Michael B Jordan is one of GQ’s Men of the Year, a well-deserved title. MBJ has been turning in great work for years, but 2018 really did take him next-level, mostly because of Black Panther. What I like about MBJ is that he’s a man with a plan – he really has concrete goals for how he’s going to take over Hollywood and become a combination of Will Smith, Tom Cruise and Leo DiCaprio. Those are the three aspirations he named to GQ, and yet… he’s never heard of Leo’s P-ssy Posse? Damn, bro. Catch up on your late ‘90s and early ‘00s gossip. You can read the full GQ piece here. Some highlights:
When asked why Leo DiCaprio is one of his inspirations, and whether it has anything to do with the P-ssy Posse: “P-ssy Posse? Woooooooow. That’s…your words not mine, man,” Jordan says, putting his hands up, professing zero awareness of DiCaprio’s once lascivious circle of ’90s-era pals. “I didn’t even know that existed. Cool name… Leo. Patient. Makes great choices. Has an air of elusiveness.”
He wants to be more elusive: “One of his famous quotes is, like, ‘Why would I pay to see you on the weekend if I can see you every day during the week?’ ” Jordan is paraphrasing Denzel Washington, who was actually paraphrasing Sidney Poitier, but the point is simple: A star ought to cultivate a sense of inaccessibility. “I didn’t want it to be like, ‘Oh, there’s Mike again.’ I want it to be like, ‘Oh sh-t—Mike’s here.’ ”
He insists he’s single: “My career is awesome. It is going great. There’s other places in my life that I’m f–king lacking at. I’m very mature and advanced in a lot of areas of life. Dating may not be one of ’em. My personal life is not. I don’t really know what dating is… But it’s like, I could meet you, right now, boom, right here. Me and you sitting here chilling, whatever. Meal, whatever. Somebody could be over there, see this. And all of a sudden, you’re my girl now…. So then they’re going to talk about you, they’re going to find out who you are. They’re gonna find out what your Instagram is, they’re going to find us in that. And all the fan club and everybody else is going to find out who you are, and now you and I are forever associated with one another. So now, how do you go anywhere normal, chill, just getting to know somebody that you just met, that you may not—may or may not—hit it off at all? That part of dating is tough.”
It bothers him that black women think he only dates white women: “Like, damn. Of all the places that I’m getting this, it’s coming from here?”
On his quotes about the lack of black mythology and black folklore: “I meant we don’t have black mythologies and folklore that’s on the big screen and small screen, period,” he tells me, emphasizing the part of the quote that was missing when it went viral. “And I want to help bring those to the masses, the same stories, bedtime stories, that I was being told of Anansi the Spider and the story of Hannibal and Mansa Musa and all these historical figures!”
There was a big section devoted to the “does MBJ only date white women?” question, and it’s clear that it really bugs him that there is that perception. It really bugs him that black women clown him whenever there are new batches of photos with MBJ hanging out with “a boatful of Beckys” or, you know, Kendall Jenner. I take him at his word that he likes and dates women of all races, even though I know some of his public statements on the matter are just that: public positioning so he retains a wide fanbase of women of all races who are united in lust for MBJ.
Photos courtesy of GQ.
Hummmm
“Me Thinks the gentleman doth protest too much” Many BW Myself included don’t care but he certainly seems to , he keeps bringing it up everytime he has an interview
Considering that a great deal of high profile black men only date white/white adjacent , why is it that only some get any flack for it ??
He Needs to stop talking now as he is dangerously close to Taye Diggs territory with the navel gazing , projection, chips on the shoulder mixed in with some good old misogynoir and entitlement to BW coins and or well wishes
>misogynoir
Hahahah, stealing this one!
He is handsome, but that dog is EVERYRTHING! That’s all I’ve got lol
That dog is spiffy. Him, meh.
The problem is that he low key insulted black women repeatedly for years before realizing that they were part of his base. Now he seems desperate.
No he didn’t
Yes, he did and he did it multiple times.
Mogul, please provide examples then.
You know that google is just a few clicks away, right? Mogul isn’t your research assistant.
But she made a claim, now it’s on her/him to back it up.
Mogul made a connection that you disagree with, now it’s up to you and whoever else disagrees to fact check.
That’s. Not. How. It. Works.
How what works – the comments section of Celebitchy? This isn’t a court of law, stop making people do work for you.
@Athyrmose; @Eto;
I did Google and couldn’t find anything except for articles where MBJ has had to defend himself for simply being pictured with white women. I’m not accusing either of you of lying but I think if you’re going to accuse someone of discrimination, you should back it up.
You just backed it up. If he feels he must defend himself in – multiple articles – for simply being pictured with Beck… I mean white women then something is up and he is feeling the pressure. I wouldn’t be surprised if he only sees white women but of course that would be his thing.
He’s good friends with Jamie Foxx that also never admits to only dating white women but he does. Both Jamie’s baby mamas are white and of course his girlfriend of the last 5 years is white (Katie Holmes). I understand why they do this. The amount of horrible comments on the shade room Instagram about Katie and Jamie was eye opening to me. A lot of black women really hate when a famous black man dates a white women. I don’t get that. You should be allowed to date whatever race you want without getting hate. Taye Diggs got the same hate for being married to Idnia Menzel
As just one black woman, it is not black men dating white women that is the issue. It is the black men who will have nothing to do with black women and who go so far as to ignore them. I think as a non woman of color you don’t understand because you have been told since birth that you fit and belong in this world. Black women through history have been alternately abused and used (by slave masters), looked upon as a workhorse or completely ignored. The anger comes from our own men treating us the same way that the “white man” has treated us through history. Add to that, the black woman is assigned a lot of negative stereotypes in this society, “the baby mama, the angry black woman, etc.”. We aren’t angry, we are hurt and want to be loved and seen just like every other woman. Again, this is one black woman’s view.
I totally understand that but why hate on the women they are dating and not just the men themselves? I don’t think Jamie sees block women as less than. Well I hope not but I’ve never got that vibe. I just think he has a thing for white women. Just like the Kardashian’s have a thing for black men. If both are good people in the relationship I don’t believe anyone should get hate for who they are dating.
If I could give your comment a standing ovation I would. You have encapsulated what it’s like as a black woman. Especially in America.
@Caitlin-No one hates white women. This isn’t about them. This is about a certain type of black man who doesn’t know anything about black women (which they will never admit) and say negative things about them any chance they get. Black women don’t do that to them or white women, which is something he should think about.
Thank you, ValiantlyVarnished. :-). Peace and blessings.
@Gigi white women will never understand this because they are seen as more desirable mates. Black women and Asian men are seen as the least desirable in terms of dating. You can look at any commercial, magazine cover and see that white women have always been put on a pedestal in terms of beauty and status. If a black woman even embraces her skin or hair texture she is made to feel less than, like “how dare you not conform to the European standard of beauty” where I live dating is difficult because most of the black men are only seen interested in dating white women or a light skinned black woman.
@BLUESKY, Yes! To everything you said.
Agree +1000
I checked his instagram and he does post photos of black women and promotes the work they do (including activists).
So, it’s incorrect to say that he ignores black women and wants nothing to do with them.
I’m Palestinian and I see the same behavior with a lot of Arab men.
@LYDIA, his mama is black so we know he deals with black women on some level, so what’s your point? Another one who misses the point. “Reclaiming my time, reclaiming my time.”
Great comment Gigi! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽You guys should check out the latest Lena waithe produced shows. Waithe is doing great work particularly for black women by writing for and casting for all kinds of black women. She’s more culturally important than these male black movie stars that are just about themselves and their movie stardom, imo.
@GIGI If you made your point without saying something that is easily proven false, I would only have agreed with it.
Apologies. I meant to post in the comment thread below.
I don’t agree with the hate they get for dating white women but I can understand the hurt it stems from. There are a lot of black men out there who see being with a white woman as some sort of status symbol and they will criticize, demean and dehumanize black women just for living while praising white women. It’s disgusting and draining. There are a lot of black women who don’t see dating outside their race as an option so for them white women are limiting their options for partners and “taking away their men” in a sense. Personally I never limited my options in a partner based on race or ethnicity, I find men of all backgrounds attractive 🤷🏾♀️
@Lydia she never said Michael was one of the black men who ignores black women or made any claim that he doesn’t promote the work of black women, you’re reaching and not comprehending the salient points being made. A general statement was made in an effort to explain why black women are hurt by black men who exclusively date white women while disparaging black women at the same time. We’re talking about self loathing and white supremacy but you keep missing that because you’re focus is on the wrong thing.
@Tanesha. She didn’t in her first post (though why talk about that in a post about him if you’re not talking about him?). She did, however, make it clear in her reply to my first post that she was talking about him as well.
I agree with the points being made about black women being treated badly and with disrespect by way too many people.
Still waiting on LYDIA to have a point.
@Lydia she didn’t say that at all in any of her comments. She’s speaking on that issue because Caitlin Bruce said ” A lot of black women really hate when a famous black man dates a white women. I don’t get that.” I’m not sure you fully understood what she was saying based on your responses, they seem way out of left field honestly.
@GIGI and Tanesha, so you both agree that he doesn’t ignore black women and it’s untrue that he doesn’t want anything to do with black women?
Glad we all agree.
Still wondering who GIGI was talking about when she mentioned ‘he’ in her first reply to me, though.
@Lydia I’d appreciate it if you didn’t put words in my mouth, I never spoke on Michael period and I don’t know whether or not he’s interested in black women or if he’s ignoring us because I don’t pay attention to him honestly. I don’t know the man, don’t follow his dating life and don’t keep up with his social media because I don’t care enough about him to do any of that. I do find it rather interesting that he says he’s only ever been seen out with women who aren’t black and I do think he’s been quite defensive when asked about dating black women. Why are you so hung up on that of all the things we discussed?
@Tanesha, I would appreciate it if you didn’t put words in my mouth. I never said I have an issue with ‘All’ the things you have discussed. In fact, I already made it clear that I agree with a lot of what GIGI said.
I have an issue with making it seem that Michael B Jordan ignores black women and wants nothing to do with them, when that’s clearly not true.
@TANESHA86, at this point sis, we are just going to have to move passed this LYDIA person. Not really sure what her issue is or what she is playing at. Some folks just want to be contrary just for the sake of being contrary. Thank you so much for expressing yourself so brilliantly in all your posts.
@GIGI look at the post just above yours to see what the issue is.
Michael B Jordan does not ignore black women. It’s also untrue that he wants nothing to do with them.
@Lydia I see now what the problem is, you lack reading comprehension which would be funny if it weren’t so sad. I said OF all the things we discussed why are you so hung up on a point no one ever even argued. One of two things must be true: you’re either trolling hence the intellectually dishonest strawman or you really don’t understand what we’re saying.
I have made a simple point from the beginning: Michael B Jordan does not ignore black women and it’s also untrue that he wants nothing to do with them. I stuck to that point despite the insults and comments that added nothing but ‘Still waiting on LYDIA to have a point’.
While you claim I lack reading comprehension and honesty, neither one of you has still managed to explain who the ‘he’ was in GIGI’s first reply to me.
Finally, I find it quite dishonest that one of you says that they are waiting for a point and that they don’t know what my issue is (in two separate comments), but when I therefore explain it again, I immediately get accused of being ‘hung up on a point’ by the other.
Lydia, grow up and listen when people talk about things you know nothing about outside of looking at a person’s Instagram. You want to point out one small inconsistency in one word “he” because you have no argument and no point. You don’t get to control where an argument goes and say, “but no, I was just talking about that ONE thing,” because you think that makes you right on some technicality. No one argued the one, small, insignificant point you keep trying to make because you are missing the forest for the trees here. Ugh
Tanesha and Gigi thought you had an honest question and you wasted their time by being petty and childish. Now you’ve learned nothing and they are not likely to ever want to explain anything to you again. It’s pretty obvious you’re just some drooling MBJ Stan.
If people make an argument, make sure you’re correct about the facts. GIGI either did or did not talk about Michael B Jordan. Instead of saying ‘I wasn’t talking about him’ or ‘I see he’s not like that’ (and have that be the end of it), she started talking about ‘he’ and ‘his mama’. Tanesha then said she didn’t talk about him. GIGI either did or she didn’t. That’s why I asked about ‘he’ and that -still- hasn’t been clarified.
It’s also strange that I am simultaneously being accused of not having a point and being hung up on one.
Also, they weren’t nicely explaining things to me. Check out GIGI’s first reply to me. That’s not explaining, but being annoyed that I point out that something in her first post was incorrect. If that is called ‘explaining’, I’m not interested.
Not sure what ‘honest question’ you’re talking about. I have made it abundantly clear that my point was that Michael B Jordan does not ignore black women and it’s untrue he wants nothing to do with them. All the attempts at derailment and insults didn’t make me talk about something else they could attack me on, so now the only thing that can be said is that I am hung up on a point…that I don’t have.
@Lydia here’s what Gigi said “As just one black woman, it is not black men dating white women that is the issue. It is the black men who will have nothing to do with black women and who go so far as to ignore them” and you responded with “I checked his instagram and he does post photos of black women and promotes the work they do (including activists). So, it’s incorrect to say that he ignores black women and wants nothing to do with them.” Not once in any statement did Gigi specifically call out MBJ, she made a general statement about the black men who do behave the way she described and YOU attributed it to him. Please help me understand the disconnect because I seriously don’t see what your statement has to do with hers or mine for that matter. You’re hell-bent on defending someone who isn’t even being attacked or called out and completely missing the larger point being discussed which is why black women take issue with famous/successful black men who date white women. You’ve derailed the conversation…
Lydia, you’re still missing the point. You were the one to bring up MBJ in response to Gigi’s first comment. Nowhere in her first comment did she bring up MBJ. Your refusal to see that does not make you right. You don’t want to be wrong so your latching onto a word in her second comment that was only made in response to You bringing him up.
Your argument is that she was talking about him, but she wasn’t. So, you have no real argument, and continue to have no real point.
The reason is this: white supremacy has made black men believe that in order to be accepted at the table with other white men, their women have to be white. The ultimate prize for some black men to be viewed at as successful, is walking into white spaces with a white woman on his arm. It’s not in black women’s heads. it’s how we’ve been treated for a long time. As the great Ertha Kitt said, during her affair with Harry Belafonte, he told her a black woman can’t do a damn thing for his career. Take a look at most massively successful black men They aren’t with black women. Or they leave their original black wife for new golden Becky. It’s a long history of black women feeling belittled, thrown away by black men when years ago, their asses would’ve been hanging from a tree just for looking at these white women.
IKNOW, you speak the truth.
That’s not true about successful black men only being with white women. See: Will & Jada Smith, Denzel and Paulette Washington, as much as I can’t stand either of them Beyonce and Jay Z, Steph and Aeysha Curry and the biggest example…Barack and Michelle Obama.
Do white men approve this?
@IKnow – such a good comment.
Wow, you could name six whole famous people, Dani. Good for you, just keep discounting what is being said by women who actually know what they’re talking about.
White women being fetishized as Asian women are. Ick. Mind you, some White and Asian men fetishize Black women, the way they talk about them.
This line between dating people of other races and seeming like you are fetishizing people of that race…sometimes a thin one. And then throw in personal attraction (the idea that Asian men are “undesirable” is staggering to me, for instance). Mind you, I’m man-crazy. 😛
@Caitlin Bruce you clearly don’t “totally understand”. Your view of Jamie and MBJ are through the lens of a white woman. You have no idea how he either of them see black women. But MBJ has certainly given black women a strong idea of how he feels about us with things he has said in the past that were disparaging about black women. THAT and the fact that literally every woman he has been seen out with has been white gives us a strong idea about how he feels about us. The same goes for Jamie. Also when a black man has a preference of ONLY dating white women it is usually connected to deep-seated internalized racial bias. Mainly because white women are held up as the standard of beauty. They see being with a white woman as an “achievement”.
Great comment. Standing “O” for you as well.
@Dani no one said ONLY she said MANY successful black men pursue white women. Folks are reading to respond and not to understand, good grief.
I know this conversation has also popped up in regard to Donald Glover.
Caitlin, you don’t understand. Stop trying at this point because you are focused on the wrong thing. You read what I wrote but you still are not hearing.
So, you can’t mention one side of the issue without mentioning the actions of those men. These men use their platform to denigrate black women, they do this which influence the public opinion about black women. And those white women take from those comments that they’re superior to black women, and they start disrespecting black women because they know no one will defend black women (look at the Kardashians). Black women get enough denigration from other races without their own counterparts who are famous, publicly belittling black women. While black women, never talk or act like that towards. Famous black women make sure to use their platform to uplift black women no matter who their dating. When a famous black women is dating a man of a different race, the internet call them bedw3nch3s
….and don’t forget, black men who exclusively date white women are still vocal about why black women (who they despise) can’t date men of other races. It’s sick.
HK9 – That is effin disturbing!
I just want to let y’all know that I appreciate that you’re taking the time to explain a perspective that exists outside my bubble.
Thank you.
🙂
The only thing that I’ll add to the excellent comments of Gigi, VV, BlueSky and others is that no one hated Taye Diggs because of his white wife. His white wife was the best thing about him. This BW and others I know of disliked him because HE seemed to think that dislike for his white wife was the only thing holding him back and that BW were the perpetrators as opposed to his attitude, arrogance, and general corniness.
Agreed, I still love Idina Menzel and to this day I’m still mad about the way he dogged her. Black women were mad at Taye because of Taye, not his wife.
@ Caitlin
Nope Taye Diggs gets hate BECAUSE Of Taye Diggs
He was unknown when he got his start in “Stella Got her Groove back ” a movie seen mainly due to BW , Angela Bassett . Whoopi and Terry (author)
BW started to give him props and in one of his very first TV (BET)interviews , he was met with a studio audience of BW cheering and shouting and giving him nothing but love.The interviewer asked” If he was seeing anyone ” ( standard question for upcoming actor /heartthrob ) Tayes response was to condescendingly respond “Yes but they may not like it “‘ accompanied with a dismissive wave of his hand towards the BW in the audience
This was BEFORE anyone knew him or who he was dating he was already being insultive and projecting issues on to BW where there were none
His entire career from the start has been on the backs of BW including Shonda Rimes casting him in Private Practice when his star was diminishing yet he never misses an opportunity to disparage BW just a few:
1) Preemptively Blame BW for hate mail sent to high profile IR couples only for FBI to nab some old white man in Alabama for it
2) Cosigning remarks a rapper Slim thug made about BW being no good
3) Blaming BW for the cancellation of his TV Show because of his wife , ignoring that Black men , White men , White women and others didn’t watch it either
This last point also speaks to an underlying issue with these men they are free to date whomever SIMILARLY BW are free to support whomever but many of them disparage and reject BW, yet feel entitled to BW support and coins …Go figure
@notthisagain Whoah, I had no idea about any of that stuff!
I thought Jamie was gay and he just finds it easier to have arrangements with these assorted white women re paternity/kids. Less complicated. That’s why he never acknowledges the women as his anything or goes anywhere with them in public. I thought they were more or less surrogates. He takes his daughter Corinne(?) everywhere. No one else.
Cleo2…you ain’t wrong! I figured that, too. DIdn’t Katt Williams recently out him? I know every male celebrity gets gay rumours, but I ran into Jaimie once and he def gave me “that” kind of look.
Date a black woman and put the argument to rest.
I have no love for him. I always go back to that comment he made about how he wouldn’t respect a woman who slept with HIM on the first date. So he’s fine bedding someone, but then SHE’S the one he wouldn’t respect? He seems to be a pretty clear-cut misogynist.
Oh, no, he said that? Nooo! I hate men like that. It’s like well you were there too. It kills me how some of these men who sleep around insist on an innocent “good girl” . Thesee men are not innocent, they slept around, how are you going to insult a woman for the same things you do? Another reason I’m glad I’m married. I would sleep with a guy, thinking he liked me too and after, never see them again. I’m 42 but if my husband and I were to get divorced i feel like i would never want to date again. It was hell. Noncommittal men, men who thought i was too old. Even though though we were both in our 30s. Men who thought i needed to lose weight. Then i lost weight, got told i didn’t have an ass, now i am too skinny. Etc etc, dating was hell to me.
God, people are the worst. That’s all such bullsh!t. I feel the same way; if something happened to my person, I’d be single forever.
Ew.
I remember that he said this, and ever since I am quite wary of him. Still enjoyed Creed, also a huge Tessa Thomson Fan. But I also think that he finds the name “pussy posse” great speaks for itself.
Danny Glover also has little respect for women (all colors). I was really blinded by his cute Community persona.
He actually probably does date black women, but yet, somehow only seems to be photographed with white women.
Ding, ding, ding: Thank you!!!! I was waiting for this to be pointed out.
Good point
Why does it matter who he dates? If he’s happy then I don’t see a problem.
It doesn’t matter to me but it must matter to him because he keeps bringing it up. I think he does protest too much at this point.
May we take a moment to admire that breathtakingly beautiful and happy canine posing with MBJ?
I have a feeling he’s another one of those brothers who don’t have any idea what black women think.
Don’t worry, white men don’t know what white women think either LOL. Doesn’t matter the race–very few men get the female mind.
I’m sure it bugs him, but there is a reason black women feel that way. He’s only been seen with non-black women publicly. Is it anyone’s business who he dates? No. This issue is bigger and deeper than Michael B. Jordan. Black women have felt/been slighted by successful black men for a very long time. I’m sure the reason why it bothers him is because black women are his base. Let’s see how he feels if his star rises to the Will Smith or Denzel stratosphere.
True, true. But, black men have a colorism problem, so the issue goes beyond just white women. If they do date or are romantically linked with a black woman it’s never one that is their skintone or darker.
Now, of course, everyone can see whomever the ‘f’ they want to. However, I think the issue is the historical and societal issues with colorism and misogynoir that brings up debate and polemic. And to be truthful, it’s a pattern that is so prevalent that it’s hard not to see pathology in it.
I think, as a black women myself, that when black women joke about his exclusive love of white women, that they are just joking. No one is going to lose sleep over it. BUT, we are aware of many black men that hate a handful of black women, so they close themselves off to all black women forever. Those self hating black men can kick rocks. To generalize that all black women are mean or loud or ugly is perpetuating white supremacy.
Yes! As I said above, this issue is way bigger than who this man dates. It’s about white supremacy and how some black men prop it up.
Tiger Woods. Tiger would not be caught dead with a black woman. In college he was the only black person on a golf course and decided then and there that he didn’t want to be black because it is too hard. So, by marrying the blond Swedish woman who was trolling for an athlete with some cash, Tiger felt that he had insulated himself from other blacks and had moved on up to the white side. Until the fried chicken and collard greens subject came up. LOL.
As a Black woman, I respect that whatever his dating choices are- they’re none of my Business. I am not diminished by who he’s seen with.
It doesn’t diminish me either but nothing wrong with calling it like it is. He is really pressed for people to know he dates black women, why is that? He protests too much at this point.
Welp…racism and self-loating has all sorts of blowback…and WAY TOO MANY BLACK MEN…denigrated Black women to justify their racial romantic choices….(yea…I’m looking at Michael “Bae”…FOR A REASON)…
So…he just gotta deal…and be happy that Black women are STILL giving him dollars…and keep his mouth shut cause that flow can STOP…in a heartbeat…
Agree
Yep. I hate even discussing this issue in mixed company (pardon the pun) because other folks don’t get it; especially (generally speaking) white people due to their utter inability / refusal to really address 400 years of racism in the US.
Don’t know what to tell you, dude. You got that reputation for a reason. Black women have enough issues without having their own men degrade them.
Boom!!!! Yes, girl.
Thank you!
This thread is 👌👌👌.
I don’t think he wants to date anyone. Period. I do think chances are he is hooking up with more white women than woc if we assume photographs can be a random QC of his dating pool.
However, his line about how he won’t get into a relationship because it would ruin her life reads hollow to me. I think he likes to be a free agent but wants to keep his fan base happy (and expand his brand). I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to be single; better to be single if you can’t commit. But saying I dont date because I love my work and fans too much is much more mini-van friendly. Hes been upping his PR game, and I think his brand will continue to grow and grow.
That he thinks “pussy posse” is a great name validates your theory….
I don’t know him too well aside from Black panther, but has he ever dated or been seen with a black woman? The pictures I’ve seen it’s always a white woman. The media has the power to portray you a certain way though so I honestly don’t know either way.
Oh look MB Jordan has a movie coming out, let me cater to the majority of my fan base again. I know he hates speaking about how he dates all women but not really. He can date who he wants to date but own that! You don’t want to date us but you will gladly take black women money for your projects. We don’t hear a peep out of him about dating until he had a movie coming out!
We’ve seen this song and dance before Mr Jordan when Black Panther was released. I didn’t see that movie multiple times because you said you like chocolate, vanilla and strawberry milk! I saw it to support Chadwick, Angela and the other actors and most importantly Ryan Coogler. I’ll see Creed 2 to support Ryan and Tesssa.
Per Andrew Gilllum “ A hot dog will holler”
I would love to match make him with Yara Shahidi!! She seems like such an amazing young woman! They would be a power couple.
Yara is BAE! I love that young woman. I also love MBJ, but she’s too good for him. He’s only interested in having sex and this point, he doesn’t want a real relationship. On top of that, Yara just turned 18 and he’s over 30. He comments on her pics all the time though! He’s always calling her a young queen.
I had zero idea she was so young?! Ops! LOL Amazing actress and so passionate about social change! On a superficial level her style is out of this world and she’s gorgeous, and on a deep level she’s just an amazing human!
Yara is too smart for him.
As a black woman, I don’t care who you date but I take note of it for future reference on a personal level. I’ve seen this happen with friends/acquaintance and for me – depending on the situation, it does denote some sort of self loathing. And I think it goes both ways, meaning black men or black women do it. I do believe its something you can work out, recognise and come to terms with, but that kind of self awareness takes time. And given that this is primarily a US situated discussion it seems to happen in the AA community alone, but as someone who lives outside of a eurocentric society I’ve seen this type of self loathing manifested in other ethnicities too. Please don’t @ me too much, this is just my observations based on people I know – nothing I’ve read.
How can you tell it’s self loathing and not people just not caring about what skin color people who they date have? Have you asked or do your friends live in an area where it would be unlikely they would date non black people by change?
Exactly. I don’t think it has ANYTHING to do with self loathing. And he is not attacking black women in that article at all. Even if he only does date white women, he hasn’t done ANYTHING WRONG. ‘
How can you tell it’s self loathing? You always pick up on that real quick. In America you cannot separate race from interracial dating. And for a lot of black people who date white, it’s not about I just found this wonderful person who happens to be white; it’s I sought out this person because they are white. Huge difference. Here are some red flags:
1. Very good looking and dates as Van Jones would say not classically attractive white folks. Hate be shallow but if you ever see a really good looking black person with a really unattractive white person………..
2. Says things like mixed kids are so cute or references good hair.
3. Makes comments about not liking their own skin tone, looks, lips, nose, or hair
4. Allows their partner or their partners family to use racial slurs in their presence or jokes about that happening. Allows their partner to talk bad about black people in general.
5. Says they don’t see color or are colorblind.
6. Allow their (wo)man to demean them in front of others or talk crazy to them but then complains about black (wo)men
7. Instead of telling you what they like about their partner, they tell you what they don’t like about black people.
8. They’ve never dated a black person, ever. Or they dated one and decided never again because of one bad experience – these are the ones who can’t seem to help stereotyping all black people but see white people as individuals.
9. Frequent use of the word ghetto, dog whistle language, takes pride in not being like other black folks, has no problem being the token.
10. They still complain that the black girls or black boys never liked them in High School.
I could go on all day but let me stop.
P.S. They can’t name one black person that they find attractive.
Thanks for responding @Patty, You did much better than I ever could in naming some identifiers. And I just wanted to add that it’s not always self loathing, but some times it is. I don’t have the time to post the tweets that others have mined about Michael speaking sarcastically and negatively about black women and their hair and other matters but it exists. He has done nothing wrong, but at the same time no one can speak negatively about black women if they decide to cancel him.
I will add another flag – While in public with a white woman, he will constantly look around to see who is looking at him because he really just wants to be seen.
I will add another flag – While in public with a white woman, he will constantly look around to see who is looking at him because he really just wants to be seen.
Because they date the WW as a status symbol. They know they haven’t really made it made it unless they have a blonde girl on their arm. They treat her far better than they would a woman from their own ethnic group, denigrate women from their own group as ugly and unappealing.
Heck just look at kumail nanjianis “the big sick”. A movie where he subtly insults south Asian women and culture to prop up his blonde wife in the end.
It’s a phenomenon as old as time. All WOC know it.
And yet here he is playing the victim! Blaming Black women for his actions and his open behavior! I don’t want him anywhere near a Black woman. He is a piece of freaking work. Let him have what he wants. Thank u, next.
Amen
Ugh, I wish he would stop speaking for black women.
As a black woman I do not care who he or anyone else dates. Sheesh, people sure do love to speak for us, over us, about us, and behind us, huh.
If you don’t care about race when it comes to dating you would not end up statistically with many black people when the avegrage in US is about 10% and bound to be much less in Hollywood and entertainment business where he would meet people because there is less roles for black women. So it could easily appear he avoids dating black women if he just does not think skin color and just randomly dates.
Then again I don’t know how much he dates people, I have not paid attention. If he is a big ladies man and there are hundreds they would be bond to be some black women he dates.
If he likes to date white women, it is his business. He can date who he wants. There are some white women who only date black men, white men who only date black women, black women who only date white men, etc. People are entitled to date who they want to date and are attracted to.
@Bbeauty it seems you’ve missed the point like a few others here in the comments. Black women don’t care who black men date, black women have a problem with black men who demean and denigrate us just to turn around and put white women or non-black WoC on a pedestal. Date who you want but don’t put black women down in the process.
Came across something on Jamie and Katie, and there were 3.500 comments and 90% of the comments were about her backside, not big enough for their liking. and they couldn’t understand why he liked being with someone slender as opposed to being with a voluptuous black woman, until someone said if Katies bum was good enough for Tom Cruise, then it’s good enough for Jamie, it was a real eye opener, it was on # jamie foxx instagram, they resented Katie so badly.
Most of them are trolls in digital black woman face who get a kick out of pretending to be a stereotypical angry black woman who hates white women with black men.
It’s ridiculous and so many people fall for it.
I assure you, most black women are indifferent and couldn’t care less.
I’ve dated outside my race a lot, and I’ve had hate thrown at me because of it. I can see where they’re coming from tho, I’d feel the same way honestly. Men are trash. Any man who dates a woman solely based on looks is disgusting. Only once did I feel like that “trophy” and that’s exactly why I dumped him; I hope he dies cold and alone.
“I’ve dated outside my race a lot, and I’ve had hate thrown at me because of it.” I hate you. Just kidding.
This whole discussion has been fascinating and I learned from it. Thank you for your insights. Love, a white woman who didn’t have a clue before (and now has a slight inkling) about this topic.