I’ll be blunt: only morons think that Prince Harry “losing” his British security case is bad news for the Sussexes. It’s not bad news for Harry and Meghan, who are safe in Montecito with their private security. This case was all about Harry putting as much as he could on the public record. This was about Harry wanting some kind of accountability for the decisions made to yank his family’s security. This was about Harry pointing out that something really fishy happened with his mother’s security and they were trying to do the same thing to him. And now that Harry has “lost” his case, all that means is that Meghan and the children will never have to return to the UK and Harry will spend less and less time there too.
It’s also clear that Harry managed to get some really interesting, inside-baseball stuff on the public record too. Not only did the NYPD write a letter in support of the Sussexes and vindicate their claims about the May 2023 paparazzi chase, all of Harry’s communications with Ravec are now public too. You can see him advocating for himself and pointing out that his family was at “a great security risk” than Diana because of “additional layers of racism and extremism.” He pointed out repeatedly that if something happened to Meghan or their children, the institution would be held accountable. He was clearly furious in 2020, a fury which is now being mocked in the Telegraph:
Prince Harry’s fury over the decision to remove his right to taxpayer-funded police protection could not have been more plain. Having been repeatedly told that the Government would no longer fund a security team for him and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, he demanded to be given the names of those responsible.
The Duke of Sussex insisted that Sir Mark Sedwill, then the cabinet secretary, share the identity of the person who had opted to put them in a position of such vulnerability and risk. If the depth of the Duke’s anger was not made clear through his determined pursuit of legal action against the Government, his choice of language in newly released emails spells it out.
In a letter sent to Sir Mark on Feb 10 2020, he asked who would put him in “a position that no one was willing to put my mother in 23 years ago”. He added: “And yet today, with greater risk… with the additional layers of racism and extremism, someone is comfortable taking accountability for what could happen. I would like that person’s name who is willing to take accountability for this choice please.”
But for all his demands, the Duke’s fate had already been sealed when he announced a month earlier that he was stepping back from royal duties. And despite the criticism and the stamping of feet in the intervening four years, nothing concerning the Sussexes’ security arrangements has changed.
They’re calling him immature and emotional because Harry’s family yanked his security, putting him, Meghan and their children in mortal danger. How dare he be angry about the very real danger we’ve put him in! He’s such an a–hole! As I said, none of this is a loss for Harry. Ravec, the Windsors and the royal establishment look absolutely bonkers for what they did. They also never intended for any of this to get this far. All of the calculations made in 2020 were done with the express purpose of forcing the Sussexes to return OR forcing the Sussexes to divorce so Harry would come crawling back. Or worse, frankly. The way everything has played out over the past four years was never part of the Windsors’ plans or calculations. They intended to f–k around forever and never find out.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
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- Prince Harry departs The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 28 March, 2023. He is part of a group suing the Associated Newspapers Ltd (ANL) in the High Court over phone hacking allegations.,Image: 765696129, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng / Avalon
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- Prince Harry The Duke of Sussex arrives at The Rolls Building – Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 6 June, 2023 to give evidence as part of the Mirror Group newspapers (MGN) phone hacking trial.,Image: 781720787, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng / Avalon
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- Prince Harry The Duke Of Sussex departs The Rolls Building – Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Wednesday 7 June, 2023 as part of the Mirror Group newspapers (MGN) phone hacking trial.,Image: 782000590, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng / Avalon
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- Prince Harry The Duke Of Sussex departs The Rolls Building – Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Wednesday 7 June, 2023 as part of the Mirror Group newspapers (MGN) phone hacking trial.,Image: 782000626, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng / Avalon
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- (200310) — LONDON, March 10, 2020 () — Prince Harry and his wife Meghan Markle leave Westminster Abbey after attending the annual Commonwealth Service at Westminster Abbey on Commonwealth Day in London, Britain, March 9, 2020. (Photo by Ray Tang/)
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Even the BM are drawing the line between Di and PH’s security risks. If anything were to happen to any of them now, the world will question even more what goes on in the UK and the RF.
I think it’s so reckless of the British Media to be making fun of Harry’s security and safety. Life is strange, what if it’s a member of the working royals that’s next faced with a security threat 🙄🙄🙄
The RF is remarkably stupid about security in general. Remember:
1. Somebody got into the Queen’s bedroom at Buckingham Palace
2. Queen Anne’s motorcade was attacked, her bodyguard killed and they tried to kidnap her
3. Prince Charles had an assassination attempt where his security jumped offstage and onto the shooter and left him completely exposed, alone on stage. It’s actually used as an example of what not to do.
Yep @equality if this actually looked bad for Harry and Meghan ALL of the brit press would be talking about this but they aren’t. They don’t want to bring attention to the fact that there are legal documents that prove Charles intentionally endangering the lives of the Sussex family every time they traveled to the UK after 2020 by providing inadequate security. EVERY visit had inadequate security. The judgment even states the Sussexes had to cancel visits or forego bringing their children due to the inadequate security in the UK.
How can the press sell Charles as the loving family man after that? How can they stop people from thinking he did the same thing to Diana after that?
All these so called journalists would be the first to scream and rant if strangers were chasing their spouse and children down hunting them in public and private spaces.
They do. After she gave a “reaction” to Oprah’s interview with H&M before it even aired and she was rightfully called out, dumb Vickie Arbiter cried and wailed and said she lost her eyelashes over her family’s privacy being invaded.
There are people in prison, for their threats against Meghan, Archie, and Harry in the U.K. I’m glad it went this way, because Harry was too generous in asking to reimburse the U.K. for appropriate security.
It is what it is, Harry has protected his family, and we all can see how many measures he took to make sure his Mother’s fate wasn’t repeated.
When he said, “I am my Mother’s son”, he really meant it.
I’ll tell you what, Meghan knows how to hold her head up high. She looks dignified in even the scariest situations.
That picture of her at the Commonwealth service……wow she is just dignity personified while the Royal Family acts like such petty jerks. So glad she is far away from that sh*t pit.
That photo of the four petty people shunning Harry and Meghan is giving 7th grade mean girls.
These people are royals who behave like this on public knowing that they’re selling “happy family”? No wonder the queen was worried.
Agree Harry is exposing the recklessness his birth family employed by removing security and he is having this all documented. Apparently this birth family thought they could yank his security and it would all go away, wrong he is going after the names and people responsible for making this decision much to their angst. Having this all on the record shows his birth family for who they are a shady bunch of folks who does not give a hoot about him or his family. Proud of his persistence.
He is clearly pointing out that if anything should happen to him we know who did it. All Chuckles the King has to do is ok his security but he won’t. This is them trying to do to Harry what was done to Diana but Harry is not going to let it happen and he clearly got what he wanted on the record.
This is Harry saying that there isn’t 6 degrees of separation between Chuck and the RAVEC board who ripped their security away.
Chuck staged a soft coup in BP in 2017, replacing Her Maj’s personal secretary Sir Christopher Geidt with his creature, crawling toady Edward Young.
Edward Young was on the RAVEC board when Harry’s security was cut off.
“It also emerged from the judgement that the late Queen Elizabeth wished for Harry and Meghan’s security to be upheld.”
Well if she didn’t want it pulled, there was only one other person with that kind of power in the final years of her reign that could have ordered it: Harry’s own father Charles.
Harry seems to also be making a quiet inference that this isn’t the first time his father has done this to a family member he decided he was done with.
I think he knows or suspects Chuck’s role in her death.
Edward Young had a personal axe to grind with Harry and Meghan. Not only did he deliberately fail to secure a proper role for Meghan, he was responsible for the decision to strip the Sussexes of their security, interfered in the half-in/half-out discussions, and kept Harry from visiting the Queen. He’s a nasty piece of work.
Absolutely, Where’s My Tiara!
he knows. there’s a heartbreaking section in Spare where he describes visiting Paris with his brother, and they asked their driver to take them through the tunnel… twice. they’d already read the official investigation reports and both decided the reports couldn’t possibly be true.
The rats at the Telegraph have no shame to mock something so real and by the grace of God the Sussexes made it safe to America. They are all going to reap what they sow for their cruelty to H&M. One good thing IG 2027 can not be at that island. Will Harry ever gets those names?
I previously posted a comment re: the “rats at the Telegraph” which appears to have been eaten by spam filter. I’m just curious if the $1.2B the Abu Dhabi group gave to Lloyds to get Telegraph owners out of hock is going to wind up in the category “Stuff the British Stole.” Supposedly there was going to be a debt for equity swap for the financiers, but britgov-britmedia consortium managed to get stuff delayed in front of their Ofcom lapdog. Per Reuters “The publications [Telegraph and Spectator], some of Britain’s oldest, are widely regarded as important indicators of views in the governing Conservatives.”
The owner of GBNews channel (which is not a news channel, but registered as ‘Entertainment’ with Ofcom) is rumoured to be the front-runner in the purchase of The Telegraph.
So who was that person? EY at Charles’ request?
This is what I wanna know too, @Jais. Did he ever get the name(s), on the record or off?
Bingo.
It was definitely EY — he was on the RAVEC board at the time and deliberately didn’t pass on Harry’s request to reimburse the Met for his security expenses. He’s a despicable person.
Here’s the judgement. You can read the unredacted names yourself. As for the parts they played, you can try to fill in the blanks and redactions. Recall the “broken printer” at Sandringham from ‘Spare.’ Why is UK relying on retired judges? Dunno.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/AC2021LON002527-RDoS-v-SSHD-7-Dec-23-Redacted-Open-Approved-Judgment.pdf
Speaking of filling in blanks and redactions, T&C has a story about Harry and Meghan wanting to bring the kids to UK in September 2022, referring to p24 of the doc. H-M sent the required 1-month notice, but concluded it wasn’t safe to bring the kids based on what RAVEC allowed. Forever “spare” me all the cowmanure and horsebiscuits about Chuck olive branching his “family.” The doc does not reference their trip for Platinum Jubilee, but we already know Betty pulled out all the stops to get them there safely because she actually did value them as family.
The Royal family knew exactly what they were doing their plans of getting rid of Meghan started from day one the moment the press were leaked about her from Kensington Palace. The Royal family and the British establishment try every trick in the book during the wedding then they swore their marriage wouldn’t last longer than three years than Meghan becoming pregnant that when the royal family took the gas off the pedals. Charles and company knew the threats Harry and Meghan were getting they knew the danger and just didn’t care they thought so little of Meghan and Archie that they assumed that if something happened to them they could used that to further their own Pr . The dangerous chase in New York was done with the sole purpose of either seriousness injury Meghan and Harry and Doria or at worse killing them. The British media continue to downplay the danger that they helped put on Harry and Meghan is not surprisingly they know what exactly their doing their trying to gaslight the public into believing that Meghan and Harry are liars or being dramatic.
I do believe that it’s good Harry has gotten this all on record, especially considering what happened to his mother. I also believe that’s it’s terrible that he lost this battle in court. Essentially, it makes it much harder for him to return to visit his own country, it makes it next to impossible for Meghan, and Archie and Lili are also being forced away from part of their heritage. I don’t think that’s right.
Someone mentioned on Twitter that Cant is toast if she were to become divorced from PoW as she would be handed down the same blow of non protection.
Agreed.
Again they use infantilizing language to make people ignore that Harry is fully matured and makes reasonable points. Harry was right in Spare to point out that Diana’s death locked him in the public imagination as a little boy, but it’s another layer of ick to see the infantilization used as a cudgel. He was victimized by being made to march behind his mother’s coffin, and that very abuse is used to continue healing new abuse on him. They may be in Montecito, but the press won’t ever stop using them as scapegoats.
You are so right.
Agreed!
heaping new abuse – I need to do better proofreading!
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LOL at the British Media framing this as some sort of loss for H and M. They are absolute idiots.
I think everything happening in the House of Windsor (and specifically House of Wales) right now is a true karmic response from the universe.
I only wish bad things for these snake people.
Also…Meghan in that green dress is my FAVORITE.
100%—one of her absolute top 10 looks. I wasn’t even following the story closely when the photos of the two of them rolling up to that event came out but it caught my attention bc they are just so badass together but also that look on her is everything!
Can’t imagine this goes over well with the public since they are subsidizing security for pedo Andy. Even if it is published as being paid for by King Charles it is still derived ftom public funds. It also exposes again and again the RF’s bs fed to the rota (UK tabs) about the importance and closeness of their family.
This is the same public that thinks they aren’t paying for William and Kate. Somehow, somewhere, there is an entire disconnect in England about the sovereign grant. They think the Wales are fully earning their way…because of the duchy they can now pull money out of, hand over fist.
The press is too stupid to see what Harry is really doing with this court case. He’s exposing the inner workings of the Palace and RAVEC and making sure that is on record that he did ask for security.
Yes this IS a loss, but not for Harry.
Stealth Harry has caught them all in the disgusting Web they have woven.
It’s now on record that the king, Harry’s father, Charles the fking last I hope, went against his mothers wishes for her grandson and his family and withdrew their security detail. He tried to force them back from Canada to a life of servitude in the UK, but he hadn’t banked on Tyler Perry. Then, when that failed, he and his chums at ravec thought they would punish Harry even more by withdrawing his protection in the UK. They thought that they could keep Harry in exile until he begged to come back,yet again they failed. They underestimated stealth Harry again. They forgot that the devastated little boy, who walked behind his mothers coffin, grew to become a battle forged warrior, with a strong sence of right and wrong, and he knew this was fking wrong. So Charlie you have been found out, William you have been found out and so has the British press. They think crowing that Harry lost his case looks good. No, no it doesn’t, it again raises the specter of how and why Diana died and why they are trying to unalive, Harry, Megan, Archie and lillibet.. Because there is no other reason it can be. Is he the son of the king, YES brother of the next and uncle of the one after that if the monarchy is still around, yes, is Harry veteran, yes, we’re there threats against Harry and Megan’s lives, yes
So if it’s not a case of wanting to unalive them, what is it?? ++????
Mary Pester, I can only conclude that they don’t want the Sussexes in the UK. So, why is the UK going to put a bid in for the Games in 2027? Do they think that would fly? Do they think if they can keep Harry out then Bully Idle can take his place? I really would like to know why they are bidding for the Games.
It did cross my mind that someone has decided that the best route to getting the entire family together back on British soil is the IG, and gives them ample opportunity to plot and execute a plan of serious harm. I don’t trust those vipers at all.
@saucy&sassy, they won’t get invictus in the UK. They will get the anniversary church service because that is Harry honouring his grandmother as well, but the games are another matter. The only way they will get the games is if Harry is petitioned by the British contingent, he may then consider it, and Harry wouldn’t be worried about security, because if you could see the ring of steel put around Harry and Megan by the troops, it’s a thing of beauty. Dusseldorph was a prime example. The crowds were there and the troops as well as the police were among them, but no one wanted to harm them, they just wanted to see them
Thanks, Mary! I wonder if UK troops would be allowed to do that?
Harry won even though he technically lost. Harry is creating a paper trail that makes his father and brother look monstrous. Their symbiotic relationship with the tabloids and complete disregard for the physical (and mental) security of Harry and his wife/kids has been exposed. The lawsuits have exposed: Will’s “secret” settlement with the tabloids, exposed the levels of corruption within the tabloids (hacking/who was involved/had knowledge of illegal activity), that security was recklessly removed in 2020 and that Harry/his family are not guaranteed proper security (even when offering to pay for it out of pocket) when they return to the UK. The truth is out there and will bite William and Charles the more unpopular and off-the-wall the royal mess becomes.
More importantly, Harry is creating a *public* paper trail that Charles, William, and the Firm can’t cover up.
Harry wants all of this garbage dragged into the sunlight. He wants the Firm to not be able to pull strings in the shadows.
It really is a love letter to Meghan, Archie, and Lili. He’s never going to stop, Diana must be so proud.
Think about all of the articles saying Charles was extending an olive branch to Harry, here’s proof they were all complete and utter lies.
And they wonder why so many of us do not believe one word about Kate and her disappearance.
Charles and the royals are the original Lying Liars who Lie.
Let us also pause a moment to remember the fire in South Africa that would have taken Archie’s life as an infant, had his nanny failed to be as watchful as she was.
I am not sure the link works on here so I’ll just say there’s an article in The Independent where it specifically describes how the BRITISH POLICE assigned to the Sussexes intimidated everyone involved into silence about the incident, saying it would reflect badly on South Africa.
That incident haunts me. And I’d imagine it haunts Harry and Meghan, too.
They knew what they were doing when they extricated themselves and their children from that den of vipers. Thank goodness for Tyler Perry.
It haunts me too. If they hadn’t had a wonderful nanny who was entirely into baby wearing, it would have been so much worse.
They are so dumb to think any of this madness makes the Sussexes look bad. The world is watching specially now and see how they treated a veteran who happened to be their own blood because of who he married. Part of the death threats against the Sussexes have something to do with Harry family behavior towards them. Thank goodness H&M individually had a lot of important people to help them get on their feet otherwise things could have been different for them.
Ugh me and my typos. Kate not Katr. 🙄
We can’t afford to forget anything, @Quitecontrary. I’ve been reading about the BRF since Duchess Meghan married into this mess. I’m old enough to remember much about how Diana’s story was being “edited” even while she still was living it. Her character was assassinated daily, especially once she started becoming involved with brown skinned Muslim men.
There unfortunately was no social media for her to speak to people directly back then, so she had to get what she could out in a few candid interviews and some videos released posthumously. Even so, the damage has been done. I still see people trash talking about her online. And now even her precious oldest son is a party to erasing her surviving words. Her own son has become one with the institution that took not just her actual life but is trying to reframe her lived reality into something it never was.
From Diana’s time to now, there have always been little suspicious incidents, so easy to forget. But when remembered and put in their place, they paint a cohesive picture of a ruthless enterprise that will stop at nothing to control even the smallest most insignificant elements that could possibly feed into public opinion.
Thankfully, Diana’s got another son who is doing what needs to be done to get every movement of The Firm documented officially. The information presented in court is immutable and accessible for posterity. Even The Firm can’t overwrite it now.
Through his court cases we can see what THE Queen (not that cheap imitation that goes by the title now) tried to do for him and why he and Meghan were comfortable naming their precious baby after her while the rest of us thought she was a “Petty Betty.” Through his court cases, we can see what his father tried to do to his family and their security while trying to present to the world at large the face of wounded benevolence.
By showing us in court what this family and its toxic minions are capable of, Harry is also vindicating his mother. Anyone who can look at these machinations against Harry and still believe Diana was paranoid is truly naive. And those painting her that way are truly pushing an agenda.
I will no longer blame Betty for what happened to H& M
I agree with most here that even though Harry lost the case, in the wider context he won. This is an American style strategy that countries with the Westminster system don’t see a lot of. Lawsuits aren’t necessary just about money. They are about getting information, they are about making public shitty things that happen so they don’t happen again. So yeah, on this score Harry partially did what he set out to do. It’s on record.
One thing the BRF doesn’t want is blood on their doorstep. So I’m surprised security isn’t given in the UK. Diana died in Paris and then similar circumstances at least happened to her son in New York. I’m not claiming conspiracy, it’s just interesting.
I disagree: this IS a loss for Harry. He wants and is entitled to visit his home country, safely. I hope he wins on appeal.
Harry is a clever man getting all the facts out in the open .
No one forgets how Diana died .
Now he has shown proof that they were trying to do what happened to his mum , to he and his wife and son .
Well done Harry .
All I know and think the royal family and their media minons hands are all over this security issue-Thank God Harry is making a record and putting things down on paper so noone can say he did not want security in the UK-the invictous games being played in the UK would be a nono in my book-if my wife and children cannot come to this type of event without worrying about their lives in the public sphere-they can all go to hell-if these so called royalists and media shitgibbons read some of these statements they should know the Sussex family’s safety is paramount to everything they do and where they travel to-I saw someone write yesterday-if anything happened to Harry or his family it would not be a problem for the monarchy in the long run- Harry absence would not cause any hardship the UK royals-God keep the Sussex family safe from all evildoers.