Telegraph: Charles Spencer did not ‘warn’ the palace or his nephews

The panic is difficult to miss in the current cycle, and it’s a particular kind of panic emanating from King Charles and his merry band of sycophants. For the past month, I have not gotten “panic” about the Sussexes’ UK return whatsoever – even if Charles was caught off-guard, he clearly believes he has the tools to manage the Sussexes, regardless of what they’re saying or doing. He does not have the ability to control or manage the Spencers, specifically the Earl Spencer, Princess Diana’s brother. Which is why the king is throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Charles Spencer from the word go. Well, the Telegraph is trying to do running commentary about the palace fallout from Charles Spencer’s Swan Song, the revelation that then-Prince Charles said “rest assured, we’ll forget her soon enough” just days after Diana’s death. Some main points:

Charles Spencer didn’t warn his nephews or the palace: Earl Spencer did not warn Prince Harry, Prince William or Buckingham Palace about the contents of his memoir of Diana, Princess of Wales, The Telegraph understands. Although it was announced that the Earl was writing the book, the security operation around it was so tight that the manuscript was not shared in advance. The Princess’s sons, former husband and Buckingham Palace were also not warned about allegations made in its pages.

King Charles’ former PR guru says the king ordered staffers to never criticize Diana: The King told staff never to criticise Diana, Princess of Wales, for years after her death, a former aide has said. The then Prince of Wales was “absolutely emphatic” in ensuring that her memory was respected, according to Julian Payne, his communications secretary at the time. [Payne] said he did not recognise “the way the King is being characterised in those remarks”, telling BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “Naturally, we ended up discussing her several times during that summer because the media interest was so intense. What I remember was he was very clear that there was never to be any criticism, never to be any pushback on the narratives that were usually highly critical of him. He was absolutely emphatic that we were to respect her memory and not undermine it in any way. When he was telling us there was never to be any criticism or pushback, that wasn’t about him. That was absolutely about the late Princess and her memory, so it seems to me very odd that in the moment itself, with the grief of his family and his own shock, that he would choose that moment to use those words. It’s just not language that I recognise.”

A source close to the King disputes Charles Spencer’s book passage: A source close to the King said the alleged comment about Diana was “just not in his nature and it certainly wasn’t in his nature at that time, when he was a man absolutely grief-stricken”. The source added that, at the time, he was “paralysed with grief” and defied protocol by insisting that Diana be afforded a full state-style ceremonial funeral, and that her coffin be draped in the royal standard as it was returned from Paris to London.

[From The Telegraph]

The complaining and explaining is really amazing to see. It turns out that a whole-ass king is capable of complaining and explaining at any time, and does so whenever he feels like it. That last part is worth a highlight – then-Prince Charles was “a man absolutely grief-stricken.” And yet, in the palace’s Wednesday statement, King Charles is apparently “mindful that the pain of fraternal grief can cloud reason, affect judgment and color memory in ways others do not recognize, even many years after such a loss.” Meaning that Prince Charles’ grief for the ex-wife he hated made his memory sharp as a tack, but Charles Spencer’s grief for his sister made his memory cloudy? Grief is so funny, I guess.

As for whether Charles Spencer informed his nephews or the palace about anything in the book… I believe that Spencer didn’t send out advance copies to anyone. But I also believe that Harry probably had some idea of some of the stories in the book.

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33 Responses to “Telegraph: Charles Spencer did not ‘warn’ the palace or his nephews”

  1. Tessa says:

    Penny Junor wrote several books about C and C and she also wrote negatively about Diana. Interestingly enough, Junor said she had the cooperation of C and C in her writing these books. So how come Charles did not tell her nothing negative about Diana. Camilla even vacationed with Junor. Seward wrote a slew of books that criticized Diana beginning ca. 1998. So how come Charles did not tell her not to. Joan Rivers was an ardent fan of Charles, she openly insulted Diana on the Larry King Show. Charles invited her to his birthday party. It does not add up that he told people not to criticize Diana.

  2. Jferber says:

    The Telegraph lies. And I’m certain Harry knew beforehand.

    • K8erade says:

      Maybe but I also wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t either. That’s a tough conversation to have with your nephew about his father. I can see Spencer saying “there’s going to be some difficult things said about your father…”

    • sunniside up says:

      The Telegraph was the second worse newspaper to lie about the EU according to the press regulator, I wish that Harry hadn’t chosen it for one of his briefings.

  3. Tessa says:

    Blair was the one who insisted on the funeral. Not Charles. Charles was said to be worried about himself and public reaction to him. And how come Charles did not insist that prayers for his late ex wife be said at these service the morning after Diana died. Her sons were there.

  4. enza says:

    Just a note that you used double quotes in the statement by the King but used US spelling so if you change the spelling to US it should be single–sorry but Canadians like me notice this. This is the actual statement:

    “While we do not comment on books as a matter of principle, His Majesty is mindful that the pain of fraternal grief can cloud reason, affect judgment and colour memory in ways others do not recognise, even many years after such a loss,” it said.

    • sunniside up says:

      It can be difficult to get the spelling right, my computer is set for British English but there seems to be no way to change the spell checker from American English, I now keep getting told that my spellings are incorrect because I use British English. Dyslexia lures KO

  5. Puff Updater says:

    Thank you for including the Tampon portrait in this. You have a gift, lol.

  6. Shiela Kerr says:

    That gutter Telegraph knows nothing. All of this hyperventilating over a brother honoring the memory of his sister while clarifying the utter nonsense that has been allowed to be published re her.

  7. Harriet says:

    Oh, now they care about the boys.

    Have you read Safari: A Memoir of a Worldwide Travel Pioneer by Geoffrey Kent? 2015

    The very morning of Diana’s passing, Charles was already offloading Harry to the first person who called. He asked this guy to take Harry for the October break. This call was just moments after telling his sons their mother had passed. Why not let him stay with his aunts? This was BEFORE the conversations with Charles Spencer…

    • MaisiesMom says:

      Seriously? Diana died and the first thing he was thinking about was how to offload his kid now that he wouldn’t be with his mother over break? You can’t make this shit up.

      • Harriet says:

        Quote:
        “And I think of Prince Charles, my extremely revered friend . . . and in that very moment, he answers the phone.

        “Sir,” I say. “It’s Geoffrey Kent.” I search for more words, but only the obvious came out: “I’m so very sorry . . .”

        He is deeply saddened about the situation and, of course, very concerned for his sons. I say what else was burning in my throat. “If there is anything I can do—really, I mean that—” “Actually,” he said, sounding somewhat relieved for the first time in our conversation, “Harry’s half-term at Ludgrove is coming up in October. He was meant to spend it with his mother . . .” Prince Charles went on to explain that he had a state visit planned to South Africa, and by that time, Prince William’s half-term at Eton would have concluded. “For Harry, though . . . I think perhaps it would do him good to get away on safari for a few days and meet up with me in South Africa later. What do you think?”

        Prince Charles knew his boys had fun when they travelled with me, but now he was saying something more: there wasn’t just anyone with whom he’d send Harry off on holiday. In the most traumatic and high-pressure period in their family’s life, he was entrusting the safety and well-being of his son—probably the most sought-after thirteen-year-old boy in the world—to me. Of course I will take Harry somewhere, I tell him. I didn’t want him to worry about a single thing. When we hang up, I call Caroline. “We need to create an itinerary that starts out at Kilimanjaro Airport.” “But Geoff, remember when Joan Rivers travelled to the Serengeti? Even there, the tribesmen recognized her.”

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      Oh, wow 😲!

  8. QuiteContrary says:

    A source close to the King said the alleged comment about Diana was “just not in his nature and it certainly wasn’t in his nature at that time, when he was a man absolutely grief-stricken”.

    Snarling that Diana would soon be forgotten is 100% in Charles’ nature … and if he was grief-stricken over her death, it’s because he was freaked out by how much attention her death was getting and the grief was all pity for himself.

    Charles acted according to his nature and lashed out at Charles Spencer, I’m sure.

    I think he traveled to Paris because he wanted to exert as much control as possible over the situation.

  9. Tessa says:

    Charles made a show of inviting later in 1997–Diana’s mother Frances to visit the boys. After that she was not seen much around then. Frances Shand Kydd had it written in her will that her former son in law Charles not be invited to her funeral.

  10. Becks1 says:

    Aw, Charles needs help defending himself.

    There is such panic about this book bc he absolutely was an ahole to Diana, before and after her death. no one was allowed to criticize her? Then where did all the negative stories come from?

    • Jais says:

      Just not aloud, in front of the kids, was how I took it. But bts and with the press is a whole other story.

    • Nic919 says:

      And this is where I mention what Harry recalls in Spare about the events after he was told of her death and what Charles Spencer has described fits right in.

      Two first hand recollections that match will win every time.

  11. K8erade says:

    I think The Telegraph is trying to write a relevant spin piece that doesn’t sound like it’s spoon fed from the palace.

    I’m really torn. I was 13 when Diana died and I remember that time well. I remember the day after, Charles looked shocked and like he had a lot of emotions going through him. Was it an act? Maybe.

    But to say that it wasn’t in Charles’ nature to say what he said is a lie. That was absolutely in Charles’ nature. Was it out of malice? Was it anger phase of grief? Hard to say. I believe Charles Spencer.

    I can see Charles Spencer and Harry having to discuss some tough truths over the years about things that happened around that time. I can also see this particular conversation being difficult.

    I think this is just another nail in the coffin for the House of Windsor. With stagflation in the UK, and now discussions of a UK breakup becoming mainstream, if a referendum towards a breakup comes to pass, I don’t see the royal family surviving and wasting time having to spin press like this instead of uniting the UK, is going to speed things along.

    • Nic919 says:

      And had William been decent and not called his own mother paranoid he might be in a place to right the ship. But he is no better than his own father in so many ways.

  12. Spirit K says:

    The way Charles has treated Diana and his own son Harry, makes me believe the comment made to the Earl of Spencer 100%; it is perfectly aligned with his character.

  13. trilogy says:

    The simple fact that dogsh*t Dad is still having his darling boy and family move around without security is proof enough that this is exactly in his nature.

  14. Eurydice says:

    Charles is trying to put 30 years worth of toothpaste back in the tube.

  15. VilleRose says:

    Anyone know if William and Charles Spencer are close? William seems to keep everyone at a distance who is sympathetic to Harry (can’t remember the last time I saw him interact with the York sisters in a cordial way in public). I could believe Charles saying nothing to William about the contents of his book depending on their relationship but I would like to think Harry was given somewhat of a heads up. Maybe not exact passages but something to the effect of “hey your dad isn’t portrayed in the most positive light.”

    As for how King Charles felt after Diana died, I could believe he was in shock and probably had lots of complicated feelings. And I can believe he said some not so nice things about Diana after she died too. Death brings out intense emotions in people when they are grieving. And I do believe Charles grieved, he isn’t immune to feelings. But not in the same way a loving, faithful husband would have.

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