I don’t spend much time or effort on men’s fashion. I can see when a man is well-dressed or snazzy, and I can see when a man is uncomfortable and/or doesn’t give a sh-t about clothes. King Charles is someone who enjoys clothes and, even with all of his many moral failings, I often think he looks quite snazzy. Charles’s heir didn’t inherit that quality. William doesn’t give a sh-t. He turns up in wrinkled jackets and robes. His pants are never tailored properly and I’m disgusted every time I see that man’s moose knuckle. His awkward body language and bad posture ruin most of his outfits too. Well, it turns out that William does care about one thing: he cares about not adhering to any of the monarchy’s dress codes.
Princes William and Harry attracted much attention that evening in May 2016 because, like their grandfather Prince Philip, they were wearing their striking ‘Windsor uniforms’. Designed to demonstrate loyalty, the matching navy and red coats are a historic piece of regalia introduced by ‘mad’ King George III more than 200 years ago which are still worn by senior Royals at Windsor Castle today. Created in 1777, the original version featured heavy gold braiding and a bicorne hat trimmed with ostrich feathers, which George III demanded all of his courtiers and ministers wear. The version that exists today is markedly simpler: a plain navy tailcoat with red facings.
This week, the Windsor uniform made another appearance for the state banquet in honour of French president Emmanuel Macron. King Charles, Prince Edward and Vice Admiral Sir Timothy Laurence, husband of Princess Anne, all wore the uniform with pride.
William, however, chose a different outfit. Instead of co-ordinating with his father, the heir to the throne chose to wear white tie. This was, I am told, no accident.
‘His Royal Highness dressed appropriately, but does not need to match his father on all occasions,’ a courtier told me. ‘It’s no secret that William does not feel hidebound by tradition. He respects tradition, but does not believe that we always have to follow it.’
Given that William was prepared to wear the uniform for his beloved grandmother, it could be seen as an act of rebellion that he chose not to put it on now his father is on the throne. But it is not the first time William has demonstrated his unease with some of the more antiquated sartorial traditions maintained by the King. For example, when His Majesty hosted a reception for the Diplomatic Corps at Buckingham Palace last November, he wore white tie with traditional knee breeches and buckled shoes. William, however, chose modern trousers and shoes. The fact that this seemed to be a sensitive subject may have been emphasised by the Palace’s decision to release photographs of the event that showed William mainly from the waist up.
And that’s not the only sartorial sore point for the Prince of Wales. As a sign of their deep affection for Scotland – where they own several properties including Balmoral – male members of the Royal Family traditionally wear kilts when north of the border. Yet William – who holds the Scottish titles of Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew and Lord of the Isles, and is of course the heir to the Scottish throne – has not been seen in a kilt since he was a little boy. And there is no sign that will change.
My sources tell me William’s willingness to break royal wardrobe tradition is in keeping with his attitude to the monarchy in general.
‘William is determined to be a different type of monarch,’ a courtier tells me.
They point to his refusal to have any investiture ceremony to mark his becoming Prince of Wales in 2022. The absence of red cloth on William’s collars at the Windsor banquet this week may seem a trivial detail, but it is a highly significant sign of what to expect from the next royal reign.
It’s just too funny that a 42-year-old heir-to-the-throne’s big rebellion is “not wearing a certain coat.” William really throws full-on tantrums about wearing pants, right? “I don’t want to wear knickerbockers, I’M GOING TO BE KING!” The Rebel Heir’s big cause is not really environmentalism or football, but the right to wear wrinkled clothes and avoid all sartorial traditions. I also wonder if some of these pants-tantrums are really about Prince Harry’s glow-up. I mean, even when Harry shopped in bargain bins, he still wore clothes well, in that effortless way common to charismatic, attractive people. But Harry definitely started to take more care with his appearance, wearing good-quality suits and great sportswear. I do feel like that factors into whatever is going on with Willy’s clothing tantrums.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Cover Images, Kensington Palace’s social media.
- King Charles III and Queen Camilla during the Diplomatic Corps reception at Buckingham Palace in London. Picture date: Tuesday November 19, 2024. PA Photo. See PA story ROYAL Diplomatic. Photo credit should read: Aaron,Image: 936503943, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon/Avalon
- The Prince of Wales during the Diplomatic Corps reception at Buckingham Palace in London. Picture date: Tuesday November 19, 2024. PA Photo. See PA story ROYAL Diplomatic. Photo credit should read: Aaron,Image: 936504057, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon/Avalon
- King Charles III arriving for the State Banquet for President of France Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte Macron, at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the French President’s state visit to the UK. Picture date: Tuesday July 8, 2025.,Image: 1019898127, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon
- WINDSOR, ENGLAND – JULY 08: Prince William, Prince of Wales and Catherine, Princess of Wales attend the State Banquet at Windsor Castle on July 08, 2025 in Windsor, England. President Emmanuel Macron and Mrs Brigitte Macron visit the UK in the first visit State Visit made by France in 17 years. They are staying at Windsor Castle, hosted by King Charles III and Queen Camilla, and a banquet will be held there in their honour. The Macrons will visit Imperial College, and the President will address Parliament during his stay.,Image: 1019898222, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Chris Jackson/Avalon
- King Charles and Queen Camilla welcome President Macron and Mrs Macron for the state visit accompanied by the Princess and Princess of Wales .Official welcome at Windsor and Eton Riverside for the French State Visit Featuring: William, Prince of Wales, Catherine, Princess of Wales Where: London, United Kingdom When: 08 Jul 2025 Credit: Cover Images
- Queen Camilla, King Charles III with France’s President Emmanuel Macron and wife Brigitte arriving for the State Banquet for President of France Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte Macron, at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the French President’s state visit to the UK Featuring: Queen Camilla, King Charles III, Emmanuel Macron, Brigitte Macron Where: Windsor, United Kingdom When: 08 Jul 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- The Prince and Princess of Wales, followed by the Princess Royal and the Duke of Edinburgh arriving for the State Banquet for President of France Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte Macron, at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the French President’s state visit to the UK Featuring: William, Prince of Wales, Catherine, Princess of Wales Where: Windsor, United Kingdom When: 08 Jul 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- The Prince and Princess of Wales, followed by the Princess Royal and theDuke and Duchess of Edinburgh arriving for the State Banquet for President of France Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte Macron, at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the French President’s state visit to the UK Featuring: William, Prince of Wales, Catherine, Princess of Wales Where: Windsor, United Kingdom When: 08 Jul 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- The Prince and Princess of Wales, followed by the Princess Royal and the Duke of Edinburgh arriving for the State Banquet for President of France Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte Macron, at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the French President’s state visit to the UK Featuring: William, Prince of Wales, Catherine, Princess of Wales Where: Windsor, United Kingdom When: 08 Jul 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
I think William just likes saying “no.” Every conversation with him must be so tiring:
Random person: I propose A
William: NOT A (never proposes B. Just NOT A)
Cue the video of Diana saying to W, “Alright, H will have all the fun then,” to which W yells back, “no….no….NO..NO..NO!”
@SURE … Oh my goodness! I knew I’d watch that video before, but I can’t find it on the Internet anymore. What gets me about that video is the ‘adamant’ anger on William’s face as well as his petulance. I thought it was a bit sad that Diana had to use Harry in that manner just to get William to obey her, but it appeared like she had no choice.
For me, that one snapshot (well, video clip) from their childhood explains a lot about the dynamics between William and Harry’s relationship. “Harry will have all the fun.” This goes a lot toward explaining William’s jealousy.
I’ve often wondered who put it out on the Internet to begin with. It certainly wasn’t Diana because she passed away prior to the Internet. Something that makes you go Hmmmm.
The genesis of the jealousy and hate…
https://youtube.com/shorts/wuT06Ko2etE?si=MzC5dNLMgXTL7UqY
Yes, he’s a contrarian and hates his father deeply.
He needs therapy badly.
There is literally a DSM-5 classification, “Oppositional Defiant Disorder.” Have a look at the diagnostics and it’s William to a tee
I kind of side with William on this. The traditional outfits are ugly and sometimes just silly. When they are all dressed alike it gives me Christmas pajama photos.
@Megan
Problem is, they supposedly exist to uphold and continue ‘British tradition’. At this rate, I think they might as well abolish the monarchy. Why are taxpayers funding their lavish lifestyle if they are not going to continue the traditions and costumes? Their funding should be drastically reduced as a modern monarchy, which William seems to be ushering in, will not need the exorbitant funding and elaborate costumes. I think a rebellious William is probably good for the republic group’s calls to abolish the monarchy. 💪
This fancy dress was designed by George III. Aside from being the mad king, he declared slavery to be wrong, but waited 57 years while 400,000 Africans were forcibly deported to the US to do anything about it. Do they really want to uphold that tradition, or would a modern monarchy recognize this belongs in the past in the correct historical context?
They use the traditional monarchy to make a case for the growing size of the taxpayer funding. Without the over the top pantomime from that family why would they need the exorbitant staff and clothes. The funding should diminish with the elimination of the traditional costumes, pantomime and expansive staff the employ. I think a modern monarchy should require less money which is one of the issues the republic group highlights.
I am so pleased this is being discussed. I noticed it straight away and is a further sign that Charles and William are at loggerheads and their friendly smiles in public is all a sham. William is deliberately refused to wear the Windsor coat simply to defy his father. Why did he rail against Harry being allowed to keep his beard. William is a big hypocrite.
So wait. The women all wore white. The men wore the Windsor uniform.
Kate wore red. William wore white tie.
I mean ok. But there is more to being a progressive monarch than refusing to wear certain traditional clothes. But William is too vapid to get that.
I’m hate-reading about William at this point. The more I learn, the more I dislike this petulant lazy man-child. And there has to be so much more that we don’t even know.
He threw a pantrum.
Ha! So in Scotland is he throwing a kiltrum?
Literally all he has to do is show up in an outfit and make small talk! Seems like he’s kinda terrible at both. Going to get interesting when he is top dog!
Maybe he knew Kate was wearing red and didn’t want to match.
These people and their weirdo traditions.
I thought he didn’t want to match her also.
10 out of 10. No notes.
Perfect.
Good one a pantrum 😂😂. Peg just wants to do and wear whatever he wants protocol means nothing to him just to others.
Outstanding work. 10/10 for making us smile at the end of the week.
I cackled.
Hahahahahaha that’s great!
He is so dour. If they don’t get wear the whimsical stuff and carry on the harmless traditions, what is the point?
This.
My view is it’s a bit of “you can’t make me so ner ner ner” in the style of a small child and also the fact that he is so deeply uncomfortable in his own body (only highlighted by the contrast to his brother who cares deeply about things but has the confidence to not take himself too seriously) that he can’t stand the thought of having to wear any of these costumes.
This is part of the uniform for his ‘job’.
Idk he didn’t look dressed that much different from them, still covered in fake medals and ribbons and starburst pins just like his dad, he’s just not got the red lapels. Big whoop!
While William states that he’ll “modernize” the monarchy what he’ll really do is strip it of all the traditions that bind it to the people. I predict that William’s reign will be the last for the House of Windsor. Lastly I’m loving how William refuses to treat his father, the king, with even a modicum of respect, something he would never have done to the late queen. It’s rather wonderful to see Charles get exactly what he deserves from his eldest son and heir.
I am very much enjoying watching all of this from the cheap seats. I hesitate to hope it will happen in my lifetime but I’m confident this is the end.
#abolishthemonarchy
Huevo disrespected the queen by pouting and refusing to work full time and getting her to let him have the fake air ambulance work. He disrespected her by trying to stop the marriage of harry and Meghan after the queen approved of it
The Windsor family is a very dysfunctional family. 🤷🏽♀️
Generation after generation of gripes and snubs telegraphed for public consumption.
Parents vs Children
Siblings vs Siblings
Cousins vs Cousins
Spouse vs Spouse
Yep, this adversarial relationship between father and soon is very on brand for the BRF
“William is determined to be a different type of monarch.”
Yup, the Zoom Monarch and Attendee of AV football matches.
I note his refusal to wear the kilt. Another reason for Scotland to declare independence. QE the QM was Scottish and he went to a Scottish university (admittedly the most English), so his refusal to wear Scotland’s national costume makes me wonder why he expects he is going to be King of Scotland.
For real though, he can change it up sartorially when he’s king. But refusing to wear something, which is seen as a sign of loyalty, for his dad when he’s sick, seems like a pretty big snub. For the Windsors anyways. Charles is a sh-t dad though so clearly William does not give a f-ck. It’s just the lack of outrage over William clearly defying the hierarchy that gets me.
Should one grown man really be telling another grown man what to wear? I get respect for hierarchy with regard to major decisions but not sartorial decisions.
I see that photo 2 was picked to show the rumpled back of Williams’s jacket. And it does look like it had been balled up and left lying on the floor.
But what first caught my eye was Kate’s hand. (Clearly the photoshopping ended with the face.) It looked like the hand of a much older woman. There is something wrong with her. I’m not a fan but it is painful to see her looking so gaunt.
Huh, what I noticed about her hand was placement. Re-watched M & H doc yesterday and noticed when M places her hand on H’s back, it is always higher. More like btwn his shoulders vs at or below his waist. I don’t know why I find that interesting, but I do.
Kate has zero subcutaneous fat and it shows up in places like her hands. There was a photo where they were greeting the Macrons at the airport, she was in the Dior outfit, she and William were sorta holding hands, and her hand looked blueish or purplish. His hand, right above and below hers, was a normal color. At first I thought it was shadow or something about lighting, but the underside of his thumb, also in the shadow, looked perfectly normal.
I would give him a pass if he didn’t have people to help him dress and prepare his clothes, which I assume he does? Some people struggle with clothes. My son always did. He would prefer to be a in a tee shirt and shorts all the time if it were up to him, and even when he’s trying his best his clothes don’t always look perfect on him. I don’t consider it a moral failing. But like I said, he doesn’t have people to help him the way William does. And he’s not going to be King.
I have the same son
I remember a big deal being made about William stepping things up and getting a valet. And then not much changed. Maybe that guy left and that’s why we’re subject to awful moose knuckle photos.
I mentioned above that these outfits are also part of the uniform for his job. If you wan’t to dress a certain way then don’t stay in a job that has very different expectations!
The Power of No as exercised by Will and Kate will be the downfall of the Firm when they should be front and centre. Both will just nope out of anything no matter how trivial, that doesn’t suit them !
This is so interesting. Harry was able to rebel by getting out; William is stuck inside.
@Eurydice acute observation as always. FK “doing” things his way eg not even memorising his oath of alliance to dad at Coronation. Turning up late, keeping hacked off King waiting in the Golden carriage. Reciting oath from a card, sounding bored, instead of hissing straight at dad, “Can’t make me do anything that I don’t wanna!”
The Republic of the UK is maybe not far off 🤷🏽♀️… I think the republic group may appreciate William’s rebellion if it helps with their mission…. 😜
The current crop of Windsors are a gift to Republic.
William is STILL salty about the diplomatic reception in 2006 where he had to wear the pants, pose for pictures, and looked ridiculous.
I mean, Charles and Philip kind of looked silly in those “I stuffed my dress pants into wellies” pants too, but at least they wore them with confidence. That’s what the money’s for, WILL.
The traditional clothing doesn’t photograph well and often looks cheap/silly. He isn’t wrong to buck some of the traditional clothes. But. He looks poorly groomed and tailored. Moisturize, Cassandra, Moisturize! There is no excuse for him not to look clean and put together with the amount of money he sponges of the taxpayers.
So that makes both of them ignoring protocol/tradition. Kate didn’t wear white like the other royal women, instead she wore tons of gathered red fabric.
I’m more inclined to believe that he didn’t refuse to wear the uniform, but rather that his father forbade him, that he was somehow unworthy, or something, and that William reacts this way to prohibitions or disrespect. Remember? “William will under no circumstances meet his brother while Harry is in London,” which was a reaction to Harry ignoring him, thinking about him at all, not speaking to him, not trying to contact him. When Charles told him to do a floral walk with HM, William’s first words when he went public were “It was my idea,” repeated three times.
Look where Charles seated William at the banquet. On the other side of the several-meter-wide table, behind the tall flowers, and he seated Kate, whom Charles also hates, next to Macron. William must have really pissed him off, and he clearly seated her there to spite William. We have no idea how much war is raging beyond the walls.
Kate sat next to Macron, William next to Brigitte Macro. It is proper for the heirs to be placed next to the guests of honor. No shade here.
William’s little act of rebellion? Makes him look stupid.
Kate’s dress? I wonder if she surprised everyone with red and it was too late to send her home to change. It was weird that all other royal ladies wore white/off white, only Kitty had to stand out. And she was swimming in far too much fabric, no good look on her. Givenchy must shudder seeing the pictures. This dress won’t sell.
Think Kate also went off script with that red dress when all other senior royal women wore white.
Doesn’t Bette Davis outrage everybody at a cotillion ball by wearing a scarlet dress in Jezebel 1938 classic movie when the dress code is white?
Yep! One of my all-time favorite movies! I remember reading that the dress was actually brown, not red, because red fabric doesn’t come across as red in a B&W film. Brown, oddly enough, does.
No, the three senior women wore the colours of the French and British flags, red, white and blue.
I normally wouldn’t criticize William for this, but it’s galling that Meghan gets so much hate for allegedly “not following protocol” and it’s the double standard that I hate.
Kate’s red dress somehow manages to make her fade away rather than stand out in those photos. Maybe it’s the wrong shade of red? Maybe it’s because there are red chairs, red carpets, red wall panels, and she just blend in with the furniture. Either way, she is not memorable.
It’s because it matches the red of the walls
Clever way Kate is faking a close, loving relationship: she’s looking at the camera with her arm across Will’s back while Will is turned away from the camera. So we miss the dismissive, contemptuous look we just know is on his face. “How dare she touch me?!?”
So William does put on his big-boy pants once in a while.
I just came here to say that I don’t think it matters what they wear or if they’re really trying to look nice – those hideous sashes and bows just ruin their clothes. QEII actually had some stunning dresses, especially in the 50s and they were ruined by all of the pageantry.
He is fine wearing the velvet capes, with the long cords and all the rest of the fluffy fro-fra, and the ostrich feather hats, but he draws the line at a family tradition, deep blue tailcoat? Ok. Sure.
I thought those tailcoats on KC3 and PE looked kind of cool, since they were doing a big formal state dinner, why not?
PW seems like a colossal asshat, and an insufferable bore. He is already trying to take over and wants all the attention on him. His wife is like a weather vane spinning in the wind. She doesn’t know who or what she is. Both of them are awkward AF.
Did we ever get to see Harry in breeches? I would have loved that!
I am not a fan of William’s, but I do think it is okay for a grown man to not want to wear knickers in 2025
All I see now when looking at pictures of William, is Mr. Burns from The Simpsons. 🤷♀️
PS: The header photo is the first I’ve seen in years of William and Kate smiling at each other (ok, can’t see his entire face but he doesn’t look typically incandescent with rage), almost at ease within the other’s presence.
I think it’s perfectly fine for a grown man to dictate what he will and won’t wear. Fashions change over time, even royal fashions, and that’s ok. The issue I have with this is that the British Press used the sacredness of “protocol” and “tradition” over Meghan’s head at every turn like the sword of Damocles. Her life was put in mortal danger by these nutjobs–led and fed by William!!–who insisted that these made-up rituals and rules are the most important thing ever and any deviation from them is treason.
Did they actually manage to get a photo of these two looking at each other, or am I seeing things?