Don’t even ask me what Miley Cyrus is wearing. I have no idea. At first I was going to claim that this kind of ensemble was popular when I was a kid, but I don’t even think I can justify it as “dated”. These are some of the ugliest cutoffs I’ve ever seen, and Miley has paired them with a bustier, a flannel shirt (unbuttoned) and a pair of cowboy boots. Dear God. She really has no casual style. I’m guessing that the fug shorts might be medical, though – Miley recently “cracked” her tailbone – no joke – “doing a front flip onto the couch.” I don’t even know.
In other Miley news, she wrote an essay for Glamour Mag all about her “All LOVE is equal” tattoo, and why she’s all for gay marriage. She’s talked about her support of gay marriage before, but still – I respect her for sticking with a cause, and for whole-heartedly supporting an issue that’s seen as so “controversial”. Here’s her essay:
Imagine finding someone you love more than anything in the world, who you would risk your life for but couldn’t marry. And you couldn’t have that special day the way your friends do—you know, wear the ring on your finger and have it mean the same thing as everybody else. Just put yourself in that person’s shoes. It makes me feel sick to my stomach.
When I shared a picture of my tattoo on my Twitter page and said, “All LOVE is equal,” a lot of people mocked me—they said, “What happened to you? You used to be a Christian girl!” And I said, “Well, if you were a true Christian, you would have your facts straight. Christianity is about love.” The debate resulted in a lot of threats and hate mail to people who agreed and disagreed with me. At one point I had to say, “Dude, everyone lay off.”
Can’t people have friendly debates about sensitive topics without it turning into unnecessary threats?
I believe every American should be allowed the same rights and civil liberties. Without legalized same-sex marriage, most of the time you cannot share the same health benefits, you are not considered next of kin and you are not granted the same securities as a heterosexual couple. How is this different than having someone sit in the back of the bus because of their skin color?
One day I read online about the head of Urban Outfitters donating to a presidential candidate who does not support equality for everyone. I was shocked and disappointed that a company with such diversity would exclude such a large group of people. I can no longer bring myself to shop there.
We all should be tolerant of one another and embrace our differences. My dad [country singer Billy Ray Cyrus], who is a real man’s man, lives on the farm and is as Southern and straight as they come. He loves my gay friends and even supports same-sex marriage. If my father can do it, anyone can.
This is America, the nation of dreams. We’re so proud of that. And yet certain people are excluded. It’s just not right.
It’s not particularly well-reasoned and it’s not some overwhelming political treatise, but Miley’s still out there and talking about it. I’ve really grown to like her more and more over the past year – her political conscience is growing, and she’s so much more low-key. I hope she keeps it up. I also hope she burns these cutoffs in a spiritually cleansing fire.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
She’s trying to bring back the 90’s grunge era!
It’s Red-neck Chic y’all! Absolutely Timeless. Snort of derision here.
That or she’s trying to channel the fuggery of Chloe Sevigny. Isn’t this exactly Chloe’s brand of bad outfitry?
not to be a nitpicker, but those are motorcycle boots. They don’t help the outfit, though!
They’re not cowboy boots. They’re biker boots. Either way, they don’t really go with shorts.
As for her essay, for the magazine it’s in, I can accept that it’s not well reasoned. She isn’t an academic. But she gets the point across.
Those are Frye engineer boots. Her outfit is not good but she is just a young one trying various looks. Her guy is fine.
she is not my favorite person but I agree that EVERYONE should be considered equal and have all the same rights. especially marriage. marriage is a commitment to the one person you want to love forever. I couldn’t imagine not being able to have that right. I would go crazy. it’s very unfair. I see no difference between same sex marriages and traditional marriages. everyone loves the person they wanna marry. everyone wants to devote the rest of their lives to each other. I’ll never understand. the gay community are filled with people with the same qualities as straight people. do they not feel love? pain? stress? do they not have hearts? walk on two legs? have no brains? do their insides and outsides look or perform so different that they need to be shunned and denied right of marriage? I don’t think so. they’re people just like everyone else and should be entitled to marriage. it’s not like they’re asking to be president. they just wanna show they’re love for one another. since when was love a crime punishable by denial of rights? this world is messed up. they promote teen pregnancy yet deny gay marriage wtf is the point of that?
Well said!
If only it were this easy. You’ll likely find that most opponents of gay marriage don’t oppose gays as a group. It’s live-and-let-live. America is a free country; love whomever you want. The real problem is with the implications of the law.
If same-sex marriage becomes a right, things get messy. Private citizens who oppose homosexual unions (being opposed is their 1st amendment right), could be forced to participate in or facilitate homosexual marriage ceremonies because of the expansion of non-discrimination laws. Because marriages are religious ceremonies, you’ve got a nasty conflict of government and belief.
Then take away the priest’s ability to sign and authroize the secular. Marriage license. The very fact a priest can be a notarary is a violation of the separation of church and state anyway.
If you want the legal recognition, go to the courts and sign the paper. Make the religious ceremony separate.
I hate trying to type on my phone :p
It’s not about a priest’s (or minister or Imam) signing of the certificate. It’s about the ability to refuse to participate in the ceremony. First amendment trumps.
No, they wouldn’t. No more than the Roman Catholic church is required to marry divorced couples, or the Mormon church has to marry people who don’t belong to their religion. (Hint: neither of them are required to do so and usually/often don’t).
Same-sex marriage would not infringe in the least on religious rights; on the other hand, conservatives keep using religion as a basis for laws to crush lgbt+ people’s civil rights and – honestly? Being told I mustn’t be allowed to marry if I end up with another woman* because – gaaasp – someday, sometime, somewhere, someone might, possibly, could hypothetically have to marry a hell-bound sexual deviant like me even if they think we’re all really icky? That I won’t be granted the same rights I would be if I partnered with a dude – that she could be dying in a hospital and I wouldn’t be allowed to visit her, might not be able to adopt a child with her, would always be thought of as ‘less-than’ in the eyes of the government – because of a theoretical situation that, given the sway the religious right holds in this country and the general tendency of the courts and the legislatures to keep out of religious institutions and let them do their things, seems unlikely at best? That is really quite fucking annoying. To put it lightly.
/rant
*I’m bi. I currently have a (same-sex) girlfriend.
Marriage in the eyes of the law should be completely seperate from religion. I’m married. We didn’t have a religious ceremony. The judge that married us thinks there’s no just reason why laws should restrict the marriage of same-sex couples.
I just don’t see how arguing to “protect” someone’s freedom of religion is valid way of denying rights to a group of people. It’s blatant descrimination if one group of people’s interests are placed over another, it’s that simple.
It’s rediculous that religion gets to dictate what the non-religious do. Remember, whites and blacks coupldn’t marry because many people in the religious community didn’t believe in that, either.
Although the church I used to attend is very welcoming of gays, has female and gay priests and has performed commitment ceremonies for same-sex couples. I’m in WA, so hopefufully they will be performing legal marriages soon!
That was really sweet! She does come across as a nice, fun person.
I was expecting to read some pseudo religious reasons why gays shouldnt have equal rights so imagine my pleasant surprise. Of course, if she wants to make it in Hollywood she needs to watch the pink mafia, but still is a brave thing to do. Go Miley!
I find it interesting that she called out the head of Urban Outfitters for giving to a cause that doesn’t support gay marriage. I’m not sure what she means by “head”, but the CEO of UO, Glen Senk, is gay and married to Keith Johnson (the head buyer for Anthropologie). If he’s giving to causes that don’t support gay marriage, than his hypocrisy must know no bounds.
She’s referring to the co-founder and current president/chairman, Richard Hayne, who has donated large sums to anti-gay politicians like Rick Santorum.
Also, this: http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/2008/12/urban_outfitters_yanks_same-se.html
Am I the only one who think she looks great? Im not fan, having never heard her music, but I live in London and the 90s are definitely back around here. I only wish I had the legs for those shorts…
Really?? Raging, MASSIVE camel toe looks great??
Fashion in the US is usually a few seasons behind the UK. I don’t think the 90’s are back there yet, although I’ve been back in the UK a year now, so could be off on that.
The outfit reminds me of Daisy Duke.Everything old is new again.
Yup, back in a big way. Everyone hanging out in front of Topshop looks exactly like this. The funny thing is I remember it the first time around lol.
I do not see how the United States government can not allow gay marriage on a constitutional level. Equal rights is equal rights. Now churches are a different thing…the government should be blind to race, religion, sexual orientation, sex, etc. and if two people (of legal age, of course) go to a courthouse, then they should be allowed to marry. However, churches have the right to their own doctrine in deciding who is allowed to marry in their religion. Anyway, that is my opinion…On another note…that outfit is all kinds of wrong…
It’s the separation of Church and State that the U.S. has been having a lot of trouble with, different interpretations, applied whenever it suits one wing or the other.
I’m thinking you are Canadian Lucy? Canada, no matter it’s present conservative primary, has always been able to separate legally matters of Church and State.
Not so with the U.S. unfortunately. There are too many contradictions in American politics to see clearly. Just look how it is that “Catholic/Religious” right-wing thinking are applied in matters of abortion, gay marriage, and race/gender equality. And yet, at the same time, they keep on pushing their American Amendment for the “right” to bare arms. The weapon responsible for a very anti-Christian behavior: murder, and hatred.
That is why our Founding Fathers, had insisted on separating all religious matters and interpretations from any governing laws. So the United States of America, could truly become the Land of the Free. Yet the right wing’s disturbed “Christian values” keep on being shoved down our throats, with growing hypocrisy, and rewriting history AND SCIENCE!!!
Science used to be the pride and joy of Americans, where they excelled with breakthrough discoveries, and were grand and world-renowned Universities like Harvard opened their doors to persecuted scientists, so they not only keep on doing their ground-breaking researches, in all things Science, but to also teach the future leaders of this Country.
Too bad what is happening in America right now. It reminds me of many Middle-Eastern, and Far-Eastern countries who were reputed for their openness and search for genius, but are now war-torn and under extreme religious persecution.
God save us from organized-religious hatred and persecution.
I agree with you, Originalone, and it makes me sad that it has come to this 😥
@originalone: Oh my, I do not mean to get pedantic on you, but I read your quote “right to bare arms” and all but peed my pants giggling. I know full well you meant “bear arms” but the mental imagery that popped in my head when I read it was just too funny.
With regard to your sentiment on the hypocrisy in selection of issues, I could not agree more. 🙂
@irishserra, wow, remind me not to watch Spartacus while writing. All I can think of is a lot of sexy bare arms… among other things 😉
Thanks for the correction chica!
1992 is over, someone should tell her.
The 90s are back full swing and I’m ready for it.
Me too!! Have you seen Portlandia? I just discovered it and have watched a few episodes, but I find it hilarious and nostalgic.
definitely! i’m buying into all the 90s fashion, hell i even listened to bjork, portishead and massive attack the other day <3
Wow! Mom jeans transformed into cut-offs!
But seriously, who even wears a bustier EVER, anymore?
They are actually very “in” right now
I think she’s just trying to capture a gay fan base.
Good for her but can we stop drawing parallels between gay rights and civil rights? There ARE several similarities. However, gay people were never slaves, nor were they forced to eat in separate restaurants, made to ride in the back of the bus etc. When my friend went to interview for her job, no one knew she was gay. However, when my mom was interviewed for her job, it was quite obvious that she’s Latina. No one should be judged for either. However, I think it does both gay people and minorities an injustice when comparisons are being drawn. Both have struggled similarly, but their struggles are not the same.
I am all for gay rights, but you are correct, the parallel to civil rights is very insulting.
I also wanted to add that this particular topic of conversation came up for me personally when a friend joked about having to tone down his personality for a job interview because he knew he could hide being gay, but there was no way he could hide being black. I really hadn’t thought about it that way until he said it. Anyway, that being said, good for her. I think she really believes in the cause and I’m sure the gay community doesn’t mind the support from a high profile person.
Well the gays were discriminated, tortured, and burned for centuries, the last tragical example was during the II world war, in the Nazi Camps were imprisoned and killed thousands (but we don’t know the correct number) of homosexuals.
As bad as that was, (and it was evil), it has nothing to do with USA civil rights.
To bring Nazis into the conversation evokes Godwins Law, which is never helps.
@Elenor, African Americans were the largest portion of the American population that was kept in bondage, and even after their freedom was granted, it took 100 years before their rights as American citizens were protected. Starting in the 1600s, American colonists brought Africans to the colonies in order to serve as labor. In 1789, it was written into the constitution that African Americans would be counted in the census as three-fifths of a person. They suffered horribly in slavery, with families being separated, being whipped, and humiliated. Even after the 13th amendment (which ended slavery) and the 14th amendment (which guaranteed rights to all American citizens) and the 15 th (which guaranteed the right to vote regardless of race or previous condition of servitude), African Americans were still oppressed. They were denied access to establishments, couldn’t mingle or share public spaces, and generally could not enjoy life as white people could. It wasn’t until the civil rights package in 1965 that African Americans had protection written in law against discriminatory things like the Jim Crowe laws. Still, it took another 43 years before America would elect its first black president, And the country is STILL home to groups like the Klu Klux Klan.
There have been recorded examples of homosexuality since the Roman empire. It was actually a common and accepted practice, until Christianity arrived in Rome and replaced the original pagan religion. Since that time, homosexuality has been condemned, from murders during the Spanish Inquisition to murders during the Holocaust, to modern day murders of members of the glbtqi community. In the November 4, 2008 election, four states passed ballot initiatives that restricted marriage to men and woman, and in Arkansas, restricted glbtqi parents from adopting children. The only two states that currently allow same sex marriage (as of November 2008) are Massachusetts and Connecticut. Under that same 14th amendment that failed to protect the African American community, everyone is guaranteed equal protection; however there are currently very few laws in place protecting gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders, queers and intersex people, and no federal laws.
I’m certainly NOT trying to define one oppression as “worse” or “better” than another kind, I’m merely trying to say that they’re different and that you’re doing both movements an injustice when you compare the two.
Mort – I understand where you’re coming from. I look at the gay rights movements as the modern day black civil rights movement. No, they weren’t enslaved but they were still beaten, lynched and are denied of basic rights even today. It baffles me that some people want to outlaw gay marriage. Why is it any of their bussiness? I don’t think they are that different. They are both groups of people who have an unbelieveable amount of hatred directed towards them.
Also, I don’t think we’re comparing gays to Blacks. We’re comparing irrational bigoted hatred to irrational bigoted hatred. Hate is the same no matter who you aim it at.
Equal right and opportunity for all!
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Exactly, equality is for all.
@asli, i know you aren’t comparing the two movements but I feel like Miley is when she writes “How is this different than having someone sit in the back of the bus because of their skin color?”
The fact is, it is different. I feel like the civil rights movement and women’s suffrage paved the way for The LGBTQ community to assert themselves. Also, those speaking up against gay marriage are almost always right wing but jobs that, the majority of us know, shouldn’t be taken seriously. Mainstream support for such hateful ideology isn’t as great as it was in the past. Which also makes drawing a comparison between the two somewhat incongruous.
@Mort – I completely agree with you there.
I’m sorry but I have to disagree that we can’t the lack of equal rights and protections for gays to those the civil rights movement in the US fought for. While, yes, there are some different challenges to those not afforded the same rights based on outward appearance vs those who are (or were) not afforded those rights based on other traits but who may seem to look like your generic white person. The civil rights movement did not fight solely for equal rights based on color – the fight was, ostensibly, on treating all humans as the human beings they were. The “you shouldn’t liken the gay rights movement to the civil rights movement” because blacks were slaves claims comes directly from black religious leaders who are all too willing to go from a family history of being oppressed to demanding they be allowed to oppress others – often based on similar religious ideology used to declare blacks as something less than fully human.
Unintentional though it may be, you are feeding into their dissociation with reason and somehow allowing them to say ‘it’s not as bad to withhold rights to people who can “pass” by pretending to be just like us as it is to target those who can’t or refuse to “pass”. It’s the principle of the matter and the civil rights movement was about the very principle of equal rights and protections for all human beings regardless not only of those things that are obvious like race but also for those things detractors think people can and should change like sexual orientation and religion.
Hear, hear!
Race and sexuality are not the same thing. Apples and oranges.
I agree this is not a contest in suffering, but I still believe what Dr. King said:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
So depriving anybody the right to have a family and marry their life’s love based on their membership in one group or another opens us ALL up to these arbitrary losses of freedom. I say this as someone who had a biracial marriage — something that was illegal during my own childhood!
@morticiansdoitbetter
…. so? i think you are making a moot point and i can’t decide whether or not you are simply trying to say that gay issues are “less important” or that homosexuals have “struggled less” than ethnic or african-american people as your connotation would appear to suggest. i hope that you are not, however just in case you are, i will go ahead and set you straight (no pun). yes, the issues are obviously very, very different; it is moronic to point out something that obvious when its even more obvious that the parallels drawn between them are to liken that the modern struggle for gay rights and the 50’s, 60’s struggle for civil rights is one of such unquestionably unfair prejudice that now, just as then, it is difficult to see how it could be considered in any way acceptable. furthermore, i believe that both of the aforementioned groups of people have struggled equally, but in very different ways. i can only make one more assumption and that is that you are of an ethnic or african-american background and thus hold strong emotion about this matter, which i can appreciate, however the bottom line is that I agree that people should stop drawing on similarities between the two issues. the difference is that i only think they should stop doing this because in really isn’t about black people and we don’t have to make EVERY ISSUE about blacks or whites, DO WE?! for once lets let the issue be about something other than how african-americans have struggled. glad we can agree. oh and that goes for any of the rest of the posters for this thread who feel the need to hoist black issues higher than those of everyone and everything else (especially gay rights): stop detracting from and degrading the gay rights movement to highlight an unrelated problem.
You took the words right out of my damn mouth! You can keep your sexuality (and sex business) private but you can never hide your skin color. That’s what made blacks the easier target – back then, it was hard to tell which person was a homosexual unless they told them or get caught in the act.
The only similarity they have is that it is based on stupid rationalities and hate. That is where the line is drawn.
People compare suffering all the time. It is perfectly natural way to ask people to empathize with experiences they have not had. It is only a problem when one says “my suffering was worse than yours” because then it really misses the whole point to finding common ground in our humanity. I feel sorrow for the pain we humans put other humans through, let alone the savagery with which we treat our planet and wildlife.
First I’d like to say that I appreciate how thoughtfully everyone has made their point. So thanks everyone for the kind responses.
@Txmom, beautifully said.
@Judyjudyjudy, well put. That’s what I was trying to get at when I said comparing the two movements ends up doing both a great disservice. It inevitably becomes a competition of who had it worse. Which is why it’s best for a movement to simply ask for support from those groups who have been persecuted in the past without pointing out how their suffering was the same.
@Jham, not sure how my point is moot and I’m somewhat disturbed that you feel I’m degrading the gay rights movement because i feel the two movements are dissimilar (even though you admit to the same). Simply put I’m saying that 1.women’s suffrage and the civil rights movement paved the way for the gay rights movement. Had these two movements not been successful, the LGBTQ community would have far greater trouble being heard. 2. Also, (as I said up thread),mainstream support for hateful ideology isn’t as great as it was in the past. Which also makes drawing a comparison between the two somewhat incongruous. I realize you’re accusing me of doing so, however (as I also said unthread) I’m certainly NOT trying to define one oppression as “worse” or “better” than another kind, I’m merely trying to say that they’re different and that you’re doing both movements an injustice when you compare the two. As I said above, it was my friend who said his sexuality (gay) wasn’t as obvious to his potential employer as the color of his skin. It was HIS opinion (as a gay black man) that his race made him less likely to be hired than his sexuality (which wasn’t as apparent as his skin color). As he says, he is first and foremost black and gay second. His sexuality doesn’t define him in the way that his ethnicity does. That’s his reality, and his perception has really changed my outlook on the issue.
I understand what you and others are trying to say but it’s not about trying to say what you think is worse. It’s just a matter of keeping it real and in perspective. Even the majority of gay black people I know or come across when this topic comes up in a mixed audience will be, “like no, we don’t play those types of comparisons.”
For me it isn’t the same. It’s nowhere near the same. And while I’m not like the gay advocate guru, i do believe they have the right to LEGALLY marry (the religious shit is just another topic). Seriously, FEDS! Make it legal so gays can be as unhappily married as everyone else and we can focus on shit more important than who is sticking what where.
But the struggle is not the same and I do get offended. Because while Rock Hudson was strolling around well known to be gay in Hollywood and everyone keeping his secret as he went on to claim his white male privilege, Carol Channing knew she could never tell anyone that she was partially black, keeping that secret for eighty years well after it was more acceptable to be biracial.
Honestly, black civil rights leaders talked a good a game about equality, but many of them were not speaking about homosexuality. Many black people who are Christian take their Christianity seriously, excluding Hollywood peoples because I honestly believe you can’t work in Hollyweird and practice some types of faiths without compromising. A lot of this has to do with slavery in itself and the deep scar left psychologically on the mentality of the black psyche. While there is a big myth that all Africans didn’t know about Christianity until they became colonised (stupid logic), the truth is when the religion was forced on them over here and they eventually assimilated on their own accord, they clung to the faith not just because they found hope in the scriptures, but after being told repeatedly that they were ignorant, stupid, and evil by nature becoming “pure” and holy became almost an obsession. And not just because they believed it but because as we gained our freedoms there was also the realisation that while white people could commit all kinds of sins under the “Christian” banner and “get away” with it, the same pardoning would not be given to blacks. With everything, it was like he as had to be the best Christians, the best employee, the best everything times ten for the “good” of the people and just to get ahead. And sometimes being too good could also mean your death.
So “abominations” like homosexuality and even to some extent fornication was a big no no. Blacks Christians in those times were way less wishy washy than than they are now and definitely less than their white counterparts. So while I’m sure MLK wanted justice for all, the to think that most black people were including gays in their scope of “human” rights is erroneous.
Even today, homosexuality is scorned in the community and many people won’t come right out and say it, but they think it’s just another “white man’s evil”. (Seriously it gets deep as hell!) I am not agreeing or disagreeing with this, I’m just telling you how many people think these things. I’ve heard this thinking across the diaspora. And folk get really bitter when these two movements are compared because they feel like there is no comparison.
Again, I’m not speaking for every single person, but just from what I’ve learned growing as a black woman with grandparents and parents who lived through these times.
Morticiansdoit, I agree with you.
Not very well-reasoned but she gets the point across. I interpret the Bible as meaning marriage is between ONE man and ONE woman meaning there should only be two people in the marriage. It could just as easily be ONE man and ONE man or ONE woman and ONE woman.
Disclaimer: I don’t mind people who practice polygamy. This world is for everyone not just a small group of people who think; ”it’s their way or the highway”. Teach tolerance and acceptance!
This is MY personal opinion. No one have to agree with me so please don’t post rude replies.
Agreed.
If 5 constenting non related adults want to get married to each who I am I to judge.
Each to their own.
Any shorts that give a slim 18 year woman cameltoe should be burned.
LOL-I agree!
I dont really care who is allowed to get married. If any couple “degrades the sanctity of marriage” heterosexual marriage has by and large done that quite handily on it’s own.
However, in a country that allows for a living breathing human being to be brutally murdered in her mothers womb up to and including the day of her birth, there will not be full equality. There is no excuse for taking innocent human life. (Yes, babies breath amniotic fluid in utero. It is a critical part of development. ) And yes, I also oppose the death penalty.
Girl, while I don’t 100% agree with your abortion stance, I do appreciate that at least your argument is defined within a sphere of logic and reason and that your moral stance is streamlined. Too many people pick and choose what causes to support and don’t understand why. At least it sounds like you do.
FYI – third-trimester abortion is hardly legal anywhere in the US (I personally am not aware of anyplace where it is legal), and late second-trimester abortion is quite rare and usually motivated by catastrophic birth defects.
I know a couple who ended a pregnancy at 22 weeks when they discovered their son’s spine hadn’t closed. He was paralyzed from the chest down and his brain had been pulled down through the opening in his back, so that he was microcephalic. They felt ending the pregnancy was a parenting decision for their son, who wasn’t likely to survive the pregnancy, much less birth. They lived in one of the largest cities in the US, Chicago, and there were only three providers who performed this procedure, all of whom were out of town. One returned early from her vacation to help them out and do the procedure before week 24, when it would no longer be legal. It isn’t like this is a widely performed or lightly considered option.
All abortions are tragic and morally troubling, I just wanted to throw some facts into the fray.
Haha, wow.
Thanks for taking a break from the Susan B. Komen facebook page long enough to comment on Celebitchy.
It’s nice to see someone who was raised in a conservative Christian family come out in support of gay marriage, even if that person is Miley Cyrus. I never understood why Christians got up in arms about gay marriage. Even if they are gung-ho about their beliefs what business is it of theirs if someone doesn’t want to be saved or if someone commits a “mortal sin” such as being gay? From a moral standpoint I never understood the hatred or how it affected these Christians I also don’t understand how we can legally deny anyone the right to marry. Everyone deserves the same liberty, we cannot pick and choose what liberties we dole out and to whom.
Have to face criticism for my beliefs, but while it is true that Christians (those who claim Christ as Lord) are to be loving and kind to everyone – “what you do to the least of these people you do for me”….it’s very clear that homosexuality is immoral. Not going to apologize for my beliefs, know I’m going to get pounced upon, but that comes with the territory (As a Christian I face discrimination , too, but not as badly as world-wide); yet it’s important for followers of Christ to stand up for what’s clear and true.
You can believe homosexuality is immoral. That’s your prerogative. The problem is when “Christians” try to force their beliefs on other people and dictate what is wrong and right from their point of view. Those people need to learn that there are other point of views and ways to live life. What YOU think is “clear and true” might mean the complete opposite to others. I say, everyone is equal.
agree
I’m not going to knock your beliefs at all. I think EVERYONE deserves tolerance. I have to ask you something though. What consequence or business is it of yours if someone is acting immorally or if they are homosexual when you obviously are not? Forgive me if I sound gruff in my questioning, it is not my intention, I am just genuinely curious what compels you to speak out against the actions of others.
Even if you are right, if you know you are right then why care if someone else is acting against your moral beliefs? If you are comfortable in being right then why do sinners even matter? I personally look at the Bible as advice, it is not something to be taken too literally but as a book to help those everyone on this planet be able to get along. I would follow the advice of “Love thy enemy and love thy neighbor” over the story of Soddam. It is not my place to condemn anyone.
I’m interested to know what descriminations you face as a Christian in the US?
Just to say, whether anyone likes it or not, God loves everyone. EVERYONE. However, everyone will face judgement – EVERYONE, and God doesn’t only judge people (Every knee show bow, every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord; whether one believes it or not) – he judges cultures/nations….over and over in the Scriptures, and he gives warnings to nations…Soddom was a real place, and the citizens did and lived a lot like we do today. We are called to warn our nations, but rarely do people concede to this belief. I don’t judge anyone personally; I only go by what the Bible says specifically. If it says in scripture that it’s immoral, then it is. Doesn’t mean I have to judge immoral people; I just try to live by what I believe and others can make their own choice, but I don’t have to agree with it silently; I can point out what I believe because I’m called to…
Miley Cyrus is not my hero or anything, but I am pleased that someone is reminding the world that Christianity, the very tool people use to fight against marriage equality, is a religion defined by the phrases “love thy neighbor” and “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” More Christians need to speak about the love and tolerance aspects of their religion, rather than allowing people to use it as a tool of hate. So Yay Miley!
That’s what I think. I am currently being raised by a very conservative christian dad (who doesn’t believe in gay marriage) and a somewhat liberal mom. Yes, the Bible is clear on homosexuality. But the Bible also says that you are to love your enemies, love everyone as yourself. If two people want to get married,and they’re not hurting anyone than they should. I don’t see how gays getting married is making a mockery of marriage. Heterosexuals have already done that. For me personally, I don’t care if you’re gay, and I can see why you would want to get married. If you don’t want gays to get married, then I don’t think you should take the benefits that come from the government from being married (taxes, etc). Yes, this country was founded on Christian values- the right to choose whether or not to agree or believe in something. Christians need to remember that not everyone believes like them.
If my body looked like that…those are the last outfits I would think about putting on.
I read this on a comment on Jezebel yesterday and it really hits it home for me:
“I think that’s what depresses me most about the people who oppose gay marraige. They’re literally just making other people unhappy with no real benefit to themselves. That’s it. It’s purely mean-spirited and expressly negative towards other people. It’s just cruel. It’s really, really cruel.”
Oh please for the love of God as Plato said in the republic Opinions without knowledge are all ugly; Right, Miley, now the theologian and moral philosopher. Rights talk has been so eviserated it can be applied to anything; there are no knock down arguments for or against gay marriage (which I support by the way), Asli, argument by analogy is always tenuous; the black civil rights movement and the gay rights movement are qualitatively different. Back to this hick if she had opposed gay marriage she would have been excoriated, but she takes a prog stance and all her talentless famewhoring, and the millions she,Disney, and her management team made peddling crap to the masses is overlooked. With very few exceptions, todays celebutards, esp. the teens/twenties can’t go to the 7-11 without assistance. I take my guidance from scholars, academics, intellectuals, not fading Disney products. And this isn’t about freedom of speech, I’m waiting for her analysis of the Arab spring in an upcoming issue of Atlantic Monthly; is this her way of fighting irrelevancy.
She wasn’t claiming to try to teach you or tell you how to live your life. She isasking for marriage equality. Calm down lady, no need to get all hot and bothered because a 19 year old is trying to be more fair and open hearted than most of our politicians.
They may be different but the goal, nevertheless, is the same. Equality. It isn’t a contest of who suffered the most. In that case who would win? The Jews? The Blacks? The Native Americans? Suffering is the same everywhere and to have your rights taken away, as if you are wrong/dirty/unworthy, hurts, no matter who you are.
Yes, it is.
I think she looks good! High waisters are in i’m sorry to say. Me like.
Good for her.
She might not be the brightest bulb, but she’s obviously done some thinking and has her heart in the right place. Every voice of reason is useful, even Miley’s.
Look, I don’t expect much from Miley but, while I’m glad she’s saying something to support gay rights, I just wish she didn’t seem to think it was about weddings, saying/showing you’re married or even being about being in love. There are hundreds of rights and privileges conferred by the mere act of obtaining a valid marriage license from the state.
Those who fight against the state issuing marriage licenses to gay couples or complain about “teh gay” seem to often bring the focus on how gay people have sex and weddings. It’s a diversion to minimize what they’re standing in the way of.
she certainly doesn’t present a whole lot of well-reasoned arguments or information, but she did mention that there were rights that go along with marriage that are being denied to LGBTQ people.
‘Without legalized same-sex marriage, most of the time you cannot share the same health benefits, you are not considered next of kin and you are not granted the same securities as a heterosexual couple. ‘ (wow, I never thought I would re-post a quote by Miley Cyrus)
Anyways, I think that’s a hugely important point and it was a significant motivating factor for why my wife and I got married in the first place. So I’m glad you brought it up and I’m glad Miley mentioned it, even if she didn’t say much.
Stupid puffy chipmunk…she’s at that unbearable age where teens think they know every fogging thing. Grow up, chipmunk, stop bonging and banging to allow your brain some needed oxygen and then…jump off the highest cliff. stupid chipmunk!!!!!! or better yet: learn to dress and get hairbrush!!!! you’re not saying nothing new, this is nothing that we grown ups haven’t already heard. Geez! who asked for her 50 cents, anyway?
So, she actually knows how to write? Wow! go to college and get some education, kid!
Better yet: Mullet dad will home school you!
Oh, and you need some orthopedic shoes really bad! them feet lean to the inside too much, fixing your warped limbs should be a priority before dressing like a stripper. I’ve never seen a stripper with two bad feet.
Please eat a STFU sandwich Miley.
You hear her mouth and WISH someone would fill it with some food or something. You wanna be a “go with” girl then be a Buddhist. Geez!
What is she wearing, Could you have at least put a descent picture of her since her essay is on a more serious matter…LOL!
What crack head Bible is she reading??
I personally had no idea she could write. I mean, with real cipherin’ and all.
Just to clarify a couple of things, and I’m not trying to start anything or shove my beliefs down anyone’s throat. I am a Christian, I believe that Jesus is the son of God, and I am a saved person. I am not perfect, I slip and stumble just like everyone else. I do believe that homosexuality goes against God’s Word. I do NOT, however, hate anyone who is living that lifestyle. If I tell them what I believe, it is out of love – I would like to see everyone be saved and have the assurance of Heaven. It is not my place to judge them, to condemn them, or to force them to change; that is between them and God. I can’t save anyone. All I can do is share my thoughts and prayers with them, and be there for them if they need me. Trust me, a TRUE Christian will NOT be accusatory towards gays, drug addicts, criminals, etc. I know you’ve all heard of “hate the sin, love the sinner”, but a TRUE Christian will stand by that. God doesn’t hate homosexual people, and it is only because He loves us all so much that He hates the sins we commit (“we” meaning ALL humans!). 😀