Times: QEII’s ‘dereliction of duty’ led to this Prince Andrew crisis

While I was stunned by Prince Andrew’s arrest, it was because I thought that the monarchy would continue to do what they could to shield Andrew, and by shielding Andrew, they would be shielding themselves. That’s what got blown up with Andrew’s arrest – it’s not just that Andrew, Sarah Ferguson and their daughters all look incredibly vulnerable to criminal prosecution, it’s that the arrest has detonated a bomb within the whole royal system, and ALL of them are involved. It says something that the monarchy could no longer shield Andrew – about their diminished power post-QEII, and about how they have no idea how to handle *any* of this when they’re not in control. Well, Roya Nikkhah at the Times got a big briefing from at least two royal courts. One big takeaway: while they know they can’t blame QEII for everything, they’re blaming her for a lot of their current predicament. Highlights:

Dark days for King Charles: “This is his moment in the twilight sun and it’s an awful situation.” The King’s statement, issued four hours after Andrew’s 8am arrest at Wood Farm, Sandringham, on his 66th birthday, was his coldest yet. No mention of a “brother”, just “deepest concern” for “the news about Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor”. The killer line — “Let me state clearly: the law must take its course” — will have left Andrew, despite his denials of all wrongdoing, in no doubt that he has been royally hung out to dry. There is relief in some royal circles that “the Andrew problem” has been effectively taken out of the Palace’s hands by the police. But with an investigation under way that could result in the first criminal trial of a senior royal for a serious offence in modern history, it has lost what it so highly prizes: control.

A dangerous moment for the monarchy: As one who knows the King and his court well says: “The story will run for months on end, maybe years, and the royals have no idea what will play out with further documents or evidence [requested] from Andrew’s personal protection officers and royal officials.” As one former aide says: “The real problem for the Palace is they can’t get ahead of it.”

A close friend of William speaks about the crisis. “The time of grace has passed for the royal family,” the friend says. “There are a hell of a lot of questions that have been spawned. As distasteful as some of those questions are, they should be being war-gamed so they’re not playing catch up. They need to be proactive about getting the dirty washing out and making sure they’re the ones who get it out, not others. Really bold moves are what is needed now.”

It was all Queen Elizabeth II’s fault: A former courtier says: “Andrew was an idiot with bad judgment. When we travelled overseas and met staff at embassies and high commissions [where he’d been], you’d be left with the impression he was a pain in the arse, pompous and unpleasant wherever he went, a clumsy buffoon. But the feeling was the late Queen was beyond reproach, so at the Palace no one ever took Andrew to task because of her opinion of him. You just left it alone because she was so fond of him. So the question may end up being: what’s a cover-up and what was just left alone because of the Queen? Questions were never asked. Things were never probed.”

Andrew’s settlement to Virginia Giuffre: Those close to the King recently confirmed he did not contribute to the settlement, in which Andrew admitted no liability. The settlement briefly kept a lid on the matter during Elizabeth’s Platinum Jubilee celebrations, but how will history judge the decision by a monarch to protect her son in such a way? A source who was close to the Queen says: “Andrew had his own legal advice, which the Palace was made aware of. There was a feeling of ‘your idiotic Newsnight interview has knocked a domino over that is causing chaos for you and this [the settlement] might be one way to stop it. You cannot be chased by lawyers everywhere you go, you can’t be barricaded in Balmoral hiding behind your mother’s tartan.’ It was presented as the best of some terrible options.”

What did QEII know? Those close to the royal family have described the dutiful Elizabeth’s dereliction of duty in curbing Andrew as leaving an “unexploded bomb” for Charles to defuse. No one in royal circles believes the late Queen knew anything even close to the full extent of what is now alleged but equally no one disputes that she turned a blind eye. A royal source says: “It wouldn’t surprise me if the Queen just said she didn’t want to hear disobliging things about Andrew and used her red boxes as a shield. But her popularity will protect the monarchy to some extent and Charles will get a lot of public sympathy, which will bolster the monarchy’s position.”

How insiders believe Charles & William can get through this: Those close to the family also believe that “Charles and William’s genuine horror of the situation” enables the public to “make a distinction” between Andrew and the rest of the pack. “There is ethical insulation from Andrew with his brother and nephew, and that’s a thick layer of insulation,” says a friend of the royals. “But it heaps huge pressure on the institution to understand that, in the future, a different sort of monarchy is needed and meaningful change under the next reign.”

Charles’s planned trip to the US in April: Aides acknowledge the trips will require extra “due diligence”. A royal source says: “The trip to the US is a real problem — they will have to risk-assess every step of the way to think about what might go wrong. “They can’t cancel it, that would look terrible. But all it takes is for Trump to start riffing about Andrew, or an opportunity-seeking congressman or woman, and it all becomes highly embarrassing and overshadowing of what the mission is.”

[From The Times]

This, from William’s friend: “As distasteful as some of those questions are, they should be being war-gamed so they’re not playing catch up.” Big-boy Willy is going to war-game, you guys! I think William’s version of “war-gaming” is “sending his aides to meet with Charles’s aides and they’ll come up with a list of things to do, and someone will have to read it to illiterate William.” My point? “War-gaming” is tough talk from someone who went on vacation during one of the biggest crises of his lifetime.

As for the blame-game stuff about QEII… the thing is, she was in charge that whole time and she continuously covered up for her favorite son. A huge chunk of this is legitimately QEII’s fault. Now, that being said, Charles knew a lot and he doesn’t have plausible deniability about most of this. In fact, in 2022, Charles used his brother’s settlement with Virginia as a bargaining chip to get something he really wanted (QEII signing off on “Queen Consort Camilla”).

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35 Responses to “Times: QEII’s ‘dereliction of duty’ led to this Prince Andrew crisis”

  1. Tessa says:

    Charles used sussexes as scapegoats to take attention from Andrew. He even welcomed Andrew and ex fergie to royal events to try to show up the Sussexes

    • Hypocrisy says:

      He sure did and people are understanding just how much they targeted the Sussex’s just to protect AMW and his many evil crimes against women, children and country. They definitely all aided AMW in his crimes even if they weren’t Epstein clients.

      • Auntie Fah says:

        That assessment of QE2’s refusal to see and deal with her pervert son is unfortunately not inaccurate.

  2. Lala11_7 says:

    While they’re dragging QEII (who deserves it)😠…I want to hear William answer for Earthshot partnering with that Epstein creep…HOW IN TF DID THAT HAPPEN IN THE 21st CENTURY 😡

    • DK says:

      I would honestly not be surprised if Will had some hand in the timing of Andrew’s arrest, to distract people from all the questions about Earthshot’s finances.
      Because that story sure has died down since the arrest, hasn’t it?

  3. Pretty says:

    I don’t remember the details but Charles and Andrew teamed up to out a senior aide of the queen so that Charles could have more control no ? I’m not imagining it right ? And every conciliatory move she tried to made towards Harry and Meghan was shut down, her wish for them to keep security was not respected. My point is those are excuses, if they truly thought Andrew was a danger they would have acted behind her back to punish him.

    • WaterDragon says:

      You are correct on all points. It was Christopher Geidt that Charles and Andrew conspired to oust. He was highly regarded as one of the last stalwart courtiers that Elizabeth could count on to do the right thing.

    • windyriver says:

      Yes, right after Philip retired in 2017, Charles, with Andrew, engineered dumping QEIIs long time and respected private secretary Christopher Geidt, replacing him with his man, deputy Edward Young. With the start of that power play, regardless of whatever had – or had not – been acted on before, Charles took over ownership of everything that ensued with respect to Andrew.

  4. Gloriana says:

    Not only are they pushing the blame towards a dead woman they are excusing her and themselves by saying “she didn’t Really know “and “turned a blind eye”. A lack of curiosity it’s not an excuse. And I think they did know at least some of it.

    • ecsmom says:

      Not only do I think she knew but she didn’t think it was a crime. I don’t think she viewed the underage girls as “trafficked”. They were there under their own free will – not understanding someone that age can’t consent and a complete lack of understanding of what “grooming” is.

      She knew but never regarded what he did as bad.

      • Lucy says:

        We can’t underestimate the importance of her meeting and falling in love with Philip when she was 13. I don’t know if he groomed her or not, I believe I’ve seen reference to him having a natural reaction of annoyance to a young girl having a crush on him. His uncle (who was a full pdf) encouraged him to encourage the relationship.

        But someone who married their crush from when they were 13 is going to have a very different outlook on their son being with young girls. I don’t know what you can do to counter that mindset in someone who lived that.

        It reminds me some of my grandma got married right before she turned 17, and granddaddy was 23. My mom can’t see the problem, she points out gramma had graduated high school at that point. And grandma’s own parents got married at 13 and 15, which I only found out through research. Those folks are absolutely not going to see a problem, because it would admit their own ways were off.

    • GMHQ says:

      This is the story of Lizzy’s life. She deferred to her Court advisors throughout her reign. Those advisors were in bed with the Tories and are responsible for her buying Boris’s advisors fibs about Brexit and as a result did not speak up on the proroguing Parliament that enabled the passage of Brexit. Same for her handling of H&M. The functionaries had an interest in pushing out Meghan, who shed too much light on their lack of professionalism and competence.

  5. Cindy says:

    A former courtier says: “Andrew was an idiot with bad judgment.”

    NO!! Andrew is a sexual predator who abused girls and women. Even with all of the information about what he’s done, for someone to dismiss him as just an “idiot with bad judgement” is an insult to the public and to his victims.

    William should start “war gaming” his responses to why he accepted money from and has a close relationship with “torture video” Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem.

    • Hypocrisy says:

      💯 % ! They need to stop excusing or downplaying the crimes committed by AMW and the other predators in the Epstein files. Rape is a brutal crime not bad judgement! Even an idiot should realize that.

      • DK says:

        Yep. The caution about the America trip is in this same euphemistic, no-real-accountability vein too: “all it takes is…an opportunity-seeking congressman or woman,” to ask questions.

        Um, yes, US congress members have every right to ask either Charles or William about their brother/uncle who was credibly accused of r*ping American girls as a Prince of the UK. It’s not opportunity-seeking, it’s important questions for US government officials to ask.

        In fact, shame on any congress member who does NOT ask (just as it is a shame on all those currently keeping quiet about Felon47 and other government officials’ roles in the Trumpstein Files).

    • Lady Esther says:

      That stood out to me, too. They are STILL, even after all that’s happened and will happen if the Gods are just, labelling Andrew as stupid, an idiot, a buffoon…as if that’s all he was guilty of! Remember the playbook: never, ever admit anything that sounds like acknowledgment of wrongdoing in any way, because There Lies Lawsuits That May Cost the BRF Money.

      And the whole “war gaming” thing is PR 101. That’s one of the first things you pay a professional crisis specialist or PR firm for, not those clowns who work in Palace communications: you do scenario analysis and prepare for every possible situation and how you would respond.

      This entire paragraph sounds like it was written by BS, Bulletproof Sunshine in a trifold that goes out to clients: “As distasteful as some of those questions are, they should be being war-gamed so they’re not playing catch up. They need to be proactive about getting the dirty washing out and making sure they’re the ones who get it out, not others.” That’ll be minimum 500 pounds an hour, you’re welcome!

      And for William, the client, one must beef him up to the stud he clearly is! “Really bold moves are what is needed now.” William the Bold, people! Not William the I Go To Investitures So Drunk I Can Barely Stand, William The One Who Uses His Sick Wife To Duck Work Forever, etc. Bold, I tell you! We’re all WAR GAMING THIS SHIT

    • SIde Eye says:

      Thank you Cindy!! Words matter. Let’s stop coddling pedophiles and predators. For the longest time the mainstream media would use the term “underage women” there is no such thing. If you are underage you are a CHILD. It took months and months of women correcting this language before the media stopped using that incorrect terminology. It’s exhausting how much we protect predators, even in our everyday language – we will even invent terminology to do it.

  6. Yes she is to blame for a large chunk but Chuckles and the rest of the family knew what he was and what he was doing and who he did it with! They wanted it gone so they paid off Virgina and thought that would be the end of it but the Windsors never ever look big picture and that pay off was just one victim in a cast of many with shady dealings and loans and now confidential information being shared with the truly dirty and immoral. Chuckles should have, the minute QEII died, thrown his pedo brother to the wolves and let a legal and thorough investigation begin and put out the smoldering fire but Chuckles dithered! Well now they can all deal with the inferno that it has become and it is threatening to burn the monarchy down! To this I say burn burn burn!!

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      Charles didn’t just dither. He tried to rehabilitate Andrew with church walks and such.

      • Jais says:

        This. And frankly William helped. I don’t want hear, years later, about how mad William was the the had to do that. Bullshit. William loves to brief about everything so we would have heard about it at the time.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        Chuck needs to worry about what hits the fan between now and the planned US state visit.

        FBI has wanted to question Andrew for ages; but if some of Chuck’s buried skeletons start reaching for air with the help of Andrew being questioned by 8 constabularies, they might want to pull him for questioning too.

        He’s above the law as king in Britain but not the US. If they want to know what Chuck knew and when he knew it… will any form of diplomatic immunity really stop the truth getting out?

  7. Brassy Rebel says:

    These palace briefings are complete 🐂💩. As I have said before, it’s ironic that the queen, who always insisted she was all about duty, did not see her duty with regard to Andrew. But the rest of this sorry lot is not going to escape blame by scapegoating her. The monarchy itself leads to this kind of disaster. And that’s why more and more people are seeing the monarchy as the root of the problem rather than something which needs to be preserved in spite of the problem.

    • Lover says:

      “The monarchy itself leads to this kind of disaster.” EXACTLY. Andrew never should’ve been a trade envoy, he is unqualified, corrupt, and stupid, everyone knew this, but because his boss was his doting MOTHER she gave him opportunities he never should’ve had. If she had merely been his boss and not his mom, she would not have paid a massive settlement to protect him.

      And now they’re saying they will have to do things radically differently to keep the monarchy alive, but they continue to ignore all of William and Kate‘s liabilities, not just the chronic lack of work but lying to the press on multiple occasions, bullying and physical aggression toward the Sussexes, Will’s infidelity, and so on — all that will continue to be ignored and protected by Charles and the Firm. Charles cannot, institutionally, fire William for incompetence, as any normal boss could do, without destroying the entire system. Which means the entire system is untenable. Burn it down.

  8. Mslove says:

    They all knew Andrew was a predator. QEII knew. Philip knew. The staff knew. The press knew. Chuck and Peg knew, too. This is a perfect example of classism and it needs to go.

  9. MSJ says:

    The British establishment allowed the royal family to cover up for and protect Prince Andrew for decades. There was a trail of information to follow prior to January 2026.
    – The QEII knew, King Charles knew, RAVEC knew, and government officials knew that Andrew was involved with JE’s trafficking network.
    – William knew and now claims via anonymous sources that his father did not heed his advice to ‘deal with Andrew’.
    – The Windsors paid £12m to silence a victim, Virginia Giuffre, who later ended her own life succumbing to effects of the trauma she endured.
    – The royal institution has sealed all information about Prince Andrew during his time as a trade envoy, from FOI requests and public scrutiny.

    The institution has been accustomed to lies and obfuscations evade accountability. They were comfortable hiding behind the mystique QEII provided.

    Had it not been for the US Congress Transparency Act that allowed the release of the DOJ files Prince Andrew would still be protected and the public would have been unaware of the extent of his involvement with trafficking.

    Lack of transparency, contradictory information from anonymous palace sources, and deflection when confronted with facts are all contributed more and will contribute more harm to the Windsors and the royal institution as this scandal continues to be discussed and scrutinized globally. 🤨

    • Mairzy Doats says:

      They also knew about his other shady business dealings, including involvement with a Chinese spy. So I wonder if the family agreed to pay the settlement money, not from some familial sense of duty, but because they feared him getting funds from a compromising foreign source.

  10. Alex Can says:

    Everyone needs to demand a public inquiry. It’s what the Royal family fears the most, transparency and accountability. Yeah, the monarchy is in peril. Much more so than when Diana died, which was basically emotional upheaval. This goes much deeper.

    • MSJ says:

      🎯

      A Parliamentary Inquiry would be the appropriate approach to determine the institutional failures and reforms needed to make it fit for a modern era of governance. Any other approach will just be bandaid on a wound that will likely wind up festering and becoming septic which a future monarch such as George will be faced with.

      Transparency and accountability should be paramount.

      • anotherlily says:

        Parliament has today debated the issue of Andrew’s role as a UK Trade Envoy. There was unanimous agreement that papers relating to his time in that role should be released. The language used by MPs about Andrew was not deferential. ‘Rude, arrogant and entitled’ was the verdict of one speaker. There is no specific rule about showing deference when speaking about the RF in Parliament but it has been the convention, until now.

        The police investigation has to take priority and nothing will be released to the public that might impede that process. However, it is very clear that this issue will overshadow the royal landscape for the forceable future.

  11. Shoegirl77 says:

    Wow, they’ve gone from putting words in her mouth to just firing her straight under the bus. She was never this active in life.

  12. QuiteContrary says:

    The “friend” has this right at least: “The time of grace has passed for the royal family,” the friend says. “There are a hell of a lot of questions that have been spawned.”

    No more grace for this screwed-up, self-serving institution.

  13. Amy Bee says:

    There’s absolutely no mention of the Palace doing an internal investigation to find out how knew about Andrew or Esptein’s visits to BP. But they moved with a quickness to investigate Meghan for alleged bullying. What is this called?

  14. Gemini says:

    Interesting how the press is ready to throw THE Queen under the bus yet they never mention all the private secretaries who run the lives of all royals, who influence family relationships according to their agendas. They are acting as if Andrew acted without the help of his staff or the Queen or Chuck acted without the advice of their handlers. The press is protecting their partners in crime, the courtiers.

  15. Gabby says:

    Why is it a given that “the late queen was beyond reproach”? That is insulting to anyone with a brain. She f*cked things up by repeatedly choosing to stick her head in the sand. With her sister, with her kids, with the UK taxpayers, you name it.

    It it’s OK for the media to drag her out of death to use as a battering ram against the Sussexes, by all means drag her out now and call her to task for this mess.

    • Sue says:

      Yes, came here to say basically this. There are people who will never leave their post of declaring QEII a saint and the greatest thing England ever produced. Yes, she knew that Andrew was a child predator. And by many accounts, Andrew is extremely arrogant, insufferable and treats other people like sh*t. And yet he remained his mother’s favorite, her most special boy. She either had the worst judgement which isn’t a good thing when you’re the monarch, or she was just as insufferable as he was.

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