Here are more photos of Prince William on Friday, attending Hugh Grosvenor’s wedding to Olivia Henson. All of William’s leaking and briefing about Hugh’s wedding, and all he got was a shuttle ride, a position as an usher and no date. I wonder if Hugh even specified that William could not bring a plus-one. After the wedding service, William was seen hanging out with long-time friends like Rosie van Cutsem and that dark-haired guy, who is probably Rosie’s husband William van Cutsem.
William obviously didn’t come to the wedding with Kate, and it looks like he didn’t bring Prince George either. There were no photos of George, although there was some pre-wedding buzz that George would be one of the page boys, especially given that Hugh is George’s godfather. People Mag says George wasn’t there, likely because it was a school day. Apparently, someone in the crowd shouted “best wishes to Kate” as William exited the cathedral. He apparently “gave a nod and waved” in response. It’s bizarre that he seems so grumpy whenever anyone reminds him that his wife is supposed to be ill.
I posted the TikTok, below, on my Twitter because I think this lady raised an interesting point: where were the Middletons? All of the wisteria-sistering, all of that social climbing, and none of the Middletons were invited to the social event of the season? I have the feeling that Carole Middleton’s social climbing/hustler days are over, now that she’s been so thoroughly exposed as a rampant fraud. But what about Pippa and Terribly Moderately Wealthy James Matthews? What about James Middleton? Why weren’t they invited?
It's one thing to say Kate Middleton is sick and can't attend the wedding of the Duke of Westminister, but isn't Pippa Middleton a society girl now. Why were the Middletons not invited to Hugh Grosvenor's wedding? pic.twitter.com/SrjLlQ8o4G
— Carmen's Granddaughter (@CarmenGranddau1) June 7, 2024
Photos courtesy of Cover Images.
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- The Wedding of Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke Of Westminster and Olivia Henson at Chester Cathedral Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- The Wedding of Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke Of Westminster and Olivia Henson at Chester Cathedral Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- The Prince of Wales (centre) leaves Chester Cathedral after the wedding of Olivia Henson and Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster Featuring: William Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales (centre left) leaves Chester Cathedral after the wedding of Olivia Henson and Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster Featuring: William Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales (centre left) leaves Chester Cathedral after the wedding of Olivia Henson and Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster Featuring: William Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales (centre left) leaves Chester Cathedral after the wedding of Olivia Henson and Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster Featuring: William Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Wedding of Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke Of Westminster and Olivia Henson at Chester Cathedral Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- The Wedding of Hugh Grosvenor, the Duke Of Westminster and Olivia Henson at Chester Cathedral Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: Chester, United Kingdom When: 07 Jun 2024 Credit: Cover Images
It was a Middleton free wedding? Wow. But then this is an aristocratic wedding and the aristos have never warmed to the Middleton pushiness.
Agreed – but the Middletons usually attend most society weddings. This is the family that will happily attend the opening of a paper bag.
The idea of the future Queen’s family not being in attendance is suspect as Carmen’s Granddaughter states.
It is not appropriate to call her future Queen. She is already phased out and her princess title is not permanent. Hope this year some how William will bring his new fiancee to the RR.
@Honeybee – wow, all that in only 6 more months? And who is William’s new fiancée ?
I just put it down to new money. The real aristos don’t like it. William will have to wait a year before getting engaged.
It’s possible the Midds don’t know Hugh, or it’s possible they are laying low to avoid questions about Kate.
@Honeybee Actually her Princess title is secure. Diana got to keep hers after the divorce. And Kate has earned it by putting up with PW for so many years.
“But what about Pippa and Terribly Moderately Wealthy James Matthews? What about James Middleton? Why weren’t they invited?”
Because the Middletons are not friends with either the bride or groom and/or bride’s or groom’s family??????????
FYI: I do not think Rose Hanbury Cholmondeley was there either.
400 guests? I doubt many of them are friends with them or their parents.
This was the richest man in England’s wedding, a big deal old-title aristo wedding, the kind you’d invite the future king & his wife & their family to; there’s definitely more than just friends there.
400 guest at the wedding or 400 guest at the reception???
@baytampabay the mids aren’t friends with George’s godfather who William has known for decades and has been briefing the press that he’s SO close to that he got a role in the wedding???
I have a feeling Rose Hanbury may have purposely declined for the simple fact William was going to be there. And it would have turned out to be a huge story.
In the past, Kate would attend without William with Harry to weddings. And Kate pulled out of a wedding and William showed up with Pippa. One of the weddings he attended without Kate and with Pippa was Bear Macleans wedding.
And I highly doubt Rose Hanbury would want to show up when William would be there without his alledged sick wife which would have turned into a huge story.
Just proves that the Middletons are not liked by the aristocracy.
Yep, whatever happened, the Middletons are Antarctica now.
I don’t think Rose avoiding it is significant because with the current intense press speculation she wouldn’t want to attend such a high profile event knowing William would be there without his wife. And despite her marriage I don’t see Rose as a social climber, she and her husband are already on the top of the aristocracy and don’t have anything to prove, they attend events that his position mandates, but they’re not “opening of an envelope” people like the Mids.
I recall there being talk that most aristo girls were not interested in marrying into the RF. They treat their significant others terribly and there’s too much pressure and backstabbing. Most want a marriage like Rose, influential and wealthy without the spotlight on royal brides. I often think Kate regrets going for William, she’d be happier if she married someone rich and powerful without requiring public appearances and work. Nobody tracks how much work Rose does.
Maybe more a sign that the Mids are out with PW than any indication of feelings of any kind from the bride and groom.
That’s why I think they’re using Kate’s illness to cover up a divorce. Like the tik toker said, all that scheming Carole did for what? For a her daughter to be tossed aside after they were done with her womb. On a lighter note, “they rolled out the plywood” had me rolling.
@proud mary
Even if they divorce, Kate would still be a catch among rich people. She is the mother of the future king. That’s what makes this thing sound so sinister. The only person who would get PR hit would be William. So… I doubt he’s pushing for divorce. And the fact that a woman is missing, that just rubs me the wrong way.
@Mila: Among rich people yes, but not among rich POSH (= UK aristocratic) people, which is what the Middletons prefer. Not even among poor posh people, which they would probably settle for. Otherwise, Kate would have married a rich person and not chased after and clung on to William, despite everything.
@magdalena
That’s true.
I give up. These people make no sense. They are so messy.
If there is a divorce, Kate might still be a catch but I don’t see her getting married again. She would lose her title. Not happening.
But not only that Magdelina, no rich man, posh or not, is going to make Kate Queen Consort, which comes along with unlimited access to the Crown jewels and riding around in golden carriages. Kate and her mother moved heaven and earth for that privilege. Moreover, look at what happened to Diana after divorce from the heir? Her title and her security were removed.
Perhaps most important, I just don’t think that this current heir will allow his ex-wife to commandeer the spotlight in the way that his mother did. Diana did at least have some relationship with some members of the media, AND that was pre-royal rota. Now, William, even more so than Charles, has a bigger grip over the media. In sum, life post-divorce is far more grim for Kate then it was for Diana. And I don’t have to remind you of what became of Di.
The plywood is never going to stop being funny. It looks like what my brothers concocted, to prove their pinewood derby cars were amazing, for Boy Scouts in the 80s.
I saw this tiktok and was like yeah? Where are they? Kate/Kate’s family are not there for the same reason Harry’s not there: it’s all about Willie Huevo relationship. He hates that we ask them about kate because… he loves her so much… ya right. Why is william so into this wedding and so eager to be the usher? the bride and groom only met 2 years ago, I thought that was too fast, he doesnt know her well enough, she’s gonna gold digger him, take advantage, climb position, etc etc?
William and Kate dated for 10 years and it hasn’t worked out too well.
The derangers say William chose well. It’s like a cliche now. Other women turned him down and Kate stayed on as the available prospect as bride.
Someone here mentioned that the groom’s prior girlfriend, Harriet, was his “Kate”. She was his high school sweetheart, a local “commoner” and they dated on and off for over 10 years. After all that, he gets engaged to and married someone else pretty quickly.
Tatler had an interesting article about him when he inherited the title in 2017 (as an aside, Eaton hall is a relatively recent build and was HIDEOUS before a renovation). https://www.tatler.com/article/hugh-grosvenor-wealth
Of course, the Fail had a catty article about Harriet around the same time with all the salacious photos. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4347328/amp/How-DID-daughter-curtainmaker-bag-9bn-aristocrat.html
This all reminds me SO MUCH of the coverage of Kate before her great embiggening at the expense of Meghan. I have to think if Kate could have in any way come to this wedding to stake her claim and her place as POW, she would have. William has to be thinking about how even through he married and had a family with his Kate, maybe he should follow in the footsteps of his buddy Hughie and move on to the next relationship with an employed, aristocratic businesswoman.
“(M)ove on to the next relationship with an employed, aristocratic businesswoman.”. Harriet has an undergraduate and graduate degree, and she always worked. The similarity with Kate here is that Harriet is a commoner whose father was in the trades (gauchely selling curtains!)..
I know almost all the guest outfits are horrible but I think they’re horrible on purpose, it seems most aristos don’t particularly care about their clothing, they’re not scared of wrinkles/ loose fitting clothes / ugly patterns/ ugly shoes etc because they feel like they have nothing to prove to anyone, I think that’s what made Kate seem so phony and try hard and why she’s unable to make friends and only hangs on to William’s friends , she cosplays TV and movie shows portraying the aristo set and not the actual aristos
I don’t hate the yellow dress? Something must be wrong with me lol.
I have only hated about half the dresses at the wedding but it does strike me that not a one of them wore something that could be considered sexy in any way.
Bad manners to outshine the bride. See: Liz Hurley in safety pin dress.
Hurley wore that racy Versace dress to the UK premiere of Four Weddings & a Funeral. I don’t recall Hugh Grant stating he felt upstaged by his girlfriend on the red carpet. It certainly did establish them as the hot couple of the 90s.
I’ve been disappointed by most of the dresses but love the yellow one.
@Dilettante — Hurley wore it to the premiere of Four Weddings and a Funeral, not a wedding. Big difference.
Bright colors seemed to be a trend. The yellow dress wasn’t the worst of the bunch. Here’s a non-tabloid link for a bunch of wedding guest pics. Says Manchester evening news so I hope it’s not a tabloid link anyways.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/gallery/fabulous-fashions-society-wedding-year-29314271
@Jais: yikes!
@Jais – My eyes!!!! My eyes!!!! Gaaahhhhh!!
Right??? I’m aghast. Apparently aristo fashion is atrocious😳
LMAO ya’ll the Versace safety pin dress??
I just meant I haven’t seen the slightest hint of tightness, cleavage, anything you might see a bit of at an American wedding. Every last dress is loose and full coverage and not particularly elegant. Obviously no one is going to wear a freakum dress lol!!!
Seems I got the premiere for a movie about weddings confused with a real wedding. Oops🤷♀️
Still, giving the guests the benefit of the doubt that they’re trying not to compete with the bride….
I didnt hate the yellow dress either. It’s growing on me. The hat is horrible. It’s like she forgot to get a hat and on her way out, remembered she needed a hat, so she grabbed a wok off the counter and stuck it on her head figuring that would do.
I find the dress offensive. It’s Asian cosplay with the Chinese conical hat that peasants wore in rice field and a kimono style dress.
Especially awful because people are so ignorant about what happened in WWII between the Chinese and Japanese and they think Chinese/Japanese is the same. All they know is stereotypes and think it’s cute to put chopsticks in their hair.
Can confirm… went to high school with mostly old money kids and they dressed like crap most of the time. Designer stuff is honestly very often ugly too
They may not have anything to prove to each other, but the whole rest of the world side-eyes these tasteless, pointless, unearned-generational-wealth hoarders who somehow truly seem to believe that by merely being born, they are entitled to an outsize respect, say in the government, and anything else they want (including their weird fashion sense and other absurd social rules).
I think they genuinely don’t understand how much Marie-Antoinette they give, and how much the rest of the world DNGAF about their weird little social rules and “gotchas.”
Ok I can get they dont give a F about how they dress – but that plywood. As a workaround you can put some of the cheapest carpet on top of it and it would still look better on photos. Sorry but I don’t think these aristos are as rich as they want the world to think. It’s a new world and they’re not the Rich kids on the block these days- there’s a bee word for them similar to Europoors.
The Middletons weren’t there because the real aristo’s that actually have money probably cannot stand them. I’m surprised that george wasn’t there. It seems like the children really do have disappeared along side kate. At this point i am wondering if the kids will even make it to trooping
George was doing exams so is Charlotte according to something I read. Can’t recall the source so don’t quote me. If it is the DE or the DM they might have just made an excuse for their not going.
School term is over so not sure what exams George is doing?
William is able to bring George to games where he can watch him. George at the wedding may have been asked questions
@flower, School term is not over in the UK for another 5-6 weeks, depending on the school!
George is 10 so would have done SATS (not the US exam but one for English 10 year olds), but they were in May. It was a school day, George is in Lambrook summer term which started on 3 June and ends on 6 July.
George’s school term began on 3 June and ends on 6 July. This is verifiable on Lambrook’s website.
Thanks Innie.
Exams are irrelevant for George. He could be dumb as a stump and he is going to whatever school he wants. They aren’t regular kids who have to earn their way in life. Plus an exam on a Friday is unlikely.
At a D-Day event, William said that Charlotte had exams so perhaps that’s where it came from. I don’t know anything about posh British boarding schools, but in the States it’s not unusual to have exams some time before the end of the year.
If he was lying, that’s a bold lie and one he could easily get caught in so I tend to believe it.
Another LIE William just told. I saw the video and it’s on the DM. He was asked by a child “where is charlotte” and he said she is taking exams or something to that effect. What exams could they possibly be taking when they literally just started back the term on June 3rd. You would hardly even have a test a few days after starting back much less exams.
You know, I believe that most of these aristos don’t actually have that much money, they are land/art rich but cash poor as those estates are very expensive to run and don’t always generate enough income.
The disappearance of the kids is interesting though, I think that WandK don’t want them to be in any situation where they might actually spill the beans on what’s really going on with their parents.
Louie would spill all the tea. Probably wouldn’t have to ask him, he’d volunteer the information.
I wonder if what they fear is not as much what the kids would say but what others might reveal. Not at this wedding so much. But locked down in general so they can’t hear how seriously ill their mother actually is.
Similarly, I think the RR has unhappily agreed not to spill the beans — just this once doing the right thing— for the sake of the kids. Because the truth is so dire. It would be indefensible.
Harla Brazen, I agree with you the aristos may have some land left and a title but not much cash. Especially if you are not the first male – the women get nothing so if they don’t marry a first poor peer they need to hunt for wealth.
I didn’t see any kids there. It was the media that said he might bring George, I don’t know why you’d bring a kid to a wedding unless it was super child friendly.
It’s definitely odd that they weren’t there. They manage to get invites to everything and not the “social event of the year”? It’s definitely interesting.
Williams outfit looks wrinkled. It’s better he did not bring George. No mention of Charlotte or Louis
Were there any other kids there? I don’t know why you’d bring a kid if it wasn’t a ‘kid friendly’ wedding.
This is an English wedding, where kids are part of the wedding party, as flower girls & attendants.
His trousers are TOO short. There is no break at the ankle. And the 3″ visible hem looks odd and cheap. Perhaps invest in some new pants?
The Middletons are new money.
More like… the Middletons are no money?
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This last year should be an eye opener for the Middletons. They’re not accepted by the aristos and they, including Kate, should stop trying to gain their acceptance. Kate’s snobbishness and racism blinded her to fact that she had a natural ally in Meghan.
Not now, not with the racism. Especially with the questions about H and M’s baby.
It’s always the people who don’t really belong who are the most snobby, racist, etc. Kate really thought she was The Queen.
Sometimes I wonder if Meghan’s opinion of Kate changed after the Oprah interview, during which she seemed to feel bad for Kate. Post interview, we had Kate charging at Meghan, Kate crying about the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life was walk next to Meghan (at her husbands grandmothers funeral). Kate really showed herself after the interview, plus all of the Middleton planted stories: “Harry needs to come home to his one true love Kate”
So when people say “ Meghan said Kate was a good person” I always want to ask, “Would she say that today?”
Good question @withtheamerican. Over anything, I’d imagine Meghan is just really happy to be far away from that mess and recognizes it’s best to pay as little attention as possible. But the funeral seems like it was an eye opener. The cruelty was the point. I’m sure she wishes people health and healing. Sorrows and prayers. And honestly, their actions show whether they’re good people or not. Kate’s actions at the funeral and all the other times speak for themselves.
When I first heard it without the names, I thought Kate, showing signs of insecurity.
Meghan knew she could not say Kate was a raging insecure bitch who remained silent when the media attacked her so much she was suicidal. So we really should not put that much weight on those words outside of them being self preservation because Meghan was already risking a lot by pointing out that the white princess was horrible to Meghan during Meghan’s own wedding planning.
Maybe in the minority, but I don’t think it’s weird that William went solo. My guess is that the 100s-strong guest list was whittled down as much as possible, and the bride and groom chose not to invite guests based on social status (though obviously this is a thing here!) as much as they chose people close to them. I think, with all that’s happening, it’s actually good that George was not in the spotlight, and if any Middletons were close, they’d have been there. If William had a “plus one,” other than K, there is no way on earth that they would allow this person to be photographed anywhere near him at this time! If he had one, that person attended the reception.
But kind of weird when his cousin Eugenie went solo also instead of with PW. Especially when PW is trying to put out so much PR about being close with cousins.
I don’t understand why y’all are saying that he could have had a plus one. In the US at least, I think it would be considered extremely inappropriate for a married man to bring anyone other than his wife (and children if they were invited) to a wedding. Even a male friend. His invitation wouldn’t have said “William and Guest” it would have said “William and Catherine”
I don’t think anyone was expecting him to bring Rose, Daisy, Poppy, Ivy, Holly or Iris to the wedding as a plus one to be seen walking arm and arm with her but most expected that maybe George would at least be there as a pageboy. I think if he did bring one of his flowers to the wedding he would have met her there inside the church and the reception unbeknownst to the public. I think it is well known and accepted behavior in his circle of friends and of course kept from public view. It also wouldn’t be considered inappropriate if he were to take a male friend to the wedding as a plus one, especially if he spoke with them prior to the wedding. Weddings are planned based on the number of guests and it is almost inappropriate to arrive as one when it was expected to be two people. Considering his wife’s illness I think it would have been understandable if he took someone in her place as long as it was discussed previously.
certainly William, Charles and Camilla are not restrained by the quaint idea of manners.
Maybe among the true aristocrats it matters more, but even here King Charles and Cams snubbed a large amount of them at THEIR coronation. The House of Parker Bowles doesn’t care for manners.
The rules of etiquette be damned, William will do whatever he pleases. He always has. If he wanted to bring anyone else, he would have and maybe he did to the reception. And so has his father. After all, that’s why they weren’t there because Cam is still grudging about being told she’d be sat away from Charles years ago before they were married.
Rose, Daisy, Poppy, Holly or Iris😂
Kate really needs to do some work before attending a fun event. Going to the wedding would have looked bad as she has done nothing for 6 months.
@Nerd: what about our Violet? The one with room for a pony?
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@NERD
Thank you, I didn’t think about the numbers game. I live in the Southern US and it’s done differently, at least in my wedding-going experience.
In the past, when Kate didn’t attend a wedding he would take Pippa.
Why can’t his clothes ever fit? Why is he always so irascible?!
No one wants to be his date. He’s an angry abusive pos & they all know it. He’s only invited because they have to.
He’s socially awkward & says ridiculous offensive things & is sour. Always sour.
His clothes never fit properly because he is lazy in all things and has such terrible posture and he always has his hands crossed over his crotch. This morning suit was probably custom made. If he stood up straight with his shoulders back, as he probably did when measured for this suit, it would look much better.
He may be lazy, but he also has a valet. I don’t know what his excuse is either.
He looks bad in clothes because he looks bad in life. He has horrid posture and his go to pose of clasping his hands in front of his 🌭 is an off-putting stance. His clothes, other than the exceptionally odd choices (which there have been plenty), would look fine on someone with good posture that doesn’t seem to live life anticipating a low blow. He is leaning into the aristocratic stance that he is too important and wealthy to care about his appearance.
I’m paying for being anti-monarchy. The algorithm thinks I’m interested in royals and aristocrats. So I’ve been getting stories about this gosh darned wedding on my news feed all weekend. 🫣
Have any of them pointed out that William’s “fig leaf” has turned into a situation where you can see white knuckles on his fingers? He’s supposed to be easily chatting to a lifelong friend, right? Sure, sure, this is a hometown small wedding, no one is completely losing their shit.
And what’s happening with his nails???
I can’t imagine why anyone would think they’d invite the Middletons. In all the reporting about this wedding, has there been any mention that the Grosvenors are friendly with them?
The Middletons manage to get invited to everything. They went to that wedding in Jordan last year. I know they lived there when Kate was a kid but I doubt they were close to the Jordan royal family back then. If this was a big social event the Middelton’s would have managed to get an invite.
Perhaps the Jordan aristocracy doesn’t understand the ways of the British aristocracy, The Middletons are nobodies in Britain. Even though their daughter is the next Queen of the UK if she survives long enough.
@Ginger, Kate was at that Jordan wedding too. She is nowhere now, so why would they invite her family?
Pa Middleton was a flight scheduler or similar for British Airways. Middle management at most. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but this fantasy spun by the BM that their time in Jordan means that have connections to the Jordanian royals is complete BS.
But it was a royal wedding, not a society wedding, and those are more political with the guest list. I don’t think the Middletons attended the actual wedding, which was relatively small. I think they were invited to the reception after, which had almost 2,000 guests. From what I remember, W&K were guests of honor at the reception, so maybe the Middletons were invited to honor Kate or at her request?
The Middletons don’t have any social capital of their own. Maybe if William had supported them through Carole’s financial problems, there would be a sense that they have the PoW’s favor. But otherwise, why waste invitations on them?
With William openly despising Kate in public at that wedding, it seems like Carole, Pippa and James Matthews were brought in to handle Kate and for people to deal with her once William didn’t have to.
Just bringing in Carole would have looked obvious so Pippa and James were brought in to pretend there was some other reason. And since they weren’t visible except for that one picture where Carole made herself seen, it is more than likely that William pulled a few strings to get them the invite. Mike Middleton wasn’t even there so the whole living in Jordan thing centres on him and he would have attended if that was the case.
Oh, @rosa mwemaid, Jordanians understand the English quite well. The royal family sends all its kids to England for school, to Eton & Sandhurst & etc.; the king’s mother is English. There must’ve been a reason for the Middletons wrangling an invite to that wedding. Or Kate wrangling for them. Maybe that’s it, no Kate at this wedding, no Middletons along for the ride.
It doesn’t matter if it’s royal, political or a society wedding, The Middletons always manage an invite and it’s weird that they weren’t there. Will AND Kate were invited so why not The Middletons ( if we are to believe they are only invited as a courtesy to Kate) ?
Plus the Grosvenor couple is a good ten years younger than the Middleton gang. I doubt they had any organic contact with the Middletons and being at the top of the toff pile would not feel any obligation to invite them.
Also, Hugh’s mother took on Camilla back in the day when Hugh’s sister was getting married. Hugh’s mother insisted that Camilla had to sit in the back of the church because she wasn’t married to CRex and the Queen was attending the wedding. CRex and Cams ended up not coming and are still mad about it. The same woman who snubbed Camilla is NOT letting the Middletons into her son’s wedding.
Hugh’s mother insisted that Camilla had to sit in the back of the church because she wasn’t married to CRex and the Queen was attending the wedding. CRex and Cams ended up not coming and are still mad about it.
That event supposedly forced Charles’ hand in marrying Camilla, iirc.
I think this explains why Charles and Camilla didn’t attend this wedding.
I thought it was the queen who insisted that it was protocol they not sit together something to do with her being there.
I’m sorry Eurydice, but I always understood Meghan’s statement during that interview as an attempt by her to counter-act any criticisms she might have received from the BM post-interview. It’s that thing where black people are never allowed to treat their tormentors in the same way. Like during the civil rights movement when peaceful marchers were teargassed and attacked by dogs and had to accept the violence without incident, or worst would happen to them.
It’s clear from Spare that both Harry and Meghan where fully aware of how small and petty both Kate and William were, and we still haven’t seen the other 400 pages.
I’m not sure to whom you’re responding here. I never said anything about Meghan.
Isn’t it near the end of the school year in England ? Surely the Wales children could have been excused for one day and also there were bridesmaids who look barely over the age of 12. It sounds more like William didn’t want his own children stealing his thunder after he had been screaming for weeks/months to anybody who would listen about his big role as an usher.
The excuse was they were doing exams.
School goes longer in the UK than in the US (and starts again later, in September). George has just started his summer term which began on 3 June and ends on 6 July.
The press really hyped this wedding as the wedding of the century and the only royals that attended were Will and Eugenie. Not even Beatrice (who will go to anything and everything) It was labeled as THE social event of the year and only 2 royals showed up?
I quite like that the richest guy in the UK married at Chester Cathedral and it wasn’t festooned with royals.
Well Harry didn’t go because of the press. It only got the hype because of the Harry, William feud, Harry was right to refuse, the press did its best to make it all about the feud even after they knew that Harry wasn’t coming, although they were economical with the truth about why Harry wasn’t coming,
There’s clearly a difference between a royal event and THE social event. Being a royal doesn’t necessearily mean you’re the hight of society in real life, just on paper. The king and escort was invited, but turned it down. IIRC Bride of Chucky had a dispute with either mother of the groom or mother of the grooms brother in law. The lady didn’t like that Cam’s older, drug using son was hanging out with her son and friends. Cam’s holding on to gruges like a mountain climber to a cliff hang.
Camilla doing her best to ruin Chuck’s brief reign and mark it as the Time of Petty is everything he deserves.
Drug dealing son….
Eugenie was there because she went to school with the bride. So her connection was organic.
The complete silence and absence of the Midds, to me, means they are all on the outs with W. As for why W went solo to this wedding, it’s the perfect opportunity to really check out the other guests, if you know what I mean.
I think William has effectively marked them as ‘un-safe’ to the society set and I think this actually happened YEARS ago when the separation started.
I think the relationship has been diplomatic at best since then and Kate was initially happy to accept a separate life as long as she had custody of the two spares and was Queen.
However the reality of that sunk in when he realised that left Bill free to entertain women in his other residences and now she realises she has trapped herself.
Given that this was a hard core aristo wedding no way they would have wanted any of those wannabe’s there – also am not sure the groom knows them as its been said he was always closer to Harry than William and as such wouldn’t have had Kate and her family shoved in his face all the time.
Basically they were not invited as they don’t know the couple thou am sure we’ll be hearing otherwise from Carole soon enough.
The Middleton were only in favor as long as Kate was. They had no clout or goodwill of their own. I believe there is a blackout on reporting of the Middletons because Willie has added them to the superinjunction that forbids reporting of his wife. Only palace approved stories are allowed.
I’m so distracted by all the shims under the pizza boxes.
I know! They don’t look stable! I wonder if the whole little walkway wobbled & heaved as people made their way across it.
Carole Middleton’s social climbing/hustling days are over, now that HER SON IN-LAW THREW HER (and Kate) UNDER THE BUS, IN EXCHANGE FOR BURYING HIS OWN BAD PRESS / BEHAVIOUR (because he no longer has access to C&C and H&M).
I still 100% think Kate took off with the kids, and Charles let her / is protecting her, because William is their common enemy.
Well, if William is not with C & C the King needs to get back to his other son and make it up, he can’t be distanced from both his children that makes him look an even worse father.
Yes, he’s a terrible father! But as they say… a broken clock that is right once a day (only when it comes to William).
I don’t think Charles would back Kate over William. Despite the reassuring letters from pa prince philip Charles always came first before Diana. Charles would want to have influence over George and not want Kate to raise him and possibly see to the education of Charlotte and Louis. The heirs would always come first with charles.
The institution always comes before the family and that means whatever the monarch wants. I don’t think Charles cares about Kate and will let William decide what he wants to do.
Besides he never liked the Middletons and constantly put out in the media that Carole and Mike were spending too much time with the grandkids.
So he will definitely ensure that all the grandkids are with William if that is what William wants.
Not that surprised if I’m being honest. The Middletons are Not Our Kind, Dear and never have been. William married Kate for….reasons but that family was never in with the top aristos. I’m sure they went to a lot of weddings in the past but now that the whole thing is falling apart the Toffs don’t feel the need to include them. At all. Especially not the Middletons without Kate….absolutely not!
Why on earth did William marry her, what ARE the reasons? He never seemed to like anything about her, her mother is Hyacinth Bucket and her uncle is a chancer. It didn’t turn out well at all. Where IS Kate?
He was obligated to find a wife who would fulfil various criteria: white, English, privately educated, willing and able to bear multiple children, willing to be compliant, willing to stay silent in the face of any press abuse, willing to abide by orders, with a family who are also willing to play along.
He didn’t have the choice to remain single and every other woman either ran away or wouldn’t have been silent and compliant.
Sad. And gross. I hope she brings him down.
I wonder how many phone numbers William got.
I’m honestly surprised that PW didn’t show up with a chest full of medals.
When was the last time Kate attended a wedding with William from their friendship circle? I seem to remember the Fail’s diary page noting her nonattendance at such events about 5 years ago? Did William attend James’s wedding?
It was said that William attended James and wedding but I actually don’t be love that he did. The press heavily implied that he was there didn’t didn’t outright that William was at James’ wedding.
There was a whole photo shoot of the wedding in France and yet neither Kate or William were seen.
Kate had gone there early with the kids while William was seen doing engagements in the UK. And then there was that crazy article were allegedly the French officiant spoke with William and Kate at the wedding and could describe what they were wearing.
It’s clear Carole was doing damage control. If William attended at all it was a fly in and out for the ceremony. And even that is doubtful.
@ Liz: Two years is a reasonable amount of time IMO. Sometimes you just know this is your person and how long you’ve been together doesn’t matter a bit. My bf knew her husband six weeks when they married. They were together 42 years when he passed away from brain cancer. They were truly the love of each other’s lives.
I agree Nancy, that was my point. Two years is fine. I actually think Kate & William’s courtship went on too long. You don’t drag your heels when you’re sure.
Lovely story about your friend 💕
And William broke up with Kate a few times
William must have loved that the tabloids were screaming about his “starring” role at the wedding. Ha – no one has taught him that the stars of a wedding are the bride and groom ?
Didn’t even make best man. Which I found amusing.
Also he was one of ten ushers at the wedding so not that special after all!
“No date.”
Yes, because his wife has cancer. This website continually gets worse and worse.
No, she doesn’t have cancer; and you’re not forced to read any articles on this website.
Nobody is forcing you to read or reply to my comment either, sweetie
And you’re a conspiracy theorist with the non cancer talk. Go to therapy for your delusions.
It makes a refreshing change from all the grovelling to the royals and slating Harry and Meghan. The trouble is the gutter press knows its audience too well, knows how to please them.
Coming into the comments to patronizingly call another commenter “sweetie” is a choice. It doesn’t sell your point.
@Ellie, Because Will’s favorite tabloid writers were saying he is gonna go to the wedding with George, not alone.
@sevenblue
Okay? You guys seem to pick and choose when to believe a tabloid or not. If it’s about Harry or Meghan it’s all lies!!1111!!!! But if it’s about William or Kate it isn’t. Gotcha.
@Ellie — man, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning…
@Ellie, that is because the royal rota is working for Charles & Will. They get good press, in exchange the royals give exclusive content to them. Harry is suing them and in the court, one of the tabloids’ lawyer said that the info about Harry came from the royal household. Why do you not know that if you are hanging out here?
Also, we know that the tabloids don’t write anything William or Charles doesn’t like. They deleted articles before after getting calls from the palace. If Will didn’t want that info there, it wouldn’t be there. Just like how the royal rota accidentally stated that they don’t publish unapproved pap pics of Kate.
“Go to therapy for your delusions”
This sort of canned and lazy accusation is pretty weak sauce 167 days on from Princess Catherine and her two youngest children last being seen publicly in a verifiable manner. Having declined the Easter walk Kate, Charlotte and Louis need to be accounted for in an unambiguous public setting to establish they are well and still in England. The next traditional event where the children are seen by the public is Trooping the Colour. Should the children not partake in the parade or appear on the balcony for Trooping it is important for the BRF to prove formal proof of life for the Princess of Wales and her two youngest children as soon as possible afterward.
We can make educated guesses about what happened to Kate all we like. The lies the press is spewing from KP and BP are as transparent as glass and nobody likes being lied to, especially when the subject of the lies is living a luxe life beyond belief for doing absolutely nothing. This isn’t about piling on someone who has cancer, we don’t even know that for sure; it’s that the royal family is hiding something much more sinister about William’s involvement in Kate’s disappearance. Furthermore, your comment “Go to therapy for your delusions” is unnecessarily rude. Go get some lessons in being polite.
Yes, I agree.
I’m aware that I tend to fall more on the “Scully” side than the “Mulder” side, in terms of perhaps being a bit too quick to say “oh that specific theory sounds a bit far fetched” or pointing out when specific details aren’t true/have been debunked or that certain sources aren’t very reliable.
But I hope I always do so politely, letting myself be led my logic and not emotion. Because logic dictates that the BRF (and KP in particular) have a history of lying and that they are not trustworthy, and logic dictates that things clearly don’t add up in a million small ways.
It’s possible to point out that KP isn’t trustworthy and things don’t add up, and be sceptical of the official line, while simultaneously saying that theories about murder coverups are in the realm of extreme conspiracy theories, and pointing out that this WhereIsKate kerfuffle has led to a lot of Internet Chinese whispers and debunked rumours being spread as fact.
And it’s possible to gently point out that certain things aren’t factual, or that certain theories are not logical, while also acknowledging that people aren’t wrong or “delusional” for speculating in a situation where we’re blatantly being lied to.
Proof of Life or she’s not alive.
I’m absolutely certain she’s alive and milking it as much as she can. She’ll drag this on as long as possible, long after her health stopped requiring it: rest, play tennis,swim,shop ,do nothing and still have the houses, the mansions, the gardens etc etc etc. Exactly what she initially wanted: much given for doing nothing.
Well, you’re more certain than anyone else on earth. Do you have inside intel? Because from here it looks like NO ONE has seen Kate Middleton since Christmas of 2023. Where IS Kate? Is she alive or dead? Let us know, Alice
Then why are you here commenting if it’s so terrible???
@Ellie, you know that bench video was manipulated by AI, right? And if you pay close attention to the wording, “Kate” doesn’t say she has cancer, only that a few cancerous cells were noted post-op and that adjuvant chemo had been recommended. In fact AI Kate comes right out and says she is “well.” You seem quite defensive. People here are concerned that there has been no verifiable, completely un-retouched proof of life of a whole grown Royal woman since Christmas of 2023. Kate has been missing from a family known to treat woman poorly for close on SIX MONTHS.
Isn’t Rosie van Cutsem one of William’s exes? From when he was on one of his breaks from Kate.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think the Middletons have ever been in the Westminster’s’ circle, and it would have been odd if they’d attended.
Huh. The DM says he reportedly dated her during the 2007 split from Kate. He also dated Rose Farquhar. So many rose entanglements.
William looks like a man in his early 60s, for Christ’s sake. What’s up with that?
He isn’t aging well. He favors his father’s side of the family, and they aren’t pretty.
Plus, his rage-fueled tantrums don’t add to his attractiveness. Neither do his clenched jaw and fists. Sustained anger and envy can’t be good for one’s physical appearance.
Its probably the alcohol and maybe drug abuse doing it.
What is going on with his pants at the knee? Does he have a flask hidden there?
I don’t think Kate would be a catch for an aristocrat, just like no aristocrat was ever going to marry Pippa, despite her desperately chasing any man who would inherit a title and with Kate’s backing.
But I also don’t think they are divorcing. I do think Kate’s absence is health related, and either shes very sick or she’s out of the country, or both. If what they say is true and she’s only getting preventative chemo (whatver that is), then being treated in another country would explain why she cannot appear in public even though she is healthy even to do so. Or, maybe the coma story is true and she has not sufficiently recovered in a way that can hide her impediments (the royal family is notably ableist), or they don’t want to pull the plug and are waiting to see if Charles dies first (that way Kate could “technically” be considered “queen” before she dies). Who knows. But I never thought they will divorce. William will never be seen having a failed marriage while Harry’s marriage is so strong. William would rather put up with a wife he can scream and throw things at, than look bad in comparison to Harry.
Jumping into the comments before reading the thread (ADHD brain won’t let me remember what I was thinking if I start entertaining myself with the comments here!!) to say that I only noticed now that William van Cutsem looks like pharma bro Shkreli.
Okay, not exactly on topic, but can I ask how Hugh Grosvenor became such a friend to either Harry or William. He’s a lot younger than either and wouldn’t have been in school with him. I know the family connection and that King Snubby is his Godfather as Hugh is George’s Godfather. Does that make them ‘close’ friends?
I tend to think this is more about knowing each other because of being in the aristocratic circles. I also know that borrowing Westminster’s jet is something the royals (certainly Billy Idle) have done. Is he still doing so? Is that what is called friendship?
Probably all about the jet.
I bought the Sunday paper yesterday for the TV guide .
I hate our newspapers , their anti Sussex vendetta although not as bad is still there .
Flipping through it was a headline ,William star of the show at wedding of the year .
A couple of photos of his ugliness , none of the bride and groom .I just shook my head .
I checked out the female journo who I had never heard of , works for News Corp and it’s a Rupert newspaper .
Australian media at it’s finest .
Is William wearing his wedding ring ?
He’s never worn a wedding ring
Re: Aristos not liking Middletons
This may be true but please don’t think aristos-good and middletons-bad. Aristos are just as vile if not more so. If anything they’re stupider and literally way more self entitled.
At least the Middletons work for a living.
Quote the generalization there and quite non factual.
At this point the only explanation that makes sense to me is that Kate is gravely ill. I don’t believe William attacked her physically but he may have raged at her and she tried to take her own life. I think she had a stroke and is learning to walk and talk again. The whole thing is a mess.
He could have take his daughter, he has 3 kids but only George is the one who is constantly with him we did not see the 2 spares since december just like their mother they went missing
I am no fan of the Middletons. But for years(centuries) these Aristos have been very snobbish and condescending , looking down on normal people.
Well this wedding has been a laughing stock all over SM.
Now it’s what they would call the “masses” who’s been looking down at them- and how irrelevant they are in a very different world than they’re used to.
All I see is very expensive te-mu and
she-in (ladies!) clothes
There’s rich and there’s noveau riche. The Grosvenors are in the first group and the Middletons are in the second. Those in the first group tend to look down on those in the second. The Grosvenors don’t need to cosy up to the Middletons to worm their way into the royal circle so I’m not surprised that they were not invited.
Also, if William brought George, it would cramp his style if there were single young ladies at the reception.