, the monagaques (sp?) released “proof of life” pictures of her in South Africa. Hiding Kate away like this only causes speculation to grow.
All they had to do was give a brief description of her condition, say how long she’d be in the hospital, and provide a picture or 2 of her leaving, or even a head and shoulders picture from her room (or even her room at Adelaide) (that’s assuming she’s conscious and up to it)
All this secrecy fuels the worst type of speculation–is she in a coma? ED? Mental Health break? rehab? DV injury? abdominal injury? KP has lost control of this narrative, which is something that a palace coms team should never do. Any speculation is plausible because people know nothing. If she shows up hail and shining in a few months, that won’t end the speculation, and will probably fuel the belief that this was all a cover for plastic surgery. I don’t think that will go over very well.
The idiots at KP need to create a believable narrative, or else they will continue to drive the speculation that harms the royal brand. And no bashing of the Sussexes can mitigate that.
The Fail’s piece about Kate leaving hospital has a big circle around the plant and its clear Kate is hiding behind that – this is EXTREMELY ODD as this is a women who loves to mug for a camera, goes out of her way to get her face in front of one and now she is desperate to hide her face from the camera’s. Its even stranger given that Charles was happily posing for the press when he left with Cams.
The difference between not just either palaces but by both people is striking. One is being as open as possible and the other is being as vague and sneaky as possible. Its clear there is something to hide which won’t look good for her.
If it is an abdominal surgery then it makes no sense for her to hide her face.
So, Kate was well enough to sit up in a car. Hmmm. Was it Kate? I wouldn’t put it past them to use a lookalike
The reason the Daily Mail circled the bundle of sticks is that it is so pathetic we would otherwise miss it.
Kate was NOT in that car.
I agree ArtFossil. K wasn’t in the car. If she was, there would be much more than a PA/stylist and a blacked out car with a potted plant.
I’m beginning to think K wasn’t in The London Clinic at all. Not in December, not when the announcement about her surgery was made, not when W “visited” for 15 minutes one day. So where is she really? I don’t think anyone with any common sense believes she’s at Adelaide right now. And why have the Midds gone completely quiet about it – including Uncle Gary?
If Lifetime TV would put out a movie like that, people would turn if off, saying: “Nah, write a better script!”
My goodness, what a clusterfuck!
Another sign someone has put the kibosh on press speculation – Elizabeth Holmes (@eholmes on Insta) usually gives her thoughts on royal press strategy at length even for small events — she had a ton to say about the initial Kate announcement and why she thought the aura of mystery was a mistake. She’s also clearly fond of Kate and will post good wishes, etc. Today she’s put one slide up about Kate’s having gone home with zero reaction or discussion and then moved on to Charles.
My guess is the press has been told they’ll be able to discuss and share details at some point in the near future if they hold off for now. (It could have been heavily hinted that they would regret making a fuss once the truth is out, if something tragic has happened.) Nearly all outlets were willing to do that for Harry when he was in Afghanistan; that does make it seem this could be some kind of life or death situation for Kate.
If this is all because she’s embarrassed about bowel surgery or colon issues, it will be ridiculous.
KP is looking for maximum sympathy for Kate. She was exposed by Piss as one of the royal racists. Now the media want to use her as a means for reconciliation between the brothers.
All of this is just lame and shows that the BRF are absolutely useless.
It is all just so strange.
Their press team has really done a poor job on it.
I’m thinking something is pretty serious.
I was expecting at least a photo of Kate propped up in hospital bed, with Will or the kids around her.
Or a photo of her being wheeled out of hospital.
She has a major health problem for this to be so closed off.
I bet she was discharged early in the AM or middle of the night, inside the building into a blacked out van. Taken home to a full hospital set up w/24 hour Nursing and private Drs.
I bet Will made a deal to keep everything out of the press.
I respect her right to health issue privacy. But, all of this just screams “Major health scare” they really are just causing themselves more speculation by not releasing a photo.
Considering we were told it was abdominal surgery just seeing her leave the hospital would be enough to shut down some of the stories, especially the one about being in a coma.
JaneS, I’m not convinced that she’s not recovering well at Ma’s house. That’s if she had any surgery to begin with. At this point and after all of the speculation, I’m now wondering if this whole thing is designed to get KHate sympathy. Someone lost control of the narrative almost immediately.
“Making good progress” rather than “expecting a full recovery” is definitely concerning language. Like others, I don’t think she will be much for public life after this.
Agree. This is giving Duchess of Kent vibes
Coma?
Who is saying Kate is in a coma?
I’d release a photo ASAP to stop that rumor.
You’d think they’d get a personal photo out just to close down stuff like that.
When the King was very ill, QE Dad how did they handle it then, before it became public?
Btw, Kate has always been thin, if it’s a serious illness, she does not have an extra 20-30# to spare.
Stomach problems and nutrition are a concern.
I have a family member with CP + feeding tube. It is a true worry.
Kate has NOT always been thin. I wish people would stop perpetuating this lie to account for her current severely thin frame. The press reported on her more freely when she was William’s girlfriend, particularly at university. Then, it was said that while Kate was thin as a child she got a bit chunky in high school and was concerned about her weight gain. Ma Midd put her on some kind of strict regime/diet before University and she lost enough weight to be considered slender but not thin. Her weight also fluctuated drastically while at school. It was only before her marriage when she started some weird diet, that was reported in the press, that she became thin. Again, all of this was widely reported in the press, along with other procedures she got before her wedding, like her veneers.
I remember when the British press were making fat jokes about Kate.
She wasn’t fat ofc, but nowhere as thin as she is now
I would support them telling the press to stuff it and that Kate doesn’t want pictures taken when she’s feeling ill, but it’s extremely at odds with their past practice. I would have predicted Kate would rather grin out the window and bear it for a moment of driving past than have people speculating. I really don’t buy the plastic surgery speculation, and I can’t think of how it would be connected to an abdominal surgery, but perhaps there’s something obvious from her face that she doesn’t want to show?
What is wrong with you guys? Read these comments. Deranged. Leave her alone.
You should see what her deranged fans say about Meghan, Archie and Lilibet!
She deserves all these speculation and conspiracy theories about her.
Agreed, everyone in this comment section is deranged. She had a procedure her medical information isn’t your business.
10 bucks says you wouldn’t say that about Meaghan or Harry or their kids.
I agree with Celine. Where is this same energy for Archie and Lilibet? Do you comment on the tabloids, demanding they leave the Sussexes alone? Did you become upset at the media and the derangers’ ugly comments about a 2 year old and her naming?
Or is this you, Carole?
Kate Middleton is 1) a public figure, 2) a public servant [in the meaning of paid by public funds and expected to serve the public [although Kate does precious little service], 3) the Princess of Wales and future Queen. As such, a reasonable degree of transparency when she is hospitalized is expected. Without that, the public is entitled to speculate.
What’s wrong with you that you are scouring the Internet to police what people are allowed to write about Kate? I sure Hope YouRe getting paid for this, because it makes you look “deranged.”
You should leave innocent commenters alone, none of us are public people on the taxpayer’s welfare.
Deranged is everything ever written by the so called Royal experts about the Sussexes. The British shit press and the palace sanctioned coordinated smear campaign, and those who believe all that crap- 100% malicious lies.
Sussex supporters are called ‘Sussex squad’ and ‘sugars’. Sussex haters, often Kate fans, are called ‘vinegars’, ‘ghouls’ and ‘derangers’. And for a good reason.
This is a gossip site. People speculate and express opinions. Many have actually expressed concerns for Kate’s wellbeing.
They could avoid worldwide speculation by running a competent communication strategy. See for reference, Prince Charles and Buckingham Palace comms on his health. It’s not just this page…many folks out there are speculating.
@judith
I will NOT leave the racist alone.
Whatever’s going on they’re putting out what they want and their press sycophants and the public is accepting it. Something seems weird and off but it is what it is. Speedy recovery, etc.,etc.
This whole thing is so odd and leaves me with an eerie feeling. At first I thought it was perhaps a hysterectomy or myomectomy. But now I suspect it’s something much more series and bordering on sinister.
We have been in London for the past week and this is what we have learned from various taxi drivers:
It is very very serious
The pics of Charles and Camilla were trade offs for not taking pics of Kate leaving or the kids arriving
Kate left in a wheelchair
She has been ill for a while and the major surgery was a result
Our hotel was near the London clinic and I can say, there were tons of flowers, etc that were regularly being removed by people. Not sure who those people were. There was also press there but no one was actively photographing the back entrances. We walked by there several times as we explored the city and there was a lot of activity in the back (no one I recognized) but photographers were very obviously not taking pics.
The general consensus was that it is very very serious and people are being as respectful as possible.
@Delia This makes a lot of sense. I understand the agreement for no pictures, but no reporting at all doesn’t seem like a good idea. To report that the children had been there to see their mum would put to rest a lot of the rampant speculation. It would certainly normalize the situation.
people have been posting regular photos outside the hospital and there weren’t ever flowers. So, that’s just weird.
The press would be doing stories on mounds of flowers if it were happening. They eat that up and it doesn’t impact “privacy.”
The British Media is respectful to a white princess, but a black princess’s health (both mental & physical) is of no consequence. OK, got it!
They’ve made that crystal clear, haven’t they? Not just the media but the royal family.
Well isn’t that nice. A nice proper convenient explanation by way of taxi drivers that takes the stink off the Wales. Oh and look, there were flowers too, TONs of them, but regularly removed haha. And and paps were there, but respectfully not taking photos of the back entrance. Respectful paps haha
I know, right? But I do enjoy the laughs.
@Delia Thanks for these nuggets from London, so interesting to hear what people are saying. I trust local cab drivers a lot more than I’d trust the rota, that’s for sure.
This sounds ridiculous lol
She had a normal scheduled laparoscopic surgery for a large complex cyst. In the process some troubling material was found requiring she be opened up completely for debulking. Cancer was not found. Pathology was borderline ovarian tumor stage 2b with some spread, hence the debulking. She stayed longer due to personal preference for ongoing direct care.
Is this fact or speculation?
This is a very specific diagnosis and treatment plan. How do you know this?
Leaving aside how you know that, if that was the case, that would have been incredibly simple to include in the statement. “PoW had abdominal surgery to remove a complex cyst which had been determined to be non-cancerous.” And most ppl would have wished her well and moved on from all the speculation. I’m not saying the speculation is right and I don’t believe most of them. I think she did have surgery and for abdominal issues at London Clinic. Maybe they played fast and loose with the dates but if that wasn’t true at all, it would need a fair number of persons to be in on the secret and it wouldn’t stay a secret forever which just seems to me would be too risky and any halfway competent person would know that. I think maybe Kate was uncomfortable with the reason for the surgery (for whatever reason) and wanted to keep it to herself. Anyways, whatever. I certainly don’t wish her ill, there are very few humans in this life who I would, but I trust that she’s got access to care millions would dream of and she’ll likely be fine. I’m just not overly concerned.
This is the same person who couldn’t handle Meghan talking about her hormones so instead of providing a simple explanation, there is speculation relating from comas to facelifts. Great job KP comms! Instead of providing a teachable moment like Charles did with the prostate surgery, Kate and her crew have a circus asking for proof of life.
If this is accurate then the truth will come out and the clownery is not going to create sympathy for Kate. And hard to explain her not going back to do short engagements within a few weeks.
Obviously speculation. There wouldn’t be so much secrecy surrounding it if that was the case.
Source?
If this was the case, why was KP caught so off guard about her being in the hospital at all? It’s just weird that they handled it this way IF in fact this is what happened (and it must be nice to stay in the hospital longer than regular folk get to because of ‘personal preference.’).
Too specific. If true, this is serious.
This seems like a simple procedure though obviously scary. My mom had something similar. Why would they try to hide this? It for sure gives credibility to what Harry wrote in his book about Kate. “You don’t know me well enough to talk about my hormones.” To this day I don’t recall her personally speaking about her hypermesis. Why not bring awareness? Ugh!
Charles handled this the right way.
Sheer number of new accounts posting Kate propaganda is interesting. I’ve seen them all over in the last few days, and they all have the same talking points.
To whoever is funding this effort, it’s not working and it’s actually exacerbating the growing awareness of disparity in treatment.
Sometimes I enjoy a little fan fiction.
Wow. Some of the remarks and speculations are like throw backs to the National Enquirer heyday.
I used to think the team at the Enquirer sat around drinking booze and eating pizza and making sh*t up about celebs, the more outlandish the better. LOL
Some of these rumors are pretty frightening. I hope it’s just outlandish nonsense.
Anyway I look at it, the PR team for Kate has done a really, very bad job at handling the entire situation. Working for the BRF, certainly there must be long term “men in grey” who could have handled all of it better. If I was Kate or William, somebody on the PR team would be getting a serious telling off!
Kate is in her early 40’s, with 3 kids under 12. I hope she regains her health for their sake.
If she decides to “retire” from her “job” or cut way back on public life, up to her. They are figureheads, no actual power in the Govt. at all.
Btw, I wish everyone would stop all the divorce talk for W&K. And H&M, and truly get a grip on the outlandish hate about H&M.
Best comment here! Hope she makes a full recovery
Bit of a light moment here….
I googled King Charles just to see if anything new came up.
Results came up with photos of King Charles BRF and also several photos of King Charles dogs.
Took me a sec “Oh, King Charles Spaniels,” LOL
Seems like after the rumors yesterday from media sources Outside the UK(from having an eating disorder to a coma), they panicked.
The more I think about this, the more I think the Tampon Twins are doing a solid for Kate because maybe they too are fed up with the endless incandescence. Do you remember years ago a story about Camilla being appalled about William always screaming at and berating Charles? Then Joffrey starts leaking about how he’ll be a better king? He shows up late to the Coronation? Yada yada yada.
Maybe they reluctantly went along with the BS story that Charles visited her — or KP got that out there without even getting BP’s green light, but by parading out together and by Camilla going to visit him repeatedly, their actions were speaking louder than words. In other words: William/Joffrey is insane, he did something terrible/caused something terrible to befall Kate/Kate isn’t here and never has been.
They were dropping clues.
I was not suggesting the Sussexes should say a word about Kate’s situation. The BM wanted it to create a distraction to what’s going on with the Waleses and I’m glad the areas didn’t get what they wished.
Dickie Arbiter has changed his tweet from “released from hospital ” to “released from London clinic ” and from “prince of Wales will take up engagements once he’s satisfied Catherine is comfortable ” to “once he is satisfied with her care and recovery, he’ll return…”. The emphasis on the hospital is telling…
Whatever they are hiding most be very bad and they are afraid of what it could do to the weak institutions.
Maybe she has a stoma if she had surgery .
Probably won’t be seen till it gets removed later .
As someone who is obsessed with her looks I can imagine she doesn’t want to be seen .,till everything is back to normal .
Who knows . Could be lots of reasons she doesn’t want to be seen in public .
I can understand why .
She’s a future completely powerless Queen married to a future completely powerless King. They are cosplaying rich people, basically. She might as well be a private citizen. Let’s keep this all in perspective.
Personally, I can wait a few months or years or forever to find out what really happened and am happy to let her have her requested privacy on this. It affects absolutely nothing in the world beyond her immediate family and she doesn’t owe us anything.
Sounds as though they expect her to be out and about in a few months and then people can start speculating again if they must. But right now, it’s a Miss Marple mystery with a book title but no details provided.