Bristol Palin: “I’m not accusing Levi of date rape or rape at all”

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A short while ago, every media outlet got selected excerpts from Bristol Palin’s new memoir, and the excerpts began a national conversation about rape, surprisingly. In her memoir, Bristol discusses how she lost her virginity when she was 17 years old, blackout drunk on a camping trip with Levi Johnston (her boyfriend at the time), with other friends. Bristol’s story was basically that she got blackout drunk on wine coolers, doesn’t remember a huge chunk of time, and when she woke up in the morning, her virginity was no more and Levi told her that they had done it (Bristol claims they both agreed to wait until they were married).

When I covered this, my immediate reaction was sympathy towards Bristol, because in my youth, I had a few nights where I was blackout drunk and doing dumb stuff too. It happens, and it sucks, and if Bristol is telling the truth, it’s a horrible way to lose your virginity. The problem, however, is that Bristol – and the Family Palin – doesn’t have the best relationship with The Truth, and while Bristol might have been telling a version of what happened, I also thought that she was probably just trying to tell a version in which her responsibility was taken away in a wine cooler haze. I also think it’s tricky when you’re talking about blackout drunks – for all we know, Levi could have been blackout drunk as well, or Bristol could have given her consent, and Levi simply didn’t know how far gone she was, etc. There were extenuating circumstances which I thought were obvious, which is why the scandal surrounding Bristol’s story was confusing to me. Some claimed Bristol was saying, in a round-about way, that she was date-raped by Levi. I understand that position (but disagree) – and if you’d like to read a well-written piece about Bristol and the “shades of grey” re: date rape, go here to Pajiba.

Anyway, Bristol has a new interview with Good Morning America today. The first question she fields is about the story of her losing her virginity, and Bristol says that while she feels like her virginity was “stolen”, she’s not accusing Levi of rape: “That’s what it felt like. I’m not accusing Levi of date rape or rape at all. But I am looking back with the adult eyes I have now and that was a foolish decision. I should have never been underage drinking, and I should have never gotten myself into a situation like that.” Here’s the video:

Ugh. So… Bristol says it’s not rape, and she does seem to take responsibility for putting herself in that situation. Which… is what a lot of rape victims do too. “If only I hadn’t invited him in… if only I hadn’t been drinking…” After seeing her explain it, I do tend to think she’s carrying around some pain about all of the crap that went down with Levi.

Oh, and “I’m not an abstinence preacher… I think if you want to prevent teenage pregnancy, that’s the only option.” And then she goes on to talk about how she was on The Pill. For the love of God. I have little sympathy for that part of Bristol Palin – the part of her that shills abstinence when she was on The Pill, couldn’t be bothered to take it correctly, had sex, got pregnant, had more sex, and still profits from the abstinence message. That part is BS.

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  1. OtherChris says:

    She’s an idiot. I guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

  2. Kelly says:

    I dunno… he looks pretty rape-y to me. Weird that she wrote it that way in a book and said it in all those interviews, and then majorly back-pedaled. If she stuck to her guns, I’d imagine there might be legal ramifications; and the Palins sure do shy from actual scrutiny.

  3. katnip says:

    I don’t like her and she spins just like her mother. When I first heard the story my mind went to her accusing him in a round about way of taking advantage. And all I thought about was their son. When he grew up and read that account of how he came into the world. Second I recalled how she and her family called him a famewhore, wanting to profit on this happening. Well, well, well..look who has their face plastered on every tv show they can find. Not Levi.. but Bristol. She has rode this horse a lot longer and harder than he. And she got away with it because she was the girl and had the baby.

  4. bunny says:

    Looks like she is using the same playbook as Mommy.

  5. mln76 says:

    It’s really hard to judge this situation. I mean it’s possible she’s telling the truth. It’s possible they were both drunk and she was active in ‘doing the deed’ but doesn’t remember, or that it was a ‘date rape’. The only person I feel bad for is her son.

  6. tiki says:

    5-4-3-2-1. let the palin bashing begin. because, you know, we were ALL responsible teen-agers who NEVER said/did stupid things which we now regret. nor were any of us stupid twenty-somethings who said/did stupid things we now regret. not a palin supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but tired of the hypocritical standards applied to her and her offspring.

  7. luls says:

    She’s a nice girl… but unfortunately she picked up her 2-faced tendencies from her mother.

  8. Quest says:

    She did alot of crap and is now using the drunk innocent story to get sympathy…I do not believe you Bristol, you lied before and will continue with your lying deceitful ways to milk this to the end

  9. malachais says:

    Why does Bristol think she is so much of a role model? Who is feeding her ego? When I watch/read her interviews, she comes off whiny and majorly stuck in the past. I think she would come off more respectable if she would MOVE ON and stop trying to feed her son with all of this “I regret-this/that constant Levi-crap-talking PR nonsense.

  10. P.J. says:

    Sex sells. Bristol is trying to sell her book, and she wants to make as much money as possible. This is what the Palin family is all about — getting rich.

    The Palins have never let the truth get in the way of a good story. So Bristol, whose sole accomplishment in life so far is getting pregnant, has nothing substantive to say, so she makes up a story about the sexual act that led to her pregnancy. Without this, no one would be interested in her or her book, and she wouldn’t make any money. She decided to trash her ex so she could make a pile of cash.

  11. AngelMay says:

    Anybody who believes her story is a damn fool. Girl, you were riding that thing like a rodeo every chance you got. Admit it.

    This is not a fragile girl who would pass out from wine coolers. Please.

  12. mln76 says:

    @tiki what other teenagers with no education ends up making millions off of their ‘mistakes’??? That’s why she gets bashed.

  13. Chloe says:

    Okay, I’ll say it just once. I dislike this person immensely and I think she and her mother are full of BS but IF she’s telling the truth about being unconscious when it happened, I feel sorry for her.

    My definition of rape is rather unforgiving: it is what happens where there is no clear consent and it does not have to include assault (being drunk means you are *unable* to give consent – vide, the NY cops case, and yes, it also means that wives can be raped by their husbands, and that a women cannot *invite* rape). I usually try to avoid sweeping generalizations but, uh, if you’re not sure if you were given consent, simply don’t insert your body parts into someone else’s body. Both men and women should be educated about that as early as possible.

    I hope that our culture understands it one day or at least that it becomes the subject of a serious public debate. If you read the reports of organizations dealing with the issue, the scale of sexual abuse and violence against women is simply terrifying, even in cultures that like to see themselves as enlightened and ‘civilized.’

  14. constance says:

    haha. Spineless. She won’t take responsibility for her words, her actions, or her existence in the media.

  15. Deb says:

    Tiki,
    Yes, we all did stupid things as teenagers, but one big difference is that we didn’t write a book about it. She chose to discuss a topic that should be private. It is fair game for people to talk about her “version” which is exactly what it is – one side of the story. And at that, a story seems to have a few holes in it. If nothing else, wonder why no one is asking why parents would allow a young girl to go on an overnight camping trip. Frankly, sounds like Bristol is willing to throw Levi under the bus to sell books.

  16. mln76 says:

    @Chloe blacking out isn’t the same as passing out. It only happened to me once on my 21st birthday but I have expierienced it. I’ve also known people who it’s happened to. You can lose time when you drink excessively … I just don’t know how drunk you can get on wine coolers though.

  17. Lucinda says:

    I think it’s easy to forget how young she still is and how she’s getting advice from her family about how to approach these things. She is doing what she has been trained to do. Unfortunately, this will most likely continue.

  18. Chloe says:

    @mln 76
    Thanks for pointing that out. I’m not a native speaker so these things elude me sometimes.

    Depressing nonetheless.

  19. tapioca says:

    So she got drunk and her boyfriend got overly frisky, or it lowered her inhibitions to the point that biology overrode a premarital abstinence agreement? (Which happens – to “good” girls and bad!)

    What I don’t understand it what the heck she’s doing writing about it. Either:

    a). She didn’t give consent and it was rape, in which case it’s a matter for the police, not the general public because one day their kid is going to hear about it; or
    b). She did give consent and is pointing fingers at wine coolers and Levi’s insatiable desire to try and present herself as a innocent-angel-corrupted, in which case it’s still not a matter for the general public because one day their kid is going to hear about it.

  20. MarenGermany says:

    No no no, I do not believe her at all. I have huge sympathy for rape victims and they should not be dragged into the public to discuss this further but she is lying.

    She had a youth like most of us had, I guess. Underage drinking, parties, fun, maybe smoking pot, and yes, sex, of course.
    All of a sudden she finds herself in a postion that she has to defend her lifestyle because she is the daughter of someone more or less important (which is not her fault, most of us are not in that situation).

    But still, use condoms, get on the pill, is it so hard NOT to get pregnant? I am “active” for more than ten years now, and I never ever got pregnant. Something wrong with me???

  21. werty says:

    Yeah im gonna agree with Chloe on this one.
    And thats one thing i cant forget about the covering of julian assange allegded rape(s). one of the girls said she invited him home had sex with him and went to sleep, and woke up by him having/starting to have sex with her. If your asleep you cant consent.
    And if you passed out or had so much to drink that your not aware what youre doing its not consentual.
    But if you dont remember consenting or not theres not much you can do (unless its obvius whtvr that means)in terms of the law(=its hard to prove anything that will end with a guilty verdic).

  22. MarenGermany says:

    Since we discuss it, let me be open
    (this is the cool thing about being anonymous on the internet)
    it happened to me.
    I blacked out and I was soooo drunk.
    I remember opening my eyes a couple of times and trying to fight the guy who was inside of me, in vain, he was way too strong.
    This was traumatizing, but still…
    I cant help myself, I dont feel like a rape victim concerning this, because I really had way too much to drink, so I end up blaming it on myself, which kaiser pointed out correctly, is a common mistake among rape victims.

    Has something like that ever happened to any of you? I am just curious, because I think it happens to more girls than one would think.

  23. N.D. says:

    @Chloe She didn’t claim she was unconscious only that she doesn’t remember anything/much.

  24. Kali099 says:

    I had a similar experience my first time, 15 very drunk…..bf 16 almost as drunk….things went further then our sober selves would have, he actually apologised to me. I told him it wasn’t needed, I was sad that my first time wasn’t what I had hoped it would be….but I never blamed him. We BOTH made a poor decision, we dated for 2 years after that and are still close friends. I hope that Levi stands up for himself(if he is not guilty) two drunk teenagers in a tent is never a good combo, but to be labled a date rapist(if he is not) is unfair and someday he will have to answer to his son…..it’s all very sad.

  25. mln76 says:

    @Chloe and reading your comment further. I just think it’s unrealistic that no drunk woman can ever give consent. I would say that 95 % of women have happily had consentual sex while drunk. And if both parties are drunk I don’t think somehow the man has more responsibility. This is not to say that there aren’t clear cases where women have been date raped or clearly taken advantage of do to her state of drunkeness. But I find your definition kind of insulting.

    EDIT:Kali099 great comment!

  26. Danny says:

    Tiki @6, you got it right. “We hate her mother so therefore we also hate Bristol.”

    Ah, the reasoned tolerance of the liberal. Weird how the name “Palin” makes the head of some explode.

  27. fabgrrl says:

    Totally not accusing him of rape. At all. All she said was that her virginity was “stolen” (by him) and that the sex was non-consensual. But she never used the word “rape”, so if anyone makes that association, well, that’s just not her fault. Right?

  28. Wendy City says:

    The thing is when you lie about part of the story, you lose your credibility with the ENTIRE story. I don’t call BS on the part about the pill and not the rest of it. BS on all of it.

    This is about her trying to white wash the whole event and come out smelling like a rose. So you were drunk AND having premarital sex and that puts you in a position to get paid 10K a speech…right. Im not buying.

  29. Theuth says:

    I don’t think people here (on in other site) are against rape victim/date rape/think there are situations where rape can be justified (…seriously, I hope not).
    People are actually doubting Briston Palin because she lied in the past and her family (herself included) has a story of blaming others of their problems. This so called “revelation” looks more like her camp is trying to gain sympathy with some wank than the truth…which probably was more like they both where drunk, what little judgment they had was gone and they realised after the mistake.
    Regarding birth control and contraception, she’s just stupid. Bristol, using condoms and pill works, IF you do it correctly!

  30. lilred says:

    Yes, getting drunk,blacking out and having sex those things did happen but now it’s time to take RESPONSIBILITY for her own actions.

  31. Katie says:

    I am having a pretty hard time with this. My first reaction when I read the excerpt from her book was that is sounded like rape to me, or at least like it could have been. She doesn’t really make it clear if she was basically passed or what, or if she even knows. I do think this story works well with image she trys to portray for herself, so that even the decision to have sex can no longer be blamed on her. But if it is true, she’s doing a disservice to other women by not calling it what it is: rape. I’m not sure if your average person (especially male) considers it to be rape to have sex with a girl who is clearly incredibly drunk. I’m not even sure if every state defines that as rape, although I read in the newspaper yesterday that in Alaska it would be considered rape. Does it excuse the guy any if he was also super drunk and therefore not able to make the best decision? I’m really bothered by this whole thing and my own inability to even figure out what I think about it.

  32. Praise St. Angie! says:

    “We hate her mother so therefore we also hate Bristol.”

    sorry Danny and tiki, that’s not the logic here at all. I think most of us on here can differentiate between a political figure we dislike and a family member. case in point: I really dislike Dubya as a president, but his wife is pretty much ok with me. her name being “Bush” isn’t an automatic “dislike” for me.

    for Bristol Palin, she’s given us ample opportunity to dislike HER for what she herself has done.

    what did she become famous for? she was the knocked up not married teenage daughter of a very socially conservative VP candidate that preached abstinence. THAT is why she became a household name.

    I had nothing against her at that point…I felt sorry for her, because her mother used her as part of her campaign strategy. not her fault.

    further, she spoke honestly about how “abstinence-only programs don’t work”. I respected her for being realistic and not parroting her mother’s close-minded stance on birth control and sex-ed.

    until she apparently realized how much money she could make at speaking engagements preaching abstinence. because of her famous (conservative) name.

    meanwhile she and her mother would tell anyone who would listen about what a fame-whore her baby’s father was.

    since then, she has done just about everything to stay in the spotlight. a book, dancing with the stars, and an upcoming reality show.

    why people hate her is not because her name is Palin, it’s because of her behavior, her hypocrisy, her vague accusations and tendency to PLAY THE VICTIM…in that way she is JUST like her mother.

  33. Chloe says:

    @mln76

    Actually, I’ve been thinking about it since I posted the comment. My initial reaction to sexual abuse is usually very strong, as too many instances of it go unpunished but I agree that the question of consent while intoxicated is damn complicated (and very hard to argue for/against in court.)

    I know and of course agree that people have consensual sex while drunk, and that sometimes alcohol overrides their usual instincts, and sometimes they plainly don’t remember consenting. It wasn’t my intention to insult anyone, and if I did I apologize. Sexual abuse – when it actually happens – sickens me, so I might have over reacted.

  34. KJ says:

    The thing that bothers me about this discussion is the idea that if you have sex while drunk and don’t remember it, it’s rape. I understand that consent needs to be given, and I’ve been fortunate enough never to have been forced into anything with another man. But a few years ago during undergrad, I was at a party with an acquaintance I thought was very very attractive. And we both we having fun, but drinking very heavily together. The last thing I remembered before waking up next to him was flirtation and making out, then heading to my apartment. According to a lot of people, that constitutes rape. Sober or drunk, I would’ve hit that thing until the end of time. I was very attracted to him, and never once felt uncomfortable once we both woke up the next morning. He was a great guy who would’ve never done anything if he knew I was in any way uncomfortable. So should I start feeling raped now? The media coverage of this is really troublesome to me because it implies that a woman can’t enjoy sex or want it in a very round about way. She had to have been raped because she blacked out. She may not have given consent, or she could have been completely game. I just hate that society is still trying to tell women whether or not they’ve been raped. If Bristol felt violated, then yes, it IS rape. But that’s for HER to decide. We shouldn’t be telling women that they’re slutty and deserved it, nor should we be telling them they should feel violated. Either way, it’s taking away her autonomy and her capacity to make her own decisions about her own body.

  35. Danny says:

    Praise St. Angie!, LOL.

  36. KJ says:

    And to those who think her last name is what makes people hate her, I’m sure that’s the case for a lot of people. But for most people, reasonable people, it’s because she’s a liar and pushes an agenda (abstinence only) that does nothing to curb the very problem she was apart of – teenage pregnancy. Ignoring something doesn’t make it go away, and you cant make an informed decision about sex if you have no information other than “don’t do it.” It’s hypocritical and quite frankly dangerous for teens who find themselves in similar circumstances.

    That’s why she sucks. The fact that her mother is a moron isn’t something she has control of, but she does have control over her own stances and platforms, and in my opinion she’s using her notoriety poorly.

  37. the original bellaluna says:

    @ Praise St. Angie – Nail; head: you’ve hit it! Co-sign.

  38. Az says:

    What I really think happened here is that she is trying to absolve herself of the blame for having premarital sex. She’s not going to admit that she wanted to get laid because she had the hots for Levi so she went ahead and banged him. But if she did it while she was drunk and “doesn’t remember” then it’s really “not her fault”. Which, by the way, is bullshit. I’d have more respect for her if she had actually gone ahead and said, “You know what? I was a teenager, I was hot for the guy and I banged him”. Which is most likely what actually happened.

  39. mln76 says:

    @Chloe no apologies it’s a complicated issue. KJ gave a great example that a drunk person can consent. In some cases people need ‘liquid courage’ to be more aggressive(EDIT:bad choice of words lets say open with their feelings). On the other hand whether or not MarenGermany feels differently I do consider her’s a story of rape-Ironically to outsiders the situations may have looked exactly the same.
    Bristol didn’t give enough information for people to tell what exactly happened. And with all the other evasiveness and untruths from her family it’s easy to see that she’d have the motivation for lying-even as I hate to disparage a woman with this issue. Also it’s not as if I think Levi is incapable of date rape.

  40. DSMR says:

    Continually playing the victim, only harbours the feeling of inadequacy. The Palin family are epitome of victims be it from the “lame stream media” or countless others who choose to openly critique the lack of intelligence they so proudly present as wholesomeness and virtue. Being held accountable is a major weakness for those who play the deceptive victim. Now you know why the Palins never answer unscripted questions asked. 🙂

  41. original kate says:

    no matter what bristol does her face still looks like a canned ham.

  42. ZenB says:

    @tiki plugging abstinence and sex until marriage makes the Palins look pretty darned hypocritical – so yes, let the Palin bashing begin. The official Palin stance does not allow for stupid teenage mistakes. Although, her not being able to use the Pill properly is really stupid. Her feeling taking advantage of and her virginity stolen yet her continuing to see him is stupid and no I don’t see it as rape either just bad judgement but if it made her uncomfortable then maybe he is not “the one”.

  43. stella says:

    She’s backtracking because Levi was going to sue her for defamation of character.

  44. Kelly says:

    I agree with @stella. and @original kate.

    Also, does anyone find the paid ads on this page to be completely hilarious? I rarely notice, but “Lolita” caught my eye, followed by “criminal history.”

  45. Isa says:

    Re: the wine coolers- When I was 17 and had little experience with alcohol I could get VERY drunk off of them. The first night I met my husband I had FOUR and he was holding me out of my own puke. I have a low tolerance anyway…he still makes fun of me for it.

  46. Amanda G says:

    It drives me crazy how PC she tries to be now. “I should have never been underage drinking.” Oh shut up.

    I’m betting that she’s lying about the whole thing. She was probably drinking and wanted to hook up. What’s so bad about saying that? Probably 75% of women lose their virginity that way. But nooo, she has to lie and be super PC because we all look to her for guidance and advice…haha

  47. jc126 says:

    She is still trying to absolve herself of responsibility, and was surprised there was backlash when she basically accused someone of date rape. FFS, she has a 2 year old kid, OWN the fact you liked and wanted to sleep with his father. Don’t blame underage drinking, and don’t lie and say you were on birth control – OWN IT.

  48. Crittle says:

    Honestly, there isn’t enough information for me to speculate what actually happened. What she’s saying could be true, or it could be ambiguous enough to for people to come to their own conclusions even if their wrong, or she could be lying. Why would you want to share something like this when you’re so young and not so far removed from the situation? I don’t think its an effective cautionary tale, if that was her goal, seeing how she ‘profited’ from it all. And she wanted to marry this guy…twice!

  49. Grftr says:

    I’m not saying Levi raped me, I’m just saying I was drunk and Levi raped me.

    She is her mother’s daughter, that’s for sure. I feel sorry for her. Why even put this in the book? If you have been raped then go to the police. Not the media.

    Can’t wait to see Levi’s book.

  50. Grftr says:

    During the campaign there was much talk that Levi had actually been living at the Palin house, in Bristol’s room, with Sarah’s knowledge and consent. Has anyone ever asked Bristol about this?

  51. Grftr says:

    I think one day Bristol will be sorry for letting her pit viper of a mother drive the love of her life away.

  52. P.J. says:

    Why put this incident in the book? Because she’s trying to sell books! Her description of the incident is just vague enough to stir controversy. What do you bet this book will wind up as a best seller?

  53. Grftr says:

    Not Afraid of Lies

  54. TaylorB says:

    I have to say that the language she has and continues to use is tip toeing a VERY fine line.

    I don’t know what exactly she is intending to say or what actually happened, none of us really do as we weren’t there… however she opened a big can of worms intentionally or not. At this point I can only assume that her ghost writer and publisher are total morons there is no way they couldn’t have seen the utter sh*t storm this kind of ambiguous language was going to stir up. Sure it sells books, but I would be willing to bet all those sales $$$ are about to be paid out in legal fees.

    Veiled accusations and/or very poorly worded comments can ruin lives in situations like this. There are a couple of old sayings that leap to mind when it comes to this situation, first, “you can not unring a bell” and second, “mean what you say and say what you mean”.

  55. cory says:

    Here is the Alaska state law on sexual assault/rape:
    Alaska Statutes. Title 11. Criminal Law Chapter 41. Offenses Against the Person Article 4. Sexual Offenses Sec. 11.41.420. SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE SECOND DEGREE. (a) An offender commits the crime of sexual assault in the second degree if (1) the offender engages in sexual contact with another person without consent of that person; (2) the offender engages in sexual contact with a person (A) who the offender knows is mentally incapable; and (B) who is entrusted to the offender’s care (i) by authority of law; or (ii) in a facility or program that is required by law to be licensed by the Department of Health and Social Services; (3) the offender engages in sexual penetration with a person who the offender knows is (A) mentally incapable; (B) incapacitated; or (C) unaware that a sexual act is being committed; or (4) the offender engages in sexual contact with a person who the offender knows is unaware that a sexual act is being committed and (A) the offender is a health care worker; and (B) the offense takes place during the course of professional treatment of the victim. (b) Sexual assault in the second degree is a class B felony.

    Under Alaska state law (part 3), what Bristol Palin describes as happening when she lost her virginity to Levi Johnston qualifies as rape.

  56. Trillion says:

    What Praise St. Angie said…
    Danny: I don’t get what “tolerance” has to do with this. Are liberals expected to be tolerant of lying, grifting, hypocrites or something? Your attempt at some dig is a total miss-fire.

  57. eternalcanadian says:

    Wow, way to not take responsibility for being drunk. No one held a gun to Bristol’s head and forced her to drink how ever many wine coolers she had. And it is not like she wasn’t already shagging Levi. She was on the Pill for freak’s sake. She got caught(condom broke, no Plan B, forgot to take the Pill, whatever it was) and two years later is still trying to make herself look better and all that crap, but she’s making things worse for both her and the public image of the drunk sexual assault victim. She’s one sorry, pathetic mess right now as is her family (still can’t believe the daft things her mother continues to spew out).

  58. Catherine says:

    As with her mother, Bristol needs to shut up too.

  59. The real Jenny says:

    Does anyone else feel terrible for their kid, who will one day grow up and read his mom’s book only to learn he was the product of a blackout drunk “mistake”? Ugh. What a load for a kid to carry….

  60. Kimberly says:

    black out from wine coolers?

    hahahahahahahaha

    loser

  61. original kate says:

    “She’s backtracking because Levi was going to sue her for defamation of character.”

    this.

  62. Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

    Not accusing anyone of anything, just implying it, hmm? How magmanimous of her.

  63. cutelittlehappything says:

    And no one has commented on how hideous the newscaster’s necklaced is.

  64. Mtn Girl says:

    @61 original kate – Exactly!

    Any sympathy I had for this lying twit has evaporated. There were plenty of pics of Bristol and her friends, smoking and drinking Jack Daniels and other types of liquor that are a lot harder than wine coolers when Sarah was first picked as McCain’s running mate, so I find it highly doubtful Levi’s peen fell into her poor, unprotected crotch after a bout of wrassling with wine coolers on a camping trip.

    Word to Bristol: just because you’ve had plastic surgery does not mean you have *adult eyes* all of a sudden!

  65. oh hey says:

    tiki and Danny committed message board rape by concern trolling and not responding.

  66. Crystalline says:

    I’m surprised Levi hasn’t been jumping all over this. He usually is the first to respond on Palin-related business, but maybe he thinks he’s going to get to address it in his book, which is silly because this window is quickly passing.

    As for Bristol, I don’t want to pass judgement. I remember being a teen and being raped by my boyfriend, which was an incredibly confusing experience. I imagine she has a difficult time reconciling because, yes, teenagers have urges and she was drinking, so she feels a lot of blame and her family’s conservative stance probably doesn’t help (mine sure didn’t). Also, she has a child with him. I imagine things are strained as it is, there’s no way she’d be able to handle dealing with him if she remembered everytime she spoke to him that he raped her.

    That is assuming this story is true. Her not wanting to call it rape either means she’s not ready to (or willing to call it that, which is totally fine) or it just didn’t go down like this. Knowing the family, this may be her trying to walk a fine line of not being responsible, while not being sued.

  67. april says:

    She’s still capitalzing on her 15 min. of fame. Can you really get black-out drunk on wine coolers? How stupid do the Palins think we are?

  68. A- says:

    MarenGermany:
    June 27th, 2011 at 11:23 am:

    Yes, what you describe is rape. There is no question. I am very very sorry that it happened to you and I hope you are okay.

  69. dj says:

    MarenGermany:
    If no consent was given then it is sexual assault/rape. Consent can only be given if you are sober to give it. Same goes for if someone gives you a date rape drug. Yes, unfortunately, I had a similar situation happen to me. Please talk to a therapist who specializes in sexual assaults. It is not your fault. I am sorry it happened to you. Thank you for being so brave to share your story. This happens so often and as women we often blame ourselves.

  70. Nikki Girl says:

    @Praise St. Angie! and DSMR: Well said. Couldn’t agree more.

    And in DSMR’s words: “The Palin family are epitome of victims be it from the “lame stream media” or countless others who choose to openly critique the lack of intelligence they so proudly present as wholesomeness and virtue.” Damn straight.

  71. Nikki Girl says:

    Another interesting fact: a good friend of mine lives in Anchorage. Before Sarah Palin ran for VP, he said she was actually a far more moderate Republican and was generally well-liked in Alaska. Even my Alaskan friend, who is gay and liberal, liked her. It was only when she starting running for VP that she all of the sudden started preaching a whole bunch of right-wing, ultra-conservative beliefs and many people in Alaska were surprised. This essentially proves just how hypocritical and dishonest she is.

    I personally think she single-handedly tanked the GOP’s run at the Presidency, because McCain is actually more of a moderate Republican and had some decent ideas. But Palin just swooped in embarrassed the GOP all over the place. And though there are many people who love her (I have no idea why), I think there are enough intelligent people in this country to realize that having her as Vice President is just a bad idea. I would absolutely love for a woman to be the President or VP of this country. But I’d prefer to hold out for an intelligent, well-informed woman.

    Sorry for getting off-track! As for Bristol, I had no problem with her in the beginning, but now I just think she’s a moron who is basically exploiting herself.

  72. Hakura says:

    She made a bad choice in words using the term ‘stolen. Stolen implies that it was taken from her against her will, which is why everyone started throwing around the word ‘rape’, & looking negatively at Levi.

    She may be accepting her mistakes in this interview, but should have been more careful before… & the birth control thing is total BS. It’s called ‘responsibly taking the pill’ *&* using a condom. While it’s true that abstinence is the only 100% method, you can get pretty damn close if you’re not too drunk to think.

  73. Str8Shooter says:

    What exactly is this girl famous for, other than getting KNOCKED UP and being a dumb twat like her mother?

  74. whatafy says:

    Nice girl, too bad that she was influenced by her mother in a bad way..