Mail: Prince William has cleared the way to remove the Sussexes’ titles

From where I sit, there was a tipping point on the Prince Andrew/Mountbatten Windsor situation this month which was years in the making. The Windsors misread the public mood, King Charles dithered and Prince William raged from his tenth vacation of the year. The tipping point on Andrew involved a decades-long cover-up, years of lies and abuse, and one of Andrew’s victims speaking from beyond the grave. The situation is simply not comparable to anything involving the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who were bullied and abused by the institution and press, so much so that they simply… left the country almost six full years ago. If Prince Harry’s September trip to the UK was any indication, the British public still loves him and supports him. Andrew, meanwhile, was heckled and called a “nonce” at his mother’s 2022 funeral. My point? It’s bizarre to see so many Sussex supporters and haters alike use the Andrew situation to talk about Harry and Meghan. The Daily Mail’s Maurren Callahan basically had a psychotic episode about the Sussexes in her column published after the Andrew Mountbatten Windsor announcement.

It is now a question of when. Not if. The bombshell announcement out of Buckingham Palace that Andrew has been stripped of his status as a prince immediately, that he will henceforth be known as ‘Mr. Mountbatten Windsor’, and that he has been forced to surrender the lease to Royal Lodge leaves no doubt in my mind: Harry and Meghan are next. The sun begins to set over Montecito — permanently.

And Prince William, as we posited earlier this week, emerges as the apparent force behind these most welcome reforms — despite the official statement having come from the King. This is William’s monarchy now. In that light, Andrew feels more like a pawn removed by William to clear the way for his real target: Harry.

If the late Queen’s favorite son can be coldly ejected and stripped of his birthright — if William can have convinced the infamously conflict-averse Charles to renounce his own brother — well, Harry’s days as prince and Duke of Sussex are surely numbered. As for Meghan? Like Fergie, she would just be collateral damage. An afterthought. Flotsam in search of a shore – perhaps QVC’s Pennsylvania headquarters and where she might shill As Ever overstock on deep discount.

To know that Meghan and Harry may now be consigned to the dustbin of Royal history, perseverating over the remains of the day from the cheap seats, is perhaps the most tantalizing and satisfying finale of the modern age. Sayonara, Sussexes!

Kate, though silent, is doubtless among William’s prime motives in dispatching first with his uncle, and perhaps next his brother. It was Harry who reprinted Kate’s private text messages with Meghan in Spare. It was Harry and Meghan’s cheerleader, their glorified biographer Omid Scobie, who named Kate and Charles as the so-called ‘royal racists.’ If William is just getting started, he surely knows the world is cheering him on, that any further attacks from his brother and sister-in-law, those epic dramatists, would be laughed off and dismissed.

A former royal aide at Kensington Palace, William and Kate’s London residence, told the Daily Mail that ‘now that they’re picking away at the edges [of the family]’ — that would be Andrew — ‘a bigger unravelling is coming.’

That bigger unravelling is, to my mind, Harry and Meghan’s royal titles, status and honors.

‘The role William has — to try to forge something sustainable — is now in stark relief. And no, Charles isn’t up to that job,’ the former aide continued. ‘Once Andrew stops being the convenient cover, then where will people look next?’

[From The Daily Mail]

So… those quotes from a former royal aide are… not about Harry and Meghan, right? “A bigger unravelling is coming” – for the monarchy itself, because this Andrew situation was and is a larger reflection of the monarchy’s corruption and abuses. “Once Andrew stops being the convenient cover, then where will people look next?” Literally, they’ll look to the remaining royals, none of whom are ready for primetime. They’ll look at a dying king, his unhinged, illiterate, workshy heir, and a collection of senior citizens who stagger through their busywork. If and when William “takes away Harry and Meghan’s titles,” it won’t actually mean a thing to Harry and Meghan. They live in California. They own a beautiful mansion. They are free from all of this bullsh-t. Let me say this as well: once the Sussexes stop being the convenient cover, then where will people look next?

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179 Responses to “Mail: Prince William has cleared the way to remove the Sussexes’ titles”

  1. Jensa says:

    If he does this, it will backfire on him. After all, all Harry has done is show that there is another way for “spares”, they don’t have to live an aimless, dissolute life on public money like Andrew and Margaret.

    PW must be disappointed he can’t evict Harry or cut off his money (as he’s not taking any).

    • Startup Spouse says:

      When their titles are taken away, I hope they release a statement that says titles are silly in the modern age, there is nothing special about royal blood, and emphasize the point that many non-royals have done more for charities and service than the royals themselves.

      I hope they go hard on questioning the existence of the monarchy, rather than a muted statement that they will keep doing what they’re doing.

      • Dutch says:

        The titles and such are the one card William has left to play. It’s not going to change the support the Sussexes have, if anything it could make them more in demand and free them to more business opportunities because they won’t have the restrictions that come with royal titles.

      • Gtwiecz says:

        And I hope Harry writes a second book. Expose it all!

      • Princessk says:

        Yes, William appears mean and revengeful. Britain is becoming increasingly right wing and many Reform and Farage supporters are anti Harry and Meghan and support William who may also have right wing tendencies. Dangerous times.

    • Me at home says:

      I hope Harry publishes those 400 pages of Spare he said were edited out.

    • Teddy says:

      Yes, it will only backfire. And won’t make any difference. Harry and Meghan will still exist, will still be happy and successful, and Bill will still be engorged with rage and helplessly obsessed with them.

      • Lorelei says:

        It’s all so asinine. Harry is and will always be a Prince (just like Andrew). Everyone will continue to call him — and think of him as — “Prince Harry” for the rest of his life. The patronages he’s been loyal to will likely ignore William’s tantrum and do the same. The only people this will matter to are W&K (and the staff of the Fail, evidently). It will actually be funny to see how many Sussex detractors slip up and refer to him as “Prince Harry” live on the air if and when this ultimately happens. Harry lives in a country where titles aren’t even recognized, ffs.

        Everyone in the world still calls Diana “Princess Diana” and whenever anyone hears or reads “the Queen,” we automatically think of Elizabeth, not Camilla. But the commenter upthread was right— the titles, etc. are all William has left over Harry. How pathetic.

        Maureen Callahan has obviously always been crazy, but this is one of the more unhinged articles I’ve read in a long time. It was actually so pathetic that it was enjoyable. You can tell from reading it how proud she was of some of those lines, lmao. As if the Sussexes care one whit about any of this.

      • Deborah1 says:

        @Lorelei – Maureen Callahan is completely unhinged and deranged. She is one of the worst, if not THE worst, writers on the Mail payroll, even worse than Platell, Moir and Vine. She will stick the knife into anybody and everybody. What a hateful creature she is. I cannot read the full article because it distresses me. I just cannot take her bile, because that’s what it is – bile.

    • Beth says:

      Ah. Maureen Callahan, the fixated Sussex-hating fruit loop regularly given a platform by the Daily Fail to air her spiteful fantasies. Yep, the tawdry rag that Harry, Baroness Lawrence and others are dragging kicking and screaming into court in January 🤔

    • The Robinsons says:

      H&M had already offered to give back the titles when QE2 was alive.

    • Gtwiecz says:

      “A bigger unravelling is coming” .

      Billy Idle can start with himself and his wife, two lazy grifters of taxpayers’ money. Abolish the whole damn thing, Wilbur!

      • Cathy Buchanan says:

        Agreed. Being born a Prince is either something sacred and special, or it isn’t. Treason against the Crown (taking up arms against the UK in a time of war) should be the only offence that results in a Prince being stripped of his titles and honors. If William strips Harry, he places his own “special” status in doubt. He’s just a dirt-common ordinary bully of an older brother with jealousy and anger issues, hanging around waiting for Pa to die so he can indulge himself without restraint.

  2. Eurydice says:

    Sure, fine, whatever. If Meghan and Harry end up in the dustbin of history, it will be right there along with the rest of the RF. Time only goes one way.

    The anger that the Andrew situation has produced has nothing to do with H&M – it’s about the profound control the monarchy has over all aspects of life in the UK. It’s about the monarchy wielding power for its betterment at the expense of the country. The fiction that the monarchy provides stability and identity has been blasted. Let’s see what William does with that.

    • SURE says:

      Just saw a (ex?) politician on Good Morning Britain imply that W’s reported desire for a slimmed down monarchy should be accompanied by slimmed down public funding. What a great idea! Getting rid of the monarchy entirely would of course be an even better idea.

      • Hypocrisy says:

        The conversations have started.. I hope they do cut the ridiculous amount of money that is wasted on this family. It’s long overdue.

    • jais says:

      Andrew is still being supported with money and has security in Sandringham. His situation is nothing like Harry’s who takes no money and has no security.

      • Eurydice says:

        Exactly, plus Harry has the added advantage of not being a criminal. There maybe the usual snarkiness around H&M in the future, but nothing they’re doing is a danger to the monarchy. Is William going to strip the titles because Meghan launched a new jam? It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the Invictus Games.

      • jais says:

        Bc Meghan launched a new jam, lol. I mean that sounds like something William would do. I really do expect William to one day make his play whether it makes sense or not and even if it does make the monarchy look obsolete.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Jais, I think William is definitely going to try— it seems like it’s all he’s living for at this point — and that is not even an exaggeration! It’s practically all he talks about, ffs.

        @Eurydice, I hope Charles is healthy enough and does go to the IG to support Harry. (I don’t know how realistic this scenario is, but 🤷🏻‍♀️.) Not only would it be a smart move for Charles, IMO, it would absolutely incense William, and I for one would enjoy watching him melt down over it, likely with increasingly unhinged quotes to the Royalist via Jason. TBH I think the decision will ultimately be made by Camilla, since Chuck would never go against her. (What a leader, lol.)

      • Eurydice says:

        @Lorelei – I think it depends on how stupid William and his advisors are. This Andrew thing has been a major crisis that’s invited much too much scrutiny into the RF’s activities and behavior. Now, they can say that William can ascend with the decks swept clean. The last thing the monarchy needs is for William to open up a can of worms as soon as he becomes king.

      • Gtwiecz says:

        What shortsighted Willard doesn’t see if that without Harry and Meghan, that institution will be so slimmed down that no one will care about them anymore. The hanger ons have no charisma. Beatrice and Eugenie may keep their titles but are now tainted. The old folks, no one cares about them. And he and his unhappy wife (even she is always grinning) simply have zero appeal. Good luck with your dying institution Peg!

  3. Dee(2) says:

    ” If William is just getting started, he surely knows the world is cheering him on, that any further attacks from his brother and sister-in-law, those epic dramatists, would be laughed off and dismissed.”

    What?? They really believe that people have dismissed what was in Spare, the docu series, and the Oprah interview? These royalists live in a different reality. The world is not cheering him on. I can’t believe they actually are trying to say there is an appetite to remove the titles of two individuals who didn’t like the way they were being treated, so removed themselves from the taxpayer dime and the country, as opposed to someone who was ducking serious allegations and potential criminal charges for years.

    Another thing I don’t get, do these people legitimately believe that Harry and Meghan are popular solely because of those titles? That their charisma, hard work, interest, approachability is all because of the title. And if you took the title away all of a sudden Harry would no longer be charming, Meghan would no longer be able to put you at ease, they wouldn’t be hard workers?

    Where are they going to do when they take the titles away, they get blowback for being clearly racist, William can’t hide behind when I’m the king anymore, they’re still incredibly lazy, and none of the other working royals garner any real attention? How are they going to justify their hundreds of millions per year then?

    • Tina says:

      They seem to believe that. It’s so bizarre. They live in this bubble where they have been raised to perform this subservient behaviour to this ridiculous family they don’t seem to realize that’s not how the wider world works. If it was the titles then everything Kate and William and Sophie etc did would be worldwide news constantly. Honestly I hope he does take the titles at this point. That will be the last tie to that horrible place.

    • Tessa says:

      Will sounds unhinged why would the public cheer. Will needs counseling

    • Eurydice says:

      If anything, people and the press are seeing that Spare was more true than they originally thought.

      It’s out now that the RF briefs constantly, they lie constantly and they’ll use any means to cover up their doings. People kind of knew it before, but now it’s being said out loud.

      • Becks1 says:

        Taking away the Sussexes titles would
        Prove everything they have said is true.

        Even now they’re not touching Beatrice and Eugenie.

        But they’re going to remove the titles from the Black duchess? Is that how William intends to end racism?

      • Princessk says:

        Removing the Sussex titles would make them even more popular. It would be a very stupid move by William and backfire on his mean intentions.

      • HeatherC says:

        @Becks1 I think Will promised to end racism in football only. Meghan doesnt play football so he figures he’d be safe

  4. Lawrenceville says:

    Meh, the haters and their tabloid minions are foaming at the mouth for nothing. Let me shout this out so those in the back can her: Prince Harry, in his memoir, said that he already offered to relinquish his and Meg’s titles and styles and the monarchy themselves refused to take them. Its in the monarchy’s best interest to not strip the Sussexes of anything, William, Charles and all their minions know it. So, lets stop pretending that the titles or anything of that sort means anything to the Sussexes or even defines them.

    • Hypocrisy says:

      I believe this.. these are just Peggy’s fantasy articles used as distractions.

    • Ciotog says:

      William seems dumb and angry enough not to know that stripping the Sussex titles will rebound on him and the monarchy a hundredfold.

    • Gtwiecz says:

      Even the UK government knows that. There is no reason to strip titles from an internationally popular couple with 2 very cute kids. With or without titles, they’ll continue being popular.

  5. Yes the Sussexes were conveniently used to look over there not over here. Like I have said before the public is furious with the monarchy and the pedo just ramped it up. The pedo will still be protected and housed and funded. This isn’t what the public wanted it’s just what Chuckles decided to do. Peg can try to do this to the Sussexes but it will make him that much more unpopular (no I don’t believe the made up polls where he gets good ratings). The monarchy is on fire and ALL the leftovers are to blame.

    • jais says:

      Yes, he still gets protected, housed and funded. And de-titled. Harry has no royal protection housing, and funding so what’s the problem.

    • sunnyside up says:

      Harry’s popularity has gone up and William’s has gone down recently but William is still twice as popular as Harry. (you gov)

      • I believe that you gov are those who love the monarchy so it is skewed to like them. I do not believe the poll!

      • Smatone99 says:

        Sunnyside – yougov polls are not real! 🤣🤣🤣. It’s royal fanfiction with responses from essentially bots.

      • Smatone99 says:

        I missed the editing window. These aren’t proper polls like election polls. Anyone (or any bot farm) can respond and there’s no actual validity given to their topic polls which this is. They say on their website all of this.

      • Gtwiecz says:

        Haha the fake poll to please dull and anger issues Willy.

      • Princessk says:

        All these polls mainly reflect old people. Young people favour the Sussexes. People who have racist tendencies seem to support William.

    • Chrissy says:

      Willnot doing this would only blow back on him. Sure he could take Harry’s dukedom title away but nothing would stop them from still using Sussex as surname. Anyone can change their surname to anything, so all of Willnot’s raging would all be for nought. They’d still be referred to as the Sussexes!

      • Nerd says:

        Or even better, the Spencers. Three redhead Spencers and a raven haired one would be perfect.

      • Smatone99 says:

        I’m sure they will stay Sussex now, no matter what. I can’t imagine why, when they’re globally known as the Sussexes, would they change to Spencer. Harry wrote that in spare but that was years ago now.

      • Christine says:

        Meghan suggested they have legally changed all of their last names to Sussex, so there is absolutely nothing that William can do but look like more of a petty toad. I have a feeling that pit is bottomless, though, what a pathetic excuse for a man.

  6. MSJ says:

    The thing is the Windsor brand is so tarnished, such action against the Sussexes at this point will be beneficial to the Sussex brand. The further the Sussexes are from the Windsors the better they are viewed.

    At this point the Sussex brand has eclipsed the Windsor brand and the Windsors have been riding the Sussexes coattails for global relevance for years but especially in 2025.

  7. Al says:

    I call complete and utter BS on this trash article by this deranger (I won’t even call her name) who always looks like white powder. William would have no justification to write a letter patent (or whatever they call it) to remove Harry’s titles. Harry and Meghan not being working royals isn’t sufficient. This whole nonsense about comparing Harry and Meghan to Andrew and Fergie is disgusting. They need to focus on the real issue and leave Harry and Meghan out of it. Seriously!!!

  8. Hyacinth Bucket says:

    It doesn’t matter at this point. Andrew will be in Sandringham locked securely away, with as much hush money as he can get. Fergie might be tempted to cover her future expenses by dishing even more dirt.
    I do not think Harry or Meghan crave closeness to these people just for the sake of a surname.

  9. Alex Can says:

    Yeah I believe the toddler king will strip Harry and Meghan’s titles when he takes over. But I hope they’ll change their names from Windsor Mountbatten to Spencer when it happens, and that Harry will apply for US citizenship. When the time comes, renounce the monarchy Harry!

    • Hyacinth Bucket says:

      I’m sorry. With the oddity in the WH and the fact Americans voted him in twice, who wants to be a US citizen?

      • Nerd says:

        It’s better than being in the UK where they wouldn’t t have security and there are racist media attacking them everyday on behalf of a racist heir and his racist wife.

      • Eurydice says:

        We pledge our allegiance to the flag of our country, not to the president. I won’t give that up just because there’s an oaf temporarily in office.

    • Smatone99 says:

      They’re not legally changing their name to Mountbatten Windsor. They’ll legally change (if they have to) to Sussex.

  10. Julia says:

    Nobody should be worried about Harry and Meghan’s titles. Harry and Meghan are not criminals and have not been accused of a crime. If the Windsors decide to strip them of their titles they will have to explain why. Especially why they want to remove titles from two innocent mixed raced children. The whole thing is a slippery slope. It means anyone’s titles can be removed and what’s the point of hereditary monarchy? Ireland seems to be doing fine without it. Harry is Diana’s son he is not going to be ‘consigned to the bin of history’ because some lunatics want him to be. Harry and Meghan will be fine whatever happens. The more unhinged the monarchy and its supporters get, however, the faster they are heading towards their own demise!

    • sunnyside up says:

      We still learn about the Duke of Clarence at school, “The last creation in the Peerage of England was for George Plantagenet, brother of King Edward IV, in 1461. The Duke forfeited his title in 1478, after he had been convicted of treason against his brother. He allegedly met his end by being drowned in a butt of Malmsey (according to William Shakespeare).” Wiki. There was also a British Duke in the first WW who fought for Germany he lost his title too for treason. Harry hasn’t committed treason and he hasn’t had sex with a trafficked minor. Britain should be proud of Harry and what he has done to help those less fortunate than himself.

    • Nlopez says:

      Agree! Well said Julia👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  11. windyriver says:

    William won’t care about any response to him messing with the Sussex titles because he’s so fixated on destroying Harry. But having so very belatedly read the room on the still unfolding saga around Andrew’s fate, the institution will find it has stepped into another massive hornets nest if they try to justify actions against Harry and family.

    • Giddy says:

      Yes, he is fixated on destroying Harry. But what happens after Harry’s titles are removed? He will continue to support his philanthropic endeavors, Meghan will continue to develop her business interests, they will live happily in Montecito. What about William, the brother who couldn’t stand that his younger brother has surpassed him in every way. He won’t be able to do anything else to Harry. Meanwhile, Brits will wonder why keep the monarchy at all. A weak, lazy, vengeful king does not represent his country well.

      • Gtwiecz says:

        The whole thing will just backfire on William and his dull mumbling wife. They’re be even more unpopular.

  12. s808 says:

    So, what happens when the Sussexes have no titles and are just as popular and successful? I don’t think removing their titles will cure anyone’s feelings of jealousy, hatred or betrayal. The press will get maybe a year of stories, but then what? They’ll still be rich, visible, hardworking and charismatic. At least with the titles, the press and institution can delude the public into think it’s cause of royalty or whatever. The move seems short sighted just like chasing them off, removing security and removing frogmore. It doesn’t solve the “Sussex problem”.

    • Dee(2) says:

      Exactly. The ” Sussex Problem” is that they’re naturally more charismatic, and consciously more hard-working. That has nothing to do with the titles. And if they removed the titles, it gives even less justification into the British media for constantly reporting on them. Which the Royal is Media which is already circling the drain of relevancy and profitability probably will actually have an issue with.

      They don’t live in the country, they don’t get any taxpayer money, they don’t have titles, why are you writing 30 stories about them per day? And it won’t alleviate the real issue which is that your heir is an angry, petty, intellectually incurious, violent, ridiculously lazy spoiled dilettante. Married to someone who shares many of his same traits, with a healthy dose of victim complex. Good luck spinning that straw to gold.

    • Lorelei says:

      Exactly! The only people who would even care about this are idiots like Piers Morgan and the nutjob who wrote this article.

      • Gtwiecz says:

        The whole business of attacking the couple will be affected if they’re regular citizens. If that means they’ll stop abusing them, all is good.

  13. Tessa says:

    If st Kate had not let a fake story about Meghan stay in the media harry would not release the texts. St Kate was caught in a lie.

    • jais says:

      Yep. Context was left out of that re-telling. Had the lie been corrected for the public record, no text messages would have been needed. FAFO. The consequences of lying and scheming.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Yeah, if Kate hadn’t leaked that story to the press there would have been no need for Harry to tell the true story in his book.

    • Nerd says:

      There were two parts of this article that really stood out to me. “It was Harry who reprinted Kate’s private text messages with Meghan in Spare” was a confirmation that the text messages did indeed happen and further proof that Kate was the one who bullied Meghan and then lied about it to make Meghan into the bully. Kate purposely used her white woman tears to abuse a pregnant woman of color for years. It was only because it was confirmed to be a lie by Meghan in the Oprah interview and by Harry in Spare that the lie that Meghan made her cry couldn’t be used to abuse Meghan anymore. It was that lie that made a pregnant Meghan consider suicide while pregnant with Archie and contributed to her miscarriage of her second pregnancy. The part of the article where this lunatic says “It was Harry and Meghan’s cheerleader, their glorified biographer Omid Scobie, who named Kate and Charles as the so-called “Royal racist” was another confirmation that Harry and Meghan have been telling the truth because if the Fail thinks that Omid is so close to the Sussexes that he would know who had conversations with Harry about concerns about their children’s potential skin tone, then it means that they believe that it was Kate and Charles who had those racist talks with Harry, so therefore they believe that Kate and Charles were the unnamed “royal racists” mentioned during the Oprah interview. Interesting because during the Oprah interview everyone assumed that they were referring to only one person who had talks with Harry about their concerns and it was only with Omids book much later and Piers suggesting that they in the media knew it was more than one person, that the media has known all along that Harry and Meghan were telling the truth about their experiences in that family. This confirms it even more.

  14. K8erade says:

    The Sussexes – and Harry in particular, have been bread and circuses from the real issues going on with the Windsor family and the monarchy since he came of age. Whether Harry was present or not he was always the scapegoat since he became an adult. Diana however exposed the rot within the entire system and the public hasn’t ever really forgotten. If the Duke of Peggington wants to try to take away The Sussexes title, I think he’s going to find himself in world of hurt from a PR standpoint. Worse, I think it’ll get the public talking about why they even have a king.

    I think of Andrew in the same light I think of Rasputin in some respects. Rasputin and Andrew are both scandalous pedophiles who tarnished their respective monarchy’s reputation. But like we learned at the end of the Russian Empire, it’s easy to blame the problems of the monarchy on a single person but all respect of the monarchy has been lost by the time the issue has been settled (in Rasputin’s case – his death). The Russian Revolution happened regardless. The problem is the monarchy itself. I really believe history is repeating itself with the UK. I don’t think the monarchy will survive after this. Titles are meaningless.

  15. Mel says:

    New development, the aristocracy is kicking up a fuss already because they’re saying that Charles has NO POWER to remove titles without Parliament. This is just performative crap from Charles and the Windsors.

  16. Morning says:

    I think it is more likely H & M will be offered part time royal status to deflect from Andrew and give the press something else to chew on.

  17. Tis True, Tis True says:

    What William is missing is that Harry’s only “crime” was against the royal family itself. There are two views about that, either it’s brave truth telling or outrageous betrayal of a sacred trust. But basically an internal issue for the family.

    Andrew used the power and money of the royal family to consort with a ring of powerful pedophiles, participating in the rapes himself. Not an internal issue for the royal family.

    William conflating the two is a sign of his emotional immaturity and general unfitness for leadership. The media will cheer him on, curious how the public will react. The timing will be key. And William has zero ability to wait for the right moment.

    • Nerd says:

      William is also missing that if he sees what the Sussexes did as betrayal, it goes both ways which the two examples in this article are signs of the then Cambridges betrayals. The “reprint of private text messages” between Kate and Meghan was a result of them having to correct the lie that Kate allowed to be used (in the media for years) to abuse a pregnant woman of color. A betrayal by Kate that was not only a leak to the media but a deliberate lie. Then for a woman who Harry welcomed into his family and at times defended to be one of the people who racially attacked his biracial wife and future children with racist concerns about their skin tone, was yet another betrayal by Kate towards Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lilibet.

    • Deborah1 says:

      Andrew’s crimes are much more than that. They include shady business dealings and consorting with Chinese spies – all guaranteed to bring the monarchy into disrepute. Charles is in a precarious position too after his friendship with Britain’s worst paedophile, Jimmy Saville, and accepting bags of cash from Middle Eastern potentates. Not to mention his, and his heir’s “slumlord” behaviour with the royal duchies. Hypocrites, the lot of them!

  18. sunnyside up says:

    So the DM thinks that sticking up for your racially abused wife and telling the truth is as bad as having sex with a trafficked minor. Such a gleefully written article.

  19. Me at home says:

    Charles’ statement started with “His Majesty has today initiated a formal process to remove the Style, Titles and Honours of Prince Andrew.”

    Presumably, that means BP has started working with Parliament about the Letters Patent issue. Bulliam would also need to work with Parliament about the Sussexes, but he has much weaker grounds. Already, apparently, some in the House of Lords are complaining about the willy-nilly stripping of Andrew’s title (really, people?). So this reads like just more bluster from “when I’m king” Bulliam, who isn’t working with Parliament about titles now and doesn’t want to understand the process.

    • Amy Bee says:

      The Duke of York is just being removed from the peerage roll. There’s not going to be an act of Parliament to legally strip Andrew of his title.

      • Lorelei says:

        God, they take themselves so seriously! This is essentially meaningless in 2025. But Charles and William are coddled within their little circle of yes-men who make them feel like this is a life or death matter.

      • Me at home says:

        Thanks for the clarification. I googled and it looks like he can’t sit in Parliament now. But he wasn’t attending Parliament before, was he? Is this just more meaningless finger-wagging, or there any more to it than that?

  20. Sharon says:

    So happy that Harry found Meghan & they are not reliant on the RF for funds or living situations. They always treated Harry like a second class citizen, and his wife, even worse. That’s why royalists are pissed. That he spoke the truth (in one of the best selling autobiographies of all time), broke out of the Spare role, and now lives happily in California in a huge mansion, instead of a shabby basement where they had left him. They didn’t expect him to rise from the ashes, but he did. And they’ve been looking to clip his wings ever since. Sorry, but the RF is looking worse by the day, and H&M will be on the right side of history.

    • Chrissy says:

      This! Well said Sharon. Harry has succeeded because he more character, heart and chutzpah than all of the other Windsors put together. When he met his match in Meghan, they together became a powerhouse that has obviously became a threat to the lazy and vengeful Willnot. He can try to remove Harry’s Sussex dukedom title but it would have no meaning as his power is in his accomplishments and not his ducal name. His family will always be known as the family Sussex even without the dukedom attached to it. Willnot continuing with his vengeful attitude against Harry and his family will only result in more blowback on His Laziness himself.

  21. Tessa says:

    Scoot should be asked why titles should be removed instead of all the childish bluster. An attorney could challenge him and ask for real proof of which there is not . Charles himself did interviews and authorized a tell all book slamming his parents.

  22. Diane L says:

    what a hateful article. what is wrong with these rota rats? what a horrible way to make a living!

    these articles are only making me dislike w&k more and more.

  23. Julie says:

    Usual UK BS. The removal of all titles to prince andrew like more cosmetic than effective. I bet no proof would ever be provided. As for Harry, the heir can talk as much as he wants, Harry is a very efficient and appreciated public figure and is still very favorably associated to the UK. I simply don’t see why any British government would want to remove such a great ‘ambassador’.

    • Julie says:

      addendum : … ‘ambassador’ even if he does not officially represents the UK. His surprise visit in Ukraine earlier confirmed that he is in contact with the UK officials for some of his activities. Who knows what else he does for them that the public is not aware. I even have a feeling that maybe he does more for the UK than the heir.

      • Lorelei says:

        This is it, @Julie. This is the core of the problem that the BRF and the BM will never be able to change no matter what they do or call H&M. Harry is beloved because of who he is and what he’s done for other people, not because of his HRH title.

        Deep down the royal family must know this, they must see the greetings Harry receives everywhere he goes. And that is why they’re so angry, still, six years later, and why William can’t let this go. He knows he’s being outshined by his little brother and always will be (same goes for his wife always being outshined by Meghan). Removing titles that only aristos care about won’t change a thing.

  24. Amy Bee says:

    I think William stripping Harry’s title is inevitable and I hope Harry will look at it as being truly set free from the Royal Family with no absolutely obligations to them.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I hope that if/when it happens Harry will publish the 400 pages that he left out of his book.

    • Nerd says:

      The thing is that once Charles dies, Harry’s obligation to the monarchy will have ended anyway, so whatever Willy Wanka does won’t impact Harry or Meghan. William has dragged this on for years and it has been his and his lazy wife’s making that all of this happened. Instead of being decent upstanding people, they chose to be vengeful because otherwise they couldn’t compare with Harry and Meghan.

    • Smatone99 says:

      Harry will be absolutely fine. He doesn’t go around calling himself Prince Harry – everyone else does. He’s not getting people to kowtow to him. He’s been prepared to lose his style for 6 whole years and he will be fine. The rest of them are the ones that need titles and styles, he’s the only one who really doesn’t. I don’t believe he’ll relinquish the dukedom and I don’t believe parliament will back wee willy in attempting it. Andy got paid off to have his removed from the roll and formal name change, they’ve zero leverage on Harry.

  25. Chrissie T says:

    “ once the Sussexes stop being the convenient cover, then where will people look next”. The answer to this is obviously William himself. I think the unraveling is starting but it’s about funding, the crown estate properties, the duchies, the number of palaces that require full security, stolen jewels, their private wealth, bags of cash in exchange for honours, lack of transparency over how much tax they pay. I could go on. All this will end up on William’s desk when he is King. Not too mention how many forever homes does one couple need? William wants to slim down the monarchy, not a bad idea, but their lack of work ethic and an invisible Queen consort will make people more willing to challenge the Monarchy itself. I don’t believe he will touch any titles but Harry and Meghan will be fine either way, even more liberated than they are now.

    • Lorelei says:

      I love unintended consequences like the ones you described and cannot wait to see this inevitably backfire on William.

    • BASH says:

      I agree with you Chrissie. William’s reign is going to be **interesting.** The focus will be solely on him, his wife and kids. And then the media will start digging…..into their finances, properties, vacations, relationships, private time etc

  26. aquarius64 says:

    Busting Andrew down to commoner and retiring him to Sandringham is not enough. The Epstein scandal has stained the Windsors. CNN is running Andrew’s title strip by the hour…and the Sussexes’ name are out of it. That’s what making the Windsors mad, Epstein is not being tied to Harry andnMeghan.

    • Gtwiecz says:

      Harry and Meghan never met Epstein or Ghislaine. Good luck for these sick derangers.

    • Unblinkered says:

      & Aquarius64 – completely agree and would add that in addition to staining the monarchy generally it’s also made the country a laughing stock. I sense the UK Prime Minister has had to step in and take control because, let’s face it, the RF haven’t got a clue when it comes to public relations.

      W&K now have to be very careful, four homes they move between, endless luxury holidays all year, and both doing minimal work especially KM. It’s not on.

  27. maisie says:

    this screed from the Daily Fail may get clicks, but the public sentiment is far more positive towards Harry and Meghan than one would believe by reading this ish.

  28. Nic919 says:

    Andrew still has his titles and there is pushback from the House of Lords to remove his peerage. So the derangers need to take a seat because while there are despicable actions by Andrew that can be used as a basis to remove his peerage, none of that exists for Harry.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Maybe the push back is based on the fact that it should not be easy to remove peerage, Andrew not-withstanding…..

  29. GMHQ says:

    This is all nonsense being spread by Baldo’s butt kissers to flatter him and inflate his sense of power that he neither has nor will have when Chuck kicks the budget. Despite what is being seen with Pedo, Baldo will have to go to Parliament and Harry would love to force a debate on this in public as to Baldo’s reason why. Will not go well for Baldo and Harry has demonstrated with numerous lawsuits, he will not shy away from a public fight. I pity William. He is outclassed and he knows it. Nerve gonna happen.

  30. Angied says:

    If Beatrice and Eugenie are to keep theirs why would they remove Harry’s. They come after him in the LOS. Furthermore do Harry and Meghan look worried about it, Seems like more of their supporters are more worried about it them him. People really need to calm down and stop the histrionics. Seems the Windsors have bigger issues to be worried about and hope that the plebs won’t rush the palace with pitchforks and demand heads. Comparing Harry to what that disgusting perv did is wrong and needs to stop. Harry and Meghan just moved away and no longer work for the firm and have nothing to do with Andrew predicament. Any discussion about Andrew needs to be totally about him. Found out today that there is more damaging information coming out about him and there are many more emails hence the palace trying to get ahead of it. Unfortunately for them it’s too late.

    • Elly says:

      I just read that in Andrew Lownie’s book he claims (verified by multiple sources) that after Andrew was made a Trade Envoy he was in Thailand and he had 40 prostitutes delivered to his hotel over 4 days! Sounds like he had/has a sexual addiction.

      • Elly says:

        Just to clarify my previous comment, author Andrew Lownie claims he had multiple sources verify that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor had 40 prostitutes in 4 days while in Thailand on a taxpayer funded trip.

  31. maja says:

    Then let them try. The world is watching. This family has always misjudged the public. Harry and Meghan will handle every situation with dignity and, yes, “royalty”. The Londoners have rarely succeeded in doing so. If they don’t finally rein in their palace mob and set limits for the press, it will end badly. Let them strip them of all their titles. What will remain is nothing but rotten wood. For far too long, things have been covered up, manipulated, ignored and the wrong advisors have been listened to. So be it.

  32. Meme says:

    Because I’m a republican, I’m quite happy for any or all of them to have their titles taken away (it’s a start!) but it really makes me feel sick that the establishment are desperately trying to convince everyone that these two things are somehow the same and deserve the same punishment:

    A man credibly accused of involvement in sex trafficking of minors, and his ex who took a pedo’s cash

    A man who wrote a book that’s mean about his brother, and his wife who sells jam

    God, it’s insane.

    • Maja says:

      You know that’s not true, right?
      Prince Harry hasn’t written a nasty book about his brother, nor is his wife’s identity defined by the fact that she creates and sells beautiful things. But you know why you’re saying such nasty things about Prince Harry and Meghan? Have you read Spare? Are you familiar with Harry and Meghan’s work?

      • Elly says:

        @Meme said that’s what the “establishment “ is trying to convince people of, not that she believes that herself, she thinks “it’s insane”.

  33. ParkRunMum says:

    I *really* don’t think they’ve thought this through: effectively what they’re telling the British public is, “right. He’s a commoner now. He’s been humiliated enough, that’s going to sting. Now let’s turn the page. We consider the matter closed. Move on, move on!” ….people will rightly conclude — not illogically — that the BRF considers “commoners” as beneath contempt, and that the status of any member of the British public, in the eyes of the BRF, is something on par with dirt. Worse, the public cannot possibly expect to reconcile its cost-of-living crisis with what they are witnessing in Andrew’s circumstances, even after being demoted. He’ll still live in a free mansion, attended by servants, endowed with police-funded protection — what irony abounds — and remain free to travel and mingle with like-minded cronies and cringe-making associates. None of that spells punishment. The BRF is literally powerless to set their own house in order. So, what on earth is the point of them???? Their only power is influence. If this is the best they can do, it’s over.

  34. MsIam says:

    So, Andrew gets a new home for free, it could be forever before his title is “stripped “ and he will get a payoff from Charles in exchange for not using his titles. He moves to Sandringham where he will have plenty of room to host his beloved shooting parties away from the prying eyes of the media. I’m sure money to buy Fergie a new place will be included if she doesn’t go to Sandringham with him. All the people who matter to Andrew will still call him “sir” trust and believe that. Even in the UK media they are quick to point out “But he hasn’t been convicted of anything!” So it really sucks to be Andrew, poor thing. Also, if the matter has to go through Parliament, then why are they saying William can strip Harry of anything?

  35. Ohwell says:

    Go Bill , take the titles!

    I am over this title taking… just take it and go!

    • Lorelei says:

      Right? At this point, it’s so tiresome reading constantly about William going on about how he’s going to do it, eventually, someday. He never STFU about it.

      It will actually be a relief when we don’t have to keep hearing about his future, vengeful plans.

  36. paintybox says:

    My money is on Meghan to develop her product lines into a solid multi-million dollar empire and the Sussexes are not going to care if they have titles or not. He’s still going to be the son of a king, grandson of a long-reigning queen, Meghan is still going to be married into the royal family and their kids will still be royal grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Ugh, that look on William’s face in the photo – he’s such a pompous moron.

  37. Ohn says:

    I’m getting mixed signals from all of this. On one hand people are saying that titles don’t matter, the monarchy is obsolete, and they all should be stripped of public funding. On the other is the argument that Harry should keep his titles because it’s his birthright, a gift from QEII, part of Meghan’s brand, etc. Personally, I’d be happy if H&M stopped using Sussex to show solidarity with anti-monarchists, remove the stigma that comes from association with William, and hopefully force the tabloids to find another target. This is just my opinion.

    • jais says:

      The Sussexes giving up their titles would not force the tabloids to find another target. They would still be just as hounded and targeted by the tabloids. They offered to give them up already and were not taken up on it. So now the onus and effort is on Charles or William to do it. I lean towards all or nothing. Andrew is still a prince, despite all the bluster about titles that’s being done to protect the opaqueness of their financials and CE leases. He’s a prince who is also a sexual deviant. Abolish all the titles and the monarchy or none at all. Otherwise it’s just a firm that’s hiring and firing. But again the Sussexes offered once before. Let William and Charles make the work and effort to do it now. Especially William bc as we know he needs a goal to do any work at all.

    • Maja says:

      Titles are not meaningless in this patriarchal system, which has created privileges for the few at the expense of the many. Why should Harry voluntarily offer to give up his name through no fault of his own while this system still exists? He has served sincerely throughout his life and is modest and grateful. He has repaid renovation costs, even though the brutality of this system towards him is unprecedented. Without taxpayers’ money and not at the expense of the population, he does good work around the world that is clearly visible for the benefit of communities. The royals only work to maintain the monarchy and increase their own wealth. The latter is always blamed on the Sussexes, but there is a king who sells marmalade and terrible knick-knacks, and royal landlords who are not among the most recommendable. Harry and his wife show what “royal” can really mean, without any support and with constant attacks from the royals and the press against him that are so destructive that it is frightening.

      Titles are meaningless in that they do not promote the development of individuals or communities and embody an outdated patriarchal system that does nothing good for anyone else. A real prince without the bad patriarchal archetypes (there are good ones too, as can be seen in the Sussexes) should be a role model for integrity, honour, dignity, humility, gratitude and service. The Sussexes embody all of these qualities.

      • Ohn says:

        As many others have expressed, the more H&M distance themselves from the toxic monarchy, the better it is for their well-being. There is no moral victory in exposing–once again–the racist motives of William should he pursue removing Harry’s titles. And if Wiliam does take action against his brother, it won’t convince any of his (William’s) supporters that he is a morally bankrupt person. We must never lose sight of what The British Royal Family are: British, patriarchal, racist and increasingly obsolete.

  38. Kate says:

    What exactly do they think will happen when he does it (he will) ? When it doesn’t bother them, when it doesn’t change their lives(it wont) what will they whine about next? I want him to do it, like today please, so they will shut up about it. But I know they will just find something else. I think they are probably already legally sussex, so they will whine about that. No one likes Harry and Meghan because of their titles, I would say a majority of supporters are not monarchist and would like it all abolished but while it exist they should have what is their right to have under that system.

    • Ohn says:

      Popularity based on titles and popularity based on personality are indeed two very different angles when it comes to the existence of the BRF. HRH Prince Henry, Duke of Sussex, aka Harry, is generally well-liked outside of the UK. I’m not that familiar with his reception in the US but I know that Meghan is most often referred to as Meghan Markle, similar to how Catherine is still called Kate Middleton by UK press. I think it’s a continuing distraction to speculate on how William will address the ‘Sussex problem’.

  39. MSJ says:

    The Windsors are corrupt deviants. Follow the money. This is an establishment coverup. They want their corrupt financial dealings (Crown Estate, Duchy of Lancaster, Duchy of Cornwall, Sovereign Grant) to remain opaque.

    The family/institution is a toxic, dysfunctional ‘mafia’ operation. It’s why they ‘hate’ Prince Harry for leaving and speaking about how the sausage is made (the links, via the courtiers, between the family and the media as well as between the family and RAVEC).

    The further distance the Sussexes put between them and the Windsors, the better off they are. As Harry said, he has a clear conscience about everything he has done. This current Windsor saga further cements the fact that he made the right choice to leave and eventually move to the USA with his young family.

  40. QuiteContrary says:

    Meghan will be shilling “As Ever overstock on deep discount” on QVC, Maureen? You mean the woman whose product drops are eagerly anticipated … the woman who sells out pieces of apparel just by wearing them … the woman who sits with her husband at a World Series game in the owners’ box? That Meghan?

    Maureen writes that “To know that Meghan and Harry may now be consigned to the dustbin of Royal history … is perhaps the most tantalizing and satisfying finale of the modern age.”

    Get therapy, Maureen. You need to reevaluate your priorities and probably your whole life.

  41. bisynaptic says:

    “The sun begins to set over Montecito — permanently.“
    — She has some truly dark delusions.

    • bisynaptic says:

      This lady is stuck very far up her own arse.

    • Maja says:

      Outrage and hate journalism of the worst kind. Comparable to what Jeremy Clarkson said about Meghan. I find it utterly dehumanising and malicious. With his deeply humiliating and scathing remark that they belong in the bin, he borders on fascism. It is frightening what hateful and destructive things are allowed to be said in newspapers today. IPSO inquiries@ipso.co.uk or on the website.

      • Maja says:

        And these people, of course, manage to distract from what Virginia describes in her book with their hateful articles about Harry and Meghan. I’ve started reading it, and it’s… no one should have to go through what the victims went through. That’s what people like this author want to obscure with all their malice. It’s about maintaining the power of the palaces and the right-wing press. And keeping people ignorant and outraged.

    • jais says:

      Oh dear, not a gorgeous sunset in Montecito! Say it isn’t so. I get the writer was being metaphorical but meh it still doesn’t hit. Bc the sussexes have a happy family with beautiful sunsets in Montecito, with or without titles.

  42. Tina says:

    So from what I’m reading this morning there is already some push back to removing Andrew’s titles and a member of the HOL has come out and stated that the King cannot do this without Parliament. I don’t care. Regarding Harry and Meghan, removing their titles would be so stupid but I do think William will try. Who cares? The only people who will cheer this is the shrinking group of royalists. They already are fans so the BrF is just going to look petty in the eyes of the world especially in light of how they protected Andrew. People like Harry and Meghan because of who they are not their titles. Once the dopamine hit for William wears off he’s still going to trapped in his gilded cage while Harry is free.

    • Cee says:

      Some people care because titles are intangible property and a Monarch has no power to seize said properties. It would be like someone saying they’re taking your house because it’s been decided you can’t have it anymore.
      It is also being discussed that Andrew has not been investigated nor tried, and thus not found guilty of any crime; therefore, there are no grounds to legally seize his property (peerage), and the Monarch has no legal ground to tell Parliament what to do. This is why Charles only removed him from a list of peerages – it effectively prevents Andrew from using his titles in legal documents and address, but it does not remove them (legally)

      Anyway, Andrew is still, to this day, HRH The Prince Andrew, Duke of York + other titles. Once a Warrant or new LP is issued and he loses HRH and Prince, he will be His Grace The Duke of York + other titles (actually, the style for dukes is extremely funny: The Most High, Noble and Potent Prince His Grace X, Duke of Y). The only silver lining is that with no son to inherit, the present creation of his titles dies with him.

      • Mayp says:

        @cee, I made a similar comment that didn’t get posted. Andrew is still the Duke of York, he has just lost his styling (I think that’s the correct term!).

        Also, the powers of the monarch under a royal warrant, while they include creating a new peerage do not include removing one from the Roll of Peerage. So, yes, I could see a quite a few people, particularly in the House of Lords, contesting this.

        Also, I could see people objecting to a monarch being able to do something he or she has no legal power to do. This is yet another example of the power that the monarch has to improperly control the government. I can understand people taking issue with that.

      • jais says:

        At this point, though, has he lost his styling? I’m still confused. An LP by the monarch has yet to be written. Is that the same as a royal prerogative or does that have to do with the dukedom peerage which is supposed to go through parliament? I don’t get it. And btw, all the leases for all the royals should be made public including the heir.

      • Mayp says:

        It’s confusing because what Charles did is not legal. Once someone’s role in the line of succession to a title is proved, or a new title conferred by warrant, they are added to the Role of Peerage. The language therein says something to the effect :of: someone has to be on the Roll to be called by their title. It does not mean that Andrew’s duked them and subsidiary titles have been removed. That would have to be done by Parliament.

        Thus, Andrew still has all of his titles and Charles would need to issue a letter patent to remove his Princely title. So Andrew is in some kind of limbo right now where he is the Duke of York but by this illegal maneuver he is not supposed to be referred as such.

      • Mayp says:

        To clarify@jais, when I said styling I meant how they are referred to officially. Not their honorifics or hrh. For example, Louise is a princess by birthright but she has simply never been referred to as such. She is “styled’ now as the daughter of a Duke and previously as the daughter of an Earl, in both instances of which she is referred to as ” Lady, “

  43. HuffnPuff says:

    If this is Scooter King’s first move, he will show that he’s no better than Trump. Look at how Trump is abusing his position to get back at people who rightfully went after him. Scooter king’s brother wrote a book that included recollections of things that the Wails’ did. How is that worthy of removing titles? Not to mention, the Sussexes had their British home taken away. But Andrew gets a home that he won’t have to pay anything for? And it will be on secure grounds? Yup. Time for the whole thing to go away. It’s unsustainable. It’s ridiculous. It’s unnecessary.

  44. Gemini says:

    “In that light, Andrew feels more like a pawn removed by William to clear the way for his real target: Harry.”

    In her rush to congratulate Scooter King, she is saying the quiet part loud. How ever, I think Chucks outmaneuvered Scooter. With Andrew out of the picture there is no excuse to hide behind and “non-working royals” will not be enough of a reason to strip everybody of their titles. Being surrounded by common folk as his family, how is the Scooter king justify the money from the two duchies if he ascends before George is of age?

  45. smee says:

    Honestly, it might be a good thing. Just to be free of this tedious storyline and William having hand. (Who/What would he b!tch about then?) They’ve shown that they can create their own story and money. Unlike Andrew, they haven’t committed any crimes, so it is unfair, but the RF is a sinking ship as an institution and they are terrible at being a family. No loss, imo

  46. Cee says:

    He can remove HRH and Prince from Harry and his children, but the titles Harry holds can only be taken by both Houses of Parliament, as they are considered intangible property. Good luck with that. Archie will be the 2nd Duke of Sussex.

  47. jferber says:

    Why can’t he do anything to clear the way for work, instead of vengeance, vanity and vacations. He’s already a shit king with his small r royalty. That only applies for doing anything real for the people. he Sucks with a big S.

  48. Deborah1 says:

    This rubbish from the Daily Mail makes me sick to the stomach. This was published in the Daily Telegraph today (another Tory newspaper) and it’s interesting because it shows that the U.K. Government will only go so far to appease the Royals. I think it bodes well for Prince Harry because compared to Andrew, he has done nothing wrong and the Government knows it, as do those 14 Commonwealth countries. I’m sure they all know that Prince William is a vindictive, vengeful bully.

    “The Government is refusing demands to change the law to remove Andrew Mountbatten Windsor from the line of succession.
    MPs across multiple parties, including a Labour minister, have backed new legislation that would prevent Andrew from ever becoming king.
    But a No 10 spokesman said: “There are no plans … The Government is committed to using parliamentary time to improve the lives of working people.”
    Asked if the Government would seek to block a private member’s Bill, the spokesman replied: “There are no plans to make legislative changes.
    “Obviously the provisions for MPs to put forward legislation are well-established. Those would be decisions for MPs and Parliament.”
    Despite having been stripped of all his royal titles, Andrew is still eighth in line to the throne. An Act of Parliament would need to be introduced to change this, in addition to consent from all 14 Commonwealth countries.”

  49. Nerd says:

    I don’t care how many times William’s media friends say or write it, William didn’t have anything to do with what is happening with Andrew, which by the way isn’t nearly enough. This is all Charles and it’s a weak veil to hide the fact that he isn’t really punishing Andrew with what he deserves, which is an investigation into what he’s done and what his dead friend pedo friend did. The truth is that if William had any part of this he would have done this sooner so that he could achieve his greatest goal of punishing his brother for being better than him in every way. Powerful men wouldn’t be forced to chauffeur around a pedo uncle. They can’t even force him to do the job he’s being paid to do, but we’re to believe they “forced” him to drive a pedo in the car with his wife and kids. I didn’t forget the rumors before Kate went missing that one of her old friends said that she slept with Andrew. William having power now and taking only kingly roles would mean that he wouldn’t have to wait for his reign to remove titles from the Sussexes and the fact that this person is losing it over the possibility shows his and this persons racist fever dream of removing titles from the only biracial people in that family.

  50. Deborah1 says:

    I see this article in the Mail has been written by Maureen Callaghan. Please do not take any notice of it because she is a deranged b**ch. She is one of the nastiest writers on their payroll – worse than Platell, Moir and Vine. She sticks the knife into anybody and everybody.

    • Libra says:

      Who could be worse than Platell? She is full blown evil.

      • Deborah1 says:

        Believe me, Callahan is worse. She’s an American MAGA nut for starters. The only thing she will be remembered for is writing a nasty book on the Kennedys and their womenfolk which was serialised in the Daily Mail (where else?).

  51. BJ says:

    I really don’t call other women bitches but this bitch is totally crazy. How in the world are they comparing Harry & Meghan to his aunt and uncle? There is not a comparison in the world. She, and others like her, need to be publicly flogged to stir up this kind of crap with the Sussexes and the public. They’ve done no harm to anyone but, sure, let’s try to compare them to sexual deviants that engaged services from sex traffickers, knowing they were criminals finding these vulnerable minor girls. They knew what they were but took money and girls from them.

    Harry is doing something particularly inspiring for military folks that have to deal with a new reality with their bodies. These athletes inspire me and the world. Sure, let’s take his stupid title because he left. It will hurt him because these people (aristos) live for feeling on top of the human heap. Even Harry. I read the book. He’s very proud of his family although they are all severely dysfunctional. I think if you’re marrying non-aristocrats you shouldn’t feel there’s a difference in all humans but the UK is obsessed with titles and sorting people.

  52. NotSoSocialB says:

    “If William is just getting started, he surely knows the world is cheering him on, that any further attacks from his brother and sister-in-law, those epic dramatists, would be laughed off and dismissed.”

    These people are deeply disturbed, utterly unhinged. H & M just keep living their peaceful and happy lives, not giving a rat’s ass about all the dysfunction in the BRF. Frankly, they’d probably be happier being completely disaccociated witht the BRF, but then what would these lunatics at the tabs write about?

  53. Dainty Daisy says:

    From Meghan Sussex to Meghan Spencer.
    From Lilibet Diana Sussex to Lilibet Diana Spencer. Please do take the titles away!!

  54. Lady Digby says:

    Over the past 5 years Harry and Meghan have grown happier as they settled in America and have a circle of family and friends around them that they love and trust. They are thriving domestically and publicly despite the ongoing hate campaign. Back here the past 5 years have been unkind to Will and Kate. They both look haggard and unwell and uneasy in public together. They barely work and seemed forced and uncomfortable engaging with people. The 2022 tour was disastrous. PoW titles haven’t made them happy have they? Happiness and contentment and personal satisfaction aren’t related to titles.

  55. MsKrisTalk says:

    To be honest, I think the people are ready to strip the monarchy away from that family. I’m seeing more commenters in the pro-Kate and William groups openly talking about the end of the monarchy and admitting that they don’t believe that Kate had cancer. These commenters are showing more empathy towards Meghan and Harry and admitting that the Wales are lazy and jealous. I don’t think Harry and Meghan care if their titles are stripped from them because they outshine the monarchy. I think the citizens of the stale island would be angry if it happens because of their love for Harry and Princess Diana. William is not a strategic thinker and doesn’t understand that he would be opening Pandora’s box. It’s crazy that it keeps getting brought up.

    • Gabby says:

      Especially since the Waleses were stupid enough to remind everyone of their ski trip by issuing a statement about winning their lawsuit.

      All it does is spotlight that they took about 5 vacations in 4 months, several of which featured the frail snowflake princess taking part in a physically demanding sport. But don’t expect her to work because she’s still recovering from the “cancer”.

    • HuffnPuff says:

      It would be awesome if someone who treated her would leak what really happened. Did she have cancer or didn’t she?

  56. phlyfiremama says:

    He will be remembered as the pegging king, Prince Harry will ALWAYS be Prince Harry. They can try whatever desperate measures they want, but HARRY is the one loved by the people. He always will be~he inherited the love bestowed upon Diana. Take their titles, the time for effective use of that as a threat has long since passed

  57. Paisley25 says:

    Trying to take away royal titles from non-working, non-criminal relatives is funny to me. Where does it end? If Harry’s dukedom is removed, what about the currently hereditary dukedoms of Kent and Gloucester, which will go to their non-working sons in a few years? What about the Earldoms of Snowden and Wessex which are also hereditary and currently held by Princess Margaret’s non-working son and Prince Edward’s son James, who is intended to be non-working. Then do we keep going further back and removing all titles for lines that used to be royal? And what about the other Dukes and Earls who were just given titles because someone a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago was a friend of the monarch?

    Start pulling at that thread, and the whole system falls apart. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

    • Gina says:

      This! Indeed, if it’s possible to remove someone’s titles on a whim, then the system that’s based on “blood privilege” becomes pointless.

  58. Ennie says:

    I hope Andrew writes a tell all, or maybe even Fergie, I suspect the Windsors will pay them to keep them or the princesses o writing tell alls.
    Ofc there is always the possibility that Andrew is being threatened with his daughters somehow.

  59. Gabby says:

    It is my sincere hope that Harry is just waiting for his father to die before starting the process of becoming a US citizen. He would have to renounce his own titles in that case anyway, correct?

    I suppose such activities are paused during the MAGA government shutdown, but imagine the poetry of Harry taking the oath of citizenship on July 4, 2026, the 250th anniversary of telling the British monarchy to shove it.

  60. Lili says:

    IMO there is more disturbing news coming down the pipeline. That’s why W&K are hiding out on vacation and B&E have flown out to another country.

  61. martha says:

    If he does, he’ll botch it and come out looking even more of an ass.

  62. Henny Penny says:

    William truly is an idiot if he thinks removing his brother’s birthright is going to go his way. I know William is incurious, doesn’t read, and doesn’t care about history, but he doesn’t even know his own mother’s history and what happened when the Firm tried to take away the title of the woman who would become known as the People’s Princess. I can’t wait to see how the world reacts when they try the same thing with her son. There is zero way that Little Lord William Fauntleroy comes out as anything other than a petty tyrant and a global laughingstock. In fact, this has gone on long enough. I actually hope William does this because I am certain it will blow up in his face spectacularly.

    My only concern is that this article comes straight from the lips of William “This is William’s Monarchy Now”, and obviously William and Kate are cozy with Trump. It’s been years since I’ve seen them as happy and relaxed as they were hanging out with him and Melania. I think the foursome are birds of a certain feather. And it would be just like people of that certain feather to want to make an example of Harry and Meghan because they give a lot of hope to a lot of people, which Trump et al hate. Hopefully, it is true they have a back-up plan because I find the phrase “sunset on Montecito” and “flotsam looking for a shore” frankly rather ominous.

  63. AC says:

    Well then go ahead. Without HM having any ties to that family, the BRF as a brand will even lose more of their relevance. HM are the most googled members of that family and they have more clicks and views than any of the leftovers, with the BM monetizing those clicks and engagements. HM doesn’t need these titles. They are popular around the world. I read a post on buzzfeed that Hs attempt of an American accent has been trending and has won over many Americans with his humble attempt 😊. He’s becoming more accepted in the U.S. and has fit in embracing American culture.

  64. Henny Penny says:

    I wanted to pop back in and leave a comment for Kaiser. I am curious about your thoughts about this, but I haven’t seen anything here about the rising number of YouTube AI accounts showing Prince William, Kate, and often the kids as well, holding hands, laughing together, and otherwise acting like a happy, normal family. These AI videos are presented as real and often have hundreds of comments from either bots also pretending these videos are real, or actual people who think they are real. These videos show William and Kate in clothes they’ve appeared in at events, but these video show them laughing together, holding hands, and showing affection towards one another, or their children if present. I’d love to hear Kaiser’s thoughts on these videos and if celebitchy is also noticing a rise. Could William and Kate think they could maintain an AI monarchy?

  65. Chelsea says:

    “This is William’s monarchy now. In that light, Andrew feels more like a pawn removed by William to clear the way for his real target: Harry”‘
    “Once Andrew stops being the convenient cover, then where will people look next?”

    What’s wrong with these people that they think these are ok things to say out loud? Andrew was known besties with a pedophile and was accused himself but he’s just a ‘convenient cover’ and a ‘pawn’ for William to get back at his brother? Wtf?!! These people can’t even pretend this was about doing the right thing and these deranged monarchists are the reason why the royals think they can get away with it.

  66. yellow says:

    I don’t know how many Celebitchies listen to James O’Brien; but he had Emily Maitlis on and she reported that sources told her that William stated concerns about his uncle’s mental health, and that he and his wife do a lot of work in that area.

    Did William’s PR steal that line from Prince Edward, who stated concerns about Prince Harry’s mental health when his security was withdrawn?

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