Tom Sykes at the Daily Beast got some interesting quotes from an unnamed friend of Prince William and Prince Harry. It’s probably the same “friend” who has provided endless quotes to Sykes about how William “absolutely f–king hates” his brother and sister-in-law, and how the next time William will speak to Harry will be at their father’s funeral. Even one month ago, these unnamed friends-of-Bill were insisting that William and Kate “will never reconcile” with the Sussexes, especially after Kate was outed as one of the racist royals. Now that Kate has a health crisis and the slimmed-down monarchy is under significant strain, suddenly friends-of-Bill are singing a different tune. Funny that. Some highlights from the Royalist column:
Kate will act as peacemaker, you guys: One old friend of Kate, William, and Harry, who went to school with the brothers but has not spoken regularly to Harry since he emigrated to America in 2020, told The Daily Beast: “Health problems do tend to put everything else in perspective. If Harry and Meghan have made an effort to reach out to Kate to offer their best wishes, Kate will reciprocate. William would quite happily never speak to either of them again, but Kate’s a peacemaker at heart. She would definitely be open to using this situation to build bridges. Never waste a good crisis, right?”
Harry & Kate used to be close? This friend said: “You have to remember that Kate and Harry were exceptionally close. He adored her, and she provided a sense of stability after the chaos of his youth. I actually can’t imagine a world in which he wouldn’t have sent her a note, despite everything. Everyone in the family has, frankly, had enough of the whole feud narrative. It’s way past time the whole thing was put to bed. Trust has been damaged, and I don’t think they are ever going to be calling each other for a heart to heart like the old days, but it’s time to move on.”
Charles would welcome his sons’ reconciliation: Kensington Palace did not respond to a request for comment on whether Kate had received a message from Harry and Meghan, and if she had responded or intended to. However, there is little doubt that King Charles would hugely welcome friendly overtures from William and Kate to his younger son, as he has shown himself keen to promulgate an image of family unity in recent months, most notably by including the once-disgraced Sarah Ferguson in the family group walk to church on Christmas Day last month.
William would be willing to reconcile with Harry for the good of his reign as king: Speaking to friends of the royals in recent months, it is quite clear that the extent of the breakdown in relations between William and his brother really cannot be underestimated. One friend previously told The Daily Beast that William “absolutely f–king hates” Harry. But William is also enormously conscious of his responsibilities to the institution. While he may have his reservations about his father’s policy of putting family unity before all else, he probably also knows that in the very long run, few people are going to regard a king who doesn’t speak to his own brother as a solid role model, or a unifying example of the best of British.
William might do something performatively: The Windsors have always been good—too good some might say—at putting duty before personal considerations. By making noises suggesting he would be open to reconciling with his brother, at least performatively, the ball is back in William’s court. The question will be whether William can subsume his personal anger and put his arm around his brother again—even if it is just for the cameras at first. William’s convalescing wife may be critical in helping him make that decision.
It sounds like people around William are telling him that his childish incandescent rage towards Harry and Meghan is not a good look longterm. But is William listening? My guess is no. Plus, William and Kate are still desperately trying to put the onus on Harry – Harry must contact them, Harry must make the effort, Harry must do this or that so Kate can pretend to be the grand peacemaker. Harry made it pretty clear, in his own memoir, that he was never particularly close to Kate and that William assaulted him. William and Kate were both wildly disrespectful to Harry’s wife. We keep learning more sh-t about what went down in 2018-2020, to the point where it’s abundantly clear that the brothers’ estrangement was a long time coming and arguably the healthiest solution. Still, it’s incredibly “interesting” that someone wants this narrative out there – that William might need Harry around, that Kate’s hospitalization is some kind of game changer for the brothers’ relationship.
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I call bullshit. Since when has William been concerned about anyone’s good but his own?
He truly misses his brother being there to use as distraction so no one looks too closely at what going on in his life. He has no one to puppet master and hide behind and the made up narratives of outrage towards the Sussex’s just aren’t holding water anymore.
Cessily – yup. His scapegoat is gone for good and he’s freaking out and incandescing from London to Windsor!
He is loosing Kkkhate and doesnt have sausage finger daddy on his team, so of course he needs to call in Harrold to make peace. But just Harrold, not Meghan.
Bullyboy also needs someone to do the work that he isn’t capable of doing, someone who won’t get fired on TV!
Absolutely no mention of Meghan and the children.
Don’t they realise it can never be what it was before .
Harry has his own family now , they have to accept that .
This reads more like ‘I’ve figured out how to use you to make sure I have more than an Island to rule, and so your efforts reflect well on me’. Thing is that ship has sailed……can’t even see it on the horizon
🙄 🙉 🙈 👀 🙃 🤣 😂 😅 😝
Woo boy! Ain’t karma a full-on beeyotch, now. 🤦♀️💁🙅♀️🤪
Don’t tell me it took the Sussexes being invited to Jamaica to attend the Marley film premiere, coupled with Kate’s obvious albeit long coming illness crisis, for the nonces in the salty isle firm to start scrambling past false ‘olive branch’ pretenses and toward faux p.r.-motivated ‘reconciliation’ talking points. Another nonstarter. FAFO.
Harry’s real name is Henry, not Harold. Just FYI
It’s what his douche brother calls him, so yeah, hard pass. I hear it in my head in Willnot’s jaw-clenched, not remotely dulcet tone every time.
I had no idea William calls him Harold. Thanks
Can’t you only hear it in a sneering, mocking tone, now that you know?
He’ll tolerate being around H&M for the good of the monarchy so that he can have someone to abuse and put work off on when he is king? Thanks, but no thanks. Kate the peacemaker should have died long ago. She seems to be the one who ramps things up with PW. If she had laughed off the “baby brain” comment, PW wouldn’t have gotten worked up about it. And give me several breaks with “she provided a sense of stability after the chaos of his youth”. PH has written his own version about who provided him with a “sense of stability” and Kate didn’t feature in it.
If Kate had any liking for harry she would not have made trouble for Meghan. I think she liked being the center of attention for two princes. Harry was not close to kate.
In many photographs from before Meghan entered their lives, Kate clearly had a big crush on Harry. It’s in her eyes. She couldn’t hide it. Her attraction to him was in her eyes and body language. She looked like a pheromone-addled teenager next to Harry. The pictures always made me embarrassed for her. Her face became stern when Meghan entered the scene. The press try to explain it away as this “closeness” between Kate and Harry, but that is NOT what it looked like. She hasn’t been photographed looking at William like that in years.
Kate is a peacemaker at heart is simply not true. Not with Meghan anyways. There is too much evidence to the contrary.
Yes. Kate views Meghan as a sexual rival for Harry’s affection, and for male attention in general. Kate never stood a chance with Harry of course, but she doesn’t see it that way.
I agree with Gabby. Kate was much too handsy with Harry and Willy must have noticed. Also, the future king realizes that he needs Harry’s charisma and work ethic, Willy probably thinks that keeping Harry close gives him a better opportunity to drive a wedge between him and Meghan.
Kate has never, ever proved to be a peacemaker at _anything._ So this is wishful thinking beyond the bounds of stupid.
This is the press telling Willy to suck it up and make up with his brother. Or at least fake it to lure him back.
Agree. The only “sources” for this piece is likely the author himself. The media wants the golden goose back.
Might Will be worried his father could possibly leave this mortal coil sooner than later. As he may delight in the riches that would come with the crown but, oh dear, the duties. One wonders. Of course, Meghan would very much be an issue and the exotic children. What to do.
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Sorry, I posted the same thing without reading this first. ITA – the current narrative of “I hate Harry” isn’t selling anymore. The press needs something new.
I believe the upper echelon of the royal rota knows what happened to Kate, and therefore William would need his brother and Meghan to assist him.
It’s clear that William’s “friends” haven’t read Harry’s book to be still spewing out old narratives about Harry and Kate being close and her being the peacemaker. My question is if William does make overtures towards Harry, can Harry even trust him to not throw him and Meghan under the bus again?
Harry confirmed in spare that he and Kate were not close. Kate is no peacemaker she made threatening steps to Meghan in front of cameras. She needs to apologize to meghan. William assaulted his brother and tried to break up his marriage.
Seriously, it was just a month or so ago that we were told that standing next to Meghan was the “hardest thing” she’d ever had to do.
“Peacemaker” – what a nasty attempt to hide her cruelty.
Can you point me to some stories about the Windsor walk aggression. I missed it when it happened and can’t seem to find anything that says what happened and has footage. With every comment I hope to get something more but it seems that I’m alone in not getting it from the shorthand.
I’m dying to know exactly how blatant she must have been for it to be so notorious. How far past stink eye did she go?
It was blatant. The way M visibly stepped back, and H stepped in.
Kate fixed her with a true stink eye and then stalked toward her fast. Meghan looked alarmed and stepped back and Harry stepped between them. It was just a few seconds, but it was bizarre. My instinct was, oh my God, Kate is going to slap Meghan. She didn’t. But it wasn’t anything like normal.
Is the room spinning for anyone else? No? What is happening on salt isle with this we are ok with a reconciliation with Harry? What is driving this now? Yes Chuckles is out for a bit but there is nothing wrong with Peg. Things are happening over there but what are they?
Susan Collins, I have the same questions. Why this message and why now? Is it because so many people have speculated on Twitter that Egg got violent with Kate and that’s why she was in the hospital? They realize they need to improve William’s reputation and also distract the public?
Roo. That might be true who knows for sure.
Susan C – I think there’s a ton wrong with Pegs. Everyone has known it his whole life and only now are they coming to grips with the consequences of having been to abusive to Meghan – the loss of the star, the workhorse, the scapegoat, Harry.
The narrative was always that Harry would be there to help his brother during his reign. So this begs the question of why he’d need that? The answer is that Pegs has serious issues of all sorts. From the incandescence to the philandering to the sheer laziness.
Roo – that’s what I’ve thought all along, that she’s in the hospital because of something he did to her. Nothing else makes sense in terms of recovery times or with his complete lack of hospital visits. I think he was told to stay away.
Anyway, I’m sure it’ll all come out soon with that Spanish tabloid publishing the coma stuff and the rota rats itching to talk about what they know.
SussexWatcher: I agree there is a ton wrong with Peg but I was referring to him being able to do appearances in Chuckles absence. But I also believe that he may be the cause of what is happening with Can’t and if he is the cause could we not be seeing him now because he is getting help for his anger. So many questions.
I think that William was/is as messed up about the loss of his mother as Harry, but Harry was allowed to act out, to serve, to write, to finally recover. William was scooped up by the crown, “your mother’s gone, but youre one of us now, chop chop” marry this woman, have these kids, fall in line. Now he’s 40 something, his father who he can’t respect, his stepmother who he must loathe, run the family. Like Harry said, he is trapped, in the system, with the rage of how his mother was treated, and how she died.
@Laurie I agree that Will was also effected by the loss of his mother but I disagree with everything else. William was protected and Harry was exploited. Being treated like the center of the universe is what messed him up. He treated Kate like a mattress and a doormat at the same time for 10 years. He married because no one else was willing to ruin their lives for clothes and jewelry. He also did so much shady and sinister sh*t to his brother and in general that the RR have him in their pocket. He rolled over the second he realized that he kicked out Harry made Camilla’s dreams come true and had to fall in line. He continues to work with the RR to attack H&M and their kids with no moral pause at all. He is not trapped he would be nothing without the system. He isn’t Harry and Will would just be a divorced, bald, talent less, skill less, rapidly aging looks rage monster if he wasn’t a prince and future king.
Harry was emotionally and financially abused, neglected, used as a scapegoat, forced out of the army, and more.
All I need to know about William is what Harry said in the book when William didn’t want to stay the night before the got married to support him. He is deeply insecure and jealous of Harry. Harry is so different and not because he got to act out but because he was not protected by anyone in his family and found refuge in the army that opened his mind, heart and inspired his life’s work with Invictus.
While he was always known from a very young age (by the press) as “Billie the Basher”, I always wonder if that crack on the head by a golf club when he was a kid (one hard enough to require scans and an overnight hospital stay) did give him a TBI. It could explain the incandescence/rage etc that has just exacerbated his behavior(s) over time.
Still…. the more time that passes, the more I’m thinking it’s a fight that got out of control at Xmas, and more than pillows were thrown.
@yupyup
Completely agree with everything you said.
Certainly, this sums up Billy the basher/Bully Parker-Bowels aptly:
“He isn’t Harry and [Bully] would just be a divorced, bald, talent less, skill less, rapidly aging looks, rage monster if he wasn’t a prince and future king.”
Elizabeth’s father was known to have uncontrollable rages. I think a certain instability may run in the family.
@Jan90067 — I agree. That’s why Pegs has basically disappeared. He thinks by not appearing publicly the whole mess will quieten down but he’s wrong. All it does is add fuel to the fire that he’s a big part of Kate’s *illness* and resultant withdrawal from royal duties for the next 3 months. I have a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach about this, it’s like the elephant in the room that the BM, palaces, rota, the Midds and BaRF are ignoring…”nothing to see here folks, nope, nothing at all…”
@Jan90067–ITA. For the Grey Men to go to such extremes to protect William–and essentially put the monarchy at risk by doing so–means they saw he was ill from a very young age. Their whole long-game plan to present William as a worthy heir needed Harry to stay “in his place.” But ever since he left, things have begun to spiral beyond even what they think they can control.
Hahahahahaha!
Total twaddle. I don’t believe a word.
But @Susan Collins may have a point.
It’s not a good look, but he’ll never do it because he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. They know as well as we do, him and his wife are not inspiring any widespread long term loyalty. It’s not like William has his hard work and charm to fall back on. Also those at the palace have started to realize that constantly railing about how you hate two people, when one hasn’t mentioned you in a year and the other in longer than that, and the last time they did they referred to you as their husband’s family makes people realize you’re the problem.
William and Harry were never close, they’re still trying to make fetch happen with Unable and Harry being best mates.
Harry found out about Cain’s engagement on the news, the week after he was on vacation with him.
They never invited him over to their apartment in walking distance from the dump, where he was living.
Harry can be their whipping boy again, Meghan is over that toxic family, if she can cut off toxic Tom, it should be no problem for Harry’s family.
Women will put up with a lot, but when it comes to their children all bets are off.
I would worry about how Archie and Lily would be treated. Lily was complained about for the name she was given.kate ignored baby Archie when she was a few feet away.
He once called Kate the sister he never had. I believe they were very close at one time. He wouldn’t have had the childhood baggage he had with William and Charles.
I don’t think harry saying that meant he was close to Kate. He was being polite. Little did he know about how she would treat his wife. William did not offer the same polite comments from william about Meghan. I recall that Laura Parker Bowles actually step sister got similar welcoming comments that she was the sister they never had. No way we’re harry and Kate close
Beliefs don’t matter when it comes to facts. Harry said it himself that he was never close to her and laid out just how little he knew about her and spent time with her in Spare.
Linder – was that a quote made on camera though? Because otherwise we know the rota rats make up any and all sorts of lies to go with this hour’s narrative. Unless he said it on film (and I don’t remember that being the case) – plus combined with what he did say on record in his book – I think can assume him having any sort of deep relationship with her to have been a rota rat fever dream.
When and where did he say that? All I can find are royal “sources” that claimed that. Is there actually a video or direct quote from him saying that?
@Sussexwatcher , @Equality – Obviously, some of you here haven’t read Spare. He was very warm towards her in his memoir, which I found very weird.
“I loved my new sister-in-law, I felt she was more sister than in-law, the sister I’d never had and always wanted, and I was pleased that she’d forever be standing by Willy’s side. She was a good match for my older brother. They made each other visibly happy, and therefore I was happy too”— Harry in Spare about Kate.
“Loved” past tense. Given what he goes on to say about the way they treated him and Meghan I don’t believe he still feels that way. Both Harry and Meghan turned down the temperature in all their interviews and in Harry’s memoir. I think for all the overreaction from the firm and the media, they all know that Harry and Meghan could have said more, much, much, more: in fact, didn’t Harry withhold 400 pages?
@Proud Mary — Yeah, But Harry used the word “loved” in the past tense a lot in his memoir, even in relation to Meghan and his mother. If you read Spare, you would know all of this.
From all the events re: QE2’s funeral, we saw how Harry was/is think of KKKate. No mather what he thought of her before Meghan came on the royal scene, (He, like Meg, seems to think the best of people.) Harry didn’t display any warmth toward KM at QE2 funeral. (And rightly so, considering their despicable treatments to Meg.)
He totally blanked her. He and his rage monster brother looked each other in the eye, Harry had none of it with Kitty. Whatever she did to Meghan, Harry found it unforgivable.
Camilla being papped visiting Chaz 3 x makes William look like a bad husband — and maybe someone on William’s team is able to see that William has isolated himself …
But that’s too rational, right?
Oh my, such projection. Both sides are sick of the feud narrative, are they? Perhaps you mean the BM has beaten that story to death and there’s no more traction from it?
This is all a warning to William to suck it up and stop being such an incandescent toddler. Make nice with Harry,even if it’s only to provide lots of photos. The BM need them desperately.
The only way William is going to “beat” Camilla is to make some sort of peace with Harry! The woman will lose it big-time if Diana’s boys make up. Also if (as some believe) William and Kate are looking to divorce. What better way to get Kate off the front pages than a picture of William visiting his brother in Montecito. Even better, would be to take the children over there with him. There wouldn’t be a need for any photos just EVERYONE knowing that HE took his children over to meet their mixed-race cousins would be enough!
I think just the mention of William making peace with Harry is a RR’s pipe dream but, it does take the heat off him for a while. Realistically there are still court cases to be heard, and this could be William telling his paymasters that he still has enough influence over Harry to persuade him to drop the cases. Fanciful thinking? Yes I agree. But, never ever underestimate the arrogance of that family!
William should be meeting and making up with harry and Meghan and be nice to their children. No way should will not include Meghan in the peace making. I think those would be harry and Meghan terms. Harry should not go without Meghan when he brings their children. It would look like he’s trying to cater to William by leaving Meghan home.
Sorry @Tessa – I wasn’t clear! William going over to Monticeto would of course mean that he would meet Meghan. No way should Meghan be turfed out of her own house just to appease the ‘rage monster.’ I just think William’s back is against the wall and he the only way he can escape is to press the “Harry and Meghan” button!
However, as I said in my post I believe this is all just nonsense. William needs to start delivering the goods to his paymasters. The court cases are due and Harry isn’t backing down.
It’s a shame Willy didn’t inherit his fathers love of reading, he could have studied the greats to learn who to keep close. Instead he has surrounded him self with sycophants , who don’t tell him when he is being a 🍆 .Now his wife’s illness is showing vulnerabilities in this strategy he has adopted
It would be more useful if Sykes reported from his aristocratic dinner parties the real tea about what happened to Kate instead of this rehashed drivel. There is talk from the toffs that she had a mental breakdown over the D word and went straight to CarolE.
I want to hear more about this, because I think it’s mental health related. Personally, I think it’s complications from an eating disorder, but with a little evidence I could be persuaded that she self-harmed re: divorce. I do believe that there IS a physical component, but I believe the BIG issue is mental health related.
Harper, I believe that is entirely plausible. The fact no one was visiting? She wasn’t there. I think she very well has been at Ma Mids and I don’t know who put out the statement for KP, bt they wanted speculation.
I wouldn’t be surprised if official PUBLIC separation/divorce has been on the table between the two of them for the last 2-3 years. I’m not certain the KHate ever thought it would happen. I wonder what she thinks about the fact that she didn’t have hoards of people waiting outside the hospital or leaving flowers. Yes, I think she would have expected that.
I’m not sure if it’s Will himself, the rest of the family, the courtiers – but *someone* has seen what’s happened with the Kate situation and is in a full-blown PANIC because there’s nobody left to pick up the pieces except Will and, well…
We all know Harry was used as cannon fodder for the media to protect Will, and we sort of acknowledge that Harry was the one handling engagements, projects, and causes that should have fallen to the heir while Will was “flying EMS” or whatever. But I think we may have still been underestimating just how much Harry helped smooth out whatever disturbances his brother kicked up behind the scenes, which I’m sure were both plentiful and horrifying.
At the end of the day, they’re right – they do need Harry, Will cannot function without Harry, without Harry there’s no way Will will be able to keep his true nature hidden forever. Well, too bad! I love that for them! The UK sowed nothing but hate and abuse for the spare and his wife and coddling and protection for the heir and *his* wife, and now it’s time to reap, baby! Good luck with that!
Hmmm, I’m starting to think it’s Chuck with the serious health problems. Could Chuck be tying up his loose ends and getting his affairs in order? Maybe his last wish is for his sons to reconcile?
The two lazy royals are looking for their workhorses to pick up the pieces now that everything is falling apart. Standing next to Meghan was the hardest thing Kate had to do and William can not put his arm around his brother because Harry became an alien since that bloody woman married him. Harry tried to save them from themselves but they were too shortsighted and stupid to see the gift which was Meghan. Too late for reconciliation the damage is too grave.
William’s behavior patterns and his entitled beliefs about Harry will not suddenly change.
There is no happy family scenario here, no trust, only manipulation, betrayal and being used.
William “needs” Harry so that he can better position himself, so that Harry can suit W’s needs.
Harry doesn’t deserve that, nor does his family.
It’s so funny that Tom talks about Charles being all about family unity and uses as an example Fergie being invited to Sandringham for Christmas but ignores the fact that Charles didn’t even one of his own sons and evicted said son from the only home he and his family had in the UK(that he paid millions to tenovate). These people are something else.
Charles & William chose Christian Jones, Jason the knife, Angela Kelly, Dan Wooten, Piers Morgan, Jeremy Clackson, Devil Levin, Camilla Tomoney the liar, Boris Johnson and his evil sister who said Meghan blood will thicken the royal family blood, Daily Fail, the Sun, Express, Guardian, Mirror and the rest of the Rats over Harry & Meghan. Both Charles & William should call those people to help them carry out the work. Ps…. All the Middleton grifters are available specially Uncle Gary and Carol.
True! Speaking of uncle Gary, he’s apparently going on celebrity Big Brother. Expected to spill tea.
F!ck Will.
Exactly!
no thanks, I’ll pass. I have too much respect for myself, and I suspect he’d be a selfish lover.
Kaiser says, “the brother’s estrangement was a longtime coming and probably the best solution.” I think the best solution for anyone around William, especially Kate, is to become estrange from him. I truly don’t see how Harry can seek to reconcile with a person with whom he barely had any relationship, and who abused him both mentally and physically. People like William never change, and with more money and power, they just become more of whom they are. Please stay way from him Harry. Please.
Couldn’t have said it better!
Spot on! 👌👏
This. I think continuing the estrangement is the healthiest option for the Sussexes. I cannot think of one positive aspect of letting W&K back into their lives.
I think William is buckling under all of the pressure to step up and act like an heir while two senior royals are out and he can’t handle it. He needs Harry to handle the workload. I’ve always said it’s not just about Harry being a distraction or scapegoat, it’s about Harry doing all of the work. William just wants to hide a way and make pronouncements about how kingly he is, but he doesn’t want to do anything. This would be the perfect time to step out, be busy, visit his wife, and cover for the King. Where is he? Hiding behind his wife like a coward. He wants Harry out there keeping calm, carrying on like he always has. This is why William is, all of a sudden, open to reconciliation on behalf of the nation.
Wank wants Harry to do the work he refuses to do . Notice how they would take Harry back but no mention of Harry wife and children. F these gaslighting heartless a-holes . And I bet Kate would be oh too happy to see Harry . At least then she stands a chance of someone remembering she exists.
That is what I read in all of this “come back” scribbling.
“You” come back. Not “she” and the kids.
And by now even the dumbest hack-writer in the UK should have noticed that Prince Harry is deeply, passionately, proudly protective of his wife and children.
What do they expect him to do? Drag his precocious family back to an island where people dream of pelting his wife with feces and putting down his children? Without a word of protest coming from the “royal family” who wants him back?
Yeah, dream on…
Sometimes I think the royalist British are childlike and have no critical thinking. They’re out of their minds if they think Harry will go back without his wife and children.
“Harry, come back I don’t want to work !”, Prince William probably.
This was a long time coming, I think we can all see this is so performatively fake and shows instead how the institution is desperate with Charles and Kate’s hospitalizations and William refusal to work, lmao.
You had so many chances and you kept fulmbling them, too bad. Now they’re afraid people will start calling them out for their uselessness and laziness, and it will happen more and more.
For his own safety and mental health wellness Harry needs to stay far, far away from his toxic incandescent brother. There is no upside to reconciling with Pegs. Live your free life Good King Harry.
Oy Billy balls up, just admit you and BCH face fkd up you treated Megan like trash after spending your whole life useing Harry as a human Sheild and now you realise that without Harry by your side, YOUR not up to the job and neither is your wife (is she staying your wife?)
Your taking time of from a job that you can’t do and using barbie as an excuse, but billy people are not happy and you know it! Harry was alway the better man, and by christ Megan is the better woman, and there in lies the problem. Megan is everything you want in a wife, but she is Harry’s, you have inaction barbie so suck it up and tell your friends to keep Harry’s name out of their mouths. The only time I want to see you and Harry together, is YOU turning up in montecito, knocking on the door and waiting to Grovel out an apology to both of them
William is outraged that he is expected to take on extra duties, and has stomped off in refusal to meet anyone else’s expectations of him. If you go back and look at him on the “Let’s remember Prince William & Kate’s disastrous Jamaica tour in 2022” post, the fact that he hates his life is plain on his face in every single photo.
I suspect that after Charles dies, William plans to abdicate the throne and go off somewhere to enjoy his riches in private life. If his kids are all still minors, I think he will abdicate for them as well. He has been livid for years that Harry escaped with his freedom. William wants to snatch that freedom for himself. Maybe he finally blew his top with Kate and told her that regardless of a divorce or not, she would never be queen and this is why. I could see that sending her into a mental breakdown.
William cannot declare his children out of the line of succession. Nicholas ii of russia abdicated for himself and his son Alexis but that was in very extraordinary circumstances
Harry is gone and he’s not coming back. There’s no way he’d risk Meghan and the kids. Deal with it, royal rota.
Still trying to set up Kate as the reason for Sussexit, William? Right at this moment is a bit tacky.
The institution does NOT need Harry at all! If he were integral to the continuity of the institution they would NEVER have let him leave in the first place.
The British media is the one that needs him to return so they can fill their tabloids with content. They are the ones counting Sussex popularity, money and bathrooms.
Harry, Anne, Edward and the rest are not needed for the institution to continue. The BRF will not even allow the media to trail Edward and Anne on their foreign trips because these pointless trips are created to justify Anne, Edward etc receiving money from the royal pot.
The institution does need Harry. He was central to its plans of making William seem like a sane hard-working next king. I will always feel that Harry’s leaving was the one thing the Grey Men didn’t plan on–and eventually couldn’t stop. They still think guilt-tripping him with duty/family/patriotism/ etc. is going to bring him back because that is how the GM have been running the RF for centuries. That’s why all the endless leaking from the palaces and general fear and loathing.
Where on god’s green earth do these people come from??!! People like this utter excrement-receptacle, tomsykes….he simply opens his orifices and swallows, then regurgitates all the shidt from the palaces and clearly believes we see him as anything else but a laughably pathetic excuse for a sentient being.
Literally millions of folks from all over the world have read Spare. Many millions of such folks are from the C’wealth where, even if we dont care about and dont follow the lives of the royal parasites, we have been inevitably aware of them because they intersect with our lives intermittently.
However, since 2016 when M joined that family, millions of us began paying close attention. We immediately saw exactly how they have managed to con royalists over these many decades, into believing theyre somethng they most decidedly are not. And we immediately saw the misogynoir and targeted bullying of M coming from every level of that society and it wasnt until the letter from the 72 cross-party-lines, female members of parliament that any official rebuke was made.
We will never forget.
So where does sykes get off, tying to act as if no one has read Spare; as if no one believes, not only what H said in Spare about Bully’s psychopathy, but also which has been reinforced thru documented evidence supplied, over these many years, by the very same folks like sykes and his fellow poison-pen occupants of the vipers’ pit where they live and have their being.
H said loudly and clearly in both Spare and subsequent interviews that while a reconciliation with his father and brother is something he desires, there are conditions which they must meet before he will entertain any such reconciliation talks. And foremost among such conditions are:
– an apology to his wife
– an acceptance of accountability
-he wants no part of the Institution.
Ive seen where poison-pen sycophants like sykes have tried to sell the idea that, knowing there will be no apology from chucky and bully and no acceptance of accountability, H has taken those preconditions off the table,
BWWWWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
It is why sykes could be so barefaced as to write vomit-inducing tripe like the suggestion that H would play along with bully begging for a for-the-cameras-only pretense at reconciliation.
The trouble is, if Pegs works more, if he’s more public-facing, his deficiencies and ineptitude are harder to hide. He isn’t fit for the throne, and it’s becoming more obvious. KKKhate’s hair and fashion dominate whenever they appear together, it’s a dependable distraction. His handlers fear that alone he cannot field questions or be trusted not to make some huge public “gaffe”. This is an open secret.
Something big is on the horizon. I can’t imagine what, but my spidey senses are tingling. The next few weeks and months will be riveting!
Beverley, but he’s always more relaxed and personable when he’s alone. That doesn’t mean that he won’t say something he shouldn’t, but I think if the grey men would give him some phrases to use when needed, he could get by reasonably well.
That’s why all of this is so stupid. He’ll be King and it doesn’t matter whether he does the job well or not.
William should either do the work to reconcile or stop releasing BS like this.
Makes him look very bad.
I find all the speculation about a reconciliation and Harry’s return, what if this or that, then this or that, if only ad nauseum really amusing. I suppose it fills columns but it has no basis in reality. Making plans A, B and C and thinking they have anything to do with Harry’s plans or goals is magical thinking. I don’t think anything will induce Harry to come back to the fold
Well, if Charles wants Harry to return to the fold, he will definitely come back! Harry is so open to reconciling with his father and brother, and according to him “the ball is in their court”. But, Charles and William don’t want Harry or his family back.
Yeah, gonna have to disagree. I don’t think Harry wants to return to the fold. Whatever that even means.
Harry wants to reconcile with his father and brother, not the King and Prince of Wales. He said clear as day no hedging when asked by Anderson Cooper if he thought he would ever be a working royals again. NO. I have my own personal thoughts on whether or not a relationship with his family would be healthy given that they don’t seem to admit any fault, but that’s his family not mine. He’s been pretty clear though The relationship that he wants to save is the personal not the professional as a member of the FIRM.
@JAIS @DEE(2) — Harry doesn’t want to return as a full-time working member of the royal family, but he said in his interview with Michael Strahan that if his father asked him to do something to support the Commonwealth in the future, that idea is of course on the table. These were his words in January 2023, and I don’t think he changed his mind, especially since in all his promotional interviews for Spare he always repeated how sad it was that his family didn’t accept half-in and half-out plan.
Maybe a car chase changed his mind. Or maybe how they have behaved since the Spare interviews, taken Frogmore, etc…. That interview was a year ago.
Bottom line is we dont what he thinks now. However I do believe he would only do what is in the best interest of his family-his immediate one-M, A, and L
William does not want to reconcile with Harry. Not unless he leaves his wife, kids and returns as full-time de-facto heir while W takes all the glory and does none of the work aka the person H was before M showed up. W also will not be admitting any wrongdoing. Tommy can write this fanfic all he wants but it’s not happening. Neither brother is budging on their stance so this little dream is moot.
Translation: we absolutely NEED the shine H&M can provide, so pull your lower lip out of its pout and turn to the proverbial stiff upper lip instead, bucko. Otherwise, we ALL go down the drain.
I keep remembering that Harry did not once acknowledge KHate during the walkabout during QE2s epically long funeral exhibition. It seems he did interact (minimally) with Wont. I remember when they went to be seated and Harry looked to Wont to get KHate out of the way so that they could sit. He didn’t once look at her.
KHate is the peacemaker? I wonder where this article came from. I don’t think it came from Wont, so who is behind this? After everything they’ve said KHate did (recollections may vary, etc.), why is someone trying to stir this pot?
Harry did his duty by his grandmother, and wanted to continue to do so, but when the rejected his half and half, that was the end. Harry said that he and his wife are moving on. He doesn’t expect accountability from the institution. He couldn’t ever return to England without his family, and he could never subject his family to the hatred and vileness of the BM and the classism and white supremacy that is an integral part of the realm. Lucky for the Sussexes that they made as clean a break as they could. It they were half-in half-out, their hands would be tied at every turn so that they could not make a living for themselves and their lives would be a complete misery. Harry would eventually still have to choose between his family and his inherited “duty” but it might be too late to make as big a success of his independence as he has, and to do the great work that he does and will do- both he and Meghan if he finally rejected working for the firm. It is a blessing in disguise, the rejection is ultimately Harry’s salvation.
I’ll call it now, when it comes to Charles and/or William and the Sussex family, if it doesn’t happen in America it’s not happening.
“Never waste a good crisis, right?” Wait? What? Feels like consequences have found One Pint Willy but reads like royal rota is struggling to make their bills!
Peg and Buttons were given KP apartment because of Buttons’ interference with H’s (and other royals) lives not because of the “brothers’ bond”.
Hey! BP, KP, and Peg have a flipping meeting and get your messaging on point! H and M are NEVER returning because you pack of fools have been emotionally abusing and terrorizing them for over FOUR YEARS! Y’all sh!t the bed….clean it up yourselves.
Sorry for this rant but these articles are 🤬
This makes William sound like a fake, opportunistic POS. Notice how he still hates Harry but we’re supposed to believe this is an offer Harry can’t refuse? This is such BS, and incredibly offensive. William is cartoon villain terrible.
The Sussexes should send them this Taylor song:
We are never, ever, ever getting back together
You go talk to your friends, talk to my friends, talk to me
But we are never, ever, ever, ever getting back together
Like, ever
Sign Harry , Meghan, Archie, Lili, Doria, Guy, Pula & Mamamia
I’m always struck by how much that leader photograph shows for anyone who has eyes to see. At that penultimate moment only one person is at peace. It’s right there on their faces what each is thinking. Poor Harry is so hurt, Kate is wishing she could while Will is hoping she won’t. While cousin Meg gives the world a practical lesson on “pretty is is as pretty does” and the wonders an absolutely clear conscience will do for one’s skin
Now they are saying that William will return to work as soon as he makes sure Kate is getting the right care.I think Charles is panicking with 3 royals out of actions. Plus people might think they are irrelevant. Plus Charles can’t stand Harry and Meghan getting any publicity at the moment.