Lizza: Robert Kennedy Jr. sent gross ‘canyon’ poetry to Olivia Nuzzi

Well, Ryan Lizza released Part 2 of his Substack series on Olivia Nuzzi and her many affairs with much-older freaks. Lizza and Nuzzi were together for years, living together and engaged even after her 2020 affair with Mark Sanford in South Carolina, which was one of the big reveals of Lizza’s “Part 1” Substack. The other reveal was that Nuzzi was a sugar baby to Keith Olbermann when she was in college and in her early 20s. After Olbermann, Lizza possibly left his wife and kids for Nuzzi, and then she kept cheating on him with even older men. Like Robert Kennedy Jr. Lizza’s Part 2 gets into some more of the private fallout after Nuzzi’s affair with Sanford, but the bulk of it is about Robert Kennedy’s batsh-t crazy poetry and how Nuzzi was doing work for his campaign while she was technically a political reporter, and a lot more. You can read the full piece here (you have to pay for the whole thing). Here are some highlights (and no, I’m not including the grossest parts):

Kennedy’s poetry to Olivia Nuzzi: “Yr open mouth awaiting my harvest,” Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now the Secretary of Health and Human Services, had written to my then-fiancé. “Drink from me Love.” He continued, “I mean to squeeze your cheeks to force open your mouth. I’ll hold your nose as you look up at me to encourage you to swallow. ‘Dont spill a drop’. I am a river You are my canyon. I mean to flow through you. I mean to subdue and tame you. My Love.”

Nuzzi claimed she only slept with Mark Sanford once: I did not believe Olivia’s version of events. I believed she had engaged in a long affair with Mark. She insisted that while her “infatuation” lasted months, it was one-sided and they only ever slept together that one night. She insisted that I search her phone and laptop to corroborate her story, but, of course, she had already erased everything that was incriminating.

What Nuzzi did not delete after her affair with Sanford: Olivia had written a tabloid-style news story about how “sources in Washington, D.C. and Charleston have been buzzing recently about an unexpected romance: Mark Sanford and Olivia Nuzzi,” who was described as “one of the most famous political reporters in America,” a “blonde beauty” who “gained critical acclaim as a skilled profile writer, gaining access to the powerful and the mysterious and turning it into pure journalistic gold.” Olivia told me she wrote the fake article as an exercise to think through what might be the worst that could be said publicly if the affair became known, though that didn’t really make sense to me given the piece’s tone.

Nuzzi “conquers” older men: I eventually came to believe Olivia’s account of the affair, but it took her a long time to get over Mark. Olivia develops addictive-like attachments to the men she loves, who are generally older and more powerful, and she pursues them until she conquers them. “I’m three for three,” she said to me in a moment of levity after the affair with Mark.

Nuzzi swore up & down that she never had a physical affair with Kennedy: Olivia first interviewed Bobby in July 2023 for a piece about Fran Drescher that was never published. She had texted me at the time. “Just talked to RFK,” she said. “He’s crazy.” She loved crazy people, so it should have been a red flag, though I thought nothing of it. But a seed had been planted, and she soon returned to L.A. and interviewed him during a hike, when he grabbed her hand hard and wouldn’t let go, which, she told me and others, had frightened and disturbed her. Her profile of Bobby came out in November. It was now August. Could it really be possible that they carried on for all this time, and she never touched him, at least not since he grabbed her on that hike?

She was deeply in love with Kennedy: I have never been able to convey her near-total obsession with Bobby properly. What I can say with authority is that it seeped into every corner of her life, affected every relationship she had, and drove every decision she made in late 2023 and all of 2024, including her catch-and-kill operations on his behalf, the campaign strategy memos she wrote him, and the other journalistic transgressions that have still not been disclosed.

She was afraid that Kennedy would kill her: “People are going to ask me what happened,” I told Olivia, “and I’m going to tell the truth.” She seemed paralyzed with fear, and I frankly didn’t quite understand why. “If anyone ever finds out,” Olivia [later] told me, “I’m afraid Bobby will kill me.”

[From Ryan Lizza’s Substack]

Like Lizza, I don’t believe Nuzzi’s claims that she never had a physical affair with Kennedy, nor do I believe that she only slept with Mark Sanford once. This seems to be the key observation too: “She loved crazy people, so it should have been a red flag.” Like attracts like. Birds of a feather. While the details about Kennedy’s gross poetry are notable, I’m much more interested in the years-long inappropriate behavior and the complete lack of ethics. There’s a reason why New York Magazine let Nuzzi go without burning her or blacklisting her – they were covering up her huge ethics breaches because they didn’t want larger questions being asked of what they knew and for how long. They didn’t want to know how far her ethical lapses went back. And don’t forget Lizza’s unethical behavior too – he sat on intimate knowledge of Kennedy’s behavior when sharing it would have arguably saved lives by sinking Kennedy’s nomination to HHS. Instead, Lizza chose to parcel out this information at a specific moment to get back at Olivia Nuzzi as she tries to promote HER book.

Speaking of all of that, Nuzzi is (as of this moment) still the West Coast editor of Vanity Fair, a cushy job she got earlier this year. Well, VF’s new editor-in-chief has ordered a review into Nuzzi’s past conduct following the publication of Lizza’s essays. VF’s spokesperson told the NY Times: “We were taken by surprise, and we are looking at all the facts.”

Additionally, Lizza’s lawyers have now sent a legal threat to Nuzzi’s publisher and editor because of Nuzzi’s claims, in her book American Canto, that Lizza confessed to her that he had an affair with a Democratic aide. Lizza called the story “false and defamatory.”

Photos courtesy of Lizza’s IG, Nuzzi’s IG, Cover Images and HBO/Real Time with Bill Maher.

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34 Responses to “Lizza: Robert Kennedy Jr. sent gross ‘canyon’ poetry to Olivia Nuzzi”

  1. Giddy says:

    You didn’t print the grossest part? What you did print is absolutely nauseating! I will not be looking at the rest of RFK Jr’s so called poetry. I guess she was stupid enough to believe that these gruesome verses expressed love, when really all they are is an exercise in rampant narcissism.

    Kaiser, I’m so sorry that you had to read the rest of his horrible “poems”.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      That was my reaction. I read the part quoted in the piece yesterday and was nauseated for the rest of the day. Now I learn there are even more gross excerpts. This freak creeps me out so bad. How can anyone stand to look at him, much less touch him? Also, what strikes me about the so-called “poetry” in the text is the wish to dominate and use force. On top of everything else, RFK jr. sounds like a rapist.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yeah. Ick. I’m going to have to watch at least an hour of baby elephant videos to get that out of my mind.

    • Alarmjaguar says:

      @Giddy exactly my reaction, those were so gross. This is such a mess. Absolutely no one is coming off well here!

    • Happy Peregrine says:

      What in the rapist hell did I just read.

    • Rosie says:

      These parts are gross but the rest is REALLY gross lol. Like, gross s*x acts gross.

    • SarahCS says:

      And me, I need to go and bleach my brain and (I think fortunately) I cannot comprehend what could be more gross than that. Yikes.

      I’m also unclear how isn’t way this could be considered ‘poetry’. Bleugh.

    • Lorelei says:

      What can be worse than that first paragraph?! It gets grosser??

      Ridiculous for VF to act like they had no idea she was problematic when they hired her…clearly they were aware of what happened at NY Mag.

      • Beck says:

        Exactly what I was thinking. These are the people entrusted to report what’s going on with Presidential candidates and current news. Burn it all freaking down. How the hell did she get another fancy cushy media job after this fiasco?

        Nuzzi is out here screwing whatever powerful old man she can. Lizza knew but kept it secret because he was engaged to that mess. (Why?!) The editors at various publications are covering it up.

        Lizza is out here telling his side just trying to get back at her for breaking their supposed NDA. It’s a complete shitshow. He comes across as crazy as she does. And he is 20 years older than her. Did he cheat on his wife with her who is his age?

        Seriously, we do need to burn it all down. I went to see who is publishing her book. It’s Simon & Schuster. The blurb is disgusting in describing this steaming pile of crap.

  2. Amy Bee says:

    First of all why did Vanity Fair hire Nuzzi in the first place and shouldn’t they have done their due diligence before hiring her? Did they know she was writing a book before hiring her?

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      The only upside to this deplorable story is we are learning how deep the rot goes in the American media. Burn it all down.

    • Jess says:

      I was shocked by that too. How is Vanity Fair surprised by any of this? And yea- that “poem” is disgusting and creepy.

    • jais says:

      VF looks bad for hiring her. Discredits the magazine and adds to its already floundering reputation. Superficial journalism. Imo anyways.

    • Happy Peregrine says:

      @Amy Bee – exactly. People can’t hire a known entity and public – ish figure and then be like – oh wow. We didn’t realize! We thought it was a joke.

      That seems to be happening at every level of our society right now.

    • orangeowl says:

      This is what I keep thinking about (I’m trying to bleach my brain about everything else). I thought VF was one of the good, or at least better, guys. As jais said, their decision to hire her totally discredits them.

      In contrast to this mess, Caroline Kennedy Scholssberg’s daughter, Tatiana, is facing terminal cancer with courage and grace. She write about it in the New Yorker and somehow found the strength to call out RFK Jr for all he’s doing to undermine public health and medical research. It’s a harrowing piece.

      • RMS says:

        What Tatiana has endured in the past almost 2 years is beyond imagination. I’ve had the same procedures, but using my own cells, she has had TWO donor stem cell transplants and a donor car-t cell procedure. Just ONE of those 3 is grueling, terrifying and life changing. Her courage and strength in exposing her private health battle and finding the words to call out his absolute incompetence proves, once again, that not all Kennedys deserve to stand anywhere near the limelight. He can’t even write pervy horrible text poems well, while she is lucid and bright under the most horrible of circumstances. She is my hero.

      • orangeowl says:

        RMS, I hope you are doing okay after all you’ve been through. My friend’s husband is going through car-t cell now and it’s really scary. And very well said about who is worthy of the Kennedy legacy. Sending you best wishes.

      • QuiteContrary says:

        Seconding the good wishes, RMS.
        Tatiana’s piece is heartrending.

    • Chloe says:

      Caroline: ❤️❤️❤️
      The rest of them: 🤢🤮🤢

    • Deedee says:

      I think VF is full of crap.

  3. Nokitty! says:

    All the people involved in this… whatever this is, are gross.

  4. lisa says:

    remember when rfkjr was going on and on about what autistic people will never be able to do? (and he was wrong) but one of the things he went on about was that they will never write poetry as if we need more of this

  5. Dolly Llama says:

    Let’s not forget that Ryan Lizza himself fits in well with this group of men: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/11/new-yorker-fires-ryan-lizza-sexual-misconduct-290504

    • lisa says:

      like all these people using their jobs to date, im lucky if I have time to pee

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      In addition to being a major creep himself, Lizza is very stupid. After Olbermann and Sanford, he wasn’t exactly ambushed by the RFK revelation. Should have seen it coming.

      • DK says:

        I mean, he himself says she likes older, crazy people, and he included himself in the “3 for 3” count Olivia brags about after Sandford (presumably Olbmermann, Lizza and Sanford, since this was pre-RFKjr).

        So while he’s clearly trying to make himself the victim in all this (I’ve only read the excerpts, but I’m guessing he’s not out here acknowledging the sexual misconduct that got him fired – while he was with Nuzzi, no less), he is inadvertently highlighting his own creepy, older-man-taking-advantage-of-younger-woman habits, so I’m wondering what his brand of “crazy” that must have attracted Nuzzi…

  6. Visa Diva says:

    What a bunch of terrible people. Immoral, unethical, dangerous, and stupid.

  7. Roo says:

    Surely we can deport ALL of these crazy, gross people: Nuzzi and her gross creepy lovers, all the people that hired her, and everyone that enabled all these “encounters” Perhaps Epstein island is available?

  8. MaisiesMom says:

    I saw that excerpt of RFKJ’s “poetry” yesterday and wished for temporary illiteracy. That is “Clockwork Orange” level physically nauseating imagery, except without the artistry.

    WTF is happening with American journalism. Nuzzi’s book is ridiculous. The fact that she has some education and technical skill almost makes it worse. She thinks she is writing with depth and the element of surprise when it’s really just inch-deep pretense and shock value. Here is someone who has been given enormous opportunity and has squandered it to be messy and unethical on an operatic scale. Like, a Wagnerian “Ring Trilogy” scale.

  9. Kiki says:

    OMFGGGG LOLOLOL I am horrified and perhaps driven insane by what I just read because I heard myself screaming with laughter and also trying not to barf. That was so Clock work Orange minus the style .

  10. QuiteContrary says:

    How much grosser could it get? Actually, I don’t want to know.

    What RFK wrote isn’t poetry or romance–it’s misogyny.

    Nuzzi is batshit crazy. They all are.

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