NYT: Getty’s editor’s note ‘fueled another conspiracy’ about Princess Kate

Last week, the Washington Post did a pretty even-handed piece about the conspiracies and confusion around the Princess of Wales’s cancer-announcement video, which was released on March 22. WaPo spoke to AI experts, most of whom said that the video was likely legitimate, although WaPo did speak to one Pentagon-contracted firm which said that the video had a “high likelihood” of being “manipulated with AI.” WaPo also got Kensington Palace on the record to say that accusations of AI tampering are “factually inaccurate.” WaPo’s larger point – and one which I strenuously agree with – is that Kensington Palace’s credibility is in the toilet after lying for months and manipulating multiple photos, so the palace and the BBC should do more to validate the video and ease concerns. It feels notable that no one has done anything like that – instead, BBC Studios has gone radio silent and no one has heard anything from KP in almost two weeks.

In the credibility vacuum, it was curious this week that Getty added an editor’s note to the palace-handout screencap photo from Kate’s video. It was basically a disclaimer saying: “This Handout image was provided by a third-party organization and may not adhere to Getty Images’ editorial policy.” “May not” is doing some heavy lifting. Well, now the NY Times has a piece called “How an Editors’ Note Fueled Another Kate Conspiracy Theory.” Some highlights:

Why did Getty add the disclaimer? With disinformation spreading fast online, at times amplified by hostile states, some social media users were primed for skepticism. A note from Getty Images beside the video announcement, released on March 22, said it “may not adhere” to its editorial policy and fanned more conspiracy theories over the video’s authenticity. There is no evidence, according to researchers, that the video is a deepfake, and agencies routinely attach such notes to content given to them by third parties. With images easy to manipulate, researchers say that news agencies are being transparent about the source of their content.

A standard editors’ note which only appears on a handful of photos: That disclaimer is not unique to this video. A spokeswoman for Getty Images said on Wednesday that it added a “standard editors’ note” to any content provided by third-party organizations. Other agencies also use such notes routinely for clarity. It was not clear when that policy came into practice, and the spokeswoman declined to comment further. Online sleuths, however, pointed out that the same note was added to a clip provided by a government agency of the bridge that collapsed last week in Baltimore.

Was the video a deepfake? “I don’t see any compelling evidence that it’s a deepfake,” said V.S. Subrahmanian, a professor of computer science at Northwestern University who has researched deepfakes. Professor Subrahmanian ran a copy of the video through a system of 15 algorithms his team has been developing to detect manipulated videos, and he also manually examined it with another analyst. Components such as the video’s audio and Kate’s movements appeared to be natural, and technical evidence suggested it was unlikely to be fake. “Context is a very big part of it,” he added. “The bigger context is that it was a video shot by the BBC, who is a highly reliable source.”

The problem with photo handouts:
“[Photo agencies] are very keen not to take handouts and have their own photographers where possible,” said Nic Newman, a senior research associate at the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism. News agencies, however, have concerns about the way public figures, including politicians and celebrities, are increasingly using handouts to try to “control the narrative,” he said. The note was an example of agencies’ efforts to be more transparent with their clients who used those photos, he said, but there was the risk that they could fuel conspiracy theories. “People often take those labels and then blow them up out of all proportion.”

The Mother’s Day photo fiasco: The episode prompted news agencies to look again at their policies, Mr. Newman said, and re-evaluate which sources were trustworthy. “The whole question of whether you can believe what you see is certainly not as clear as it used to be. There is a trust deficit in society, at least in the United States,” Professor Subrahmanian said. “Deepfakes have the potential to widen that trust deficit.”

[From The NY Times]

“The bigger context is that it was a video shot by the BBC, who is a highly reliable source.” One would think, but again, it wasn’t filmed by BBC News, meaning there wasn’t an actual news crew around Kate. This was filmed by BBC Studios, and they still refuse to come out and talk about the filming or even confirm really basic facts about the video (when and where it was shot, what kind of camera was used, how many takes were done). Again, I felt a certain amount of relief two weeks ago when we learned that the BBC had been brought in to film the video – finally, the Kensington Palace clowns brought in mature professionals to manage their messaging. But everything since then has only raised more questions.

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  1. MAX says:

    👀

    • The Robinsons says:

      I guess the BBC is willing to fall on the sword for the BRF. Sad.

      • The Robinsons says:

        The video posted on X of Kate cheezing it up wearing that same sweater and hair style… was taken down. SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE.

    • Persephone says:

      There are also numerous screencaps of the video showing troubling (to say the least) things – like a double row of teeth in her mouth. It’s almost as if the video wasn’t real (AI manipulated)….. /s

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        And the pupil of her right eye, which migrates to the inside corner of her eye, before suddenly jumping back to where it’s supposed to be.

        That was creepy af when I saw it.

  2. Penny says:

    The NYT piece is appalling, just British Royal Family propaganda. The comments section was immediately closed. Only one “acceptable” comment was allowed. Wow.

    • Liz says:

      Penny – that speaks volumes

    • ML says:

      Penny, Yikes! I feel like Trump really revealed the NYT as out of touch and they haven’t recovered.

      Simply put, it’s NOT Getty that fueled the controversy. It’s the Frankenphoto and KP’s actions since. My neighbor made a short video of himself and used software to switch it with (Dutch woman) Olcay Gulzen’s image. Apparently, if you know what you are doing, there is a lot that can be embellished. The Studio that KP used isn’t entirely trustworthy and KP’s own reputation is in the cellar. The NYT should review what they have written.

      • Penny says:

        Agree. I’ve had fun putting friends and family’s faces into the AI app ReFace. It’s so easy. It’s shocking this NYT article basically backslapped the BBC (without even noting it was credited to the BBC Studios arm), yet also took a pot shot at Getty. I wonder if editors will let it stand, too.

    • Interested Gawker says:

      The fact that they can say :

      Kate’s movements appeared to be natural, and technical evidence suggested it was unlikely to be fake. “Context is a very big part of it,” he added. “The bigger context is that it was a video shot by the BBC, who is a highly reliable source.”

      with a straight face is distressing, the “expert” for that other article mentioned the flowers swaying when they don’t move at all this one is happy to be snookered by the BBC banner and say this video is legit with his full chest. Closing the comments is sinister!

      Kate and the children could be in true distress or they could be laughing it up in a tropical holiday spot somewhere, either way KP should be made to provide proof of life for POW, Prince George and his siblings.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Penny, I was aghast when I saw that! The article is incredibly deceiving overall, imo, because first of all, it does not explain that there is an enormous difference between the BBC and “BBC Studios” (I still don’t fully understand the distinction, but I know from reading this site that there is one, and it is not even touched upon in this piece). Most Americans— and maybe most readers not in the UK? — will automatically assume it’s just “The BBC” and assign credibility to it.

      Then, unlike WaPo, they didn’t even bother to include any researchers who DO believe it was manipulated, faked, whatever. And closing the comments after one (fawning) comment? Why are they behaving like the ROTA?

      It’s appalling to see what’s happened to the NYT. They’ve been going downhill fast since at least 2015, but this is unreal.

  3. MY3CENTS says:

    The obvious reason why this might be an AI is that she was surprisingly eloquent and didn’t do jazz hands.

    • Agnes says:

      She was trying to do jazz hands, but she kept them low, in her lap. Her hand movements actually made me think this was real at first. But then I saw the double set of lower teeth in one still. And even reading from a teleprompter, I doubt she could speak that mumble-free. Who TF knows anymore.

    • Dee says:

      She didn’t touch her hair at all either. When has she ever done anything without touching her hair?

      • Lorelei says:

        I saw someone else on here mention the teeth, but didn’t see it when I watched the video.
        Does anyone know approximately when in the video it happens, or have a timestamp or screenshot? I’m so curious now!

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        Just a bit of context on the “double teeth” photo…the guy who posted is a hardcore right wing conspiracy theorist.

      • K-Peace says:

        Persephone— (Don’t know why i couldn’t reply to you directly.) Thank you for posting that screenshot from the video. If anyone can look at Kate’s fake-a.f.-looking face with the extra row of teeth, and still believe that that is a real video of Kate talking….YIKES.😬

      • Interested Gawker says:

        “the guy who posted is a hardcore right wing conspiracy theorist”

        A stopped clock can be right two times a day.

        Two respected American newspapers of record denied “Kate’s” video was manipulated with glaring discrepancies within their own articles. In the Washington Post one expert said the flowers moved. The The guy for the New York Times essentially said the BBC’s trustworthiness recommends the video is legitimate.

        KP has rejected traditional news media, the standard way information about BRF was released to the public and was found to have tried to pass off a fraudulent photo as proof there was no issue with Kate’s ongoing disappearance. If they don’t want scrutiny and want to be believed KP can simply produce the Princess of Wales in the traditional manner, filmed by BBC or ITV news with independent witnesses who can vouch for it having happened. Charles has meet religious and community leaders as well as the random onlookers in the street during his illness and he is far older than Kate.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Interested Gawker, I don’t believe BlueNailsBetty is defending the screenshot. Just giving info. There are SM accounts out there that want to be perceived as SussexSquad accounts to further that the SussexSquad are as deranged as the Derangers.imo

        The double tooth thing is nothing. Redirection at best. That bench video has more than enough problematic issues than double teeth?.imo Getty isn’t questioning the video due to a SM account sharing an image of double teeth?

        The bench video is sus as f*ck on its own.

    • Concern Fae says:

      I tend to stay out of the AI arguments because I’m just not good at analyzing and comparing multiple images. That said, after reading yesterday’s thread, what strikes me is that we could be seeing a genuine filmed statement, smoothed over via AI to cover up her normal pauses and jitteriness. That would explain why the video passes the normal AI tests, but there are still little oddities. Also why they can’t release the original or say who the camera crew was. All of this complicated by the fact that all we have is a heavily compressed video.

      These people are just unable to stop themselves from making things worse, which is part of the reason why I kinda believe this. Someone had the right idea, someone else drove it into a ditch.

      • Lorelei says:

        @ConcernFae, “why they can’t release the original”

        *…days after they caused a literal international incident by releasing a manipulated photo and refusing to provide the original to photo agencies!!*

        Honestly, I feel like their staff must be comprised of undercover Republic employees purposely sabotaging them from the inside because that’s the only explanation for this level of incompetence at this point.

        It was obvious to anyone paying even a little bit of attention that the cancer announcement video would be heavily scrutinized after the MD photo (not to mention the batsh!t Fake Melania farm shop video) and 100% predictable that they’d be asked for the original. Yet they still did it in some convoluted way that prevented transparency. It’s unreal.

  4. Desdemona says:

    I agree..

  5. Dee(2) says:

    I don’t know what other’s think is going on with her, but I will say people have such an interest because KP have been lying and misdirecting. It’s too late for please leave me alone when you’re been caught in several lies. I don’t think it’s accurate to say that most people want a photo of an ill woman to point and laugh, they are pointing out that the people saying just leave her alone have created the situation causing the disbelieving reactions they are getting. I think people try to conflate the two to muddy the water and make anyone pointing out they have good reasons not to trust liars, seem like macabre figures who want some ghoulish photos of a cancer patient.
    ETA- The comment I was responding to was deleted, probably because of the water carrying my comment above mentions.

    • HuffnPuff says:

      👏

    • Just me 2 says:

      The way I look at it is that these people – the direct heirs, are actually part of government as future heads of state. True the royals roles are not tremendously consequential but they are part of government. As QEii said, they “must be seen” at times as a governmental role.

      It’s the same as the requirement for Secretary of Defense, Loyd Austin to have been transparent about his hospitalization, at least to others in government or wanting some transparency about the health of the President of the US (even though US president’s health issues have been covered up in the past) .

      You don’t have to go into every detail but don’t lie. I think the way Charles has done it would have been acceptable. He has shown ‘proof of life’ and left out details but gave enough info for the public to get the gist.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        You make a good point here, and one the UK should have learned back when Winston Churchill had his stroke.

  6. Brassy Rebel says:

    Is that AI expert who says, “Well, it’s BBC so…” even aware that this was not done by the news division? I think a lot of people just assume BBC means BBC news. And the fact that this BBC Studios refuses to answer reasonable questions should not be casually brushed aside.

    • Robert Phillips says:

      This expert ran it through all the computers. And said it wasn’t a deep fake. Did he say if it was edited together. If the background was added in. If her head and body actually matched. There are a lot of other things that could be done to it that aren’t really considered deep fakes. Did anyone ask him that?

      • Lorelei says:

        And no one can question anything in it since they closed comments immediately. WTH?

      • Sunday says:

        Just to be clear, this expert did not “run it through all the computers. And said it wasn’t a deep fake.”

        There is no ‘AI Test Machine’ that you can run something through to 100% definitively determine whether it’s real. This expert invented his own test using a system of 15 algorithms, and used those results plus the fact the video came from the BBC to make his determination that it was “unlikely to be fake.”

        This is by no means an across-the-board definitive test.

        Also, throughout this scandal, “AI” has been used interchangeably to mean a variety of things, which palace pr has used to its advantage to move goalposts so that real questions can be waved away with “sure, they may have edited it a bit, maybe used a green screen, but it’s not AI.” It’s just like Peter Souza pointed out with “photoshop” as the wrong term to use for an edited, manipulated image. “AI” is meaningless in this usage. It’s like how US media used “collusion” to discuss Trump and then republicans tried to use the fact that collusion isn’t an actual legal term to infer that therefore, Trump had not done anything illegal. Whether or not we call it “collusion” or “AI” is a game, we have to push through that to the point, which is that the video was another suspicious media drop in a series of manipulated photos and videos, and all the explanations we’ve gotten fall short of actual confirmation, which should warrant further investigation. It’s that simple (imho).

      • Interested Gawker says:

        ” If her head and body actually matched.”

        I do wonder if this is essentially a video version of the Frankenphoto. That KP utilized BBC Studios rather than BBC News and keeps running to American Murdoch outlets like TMZ to foist propaganda rather than allow traditional news media to relay a solid report of their facts is a huge red flag on top of getting busted for the Mothering Sunday photo released on a SM platform from the start. If other serious news outlets like The New York Times weigh in but simply shrug and “say this is fine” in a burning house we are all being deprived of our right to proper information.

        How much did that clip cost?

        Who was the director?

        Can KP prove a crew really did film at Windsor?

        Can KP prove Kate was at Windsor?

    • BeanieBean says:

      And by claiming that’s the larger context, he turned his analytical brain off.

  7. Amy Bee says:

    I think the question that should be asked is why did KP chose what’s basically the entertainment arm of the BBC to do the video instead of the news division?

    • K-Peace says:

      Exactly, Amy Bee. Kensington Palace’s reputation & trustworthiness went down the drain with all the faked photos/video. If they were filming just a simple straightforward video of Kate talking while sitting on a bench, they would’ve done it with BBC News for maximum credibility. They wanted to end the speculation & gossip, so they would’ve done everything on the up & up, if they COULD. But obviously, they couldn’t. If it’s just a straightforward video, why will NOBODY put their name on the video, vouch for it’s authenticity, or talk about making it?? That’s VERY WEIRD, and there’s a reason for that—a big one. The only answer is that, it’s NOT just a straightforward video of Kate talking; it’s something else.

      This NYT article is nothing but propaganda from KP. Gee, i wonder why they won’t allow comments?

    • Becks1 says:

      I dont think that’s so deep a question – the news division probably would not have allowed for editing, and I think the final product was edited out of several takes.

      • ML says:

        Becks1, When the Dutch monarchs “peak to the people,” they do use the news. Sometimes, like when they announced that Amalia was being threatened and was unable to attend university, they even answer reporters’ questions. Why are the British royals using a studio or even editing this themselves? If a president or prime minister did that it would also be weird.

        Edit: I realize that this sounds harsh—apologies for that. My point is that not using the news division is highly questionable (no matter the royals need for control) and should be noted.

      • Becks1 says:

        oh I think they “should” have just used the news arm of the BBC, but I think the answer why they didn’t is pretty obvious and not that deep like I said – they likely knew this was going to take several takes or involve some editing and so they went with BBC studios. People keep saying WHY DIDNT THEY USE BBC NEWS and the answer is right there. They knew they were going to edit it after the initial recording.

      • Nic919 says:

        Yesterday the engagement video was being discussed and we know it was edited for clarity. Was their engagement video done by BBC News? If so, then it would make this current video seem odd only because BBC News would certainly edit a video to make her speaking seems smoother. What they probably don’t do is really mess around with the look of a video m

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Becks: I could be wrong but I think BBC News did the State Funeral for the Queen. It was found out later that the Palace had control of what was aired rather than the BBC.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nic, that’s a good point. We know the engagement video was heavily edited, but W&K still looked and sounded like real people and not robots FGS.

        But who produced that? I remember there were a ton of photographers for the initial photo call when she walked out in the blue dress with the ring, but the interview was clearly done by one or two camera operators. I have no idea if BBC News was involved.

  8. Cessily says:

    Again their actions confirm to me the video isn’t real. I do not know what percentage if any of it is real but the only reason for the bbc video production employees to not issue a statement, especially with KP having zero credibility. They also need to stop using her cancer diagnosis to act like she was just sainted, having a horrible disease doesn’t make you a good person and her actions prove it hasn’t changed her behavior at all.

    • BeanieBean says:

      I’m wondering if they demanded an NDA from everybody who had a hand in this?

      • Lorelei says:

        @Beaniebean, possibly, but then why did they involve the BBC at all? It was presumed that they wanted the BBC to restore their credibility after the MD photo debacle.

        But then why ban anyone from the BBC (Studios) from verifying anything about it? Nothing they do makes sense! 😣

      • Interested Gawker says:

        “I’m wondering if they demanded an NDA from everybody who had a hand in this?”

        And that is exactly why leaping over the BBC News and choosing BBC Studios is a problem. KP couldn’t get away with NDAs over something like this with straight news reportage. The BBC rolls over for the Royal Family all too often by permitting their final say on edits but news is a different beast to entertainment. There is opportunity to edit for clarity and there should be plenty of ‘B Roll’, footage that was shot but not used in the final piece. BBC News would definitely accommodate Kate needing multiple takes to film a segment or suggest a presenter to sit in conversation to bring her points forward with a professional to help her (and vouch for the fact the interview took place). They gave out there were NOT multiple takes for this video which points to it being fake, Kate never conducted herself with that much polish in her public speaking for such a sustained amount if time, ever.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        @Lorelei – it makes perfect sense to ban participants in the making of the video from speaking about it, if you view it from the lens that they’re still up to their shady sh-t. They *want* the legitimacy that the BBC brand offers, *without* actually being honest about what’s going on. Because they can’t produce Kate, live in the flesh for reasons as yet unknown. Period. They want to present the illusion of being honest and above board; but anyone with two and a half brain cells to rub together (which is two more than any of the aristotwits at KP possess as a group), can see right through their schemes.

        The fact that we’re well into the 4th month since xmas 2023 when she was last seen alive by the public, and no one credible has seen Kate alive since xmas, is still suspicious and disquieting.

        I believe the coverup is ongoing, before our eyes, that it’s directly related to something W did, and that all this nonsense isn’t to protect Kate but to save W from being removed from the line of succession and to “protect the monarchy”. Because public support is so low for these fools that any crime of this scope committed by the heir, would bring it all down. The palaces dismiss the “Not My King” protests as fringe but they’re really afraid of it becoming the majority opinion. And a Diana 2.0 event could make that a reality.

        Folks need to continue to call out the obfuscations and lies. The palaces will continue to panic and screw up, and ultimately reveal themselves in due course. And then there won’t be anywhere for KP or Huevo to hide.

  9. Indica says:

    Keeping in mind I am a cynic. I believe very little without actual proof.

    All the speculation about her health stopped when they said ‘oh, cancer’. No more speculating about what’s wrong, everyone is accused of piling on the ‘poor cancer patient’ as soon as this announcement/video was made. Say anything about the announcement and you’re the bad guy cause ‘cancer’.

    So…. saying cancer solved all! I’m not saying she doesn’t have cancer, I am saying they mangled this so badly it’s going to be studied in PR classes for years.

    • K-Peace says:

      Indica— Maybe i’m a “bad guy” but i really don’t believe that she has cancer. Kensington Palace/Prince William was caught in a lot of lies & fakery, their reputation/trustworthiness went down the drain, and a lot of people were truly wondering where Kate is; there were a lot of “conspiracy theories” afoot. So KP was desperate and backed into a corner. They had to announce SOMETHING that would get the heat off of them and get people to stop all the speculation. Like you said, the cancer announcement made it ALL go away. It was the perfect solution to their problems. The problem is, i don’t think it’s the truth.

      I’ve actually wondered if maybe Kate is deceased, and this is their way of easing the public into her death, with a concocted “She died of cancer.” tale. I don’t necessarily believe that she’s dead, but that’s just one possibility that crossed my mind. I DO think KP is evil enough that anything is possible.

      Whatever’s going on, it’s NOT what KP says is going on. And i just don’t believe a word from their faked A.I. video. I think whatever is going on, it’s definitely something very bad.

      • Indica says:

        I’m going with something either ‘really really bad’ or ‘stupidly trivial like Kate finally left him and they can’t deal appropriately ’cause William is too busy throwing tantrums’.

        But yeah, it’s a mess.

      • Robert Phillips says:

        I agree that she’s dead. Or in that coma Spain keeps talking about. Because it’s not just Kate that disappeared. Where are the kids. Has anyone checked to make sure they are still going to school? Where are the Middleton’s? Even with all the bad PR of their company going under. Does anyone think she wouldn’t be seen going in and out to care for Kate if she had cancer. Yet all we have is a grainy photo of her and someone who looks like Kate getting into a car. We don’t even know when it was taken or where. And it was only a week between the mothers day photo. And the cancer video. She could get it together for the video. And not for a photo. A photo that was just supposed to be her and the kids together. Even being ill. She should have been able to pull it together for one photo. But no. And then less than a week later. She’s out somewhere away from home. And can do the video. That doesn’t make sense.

      • Kingston says:

        @K-Peace
        Agree with everything you said.

        Folks perhaps might consider it a bridge too far to believe that KP/the royals could be so diabolical as to lie abt her hvng cancer just to buy themselves some time to ease the public into believing an upcoming ultimate lie.

        And even tho there are folks who know tht in the history of these people, doing diabolical things was par for the course, we still cant bring ourselves to believe they could do such a thing in this day & age.

        But we wd be making a monumental mistake to think they wdnt.

      • CaptainCrunch says:

        @ ROBERT PHILLIPS When the actual Queen R died, they announced it within hours. No one covers up the death of a mumbling consort. She is neither important or high ranking enough. If she died in some sort of weird way, they would just keep her cause of death private and call it natural causes or some other made up reason. If she was on a coma, it would have been out by now because you can’t keep something that a secrect for very long. Also, the tabloid also lied about Meghan multiple times. How convenient that now they are reliable when it’s some we don’t like. No one else including American tabs (who reported Wills cheating) reported her in coma. That should be a red flag it’s nonsense.

      • Harper says:

        I don’t think she’s dead, but in the interest of fairness I did listen to some of these mediums who are saying her spirit is floating somewhere between the real world and the afterworld. So many of them are getting the same feeling. Who knows?

        What could also likely be true is that she was mentally affected by the coma and she is having trouble speaking or with her physical functions. I think I read somewhere she was in therapy for that–again, who knows.

        However, that would be ample enough reason for KP to hide her or to buy themselves time with an AI cancer announcement until she is recovered fully (if). The cancer announcement really did reduce the speculation of where she is; but at the same time, KP has a history of stealing stories that have worked for someone else. The circus was so loud and unprecedented. I can see KP hitting the panic button.

      • Becks1 says:

        You guys, Kate’s not dead. Come on now. Do we really think Charles would have put out a statement about her cancer if she was already dead?

      • Persephone says:

        @Becks1 Yes Charles absolutely would do that. He’s not a paragon of truth-telling either.

      • ML says:

        I’m here to back up Becks1: CarolE just had a fawning piece written about her where she’s the Mary Poppins savior to the Waleses. Including the famous school runs, as well as sports activities. I believe that she is actually highly involved with her daughter and grandchildren, though I have no idea if William is anywhere near them. She’s not saying that to disguise that her daughter has passed away!
        I agree that KC is also not the type to put in any effort to make it seem like he’s being benevolent to a dead DIL.
        Kate is alive guys!

      • Liz says:

        K-peace – I couldn’t agree with you more 🎯💯

    • K-Peace says:

      Indica— I agree completely with your 2nd comment. I do think it’s a possibility that all of this is from Kate & William splitting up and Kate is either trying to stop the divorce or is trying to get certain stuff from William in the divorce. It’s either that or something horrible has happened.

      • Lorelei says:

        At this point I have no idea if she’s alive or dead, if she’s in England being treated for cancer, or if she’s lying on a beach in Mustique. KP has lied so much and for so long that no one with any sense believes a thing they say.

        What’s getting more distressing is that “respectable” outlets like the BBC and the NYT aren’t questioning anything coming from the palace; they’re behaving like freaking Rota reporters. Why? Especially an American publication like the NYT?

        If legacy media outlets are going to play along like this…the public is well and truly fcked. Not just w/r/t the BRF, which in the grand scheme of things is rather trivial, but in general. There won’t be anything left that we can actually trust. It’s scary.

  10. I don’t believe that video was real. I think if they wanted to get it out there that she is doing preventative chemo than they could have handled it more like Chuckles and had her sit behind a desk say what she wanted and then picked up some of the get well cards she has supposedly been getting and said thank you. Instead they put what is Can’t at some point on a bench in front of a fake back ground of outside in a studio. Of course with all the lies we might not have believed that either.

    • K-Peace says:

      Susan— (about your last sentence) We would’ve believed it if it had been filmed by BBC News, with people putting their name on it and vouching for it’s authenticity, talking about what it was like filming with Kate, posting “behind the scenes” photos of Kate interacting with the crew. And that’s what would’ve happened if the video was real. None of that happened and that speaks volumes. One of the many reasons i’m certain that the (fake a.f.-looking) video is A.I.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Right, exactly. They’ve published plenty of BTS photos of other such events, W&K did some radio thing live & we got photos of that; I believe we got photos of Kate when she did somebody’s podcast; & etc. Squirrely, thy name is Wales.

      • Becks1 says:

        Poster @BQM on here said she knows someone involved with the filming and knew the church where it was filmed 🤷‍♀️

    • Harper says:

      I did a little Googling to see if BBC Studios had been used before by the palaces and we just never noticed. I didn’t find anything but I did see that there are behind the scenes photos of QE II making her Xmas speeches–you can see the mic apparatus over her but just out of the shot. That is the kind of proof of authenticity that Kate’s cance video needs.

      Again, Kate has not been seen since Xmas with anyone other than those who have a vested interest in covering up the truth–CarolE, who I believe would go along with a coverup for cash and/or continued access to George, Charlotte and Louis. And Huevo, who may want the real story hidden for innocent or nefarious reasons.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      A quick google of BBC Studios and AI comes up with a list of news articles about how they are embracing AI and it does seem as if they used AI in some way with this video given all the noted issues and Getty’s note.

      We’ll find out soon enough – Trooping’s coming up and it will be interesting to see if she is there. My money is on that she won’t be but William will and he will appear on the balcony with just the kids.

  11. Fifty-50 says:

    I wonder if Getty will feel pressured to respond. I wouldn’t appreciate it if a step I took to protect my reputation due to very valid reasons was blasted on NYT as the cause of conspiracy theories. A reporter is only as good as their sources—Getty is just saying KP is no longer considered a good source.

  12. Becks1 says:

    BBC Studios isn’t going to come forward because KP issued their weirdly worded statement about AI being factually inaccurate or whatever and William is probably pissed KP said even that much. Neither BBC studios nor BBC News (if they were involved, I know they weren’t) to be honest is going to damage their relationship with KP by saying anything more than that if KP has told them not to say anything else.

    To me, this is the critical part – “The episode prompted news agencies to look again at their policies, Mr. Newman said, and re-evaluate which sources were trustworthy.” This is basically saying that KP is no longer considered a trustworthy source, yet again. Everything they release is going to be heavily scrutinized going forward. Someone mentioned Louis’ upcoming birthday photo (and Charlotte’s) – imagine the scrutiny of those.

    I find this video fascinating at this point because I think people see what they want to see. I am of the view that the video was edited (so that’s why there are no “ums” etc) and possibly in front of a green screen, so that’s what I see what I look at it. I know that people who are convinced the thing is 100% a deepfake/completely AI generated see what they want to see in the video. And some people don’t think the video was edited at all. Who is right? We may never know.

    • Jais says:

      So I get that bbc studios doesn’t want to damage their relationship with KP. I don’t know whether it’s AI or not. But it bothers me that BBC studios couldn’t give Getty enough info, like the originals or even the photographers name. Bc if this becomes the royals new norm of getting info out, using bbc studios as a third source that prevents Getty and other news agencies from even verifying it to their standards, then we’re just in this hazy land of people still questioning its veracity. It’s not a good place to be in. For the public. It may be just fine for KP. If it’s not AI, and I don’t necessarily think it is, then why can’t KP give them info necessary to take down the caption. I have to conclude that they stubbornly don’t want to bc they want to see what they can get away with in the future .

      • caroline says:

        ‘why can’t KP give them info necessary to take down the caption. I have to conclude that they stubbornly don’t want to bc they want to see what they can get away with in the future .’

        THIS! 100%

      • Becks1 says:

        @Jais I do agree with your last comment – that its about wanting to see what they can get away with in the future – but I’ll go one further and say that its also because of what they were able to get away with in the past. KP is refusing to acknowledge that the Mother’s Day photo significantly damaged its credibility and photo agencies are not going to accept their photos or videos without significant scrutiny going forward and that means KP should be ready to do things like provide sources, credibility information about when/where something was recorded or photographed, the originals when requested. That’s how you rebuild credibility over time.

        KP won’t do that for whatever reason- and there are probably various reasons – but I think one of them is that KP has been altering videos and photos for a long time now so they are insulted that they are NOW being questioned.

      • windyriver says:

        “Factualy inaccurate” is such a weird phrase. It being KP, it’s hard to say whether it’s meant to be purposely deceiving, or if it’s just sloppy or stupidity in choice of words.

        That said, it does seem to imply there’s – something – that’s accurate about the video. Haven’t been sure what I’ve thought so far, but I think my final conclusion is, Kate was there for filming. But, so much editing, and yes, likely AI was done later, by whoever, that it destroyed any semblance of validity – or reality – about the video, hence widespread questioning yet again, by Getty and the public.

        Of course, just because I think Kate was present at one point for filming, doesn’t mean what she was saying (or what was coming out of her mouth) is the whole truth either, but that’s a whole other story. And I tend to agree KP is trying to see how much it can get away with; but they’ve done so much damage to themselves, they may not realize/accept how completely their reputation is shot at this point.

      • Becks1 says:

        @windyriver this is where I think people are overthinking it and looking for a conspiracy or coded language where there isnt’ really one. A lot of people were saying “factually inaccurate” must mean that KP is covering something up!!!!

        And to me, it sounded like a first year law student who is trying to sound smarter than they are by using convoluted phrases, or trying to sound fancy by using an unusual phrase when just saying “its not true” would work. Because that’s what “factually inaccurate” means – its not true.

  13. Sunday says:

    So adding to the verbal gymnastics of the WaPo ‘claims of AI tampering are “factually inaccurate”‘ explanation, now we have an expert saying that, for him, context is key and he’s taking the context that the video was filmed by a highly reputable BBC team to contextualize that the video is “unlikely to be fake.”

    The last thing we need are legacy media outlets blindly confirming each other’s work just because of who did it. It’s very reminiscent of Maggie Haberman’s brand of access journalism “Trump says he’s the smartest best president ever” – that’s not very helpful, Maggie, maybe instead of quoting him saying he’s the best, point out why he’s not. We’re getting the same approach here.

    Honestly the big takeaway for everyone should be that even the experts, even prestigious outlets like the NY Times can’t (or won’t) definitively prove whether something has been deep-faked. In an election year that should be terrifying. And we need them to do better than capitulate to those in power in favor of access journalism over truth.

  14. caroline says:

    Two weeks on and people are still talking about the video so I don’t think it accomplished it’s goal – to stop people wondering about Kate. Was BP or KP behind the video because BP are old hands at this sort of thing. (Engagement videos, birth announcements – filmed by BBC news in a room at whatever palace – job done) I’m inclined to think it was KP, so why didn’t they follow the normal playbook? Why use BBC studios instead? Why film in a studio? (possibly) Why not in her home, on a sofa, surrounded by photos (ha!) of her children? This is what I cannot understand. Now we know William didn’t want her to do a video in the first place, so who actually gave the go ahead? I don’t believe Kate for one minute wouldn’t love to show everyone her beautiful home and fabulous surroundings so why didn’t (or couldn’t) she? Is William behind this whole fiasco?

    • Becks1 says:

      They might not have wanted to film her indoors if she’s not where they have said she was. Like the outdoor photo from Mother’s Day – as fake as the people in it are, the setting is very clearly Adelaide (it might have been a fake background, but its clearly a fake background based on a real photo of Adelaide.) You can easily find pictures online of the back of adelaide cottage and see exactly where the photo supposedly took place (obviously knowing they were all added in etc.)

      I think they set this in a fairly generic garden with a fairly generic bench and daffodils to hide where her actual location is. If she’s in Balmoral as some have speculated, that would have been really obvious whether indoor or outdoor. After so many zoom meetings, people are familiar enough with their more public rooms at Anmer and KP that I think they would have noticed if she wasn’t at one of those places. So it makes sense to me that they chose a generic outdoor setting because they don’t want to give away where she actually is.

      Well it kind of makes sense to me. I don’t even know anymore lol!

      • Julianna says:

        The problem isn’t just the fake background and fake loop recorded background. There are many distortions when you look at the video slowly frame by frame which is how they analyze fakes. And her hands blend together. Her teeth become distorted. Even her hands in that picture at the top are not normal. Look at the bottom hand – the thumb and pinky. The light glitches in the background but not on her body and face. The shadows are off. Her mouth doesn’t match her voice and tone in certain spots. So many other discrepancies besides that obvious fake background and bench.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yes, I know you think its a deepfake. I do not.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Wiggington is such a deep-fake in real life that it really does not matter nor make a difference to me if her photos and videos are deep-fakes.

  15. Mary Pester says:

    They lie, they lied about prince Phillip and he died, they lied about the Queen and she died, they lied about Diana and she was killed
    Let’s face it they think we are all muppets who will swallow every line they give us. But will we hell, they are a family of perverts, friends with perverts and adulterers, and no, I’m not lieing or being to harsh. That video is as fake as camzillas smile. Why else is the BBC keeping its mouth shut.? Maybe the next time Billy appears in public we shouldn’t ask where bone is, we should ask who he used for this cartoon of bone as we are thinking of making a new “” Close Encounters “film, oh and can he recommend a new LEADING Lady. I’m just so sad to see that the British media poison has spread to the US.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Mary Pester, is Bone Idle capable of making a video and is refusing? Why did KP go this route?

    • caroline says:

      But Mary P, Egg didn’t want Kate to make a video! He was miles away when it was filmed, remember?! Nothing whatsoever to do with him!! 😂 At least that’s what they want us to believe.. It’s like an episode of the XFiles at this stage…..The truth is out there…..!

      • Mary Pester says:

        @caroline @saucy&sassy, at this moment in time I’m beginning to believe Kate has either gone to that great wiglet palace in the sky, or she’s playing hard ball to get everything she wants.
        Let’s wait and see what happens when and if the children start back at school and where Carol is.
        Billy is of doing Billy things, (or person) I wonder if we are going to see sun tanned Billy??? Either way, things are going to get very tricky between now and school term. The strange thing is, Heather says not even the staff are talking about her !

    • caroline says:

      Ha, Mary P!! Suntanned Billy on the school run?! How could he just go off on holidays when his ill wife is having treatment for cancer?!? /sarcasm/ Question is, what if his poor kids don’t have suntans too? 🤔 I’m not surprised the staff aren’t talking about Kate – she doesn’t pay their wages….
      Hope you’re doing well Mary P x

  16. Julianna says:

    Just look at the 2nd picture from the top of Kate. The bottom hand -her fingers are distorted. That is not a normal hand position. And I say that now because I just noticed it yesterday when it was posted. However, that video I already knew was 100% deepfake. So many discrepancies. I have mentioned so many before and there is no way it’s NOT a DeepFake. Her hands were distorted SEVERAL times in the video when you watch it up close and at one point they blended together with her thumb becoming large. If you look at the picture above the fingers are distorted. Just look at the thumb and pinky. You don’t even have to watch the video in slow motion closely to see it. Also, in one part of the video her mouth motion didn’t even align with or open when her voice was clearly the same tone as the rest of the speech. The background… the loop recorded nature sounds. Her facial movements don’t even match other videos of her. The shadows and lighting are completely off. The background glitches with light but her face doesn’t have the light hit at all. I could keep going on and on. That’s how you know it’s a fake especially when you can’t even trust the source.

    BBC studio went completely silent over it. Nobody has put a name to it. Any other royal photography or video there is a name accredited to the video or picture. Gee, I wonder why???? They literally distanced themselves over this farce.

    DeepMedia detected the BODY & VOICE as AI. And the other “expert” tried to gaslight everyone in that article as saying you know it’s not because the plants “gently swayed” in the background.

    It’s just SO obvious at this point that it’s fake. Even her teeth transformed into a mess. I just can’t believe this. Yes, KP has been manipulating and using AI in the past and gotten away with it. But this is different. Where is Kate? Literally, where is she?

    I am doubtful of the cancer diagnosis. To me, it’s all just to convenient to drop that diagnosis in the midst of all their lies and fraud. They gleefully threw it in everyone’s faces to the point of people apologizing for asking where she was at. And it would also be to convient to use later if she actually happens to die. For example, there are anonymous accounts claiming she has stage IV cancer. On another forum, another anonymous person came out and said the same thing quietly trying to spread it. The daily mail is running advanced staged colon cancer in younger people articles and slapping her picture on the article. Do I believe it… No. I think it’s convenient for KP to spread these rumors.

    There seems to be only 2 things that possibly make sense in the midst of this circus. That Kate and William are divorcing. William pushing her out and Kate not cooperating. Or something is seriously wrong with Kate. Im seriously beginning to believe the latter. I do not believe the cancer diagnosis at all. I do think it’s convenient for them to use it no matter which direction you look. Anyway, my thoughts are starting to be firmly planted towards something has happened to her.

    • Liz says:

      I’m of the same mind Julianna. They tried a few things to quell the peasants curiosity which only fuelled it.

      I think something dire happened (not necessarily cancer) and this is paving the way for a ‘sad & sudden deterioration’ announcement.

      • Julianna says:

        Exactly Liz. Each and everytime I try to think away from that I end up right back at that scenario. They have went to great lengths of fraud and lying to try and show us she is fine. It’s just insane. This video being fake with a convenient cancer diagnosis has me really thinking something has seriously happened to her.

      • Dilettante says:

        That makes three of us.

      • K-Peace says:

        Liz— I said the exact same thing today. I really am starting to wonder if the purpose of this “cancer announcement” is to ease the public into Kate being deceased. In this theory, her condition will take a turn for the worse and they’ll eventually announce her death. That’s what all of this is pointing toward, more & more. I mean, Kate hasn’t been seen since Christmas, and look at the lengths they’ve been going to to provide fake photos & videos of her in the media! It’s obvious KP is covering up something MAJOR.

    • K-Peace says:

      Julianna— Yes! Thank you. It is indisputably a deepfake. No question about it. People need to look at the stuff you point out because you’re right. My computer graphic artist friend, who works with a lot of A.I. technology, analyzed it and said that without question, it’s A.I. created. I can’t believe that more people don’t see all this stuff and realize that the video is A.I. That’s NOT Kate in the video.

      • Julianna says:

        @K-Peace YES. It is literally indisputable at this point. I think some are hesitant to see it because they don’t understand AI at all. And the Mothers Day photo was obvious and sloppy. This one, they did try to make sure it was done right despite the obvious fake background and sounds. But they at least took their time generating her speech, syncing her mouth and her hands – but not good enough. If you slow it down frame by frame you can see all the discrepancies. Besides that, the obvious glitching of the lighting etc. I think they think the video was just “edited”. But editing a video doesn’t distort the teeth, hands and mouth. Just looking at the picture above with her hands – the bottom hand fingers are distorted. It’s SO obvious the entire thing was AI generated. I literally cannot believe this really. It’s absolutely insane.

    • Underhill says:

      Maybe Kate is like Tinkerbell– she won’t exist unless we all Believe with all our hearts, and applaud loudly and continuously.

      • Interested Gawker says:

        I think we’ve gotten farther afield than J.M. Barrie now, I think we’re in Angela Carter and Hillary Mantel tag teaming a gothic Bluebeard story territory!

    • Underhill says:

      KP is lying, spinning. I believe it will end up that they will announce her death from cancer eventually, and we will not know the truth for a long time, if ever. We used to think the truth about Diana would come out when William was king, but it won’t.

  17. LisaE says:

    At the very beginning of the palace’s Kate video, notice her glitchy robo-eye? It would not be so if the footage was legitimate, am I right?

    • Julianna says:

      Yes. You are right. And there are so many more discrepancies throughout the entire video. And even in the still image of her above where her hands are showing you can see the bottom hand is AI.

  18. QuiteContrary says:

    Whatever the truth of this video, KP is irredeemably untrustworthy now.

  19. crazyoldlady says:

    honestly – I’ve reached peak Kate – I don’t care about it, or frankly – her. Whatever her reasons are for going missing will be evident sooner or later. The incompetence and lying is what stands out here. She made her deal with the devil decades ago.

  20. sparrow says:

    I don’t know whether this is a duplicate comment or my original didn’t post. Someone turned up at the door. Total nonsense. I gritted my teeth until they went, which took ages, and now I’m back. Is anyone else worried this is all getting out of hand and that doubting her announcement is essentially saying a woman with cancer is lying about having cancer? It’s all becoming covid-denying territory. The BRF has itself to blame here, with the hubris of the mother’s day card, of course, but to come up with she’s dead, or missing, or disappeared doesn’t sit right. And they did not lie about the queen’s death; they kept quiet she had cancer prior to her factual death (which was her/their right). Where are they keeping these people – in a locked room at Balmoral – and what are they burying – empty coffins with fake funeral services. I shall not let their mother day stupidity turn me into a full-blown Trump-type conspiracy nut. Resisting, Sparrow!

    • Julianna says:

      No, it’s not getting out of hand @Sparrow. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, never denied covid, and never have had or made comments about Trump in conspiracy territory. This isn’t just about a fake AI generated mother’s day photo.

      It’s has to do with the entire story from possibly December 28th to now. The lengths these people have gone to lie is appalling. The first picture we get is a bloated face Kate with 5 wheels. The second one we get is the back of her head in the dark of a backseat of the car. The 3rd one we get is a AI generated mothers day photo that never happened. The 4th one we get is elf eared BODY DOUBLE or AI generated video of her skipping around a farmers market. And days later we get another obvious FAKE video of her giving a cancer diagnosis whom btw looks completely different from farmers market Kate. They progressed with their fakes going to video because video is more believable and the farmers video was supposed to do just that. A lot of people don’t realize how advanced AI has become.

      Then you have them announcing her surgery the same time as Charles. They both end up being in the same hospital and get discharged on the same day. And now the story is the exact same as Charles. They just happened to find cancer on both of them at the exact same time.

      All of this doesn’t even account for the fact how crazy William was acting. And their PR completely different from the past. Then they will try and have us believe he pulled out of the memorial last minute because he found out about kates cancer dx 6 wks after he surgery??!! I mean cmon. The constant LIES.

      They LIE. Everything that comes out of their mouth is a damn lie. And that video IS AI generated so no it’s not in Trumpian conspiracy territory to think that possibly something has seriously happened to Kate.

    • Becks1 says:

      People on here are 100% saying she’s lying about having cancer. People think she’s dead for crying out loud.

      A lot of these comments sound a lot like what anti-Meghan accounts sound like when they’re trying to insist that Meghan was never pregnant etc.

      Its really easy to fall down the conspiracy rabbit holes while insisting that you’re not a conspiracy theorist.

      • sparrow says:

        Thank you, Becks1. I remember covid and the conspiracy theories, and my reaction to that. I remember (and it still goes on) the stuff about Meghan never being pregnant. I know my reaction to that. The lie that Harry has permanent lodging ready at a hotel because he can’t stand Meghan and goes there to retreat from his marriage. Well, I know what I think about that crap. W&K have done some really stupid stuff, but surely we can say the photo and video were mash-ups, but she has cancer and is dealing with it; rather than, yes the photo and video were mash-ups, but her announcement, after all the delays, is AI meaning … she’s dead or been disappeared. Sometimes, ugh, I’ve fallen into anti Meghan stuff on youtube and, like you say, it’s swarming with equivalent lies about her. I have to come over here for proper Meghan coverage as some kind of brain cleanser. I believe they ****ed up their PR, offensively so. I believe Kate is ill with cancer. These two things can co-exist.

      • MsIam says:

        I don’t recall Meghan posting fake photos @Becks1 nor did she disappear for months with no explanation. The “fake pregnancy” stories were clearly created out of whole cloth. You act like these Kate “conspiracies” sprang out of nowhere, when the truth is, there’s been no transparency from KP since the beginning. You are free to believe what you like, no need to be insulting to others.

      • poppedbubble says:

        Agreed, @Sparrow and @Becks1.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Becks1, I know there are any number of people who would not be able to believe someone would lie about their medical condition–especially, saying they have cancer. Who would do that? The problem we have here is that there have been so many lies and BBC refuses to say ANYTHING about the video. The veracity of the video is really quite easily proved. BBC Studios need to come out with the person who did the video and state that AI was not involved. That’s it. The fact that instead we have total silence is damning.

        I’m not a conspiracy theorist–never have been. I do think it’s quite possible that a divorce is definitely on the table. I think that she was looking pretty rough toward the end of last year–perhaps because she knew that Billy Idle was going to announce the divorce at the beginning of this year. Could she have had abdominal surgery? Yes. I’ve wondered if she has a bleeding ulcer. We don’t know what type of abdominal surgery. What the video states is that she HAD cancer and she was following up with chemo in case there were any cancer cells left. That’s just smart. It doesn’t explain why there have been so many machinations with photos and videos. That’s just plain strange and unnecessary.

        In the US, we’ve spent years finding the truth in the media–not always an easy thing to do. It’s making us critical of what we’re told and determined not to be taken in by more obfuscation, mis/disinformation. Why would that go into conspiracy theory territory?

      • Mar says:

        Becks, respectfully, one can’t lie about having cancer and be dead at the same time. I think it’s an important distinction to make that we’re all pointing accusing fingers at the BRF here. They’re currently suffering from the boy who cried wolf syndrome and are fair game.

      • Joy says:

        I am not a fan of Kate, she has made her bed, etc etc. I do hope she is ok. I don’t hate her and don’t wish her dead (NOT saying anyone here in these comments said that or wishes that). The behavior of William & KP are very concerning. If they hadn’t mentioned anything, no one would have noticed. As has been said repeatedly, Kate has always disappeared for months at a time. This time, KP/William felt the need to lie (the mother’s day pic at the very least), and why is that? I hope Kate is somewhere nice and sunny with the kids and CarolE, holding out for big big bucks, and that William is having a nervous breakdown over the fact that his request for a divorce went so sideways.

        All that being said, I don’t think we’re ever going to know the real truth.

      • Underhill says:

        We all, obviously, do not know for a fact what happened. Very few do, apparently. What we can see is the constant lying. It would not, at this point, be reasonable to trust in any thing they say or any explanation they make. Also: these people are not like us. They live in circumstances that we cannot understand, and have pressures upon them that we really do not have full knowlege of. My only real conviction is that something very bad happened in December, and they do not want anyone to know about it and we probably never will, not for decades, if at all. Cynicism is not a conspiracy theory. And cynicism about these folks and their motives is called for, I think.

      • ArtFossil says:

        Just so, @Underhill.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @CaptainCrunch, we only have a video of “Kate” saying this. A video that Getty has put a question mark on. Getty editors aren’t fueling anything. They’re questioning what KP/the POWs put out. I don’t buy her bench video. There is a visible disconnect between her head and neck.imo So, “Kate” hasn’t explained anything.imo

        LOFL, Meghan not being involved with Prince Harry’s interviews with the release of SPARE is a very BAD comparison. That’s a British Tabloid talking point. smh It is Harry’s book. The British Tabloids would have crucified her if she was present during his interviews. There is no logical comparison between Kate not being seen for months and Harry doing interviews for HIS book without Meghan.imo WTF Seriously.

    • ML says:

      Sparrow, I do believe that Kate is ill and/ or recovering. Abdominal surgery and treatment of cancer fit the original timeline they gave us. CarolE disappeared for a while with the exception of the 5-wheeled car pap photo (showing an unwell-looking daughter next to her), and BP have been fairly respectful of Kate herself and not attacked her. She deserves her privacy.
      I do believe that there is something very wrong with the BBC cancer video. This doesn’t mean that I think she’s dead: I do not. I tend to believe that she has cancer and had surgery. To me a potentially AI generated (in part) video does not negate her ill health. However there is something that is being hidden from us, because it makes no sense to not go to the most trusted source and film something straight otherwise. She’s not showing her usual public behavior in that video and my neighbor gave us a demonstration of how it might be altered which seemed spot on.

    • DianaTheArcher says:

      MSM has a legal requirement to uphold each nation’s freedom of the press laws and prevent behaviours like KP’s.

      If William did the fake photo as king, there’d be prosecutable legal violations for criminal conspiracy (I understand UK’s cart blanche for monarch behaviour, but MSM has to abide by US, Canadian, Australian, European courts, too. MSM would be prosecutable in those nations.)

      MSM across multiple networks met to respond as one profession before going public. Collectively, their expertise named KP’s behaviour as propaganda on par with North Korea and Iran. That caliber of purposeful trust-violation against the public by a state is the definition of a conspiracy against a democratic press.

      It’s weird that you’re arguing against there being a conspiracy here. MSM said there was with their chest. We’re only arguing about the size, scope, and style of conspiracy.

  21. Julianna says:

    @MSIAM

    THANK YOU. My comment in reply didn’t post. The anti-Meghan accounts are out their editing Meghans photos and videos to go along with the obvious lies. But it’s the actual PALACE submitting all these fake, AI generated photos and videos to the public of Kate. Not even comparable.

    • Interested Gawker says:

      “A lot of these comments sound a lot like what anti-Meghan accounts sound like when they’re trying to insist that Meghan was never pregnant etc.”

      I reject that. We have been asking and awaiting proof of life for Kate ever since she was said to have left the London Clinic with no media proof when C&C had been photographed there repeatedly. KP was caught passing faked moments as factual by giving manipulated photos to the international news wires. There are discrepancies in this latest video. The farm shop video is also suspect. Many people swore the Mothering Sunday photo was real before it was killed.

      Should KP/BP announce a turn for the worse in Kate’s health or even her death we the public will not have seen her since late December and will have no way to judge the timeframe or the veracity of KP/BP’s claims. We have no interview to hear Kate say unequivocally that statements attributed to her, especially the Frankenphoto, were truly released with her permission, we do not know if she is incapacitated at this moment, we do not know if she is still in England. Images of Kate are NOT KATE.

      I will defend “Wiglet Christ Superstar” as being funny af with my full chest and no shame in it while still being concerned for Kate’s welfare and that of her children. It isn’t lost upon me that the same BM that had been castigating Meghan for not being seen in public one hundred or so days keep insisting its perfectly normal and fine to say with a straight face a helicopter in the sky “is Kate and William” or pillory people who see full well what’s visually wrong with that video as ‘the crazy ones’. KP brought this on themselves with their duplicity and reliance on TMZ and SM in foisting their misdeeds on the public at Kate’s expense.

    • DianaTheArcher says:

      THIS.

      Kensington Palace has *literally* been compared to North Korea and Iran by multiple MSM professionals and multiple networks. MSM clearly stated KP deploys trust-violating propaganda that threatens the integrity of mainstream news. They have lied multiple times.

      It’s false equivalency to equate anti-Meghan haters with professionals naming acts of trust-violating propaganda.

      MSM has a requirement to uphold the Freedom of the Press and act in alignment with multi-national laws under that freedom.
      MSM publicly charged KP with conspiratorial behaviour that violates America’s First Amendment.
      Canada’s Section 2(b) of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

      If that was Buckingham Palace instead of KP there’d be an easy criminal conspiracy case on multiple national fronts.

      MSM’s being polite by not discussing the possibility of criminal conspiracy charges for a state violating 1A/2(b)/etc. They’re being polite by only using their words to equate KP to North Korea.

      Criminal conspiracies are real and Sparrow et al seem to have missed that–at best–planet earth’s lawful lands have already agreed KP’s conspired against the freedom of the press.

      It’s not an “if” there’s a conspiracy. It’s *how much* conspiracy is there. Is there a slam-dunk criminal charge to partner with the freedom of press conspiracy from William, future head of state? This Canadian would like to know why the palaces have been pervasively lying and broke with their long-established behavioural patterns since Dec 28th, 2023.

      I believe there are–at minimum–physical abuse charges to add on top of what the MSM has publicly charged him with so far.

  22. tamsin says:

    i don’t know what to believe except that without a doubtI am being gaslit. I do wonder about a couple of things about the images of Kate in the video- she seems to have a squarer jaw than I remember, her eyes are more hooded than I remember, and the video is so hazy, there must be at least multi-layers of filters. In the market video, I believe certainly that is not Kate, because of the heart-shaped profile and the fact that the woman seems to be in her thirties, or at the very least quite a big younger than Kate. It’s not surprising that everything is being questioned. And I’m sad to say that I cancelled by New York Times subscription before Covid, and my faith in the veracity and top notch reporting of BBC is gone.

  23. Square2 says:

    Wasn’t it 2 years ago, 3Kate’s X’mas church concert was filmed & produced by BBC (Studio?) but broadcasted on ITV? Wondered if it’s the same people that hire to film this cancer vid.

    BBC Studio said they gave the raw, unedited footage to KP. So they did NOT claim the final video as their production.

  24. Josie says:

    I’m surprised some people are just falling in line with KP & all their lies and fakery. So many fake photos and videos. And now they want everyone to believe this obvious fake blurred video is actually Kate. You would think some people would actually care about her enough or at least the situation in general to find out if she is ok. Charles is twice her age with cancer and was seen leaving the hospital and live events. Im not saying she has to go out in public it’s just extremely odd she hasn’t been seen at all.

    • Iolanthe says:

      Something certainly rotten in the house of Windsor . If Kate is fine and just lurking at home watching people whip themselves into a frenzy over her cancer/ coma/ near death / alien abduction theories, she must be thrilled . Never had so much dedicated press and publicity since her wedding .I have wondered what her regularly bandaged fingers signified . The scheduled and major abdominal surgery that took place has also been conveniently swept under a rug . So what was it ? A hysterectomy /appendectomy/ ruptured spleen / a tumour ?? The plot thickens.

  25. caroline says:

    Billy’s behaviour since Charles’s diagnosis has been so erratic and strange. The KP comms office is a joke and at this stage, I can’t believe a word they say. The Royals have hidden so much in the past and I believe they are still trying to conceal information from the public. Whatever it is, maybe we’ll find out one day, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

  26. slippers4life says:

    OK so wait a second, KP is wanting to use the BBC’s credibility to repair their own? I thought William said we were all supposed to not trust the reliability of the BBC because of how Bashir secured the interview with Diana and nothing Diana said was credible because she was paranoid?

  27. AC says:

    I agree with what someone posted on SM the other day. K appeared on US television- heck even interrupted March Madness – as breaking news. Americans of all walks of life will have an opinion on her whether that video is real or fake -Protected by our constitution’s 1st amendment rights.
    Obama even signed the Speech Act back in 2010 that still protects our 1st amendment rights over Foreign Jurisdictions . The BRF or whoever over there has no control whatsoever what people think over in the states. They broadcasted the K video on US television networks or streaming on US feeds, And as they’ve started to notice more, we’re very very opinionated – we can call them out, Question them, and push back.
    They can manipulate their own country but not the US.

    • Beverley says:

      Agreed. Sometimes it seems like the UK still sees us as their colony. Baldilocs promises to conquer us with his charm (?) offensives. Rose ChumbaWumba thinks UK laws will make Stephen Corbert back off. Rota Rats crave being on US television.

      The House of Windsor and the Middletons use People Magazine as their personal PR rag. But even as sycophantic as People Mag is, most Americans aren’t going to shut up and put up like the overly compliant British media does whenever the Left-Behinds have objections. We have a free press, and our constitution underscores our Freedom of Speech. It is our First Amendment right.

      So the Windsors are barking up the wrong tree if they think American journalists defer to royalty. Nor will even sycophantic People Magazine carry water for them indefinitely.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Beverley, “So the Windsors are barking up the wrong tree if they think American journalists defer to royalty.”

        I wonder if they understand that they will just anger American journalists with their forced stories? The bm came out to SHAME anyone who questioned where Bone Idle is. Then we get people looking at that video to see if it is a true representation of what the video is presenting. Obviously, there are a lot of questions there that BBC Studios have CHOSEN not to silence. There will be more than one American journalist who will be happy to hit back if they get enough info to print something.

        I’ve always wondered about the bm and brf when they kept going after Meghan for being American (oh, no, we’re not racist–she’s just tooooooo American). Someday, they’re going to figure out that the empire died long ago, and they are a small player on the world stage.

      • Beverley says:

        I can’t speak for other Black royal watchers, but those in my circle have definitely noticed the rota rats backpedaling. They are so ridiculously openly racist (which apparently plays well in the UK market) but when it reaches a boiling point, then the British media starts backpedaling with “honest, it’s not about race, it’s because Meghan’s an American”.

        I get that in some circles, the US is still viewed as an unruly colony that needs to be brought back in check. But I guarantee you that in many circles here in the US, the UK is viewed as *our* compliant lap dog. We aren’t as stupid as perhaps we are perceived by your brilliant (insert sarcasm here) rota rats.

        We see you, BM.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Not being surly @AC. What station interrupted March Madness? May have missed something (I follow/watch March Madness). I may have missed something. Would like to know the station to send them an email of things they shouldn’t interrupt March Madness for.imo

  28. phlyfiremama says:

    The BBC as a “credible news source” in regards to the BRF. Y’all, I am HOWLING with laughter over here. 😂😂😂

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      LOL! Right! The BBC News has probably been more guilty of editing royal footage than BBC Studios. ??? There are a number of us that know the BBC edited out an unpleasant exchange between the then Cambridge’s.

      The Windsor Farm video was not Kate. Why should anyone believe
      “Kate’s” March 22nd video? That’s my argument. If it comes out differently. I’m good with being wrong. KP/BRF, not so much.imo

    • Liz says:

      Yes, seems their years of covering up for Saville are forgotten. And Bashir tricking Diana too

  29. Aurora says:

    They’ve lied so much, that I don’t think conspiration theories can be stopped at this point. If there’s a live, interactive sighting of Kate, ppl will say she’s a very well trained double.
    I believe the woman in the video was Kate, but I totally understand why others wouldn’t.