Thomas Markle is still talking, and still grasping at whatever straws he can find. Even though his daughter played him, Thomas Markle still clearly believes that he can and should chime in about anything and everything. The Duchess of Sussex manipulated her toxic father into releasing/selling her letter to him, in which she called him out for selling her out. He should be embarrassed. He should have been proven to be an unreliable narrator of their relationship. But no, TMZ will still publish stories told from his perspective. And Thomas has some sh-t to say about George Clooney.
Thomas Markle agrees with George Clooney — the press is treating Meghan Markle like crap … but he’s pissed off at George’s comments on his relationship with his daughter. Sources close to Meghan’s father tell TMZ … he’s upset the actor chimed in over the letter the Duchess of Sussex sent him — which has now been posted by multiple media outlets.
ICYMI — George said in a recent interview he found the broadcasting of Meghan’s letter to her dad “frustrating” and “irresponsible.” We’re told Thomas took this as a dig … and thinks Clooney should “do a little research before he talks about Meghan and her father.”
To be fair, Clooney seemed to be slamming the outlets more than Meghan’s dad. He said, “I can’t tell you how frustrating that is, just seeing them broadcast a letter from a daughter to a father. She’s getting a raw deal there, and I think it’s irresponsible and I’m surprised by that.”
True enough, he doesn’t mention Thomas, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to read between the lines … Thomas set the ball in motion by releasing it. It sure seems that’s the way Thomas is reading it, and that’s why he’s ticked off at George. Our sources say, Thomas believes he’s getting a raw deal in the press … and Meghan’s friends are to blame.
Imagine for a moment the kind of mental hoops you have to jump through if you’re Thomas Markle. You clearly don’t give a sh-t about your daughter or her pregnancy. You clearly don’t give a sh-t about how difficult you’re making her life, and you clearly don’t give a sh-t about how you’re instigating all of this bad press against her. Then imagine that you see yourself as the biggest victim in all of this, and that your daughter’s closest friends are the ones “to blame” for all of this bulls–t. Anyway, George Clooney was right. His criticism was mostly about the press too, because seriously, the British papers are overeager to run ANY bad story about Meghan, so they don’t even care about Thomas proving himself to be unreliable, hypocritical, toxic and lie-filled.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I’m sure George is going to cry himself to sleep tonight knowing that Thomas Markle is ticked at him.
the other daughter is upset too. me and several others just troll her on twitter.
Keep up the good work, Mia! 👏🏻👍🏻
That’s sad. This whole saga is sad. Needs to go away. Trolls just keep it and the anger alive. Live and let live.
Thank you!
@ Becks
Just now, Trumps picture is directly above Thomas Markles picture on the Celebitchy homepage……and the though occurred to me…..which of these two turds to I detest more…… it’s a tough call tbh……
Trump. Markle is only trying to destroy the Royal Family. Trump is trying to destroy the world.
Ahhhh……I hate to admit it, but I think I hate Markle more…….I would pay an unspeakable amount of money to be able to punch him in his fat, spiteful face.
Although, there’s a good chance I’d break my wrist in the process, so probably re-think that …..
People seem more upset about Meghan defending herself than Thomas proving himself to be a liar. Clooney was absolutely right and I’m glad he did say something because everyone is calling out the bias and racism in the media, not to mention everyone is watching the British press now. Whether Meghan agreed to the people article or knew the letter would be released, it was the best thing she could do because it proved the press and her father to be liars. It also exposed many of the reporters and photographers anger towards her in regards to access. Arthur Edwards of the Sun suggested that her profile would be better if she gave access to them. He also suggested that the press could lose interest, which we all know will never happen.
I found it Hilarious he said they need the press more than RR need them. Lmao .Dude stop reporting about them then and see what happens. Matter fact I hope they ban RR but only bring select few.
Exactly. Meghan and Harry are basically the Rock Star couple of the family and she’s American, an honorary Canadian and her heritage and story are relatable to millions around the world. Harry is very popular and as we saw with the cookbook launch, it was a success with out the traditional press. It seems like the Traditional media hasn’t accepted that times have changed yet.
Hmmm, maybe traditional *tabloid* media in the UK. When I think of traditional media, I think of BBC, The Times of London, and other long standing institutions. In the US, the equivalent would be PBS, ABC, NYT, WSJ, WaPo, etc. In Canada: CBC, MacLeans, and other “Grey Ladies” of the media world.
The UK tabloids don’t like the DSoS, but I think they do in the US and Commonwealth. JM2C.
And people keep bringing up that other royals have been harassed by the tabloids and so Meghan should just deal with it which makes no sense to me. Are the tabloids a broken step in the UK where everyone hates how they behave but still get upset at people who actually want to do something about it?
No royal woman in her third trimester has ever been treated like this. That people can still keep picking at her and getting upset with her for pushing back is ridiculous. But it’s a common thing to blame the person trying to defend themselves for causing trouble and provoking their bully.
Once the baby is born, the tabloids will move on to questioning how the Sussexes parent and claiming that they are not raising their kids properly. They’re never going to let up.
And the royals do not actually never complain and never explain. They just try to not have their complaining and explaining traced back to them.
Cant they do something about that? Like to stop reporters from mentioning their child.
Also now is perfect time for Dos to send restraining order and Letter to cease and desist to her father and other sister on behalf of their son/daughter. That way they are not allowed to talk about their kid or collect coins.
There is a press commission that they can complain to but besides that, I think they would have to rely on public dissaproval.
I can already see the justifications -“The press isn’t criticizing the kids! We’re just concerned for the kids. Why do we have to walk on eggshells when discussing Meghan and Harry?” And, “Beatrice and Eugenie were also criticized. It’s normal. Why can’t Meghan and Harry stay silent and rise above?”
And when people point out that Will and Kate weren’t subjected to that, the response will be that Meghan and Harry deserve it because they’re out of control rebels going their own way while Will and Kate are so regal.
Thomas and Sam would welcome the negative attention of breaking an NDA. At this point, everyone knows Thomas cares more about his photo ops than Meghan so maybe best to leave it there.
Right. This Markle ‘family’ is toxic. It’s human nature to stay away from toxic situations and toxic people. Ergo, Meg is doing just that. So would I…so would anyone that’s a target of a smear campaign. It is so clear. This family is spiteful and jealous. They long to be included in the royal family and it will NEVER EVER happen. Vicious, nasty people. They spun their own web. I’m sorry for Meghan. I’d be so embarrassed.
Do I think she needed to poke the bear and bate him to release the letter? No, most already knew he’s garbage and those who still thought he is a victim will not be convinced otherwise no matter what.
Do I think he is the worst ever? Yes, 100% garbage. No redemption. But with his new platform, and more celebrities weighing in, he gets to keep cashing in and being garbage for money. And I don’t think prolonging this father-daughter feud for public interest helped Meghan in the end sadly. She got her words out, but you can’t convert crazy.
I see your point but the problem is that he wouldn’t stop talking and was threatening her and Harry constantly in the press. He needed to be exposed because I don’t think many will go near him now. I think the press know they got played and if they try to help him play the poor adandoned man that wants to see his Grandchild, it’ll be more pushback. The Letter and Fergie’s article kind of silenced those headlines and narratives around Meghan. The only thing the article did was upset the British establishment, who are being watched around the world right now since Clooney’s statement.
Her silence was also “poking the bear.” —Whether she speaks up or stays silent, she is in the wrong—because let’s face it, it is her existence that offends her frothing-at-the-mouth detractors!
@ Britt
Some members of the press are still shameless enough to support him, evidence be damned. Like the odious, Dead-Child-Hacker, Piers Morgan. He has no qualms whatsoever, directly contradicting his former statements and now being on the same side as a woman he once correctly called a “vulture” – which means he KNOWS how toxic and poisonous these people are – it just suits his agenda to side with them for now.
On the whole though, I think it was a bit of a master-stroke because too many people were being allowed to pretend that they didn’t know that Thomas was trash. Outing the letter just made it far, far harder (not impossible) for them.
I keep seeing comments saying “SHE MADE HIM RELEASE THE LETTER….She’s so evil”……these sorts of people will find absolutely any reason whatsoever to make her the bad guy. But the good thing is that most normal, objective people who just weren’t aware of Thomas’ antics can now also see these people for what they are.
Also, he can’t keep going to the press to demand to see her anymore – or pretend he doesn’t know what he did wrong. We’ll have to wait and see what new narrative he and his team (including Dead-Child-Hacker Piers Morgan) come up with.
@Bella DuPont, you are absolutely right, especially that it was a clever tactical move on Meghan’s part. Sure she is getting blamed for the blowback. But she was also getting blamed for coldheartedly ignoring her father. Now, not only do we have irrefutable confirmation that Thomas is untruthful and abusive, we also know that Meghan did the best she could to reach out to him—and reach him.
At this point, I think she has said and done everything she needs to where he is concerned. It is patently clear that she cannot have him in her life without causing damage to herself. Good for her for setting the record straight before the birth of her baby. Now she can ignore him and his other daughter and focus on the positive things in her life.
@Eliza……
@Brit might see your point but i dont think you made a convincing argument that she ‘poked’ the bear and bated him to release HER letter to him.
What Meghan did, was write a letter to her father asking him to stop publicly humiliating her. Full. Stop.
She did this just 3 months after her wedding at a time when she should have been enjoying her newly-married life and new husband and, as we now know, her new pregnancy.
Let us hold on to this point: SHE. SHOULD, NOT. HAVE. HAD. TO . WRITE. SUCH. A. LETTER. IN. THE. FIRST. PLACE.
In writing a letter to her father, Meghan did what every human being has a right to do: i:e have an expectation of privacy. Whether or not, knowing how toxic her father is, she expected that he would release the letter to the press, that is IMMATERIAL to Meghan’s RIGHT to do what she did.
But knowing the particular situation we’re dealing with, here’s what the letter succeeded in doing.:
First of all, we all had thought that doing the stiff-upper-lip British thing was the only response Meg and Harry had at their disposal, in response to the UNPRECEDENTED, BARRAGE of attacks that Meghan was coming under, simply for being a woman of colour. But we’ve all looked on and seen that the closer Meghan got to her due date, the more apparent it became that the two head-leeches (toxictom and #theotherdaughter) had no intention of stopping their attacks and grifting off her name. In fact, they had been gearing up to profit off an innocent infant the minute s/he came into the world. And the sh!trag press was also salivating to attack that baby for its ethnicity. We. Know. They. Were. and prolly still are planning to do so.
The sustained and escalating attacks on the DoS was sick. It was twisted. It was perverted. And the media and trolls all over the net were salivating to see how she would handle it all. Dont forget all those hypocritical ‘royal reporters’ and commentators on morning shows and in the sh!trags and blogs disparaging her integrity, her character and her filial duty which, if left to fester, would inevitably affect her job of Duchessing in that, the noise would become louder, thereby drowning out the positive effect of her patronages.
Heres where I thought a deliberate strategy on her part came into effect: she gave permission to her friends to speak on her behalf which, I strongly believe, they were all just chomping at the bit to do; and she did it knowing that the truths they told, would be confirmed by the most unlikely source: toxictom himself; because Meghan knew (and, I believe, her mom also knew) that, like the scorpion and the frog* he wouldnt be able to control himself.
*bit.ly/2SWwrTu
So now, what do we have: contrary to what youve said, Eliza, i’m beginning to see a shift in the comments even on sites that have a vested interest in trying to destroy the DoS. Ive actually seen this comment more than once: “…and to think i used to defend this man, thinking that his daughter has ghosted him….”
Also: “… i still dont like Meghan but, her family is vile…” Etc. Ive even seen some former Meghan haters on places like Yahoo, beginning to blast the sh!trags-online for being the ones to perpetrate and perpetuate the hate-on-Meghan.
So yeah, this was the best thing she could have done. And now i dont believe youll be hearing a peep out of the Duchess or her friends on this matter again.
@ Chatnuh
The scorpion and the frog……how intriguing……
People keep disingenuously arguing that she should have called, rather than written him. Bullshit. It didn’t matter what medium she used…..he was always going to betray her.
I bet she sat down and debated all the various channels of communication to him and decided that a letter would be the least damaging because she could control the tone completely before sending it out.
I bet he already had his phone lines tapped in advance, waiting for her call, so he could record and sell it off immediately at a massive profit. Plus, she would have had the least control over the phone as you can never tell what someone might say to throw you off – deliberately.
I struggle with this too but in the end poking the bear is an apt description of this mess. It must be rough for Harry and Meghan with the toxic family and media hounding them but I think the best thing is to play the long game. Try and ignore the press and convey to your well meaning friends you are ignoring it. Focus on work and family and don’t respond to toxic crazy people like the Markles. The British press are vicious and fight back like cornered rats when criticized so I’m afraid this People magazine article did more harm than good. In addition if you let bullies know they are getting to you they just get worse.
@Chatnuh, I’m nodding in agreement with everything. you. said!
The purpose of Meghan’s letter was twofold: (1) appeal to her father to stop hurting her, and (2) failing that, ensure that her side of the story would be disseminated in a way that couldn’t be altered or misconstrued.
Whether it’s due to her father’s mental health issues or simply being unable to see his daughter as anything other than an object that should be useful to him, I highly doubt Meghan had any expectation of (1) being successful. That is why she had to build (2) into her communication. Absolutely brilliant move on her part.
For the people who are slow to see how racism, misogny, and classism inform their hostility towards Meghan or that their disrespect has strayed into frightening territory, hopefully this will be a positive turning point. Anyone who, after reading her letter (that we should not even have been privy to in the first place,) still think she owes the Markles anything at all, need to take several seats beside them.
Oh, dear. The grub is out of his hole again. I wish a hawk would happen along and carry him off. Vile creature.
Hahaha! What an apt description! Love it!
White trash is gonna white trash. Sunrise, sunset.
The British press and TMZ are toxic racist hateful websites that caters to specific group of people normal human being can see that Thomas And Samantha are nothing more than grifters. They both live in their own world were they both convinced that Meghan has done something to them the sad part is no matter Meghan has her friends say the people who don’t like Meghan will continue to buy into what Thomas and Samantha are selling because it fits their narrative of Meghan . Even with the letter she prove her point that she has every right to cut off contact with her father he not to be trusted people are still saying he a loving dad . Samantha is still trying to convince people she had a relationship with Meghan even though it’s stated by Meghan and her friends they never had a relationship. The only way for this to stop is for the palace to get involved but I doubt they will
But what can the palace do without seeming heavy handed?
Two things that occurred to me:
1. I keep seeing the argument on royal dish, that her family only turned on her after she rejected them – most especially when Harry said “She now has the family she never had”
Remember, this is a clear lie. By the time harry made this statement, around Christmas, they were already engaged and both Samantha and Thomas Jnr had released all sorts of sh-t about her at that point. Samantha in fact, released her “Social climbing, pushy princess” insult almost as soon as their relationship was outed.
2. Another thing that occurred to me…..the next time someone tries to defend this family by saying that they trash her because she ghosted them……please ask this question……if your Sister/daughter/family member ghosted you and then met a prince……would YOU go to the press everyday to tear them to pieces and try to disrupt the relationship? If not, why not?
3. Also remember, we just got to know this family in the last couple of years or so, where their various aflictions have become more public. Meghan has known them (no matter how tenuously), throughout her life. So she knew what these people were before they showed themselves to us. Given what we now know, what sane person would permit these people anywhere near such a sensitive occasion as her wedding?
The whole thing is just so intellectually dishonest to pretend that this behavior is anything other than (most likely) pure racism/jealousy , because none of these people would ever tolerate being treated so horrendously by family members and still keep such people in their lives. When people spout this sh-t, make them answer the specific questions.
To your #2 point, I think most of us would have the self-awareness and introspection to observe past media frenzies (Tonya Harding – Nancy Kerrigan SkateGate as an example) and realize that the tabloid media is a beast, best left unfed.
And I would hope most of us would (a) value our own privacy enough to avoid the beast, and (b) realize that public statements have private consequences. I work in a field that includes handling sensitive documents. What client would ever trust me in the future, if I went out and spewed commentary about a relative?
In cases such as this, your words say more about your own character, than they do about the character of the person you are criticizing or praising.
But this sort of evaluation of possible consequences has never happened for Tom or Samantha. I think there is a long, long list of their other failures as parents, business people, and friends that show they never mastered this type of introspection.
If I could turn back time, I would tell them to apply the golden rule, hang a sign outside of your door, and record a VM message that says “For all media inquiries: Ms. Markle has never violated my privacy in her public comments, and I will never violate her privacy. The golden rule is truly golden.” The end.
But alas, they are White Trash. The Raglunds have been pillars of royal restraint, by comparison. I hope the Brits can see this, that each new trashy comment just makes Tom and Sam trashier.
I also feel so sorry for Samantha’s kids, and all of Tom’s grandkids (who he doesn’t have a relationship with).
“Sources close to her father” — Samantha.
Yesterday, Prince Harry was in the Arctic, Norway visiting the English troops.
In an Igloo, the troops had up wedding pictures of Harry and Meghan, romantic candles and music in the background, poor Harry was blushing.
He then asked one guys, if he sent flowers to his wife.
Is Thomas pissed at Harry, because he cut off the money flow to him. In October 2017 he was still asking for money.
Meghan’s letter confirmed that she has been financially supporting Evil Papa Smurf and that he’s been emotionally blackmailing her into it (she mentions his loyalty). I suspect once she and Harry got engaged that money stopped and that’s why he went down the route of faking those paps shot and selling stories – he’s punishing her for cutting off the cash flow. He was also expecting the RF to financially support him as well – he has actually said this – and when he realised that wasn’t going to happen he started bashing them to the press. He wants them to pay him to keep his fat gob shut and he is butt hurt they are not playing ball.
But didn’t Thomas said in one of his interviews that money wasn’t an issue as he got more than enough money? Unless he has been lying about it.
Likely to have been lying.
Well considering he went bankrupt and the reason he moved to Mexico was a cheaper lifestyle he’s cleary been lying. Its obvs that its about the money – always was. He can’t handle money, he lost much of his lottery win on bad business decisions. He clearly cannot live within his means.
He also admitted in one of his, many, interviews that he wanted to bring an entourage and asked that the RF cover their expenses. And that he expected her to financially support him cause he paid for her education. So yeah another reason why it’s about the money and his expectation that she and the RF should support him and whoever else he deems they should.
Of course he lied about it. If he admitted he was emotionally blackmailing his youngest child who is pregnant for money, that would clash with his carefully designed but easily destroyed image as a poor old lonely neglected father
I can’t believe the public still cares about this clown and what he has to say. I’m bored to death by him at this point. I think Meghan has made up her mind that her father does not love or respect her, and she is moving on with her life. As it should be.
The only people who seem to care about her father is Piers Morgan, who has an obvious agenda against Meghan and acts like a scorned lover. You can’t tell me that he didn’t catch feelings and the Meghan haters. I don’t see many defending him anymore.
They don’t give two sh-ts about him. But he’s the perfect cudgel to use against Meghan – so for now he’s the perfect scorned father and they will continue to defend him, no matter what.
I feel the same way about the bitc*y sister.
This guy is a delusional idiot. He released a letter that proves he is a POS but thinks it makes him look good! ROFL!
He needs to take up a new hobby. May I suggest wrestling pit vipers or saltwater crocodiles ?
Aren’t there any tunnels he could drive into? El Chapo left quite a few…why doesn’t EvilPapa Smurf invite Piers to go take a Sunday drive down one of them. Oh, and let’s tip off the rest of the RRs there might be a biiiiig scoop coming out of the excursion.
God, *I* am SO tired of his evil BS; I can just imagine how Meghan feels.
This man is so toxically narcissistic it’s unbelievable. I always think that he’s done his worst and then he tops it. Her sister is the same. How they can possible try to portray themselves as victims at this point is beyond me. Poor Megan.
No shame either! Unbelievable!
Both he and Samantha should seek help from mental health professionals.
Narcissistic people NEVER feel they are in the wrong. EVER.
I agree. It makes you feel crazy trying to make sense of it!
Because it’s all about THEM.
THEY are the victims ALWAYS, THEY are the one suffering, THEY THEY THEY.
“thinks Clooney should “do a little research before he talks about Meghan and her father.””
Hey Tom, this guy was at your daughter’s wedding and you weren’t. Sounds like you’re the one who needs to do some research.
Exactly!
But he did do his research – into British Castles!!!!
He sees this as the “Meghan and her Father” show. Harry and the BRF are just extras. Harry in particular is his desperate understudy who doesn’t know his place – he’s forced to cut hapless Harry off at the knees from time to time, so he eventually learns his place as subordinate to the great Thomas J. Markle.
Lol this cracked me up. He definitely has delusions of grandeur when it comes to his place in this story.
Thomas is unbelievably stupid. What a waste.
Oh, this guy!
My heart goes out to Meghan, poor woman had so much on her plate in recent months.
Quitting her job, moving to a new country, adjusting to the fish bowl existence as a very high profile member of the BRF and getting married in the public eye, the quick pregnancy, all of it being scrutinized like I’ve never seen before.
Adding to it, her outright vicious white Markle family, her crazy, bitter Samantha step sister and her own father selling her out.
Horrific, I so wish I could do something for Meghan.
She seems like a lovely person inside and out.
I wonder, if Harry could possibly leave the royal life altogether, so the racist members of the media like Pierce Morgan would leave Meghan alone and let them live their lives in peace.
It’s terrible. The press have been terrible and her family are nothing but trash. I truly believe there was some agenda against her and it took Clooney and five friends to really expose it because the press and journalists have been showing their behinds since then.
So people can compare her to Wallis Simpson more? She’ll never live outside of the public eye again.
Harry abdicating would just bring more attention and hounding without the elite security and protections that come with being a royal.
Look what happened to Diana when she left the royal family and tried to start a new life.
Clearly, Thomas Markle is a narcissist!
I feel so badly for Megan. She can’t win with him or even compromise. It will never be enough. He will always twist the narrative and want more attention, control, drama, money, pity, power, credit…
He reminds me so much of my toxic sister-in-law. She would always cancel our visits or stand us up at the last minute for some random reason, but then complain to everyone that we never saw her kids. Even though we were the ones trying to make plans and bending over backwards to accommodate them.
When my mom got cancer, my sister-in-law stopped talking to me bc I didn’t ask her (my SIL) how she was feeling about it. She never checked on my mom or offered to help, but she somehow felt like we should be worried about her (my SIL). She actually told me, “No one cares how your mom’s cancer is affecting my life! You don’t understand how hard all of this is for me.”
Seriously, Ugh.
Seeing the Markle situation played out so publicly is sadly, relatable. I realize now narcissists make up their own rules and completely believe their delusions. You try to defend yourself, but it’s never enough and it just feeds their crazy narratives. You start to question your own sanity and self-worth.
Megan should ignore it all. So painful, but necessary.
What I have always found shocking is how many people, people who should know better, swallow what is obviously a twisted, untruthful, self-serving narrative from people like your sister-in-law.
He reminds me of Gollum from LOTR, always whining about his precious, willing to lie and cheat to get what he wants. Imagine how shocked we would be if instead of selfish whining he issued a statement revealing his worry over stress inflicted on his pregnant daughter, and requesting that the press quit the attacks on her. He could have also been a protective voice shaming the press for their racism. But no, it’s all about him and how wronged he feels.
I wish that one time that someone would ask him for a tv interview, he agree to it, and then right there on camera start hammering him with actual hard hitting questions–just to see what happens. Call out his timeline of lies, point out how awful Samantha is, ask him why he feels the needs to harass and humiliate his daughter. I would LOVE to see the look on his smug face as he gets verbally punched with the truth. And if he walks out, he doesn’t get paid–or sued for breach of contract.
YES! It makes me so angry that n one takes him to task.
More questions for Thomas:
(1) Why are you so interested in this grandchild, when you don’t have a relationship with your other *five* grandchildren?
(2) Why did Samantha lose custody of her children?
(3) What do you think of the nasty names Samantha has called your daughter Meghan?
(4) How many people did you plan to bring to the wedding? (the entourage)
(5) How much money has Meghan given you over the years?
(6) How much money did you actually pay for Meghan’s tuition to Northwestern University? (see below)
FYI -Married with Children was on the air 1987-1997 and Meghan was at Northwestern Fall 1999-Spring 2003, so her financial aid application would have shown her father without a steady TV series-related union paycheck as a lighting tech / director.
He said he hadn’t heard from Meghan since before the wedding and she had actually written him a five page letter three months AFTER the wedding. He’s a pathological liar, he would just lie about all of those things.
What Meghan’s father and sister are doing to her is absolutely disgusting, and if the press had any shred of decency they would cut them off. This is appalling, stop enabling toxic people!!!
Meghan had no choice but to expose his lies. I hope she can now start enjoying what should be th happiest time in her life with a new loving husband and baby on th way. I wish u all th best Meghan n Harry xx
It’s one week later for Letter-gate and I am enjoying seeing the Markles and the RRs spiral out of control trying to sell their sides. That unholy alliance know they are losing in the court of public opinion. Dad and the Fail have yet to publish the rest of Meghan’s letter under threat of court action from KP. The RRs are ketvching out of fear of losing power and influence.
“The press is treating Meghan like garbage, so I’m going to continue to give them more ammunition with which they can do exactly that!”
Jesus Christ. He can’t be that stupid, he simply can’t.
All this ahole cares about is getting more attention, which is the ONLY reason he went after Clooney. Full stop. I guess it worked, since here are people talking about him!!
Remember early on when a lot of people felt like he was just a bumbling fool who stumbled into his mistakes? Lol.
This guy is so insanely toxic. He could have actually gotten away with a lot of his early behavior, staging photos, lying about it, backing out of the wedding with fake heart attacks, etc. He just couldn’t help himself.
He has laid bare exactly who he is now, and the only ones who don’t see it, don’t want to see it.
Here’s MY what they call 2c. I haven’t read all the posts above.
The guy in Mexico is the father. She wouldn’t be around if it wasn’t for him (and for the mother, of course). Things have been wrong from the beginning. Ginger, the dimwit, hasn’t been exactly acting properly. Not only did he chose wrong, in my opinion, he also didn’t do the right things, like going to meet his father-in-law. Anyway, that’s all in the past.
The press in the UK cover the RF as usual, and there’s nothing much the ‘firm’ can do, After all, they do depend on the taxpayers. Either live with it, or give it up, meaning abolish themselves. At the end of the day, all monarchies are coming to an end. It’s just a matter of time.
Many countries have cancelled their RFs. The UK is just behind, because there are still many (the majority?) who would sleep in the street to make sure they have the perfect place from where to wave at people – just other people (!!!) – on a balcony, the next day. Weird!
Yes, I’m pro republic!
Woah. That’s all I gotta say.
Just because the tax payers pay for the RF doesn’t mean they own them body and soul. No more than a father “owns” his daughter because he paid her tuition.
If you don’t wish to support the RF then fight for reform. I doubt the RF would starve without tax payer dollars. Harry I’m sure would be ecstatic if he wasn’t forced into a role he was born into and did not choose.
Miriam, I would say nothing and nobody can stop Ginger from leaving IF he wants to – after all he is not the future Prince of Wales (crown prince), and William and Catherine have 3 children – but where can he go and what can he do?
He is enjoying the privileges of ‘royal’ life. In return, it’s normal for the people to expect him to behave. I found it idiotic that he demands this and that from the media, who ARE taxpayers!
Do I think the father has done everything right? I don’t know because I haven’t read everything. I will say that we can marry more than once, so have several husbands, but we only have ONE dad!!
Malak, Harry has enough inherited money that was not paid for by the tax payers to live in reasonable comfort. He cannot leave the goldfish bowl because the press, the one that we all famously know pays taxes, would continue to hound him….to make the income …from which they pay taxes. Ginger never had a chance. From the day he was born he had a camera taped to his behind and will to the day he dies. It’s a steep price to pay. How does that 10p out of your weekly check entitle anyone to hurl racist abuse at a woman they don’t actually know at all?
Now coming to fathers, the only thing that all fathers have in common is that they had unprotected s3x with the mother. Everything else is optional. You haven’t read much about Tommy but to bring you up to speed, the only real claim to fatherhood in his case is that he didn’t use a condom back in 1980. I doubt whether that was a great hardship on his part.
“I will say that we can marry more than once, so have several husbands, but we only have ONE dad!!”
So by the luck of a draw, that dear old dad happens to create you when he’s on top of your mother, you owe him the rest of your natural freaking life? No matter how abusive he was/is to you?!! That by his actions didn’t give a shit toward you? Right. I would love to see some evidence of those who would continue to let it happen time after time. Basic human rights would not allow that and survival instincts won’t either.
@Miriam
I know Ginger has inherited money, but he also needs something to do IF he can’t stand it anymore and decides to leave.
Then it will be like his grandmother’s uncle David and Wallis. No wonder they call them Ginger and Wallis II! I think it was arrogant AND dumb of him to say whatever she wants she gets. He soon found out he was wrong.
My husband is a Brit (I have the passport – dual citizenship). He left many years ago, but we do visit and I like to spend a lot of time in the West End.
He thinks RFs are for females, you know, weddings, clothes… The Republican movement will tell you just how much some members of ‘the firm’ cost/make!! I’ll check if I’ve kept that email.
As for people making r****t remarks, the world is changing, but it’s a slow process. I’d have thought Ginger knew it. He isn’t called dimwit for nothing.
??? If you’re saying her parents were not married, I didn’t know that. Well, he is still her dad. I also think she should follow the rules of ‘the ‘firm’ instead of trying to make changes overnight. Come on. I don’t know what will take longer, changing the RF or stopping r****m.
Meghan’s parents were married in 1979; she was born in 1981. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doria_Ragland
Thank you, Olenna.
I skipped that wedding, but I saw bits on the news. I couldn’t believe seeing the mother sitting there all alone. If she didn’t want family from her father’s side, are there no aunties/uncles/nieces/nephews from her mother’s side? There was room.
Ginger’s in-laws are a bit strange. Some posters call them ‘hillbillies.’ Apparently, it’s from a TV show (I haven’t seen).
I think he (Ginger) would be happy in the US. He can take his clothes off again. People wouldn’t mind. LOL
IF he decides to leave, they can be like the Duke of Windsor and Wallis I – travel, travel, travel… Maybe he’ll just stay home and be a celebrity with celebrity friends.
I don’t know you but I respect the Pro Republic stuff. I do have say something about how Harry didn’t visit Thomas.
Know the toxic trash that Thomas Markle is, there is NO WAY I would send Prince Fricking Harry anywhere near this POS if I were Meghan. I know- I was in the same situation. I loved my (future) husband too much to expose him to my toxic mother. I kept them apart as long as I could. And I wholeheartedly respect anyone who protects the ones they love from abusive narcissists, parents or not.
Well, I do remember reading that the late King Farouk of Egypt once predicted that monarchies will go. He said one day there will be 5 kings left, the kings of Spades, Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs, and the king of England. In other words, the British king will be the last to go.
The British Republican Movement has a lot of work to do.
You should be thanking whatever deity you believe in that you don’t have to deal with a narcissistic or toxic parent. Trust me you would be cutting them out of your life too.
Your inability to have a firm opinion about Thomas while having such a strong opinion about Harry to the point of questioning his choice of wife is bizarre. What is your 2c even based on if you keep repeating how you don’t actually know what’s been reported?
But it does stand out that you keep backing away from saying anything negative about Thomas. How can you possibly have an opinion on what one party should have done if you refuse to give an opinion on the other party’s behavior?
And no one is obligated to keep an abuser in their life. I wouldn’t ask you to do it and you shouldn’t expect anyone else to do it either.
Malak; your rhythm and wording of speech reminds me of scamo markle…
The first thing that I will say is that I agree with Meghan’s strategy and I support her actions.
Having said that, here’s why this happened.
Thomas and Meghan have probably had a strained relationship for years with limited personal contact–hence the lack of recent pictures. Despite this she was dutiful and did support him financially.
I suspect he very much wanted her to marry Harry and he saw this as a ticket to fame and fortune. This is why he was on best behavior until the invitations went out. Also, when he was let in on the secret he probably made more requests for money to maintain his silence (she reveals this in her letter).
As an individual Thomas is quite simple; he is motivated by money and attention, he also probably has some mental health issues, hence the extreme dysfunction of his children. As we could see, every month or so since the marriage he would give an interview and would get paid for either the interview itself or some photos or correspondence from Meghan that he would copyright.
After she got pregnant she was wise enough to look forward and foresee how not only Thomas but also Samantha and Thomas Jr would exploit her pregnancy and eventual childbirth for attention and payoffs. She had 3 choices to avoid this. 1) Send this letter and maybe convince Thomas to shape up (but she knew him well enough to know this plea would fail) while at the same time detailing her side of the story and how betrayed she was by Thomas and Samantha in anticipation of the letter’s eventual release. 2) Issue a press statement outlining her side of the story. 3) Giving an interview (probably with Oprah) to tell her side of the story. 2 and 3 are really against the royal family’s MO so 1 was the best option.
However, Thomas (by all accounts a very intelligent man–he won Emmys) hid the fact that he received a letter and continued to sell her out while making subtle and explicit digs at her and Harry in the media. She knew this would only get exponentially worse when she gave birth; with scenarios such as him showing up at her doorstop, giving numerous interviews and probably publishing a book. Samantha was gearing up her circus as well in anticipation of baby Sussex’s birth.
Meghan was probably getting to the point where she would have given an interview about her family when she decided to make a play (through the People story) to reveal that she had sent a letter with the calculation that the rabid British tabloids would make Thomas an offer he could not refuse to get their hands on the letter. She was right, the letter was revealed to the world and it proved that Thomas was manipulative and dishonest and would not hesitate to sell out his pregnant daughter.
When baby Sussex is born the British press will now find it very difficult to parade Thomas and Samantha before the world to drum up criticism against Meghan and Harry for freezing them out. Her letter has neutered their credibility and she can justifiably avoid contact with the Markles.
As a final stroke of luck, having Clooney speak out has shaken the British press. Say what they will, his words were broadcast around the world and the global view of the British press is shifting for the worse. If they try to brazen out a Thomas Markle pity party when baby Sussex is born the global condemnation will be swift, mostly through social media but also from American and other global press organizations.
Wow, what a long post, Lurker. I’ll just deal with the last paragraph.
Maybe thin-lipped Clooney drank too much tequila and now wishes he hasn’t said anything. I wonder if she was his ‘friend’ before Ginger.
What global condemnation are you talking about??
The important members of the British RF are E II, Charles, William and then George. The others are minor. That ‘firm’ is way too big.
People were sad to read about the 2-year old in Spain who fell in a well and couldn’t be saved, and people, especially soccer fans were sad when Emiliano Sala disappeared in the Channel on his way to Cardiff.
The world, and I mean THE WORLD, has better things to do than worrying about somebody in a far away country who had a baby (everybody has babies) and is arguing with her father.
I must say William is lucky with his in-law family. It’s been almost 8 years.
It’s pretty sad that Meghan’s own father is selling her out to the media.
My best friend didn’t invite her father to her wedding last year, because he was a violent drunk all her life and their relationship was mostly her trying very
hard to repair it over the years without nearly no effort at all from him.
She is very kind hearted, even though he left
her and her mom when she was 4 for a party
he never came home back from.
Her stepfather behaves like her biological father should and has stepped up for her.
I don’t know what happened in Meghan’s family, but something must have been wrong enough that Doria divorced Thomas Markle when Meghan was a little kid and seems to me that the relationship between Thomas and Meghan was at best problematic, at best.
I’m not going to even go into the horrid human being Samantha, but she is a good example of how some people have no shame, decency or character.
I would cut Thomas, Samantha and the rest of them out of my life completely, if I’m Meghan, because there is no point in trying with people like that – they will never change.
Thomas Markle=shitgibbon Samantha Marke=shitgibbon
I’d imagine that as far as Thomas Merkle is concerned, his daughter landed the jackpot to end all jackpots and now she’s not sharing. If a daughter of mine, after coming into the most incredible riches, refused to redistribute some of her new wealth my way, I’d also complain bitterly. But hey, children have no responsibility towards those who brought them into the world anymore, at least in the capitalist world 🙂
If you are serious, I say to you ‘You want money? Then get a f***ing job, you leech.’
Lard-bottom Daddy has a monthly income of over $4,000. That’s something over $50,000 a year.
Now that’s only the amount he declared to the US government when he filed for bankruptcy. He probably has an undeclared income well over that. But, for the sake of argument, let’s leave his income at $50,000/year.
On 1 February 2019 the Department of HHS Poverty guideline declared the poverty level for a single individual living alone to be $12,490 a year. There is no reason why a retired man can’t live very comfortably on $50,000 a year. Markle, who lives in Mexico where the CoL is a fraction of the US CoL, should be able to live a pretty sumptuous life on that amount. Instead, he disingenuously pleads poverty and resorts to begging.
Adult children have no obligation to give in to the demands of selfish parents who expect their adult children to support their whims and extravagances. To be specific, Meghan has no responsibility to support her father’s booze, drug, and gambling habit. If he wants to give thousands of dollars to his 38-year-old meth addict girlfriend, he’s free to do so. However, he has no right to demand that Meghan subsidise this woman.
Even worse is the parent who accepts financial assistance from an adult child only to complain to anyone who will listen that his children have never given him any money at all. It’s the ultimate old folks’ pity party, and it works a charm amongst the greedy and their gullible friends.
Finally, Meghan has not come into money. It’s Harry’s money. And it’s Charles’ money. Meghan’s money consists of whatever funds she brought into the marriage.
No in the letter she mentions helping him. So she has, just not enough for his geedy ass.
“Whatever privacy concessions Meghan Markle was willing (however inexplicably) to make in exchange for royal privileges, she could not, reasonably, have anticipated these sustained personal attacks, for which the sole justification is – ludicrously – that they originate in a man who should ideally be rewarded with a restraining order. Would any of this, it is increasingly asked, given the indulgence extended to most royal hangers-on, have happened if Meghan were not, to use her term, biracial?
Plainly, this affluent couple have choices and an exit from royal life could liberate them, at once, from vindictive relations and their press facilitators, to say nothing of their current destiny as lifetime specimens for bodily and other analysis. Plus we’d finally find out if anything would make the Markle’s happy.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/16/tormenting-meghan-markle-has-become-a-national-sport-that-shames-us
This is an exert from the guardian. I share the author Catherine Bennet view, Markle should be served with a restraining order: why should the victim have to be circumspect to the bully?