Michael Sheen on the royals: ‘There are a few ‘wrong uns’ & clearly there is a problem’

There is a French show called Les Rencontres du Papotin, in which neurodivergent journalists and citizen-journalists ask celebrities and public figures questions in a group. Emmanuel Macron did the show and I remember he received high marks not only for appearing on the show, but treating the neurodivergent journalists with respect and humanity. Well, someone in the UK thought to adapt the show for a British audience. They’re calling it The Assembly and Michael Sheen is the first guest, and I hope he’s the first of many. He participated in the show for Britain’s Autism Acceptance Week. Some of his answers have already made headlines, but the biggest headline is probably that Michael Sheen is a real mensch and he was completely lovely to everyone. From The Guardian and the Mail’s coverage:

First question: “Was John Taylor from Duran Duran your first ever crush?” Answer: “I thought he was the most beautiful person I’d ever seen, man or woman. His hair was like a miracle.” And so begins The Assembly, in which 35 autistic, neurodivergent and learning disabled people quiz one Michael Sheen, the award-winning Welsh actor. I think we can safely assume in more than three decades of interviews that Sheen has never been asked whether he knows “anything about the long-term celebrity Tom Jones?” It’s a question that leads to an anecdote about Sheen bonding with the Welsh singer’s sister over a broken toe in hospital in LA.

Sheen clearly enjoys getting a grilling and is a kind, empathic presence with an unbreakable grin, even when asked what it feels like to be dating someone only five years older than his daughter. Ouch. I’ve learned all sorts of things about Sheen that I didn’t know I wanted to know. His favourite Disney film is Moana. His favourite food is egg and chips. He cries every day. His house in Wales is prone to bats flying in and sleeping in the folds of the curtains. His greatest fear is being alone. He can beatbox the Dynasty theme tune. And he’s happy to walk people through the before, during and after of his passionate kiss with David Tennant in Good Omens. All the while, the assembled group shouts out impromptu encouragement (“Michael! You’re doing fabulous!”), a bit of extra info (“By the way, my mum likes you!”), or a song, Here Comes the Sun, which makes Sheen cry.

One interviewer asked Mr Sheen if he could replace two members of the Royal family who would he replace and with who. To which he replied: ‘I’d get rid of Andrew and replace him with Joe Lycett and maybe bring David Attenborough instead of Camilla. And I’d make Tom Jones the Prince of Wales.’

Another interviewer, named Efan, asked Mr Sheen why he decided to give back his OBE. The award winning actor received his OBE in 2009 for service to drama before handing it back in 2017. Mr Sheen said: ‘I was given the OBE which is a great honour. But a few years later I was asked if I would do something called the Raymond Williams Lecture – a history of Wales. As I was researching for that I realised that if I was to give this lecture and say the things I was discovering I would be very hypocritical to have something calling me an Officer of the British Empire.’

He added that he has no problem with the honour system but felt he couldn’t give the lecture without handing back his OBE. Efan then asked a follow-up question about what Mr Sheen’s opinion was of the Royals in general. Mr Sheen paused for a second before he said: ‘I was a huge fan of the Queen. I think as individuals there are a few ‘wrong uns’ and clearly there is a problem. I have a bit of a problem with people accumulating so much wealth when we have people sleeping on the street.’

Mr Sheen has been vocal in the past about his opposition to the title of Prince of Wales which he brought up during his answer. He said: ‘Personally, with the particular title of the Prince and Princess of Wales, there is a history with that title that is problematic.’

[From The Guardian & The Daily Mail]

I love all of this – Sheen didn’t even rant about the royals, he just answered those questions with as much humor and honesty as he could. Sheen is getting rave reviews across the board and now people are clamoring for more episodes of The Assembly. I hope it happens! I would also love to see America do a version of this too, it would absolutely work and I’m already thinking about a list of American celebrities and politicians who would do really well in this kind of setting.

Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.

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  1. Tessa says:

    Terrific man. Bravo. I Enjoy his comments

  2. Jas says:

    What a lovely answer he gave to the question about the age gap. It was so kind and honest. I’m sitting here feeling a little teary.

  3. seaflower says:

    Amazing. Would love to see an Australian version too.

  4. Mary Pester says:

    Brilliant actor, brilliant personality and not a bad bone in his body. Loved the answer about the Royals and I liked how, in a round about way, he named the wronguns!
    Long life and happiness to you Mr. Sheen

  5. Lady Digby says:

    I will never get tired of seeing Michael give William the stink eye at the Baftas!

    • Alice B. Tokeless says:

      I’m considering it as my screen saver.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        I’m considering that Michael Sheen is the true Prince of Wales. Time to overthrow the fakakta one.imo

    • Agnes says:

      If ever there were a wrong ‘un, it’s the current Prince of Wales.

    • Ana Maria says:

      😍

    • Lorelei says:

      I don’t think I’ve seen that photo before and I howled. Don’t know how Kaiser dug that one up but it’s hysterical for this post.

      Does anyone know if we can access this show from the US?

  6. Digital Unicorn says:

    The way he was soo patient with Leo – warmed my old almost dead cold heart.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Oh, I felt for Leo, saw the red coming up on his cheeks, but he got his question out. Good for him!

  7. JoanCallamezzo says:

    I would watch the hell out of this show. Michael held space for everyone. Leo hit it out of the park. Beautiful.

    • Lisa says:

      I like that they let Leo speak but I also like that they let us see it took him time to speak but that everything was OK, everyone was fine with it.

  8. Josephine says:

    I was just looking through his imdb and his range is fantastic. He truly disappears into his roles. And I’m chuckling that he’s played both a vampire and a lycan. Goodness was he fantastic as a lycan – I had the biggest crush!!

  9. Lady Digby says:

    He is also going to play Prince Andrew in A very Royal Scandal Amazon series with Ruth Wilson as Emily Maitlis so he knows all about that particular Berk.

  10. Beana says:

    As someone who has an autistic son and is likely autistic herself, I love the concept of letting openly neurodivergent people ask questions from their perspective. At least in my experience, part of masking (which is exhausting) is constantly filtering out the “real” questions and topics I want to discuss and trying to find something bland and inoffensive instead. I’d love to see spin-offs of this show; however, I worry a little that it would become a gimmick, like “let’s see what rude thing the autistic person without a filter is gonna say.” Personally, when I am in neurodivergent spaces, I feel it’s not a matter of rudeness of but of honesty and true connection, and I hope that would be preserved in any show of this type. I feel like I just “saw” Michael Sheen in new ways because of that honesty and sincerity. I hope we can someday progress as a society to a point where people like my son (and me) can just be ourselves and add something to those larger social conversations in a way that is authentic for us.

    • Kaye says:

      Beana, this is lovely, and I learned something by reading it.

    • AB says:

      Same here, I love this! I have an almost teenage autistic daughter who is just realizing that there are people called actors who play the characters she loves in movies and “talk for” the characters in her animated shows. She’s so fascinated and asks a million questions that I can’t answer lol. It would be cool to see what she would ask in this setting if she could talk to Barbie or Wednesday (who is also Gabriella from Big City Greens – a recent connection she made that blows her mind lol).

      We’ve been working on teaching her and her NT little brother about the rules of society, how there are certain things we do and say or ways we are supposed to behave out in the world, and it’s particularly difficult for her because she doesn’t understand why she can’t just say/do whatever she wants. It kind of sucks because I’m basically teaching her to mask. I don’t want to dim her light but I also want her to be able to engage with the world without being unintentionally rude or offensive.

    • Mary Pester says:

      @BEANA, Thank you for taking the time to post that. It really opens people’s eyes. WELL SAID YOU!!

    • bisynaptic says:

      ❤️ 🎯

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Thank you @Beana for sharing.

      “I feel like I just “saw” Michael Sheen in new ways because of that honesty and sincerity.”.

      And warmth. Michael Sheen is a fine actor. Quite good. He is genuine in this video. He cares and doesn’t speak down to anyone in this interview. (he shouldn’t either) His eyes show genuine interest. I’m probably not saying any of this right. I love this.

  11. Amy Bee says:

    He’s a lovely man.

  12. Brassy Rebel says:

    Yes, we need this in America. And I thought Tom Jones was already the Prince of Wales. 😉

  13. samipup says:

    Starting a list. Willie Nelson…

    • Winnie Cooper’s Mom says:

      I’ll add a couple: Stevie Nicks, Meryl Streep and Tom Hanks.

      • JD says:

        Yes, all of the above.
        And Dolly Parton!
        I’d also think Cardi B would be awesome.
        As would Steve Martin, and Eddie Murphy.
        Travis Kelce (more so than his Missus).
        Jennifer Lawrence.
        (random list, I know!).

        Maybe they could do one in the run up to the presidential election…. Although I would hate to subject the interviewees to one candidate in particular, but alas that’s the one that should probably be heard by all unfiltered and without editing.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Keanu Reeves
      Jackie Chan
      James Earl Jones
      Jamie Lee Curtis
      Denzel Washington
      Hugh Jackman
      Michael J. Fox

      and, if she were still alive, Betty White. F*ck. Any of the Golden Girls too. I weep.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Oops, I’d be remiss not including someone/s from the UK. Peter Hunt & Larry the Cat.

  14. Bettyrose says:

    Didn’t he at one point record a screed against the PoW title while walking along the Welsh seaside and it was sexy AF?

    • Mary Pester says:

      @Betty rose ,yes I saw that and oh boy do I agree with you, the man is hot. I was getting scared though that a couple of S. B. S personnel were going to pop up in scuba gear and drag him of!

  15. Tuesday says:

    Anyone who loves Moana just has to be good people! 😁

  16. Shawna says:

    I second Joe Lycett!

  17. Winnie Cooper’s Mom says:

    I still hate that he and Rachel McAdams didn’t work out in the long run. I really liked them together.

    • Tessa says:

      They also had great onscreen chemistry

    • NikkiK says:

      Same! I loved him with Rachel. When everybody was like wah wah wah I wish Ryan and Rachel had worked out, I’m like no, I wish Rachel and Michael had worked out

  18. Julie says:

    He and David Tennant are both allies of the LBGTQ community. During the Pandemic they did a show called “Staged”, them planning a play together for when the theaters opened again. Completely on zoom, from Wales and England. Very funny, touching too, about Sheen’s concern about his elderly neighbor. Their partners appear, wonderful cameos, my former fave Dench saying bad words. It’s a mood elevator.

  19. bisynaptic says:

    I disagree about the royals: I think there’s a few right ‘uns—and they live in California.

    BTW: Sheen clearly enjoys grilling… asked what it feels like to be dating someone only five years older than his daughter.” Here’s your answer: “His greatest fear is being alone.”

  20. TheOriginalMia says:

    He’s absolutely right about John Taylor. Beautiful man. And that hair. Whew! 15 yo me was very much in love with JT back in the day.

  21. QuiteContrary says:

    I love everything about this.

  22. SarahCS says:

    I’ve watched the french version and I’m delighted that the concept is being exported. Martin Sheen seems like a great guy and he’s clearly a perfect choice to demonstrate what the concept of this show is all about. People are finally talking and understanding more about neurodivergence and we need to keep shining a light on it. The more we can normalise all the different ways in which people’s brains can show up the better.

  23. East Villager says:

    I am a long-time Michael Sheen superfan. Not only is he the star of my favorite meme (the Twilight Volturi judging everyone in fancy clothes) but he was an absolute dreamboat on British Bake-off. i admire that he and Kate Beckinsale had a cordial break-up and raised their kid together to be a proper decent person. He’s just a delight in every movie and TV show he’s ever done.