Woody Allen out with his daughters: creepy or normal loving dad?


Yesterday we ran the story that Woody Allen’s only biological son, Ronan Farrow, had tweeted a happy Father’s Day message in which he quipped “or, as they call it in my family, happy brother-in-law’s day.” Ronan’s mom, Woody’s ex partner Mia Farrow, then retweeted the message, adding “Boom.” I thought that might be the end of my interest in this story, because I don’t want to think too hard about Woody grooming one of Mia’s adopted children for his own purposes. (Woody’s wife Soon Yi Previn is now 41, but she was barely legal when she started “dating” Woody, who was a father figure to her by some accounts. Kaiser wants me to point out that they didn’t live together, though, and that Soon Yi was never his daughter, legally or otherwise.) Then someone posted a link to this Vanity Fair article from 1992, which I couldn’t put down, all eight pages of it. If you have some time to kill, it’s fascinating. As many of you mentioned it makes me concerned for Woody’s current daughters, adopted with Soon-Yi and pictured here.

Some hold the opinion that Mia accused Woody of sexually abusing their seven year-old adopted daughter together, Dylan, at the time of their breakup because she was hurt and outraged that he had taken up with barely legal Soon-Yi right under her nose. There have been accusations that Mia coached Dylan to claim that Woody abused her. The case against Woody in this Vanity Fair article is convincing. It’s of course only one side of the story, and Woody was ultimately not convicted of abusing Dylan. Given his behavior with Soon-Yi, I didn’t find this other story hard to believe. Here’s part of the article, which I would recommend you read in full if you’re interested in this case. (Note that “Satchel” is Ronan Farrow’s given name.)

Calling attention to someone’s birthday-party behavior may seem trivial at best. However, Dr. Coates, who just happened to be in Mia’s apartment to work with one of her other children, had only to witness a brief greeting between Woody and Dylan before she began a discussion with Mia that resulted in Woody’s agreeing to address the issue through counseling. At that point Coates didn’t know that, according to several sources, Woody, wearing just underwear, would take Dylan to bed with him and entwine his body around hers; or that he would have her suck his thumb; or that often when Dylan went over to his apartment he would head straight for the bedroom with her so that they could get into bed and play. He called Mia a “spoilsport” when she objected to what she referred to as “wooing.” Mia has told people that he said that her concerns were her own sickness, and that he was just being warm. For a long time, Mia backed down. Her love for Woody had always been mixed with fear. He could reduce her to a pulp when he gave vent to his temper, but she was also in awe of him, because he always presented himself as “a morally superior person.”

One summer day in Connecticut, when Dylan was four and Woody was applying suntan lotion to her nude body, he alarmed Mia’s mother, actress Maureen O’Sullivan, and sister Tisa Farrow when he began rubbing his finger in the crack between her buttocks. Mia grabbed the lotion out of his hand, and O’Sullivan asked, “How do you want to be remembered by your children?” “As a good father,” Woody answered. “Well, that’s interesting,” O’Sullivan replied. “It only lasted a few seconds, but it was definitely weird,” says Tisa Farrow.

On August 4, Woody was in Connecticut to visit the children, and Mia and Casey went shopping, taking along Mia’s two most recently adopted children—a blind Vietnamese girl named Tam, 11, and Isaiah, a seven-month-old black baby born to a crack-addicted mother. While they were gone, there was a brief period, perhaps 15 minutes, when Woody and Dylan vanished from sight. The baby-sitter who was inside searched high and low for them through the cluttered old farmhouse, but she couldn’t find them. The outside baby-sitter, after a look at the grounds around the house, concluded the two must be inside somewhere. When Mia got home a short time later, Dylan and Woody were outside, and Dylan didn’t have any underpants on. (Allen later said that he had not been alone with Dylan. He refused to submit hair and fingerprint samples to the Connecticut state police or to cooperate unless he was assured that nothing he said would be used against him.) Woody, who hated the country and reportedly brought his own bath mat to avoid germs, spent the night in a guest room off the laundry next to the garage and left the next morning.

That day, August 5, Casey called Mia to report something the baby-sitter had told her. The day before, Casey’s baby-sitter had been in the house looking for one of the three Pascal children and had been startled when she walked into the TV room. Dylan was on the sofa, wearing a dress, and Woody was kneeling on the floor holding her, with his face in her lap. The baby-sitter did not consider it “a fatherly pose,” but more like something you’d say “Oops, excuse me” to if both had been adults. She told police later that she was shocked. “It just seemed very intimate. He seemed very comfortable.”

As soon as Mia asked Dylan about it, Dylan began to tell a harrowing story, in dribs and drabs but in excruciating detail. According to her account, she and Daddy went to the attic (not really an attic, just a small crawl space off the closet of Mia’s bedroom where the children play), and Daddy told her that if she stayed very still he would put her in his movie and take her to Paris. He touched her “private part.” Dylan said she told him, “It hurts. I’m just a little kid.” The she told Mia, “Kids have to do what grown-ups say.” Mia, who has a small Beta video camera and frequently records her large brood, made a tape of Dylan for Dylan’s psychologist, who was in France at the time. “I don’t want to be in a movie with my daddy,” Dylan said, and asked, “Did your daddy ever do that to you?”

According to people close to the situation, Mia called her lawyer, who told her to take Dylan to her pediatrician in New Milford. When the doctor asked where her private part was, Dylan pointed to her shoulder. A few minutes later, over ice cream, she told Mia that she had been embarrassed to have to say anything about this to the doctor. Mia asked which story was true, because it was important that they know. They went back to the doctor the next day, and Dylan repeated her original story—one that has stayed consistent through many tellings to the authorities, who are in possession of the tape Mia made. The doctor examined Dylan and found that she was intact. He called his lawyer and then told Mia he was bound by law to report Dylan’s story to the police.

Mia, who never sought to make the allegations public, also told Dr. Coates, who is one of three therapists Woody Allen has seen on a regular basis. Coates too told Mia that she would have to report Dylan’s account to the New York authorities, but that she would also tell Woody. Mia burst out crying, she was so afraid. Ironically, the next day, August 6, Woody and Mia were supposed to sign an elaborate child-support-and-custody agreement, months in the negotiating, giving Mia $6,000 a month for the support of Satchel and Dylan and 15-year-old Moses, the other child of Mia’s whom Woody had adopted on December 17, 1991. Mia believed Woody’s sessions with Dr. Coates had definitely improved his demeanor with Dylan, but because of her concern about Woody’s past history, she had insisted that he not have unsupervised visitation until Dylan and Satchel were through the sixth grade, and that he no longer be able to sleep over at her country house, as he had so far insisted on doing, but stay in a guest cottage across the pond.

[From Vanity Fair's archive, 1992 article]

Again, this is wholly Mia’s side. She’s responding, via the press, to allegations by Woody that she made up the details about Dylan’s molestation because she was a crazy vindictive spurned woman. I believe this story and find it pretty chilling. Again, this man seduced Soon-Yi, but he claims he was never much of a father figure to her and wasn’t around her much. It all sounds like excuses after the fact.

After we published that story, I found these recent photos of Woody hugging up on his two adopted daughters, Manzie Tio Allen and Bechet Dumaine Allen, in Beverly Hills on Friday. I’m one of those affectionate moms and I often hug my son. I don’t think it’s weird to hug or kiss your kids. I also found this older photo of Woody out with the girls as young children, and he’s holding both of their hands. I can’t get a definitive age for his daughters, but they look to be about 14 and 13 now. From what we know of Woody’s history, and about the other allegations against him, I just get a strange impression of this. He knows he’s being photographed, so why doesn’t he hug up on his wife instead of his daughters? It’s possible he hasn’t seen them in a while and is greeting them here.

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  1. gee says:

    To me, the hug just seems photo-oppy. Like, ‘look, i’m a wonderful dad, not a disgusting pig who sleeps with my step-daughter when she’s barley legal, thus tearing apart my family.’

  2. Eve says:

    Happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts!

  3. French reader says:

    The one in the pink shorts looks delighted to see him, doesn’t she?

  4. Kathryn says:

    If this was anyone else I’d give them the benefit of the doubt but this photo gives me the creeps.

    • Rhea says:

      Exactly! With Woody, you’ll never know….

    • Maguita says:

      Instinct.

      It always comes down to female instinct. The self-preservation that most of us were born with:

      I had this much older cousin when I was younger. We just moved here, I was 11 years old, and my parents had to often leave me in charge of my much-younger siblings during the day.

      My older cousin. My at the time THIRTY-SEVEN year-old cousin, used to come by often. During the day. And I just wouldn’t open the door. Plain refused. No logical thought process would ever make me open that door. He would knock, yell, swear, threaten.

      No matter. I wouldn’t open the door.

      He complained to my father. My father yelled at me. Did not change a thing.

      I never opened that door.

      My father yelled some more one evening, and my mother, all of a sudden said “Honey, our very young girl, on the brink of womanhood, is refusing to open the door to a man. There must be a good reason why.”

      I could never express the horrified look on my father’s face at that moment.

      My cousin stopped coming by.

      He is now rotting in an Argentinian prison cell for raping and killing an 11 year-old girl.

      Your natural female-born instincts. Those were genetically handed down to you from centuries of abused women. Those instincts that you should never try to dull down with drugs and alcohol, when you are overcome with sudden unexplained discomfort or fears, when in the presence of one man.

      And that is also why ladies, you NEVER get drunk or do drugs when you are surrounded by strangers. You have fun, but you also make sure that those instincts are allowed to get to the surface if needed.

  5. gigi says:

    RRRRRUUUNNNNN GIRLS, RUNNNNNNN!!!!

  6. HotPockets says:

    too many perverts to count in Hollywood.

  7. Macey says:

    I always thought he was creepy, just something about him that screams pedo.
    The expression of the girl on the right is very telling, she does NOT want a hug from him, cant say I blame her either.
    I am curious why He and Soon Yi adopted, was she not able to have kids? Makes me wonder if it was his idea so he would have a supply of future wives on hand. He may justify his pedo desires by only acting on them with adopted children and not his own.

    • Lucy says:

      I always wondered that also, why no biological children? He’s so gross and I’m so amazed that Hollywood actresses like Scarlet Johanson and Rachel McAdams work with him when they know about his history. Him and Roman Polanski are just nasty

      • MST says:

        I agree. There are so many creeps and pedos around. My daughter is grown now, but when she was twelve she and her friend went to the theater. Some grown man tried to pick them up and when they told him how old they were, he replied “so?” I hope that those of you with young children watch them like a hawk!

      • MaiGirl says:

        I completely agree. I hate to be one of those “girl code” chicks, but I kind of am. Working with a sick f*ck like this as a woman breaks the girl code. I mean, LOOK AT THAT PHOTO! That photo is why I can’t separate art from the artist, when we are talking about issues this heinous. I have literally NEVER folded my arms in front of me when my father hugged me, even if I was mad at him. It would never have occurred to me, because affection was safe and welcome; clearly here, it’s not. Even professionally, he has made some pretty inappropriate comments about his leading ladies that would have made my all of my skin sprint away had they been said about me, but the chicks keep on coming. Woody disgusts me, as does anyone who works with him.

      • Lisa Marconi says:

        Roman Polanski is no Woody Allen.

        Polanski pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a 13-year old, got a plea deal which was reneged on by the judge and left the country in the wake of the court’s action. Polanski’s victim was 13-year old Samantha Geimer, dressed and made up to look a lot older by her mother, who drove her to Polanski’s house and left her there, in the hopes of getting her daughter a job with a famous director. Geimer has already sued him and reached an undisclosed settlement.

        Geimer filed court papers a couple years ago asking the charges against Polanski be dismissed, stating that “I have survived, indeed prevailed, against whatever harm Mr. Polanski may have caused me as a child…I got over it a long time ago.”
        http://bit.ly/frx1Fm

        Polanski has stated in interviews how much he regrets what happened. This is a man who survived the Holocaust as a child, whose mother died at Auschwitz and who escaped from the Krakow Ghetto at 7 years old and survived alone until his father was liberated from the camps.

        And of course his wife and unborn son were butchered by the Manson family in 1969 while he was away working. While I’m not defending Polanski’s actions, perhaps he has been punished enough for his transgressions. Samantha Geimer, his victim, apparently thinks so.

        Polanski is not a child molestor. Woody Allen, however, has been witnessed by a number of people doing such things as burying his face in his 4-year old’s crotch and applying sunscreen between a child’s butt cheeks. Allen has never expressed any remorse whatsoever about abusing his learning-impaired daughter Soon-Yi, or any of his actions with very young children. There is a difference.

      • Alice says:

        To “Lisa Marconi” – That is such BS you wrote there. First you victim blame a 13 year old girl, then you go on and pull the HC card – How f*cking dare you!? What a cheap shot! I don’t give a damn that Roman Polanski survived the holocaust, that is no excuse to rape a child! Every time, every single time his defenders bring that up as if that somehow makes it ok!
        Look guys, he survived the holocaust and his family got killed – Give him a break!
        Are you serious!? #iCan’t

      • Laura says:

        Lisa Marconi-No, no, no, no, no. Punished? He FLED THE COUNTRY to avoid his already toned down punishment. And he doesn’t regret it, he regrets getting caught. When he was on house arrest (in a mansion) a few years ago because he is a FUGITIVE, he whined about the unfair treatment nonstop, despite never having been punished for drugging, raping, and sodomizing a thirteen year old girl.
        And the reason she asked to have the charges dropped is because she’s tired of hearing about it. Her name was never supposed to be public because she was a child, Roman leaked it to punish her for telling on him. And so since her rape she’s been known as the girl who Roman raped, and has had her name dragged through the mud, and had to relive the traumatic experience again and again. Of course she doesn’t want to think about it anymore.
        Also, just because the victim says it’s ok doesn’t mean the crime is just let go. That’s not how the justice system works. Especially because Roman committed more crimes in his flight from justice.

    • fabgrrl says:

      I believe he has always said he never wanted to have any biological children. Like he was afraid of passing on his genes, or something. I think Ronan is his only bio kid (?), and it seems like he hated Ronan from birth. Of course, Ronan is a boy, and that may be part of it.

      • Saba says:

        I was just about to say something similar.

        @Macey: Woody has some serious Oedipal issues with his son. In one interview he says that the boy killed his relationship with Mia because of breastfeeding. He also says that had it not been for the adopted girl that he was later accused of molesting, he would have dumped Mia along time ago. No kidding.

        Ofcourse, Nolans tweet yesterday is his worst Oedipus nightmare come true. His son is now “powerful” enough to “kill” him.

        Woody didnt even want to risk the birth of another boy.

      • bluhare says:

        That’s horrible. So he only wants girl children? That’s sort of telling, isn’t it? Or am I letting the press of the last few days get to me?

  8. corny says:

    shopping for a new bride? hmmm

  9. cupidityrox! says:

    This man is DISGUSTING!!!
    I read the link to the Vanity Fair article & it gave me chills. If there’s a hell I hope Woody Allen ends up there. He wrecked Mia’s family. & can I just say that Mia Farrow
    is one of the world’s unsung heroes. All her children except Soon Yi turned out great. A truly exemplary woman & mom.

    • original lucy says:

      I agree that Mia is a wonderful person, but I do wonder what inside her made her stay with Woody, when there were many “incident” and if he yelled at her and made her feel mentally inferior…not trying to put any blame on Mia, just curious…

  10. kdlaf says:

    I feel like in several years (once Woody has passed), all these stories are going to come out about other incidents like this. And I’m pretty sure his loyal following in Hollywood are going to act like they never knew but come on. Nobody keeps real secrets in Hollywood. Everything comes out eventually.

    Also, although I have seen and enjoyed some of his movies. I will never give his empire a cent of my own money. Also, his movies arent THAT good, certainly not good enough to receive a “pedophile pass” in Hollywood. Pretty much all of his movies center around a sad pathetic man who needs a woman to get him out of his misery. There are thousands of female writers/directors who have more creative storylines and they deserve more of a voice.

    • Jordan says:

      I’m afraid there’s probably been a lot of “pedophile passes” given in Hollywood. Woody Allen and Roman Polanski became known but I’d be willing to bet there’s hundreds of cases that have been swept under the rug. I remember when an actress came out years later and had said that the Corey’s had been passed around. Plus, the agents, talent scouts and directors out there that probably taken advantage of children and/or whose parents were willing to look the other way as long as their child got the part.

    • Trashaddict says:

      Stopped watching his movies long ago, after the Vanity Fair article. Stopped watching Polanski. Stopped watching Mel Gibson. Soon I will run out of film actors. Hey Hollywood, any real men out there?

  11. madpoe says:

    oooh the look of death from that one in the pink shorts! You’re too young to be so icy! lol

  12. Toot says:

    Creepy as hell. The body language of the girls says a lot.

    • StephanieMarie2685 says:

      Riiiiiiight?!?!
      Neither has opened their arms and reciprocated the hugging which casts serious doubt on the theory of them not seeing each for a while/reuniting.

      On the other hand though, the girls seem aware their are photographers and maybe they’re uncomfortable?
      I know at 13/14 I didn’t like to hug my parents in front of friends, etc..

      • DeltaJuliet says:

        See, now when I hug my Dad it’s usually awkward because we are not especially close. But awkward as in one holds on longer than the other, or we don’t know where to put our arms, etc. This picture looks like “Get the f- away from me”.

  13. Blue says:

    I feel really really sick, nauseated, and grossed out reading that. I swear if any man touched my daughter like that, his body would never be found.

    • DreamyK says:

      Holy hell. How in gods name was this man able to adopt not one, but two, little girls?

      I’m calling out Soon-Yi, too. Her denial and rationalizations helped victimize another generation by this bastard pedophile. Just so effing wrong.

      • Yep says:

        I agree somewhat, but soon yi is also a victim. She was targeted as a child by a manipulative predator. Soon yi has developmental and social disorders. She went directly from Mia’s home to woody’s, and despite what he claims, he surely has Some level of authoritative hold on her. From what the article says about woody’s treatment of Mia when they were together, I’m confident he is still emotionally abusive and his wife is a trapped, stunted child stuck in his thralls. I’m not excusing her of any responsibility, I’m just pointing out that he messed her up quite a bit when she was still developing.

  14. lulu says:

    I don’t like his hand on his daughter’s lower back like that. If I didn’t know Woody, I wouldn’t think anything of it. But I doubt he sees these girls as anything but sex objects. He is sick and simply cannot help himself. He needs to be put away IMO.

  15. RobN says:

    If you’ve ever seen the documentary of Woody and Soon Yi together on a music tour of Europe, you notice right away that she completely runs him. He doesn’t turn left or right without looking to her to see what she wants him to do. It’s interesting because it certainly isn’t the relationship that I expected between them. I assumed that he went after a young girl so that he could dominate her and that wasn’t how it turned out at all.

    I think these pictures are completely overblown. You just have no idea of the context; withdrawn girl because of being molested, typical surly teenage girl who is overly dramatic, a fight with mom and she’s pissed that dad is taking mom’s side, you just can’t know.

    • tracking says:

      +1 There’s little to like about this man, but I agree there’s no way to know what the actual dynamic is in these pics.

    • Hautie says:

      “If you’ve ever seen the documentary of Woody and Soon Yi together on a music tour of Europe, you notice right away that she completely runs him. He doesn’t turn left or right without looking to her to see what she wants him to do. It’s interesting because it certainly isn’t the relationship that I expected between them…”
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      My complete bias opinion.

      I saw a documentary on Mia back in the 1990′s. With her and all her children at home.

      And they lived a very stripped down life.

      A very frugal life style. No extra’s.

      Lots of brown rice and granola eating at meals.

      The kids all look like they wore clothes from the bargain bin from the thrift store.

      It looked like what I image a hippy compound from the 60′s would have looked like.

      Those kids were home schooled. And she was in their business 24/7. I am seriously surprised that Ronan got off the compound.

      I always wonder if Soon Yi saw Woody as a way out of the compound.

      I just never bought into the whole molesting charges. Mia is still bitter as hell. And she has an ax to grind. And that is her business. I find it cheap to use the son to help her with it after all this time.

      I do not believe that Woody seduced Soon Yi. As much as Soon Yi wanted to live a different life.

      Yes, I know Soon Yi was young. So there is no need to yell at me.

      But she was of age and she seems like a girl who had a plan. And her plan did not include living on the hippy compound.

      And it is now what 20 years later… and Soon Yi is still there. With two kids.

      So I am having a hard time believing that Soon Yi stayed for any other reason, than it was where she wanted to be. And she does run Woody!

      • Zesty says:

        Total nonsense. The only reason they are still together is they are shackled to each other by what they did.

        This is one of those situations where if you fight so hard for something, once you get it you have to smile and act like your happy even if it is a stinking steaming pile.

        Similar to our very own Prince Charles and Camilla who by all accounts dont live in the same house (allegedly because Charles doesnt like Camillas grandkids running around… yea right!)

      • bubbles says:

        wow, just wow, how could anyone be so ignorant?

      • Raven says:

        You are so right, Hautie. Those adopted children did a lot of menial labor. And where are they now? You never see Mia with anyone but Ronan. He was the smart pretty one, so he got her attention and the opportunities.

        I’m concerned about all the nasty language in the media now that these girls are old enough to understand. Frankly, Woody and Soon Yi have been married long enough to be left alone. And if Ronan ever thought of Soon Yi as a sister for longer than 5 minutes, I’ll eat my computer.

    • TammysMa says:

      @RobN: You must be kidding. You know that Wild Man Blues was produced by Woody Allens production company, dont you? Its well known that Woody had final cut. As if anyone with as many ADMITTED control freak tendencies and anxiety issues would be as calm as he is at that breakfast table.
      Woodys influence in that film is so apparent. His crazy is painted as the “adorable crazy” that accompanies genius. While theres that vicious scene with his parents that makes them look like complete douches.

      As for Soon-yis purported power, she only deals with things that trigger his neurosis. Its their version of cooking, cleaning and doing the laundry. There is no power in her actions. None. She is the way she is because he wants her that way. Or more accurately, he built her that way.

      • RobN says:

        That isn’t what I saw in the movie; you saw it one way, I saw it another.

      • Harpinder says:

        I recall seeing bits of this. One clip I think, where the couple arrives at a hotel or something and the wife is ordering things to be moved while Woody broodily skulks in the background?

        Like I said, I havent seen the whole thing but what I saw was creepy as hell. In hindsight, Tammy may be right. I think this is Woodys version of a stepford wife and he controls her by psychological manipulation.

        He allows her the illusion of power when in reality she is merely making life more comfortable for him. We’ve already established shes not too bright – she’ll never figure it out.

        Honestly though, anybody who would sit down to watch 2 hours of this psycho deserves a medal.

  16. mewmow says:

    The one in the pink shorts seems very uncomfortable with him touching her. Very. Uncomfortable. Hope to God my gut is wrong, but it seems very telling. A picture tells a 1000 words…. :-(

  17. fabgrrl says:

    If this were someone else, I would give them the benefit of the doubt. For instance, I think that sometimes old grandparents kind of think of children as younger than they really are. They treat them like toddlers or little kids who need to be held and hovered over. If I didn’t know who they were, I’d think these girls were out with their grampy who maybe needs a little help walking and getting around.

    But these photos are very icky in context.

  18. Gretchen says:

    *sick feeling* the girl on the right doesn’t seem happy to be with him at all. Of course maybe she’s just camera shy but everything about her crossed arms and body language scream “don’t touch me” and “not going to hug back”.

  19. anna says:

    He always is holding onto the Asian girl, always. There are other photos of him with the children and she’s the one he is always with. Soon Yi is usually behind them.

  20. Mrs.Darcy says:

    I have never felt like there was enough evidence to convince either way.I read Mia’s book and a bio of Woody a long time ago. In both versions it was pretty clear that Woody never lived under the same roof as her kids and resisted most of her efforts to make him a father figure. They seemed to have an incredibly unhealthy, disfunctional relationship which she clung onto for years even as he distanced himself from her.I am not saying it(Soon Yi) wasn’t morally wrong and undeniably creepy, but the continued perception that he raised this girl as his daughter is to me anyway pretty unsupported by everything I have read. As for the molestation allegations, it is hard not to think that it was partially motivated by revenge, and were there any real merit he would have been prosecuted. They both seem like neurotic weirdos, he has moved on with his life and become a family man which I’m sure irks her a lot, as evidenced by supporting her son thinking of him as a monster, which cannot be particularly healthy to cling onto for 20 years. I just think it’s easy to oversimplify and tag someone a paedo. He is not Roman Polanski, he did not rape a 12 year old. He has been married to Soon Yi for a long time now, I would have thought were his predilection truly for young girls this would not be the case, but who knows.I just think it’s sad he can’t be photographed with his kids without re-igniting 20 year old gossip.

  21. suhon12 says:

    The girl on the right, you can read her body language. Arms folded, guarding her body, not open to hugging from what I can see. She is closed off, not smiling, doesn’t particularly like Woody’s presence. Not a positive exchange.

  22. cr says:

    When the child abuse allegations came out I completely believed them.
    And now, I’m not sure. Is he creepy? Yes, but…
    I’m aware that most abuse allegations are probably true-but there are also plenty of cases where the accusations are false-all the daycare center ritual abuse charges in the 1980′s, for example.
    And Halle Berry is accusing GA of abusing Nahla, correct? So we don’t believe those accusations because she’s the weird one and we believe Mia because she’s the ‘saint’ and Woody’s creepy?

    @kdlaf: Playing devil’s advocate here: Of course the question would be why not come out with the information 20 years ago, when the abuse allegations came out? After the summer of 1992, there was pretty much widespread revulsion against him, and have more allegations (not coming from someone involved in a custody dispute) would have been very damaging.
    Or as you wrote, ‘everyone’ knows this and is just waiting until something else happens (or he dies) and then tells all, and they just waited for whatever reasons?

  23. NM6804 says:

    Noboby will forget about this scandal and that’s the predicament he put himself him.

    About the link to the photo, the Asian girl is screaming “help” with her eyes.

    In the photos accompagning this article, they both look VERY uncomfortable. We communicate for 90% with our body and those girls do NOT want a hug from Poppa Pedophile. Look at the crossed arms, the closed fists, the not responsive stance of both of them, both their head either turned away from him, the tension in the legs of white girl. I smell trouble or a tell-all book à la “Poppy Dearest”.

    I do not understand how Soon-Yi could have children with him knowing how their relationship began. How could he have adopted anyway? Nevermind that he never adopted Soon-Yi or married Farrow. Farrow and Allen were together and that means he took on a relationship that could be described as a “father figure” to her children so in my book, there is no excuse. Don’t want to be a father, then don’t date somebody with children and don’t procreate with that woman.
    Soon-Yi was underage when their relationship “started” so what agency would allow a man like that to adopt children!?

    That family is weird and with his past, I wouldn’t be suprised if one day…you know. Sad, sad, sad…

  24. Izzy says:

    All of you who are saying that the girl on the right looks like she doesn’t want to be touched by him… you are correct. There is someone in my life who once tried to touch me inappropriately (I say TRIED because even at that young age, I made sure he understood how painful it would be to try it again – I am definitely my mother’s daughter), and I have taken the exact same posture every time he has tried to greet me with a hug. That girl is totally creeped out, and I would know.

    • RobN says:

      You would know your reaction. I also used to have that same expression during my entire teen years any time that my dad tried to hug me when I was pissed off at something, which was all the time. I’m sure it would have looked awful on camera and people on websites could have read all sorts of awful things into it, but what it came down to was that I was a bitchy 13 year old who didn’t realize that some day my dad wouldn’t be around to hug me anymore. Your story is your story; you can project your reactions onto other people but that still just makes it your reaction, not theirs.

      • Vesper says:

        @ RobN: Your comment is really insensitive to Izzy.

        If reading body language was as subjective as u make it out to seem, it wouldn’t be used on a daily basis by doctors, social workers, child protection workers, counsellors, psychiatrists and police to decipher what is really going on.

        The body language of a pissed off teenager doesn’t look anything like these pics.

      • Jordan says:

        @RobN, was your dad ever accused of molesting a child? If so, I would hope someone would notice your uncomfortableness around him whenever he touched you, no matter how innocent the hug, and at least asked the question. If your dad had never had any of those accusations in his past then I’m not surprised that everyone wrote it off as a ticked off teenager trying to get back at a parent. Woody Allen has had accusations in his past, which Dylan never recanted to my knowledge, but prosecutors decided not to pursue a trial. In Izzy’s case, her projection is out of concern. Yours is out of what? Because he is a good director?

    • mewmow says:

      @Izzy, I am so sorry that happened to you. When I was young my best friend was raped by her step father and brother. It was back in the day where they unfortunately didn’t do anything except tell her mom, and I use mom with disgust here, to make him leave. This had gone on for years and years. As soon as it had “blown over”, she moved him back in! She blamed my friend, even thoughit started before she was 10!!! Of course it continued and she ALWAYS looked like that! She never got over it, of course, had a ver sad life children with many different abusive fathers and committed suicide a few years ago. I feel so very sorry for these kids and blame Woody’s wife almost as much as him! Disgusting and totaly inconceivable to me! Horrible horrible people! :-( :-( :-(

  25. Marie says:

    @Izzy..I share your instincts on the girl in the pink shorts. Her body language seems to speaks volumes. I was molested by a very close family member and never told but ha a similar body language right into adulthood. After both my parents died I broke contact for good bit it’s taken yrs of therapy to stop the flash backs and feel safe even with my own husband. I just won’t to jump into that picture and yank her away until she feels safe enough to tell the truth. The rich and famous get away with too much in this world. BTW my friend has worked with abused kids for many yrs and body language is a big part of investigations. Agree or not it’s fact.

  26. bored says:

    I think he started his relationship with his wife in an innapropriate and stupid way but I don’t think he is a pedophile – just a man who made a poor set of decisions. I think thy’ve been quietly and happily married long enough for people to start letting it go. I doubt he is abusing his children. That’s a nasty thing to imply without evidence, Mia Farrow has had revenge a hundred times over by happily poisoning his children and the rest of the world against him and he probably deserved it but I don’t think there was ever a ‘sex with kids’ thing. He fell in love with someone innapropriate and vulnerable and didn’t exersize any self control in that department. Is he an assh*le? Yes. But an assh*le and a pedo are two very different things.

  27. Stacia says:

    I’ll say what everyone else is thinking
    …HE’S A PERVERT.
    Those girls seem to cringe at the thought of his creepy old pervy hands touching them.

  28. Julie says:

    a mistress doesnt trust a man who cheated with her and left her wife for her. the constant feeling that he will also cheat on her.
    how does it feel if you are adopted and your step dad (maybe not legally but he also raised them) has sex with you and marries you, how do you feel then if you and him also adopt two daughters?
    you cant tell me that Soon-Yi doesnt think about the possibility.

    for the pics: i find him extremly creepy but those pictures dont proof much to me. the girls dont like it that some stranger takes pictures of them, that would explain the way they behave. doesnt make woody less of a creep though.

  29. Marie says:

    Better to investigate suspected cases of child sexual abuse and be wrong rather than not. The one child who is missed picks up the for the rest of their life.

    • RobN says:

      While I’d generally agree, custody case claims of sexual abuse have to fall under a separate category. Who knows how many children have their relationship with their father changed forever because of false allegations by an ex? The damage done to those kids is just as real and will last just as long.

      • Asanith says:

        “While I’d generally agree, custody case claims of sexual abuse have to fall under a separate category.”

        Now what in the name of pedophile-heaven does that even mean? Marie says that all child molestation accusations should be investigated and your response is that an on-going divorce should invalidate this position?

        In your world, if a molester realised that the child was about to spill, all he would need to do is file divorce papers. Hell, he could in fact just file for a long dragged out divorce as soon as he began getting the hots of his child. Then when confronted, he would just need to utter the words “custody case” for instant immunity.

        Since a molested child doesnt face sufficient stigma in the violation and in having to report their own father, lets add on to it. Lets tell her that if her mummy and daddy arent getting along, then we probably will not believe her. Yes, lets do that. God! Some people!

  30. Annie says:

    To give Woody the benefit of the doubt – I wouldn’t have wanted to be photographed hugging my parents at their age and my parents wouldn’t hurt a fly, so it could just be awkward teenager stuff. My family have a lot of teenage photos of me scowling about like the girl on the right.

    Hope that’s all it is anyway.

  31. Lem says:

    There is nothing normal and every bit creepy about Woody Allen. Always was.
    Also. 20 – 22 years? Dayum. No way that math feels right.

  32. Violet says:

    Those girls look incredibly uncomfortable, especially the one on the right.

    If he’s molesting his daughters — and I suspect he is — it’s not like they can turn to Soon-Yi for help, because Woody has trained her from a young age to accept that sort of sick behavior as normal.

  33. Janet says:

    I don’t care if Soon Yi was 21 when the relationship started, there is only one bottom line:

    You don’t f*ck your mother’s boyfriend, especially when he is the the biological father of your own brother.

    You don’t f*ck your longtime paramour’s daughter.

    The end.

  34. Isla says:

    I tend to agree with everyone who says that those girls do not want to be hugged by Woody.

    Woody is a disgusting, vile pervert.

    Body language speaks VOLUMES as to how we truly feel in a certain situation or around certain people, regardless of what we might be verbally communicating at the time.

  35. maggiegrace says:

    Everyone is entitled to their opinions. And my opinion is that he is one, sick, perverted m*therf*cker. I detest him. I got the impression from the Vanity Fair article that Soon Yi had/has a low intelligence level and was very lacking in maturity. Seemed like a Svengali thing to me. If she left him, what in the world would she do? And what photos Mia found of Soon Yi – good god how gross. He’s a freak.

  36. Samigirl says:

    Just playing Devil’s Advocate-I’m adopted. My dad and I are very affectionate toward each other. We hug, kiss, and I crawled in his lap and boohooed when I miscarried last year. At the age of *almost* 26, I will still hold his hand if we are walking together some where. I am a daddy’s girl, all the way. We are just as close as if we were blood related.

    HOWEVER, my dad is not a pedophile. So, in my eyes, it’s creepy.

  37. princesslizabeth says:

    The girls’ body language is telling, isn’t it? He’s a great director, but something is DEFINITELY off in his personal life, IMHO.

  38. Kim says:

    WOODY ALLEN IS A PEDOPHILE WHO SHOULD BE IN PRISON PERIOD!!!!!

  39. Ida says:

    FFS, I still cuddle in bed with my mum and dad when I visit them and I’m almost thirty. When I was little I would also sit on their lap and they would caress me, they would kiss me on the cheek, on the tip of my nose, on my chin, on my forehead, on my neck. The result: I felt tremendously loved and continue to feel so! Also, up until we were 7 or 8 my mother and father used to take turns to shower both me and my sister, yes, in the nude, shock shock horror horror, because they didn’t think we could scrub ourselves properly if left to our own devices and my mother is a hygiene freak. And, no, my parents are not bloody pedophiles. Those girls don’t look uncomfortable with their father, they look uncomfortable with the photographer(s).

  40. mayamae says:

    What bothers me (besides everything already mentioned) is that Woody Allen was exhibiting this behavior towards Dylan while Mia Farrow was still with him. I respect Mia as a humanitarian but I also suspect she may have done the typical look the other way and hope you are imagining it.

    It’s sad that the grandma and aunt saw something but Mia grabbed the lotion away – in doing so the subject was changed and the incident was glossed over. Dylan was 4 y/o at the time and should have been questioned about abuse. The article implies this incident was ignored.

  41. NYC_girl says:

    When I was between the ages of 10 & 18, I didn’t want my stepfather anywhere near me. He never did anything inappropriate, but we didn’t get along and I had my teen issues. Regarding that Vanity Fair article, I read most of it and everyone seems to have serious issues. Mia married Frank Sinatra when she was 19 and he was 49. Is that appropriate? That, to me, is someone with Daddy issues, I don’t care how alluring or attractive he was. I don’t know either of them personally, and I am not saying Woody and Soon Yi is appropriate either, I think it’s quite repellent – but he was never married to Mia Farrow and Soon Yi is not his stepdaughter and I don’t think he adopted her either. It’s still creepy.

    As I get older I see how little self-control men have. I see so many men cheating on their wives or girlfriends. Recently my ex propositioned me, even though he got engaged a few months ago (I said no). My first thought is that if Woody was sexually attracted to his partner’s adopted daughter he should have walked away from the entire situation; his relationship with Mia, AND being around all those children. It is not worth the havoc he caused. The situation with Woody and Dylan is another thing. If Mia saw photos of Soon Yi with her legs spread, how much more proof does she need that something bad is going on? Plus, Mia is a woman scorned. Rejection is painful and even more so when your partner of 12 years commences a relationship with your adopted young daughter AND it’s announced in the media. It’s bizarre and and nobody comes out unscathed. Whenever I see Woody and Soon Yi walking around the upper east side here, her face is expressionless.

    Roman Polanski is brought up too within this topic. His behavior with that 13 year old girl was inexcusable and he should have been held accountable. However, where were the child’s parents during the photo shoot or whatever was going on that allowed him unsupervised access to her? How could anyone leave their child alone with questionable people in the film industry, in the 70s, when sex was rampant and drugs were flying around? Plus, he lost his wife and friends so heinously a few years earlier (the details of those murders – in particular Sharon Tate’s and their unborn son – were so vicious and horrifying), how can he be normal? I wouldn’t let my kid anywhere near him. He fled the country which was wrong, but that girl later sued him and he gave her a huge settlement, and she’s said the media attention surrounding the case was more harmful than what he did to her. Again, I’m not saying what he did was OK.

    I’m sure some of you will disagree with what I wrote and I’m sorry for the long rant. I love looking at shots of Prince Harry but this Woody Allen stuff just irks me.

    • busy ramone says:

      victim-blaming.

      class.

      • NYC_girl says:

        No, not victim-blaming at all. If what I wrote sounded like that, it wasn’t my intention. These men are predators. But parents should also protect their children.

      • Jordan says:

        @NYC_girl, and what if their parents don’t protect them and are just looking to pimp out their children for a role or cash, too bad for the child? Yes, in a perfect world, parents protect their children and have their best interest at heart, however we don’t live in a perfect world and the abused children end up paying the price for all of the adult’s actions.

      • NYC_girl says:

        @Jordan, you’re right. I was just reading about Sandusky’s trial and how his wife is defending him. It’s terrible. I know a parent can’t always protect his/her child… very sad and upsetting.

    • Vesper says:

      Regarding Roman Polanski. From my vague recollection, the girl was at his house and he drugged and sodomized her. I believe she was 12 or 14. NOTHING excuses that. The fact that she didn’t want to go public, for the second time, 25 years after the fact doesn’t mean what she went thru wasn’t horrific, and that it didn’t scar her for life. It is incredibily difficult for victims of sexual assault to have to relive their trauma so many years after the fact. Nonetheless, such a crime shouldn’t go unpunished. The fact that he gave her a large financial settlement means nothing. I’m assuming it was a civil case, and the settlement was decided by the court, so it is not like he did it willingly to express regret. Unfortunately, money doesn’t begin to make up for the damage he has done.

  42. Melissa says:

    The body language of the girls though – they are pulling away – arms down, etc – not returning the love. Says a lot to me!

  43. Emma says:

    I don’t even want to write the words, but it’s creepy and I see the worst here. God know what goes on in that house!

  44. skuddles says:

    He totally and completely disgusts me. I have a feeling we’ll be hearing more disturbing allegations about him down the road.

  45. Bored suburbanhousewife says:

    Soon yi is a big part of this.she w adopted as an older child and her real mother was a Korean prostitute. She is damaged and she probably looks ather marriage as a business transaction, maybe originally to escape the hippie commune as an earlier commenter observed. Doubt it was her who wanted to adopt the girls. She went along cause it was part of the deal. She is a severely damaged person who is part of a perverted business arrangement.

  46. LeeLoo says:

    Honestly, those girls look like moody teens to me. I can’t pretend to read too much into those pictures.

    The fact is Woody was accused of child molestation in a very serious way. The prosecutor declined to file charges because he did not want Dylan to go through the trauma of a trial. I think that Woody should never have been to allowed to adopt in the first place and the fact that he was is sickening. At the same time, since Ronan’s tweet and his mother’s subsequent re-tweet, I’ve begun to wonder just how jilted Mia was at the end of that relationship. Jilted enough to brainwash her own daughter into believing this? The thought had crossed my mind. I felt she should not have said anything in regards to Ronan’s comments the other day and the fact that she did tells of just how bitter she is about what Woody has done. You’d think after 20 years, she’d have made peace with it and have let go of her bitterness. I’m not giving Woody a pass, there is no way I can morally justify what he did with Soon-Yi at any age but Mia needs to move on and accept what happened. The fact she hasn’t done that has lead me to be slightly suspicious. I never would have considered the possibility of her being even remotely in the wrong until a few days ago.

    I’ve never been a fan of Woody Allen’s films and I have always thought of him as overrated. But his films are very telling and always have been telling that he is not a mentally well man and never has been. Unfortunately, I don’t know if any of us will truly know what that means until he is gone from this world.

    • Vesper says:

      He destroyed an entire family, and apparently has no regrets. Mia lost a daugher. Three of her children lost their father. All of the children lost a sister. What mother can just move on after that?

    • girl s says:

      really? so, you think a re-tweet means that mia’s a jilted woman who brainwashed her own child into thinking she was sexually abused? but let’s not go too far and read into the uncomfortable body language of young girls being hugged by a suspected pedophile?

      /double standard

      • LeeLoo says:

        You misread my comments a little. My issue is with the fact that after 20 years she would publicy endorse such a statement by their shared child. Of course ob one level I expect that these issues still haunt this family very deeply but I would hope at this point this could be something they address privately. I would think after 20 years they would handle any lingering issues without the need to address them publicly. I feel the fact that Mia would still pander to the public on this particular issue after 20 years is somewhat suspicious. At this point, this is something to deal with privately unless they were advocatingagainst child abuse and wanted to use their story to help others. To me, a cheap shot like this one doesn’t make anyone look good. It especially makes Mia look bad when she re-tweets it.

      • Vesper says:

        @ LeeLoo: If u read the Vanity Fair article u might change your position. Bottom line, unless u believe she is lying, his adopted daughter did accuse Allen of sexually abusing her and she stuck to her story. The fact that it didn’t go to court had nothing to do with whether Allen was guilty.

        As for who was holding on to the relationship. It was Woody who adopted two of the children about one month before the naked pictures of Soon Yi were found by Mia. During the adoption process, Woody made it clear that he was always at home with the children when they woke up in the morning and when they went to sleep at night. That sounds like a man who was, or at least pretended to be, fully comitted to a relationship, not a man who was looking to move on.

        As for the tweet, it was originally tweeted by their biological son who has no contact with his father. Considering what the man put his son thru, he deserves anything he gets. I see Mia’s retweet as support for her son, and an unwillingness to back down from her original allegations, and for this I applaud her. Do u realize how many women are sexually abused by a family as children and either not believed by their mother or told to forget about it?

      • Vesper says:

        Sorry, about that. My comment should have read:

        Do u realize how many women are sexually abused as children by a male family member and are either not believed by their mother, or told to forget about it?

  47. ldel says:

    I have no doubt Woody Allen is a pedophile. I read the Vanity Fair article when it came out and followed it closely in the news, being a survivor of incest myself. Neither of these two girls have ever looked the least bit happy or comfortable around Woody reminding me of myself when I was around my perpetrator. It all seems to familiar to me. And Mia Farrow has said repeatedly that she was not accusing Woody of anything; she was merely acting on what Dylan told her happened. I have a hard time believing a womanof her integrity and moral conviction would put any child, let alone her own child, through a sex abuse investigation to get revenge on the man who cheated on her – even if it was with her daughter.

  48. Izzards Chick says:

    id really love to know how the heckitty heck his adoptions go thru. ive adopted 2 children from Ukraine and I cannot tell u how difficult it is. Even Angie Jolie has to adopt her kids herself because Brad isnt married to her, she adopts as a single. Is there not one person who is involved in the adoption of these 2 girls that has any type of second guess on this?

  49. girl s says:

    i don’t understand all the comments (and the articles i read in other sites) about how it’s soo suspicious mia or ronan just can’t let go.

    if my father married my sister, i would not need my mom to coach me in to anger. and if my boyfriend of 10 years ever married my learning-disabled daughter, you better believe i would never let it go. mia and ronan’s reactions are completely normal. are people really this willing to dismiss woody’s actions just because he’s a good director?

    • original lucy says:

      He is not that good of a director! OVERRATED!

    • Raven says:

      Then let me explain it to you. She beat the daylights out of Soon Yi when she found out. Mia was crazy jealous of Soon Yi and still is. She probably has a very abnormal relationship with her son because, at his age and with his education and experience, he should not be carrying his mother’s negative feelings. She has manipulated her son into actions like the Tweet that is more about his mother than him.

      • Jordan says:

        It’s obvious that you believe Woody’s version of those events rather than Mia’s, which everyone has their own opinions. But Ronan is Woody’s son and he made the tweet on Father’s Day so I’d be willing to bet that it had more to do with his relationship with his father and how what Woody did affected his life than his mother simply being jilted.

      • girl s says:

        @Raven: well, now i understand your point and i think you’re a very sad person to think a son would have no reason to be mad that his father married his sister, other than motherly manipulation.

        i also think you’re willfully choosing to believe woody’s story over mia’s against all evidence, just because you’re a fan.

  50. mooshi says:

    I will presume these two young girls are not Jewish. Now that WOULD be criminal.

  51. JRenee says:

    It’s Woody and it’s creepy!

  52. Ginger says:

    I am definitely and firmly camp Mia…always have been. I recall when all of this happened…and the evidence against him was damning to be sure. He is disgusting and I can’t believe he was allowed to adopt after the allegations against him. He is still a great film maker but I can’t stand him as a person. It seems like you can get away with any sin in Hollywood.

  53. skuddles says:

    Out of curiosity I googled images of Allen and his two adopted daughters. So many pics of him clutching onto the girls, and this isn’t just when they were younger either, many look fairly current. It seems he’s either grabbing onto their waists, arms or hands, and in many pics the girls look very unhappy. Soon Yi is just sort of floating in the background with her usual empty expression. Incidentally, I read that both girls were adopted around age 7 – isn’t that the same age Dylan was when she claimed her Dad began to molest her? Just creepy.

    • LeeLoo says:

      No. One of them was adopted as a baby. The other was adopted at age 7. I’m not sure which one but I believe they are the same age. I looked at his wiki page.

      I also googled the photos and it is such a gray area, IMO. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a father showing affection but how much is too much? It’s very borderline. My dad and I were close and we held hands and hugged and cuddled even as I became an adult (and I was adopted too). But it was never inappropriate. I certainly never got touched on the waist like that. I hate playing guessing games when I only have photos to look at. I wish there was an insider scoop on their home life where I could try to read through PR BS and rumors. I’m better at that.

  54. Claudia says:

    Growing up, I always responded to hugs from my family in that way. I have great parents, but I was never very affectionate and as a moody teenager I was “so over” that kind of thing. Even today (at 25 years old) I have only progressed to mustering up an awkward pat on the back. Get your minds out of the gutter and stop trying to read such filth out of a simple action.

    Also, having a learning disability does not equal slow-witted, naive, or dumb! That is a huge insult to the millions of people with learning disabilities, which do not all fall under the same umbrella, and have varying degrees of impact (mild dyslexic here).

  55. Elizabeth says:

    In any photos of the ‘family”, Soon-Yi, the children’s mother, always looks like an afterthought, not really part of the picture, just tagging along. Shows how much power she has in that family. None. Scary stuff.

  56. Meanchick says:

    @ Lisa Turtle, ITA! The body language of these girls speaks loudly! I don’t believe for one millisecond that he and Soon Yi “discovered” love when she turned 18. There’s a pack of pedos in H-wood and they all cover for one another. Disgusting.

  57. AT says:

    Both those girls have body language that SCREAMS they are not comfortable with him touching them – arms in front, protecting them from bodies actually touching….. creepy

  58. Lady LaLa says:

    I dunno. Those crossed arms look like a “barrier ” to me……..

  59. Ezekiel says:

    This is all quite unsavory, but bear in mind that all of Mia’s assertions were found to be false by case workers. The judge recommended that Mia get therapy.

  60. michael says:

    Well,I’m a late comer to this, but what Hautie and RobN say is so off the wall I have to wonder what their perspective even is on child molestation. So what if Mia had the children living simply and having responsibility? Even if she was a martinet, you’re saying that gave Woody(ugh, hate even saying his name)some kind of excuse to do what he did?You can blame Mia all you want, but he was a freakin’ grown man who could have walked whenever he wanted, but he stuck around…FOR THE GIRLS! He is a malignant narcissistic pervert who has perfected the disguise of victimhood to cover a rapacious predator. Yeah, and to think people work with him, defend him, and he was able to adopt two more girls! Tells you what kind of world we live in-thank God for the intelligent comments that are here! Former social worker.