Many have joked this week that the left-behind Windsors will need to commission at least a dozen emotional-support polls in the wake of Prince Harry’s wildly successful UK visit. Harry made them all look like what they are: prissy, dull, lacking in charisma, petty, jealous, unimaginative and lazy. Well, funny story. New polling numbers landed in the middle of Harry’s visit, and the numbers are really bad. Hilariously bad, one might say.
Support for the monarchy has dropped to its lowest level since records began, with backing for abolition growing five-fold, according to new research. When the National Centre for Social Research first asked in 1983 how important it was to have a monarchy, more than four in five people – 86 per cent – considered it “very important” or “quite important”. Its latest survey found that only half, 51 per cent, now take that view.
Meanwhile, the proportion who said the monarchy was “not very important” or “not at all important” has risen from one in 10 in 1983 to around three in 10. Support for outright abolition of the monarchy has also grown, from just 3 per cent in 1983 to 15 per cent.
Alex Scholes, NatCen’s research director, said the latest data showed how public opinion had shifted over four decades.
“Support for the monarchy is now at its lowest level since our records began, with more people than ever questioning its future,” he said. “At the same time, when asked to choose directly, a majority of the public still prefer to keep the monarchy over moving to an elected head of state. This tension, between declining importance and continued preference, will be crucial in shaping debates about the monarchy’s role in the years ahead.”
For the first time, NatCen’s British Social Attitudes Survey also asked the public to choose between keeping the monarchy or replacing it with an elected head of state. A majority, 58 per cent, said they favoured retaining the monarchy, while 38 per cent would prefer an elected head of state. But the research shows a sharp divide across age and political groups. While 59 per cent of those aged 16-34 preferred an elected head of state, three quarters – 76 per cent – aged 55 and over said they would support the continuation of the monarchy.
It’s worth noting that this seems to be above-board data gathered by the National Centre for Social Research, as opposed to a manipulated YouGov poll of twenty Tory seniors. While they aren’t discussing methodology or the time frame in which the data was collected, feel certain that the poll was probably happening as people learned that Prince William plans to NOT live in Buckingham Palace when he’s king, and instead plans to hide out in Forest Lodge and perhaps Zoom into his meetings with prime ministers. It could be that the British public feels like “hey, if the future king doesn’t give a sh-t, why should we?” Plus, people have a general awareness of the sorry state of the royal family these days. While Charles gets a lot of well-deserved sh-t, he’s pretty much the only person holding this enterprise together.
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- King Charles III and Queen Camilla, the Prince and Princess of Wales, the Princess Royal and The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester attend the annual Commonwealth Day Service of Celebration at Westminster Abbey, in London. Picture date: Monday March 10, 2025,Image: 974325849, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon
- (left to right) King Charles III, Queen Camilla, the Prince and Princess of Wales attend a Service of Thanksgiving at Westminster Abbey in London on the 80th anniversary of VE Day. Picture date: Thursday May 8, 2025. NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS,Image: 996578922, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red/Avalon
- The Prince of Wales and King Charles III attend a service of thanksgiving at Westminster Abbey in London on the 80th anniversary of VE Day. Picture date: Thursday May 8, 2025. NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS,Image: 996579270, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red/Avalon
- (L-R) – King Charles III, Prince Louis, Prince William – The Prince of Wales, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Princess Catherine – The Princess of Wales watch the flypast on the balcony as part of The King’s Birthday Parade Celebration also known as ‘Trooping The Colour’ at Buckingham Palace, London, England, UK on Saturday 14 June, 2025.,Image: 1010940254, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
- London, UK, 14 June 2025. Protestors during the King’s Birthday Parade, Trooping The Colour, Buckingham Palace, London, UK.,Image: 1010943629, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Lee Floyd/Avalon
- London, UK, 14 June 2025. The Royal family on the balcony of Buckingham Palace at the end of the King’s Birthday Parade, Trooping The Colour, Buckingham Palace, London, UK.,Image: 1010943784, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Lee Floyd/Avalon
- Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester and Birgitte, Duchess of Gloucester, Sophie Duchess of Edinburgh, Prince Edward, Duke of Edinburgh, Queen Camilla, King Charles III, Prince Louis, Prince William, Prince George, Catherine Princess of Wales, Princess Charlotte, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, Princess Anne and Timothy Laurence seen on the Palace balcony for a RAF fly-by during Trooping the colour on Saturday 14 June 2025 at Buckingham Palace, London. Number 7 Company Coldstream Guards Troop their Colour in the presence of His Majesty The King. Over 1350 soldiers of the Household Division and King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery took part, including over 300 musicians from the Massed Bands.. Picture,Image: 1010947839, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: World Rights – Julie Edwards/Avalon.Red, Model Release: no, Credit line: Julie Edwards/Avalon
- Queen Camilla, King Charles III, Prince Louis, Prince William, Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Catherine Princess of Wales seen on the Palace balcony for a RAF fly-by during Trooping the colour on Saturday 14 June 2025 at Buckingham Palace, London. Number 7 Company Coldstream Guards Troop their Colour in the presence of His Majesty The King. Over 1350 soldiers of the Household Division and King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery took part, including over 300 musicians from the Massed Bands.. Picture,Image: 1010947955, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: World Rights – Julie Edwards/Avalon.Red, Model Release: no, Credit line: Julie Edwards/Avalon
- Queen Camilla, King Charles III, Prince Louis, Prince William, Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Catherine Princess of Wales seen on the Palace balcony for a RAF fly-by during Trooping the colour on Saturday 14 June 2025 at Buckingham Palace, London. Number 7 Company Coldstream Guards Troop their Colour in the presence of His Majesty The King. Over 1350 soldiers of the Household Division and King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery took part, including over 300 musicians from the Massed Bands.. Picture,Image: 1010948127, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: World Rights – Julie Edwards/Avalon.Red, Model Release: no, Credit line: Julie Edwards/Avalon
- Trooping the Colour, The Kings’s Birthday Parade, London, UK. 14th June 2025. Their Majesty’s King Charles III, Colonel in Chief of the Household Division, wearing the Uniform of the Coldstream Guards, and Queen Camilla, ride in a horse drawn carriage in the procession along the Mall at Trooping the Colour, The King’s Birthday Parade, London, UK.,Image: 1011191295, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Supplied by AVALON – Fee Payable Upon Reproduction – For queries contact Avalon – sales@avalon.red London: +44 (0) 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles: +1 (310) 822 0419 Madrid: +34 91 533 4289, Model Release: no, Credit line: Photo by Amanda Rose/Avalon
- King Charles III and Queen Camilla seen at the Trooping the colour on Saturday 14 June 2025 at Buckingham Palace, London. Number 7 Company Coldstream Guards Troop their Colour in the presence of His Majesty The King. Over 1350 soldiers of the Household Division and King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery took part, including over 300 musicians from the Massed Bands.. Picture,Image: 1011197176, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: World Rights – Julie Edwards/Avalon.Red, Model Release: no, Credit line: Julie Edwards/Avalon
- King Charles III arriving for the State Banquet for President of France Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte Macron, at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the French President’s state visit to the UK. Picture date: Tuesday July 8, 2025.,Image: 1019898127, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon
I really wonder how long the monarchy will last because the press seem desperate to make sure the family knows they need the golden couple back. I don’t even think it’s for the advancement of the monarchy, it’s for the press, who are losing jobs and newspapers closing down. They can’t afford to wait until the Wales children get older, they won’t last another 2-5 years at the rate it’s going. They’re getting close to outright begging the family at this point.
They are NOT coming back, no matter what. THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK.
Diana + Harry = endgame. Like Scobie wrote. And his book was not lurid or salacious. It was like subtitles for reality-deprived people.
Looking forward to some future Netflix docuseries, about Camilla, the woman who destroyed the British monarchy with one King-sized tampon.
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I keep thinking that, outside of GB News and the Fail newsroom, a lot of Brits (and we subjects here in Canada and other places) simply are not white and do not think that the actions of the Crown are respectful to their people in any way.
And Britain is and has always been a mishmash of European and other ethnicities, cultures and subcultures. Just because there have been Germans in charge for a few hundred years doesn’t mean that their brand of hierarchical whiteness prevails.
So, were these numbers released before or after Harry met with King Charles? I could see his courtiers freaking out and saying, quick, hurry up Charles and meet with Harry!
So 59% of those aged 16-34 said they would prefer an elected head of state over the monarchy? That’s a pretty big deal. The thing is an elected head of state would never be given as much money as the RF is given. If the monarch stays the head of state, at the very least, why not reduce the SG money and detangle the duchy real estate from one family.
In 30 years, that 76% of people 55+ that are in favor of keeping the monarchy, will mostly be dead and gone. George may never be King.
I predict that the Monarchy will end with William, since he’ll do a grand job of botching it up, & calling it “modernization”.
That 59% figure for ages 16-34 is really stunning. I agree entirely about giving the duchies back to the people. Willy and Kate are doing their best to make that happen with this “modern monarchy” scam of vacationing most of the year and relying on social media and tweets for important national events like VJ Day.
Honestly, I’m not entirely convinced that even Harry and Meghan could’ve done much to prevent this inevitability. QEII was accepted because she was elderly and pleasant enough and had played the role for her entire adult life, and firing Granny would’ve felt wrong. Charles was never going to be popular, not after what he did to Diana, and his cancer has almost certainly shortened his time on the throne anyway. William and Kate are not only charisma vacuums, but feckless as well, and their idea of instilling a sense of duty in their children is simply assigning them characters. Harry and Meghan are amazing humans, but they’re not SUPERhumans. They couldn’t be expected to do virtually EVERYTHING the BRF needs doing (and likely WOULDN’T agree to all of it, as part of the deal with the devil apparently involves feeding their kids to the tabloids). The monarchy’s death might have been a little slower, but it would still be dying.
You’re right, Harry and Megan were never going to save them, maybe just delay the inevitable. Now instead of just a quiet “we’re done here”, it’ll be loud, drawn out and cringe. They will make it so because they’re deluded. Will would divorce Kate so fast……
Yes, WanK are feckless scammers, but I feel like the Sussexes would have brought sincere dedication and some color, two things that might have held this enterprise together for a few more years.
But yeah, take away the duchies and the massive tax breaks, and put them on an allowance commensurate with whatever work they do. Willy can hide out in Forest Lodge and pretend he’s important to his remaining servants.
Those racist, sexist men in grey gave the royals terrible advice, they were short sighted and not in touch with how the world would perceive the treatment of Meghan. They thought their etonian elitist white privilege would protect the royals. People could forgive the queen, she was in her 90’s and on her last legs but Charles should have known better. The rest of the world don’t give a sh*t that you wear tails, top hats and fascinators, dress in fancy clothes and give fake medals. They are not impressed, the treatment of M&H exposed the royal family for who they really are. They still are digging their own graves if they can’t pivot and redeem themselves. Tea with Harry might be a step for Charles in redeeming his tainted legacy, we can only wait and see. William has a very steep hill to climb, old timers will die off and he certainly isn’t winning the hearts and minds of the younger generation. I doubt George will ever be king, maybe as a token gesture or minor figurehead. The monarchy seems to be headed this way now as it is.
To me, the “working” royals on the balcony picture look more like a board of directors than a family. I think people identify more with a family.
Also, I don’t think William has shown himself capable of being king. I don’t know what’s going on there, but there is no indication that he has been training for the job.
One of the things (a very short list, granted) I liked about QEII’s reign was the overstuffed balcony at events like Trooping the Colour. It was sort of fun to see her children, their spouses, her children’s children, her cousins and their spouses and children, etc., all jammed in a relatively small space. It betokened a unity and family solidarity that simply doesn’t exist anymore. Now the balcony is sparsely occupied, and that with charisma-challenged, uninteresting, unexciting individuals. Chucky Boy obviously thought that he’d get more attention if he winnowed out the extended family and put himself and Queen Side Piece at the center of the balcony. Instead, he just emphasized how withered that family is.
Basically there is no royal “family.” There was no doubt that Queen Elizabeth was a matriarch. She held her family and relatives at least publicly in a cohesive group. Charles has rejected his only two children. There is no family. Charles is no patriarch. There is a man and his mistress. However, the monarchy remains. There’s just no longer a real family behind the institution.
I think this poll makes sense in 2025 and it seems like the numbers keep trending downward, which also makes sense. People in their 20s and 30s and even 40s today aren’t going to care that the queen mother stayed in BP during the blitz 80 years ago – and that’s going to be more of a problem over the next few decades as World war II itself fades.
there’s tradition and then there’s being out of touch and what was considered traditional under a 90 year old queen is looking very out of touch with a 75 year old monarch and his lazy 43 year old son.
And particularly if Willy has shown us that his “modern monarchy” is going to do away with not just the ribbon cutting, but showing up for important traditions like VJ Day. WanK has already demonstrated that WWII is in the rear-view window for him.
Problem is, Willy has no new traditions–or even meaning–to replace this. Willy and Kate’s “meaning” seems to be “We’ll show up at your event and eat your brownies, although this really isn’t my sort of thing, so you’re really lucky to enjoy my presence for a few minutes.”
#DefundTheMonarchy
#Abolish the monarchy.
It’s long past time that this institution goes the way of other dinosaurs.
With today’s political sh*tshow in US + UK and turn to fascism world-wide, I’ve actually come to see the advantage of having a unelected head of state who is supposed to remain neutral politically and carry on through all the government changes. If nothing else, the continuity could be reassuring.
BUT – you need someone who understands and accepts the responsibility. Charles does,. The way the monarchy conducts its business needs to change, but William is absolutely not the man for the job.
Oh, well – I guess we’ll see. BRF is not going away anytime soon.