Anonymous Oscar voter: Emma Stone has more range & ‘I don’t get Lily Gladstone’

Here are some photos of Emma Stone and Sandra Huller at the big Louis Vuitton show in Paris on Tuesday. The LV show was crazy well-attended, because Louis Vuitton spends a metric f–k-ton on brand ambassadors as if they’re collecting Fashion Girlies and trapping them into wearing unflattering clothes. Emma and Sandra are both Best Actress Oscar nominees this year, and I feel pretty comfortable saying that they’ll both turn up at the Oscars wearing Louis Vuitton. But here’s my question: is Emma Stone going to pull it out? I’ve gone back and forth on this in the past six weeks or so, when Emma’s Oscar campaign ascended just as Lily Gladstone’s stalled. I thought about it a lot this week as I’ve covered some of the “anonymous Oscar ballots,” and from the (admittedly) small sampling, it does not look like Gladstone is a sure thing at all.

The latest anon ballot comes from IndieWire, and the voter is seemingly a casting director. The voter is a big Barbie fan (voted Barbie in the #1 slot for Best Picture) and this person had A LOT of thoughts about Best Actress. Some highlights from this ballot:

Actor in a Leading Role: Every one of these actors has been working for a long time. You could vote for any of them: Bradley Cooper [“Maestro”], Colman Domingo [“Rustin”], Paul Giamatti [“The Holdovers”], Cillian Murphy [“Oppenheimer“], and Jeffrey Wright [“American Fiction”], because they’re all doing career-level work in completely different ways. They’re all wonderful actors. And it’s lovely in this particular case for Colman and Jeffrey to finally have a certain amount of recognition. Paul and Bradley obviously had recognition before…In the end, I chose Cillian Murphy. He has such a demanding role. What he pulled off well in this role was the combination of the arrogance of Oppenheimer, the brilliance of Oppenheimer, and then the moral dilemma and weakness of Oppenheimer. Cillian was the highest bar to meet in this group.

Actor in a Supporting Role: These are wonderful working actors. I’m going to leave Robert De Niro [“Killers of the Flower Moon”] because he’s been nominated so many times. I watched “Barbie” again because I love Ryan Gosling in that film. He’s not gotten a lot of recognition. But these roles are so different. You can’t compare what Robert Downey Jr. and Ryan Gosling did in their movies. So much value was added by these actors, and Mark Ruffalo [“Poor Things”], in a career performance. I went with Downey because he played against everything that people expect from what they’ve seen him do before, but he was always capable of; he’s a great actor. He got derailed somewhere along the way. And he’s come back. I don’t think he’s been given a lot of opportunities to play dramatic work. But this has brought attention to the dramatic work he’s capable of.

This person voted for Emma Stone for Best Actress: I voted for Emma Stone [“Poor Things’] because it’s an out-there performance and [because of] the level of physicality. And she’s probably the youngest one in this group. The choices that she’s making play against all expectations of what people might have thought that Emma Stone might be, based on her earlier career. She’s got a lot of range for a young actress.

They loved Sandra Huller though: And Sandra Hüller. “Anatomy of a Fall” is a great script. But that whole film hinges on that performance because it’s completely about the character’s ambiguity. That’s what makes that film. Did she do it? Did she not? She didn’t try to make you like her. No.

The voter didn’t understand Lily Gladstone’s whole deal: “I don’t get Lily Gladstone. I’ve seen her in other things, and this performance didn’t stretch her past what I’ve seen her do in other places. I’ve watched her on “Reservation Dogs.” I didn’t see a lot of dimensions to the character [in “Killers of the Flower Moon”]. Some of that is the script; it would have been a far more interesting movie if it had been told from her perspective. The character should have been aware because her whole family was dying off that she was being poisoned. It doesn’t make sense. And clearly, he’s killing her, and he’s a bad guy, and yet she falls in love with him. I don’t think she brought complexity to it. If she had been in Supporting Actress, then it would have been different, because it is a supporting role. It’s not a lead role.

[From IndieWire]

This voter also went with Da’Vine Joy Randolph for supporting, just as every anon voter has done. Da’Vine is a shoo-in, a total sure thing. I think RDJ is as well, although a lot of people sort of wanted it to go to Mark Ruffalo (I don’t think Ruffalo gave a career-best performance in Poor Things, but he was utterly delightful and very weird). For the all talk about who did not get a richly deserved nomination, Willem Dafoe was absolutely snubbed for his work in Poor Things.

As for what this voter says about the Best Actress race… I think industry people watched Poor Things and realized that Emma made a meal out of that role and she really showed off her chops in a way, ahem, she did not in the other film which won her an Oscar. I also think the “showy” nature of Emma’s role in Poor Things is tough to put against Lily’s quieter performance in KOTFM. That being said, if Lily loses, it’s mostly about “category fraud.” I even agree with this voter – it was a supporting performance. That’s not on Lily, she did what she could with the script, but that script was AWFUL. (Still, once again, if I was voting, I would go for Huller.)

Photos courtesy of Backgrid.

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  1. HillaryIsAlwaysRight says:

    Wow these are terrible outfits on these ladies. And they could have at least given Emma Stone pants that aren’t too long and that wouldn’t wrinkle. Maybe if the top and bolero jacket were paired with a skirt of the same fabric, I would hate it less. Just too busy and disjointed.

    • Smee says:

      And the colors are off between ES’s top and pants. It’s all I can see. The sleeves remind of something she wore in the movie.

  2. Brassy Rebel says:

    Should I or should I not share my controversial opinion again? Wtf, why not? The only award Poor Things and Emma Stone should win is Worst Eyebrows. And she showed off a lot more than her acting chops. I consider this movie a disaster for true feminism.

    • LTA says:

      I’d argue a disaster for true feminism is misogynistic takes like these. Thankfully most people are judging her performance based on its astonishing depth and technical skill, not on her eyebrows and nude scenes. Also this opinion isn’t as “controversial” as you seem to think it is. Women have been judged by their looks and choices of sexual expression for centuries. So this is actually the epitome of “basic.”

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        I did not go into the content of the movie but that’s what’s offensive, not her looks or nude scenes (those were just gratuitous). What I object to is the reduction of a woman to her sexual expression and equating true liberation merely to sexual liberation. This movie struck me as a male sexual fantasy. If you got something valuable from it, congratulations. I was deeply offended. As a woman ♀️. And I won’t even go into the implied pedophilia. That’s a whole other can of worms.

    • Nic919 says:

      Her character was controlled by men at all levels and she acted up and swore and was super open about sex. It was clear this role was written by a man because it was a male fantasy version of what a liberated woman should be like.
      This role is also as much Oscar bait as Bradley Cooper in Maestro, but he is getting flak for it in a way Emma Stone is not.

      • LTA says:

        She was controlled by men…until she wasn’t. As for the “implied pedophilia” I won’t even get into that.

        Also, it’s ok for films to be provocative and disturbing. The people decrying the film solely based on the premise of Bella’s original “baby brain” are probably the people that would love to see Nabakov’s “Lolita” banned from libraries and bookstores.

        Finally, the vitriol levied at Emma Stone for taking on a role in a movie that some people find morally reprehensible is really telling. I don’t remember anyone throwing tantrums when Javier Bardem won an Oscar for the role of a psychopathic serial killer in No Country for Old Men. Or like…any man that has won an Oscar for playing a morally “questionable” (and that’s a generous term) role. Maybe if Bardem was naked in the movie while committing his murders there would have been more of a backlash.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        I get it, LTA! You think this is a great movie and not sexist or misogynistic at all. I strongly disagree. Yes, it’s certainly okay for films to be provocative and disturbing. Truly great films usually are those things to a certain extent. But should people who find a film racist or homophobic just be quiet because it’s also provocative and disturbing? Because my saying that I find this film misogynistic and detect a concerning element of pedophilia in it doesn’t mean I want to censor it, let alone censor Nabokov’s Lolita. It’s just my opinion. But I don’t think we should not voice unpopular opinions about films and other forms of popular culture, any more than we should hesitate to criticize racist and homophobic works because they are popular and we might be accused of trying to censor difficult material which makes us “uncomfortable”. My final thought is that this filmmaker who directed Poor Things achieved his goal because he certainly wasn’t setting out to make an overtly misogynistic film. He knew that would never fly in today’s egalitarian culture, just as an overtly racist or homophobic film wouldn’t work today. I can admire his cleverness, even brilliance, in disguising his very misogynistic view of women in beautiful sets and costumes and in the idea that women achieve true freedom and equality by having lots of sex with lots of men without ever having to think about inconvenient things like contraception. And, oh, by the way, women are really living their best lives when they’re at the mental age of twelve or so.

  3. Soni says:

    I’ll admit I agree about Lily. While she has a nice presence, I find her flat and monotone voice to be tiresome.

  4. NikkiK says:

    The problem with Emma Stone is that she shouldn’t have won an Oscar for La La Land. Isabelle Huppert should have won that year. In my mind Best Actress should be Sandra Huller followed by Lily Gladstone but seems it seems to be down to Emma and Lily – I’m hoping Lily wins.

  5. Lake Lady says:

    I really love that the anon voters are loving Da’Vine Joy Randolph. I first saw her in The Lost City and she was amazing! Stole the show. Hope to see much more of her

  6. Twin Falls says:

    “And clearly, he’s killing her, and he’s a bad guy, and yet she falls in love with him.” I was perplexed by this also.

    I haven’t seen Poor Things so I can’t comment on Emma Stone’s performance but Sandra Huller was phenomenal in Anatomy of a Fall.

  7. Kirsten says:

    I agree that Lily’s was more of a supporting role (and also that that story should’ve been told from her perspective; that movie was a hot mess). It’s likely that given some very strong female performances in both the lead and supporting categories this year, she was nominated in the one that would give her the most visibility.

  8. Deering24 says:

    “I don’t think (RDJ) has been given a lot of opportunities to play dramatic work. But this has brought attention to the dramatic work he’s capable of.”

    Hmm, beg to differ. Downey was wonderful in Chaplin–and in True Believer, an unfairly-forgotten excellent thriller with James Woods. He was the only thing worth watching in Less Than Zero. And he was in The Singing Detective remake. He proved he had dramatic chops early in his career, so a lot of younger fans never saw that–or the older ones forgot that in the wake of his Iron Man success.

  9. chameleon/comedian says:

    I disagree that Lily’s was a supporting role. Yes the narrative isn’t from her perspective, because as the viewer we are aware that De Niro and DeCaprio’s characters are behind the murders and that Lily is being poisoned, while she doesn’t know these things. But she’s the emotional focal-point of the movie, the Osage character that the story follows throughout as her closest family members are murdered. Her walking out of the room at the end and then Scorsese reading her obituary in the epilogue are emotional gut-punches.

    I do agree it’s maddening that she doesn’t she that DiCaprio’s character and the other white men around him are bad guys and she marries him, but the movie’s based on a true story – these things happened in real life. The Oscar voter is talking about it like it’s fiction.

    • Onemoretime says:

      This is what I don’t get! Do people not realize that KOTFM is a true story, and Lilly’s character was a real person. Saying how could her character fall in love with a bad guy who was poisoning her is ludicrous. If the person she is portraying fell in love what was she supposed to do! Not stay true to the actual events!