**********THIS WHOLE POST IS A SPOILER OF THE LOST FINALE***********
Okay, okay… am I the only one who spent the last fifteen minutes saying “What the f-ck… no seriously, WHAT THE F-CK?!?” to themselves while rocking gently? The first two hours? Great television. Amazing television. I was crying throughout Sun and Jin’s memories, through Claire giving birth with Charlie and Kate there, and especially through Sawyer and Juliette. I mean, I could barely see the television I was crying so hard through Sawyer and Juliette’s “We can go Dutch.”
But none of it f-cking mattered. Because they’re all dead. Right? I mean, this whole thing was like cosmic, sci-fi, uber-churchy purgatory where the characters learned life lessons and the power of love in this world that they all created to be with each other because they were all dead…? Right?
Question: Why aren’t Miles, Kate, Claire, Sawyer and Lupedis still alive? I mean, they were flying off? So weren’t they the real survivors? Or are we supposed to know that none of them even survived the first plane crash in episode 1, season 1? Or did they all survive and live for a long time, but in this purgatory they were just young again?
Question: Where was a Desmond-Penny scene? Did anyone else miss Penny? Her scenes with Desmond were always so powerful, and she just got thrown in at the end, like, “Oh, yeah, they loved each other too.” But Penny isn’t dead! She never died on the island in any way shape or form. She was never even on the island, was she? And if Desmond survived the red light of electromagnetic hell (?), then he’s stuck on the island, but Hurley is going to make sure Desmond gets home to Penny and their kid…? …The f-ck?
Question: Not that it really matters at this point, but when Rose and Bernard appeared, didn’t it just click? “Oh, THEY should be the protectors of the island.” Hurley? Dude, I hope bud grows on the island. But since Rose and Bernard were “dead” too I guess they were killed at some point…?
Question: Shannon? Really? I thought the love of Sayid’s life was Nadia? Sure, I was happy to see Shannon and Boone, but I didn’t care for the way that played out.
Also: UGH CHRISTIAN SHEPHARD. Everything related to Christian Shephard as a character and everything related to the concept of “the Christian shepherd” is bullsh-t. I hate Jack and his f-cking daddy issues. And I also hate the sinking realization that I’ve been watching such a religious show for six years. I realize they through in the obligatory Buddha (for the Koreans?) and a menorah (For… Sawyer? Who was the Jewish character? Ben? He seems like a goy.) I didn’t see a crescent, so Sayid’s faith wasn’t represented. And why can’t the Hindus get some love? Can we get a shout-out to Shinto? Wicca?
All in all, I think the creators were too busy building the last episode on the idea/image of the closeup of Jack’s eye, like how the series started, and a recurring image throughout the series. They wanted to have Jack’s eye closing, and they built the story around that. Bullsh-t. Jack as this Christ-figure martyred by the island/his father/being an alcoholic was one of the worst ideas of the whole show.
I’m sure there’s a lot more to discuss, but I can’t even do it at this point. I kind of wish I had just stopped watching when Sawyer and Juliette reunited. That would have made me so happy. So… what did you all think? Happy? Sad? Content? Disappointed?
I am so “Lost”. I guess that’s kind of the point I guess, but I don’t understand who died, what Christian Shepard had to do with anything in the end, or why Lost even had to end. With that plot line, the show could have gone on forever!!! And it Should Have!!!!!!!!!!!
It is a disappointing because all those years ago many of us sat there after the first episode and said “WOW! Brilliant…but they are totally dead and in purgatory!”
Bit sad really.
I don’t understand! I am so “lost” but I guess that is the point.who is dead? What does Christian Shepard have to do with anything? Why did lost have to end? With that plot line this show could have gone on forever, and would have gladly watched it because the more I watch it the more I get it.
I loved it! At on point in the church Christian said something like “some died before you and some long after, they were just gathering to go together to the next place…”
So Penny could have lived a full life and then came to be reunited with Des, and looks like she did in her prime or as Des remembered her most.
Also I think when they remembered -they showed them in life up to their death so the last thing that was shown was close to when they actually died. IDK this is just what I think.
I will really miss this show .
The show’s creator is just a Rod Serling tryhard that doesn’t hit the spot. I stopped watching Fringe early in the piece, as I stopped watching Lost -when I got sick and tired of all the flashbacks, in the first season. For me, the series hasn’t been intellectually satisfying on many levels.
Is this ending a surprise to me? No. Maybe the flashbacks were the hint? I don’t know.
I think the whole point of Christian Shepard was for Jack to “let go” of his issues with him. Cause it appeared that the only way they would be able to finally leave purgatory would to find their inner goodness and resolve any unfinished business to find peace.
answers (at least from my pov):
1. The “church” at the end was outside of time. That sounds crazy but they’ve been messing w time throughout the series. Everyone arrived when they arrived, which means Kate, Miles, etc lived probably full lives and then made it to the church when they died. (Kate says, I’ve missed you for so long, or something like that to Jack) Same thing w Hurley and Ben. It seemed like they had a lifetime of experiences together otherwise why the “you were a great #1” exchange. and I think they all survived the original crash. The sideways universe was a kind of limbo that they created to find each other again.
2. I’m w you- I totally could’ve used more of Penny and Desmond, they were by far my favorites. and I would assume (possibly incorrectly) that since Jacob could go to and from the island, so could Hurley as protector? or like Ben said, he could make up the “rules” or how to get on or off.
3.The key to Rose and Bernard not being the protectors to me was what Rose said. They don’t get involved. If that’s their worldview it would be hard to see someone protect the island w/out getting involved.
4. They never said Nadia was the love of Sayid’s life. He never named her. just said “the woman I truly loved” or something like that. I kind of always assumed it was Shannon b/c that same episode they mysteriously “found” her inhaler near the caves as if to remind us of their relationship.
5. ugh Christian Shepard as well. He always annoyed me (although it doesn’t help that I have alcoholic family members?) but I loved the ending. I was crying and it just made me really happy that at the end, regardless of what specifically happened w their long or short lives, they found the people who meant the most to them and were all really happy. I don’t know how much it matched the whole series, but that’s all I could say. I’m not sure what exactly happened, but I liked it.
also: if they are all dead in the sideways universe- it technically is limbo and not purgatory. Limbo is for waiting, purgatory is for punishment.
(unless you think they were being punished, in which case more power to you)
I have to say I was a bit disappointed at first after I watched the last 15 minutes too even though my prediction was that Jack would die before the finale started. But the more I think about it the more I am coming to terms with the end. They weren’t all dead the whole time-what happened on the island did happen and Kate Sawyer Claire etc did make it off the island to live their lives. I guess they came together in a place outside of the boundaries of space and time to help Jack let go and find peace that he found his purpose and his character came full circle from the beginning. It was a quite heavy ending but LOST has always been ambiguous with much room for interpretation.
Besides I loved loved watching the show and I do not want to be disappointed with the ending so I am trying real hard to make sense of it. One thing I was unsure of what was with the plane wreckage at the end? Anyone have thoughts on that?
I never got hooked by Lost but can relate to how fans feel because I was devoted to The Sopranos.
I watched the last 15 minutes of Lost last night. At least the writers respected the viewers enough to give them an actual ending to their experience with the series, even if some people don’t like it.
On The Sopranos we got nothing but a gimmicky cop-out. I thought it was a technical problem and that our cable connection had died. What an artistic failure and total letdown.
Did Lost = Jacobs Ladder both the religious allegories and the movie with Tim Robbins?
My husband thinks that everyone died on the orginal plane crash and everything happened in a second with jacks intake of air. Because that is how the pilot started.
That the last shot of the plane is actually what the crash looked like when it crashed, with jack as the only survivor if only for a second. I don’t really like this theory, but…
@Kristen- SERIOUSLY! What was the wreckage at the end!? it’s like they couldn’t just leave us at the church they just HAD to give us some kind of cliffhanger to think about. forever. lol
If you caught a good look at the stained glass window behind Christian in the final scenes in the office, you’d have seen all of the major faiths represented, with one symbol to each pane of glass. I’m pretty sure I saw the Islamic crescent, as well as the yin/yang symbol. No wicca, though.
Kaiser and those confused, I think you need to rewatch the end and see again what Christian says to Jack. He really explains it all pretty well. I was confused at first too, but kept thinking about what he said, and it all began to make sense.
All of the island stuff was real and really happened, they did not all die in the 815 crash, and the whole thing was not Jack’s dream or imagination. Everything we saw, the flashbacks to their lives before 815, everything on the island, the time jumps, the Oceanic 6, the group at Dharma, everything except for the alternate, REALLY happened.
The alternate, I think, was how each character worked out their flaws and found redemption, and found each other. Because there was no time there, as we think of it, they all came together, no matter how or when they all died. By Kate saying she’d missed Jack, I definitely think the Ajira plane made it out, and they went on to lead lives after the island.
I think the wreckage at the end was partly to show that yes, the island stuff was real, but more importantly to sort of remind everyone what these people went through together, and why they were so important and connected to each other.
There were a lot of things I wish we had gotten to see – I do believe Desmond eventually got back to Penny, I believe Claire was reunited with Aaron and Kate helped her raise him, etc. But it’s Lost, and they never show us everything, they’ve always left a lot up to the audience’s imagination.
It was a lot to take in and at first I was very confused, but the more I’ve thought about it, it’s much more clear to me and I really loved it. It was a beautiful show from episode one to the very end.
I feel like I’ve just woken up the morning after a really bad break up and I need some space to process. I really want to call my friends and bitch about what an asshole the ex-boyfriend turned out to be but I still love him a little too much to pick up the phone…
First, I have to agree with Kaiser…WTF?
I have so many thoughts on this finale, but my impression upon seeing the wreckage at the end was they were showing there were no survivors…that was how my husband and I saw it.
Thanks lucy2. Your succinct explanation and summary was just perfect and what I needed to process last night’s finale.
@Tess – The ambiguity of the finale of The Sopranos pissed me off at first and then I came to the conclusion that YOU decide the end. I go with Tony getting shot while some I know go with Tony life goes on a as usual. The brilliance of it was EVERYONE was talking about it and no one will forget it. Though I did read that Gandolfini didn’t like the ending at all.
so glad it’s over!!!
I’m coming to terms with the ending and I think these comments are helping. I do think they survived the crash. Jack wasn’t wearing the same outfit (blue shirt) as he was in the crash (white dress shirt). I assume we got less of Penny bec she’s got a new show. I was surprisingly impressed by the spiritual message of the show, and I don’t feel it was too “religious,” though perhaps we could’ve done without the “Christian” shepherd bit. I too was perplexed by the Sayid/Shannon (and why not Nadia) thing, but maybe I was misreading their connection. I’m most pleased that they featured Vincent at the end. In any case, in spite of the dud episodes (ex: horrible narrative with Allison Janney, horrible wig), I’ll miss this show.
@lucy2: I agree with your summation except that Aaron was a baby in the church. If Kate and Claire went back to raise Aaron, and then they ended up at the church after their long lives, shouldn’t Aaron be represented as an adult, because he would have been there too, since he was born on the island. If everyone remembered themselves or each other the way they knew best, both women would have and entire lifetime of memories with him and probably would have made him look older.
I also don’t get why Michael and Walt weren’t there. I know they got off the island early, but Penny was never there in the first place, so if she got to go to the church, I guess I don’t understand why at least Walt wasn’t there. He tried to reconnect with the Oceanic 6.
I think the reason they went with Sayid/Shannon is because Nadia married Sayid’s brother.
Plus they were trying to stick with “island folk”.
Any answers as to why Ben didn’t go in? Is he not dead?
Seriously, the more I think about the finale, the more confused I get.
Lucy2 has it 100% correct. And Aaron is a baby in the Sideways because it is Claire’s afterlife, not Aaron’s. It was the world HER subconcious created when SHE died. Everything that happened in every scene of every season of the series happened during the character’s lives, EXCEPT the Sideways. That happened AFTER they died, which was at a different time for everyone. And I think Ben felt like he hadn’t atoned for everything he had done in his life to hurt others – he knew he wasn’t yet ready to move on.
Lucy2 and Kolby, I agree with you 100% – what a great ending to a great show!
thank you lucy2! after reading different comment boards about this episode i get the feeling that A LOT of people missed what christian said to jack. he basically summed it all up. it’s frustrating that people seem to be ignoring that.
Hmm. After reading this write-up, I’m glad I stopped watching after the second season. :/
Lucy2 is dead on!
Danielle- my thoughts as to why Ben didn’t go in was that he ‘wasn’t ready yet’ (as was said for Ana Lucia and others we expected to see). Those that did enter were at peace with where things ended, were *redeemed*, and were ready to be with the most important people in the most important time of their lives (whether they survived the island or not). Although Ben did do a lot of good (presumedbly as Hurley’s second hand) he still is grappling with other parts of his sordid past. He isn’t redeemed or hasn’t forgiven himself, or hasn’t made peace with it.
As for why we didn’t get the answers to the technical stuff (the Cave, the purpose of the Island, etc.) –I think the writers saw it as the white noise we all have to overcome. What we really should focus on are the relationships we build. I think that’s why everyone’s flashes were about the connections they made through love and friendship, rather than the memories of Smokey, the donkey wheel, polar bears, etc.
Dorothy: that’s a good take on it
Their heaven/purgatory was set far in the future obviously. The first ep of jack on the plane again started once everyone else had died.
Did anyone else think that Jack would be the big sacrifice so that everyone else could live out their happy endings in the alternate future? Kind of bummed that wasn’t how it turned out.
I had predicted during the first season that they were actually all dead and in some kind of purgatory, since they all seemed fucked up in their various ways, needful of redemption. But then I read something where the producers promised that that wasn’t the case. So I guess they WERE alive, except for in those last alternate futures; those happened when they were dead. But when did they die? As much as you can explain some stuff away, it’s still not clear. Then there’s a bunch of lame assed Christian afterlife stuff if thrown out and makes it all sort of meaningless. I wish they had gone more open-minded with the ending. Like someone else said, I wish I’d just watched the first two hours.
I felt the same letdown watching the finale of Battlestar Galactica, when everything went religious. There was a ballsy show that seemed to be offering something brave and different than the usual, but they sold out in the end, just like Lost. MEH.
The Lost honchos obviously got what they wanted, since everyone is talking and debating about what the finale really means.
That’s what the entire series was always about – personal interpretation of events and what they mean to the individual viewer.
Colour me disapointed.
Christian explained to Jack that the people who were there either all died some before him (Shannon, Boone, Sun Jin and Locke) or long afterwards (meaning Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, and Ben).
So the flash sideways/alt reality was really a purgatory each had created after they died so they could go to the afterlife together.
For series endings that actually make sense and rocked see Angel, Newhart, Six Feet Under, and of course MASH
It’s really frustrating to me that everyone keeps saying that they were dead. They were not dead on island..the island was their real life. Kate did live, we don’t know her life but she did live. Christian told Jack..everyone dies. Some died before him, some died way after him. DUH so that means they got off. Claire got to raise Aaron. Ecerything Keen said is pretty on par.
And about Desmond getting off. I don’t know. Hurley was able to make his own rules now that Jacob was gone. Maybe he died there, or maybe hurley got him off somehow
Just watch it again people. It was really quite profound.
I watched the Jimmy Kimmel aftershow with some of the actors and the actor that played Michael explained that he would remain on the island as one of those voices (a lost soul?)-I think that makes sense because he couldn’t be at peace after what he had done to Ana Lucia and Libby.
Walt wasn’t there because he probably went on to live a full life and wasn’t as connected to the others, so he didn’t need to be reunited with them to move on.
I don’t get how all of it really happened though if they showed the empty wreck at the end?
And also, how do you explain that Jacob got in touch with some of the “candidates” when they were children (like Kate?) Did he somehow “know” how their lives would turn out and that they’d be flawed once they were older?
Yup – everything that happened on the island happened. The flash sideways was a kind of cosmic “waiting room.” Christian explained that they were all waiting to be together because the island was the most important part of their lives. I believe that for the people who weren’t in the church at the end… the island wasn’t their defining moments, the island wasn’t the most important part of their lives. They may have died, or may still be alive, but their afterlife was going to be different by choice. Penny was tied to the island through both Desmond and her father, which is why she was there. For Sayid – Nadia was a woman he loved, but Shannon was the woman who made him realize he was capable of love after Nadia, so the construct of the flash sideways had Nadia married to Sayid’s brother, effectively taking her out of the picture. He loved her, but she wasn’t “the one.” Ben didn’t go because Ben wasn’t ready… and he was the perpetual outsider (not to mention the most beat up man in television history).
As for the wreckage, I think that it was just a scene to bring it all full circle. I thinkit was meant to show where they “came from” symbolically.
The more I think about this episode, the more I liked it. Yes, there were questions that weren’t answered that I would have liked answered, but ultimately, I liked the fate of the Losties.
Lost peaked with the dude being sucked into the plane engine in Ep 1 Ser 1.
The reason why Ben couldn’t go inside was because he didn’t find redemption. He was pretty evil throughout the whole series, and he new how much of an a-hole he was, he didn’t deserve to “go into the light”. I agree with that. So when Locke asks him if he’s coming in, he very well can’t be like “oh i can’t go” he just sort of knew and kept it in.
Basically, they made it up as they went. And the pressure for a good ending got so big, they leaned back on “religion” to explain everything. Similar to BattleStar Galatica finale, however they religion was definitely part of the series all along. LOST, can’t really say (not a regular viewer).
Reading the recap, I happy I never got into the show. However, I am nervous about Fringe because JJ Abrams is a co-creator.. I really hope it doesn’t fall victim to a sloppy ending with time jumps and religion (LOST, Felicity, Alias).
I’m with Cole, I was very disappointed that Michael & Walt weren’t included. I know Malcolm Kelly grew quite a bit during the series but he was important to the Island (I thought) and he had a connection with John Locke!I also wished they had shown Michael & Walt in the flash-sideways. I mean, they’d been there since Season 1, episode 1!
Disappointed.
And sad.
They didn’t died after the first plane crash, their lives did go on on and out of the island during those 3 or 4 years. The alternate reality was a limbo, an out of time and space place where they all meet after their deaths, and no matter when they died, they meet there waiting for each other to go to the other side together. In the meanwhile Ben stays out of the church because he still has something to fix with Alex. Same as the others characters who were not ready to realize where they were (i.e. Ana Lucia) and why.
The meaning of it all is: no matter what you do during your life, no matter your mistakes, desperation, failures. The meaning and the purpose of life is the people you met during the journey.
That’s all folks: religiously cheesy final. Lost didn’t deserve this narrative crash, neither do I.
my friend sent this to me and I think it’s at least worth a read…..
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/05/24/lost-finale-the-ending-explained/
” Their heaven/purgatory was set far in the future obviously. The first ep of jack on the plane again started once everyone else had died.”
Above quoted from Yeah… that really made since to me.
All I know is I stayed up way too late catching up on this show and watching the recap and the last show. I laughed, I sobbed like a baby and also thought “WTF?!”
Parts of it really reminded me of a movie called “Made in Heaven” done in the late 80’s. It is a great movie and worth seeing.
And I also agree “Six Feet Under” was a brilliant ending, and truly one of the best ever done. Lost IMO tried to go that route but tried not to totally copy it.
I have one heck of a “Lost” hangover and need a nap, perhaps it will really sink in later. Because right now, I really feel like I am missing something from it.
My take on those not there – either they couldn’t move on yet because of guilt or other issues, or the time with 815ers was not the most significant of their lives. Walt may have gone on to marry and have his own family, and that’s where his happy end will be. Eko’s place was with his brother.
Though I believe Desmond was able to get back to Penny somehow, even if he didn’t, she WAS there because he was the most important part of her life too.
Danielle – Nadia didn’t really marry Sayid’s brother. The island life was real – she found Sayid when he was part of the Oceanic 6, and they got married, and then she died. Sayid/Shannon at the end was the only one that didn’t sit quite right, because I do think he should have been with Nadia.
I know it was in a church and all, but I didn’t see it as all that religious. It was about love, not God.
I loved the ending! I won’t even bother sharing my theories because I think it’s going to be disappointing to be shut down. The ending was perfect for what I hoped my version of the story was.
@shazza, i think michael was left out of sideways world because he is trapped on the island, one of the whispering voices.
I loved it. Cried all the way through. It wouldn’t be Lost if there weren’t questions we could all discuss. Best show ever.
I’ve been along for the ride, and although I like reading other people’s theories and making my own sometimes, I let storytellers lead it. In sum, I enjoyed the ending. I’m with those that understand that everything that happened on the island was real, and that they connected in the after-life because their relationships on the island was the most significant part of their lives.
Additionally, I second the part about it being about love. At the end of the day, regardless of what religion one follows (if any), we wish to be with ones we’ve loved and lost one last time before we leave this world and, if we so choose, move on.
I definitely expected the finale to disappoint some and to satisfy others, simply because people raise so many questions and expectations. Nonetheless, I don’t think Lost could have ended in an any more satisfying way, and those who are frustrated or confused are those who carry out the best discussion – since they make easily pleased people like me think. 😉 🙂
I never watched the show, but I saw Matt Fox at the Tiger-Dodger’s Game Friday Night. People were all over him about the finale. Hilarious.
If this is PC, you’re taking it too far imho. Don’t forget how many shows are sold to Europe. The money Europeans pay for the shows should be earned, not only taken. Standards should be achieved on a high level, not the lowest possible.
They all survived the original plane crash. Desmond, Penny and Juliet were not on flight 815, but they were in the church. Everything on the island was real. The flash sideways was a state of limbo in which the souls got back together. Maybe Sun was still pregnant and Aaron was a baby because that’s when these individuals were at their best and most fulfilled.
@Lucy2 : I think that this was more about faith than God. Faith can be whatever you believe it to be, and all of the different faiths were represented in the church – the stained glass window as well as the various statues of religious figures. The show always seemed to be more about faith vs. science, with love being a constant.
I really liked the ending after I thought about it for a while and it all started to make some kind of sense.
I thought the finale was emotionally (Sawyer & Juliet, Claire & Charlie all reunited, Yay!), but not intellectually satisfying. They basically threw out all of the science (parallel universes, time travel, electromagneticism)and mysteries (Exactly what was the island you ask? It apparently doesn’t matter) in the end for a cop out of a happy ending. I feel like they insulted the intelligence of all the fans who spent years trying to decode the mysteries of the island (You have questions? Never mind, eveyone’s in heaven, and Vincent was by Jack’s side when he died. It’s all good.) Yes, I did cry. And It was moving to think of everyone transitioning together. But, that doesn’t change the fact that basically most of what we watched during the first few seasons was just filler, that the writers deemed to unimportant to explain in the end. Lost writers I thought you were better than this.
at first i was just asking “what the F***” for a good 1/2 an hour. Pacing the floor, pissed off. (Even though it was an excellent finale before what i thought was a bad ending). I didn’t get it. I thought it would be related to the Bible but not like THAT. And I don’t believe in Heaven/hell so it didn’t provoke any emotion for me. But then i watched the Jimmy Kimmel after show and it made sense- I’m satisfied with it i guess…but still a little confused.
And one of my many questions i have left: STATUE WITH FOUR TOES??? they made too big a deal of that to never answer that mystery…
I can explain one part:
They are all dead but even though we saw the “sideways flash” at the same time as the island activity, they weren’t happening at the same time nor even right after, they were happening in a different time and space, long, long after the island scene where we saw Jack dying, so over time each member of the group died and entered this waiting “space” not really knowing why they were there not even knowing that they were dead and waiting for something/someones, until Desmond who is really the embodiment of the island arrived to join them together (this was the island thank you to the group).
Also, at the end they all left except for Ben who decided the needed work out a few things before moving on.
This is actually either Buddhist or Hindu concept of creating a dimensional space for the soul to meet with loved ones before moving on.
@Harmony,
I think they did answer the statue question in a previous episode, I really don’t remember what was said but it was during a Jacob episode, with that guy who didn’t age. Maybe it’s ancient Babylonian, I thing he had a peace symbol in his hand when he was whole.
I am so mad at myself for wasting so many hours of my life watching this ridiculous show!!I never really liked it but kept watching it because almost everyone was in love with it so I decided to give it a chance.After season 4 I had already spent many hours watching so I was just waiting for the big disappointment!!
I really don’t understand all the people impressed by this show!!The writers disrespected the viewers,they really think we’re all very stupid and they’re laughing their asses off!!!They threw in alot of mysteries and never answered them so the people will get confused and they will be impressed because they don’t know what the hell is going on.Each season was like a totally different show.
A good show is starting mysteries and managing to make some sense!
All you Lost fans were fooled emotionally in the finale with all the lovey dovey relationships that you all confess that you don’t mind having any answers.That was a cheap trick.OMG everyone was crying!!Really???Come on….well now that I think of it I was crying because I felt so stupid and betrayed.I am furious.This is the dumbest show ever!!!I’m so glad it’s over!!
Lost fans you’re all in denial because you don’t want to admit that Lost was a total rip off!!!
I agree that they all survived on the island and came together after they were all dead. I liked the ending and it made me cry.
As for the island, I think the light in the island it the spark of love that we all cary around in us. We have to protect that light because if it goes out the world would be a dark and unhappy place. At least that was my take on the light and the island.
THE LOST ENDING SUCKED !!!! What a cop -out . All you “Lost” lovers are a bunch of pathetic apologists for what was an intellectually bankrupt ending that pretty much negated the entire series and all it’s mysteries. Once again, for the millionth time, we are served up a bunch of pathetic BS Christian mythology as the answer. So everyone basically called this show correctly from the beginning, they are all dead and the island is just some pseudo-purgatory, an explanation that the creators SWORE to us wasn’t going to be the case. Fact is , I think the writers had no clue where they were going with all this , virtually everything you were shown for 6 yrs. were a bunch of red herrings leading nowhere….all to be wrapped up by the most cliche’ , unimaginative explanation of all. Sorry, the writers aren’t brilliant. nor do they deserve Emmy’s, they are hacks that took the easy way out by explaining it all away with pathetic religious mythology.
The ending was sad alright, but not for the reasons most believe, it is sad that in the year 2010 we are still a society of superstitious, pathetic cowards that need to cling to the idea of an afterlife because most lack both the courage and the intellect to accept their own mortality and finality of their own existence, and that their only “redemption” is here on earth by leading a good life with the ONLY life you have, not in “make believe” land in the sky.
That was the least satisfying series finale since they destroyed the ending of “Prison Break”. As far as I’m concerned , Lost was a 6 year “long con” and we were all the dupes, some of us just have the brains to know we were duped, while the rest are on here as cheerleaders for their con-artists.
What happened to Michale and Walt??? they wernt there and therefor it makes no sense what so ever!
I really don’t understand all this rage and flaming of others. It’s tv show, some people like it some don’t. Are your lives so empty that you have the time and need to be that furious because of a series finale? Get a grip!
I think the light was to be considered “The source of life”, “The life Force”,and the it that controls/restricts what ever evil there might be, and as that life force it keeps the world/dimensions anchored. and if it went go out, not only the island would be destroyed but eventually the world, so for the man in black to escape the island he had to put out that light, without thought to the consequences of destroying the world, by removing the Earths source of electro-magnetism, but what he didn’t count on is, that’s where he also gets his power from also, so that’s why he could then be killed.
I understand some people being unhappy with the loose-ends but it was such a complicated show that to tie up the loose ends it would have had be ended in segments over a longer period of time, you just can’t expect all to be answered in a single ending.
Frankly, since “sideways” began I thought it was the timeline that had split after the bomb exploded and caused an alternate existence and that those on the island would eventually die and the timelines would be restored with memories of the island that only the survivors would know of. – stupid me 🙂
You missed the point…in the sideways universe they were all dead, true, but they all dies at different times. The sideways universe doesn’t really exist in a “when”. Eventually, everyone dies and they all eventually ended up in the sideways universe having to work out their stuff before moving on. Ben hadn’t finished that process, which is why he didn’t go into the church.
Everything on the island happened while they were alive (except those that we saw die). They don’t explain what exactly the island is, which I have come to terms with. It actually works for me because if they tried to explain then it would really suck. Basically, they all went to the mysterious island where there was destiny, life and death. The island seems to manage all of those things in ways that we cannot understand completely. We just have to go with it (kind of like vision…I don’t understand exactly how I see but I just go with it). Eventually all of the people from the island die…and their “spirit” or “essence” cannot move on from the alternate universe until they have resolved all of their issues.
59:Sorry I can’t read your name,I totally agree with you.I feel like such a sucker for beleiving that Lost could be phenomenal!It could if the writers used their heads.I would be happy if Lost was 1 season and they didn’t involve all the unsolved mysteries and mixed it up so much that they became totally lost!!!They could have focused on the stuff they were trying to say on season 6 and everybody would be happy.Especially all the fans who were so happy with the finale that they cried because everybody found their other half.C’mon people..Really???That’s what Lost was all about???
61:The rage is for our lost time and for hoping to see good television.
Instead we were tricked badly.We have an opinion and don’t eat everything they serve us!
Get real people… It sucked… those who don’t think so: you are just trying to compensate 6 year’s of dumbness…
Michael? Walt? Mr. Ecko? The polar bear?? What about the numbers? What was their significance? Why on earth did Jacob go across the sea to find candidates? He could have just gone to “the others” to find some candidates and saved a whole heap of trouble, right?
Ah this is why I wait until shows end and decide if they’re worth watching.
apart from six feet under, and mad men. I could never get in to Lost.
Well, now we know: if a show starts being sucky and frustrating and pointlessly confusing in Season 2, stop watching! (“Fast Forward”, I’ve quit you already.) It ain’t gonna get better.
I think Lost would have died off 3-4 years ago, except for the Internets, which turned it into an online water cooler show. The show wasn’t all that much fun, but discussing it with fellow minutiae-minded nerdlingers sure was! (Especially you, Best Week Ever.)
Nice recap here. And thanks for expressing my inchoate aggravation better than I could. I was right about the whole thing being stupid, pointless and haphazard and no one would listen to me (and the spouse made me keep watching the show)!
My summation
The Island was real, It was the most important thing that ever happened to them, and was their redemption. The Island holds maybe the last little bit of magic on this earth, passed down from Jacobs mother to him to Jack to Hugo for who knows how long before or after. The Em field was an analogy/manifestation to explain the golden light that is magic/life.
The last episode everyone is already dead, its probably 100 years in the future. Maybe more, who knows how long Hugo served. Kate got off the island, maybe served life in prison, Aaron grew old and died. Time has no meaning in the sideways/afterlife. Their souls were just waiting to get back together. While they wait they live the life they thought they wanted. Jacks a doctor with a son who loves him, Sawyers a cop looking for justice, Kate’s running from a guilt she feels, Clair is starting over pregnant again with her baby, ect..
Some of the people could be there at the end, some could not. Walt was a kid when he played his role, now hes a grown assed man. He could not play Walt and without Walt there was no need for Micheal. No way to write that in. No one else really connected with the main characters and were therefore not important to them moving on.
If the island was purgatory how do you explain Ben and Juliet at the end? The Island was real and it called these broken people Jacob had scouted and offered them a chance at some type of salvation.
ps, not a religious guy, I was a little disappointed with the ending being a church and golden light, but i get the symbology.
Melina, it’s like when you spend a LOT of money that you worked long and hard to earn, on something you really want -ei: a pilates reformer machine or a trip to Bali that you hope will save your marriage – only to find out, that after all those months of sacrificing and saving, the pilates machine does NOT get rid of cellulite and the Bali resort is a filthy, roach-infested, MOTEL that actually puts the nail in coffin of the marriage.
The only difference is that with Lost you can’t take the producers to small-claims court for false advertising to recoup compensatory damages and get back all those hours you wasted. Hours watching, processing and hypothesizing about the (now obviously RANDOMLY manufactured) details and mysteries that seemed to be such important threads of the show. Ha.
When i first saw the pilot i thought, ‘Wow. Now THAT’s ambitious. I doubt they have a plan for all this, but it will be cool if they do.’ So, I stuck with it figuring they MUST know what they’re doing…why else the massive budget and huge hype.
And then it kept building. year after year after year. all the details and mystery-building that we ALL expected to be solved (or at least acknowledged) down the road, even if secretly, in the most private corners of our souls, we knew they were probably pulling this shit out of their asses.
yup. And now WE are left with the wreckage.
The producers are saying a DVD will eventually come out and give answers and explain what constituted…I don’t know, like half the actual content of the shows. A deferred DVD – clever way to buy some time while they think of some answers that will appease the what-will-by-then-be-angry-masses. Cause like someone said (furious maybe?), all you “cryers” are trying to salvage a way out of not being profoundly disappointed and down-right pissed-off. Self-preservation. A natural reaction.
But the finale-honeymoon and endorphine-rush of the LOVE-is-a-drug-like-ending won’t last forever. And then the anger will set in, and it won’t be pretty.
I don’t know…maybe I just need to get a grip.
So happy I never once wasted the precious hours of my life watching this formula Hollywood drama with requisite tearjerker ending. To anyone who did… Suckers!
70.Trixy?Can’t see your name.
Cheers,you couldn’t have said it better!!That’s exactly how I felt when I first saw the pilot and all the reactions after were the same..
Lost is and will be the biggest scam in television history.Maybe it was a test to see how stupid Tv viewers are?How much they can be brainwashed to beleive that something is good just because they say so.Like governments test people.Well at least that’s how I feel.Like a lab mouse,they managed to brainwash me and make me beleive in something I doubted from day one but I kept watching in hope of a good explanation in the end.Lost is like our politicians full of bullshit!!
Here’s a video about brainwashing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cslmAciJi00
I realize some didn’t like the ending, and that’s fine, but why is it a “scam”? I loved the whole show, and was thoroughly entertained by it for 6 years. That’s what a TV show is supposed to do, I don’t know what more people want from it.
Here’s a question – even if a show, for example the Sopranos, has a bad ending, does that take away the entertainment you got from it for years?
Furious, you may not understand those who liked it, but I can’t understand why someone would watch a show for 6 years that they never even liked. Once a show, even one I really liked, is no longer enjoyable, I stop watching. The idea of just waiting to be disappointed is not appealing to me when it comes to entertainment.
jenl1125, I think you’re right with your comment about faith, I like how you said that.
Lucy, I think the difference between a show like the Sopranos and LOST is that Soprano’s didn’t take the viewers on a FALSE journey, of sorts. (Even IF the Lost finale was satisfying in a visceral way, which personally, I agree with #59/Mike(?) and think it’s kind of lame that they fell back on spiritual elements to both resolve plot AND deliver the requisite weight and resonance that was pretty much REQUIRED.) But the main beef I have has less to do with the execution of the finale, per se, and is more about the fact that it was the last chance to make all those (now-rendered-meaningless ‘red herrings’) have had meaning. over all that time.
Much of the appeal of this show was anchored in the assumption that all those threads that were interwoven along the way actually meant something.
And now, it’s just the sinking realization/confirmation that the producers/writers never really had this thing mapped out. Most people watched, assuming there was rhyme or reason to all those details; And if we’re to be honest, we would admit that that’s WHY it was entertaining. (Can something become retro-actively UN-entertaining? That’s kind of how I feel about it).
A lot of people stopped watching a few years ago because they ‘lost’ faith that the writers ever really did have a plan with all the mystery stuff they kept incorporating and building shows around. Sadly, I was not one of them.
Live and learn,
Trixy
jacks dad was at the end just to prove that everybody was dead as he said, along with himself as he was all the way through the show. but no matter which way u look at it or how badly u want to undertand it, the last season was nothing to do with the first. they had to end it somehow,, they must of survived the first plane crash because they didnt know each other to create another world(heaven i assume), in the first place, but then if thats true who created the island and the mayan temples along with the light which looked man made, someone didnt think bout the ending very well and wanted to leave it more to peoples imaginations.
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I waited four years to watch this final season. No resolve, no actual end… touching yet, unresolved. If you have a good run on a show…end it with triumph!
Leaving it open for viewer speculation is fine… then do not ever bring it back.Best sc fi show ending=Quantam Leap-that is what have been done!