Chloe Sevigny on New York: ‘Everybody’s in Lululemon and has a f–king dog’

True story, I’ve always found Chloe Sevigny sort of annoying and full of herself, but the general ‘90s nostalgia has made me reassess her. Like… maybe she genuinely is very cool and sort of misunderstood? She should get credit for her commitment to independent film and working with up-and-coming filmmakers. She should get credit for truly loving fashion and celebrating fashion. She should get credit for being an underrated – and even underappreciated – actress. Anyway, I’m here for the Sevigny Revival. She currently stars in Feud: Capote vs. the Swans, where she plays CZ Guest, the famous style icon/designer and writer. To promote the show, Chloe recently chatted with Rolling Stone about style, reality television, late-motherhood and more. Some highlights:

She doesn’t watch the Real Housewife shows: “I have never watched a single episode of a single Housewife. I don’t know who any of them are or any of their things going on. Didn’t one of them do something for a college application? [she was thinking of Lori Loughlin of Full House] Oh, she wasn’t a Housewife? Shows how much I know. OK. I’m not really much of a TV person, period. I used to be really into Project Runway, but this was pre-baby, pre-husband, single life. I’ve never watched a Kardashian episode. It’s been a while.”

Whether she has gossip-heavy lunches with girlfriends: “I used to have these girls’ nights where I’d only have girlfriends over and we’d drink martinis and talk sh-t, but that hasn’t happened as much now that the small person is always around my house and never leaves. [Laughs] One of my New Year’s resolutions was to start carving out more time for friends.

Her infamous New Yorker profile by Jay McInerney turns 30 years old next year: “It was so odd to be written about before you were even famous for anything, you know? That was the hard part about it for me: I didn’t really understand why it was happening. In retrospect, I think it’s interesting to follow a girl who’s coming into her own, but at the time I didn’t feel it was justified. I was like, “Why do you even care?” I was like, “Why am I even doing this?” [Jay] promised to buy me this dress and my father read The New Yorker.”

Having a baby at 45, during the pandemic: “It’s amazing just to have a baby. I didn’t think it was going to happen to me, and then to have this thing… I can’t imagine life without him. And like I said, he just never leaves. He’s always around here. I had a doctor that specializes in these “high-risk” pregnancies, and there was a pressure to induce for the sake of the hospital staff because if you induced you could get a Covid test, and then the nurses and the hospital staff would feel more comfortable if you were negative, which is so crazy that that was something that was being encouraged. It’s such a complicated thing to talk about in the press because it’s such a personal thing. I hope people will be happy that it happened for me, but I also don’t want them to think it’s the be-all and end-all. I even have friends that were like, “I have a great career. If I didn’t have a kid, then it would have been fine.” I was like, “What?!” Like, wow. But I had tried other avenues and not had luck with them, so to naturally conceive at that age is kind of a miracle.

The best advice she’s ever received: “I don’t really have an answer for that. I think there are things you learn as you go along, like comparing and despairing and how unhealthy that is, and running your own race, and they’re all truisms but feel trite to say out loud, so I’m always kind of ugh.

Style advice: “Style is so personal. There are people that say, “Less is more,” but I don’t know if that’s necessarily true. I think whatever is true for you and makes you feel best.

Her friendship with Natasha Lyonne: “We carve out the time to see one another. She came away with me for my 49th birthday recently. We have a similar attitude toward certain things about life and the business. We met when we were both roommates with Mike Rapaport. She was his roommate in L.A. and I was his roommate in New York, where we were both living with him for free even more than being roommates. He introduced us and we were very like-minded.

Whether she was boxed into doing indie work or whether she made that choice: “I think it’s a little bit of both. Early on, it was by choice. And later, I’d kind of dug my own niche that I was then boxed into. I do like to think that I’ve maintained that across TV as well. I like working with, dare I say, auteurs — Ryan Murphy, Portlandia, Louis C.K., Russian Doll, and even Big Love, to an extent. Doing these TV projects with strong showrunners and writer-directors. But as far as studio pictures, I don’t know where those are. Most of my work has been incoming calls, and a lot of that has to do with living in New York and not L.A. My father died when I was 20 and I never wanted to be far from my mother.

The change in street style: “Now, everything is intermeshed. When I was younger, you could tell who was a punker, who was a hardcore kid, who was into hip hop. And now, everybody looks like they’re just into fashion. It’s hard to dress in a way that identifies you in a certain rebellious milieu. I imagine it’s harder for kids to feel like more of an individual, I would assume? I don’t know.”

Whether New York has become a city for the rich. “Yeah. The athleisure and the dogs are taking over, and that’s really unfortunate. Everybody’s in Lululemon and has a f–king dog and it’s driving me crazy. I’m sorry, dog lovers. There are too many of you. I’m not going out to clubs in Ridgewood so I’m sure it’s there somewhere, but I’m not experiencing it. I hope there are places for people to go when they want to. I miss the megaclubs and the accessibility. I would like to know that they were there [in Manhattan] and not in Ridgewood, which seems very far. At the same time, the city seems closer as far as going out to other boroughs with Uber. We would do car services and it was harder to access areas because of subways and buses not going to certain areas.

[From Rolling Stone]

It’s kind of crazy to think that “New York is a city for the rich” complaint has been happening basically since Rudy Giuliani was mayor, so for 25 years, there’s been this constant argument of “everything is so expensive/unliveable/not cool/not artsy.” But yeah, I believe that “everybody’s in Lululemon and has a f–king dog” is the current thing. Her story about Michael Rapaport is completely wild too – Rapaport has a place in New York and a place in LA and he let two young actresses crash with him in each place? Then he introduced them, knowing that they would get along? As for her indie work… I think she probably was boxed in, but it’s weird that no big-name director was ever like “hey, I bet Chloe would be great in this big-budget movie.” I wonder if she was really never offered anything like that.

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  1. sparrow says:

    I’ve literally got in from walking the dogs. Lululemon jacket. No! Rural England, tho. Hope that puts me into a different bracket.

    • swaz says:

      We went to St Barths last summer. While having an ice cream cone in a little shop of the main street I counted about 13 women wearing Lululemon belt bag. I counted because I was wearing one too 😍😍 so it’s everywhere.

      • sparrow says:

        That made me laugh!! I’m always in this kind of wear because I can’t drive. Come rain or sunshine I’m in gym kit. I have to walk every damn where. My trainers are knackered.

  2. HillaryIsAlwaysRight says:

    Yes, the Upper East Side, Upper West Side, Greenwich Village, Tribeca is all women in athleisure all day. It’s a status symbol; it shows you’re either married to a rich guy and don’t have to work, or you’re working out so much you want to show off your body. My only complaint about all the dogs is that people seem to be forgetting to pick up after them now.

    • Boxy Lady says:

      I used to work at a bank in the NYC area and we had a customer whose husband was SUPER rich. She would request a large amount of cash a few days in advance. When she’d show up, she always came wearing yoga pants. (No dog though.)

      • TOM says:

        One daughter is management at a Manhattan wealth-management firm. She and the others wear very nice athleisure to work, mostly because their clients wear it.
        Same daughter had her baby about the same time as CS. Low risk pregnancies were told to leave the city, if at all possible because they needed all the beds. In other words, these women were told to have their babies at home or find another town to have the baby in. my daughter had maybe two days warning on this. All plans for Manhattan midwife and decorated nursery-gone. She ended up at a friends farm in the upper peninsula of Michigan and had her baby in the rural hospital there. At that time, Covid had not yet reached that area. It’s good she was in a hospital as it became a difficult birth, involving breaking baby’s arm to free him. Happy to say it all turned out okay!

      • sparrow says:

        Hi Tom. Enjoyed reading your story. Glad your daughter’s pregnancy and delivery went well in the end, and congrats to you!

    • Just me says:

      I’m far from NYC and live in a town dominated by a very large university, one that is top-heavy with trust fund babies and the well-to-do from across the country (and world). The uniform is athleisure and yes, there are a lot of dog walkers when I go out for a walk/jog. The rich, same all over?

      • sparrow says:

        What I find amazing is how clean their gym stuff is. And in a way how therefore not used properly it is. I’m in my gym kit thru need – not driving, always on foot, hardly going to be wearing a wrap dress and heels. But I am covered in grub from the dogs jumping all over me, the pavements, getting puddles splashed all over me when cars go by, my trainers are knackered. I’m using sports kit to move, isn’t that the point . What I find funny is women in this gear who wander around town, meeting each other for coffee, never using it. Worse are walkers in immaculate walking boots/shoes. Where are they walking? Or more accurately do they really go for proper walks?

      • Just me says:

        What gets me is that it’s so conformist. Athleisure is just the latest iteration in an acceptance ‘uniform’ I’ve observed every few years around here. I have nothing against athleisure – it can be quite comfy and useful as you stated, sparrow. It’s just how at any given time 95% in my town at the university are all wearing the same exact thing like fashion clones or something. Lol, well I don’t get it but I guess I don’t have to? To each his own as they say ….

  3. Enthusiast says:

    Everyone in Big Love was awesome, and I still listen to the Dixie Chicks theme song.

  4. lanne says:

    She was an indie and fashion darling in the 1990s, which gave her mega street cred back when people were still idalistic about “selling out.” My guess as to why she never went “big budget” is that her look is too fashion-quirky: perfect for Village Voice (I’m dating myself), Vogue, indie magazines, but she wasn’t going to pull boys from Nebraska to the theater, a la more conventionally beautiful/sexy women who did the Maxim photo shoots in the 2000s.

    I remember reading Kirsten Dunst saying that fashion gave her the money to live on so that she could do the indie film work she wanted to do. For blond, thin, white women, that was a way to avoid the Hot Girl Getting Rescued While Shit Blows Up career pigeon-holing of Hollywood. Chloe definitety benefitted from that path.

    I’m glad that she’s been able to work on her own terms over the decades–I hope more women will have those types of opportunities, and that those opportunities to be opened to more than just thin blond women.

    • sparrow says:

      This is an interesting read. I don’t know enough about her to comment in proper terms. What you say has given me a good background in terms of where she sits in the culture of this period. I’ve seen a few photo shoots, years ago. And yes it was in Vogue.

    • WaterDragon says:

      I have always admired her for her fashion sense and individuality. I remember when she was on “Finding Your Roots”, she came across as a genuine person, not someone who was performing as is sometimes the case. She had a very interesting background that she was surprised to find out about. Her paternal eighth great-grandmother was a Fille Du Roi. (King Louis XIV of France gave her eighth great-grandmother a dowry to move from France to Canada in 1670.)

      Her father was French-Canadian but the family was unaware of his background. She was moved to tears about her 8th great grandmother’s challenging life. She was surprised to find out that she had lot of Sevigny relatives in Quebec.

      I am a dog owner, but I totally agree with her that city dog owners should pick up their pet droppings. It is the “gente decente” thing to do.

  5. Lynn says:

    Consider me Team Annoying & Full of Herself. I find her full on insufferable.

  6. Chelsea says:

    Her work in Brown Bunny may have affected the trajectory of her career.

    • Ameerah M says:

      Eh – if Christina Ricci could star in Buffalo and be okay I don’t see why Chloe couldn’t have gone on to do big roles as well. But I think all of the young actresses should have stayed away from anything involving Vincent Gallo – blech.

  7. RMS says:

    I’m going on an old lady ‘get those kids off my lawn rant’ now. I CAN’T with people wearing workout clothes all day every day. Even WORSE if they actually got sweaty working out in them and just keep walking around all damp and funky. I was living with friends during the pandemic when I got VERY sick with cancer. Despite being tortured with drugs, on a walker and exhausted all the time, I still showered, dressed nicely, put on jewelry and makeup every day. EVERY. DAMNED. DAY. Part of it was my conviction that medical staff at the cancer center would be loathe to kill off someone so stylish. A large part of it was the psychological warfare I was playing with myself to NOT GIVE UP. But the friend I lived with? Same 3 gross workout outfits in rotation all day every day. Usually still janky with sweat after her morning peloton sessions. Something happened during the pandemic with self presentation where I think I lot of people permanently stopped giving a hoot. OK, rant over, going back to peeking out from behind my front curtains…

    • Torttu says:

      I agree! People are more stinky and wander around in pajama pants.

    • HeatherC says:

      When I was in treatment, I always wore make up (helped cover the facial petechiae from throwing up) but leggings and a tunic shirt. But not just any leggings. The brightest most cheerful ones I could find. Or graphic ones, my favorite were Wonder Woman and Nightmare Before Christmas. They were always clean (I was hardly working out those days) and tidy.

      During the pandemic I was in scrubs and I appreciated the people who could make the effort.

  8. HillaryIsAlwaysRight says:

    Does anyone else remember the interview Michael Rapaport gave on the Howard Stern show a million years ago, where he said Natasha Lyonne trashed his apartment and even left poop on the floors? Because she was a heroin addict and so out of control. He was irate. I hadn’t seen her in anything for years, and then she got on OITNB. I thought, good for her getting her life together. Now she’s even on Old Navy ads.

    • lamejudi says:

      I absolutely remember that interview. So happy that NL has rebounded, recovered and is finding new success.

  9. Beverley says:

    She was my favorite character from Big Love. She was a mess!

  10. Ameerah M says:

    Casting directors often have no imagination so I could totally see her not being offered a bid budget film role. They often cast based on what they have seen you in before. A Director may have requested her and the studio could have vetoed it. Happens all the time. Since she was an indie girl they may not have wanted to take the “risk” box office-wise. Which is unfortunate because I think she would be great in a big budget extravaganza. I like Chloe. She’s a true NYer and it comes through.

    Also – I love that yellow dress and yellow heels with the red lipstick and bag as accents.

  11. SIlverPoodle says:

    I’ve always found her annoying, now I actively dislike her. “f-king dogs” ??? No, just no.

  12. TikiChica says:

    Dog owner here. She can go f*ck herself.

    • sparrow says:

      Yes. I feel the same way. I love dogs and wouldn’t be without mine.

    • original_kellybean says:

      I agree. I feel the same way about children that she does about dogs – everyone seems to have them.

      I have two dogs that I love so much. Okay, I am not in NYC but, yeah, she can go f*ck herself.

    • Just me says:

      Giving her the benefit of the doubt …. perhaps she is talking about just being trendy and not actually dogs. I have had dogs at various times since I was a small child and we currently have a canine companion. I agree with the Charlie Brown quote, “Happiness is a warm puppy”!

    • Kirsten says:

      Srsly? She can not like dogs. People can have different feelings about things and it’s fine.

      • sparrow says:

        True. I wouldn’t say go ***k yourself, perhaps, and she can not like dogs, but it just brings out the bad in us dog lovers. Perhaps because they are so loved and key to our lives. original’s comment about how she feels re kids. I thought it said “I feel about MY children the way she feels about dogs..” I was thinking, woah, that’s honesty.

    • AnnB says:

      Sorry, unpopular opinion but I get what she’s saying. I don’t live in NYC but another east coast city. Way too many people got dogs during the pandemic that have absolutely no business owning dogs because they are unwilling or unable to train them. Also, there are way too many folks in my apartment building, which is made up of mostly studios and smallish 1 bedroom apts (550-650 sf), who own really large dogs. I’m tired of listening to yappy dogs all day.

      As the comments revealed, dog lovers have gotten super entitled.

      • Normades says:

        Absolutely agree with you AnnB. You can seriously take your dog more places than children now days. I don’t think dogs belong in restaurants or bars.

    • Lucy says:

      I love dogs! But I live in NYC, and some of the dog owners in my neighborhood are unbearably disgusting. Walking my kid to school in the morning requires navigating carefully around dog poop, and I’m always scared she’ll step in it and get made fun of at school if I can’t get it all the way off her shoe. A few bad dog owners are seriously ruining it for the rest of you.

  13. MissF says:

    Damn, I guess I’m pedestrian for having a poodle and wearing my ancient groove pants. Count me in for finding her tedious and irritating

  14. KFM says:

    It’s not so much that there are a lot of dogs, as that the people who own said dogs don’t train or socialize them at all so you’re walking around with ankle biters, lungers, etc. and their owners don’t give a crap. Also the crap. Guess what they don’t pick up?

  15. Sass says:

    I wear athleisure most days because I work from home and my work is pretty physical, plus I work out while at home, but on weekends I prefer to have fun with my outfits. This whole past week I didn’t work out and put on “real clothes” and I miss it! That said I have two dogs and I have always found Sevigny to be pretentious, she seems to play one role and that’s the bitchy mean girl. She also looks like a bitchy mean girl I went to middle school with and never grew out of it so maybe that’s why 🤣 hard to imagine she’s friends with Lyonne but I guess every friendship needs balance.

  16. Artemis says:

    I’m not a Chloe Sevigny fan and found most of the interview meh, but she is right that NYC has soo many more dogs and soo much more dog crap on its sidewalks these days. It got way worse 2020 onwards because lots of people got a pandemic pet. Don’t know why people are getting offended unless they live in NYC, own a dog, AND don’t pickup after it!! I’m dodging literal piles of poo around here!

    I’ll probably get some hate, but I do think there’s too many people with poorly trained dogs in a very densely populated area, and it is making the city worse. I’ve encountered poorly trained dogs in the subway, in the grocery store, even at a clothing store. NYC has bigger problems but the dog poo is not making it better.

    • Sass says:

      @Artemis I think that is more than fair. I agree about the irresponsible dog ownership. I have enough poop to clean up, I don’t need to worry about someone else’s dog’s shit on my shoes!

      • sparrow says:

        Artemis and Sass. I agree. Dog owner but when in town I carry poo bags. I scrape at the pavement to get the stuff up. The worst I had was a woman in a park with a massive dog who did a massive shit on the main runway. She walked off and I ran after her. First she pretended nothing to do with her dog! Then she made out she had no bags and she had to get to her car to find her stash. Before I could give her one of mine she’d left, pronto, dragging the dog behind her. I shouted at that she was disgusting! I had to pick it up. Who wouldn’t. There were kids everywhere, rolling around on skateboards and toddling about.

      • Sass says:

        @sparrow omfg she pretended he wasn’t her dog?! 🤣🤣🤣

      • sparrow says:

        Not quite, Sass, but the blame’s on me. I am typing nine to the dozen today and typos abounding. She pretended the poo wasn’t from her dog, not the dog wasn’t hers. But picture it (if you will/want ugh!) there was a huge pile of shit sitting practically under her dog. And she had been standing there, watching her dog do it and where it landed!! I’ve got to give her credit, I could NEVER pretend that the poo wasn’t my dog’s, and that I was off to get bags. She was practically running. I shouted “you’re disgusting, you’re a health hazard!”, with people watching me, like I was a loon!

    • Mel says:

      Absolutely right about the dog crap. All these people got dogs and they let their dogs crap in the middle of the side walk and they don’t clean it up. Just nasty.

  17. Margot says:

    Love the yellow dress on her!

    There are also way too many dogs in Toronto since the pandemic. Huge increase in dog crap everywhere.

    Also agree about how there are fewer teens/tweens dressing as the goth, the punk, or whatever alternative style these days. They all want to wear the same thing!

  18. ML says:

    Dogs are wonderful and more people realize that when their owners clean up after them. I hate the poop, but dog owners are chiller due to having a fur baby to care for.

    Edit: mental health issues are on the rise here, and owning and caring for a dog is incredibly helpful is what I mean by this. Seeing people with dogs makes me happy.

    • Artemis says:

      I’d love to live where you are! Where I am, dog owners seem way less chill and more entitled frankly. It’s a shame because I love dogs but I’ve realised I’d much rather never have a dog than have one and be a poor owner. They’re a lot of work!

  19. Mel says:

    New Yorker here, yeah, people were Lululemon but probably more in the crowd she’s around. Lululemon is so expensive, most of us aren’t running around those. As for the dogs, a lot of people got dogs during the pandemic, for loneliness or something that would make them go out side and get some exercise. I’ve run into her, she’s tiresome.

  20. J.Ferber says:

    She looks better and better with every year. I have her perfume and it’s delightful!!! I’ll buy it again.

  21. Arhus says:

    She is super cool and I love her.
    I agree with there being just too many dogs! Around me there are arpartment buildings where it seems like everyone has dogs.. then there is fake grass in front where all the goes let their business go and it SMELLS SO BAD! There is not a lot of rain to wash it away and the sun just bakes it.. ugh. And I love dogs!! Just too many of them in cities.

  22. Jilliebean says:

    Lululemon means you’re rich? And a dog?
    That’s a load of baloney

  23. bachy says:

    Like Chloe and her brother, I was also raised in a strict Catholic household in affluent Darien, Connecticut. Although we never met there, she reminds me of a lot of the girls/women I grew up around. Artistic, stylish, refined, sarcastic, edgy, slightly masculine. I later met her at a street fair in LA before she was married, and she flirted with me until she realized I was gay. It’s a story I’ve used to pay for my supper a few times. Would also see her occasionally at Whole Foods, when she was wearing the long, Big Love hairstyle. I love her because she transports me back to childhood.

  24. L4Frimaire says:

    The Lululemon thing is real here on the west coast. I’m not really a dog person and they’re everywhere here too, especially when shopping. My teenager was into Lulu for a hot minute because a lot of the privileged kids at her high school are into it. I showed her the pricing and told her it makes her look like some 30something SAHM, so the obsession has cooled. Their stuff is just ok and don’t get the hype,but I’ve worked for similar brands so don’t care.

  25. Normades says:

    I live in Europe and the only time you would wear work out gear is if you were actively working out. I
    I enjoyed this piece on Chloé and would love to go to her house and drink martinis and talk Shit.