
Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau were first spotted together back in July. They are one of the most unlikely pairings we’ve heard about in a long time. They’re even more random than Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus. While Katy and Orlando Bloom broke up sometime early this year, Justin and his ex-wife of 18 years, Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, have been separated since summer 2023. Here in America, Sophie has been largely out of the spotlight since then. Last week, however, she appeared on the Arlene is Alone podcast, in which host Arlene Dickinson navigates the single life. Sophie’s interview has gotten a lot of attention because it’s her first public comment on Justin’s relationship with Katy and how she feels about seeing them in the news.
When asked by host Arlene Dickinson how she has dealt with the publicity of Justin, 53, and Perry’s romance, Grégoire responded, “We’re human beings and stuff affects us. Normal. How you react to stuff is your decision. So I choose to try to listen to the music instead of the noise.”
“I’m very aware that a lot of public stuff out there can be triggers. Right, we’re humans,” she continued. “What I do with it is my decision. The woman I want to become through this is my decision.”
“Does that mean I don’t have emotions? That I don’t cry, scream, laugh? No. Especially that I’m a super tender heart, right? But it’s my decision after that, between the emotion and the reaction,” she added.
Grégoire’s comments come after her estranged husband and Perry, 41, made their first public appearance as a couple on Oct. 25, while in Paris for the pop star’s birthday. The former Canadian Prime Minister and Perry were first linked after being spotted on a dog walk together in July.
Grégoire, who announced her separation from Justin after 18 years of marriage in 2023, said that she has to “let myself feel” amid the news of her ex-husband’s new romance.
“I’ll let myself be disappointed by someone, I’ll let myself be angry, be sad. And I know for a fact how important it is, as a mental health advocate, to feel those emotions,” she told podcast host Dickinson.
While she’s allowed herself to be emotional, Grégoire said that she doesn’t want to be in “reactive mode.”
“You can stay in that reactive mode, but you’ll suffer the consequences,” she commented. “I’m also learning at 50 that people will meet life as where they are inside of them … it’s your choice to see that and be like, ‘How am I going to let that affect my happiness?’
When it comes to her and Justin’s three children, Xavier, 18, Ella-Grace, 16, and Hadrien, 11, Grégoire added that she and Justin have maintained a solid foundation for them since their split.
“We have separate lives, but we have one family life,” she said. “You need a common, conscious decision that our family is our greatest creation and we’re going to feed it together, no matter if we’re on different life paths.”
I haven’t found any official confirmation but there were rumors that Sophie was seeing somebody post-separation. She joked on the podcast that she is “single, trilingual and ready to mingle.” Even if she is in a relationship, that doesn’t mean that she isn’t allowed to have feelings about seeing her ex with someone new. This is a pretty self-aware and nuanced take on the situation. She’s right that you can make a tough decision like breaking up with someone and still have complicated emotions when you see them out with someone new. I was there 20 years ago and although those feelings have long since faded away, I still remember how complicated they felt, especially because it was in those early days of social media. It’s just normal, human nature. It really is all about how you react to these big feelings (yay, therapy!). It’s weird to hear someone as prominent as Sophie admit to having triggers, but it’s also reassuring that she knows what she can handle. Hopefully, she’s able to avoid these triggers as much as possible. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that she is not the type of ex that has Google News alerts for Justin. What’s most important is that they’re getting along for their kids’ sake and it sounds like they are.
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Very mature answers from this woman. I wish her well.
Rumour has it Sophie is dating a doctor in Ottawa. I’ve never seen pics or public comments though.
It was covered more in Quebec media, but she was referenced in the divorce filings of that doctor’s ex wife. National post may have done a story on it as well.
Generally Canadian media tends to stay away from reporting on the spouses of politicians especially when it is personal issues.
Sophie posted pictures during Canadian thanksgiving with the kids and Justin was in them as well.
I am sure it’s not great to see your ex husband’s dating life in the media but Sophie is authentic when she discusses mental health. Other public figures should take note.
I don’t know if she and the doctor are still.together but that relationship was pretty known in Ottawa circles for years, prior to the divorce. In fact, there was speculations on both side. Just like the rumours that former PM Harper’s wife hates him. People know but don’t care all that much. The Canadian press is good at not covering the personal stuff. I think that is fair.
Sophie’s take is reasonable and mature.
I like Sophie, I always have. She has always been classy. Katie Perry, not so much.
There were rumours that Sophie was already in a relationship with a doctor when she and Trudeau announced they were separating. I’m not judging because I imagine the breakdown of their separation was drawn out and difficult. The vibe was off for quite a while.
If it’s the correct photo I saw, the doctor she was (or is?) dating is handsome. I felt compelled to share.
Not sure what was going on in her marriage with Trudeau, but from a physical standpoint they seemed to suit each other. I still can’t picture Trudeau standing next to Katy Perry in her music video or concert outfits. I can’t picture him standing next to ger even in her intellectual, astronaut outfits. The fact there are actual pictures of them standing together and kissing makes my comment even stranger. You’re free to tell me so because I know I don’t make sense even to myself.
I thought she was dating a handsome doctor? I actually like what she said and think she’s a classy lady ……KP not so much
Justin has definitely downgraded.
Sophie and Justine were Dunzo a long time before separation was announced. My sister works in government in Ottawa and everyone knew about the surgeon boyfriend, so the announcement was a big nothing burger