Prince Harry’s brother & father were furious that Harry tried to protect Meghan

Again, much of Russell Myers’ supposed biography of the Prince and Princess of Wales is actually about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Seemingly every story is about Prince Harry or Meghan doing or saying something, which led to rage, lies and tears from Prince William and Kate. It’s crazy that even in the most generous, keen-intensive narratives, William still comes across as completely unhinged as well, but that seems to be a conversation a lot of royalists are unwilling to have. In a new excerpt from Myers’ William & Catherine, apparently William and then-Prince Charles were absolutely furious that Prince Harry wanted to publicly protect and shield then-Meghan Markle from the racist British press in 2016. Charles and William really said “being terrible partners to our girlfriends is the Windsor Brand, how dare you, Harry!!”

Prince Harry’s reaction against “utterly disgusting” media treatment of Meghan Markle had swerved the established royal “process of doing things” and made King Charles and Prince William “look bad,” a new royal book says. Meghan was subject to a wave of inflammatory stories when her relationship with Harry was first revealed at the end of October 2016, including an infamous story stating she was “(almost) straight outta Compton,” when in fact she was from another part of Los Angeles.

Harry fired back at the media in a statement from his spokesman, Jason Knauf, just more than a week after the news broke—but the prince argued in his own book how it made Prince William and King Charles look bad “because they’d never put out a statement for their girlfriends or wives when they were being harassed.”

“Harry had taken a stand, but he had left his father and brother utterly furious. A royal source said, ‘The feeling was that Harry had made them both look bad. Granted, he was rightly outraged about the treatment his girlfriend was receiving, some of the coverage was utterly disgusting, but the royal family have a specific way or process of doing things. This wasn’t it.’”

“Harry was infuriated that his father and brother admonished him for his rash actions, and the tense conversations left Harry astounded that his own kin were refusing to offer their support, even after their spouses had endured years of being hounded by the media,” Myers wrote. “William was angered that their shared communications team had not thought to consult him before issuing such a formal rebuke. He also, as Harry related in his memoir, questioned the seriousness of Harry’s relationship to his face. Harry also says that William openly mocked him for suggesting that their late mother sent Meghan to him in some form of spiritual guidance, ‘Well now, Harold … I’m not sure about that. I wouldn’t say THAT!’”

“Harry did not like having his feelings challenged, nor did he appreciate being told what to do. It is not hard to sympathise with Harry here. Why should his older brother have any say over who he should date or how he should feel?”

In fact, the book argues this incident, at the very start of Meghan’s relationship with the British public, may have been the first concrete sign of the disintegration in royal relations that would ultimately end with Harry and Meghan quitting the palace for a new life in America in 2020, some four years later.

“A palace source close to the brothers told how this period did indeed mark an outward shift in their relations,” he wrote. “Suddenly it was harder to get them in the same room, each giving various excuses as to why they could not—or perhaps would not—be available to engage with meetings together. Was William simply looking out for his brother, or did he have an eye on the impact on the monarchy if Harry were to marry a woman who, at the time, he barely knew? While that may have been his obvious concern, the way he asked the question, and his audacity to ask it at all, would drive a wedge between the brothers that could possibly be seen as the precursor to the eventual demise of their bond.”

“The relationship between them [William and Harry] was already tense and this didn’t help,” a former aide quoted in the book said.

“Harry was intent on the palace doing more,” Myers wrote. “He felt as though William wasn’t backing him up and had already told him to slow down with the relationship and the criticism of the media, which only served to anger Harry even more. Was William looking out for his brother or himself? Only he would know that, but it was clear even back then that things were heading in the wrong direction.”

[From Newsweek]

“The feeling was that Harry had made them both look bad.” Imagine a prince trying to protect the woman he loved and that prince’s brother and father immediately throw pissy tantrums about how that protection makes them look bad? The problem was always that Charles and William treated their girlfriends, mistresses and wives like sh-t and Harry’s actions only emphasized the two heirs’ lack of chivalry and lack of respect for women. With William, it was more than just William’s sh-tty treatment of all women – William was absolutely f–king furious that Harry had fallen in love with someone beautiful and cool. It made William’s choices look stark and sad and instead of reflecting on that, William just raged out. He’s still raging out. He’ll be raging out for years over the fact that his brother fell in love and prioritized being a husband and father above being William’s doormat and scapegoat.

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86 Responses to “Prince Harry’s brother & father were furious that Harry tried to protect Meghan”

  1. Eurydice says:

    Aaaand it’s continuing to make Charles and William look bad.

  2. Tessa says:

    Harry and Meghan dated two years before the wedding. They did not elope to Las Vegas after one week. This makes scooter look really bad. He apparently did not fuss about divorced peter proposing to a divorcee after one year of dating. Harry could have asked why he dated keen for ten years and broke up with her several times.

    • Mightymolly says:

      Two years in their thirties after both were relationship veterans with long histories of work accomplishments…eg grown ass adults who knew what they wanted.

      • Jay says:

        They likely assumed that Meghan would leave if Harry was not going to get serious – as most self-respecting, professional women who are looking for commitment and a family would. Most wouldn’t agree to sitting by the phone for ten years, ahem, hoping that their prince will eventually settle for them.
        But there’s also the more sinister reality that the chances of having a healthy pregnancy don’t exactly improve with age, and both Meghan and Harry were in their late thirties when they wed. I can imagine a world where the Windsors thought that by putting down obstacles and trying to slow walk the relationship, they could ensure that the Wales children had no competition and Harry would just be the fun uncle in perpetuity without a family of his own.

      • mightymolly says:

        @Jay – You are spot on with these points, but they also show how out of touch the BRF truly is. First, IVF and surrogacy are increasingly common with couples who’ve waited to have children, and I’m sure H & M discussed that option. Second, I also believe that both would be open to adopting children. I know that would have thrown the BRF into a tailspin of debating line of succession, but I strongly suspect H & M also discussed that possibility (in fact, they still might be). Point being, the BRF doesn’t understand the modern world: At.All.

        I want to add to this point that I recently obtained citizenship in the country of my grandparents. The process allowed me to add children through adoption to my application for citizenship. That is how the modern world works. No further comments.

    • Lucy says:

      I suspect W’s view is simpler- he made his spouse wait 10 years for the ring, and still ended up in a bad marriage. The fact that most of their problems stem from him, plus her codependency and enmeshment is not even on his horizon. I think that’s why he acts like they moved too fast. He can’t tell the difference between his experiences and other people’s experiences, his is the only one that matters.

      • Tessa says:

        Scooter did not do the math so to speak. He met Kate at University when they were in their late teens/early twenties. He kept her waiting 10 years, which would bring them to their late twenties. So Scooter wanted them to wait until they were in their forties. They did date for two years and married after that. They did not have to get permission from Scooter ( heir to the heir) to get married.

  3. Jay says:

    Isn’t this supposed to be a book that embiggens the Wales, by a royal-friendly reporter? Because I really struggle to see how anyone could read those paragraphs and feel anything but disgust for William and his father.

    • Jais says:

      It’s baffling. Meyers has said this was a chance for Will a Kate to get their side of the story out. So they’re just confirming that they were terrible. Okay then.

      • Harla says:

        I agree! In fact I’m struggling to recall one royal biography that actually flatters the subject, in all I’ve read WandK or CandC really come off as at best lazy and entitled or worse, petty and cruel. I guess these biographies are telling the truth, just not the truth the windsors want out there.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yes! Sometimes its hard with these excerpts to see determine what’s in the book and what the article is saying about the book, but this line: “While that may have been his obvious concern, the way he asked the question, and his audacity to ask it at all, ” and this one ” Was William looking out for his brother or himself? Only he would know that”

        do not make William sound good. At all. he sounds controlling, entitled and spoiled, like a kid who is used to getting his way at the wave of a hand and is being told no for the first time. At the age of 34/35.

        And this was all about protecting William’s status and role – which is ridiculous bc he’s the future king, no matter what. But he wanted Harry as his permanent spare, to stay single and dependent on him, he did not want him to marry someone prettier smarter and more engaging and charismatic than his wife, etc.

        EVERYTHING harry did was supposed to be second to what William did, and he was making it clear that he (Harry) was not okay with that. and it wasn’t just Meghan. We saw it with Harry’s military service, with Invictus, etc. he was sending so many signals that he wasn’t going to be william’s spare and william just refused to see them.

        Meghan was the final push he needed, for sure, but Harry had been carving his own path for a while by that point, which is why Meghan loved him.

      • Nerd says:

        He said that and even still is repeating what Harry said in his memoir about how they treated him and his relationship with Meghan from the beginning, which is confirming that Harry’s book is accurate and a reflection of both sides. Taking the story and transferring it from Harry’s book to this one doesn’t change the fact that Charles, Camilla, William and Kate weren’t welcoming to Meghan from the start and that they were okay staying silent about racism against someone who could potentially be a future relative and her mother and future children. This makes it even more believable that they had concerns about skin tone and how Harry marrying Meghan and having children with her could make the family look. This gives an even deeper insight into William telling Harry that he was moving too fast and that he shouldn’t get his hopes up about marriage and them being the Fab Four as well as Charles asking Harry if Meghan was going to keep working because he doesn’t have enough money to fund both couples. They were already trying to convince him away from this relationship from the very beginning.

    • Hypocrisy says:

      Extreme disgust, this entire book seems to be about WanK unwarranted and unhinged hatred aimed at the Sussex’s.. I understand they are not interesting and have no accomplishments of their own but this is just making them look worse because in the back of my mind I just keep remembering all this hate started to protect an uncle of Willy’s that was raping trafficked children and women while trading state secrets as payment..

    • Me at home says:

      Right? Myers also confirms Harry’s account that Bulliam wanted Africa for himself, and Myers even adds that Bulliam also wanted to reserve the military and veterans for himself.

      • DK says:

        Heck, Harry should ask for royalties on this book, because it seems so much of it is simply quoting or paraphrasing what Harry wrote in Spare.

        Myers is confirming allllll the dirt though and it’s hilarious (if it weren’t heartbreaking for H to have lived through, of course).

  4. Neeve says:

    Charles treated Diana like crap because he didn’t love her but Camilla?He moved heaven and earth for her including throwing his own sons under the bus for her PR rehabilitation.

    • truthSF says:

      Exactly! Charles knows how to treat someone he loves well. It’s everyone else he could give a toss about.

      Bully on the other hand, treats everyone like shit!

    • Nerd says:

      I don’t believe that Charles loved Camilla in the traditional “in love” sense of the word. I think that he cared for her more than he cared for Diana because Diana was just a means to an end for him and nothing more. Camilla was just one of many women he had an affair with and she was the only one left standing and willing to be seen publicly as long as she and her children were protected. I think that’s why they’ve never really lived together, because she was never his one true love. Sh was just a great friend with benefits who was willing to stay the course and eventually marry him. I think that Kate is essentially the same thing for William but she blindly thinks there’s the potential of him actually loving her someday like a loving husband should.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles also named Camilla as the other woman during his TV interview in 1994. Which caused the PB divorce. He was more or less obligated to her. He never named Dale Tryon publicly or any of the others.

      • Jais says:

        Camilla is a great friend with benefits who has always known how to play Charles. That man needs to be regularly flattered and Camilla has always done that for him in a way that Diana would not.

      • Emm1 says:

        @ Nerd, 💯 % agree.

        Charles only truly loves Charles. He’s fond of Camilla as she was the last mistress standing and also treats him like a child. She molly-coddles him, soothes him, panders to him, and in return gets bling, houses, trusts for HER children, etc. She worked him like a sheep dog. Crafty, sly and cleverer than both Charles and Workshy Willy.

  5. Jais says:

    Huh. So William was angry that their shared communications team put out the statement before even consulting him. That’s interesting. So William didn’t even know about it until it was already public. I’d just assumed that he wasn’t happy about it but still knew about it. Oh yeah, he must’ve been mad. Would it have even been released if he had found out before or would he have stopped it? And also this was an example of Jason Knauf actually working with Harry at one point. So William got mad at Jason for this and then what, demanded fealty in the form of lying and backstabbing on his behalf? Sounds about right.

    • Nerd says:

      Never forget that William gave Jason permission to lie in court documents for the Daily Fail to prevent Meghan from winning her court case against them for illegally publishing her private letter to bad dad. He was also the one who reported Meghan as bullying staff even though the ones who he says complained refused to file a formal complaint. He is also one of the ones who would have known she was struggling with suicidal ideations and refused to help. He also illegally put out a false statement that part of the reasons the Sussexes stepped wasn’t because of William bullying them. It was only after the Sandringham summit that Harry learned they lied and signed his name on that statement. Bad dad also confirmed that JK was his contact at KP and it says something that JK tried to help DF and bad dad’s close friend 😉 Carolyn Graham works for the DF.

      • Jais says:

        Oh, yeah he absolutely did all that. It’s just funny to remember that Harry must have seen Jason as an ally after he helped with the statement. Which would’ve made it all the worse for Harry and Meghan when they realized he was a snake.

    • Me at home says:

      Sounds like it. The Angry Thumb gave Jason an ultimatum: prioritize me or I find someone who will–because defending Meghan was terrible, or something. So it was any easy choice for Jason to choose the future king, given that Jason’s a lying snake, an opportunist and all. And William rewarded Jason by knighting him and giving him a sinecure at Earthflop.

    • Christine says:

      I love the way Harry just ran end run after end run around William. Didn’t consult him before getting everything signed off for Invictus? CHECK! So sorry you’re upset about my foundation that is going to help people worldwide. Oopsie!

      Defended his wife and released a statement without consulting his big brother who has no business being involved in the first place because he treats his own wife worse than anyone else does? CHECK!

      Skedaddled the hell out of your precious cult without consulting you first? CHECK!

      • Nerd says:

        I don’t even think it was an intentional stick it to William type of thing because anyone decent person who is about service and being good wouldn’t have found either of those things as something to complain or be angry about. It is a poor reflection on William and Charles that they were angry that he was defending a biracial woman from racists abuse. Her being the woman he loves and is in a relationship with should have made them more understanding. And regarding IG they all had their own separate things in their foundation, and with Harry being a real serviceman who served in active duty how could anyone be angry with him wanting to help injured servicemen and women? Besides, William’s reaction was that it was a bad idea and that he wouldn’t have agreed to it anyway even if Harry told him beforehand.

      • Christine says:

        I think Invictus was intentional. I think Harry had his brother’s number by then, and he knew it was going to devolve into a pissing contest about getting credit if William was remotely involved. William and Kate have been trying to shoehorn themselves into it with the phantom donation they keep leaking they made after “secretly settling with the tabloids”. It’s the conspiracy theory the KP bots most often love to deploy on social media.

    • Nic919 says:

      There was an article a while back outlining how William only notified the Queen and Charles about actually proposing to Kate and they knew about an hour before he told the BBC.
      It may be removed by now, but William is in no position to care about what kind of statement Harry released about his engagement.

  6. SuOutdoors says:

    William’s obvious concern was to be overshadowed by a beautiful accomplished woman. As once was his father by Diana. History repeating…

    • one of the marys says:

      And hierarchy plays into it as well. Remember how often courtiers complained that M&H didn’t understand why they had to wait on projects, why they had to be less visible etc William expected that deference and veto power and was furious that M&H wouldn’t operate that way. Harry went around William to get permission/ funding for IG and that was before he married. Then he issued a press release to protect Meghan. Yes I can see William being furious that he was not consulted and deferred to.

      • Nerd says:

        Why would he expect to be deferred to about a project that separately Harry’s that he created? They all had their own individual projects and his wasn’t taking any money from their foundation because he was using funds raised by another project he started on his own, the Endeavor Fund. Not to mention as Harry said, they were away on vacation when he met with board members and he assumed that it would have been appreciated that he took the initiative and funds to make it happen without having to bother William on vacation. Harry also said that William said that it wasn’t a good idea when he learned about it and so he wouldn’t have approved the Invictus Games anyway. It turns out that William was wrong and for someone who is always on vacation and rarely works it couldn’t have been easy waiting for his approval for anything.

      • Christine says:

        I *think* the Endeavor fund was the one that had donations that Harry, William and Kate had all solicited (though I doubt Kate had anything to do with it at all), and when everything fell apart, this was the money they split between what became their two separate foundations/offices?

  7. The only ones making themselves look bad are Chuckles and Peg!! They don’t like that the truth is that they are royal a**holes and now everyone knows it!! This lovey fairytale book is just putting it out there again just how bad Chuckles and Peg behave in private!!

  8. Tessa says:

    Charles is a hypocrite he used his media friends like penny and Ingrid to promote Camilla and slam Diana. Charles did not hesitate to rant about his parents. Charles said Camilla was non negotiable but harry is not allowed to speak up to protect Meghan . Such hypocrisy

    • Iheoma Nwakpadolu says:

      William the conquer defeated and killed the English king, Harold in the year 1066.
      All monarchs since then are ‘supposedly’ descendants of this William.
      You now get the reason present day William will chose to call his spare, Harold. So, it is definitely not a name he choose for affection.
      RIVALRY

      • Nerd says:

        Wow, I hadn’t realized that. That gives a new evil spin to him calling Harry Harold that I wouldn’t have imagined. I though it was probably a mean way of him calling Harry a nickname that Harry probably just didn’t like l, but this shows a more evil and vindictive tone to it.

      • Becks1 says:

        i honestly don’t think this is it. Sometimes a nickname is just a nickname – maybe it was kind of meant to poke fun at him but I honestly don’t think William used it because of William the conqueror in 1066. William probably has no idea which king was defeated in 1066.

      • Nic919 says:

        The battle of Hastings in 1066 is something every British child is taught so William definitely knows what he is saying.
        William the conqueror defeating king Harold Goodwin is where they start when they teach English history. They tend to glance over the later years when they lose the British empire to the Americans.

        I would compare it to how most Americans have some knowledge of the crossing of the Delaware which forms part of the American national mythology during the Revolution.

      • Hypocrisy says:

        But would the illiterate prince Peggy actually know that? He proudly proclaims he doesn’t read and I doubt he has much “knowledge retention” on what is read to him or said around him. He doesn’t seem interested enough to actually care or learn anything and he never really has.

      • Lamb Chop says:

        Peggy likely would because it’s his name. Im sure his narcissistic butt loved calling himself William the conquerer. Especially with the Harry/Harold connection.

      • Becks1 says:

        And it also seems that he has always called harry that – the name may have been in his head for historical reasons but I bet if you asked him he couldn’t tell you specifically – so yeah I’m sticking to my theory that william isn’t making any kind of deep powerful statement about rivalry and conquering with that nickname. y’all are giving him wayyyyyy too much credit lol.

      • maamdarling says:

        i went looking for info on this but AFAIK nobody has ever gone on record with exactly why billy picked “Harold” as a nickname. the Hastings comparison is soooo juicy though and it makes total sense

  9. Eleonor says:

    Charles gaslighted and abused his barely adult wife to defend his mistress.
    William throws Kate under the bus and uses his children to shield himself.
    It’s obvious they can’t see where the problem is.

  10. windyriver says:

    Meghan wasn’t only someone beautiful and cool. Specifically she was someone Will was aware of, and probably had the hots for, because he and Kate supposedly were already watching Suits. And Harry was able to attract her, while Will had failed with all the other women he had his eye on. In other words, like the beard (and wedding uniform?), Harry gets to have something that Will can’t, plus Will is then forced to settle for Kate. And we know how he reacts to both of those things. And yes, he and Charles both treat women like crap. The only positive thing I will say about Camilla is I’m sure she’s totally got Charles’ number and has him wrapped around her little finger. And he totally deserves it.

    • Lover says:

      I agree completely. William was never “concerned” about Harry not knowing M well enough. This is 100% about Will being jealous of Harry for capturing the heart of an extremely beautiful celebrity whom he already had a crush on. and that also explains why Kate hates M so much as well, because she knows that W is jealous of H for snagging M. William was fine with Harry as long as H never had anything that was better than what W had. H always has to be lower than him in all things. It is the story of his life. As for this idea that W and Charles were worried about how it would make them look for H to defend M, it is clear to see that W and C look like dogshit for the horrible way they treated Harry and M, and Kate and Diana, and basically anyone around them.

    • Nic919 says:

      Bingo. William was jealous and mad that Harry got a hot and smart woman to want to marry him, making his choice of Kate look bad.

    • donna says:

      I have suspected that William had a crush on Megan from the start of Harry’s relationship with her. Also, I have a hypothesis that William had acted inappropriately with Megan (like making a pass) and Megan told Harry. That’s why I think it became hard to get them in the same room together. Only my hypothesis.

  11. YankeeDoodles says:

    I’m old enough to remember being at uni in the US just a couple of years before WanK met at uni in the UK, and at the time, it seemed semi-normal that a couple might not marry straight out of uni, as not many did. When they broke up in 2007 (IIRC) it seemed like, oh, well, that’s how it goes. I experienced similar situations, you just turn the page. That was the fork in the road. They both could have / should have had the spine to just stick with starting over on separate tracks. Going back to a relationship you had as teenagers is like getting sucked into a gravitational vortex. One story Harry tells in Spare, about breaking up with a girlfriend, features a mother-figure chiding them both, “You guys are just postponing the inevitable.” …you need an older, wiser person, parent, male, female, someone to remind you of the bigger picture. It’s the spectrum that runs from scary to stifling.

    • Tessa says:

      It was in 2007. I think Carole was guilt tripping scootsAnd keen apparently tipped off the media when she would appear at night clubs with other men to show scooter what he was missing. Scoot had no luck with isabelle calthorp so he decided to settle for keen but it took another three years to give the ring to. Keen

    • Nic919 says:

      It also looked bad that kate never worked after uni, which was definitely not normal for most 20 something women in the 2000s.
      Even rich socialites did something, including working charity. Kate was the worst of both worlds. She just waited by the phone for his call.

  12. MSJ says:

    The more the Windsors encourage these royal journalists to write hagiographies and newspaper columns to revisit their treatment of the Sussexes in order to embiggen the William or Charles and their spouses, the further the Sussex brand is elevated and the Windsor brand is diminished. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    Thankfully Prince Harry wrote Spare, a memoir in his own voice, which is reinforced by his mother’s biography about her experiences living within the toxic dysfunctional royal ‘mafia’ Windsor family and institution. Following Princess Diana’s biography, Spare is now the most consequential historical text of the Windsor royals globally (10m+ copies in all formats sold).

    If the Sussexes had not publicly documented their painful experiences within the Windsor family and institution after they left, they would have lost to the British establishment, but thankfully the did document their experiences and the won – ‘love wins’. Their story is no ‘fairytale’, theirs is reality. The Prince defended and protected his Princess. He saved her from the ‘wicked’ institution and family that mistreated her. Cheers 🥂 to the Oprah interview (2021), the Netflix docu-series (2022), the Spare memoir and promotional interviews (2023), the BBC security trial decision interview (2025) and everything in between. Their resilience and fortitude have stood the test of time.

  13. lamejudi says:

    Why does William call him Harold when his name is Henry?

    • Iheoma Nwakpadolu says:

      Because he he sees himself as william the conquer, who killed the English king Harold in the battle of hasting, 1066.
      All English monarchs thereafter are ‘supposedly’ descendants of williamnde conqueror.
      Today’s will call his spare that fir control and rivalry.

    • M says:

      Deliberate cruelty. He probably called him Harold as a child and Harry hated it, so he kept doing it to be a sh*t.

    • Cheryl says:

      It is a nickname. Harry calls William Willy.

  14. ABritGuest says:

    I mean it’s not true that Camilla & Kate didn’t get institutional protection/support etc as girlfriends. Kate & Camilla had security well before marriage & Kate & even her family at times had met police protection at events. Charles allegedly paid for private security for Camilla. So it’s interesting that according to Valentine Low there was pushback on idea of security for Meghan when she got engaged despite there being threats already. Harry alluded to reluctance to give Meghan security on Oprah too.

    Camilla & Kate also had support in the press. Charles did a whole campaign in the press for Camilla pre marriage including briefing on Camilla meeting William, books that were hitpieces on Diana to uplift Camilla & Charles with assistance from Charles’ office. Camilla was friendly with ex Mail editor Geordie Greig and the Middletons had Mail editor guiding them pre marriage and journalists in their corner championing their cause.

    The idea it isn’t the done thing for royals to complain about press is just not true. Charles sued the Mail for same thing that Meghan did (copyright & privacy for publishing his diary) which the press liked to conveniently omit. After marriage William & Kate issued numerous complaints about paparazzi behaviour with support from politicians like David Cameron & they obviously sued over Kate’s nude pics.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/aug/28/dailytelegraph-duchess-of-cambridge

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/william-and-kate-deserve-privacy-for-george-and-charlotte-says-david-cameron_n_7991612/

    So entire premise that it broke royal rules for Harry to issue statement for Meghan is false & is typical of double standards relating to Meghan.

    As someone mentioned we didn’t see William worry about how long Peter was with his fiancée before proposing or Beatrice with Edo who all dated for around same length as H&m. So what was his real concern with Meghan?

    • Blujfly says:

      William and Kate’s statement about paparazzi allegedly stalking George included a line claiming their police protection might mistake one for a terrorist and shoot them. But that was fine.

    • Tessa says:

      I think the hitpieces on Diana were not a great idea and not everybody bought into them. The books got scathing reviews by some and when Charles Victim or Villain by Junor came out it was very controversial. Seward even blamed Diana for Charles affair with Camilla. Scoots was not really all that protective of Keen–he cut her loose and broke up with her and looked miserable with her before the breakup. And he had her wait years before settling for her. And also Edo had a pregnant fiancee that he broke up with and it did not take him long to take up with Beatrice. No qualms about that from Scooter apparently.

    • Eurydice says:

      William’s real concern with Meghan is that she would take Harry away from him.

  15. Amy Bee says:

    Is there anything new in this book? If this is supposed to be about William and Kate why isn’t there any discussion about KP denying to the press that William was upset about Harry’s statement?

  16. sunniside up says:

    Interesting to see another story attacking Charles and William, and making Harry the hero.

    • Nerd says:

      It isn’t meant to make Harry the hero or to attack William and Charles. These are excerpts from a book that is supposed to be about Will and Kate’s “great love story” but it is obviously an attempt to attack Harry and Meghan and rewrite what Harry white in his book. The problem is that Myers is failing at rewriting this because he doesn’t realize that he’s basically confirming what Harry and Meghan have said previously and what most of us who have actually been paying attention have been saying. The problem wasn’t Harry and Meghan. The problem is how Charles, Camilla, William and Kate refused to welcome Meghan from the beginning and they were intentionally lying and leaking on them to make them like they were the problem. Even listening to Myers and other royal media talk about what happened, it’s clear that they don’t see how the other royals treatment wasn’t welcoming, kind or appropriate. So when telling the thought makes them look bad, it isn’t because of an attempt to make Harry or Meghan into the hero. It’s because Charles, Camilla, William and Kate were actually the villains from the beginning.

  17. Elly says:

    Over the years since Harry met Meghan, I’ve often seen comments that compared Meghan’s vilification by the BM to Camilla and Kate’s. Apparently, Camilla and Kate put up with it so Meghan should too. First of all, the level of venom Meghan received doesn’t even compare. Plus the racism that’s added to the toxic brew. We also mustn’t forget that Meghan was an immigrant and was adjusting to culture shock and the lack of any close friends or family. Kate and Camilla both had large extended families to turn to for support. Regarding the king and Willy, if the shoe fits… They both had the power to say something in support of Meghan and they didn’t. IMO they’re both reprehensible and disgusting human beings.

    • Becks1 says:

      It’s like Meghan said to Oprah – rude and racist are not the same.

    • HuffnPuff says:

      Yes, the racism should have been the signal to the entire royal family that someone needed to say something. I’ve seen this minimization of racism many times though. White people equating things said to them or about them as “harmless”. They don’t realize that these are micro aggressions and minorities take those hits every day not just once in a while. That should never be tolerated and Charles and William should be mad at themselves for not realizing it.

    • Nic919 says:

      Camellia was criticized for being an adulterer and kate was criticized for being lazy and not having a job. They were criticized for things which were true.

      Meghan was criticized for her skin colour and not being lazy. And it had been at a scale never seen before.

      • Elly says:

        Exactly, Meghan did absolutely nothing to deserve any of the criticism. Whereas, (especially) Camilla and Kate did.

  18. YankeeDoodles says:

    This is to reply to @Elly, there are also objective and compelling reasons *why* Camilla and Kate received negative coverage, Camilla especially. FFS, she was the mistress. I mean. Come on. You didn’t expect a bit of friction? Really???? Kate, meanwhile, wasn’t unpopular at all, until she began to act like a doormat. “Waity Katey,” seems mild in comparison to the barrage that was directed at Meghan. I mean. Really. These people are deluded.

    • Nerd says:

      Not to mention that the things said to Meghan were racist in nature but they also went beyond her and included racist attacks of her mother and her future children. Then once she had Archie and then Lilibet, those racists articles, comments and even worse THREATS, were also directed towards her children. No matter how many times people try to compare their situation to Meghan’s, there weren’t viable attacks and threats of harm to them and their children like there are towards Meghan and her children. There aren’t people in jail for making threats towards any of the other royal wives and their children. So as Meghan said “Rude and racist are not the same”.

      • Elly says:

        Yes, so disgusting. Plus they would defend Andrew because he’s “loyal”. I lost count of the number of times that was said. It tells you what kind of people they are that they attack children but defend a pedo.

      • Christine says:

        Then there’s the entire batshit*t crazy contingent that swears up and down that Meghan never gave birth to her children, and in fact they are not related to her at all. It’s so messed up, and to compare it to ANYTHING that Kate or Camilla had to deal with is proof these people are not serious about anything. Just sit down, the racism aimed at Meghan, Archie, and Lili is CRIMINAL. There are people in prison for threats against them. Stop conflating all of the royal wives, they are not the same.

    • Nic919 says:

      Also the media dropped the waity Katey stuff once the engagement happened. Kate was getting whitewashed after that point and was protected.

      Meanwhile Meghan got attacked by the family in addition to the media.

  19. Brassy Rebel says:

    I believe there is a straight line from how the Windsor men treat the women in their lives to the initial royal indifference and even resentment to the allegations of raping a minor against Andrew. In spite of the occasional female monarch, the British monarchy is a patriarchal institution steeped in misogyny which holds that women and girls have no value. Harry’s reaction to Meghan’s abusive treatment by the media (and eventually by the monarchy itself) violated the rule that women, especially nonroyal women, are of no importance. They are to be fashionable and fertile according to one royal observer. Harry was rejecting this which offended his father’s and brother’s sensibilities but also shocked them. In their eyes, Meghan was nobody. They wanted Harry to leave it at that.

    • Becks1 says:

      I think this is a good point and its interesting, because there certainly have been strong female members in that family – QEII, Queen Mary, the Queen Mother (the original steel marshmallow, sorry Kate), and yes, Queen Victoria.

      but all seem to have ceded power to the men – not just their husbands (I mean the QM lived over half her life without hers) but to the prime ministers, the Tommy Lascelles of the palace world, etc. It should be more of a matriarchal institution and yet it is still steeped in the patriarchy.

  20. YankeeDoodles says:

    I think you’re right, @BrassyRebel. They still carry the taint of Henry VIII. The Continental monarchies just treat women differently. Which is not to say that the men are impeccably behaved. Not all of them are faithful as spouses but they seem to respect the women they married, and just keep their other affairs in a separate compartment. They seem generally not to employ mistresses to humiliate their wives as Charles did. There seems to be more customary acknowledgement and respect for women in general, I’m thinking of Letizia of Spain, who had a prominent career before she married Felipe, or Maxima of the Netherlands, or Mary of Denmark, or Victoria of Sweden, only Norway has let the side down, as they say. Monaco has Caroline, who seems to take her role seriously despite not being in the LoS. All of those women represent their countries with character and wit and style. They aren’t simply people who wanted to be in tabloids wearing nice clothes. They all have personalities. Meghan would have slotted right into that kind of monarchy.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      The British media and the royal “experts” promote this blatant misogyny too. Whenever Harry is seen treating his wife as an equal, he is portrayed by the royal sycophants as henpecked and p-whipped. It’s quite an extraordinary narrative in the 21st century. And very revealing of their whole mindset about women.

    • BrackenSweetwater says:

      Ah, Monaco change their LoS, Caroline is #3 after the twins.

  21. therese says:

    And here is a sighting of the creature known as the Bald Willy: not seen very often out of his habitat and very skitterish indeed, and known to be very temperamental. In an article here yesterday I think about Andrew, it was said that Andrew (and the family) didn’t want Willy to marry Kate, because he thought she was beneath him. I think William thought so too, he knew what he was settling for, and I think he is still angry about it. Which shows itself in different ways. He shows his contempt for Kate also, and I think he doesn’t think she is very smart. But then, neither is he. Anyway, his buyer’s regret may have projected itself on Harry.

  22. JudyB says:

    Beware Disney Fans: Being a princess is not as glamorous as portrayed in fairy tales!

    Very good points about the British monarchy being patriarchal, even though they have had some very strong queens over the centuries. Most importantly, the “patriarchs” pass on their behavior to their children because of their behavior. Think about Phillip telling Charles to marry but continue to have his mistresses? Charles also was given advice to marry someone very young and malleable, which he did with Diana. We know now that Phillip and Elizabeth did NOT have a lifelong real marriage, and that she somehow accepted his womanizing. That certainly had to have been noticed by his children, as least two of which have followed his lead in their marriages.

    And now, imagine the messages that William’s two sons and daughter are receiving in their home–it is OK to mistreat your wife with insults, ignoring, and not being around. Surely, they know their father disappears for long periods of time, and as as they get older, they will figure out where he goes. He is also teaching his children that everyone should do what you tell them because you are royal. They are also learning that the best way to deal with something you do not like is to yell, scream, and throw things. Ditto for it being OK for a man, especially a royal one, to insist on being pampered and given whatever he wants. And most importantly, it is a good idea to keep all of this a secret and to lie about it!

    Thankfully, Harry and Meghan’s children are being raised in California where they will not be observing all this royal bad behavior.

  23. QuiteContrary says:

    I always remember that early joint appearance captured in the photo above. Meghan came across as so relaxed and thoughtful and feminist … and Kate was her usual mumbling, inane self. It was clear from the beginning that Meghan was so far superior to Kate in intellect and charisma.

    I’m sure William absolutely hated that. And now we know that William was the insecure whiny baby all along, while Harry was the secure and fierce protector of his family and wife.

    • Christine says:

      I am convinced the Heads Together event is what sent Kate around the bend, and brought us to this point in time where her mental health really appears to be on the brink. You can see it on her face when Meghan is speaking, the dawning awareness that she is a complete and total lightweight, and is now going to be compared to the competent, intelligent, curious, charming, and charismatic Meghan for the rest of her life. It flipped something in her that is really mean and broken.

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