Andrew Denton is an Australian interviewer famous for his ability to get his guests to reveal intimate details of their lives, perhaps most famously getting Steve Irwin to share that he was too nervous to consummate his marriage on his wedding night. Because of this I was rather looking forward to his hour long interview with Angelina Jolie and Clint Eastwood. The show is called Enough Rope, as in ‘give them enough rope and they’ll hang themselves, or do tricks’.
Unfortunately, I think Angelina and Clint are suffering from interview fatigue, as it was the same sound bites we’ve been hearing for a while. Angelina spoke about her hesitation to make The Changeling, and how wonderful her family is, and her mother’s influence on the role. Clint again spoke about Angelina’s beauty getting in the way of her acting.
Angelina on paparazzi:
ANDREW DENTON: Angelina, earlier this year you and Brad made the decision to sell photos of your twins, for some extraordinary amount of money, to a couple of magazines to raise money for your charitable foundation. How big a call was that for you to in some ways auction off some of your privacy?
ANGELINA JOLIE: Well it’s not, the pictures are either going to be taken by a paparazzi and he’s going to pocket the money and do bad things with it, or it can be controlled by us and put into good causes. So it’s not auctioning off our privacy. Our privacy’s already gone. It’s making a decision of who is going to make money from it, and where is it going to go and we can funnel it to the proper decent channels.
Angelina on her UN activities:
ANDREW DENTON: You’ve gone to a lot of countries in your role with the UN. Is there a story that you can share that gives some sense of why you’re so passionate about this?
ANGELINA JOLIE: I can’t tell you stories without crying or something. You know there’s so, there are just so many. It really changed my life drastically. The first time I went to a war zone and went to Sierra Leone, and I wasn’t a goodwill ambassador and I wasn’t with cameras and I just went and I spent a few weeks, and I saw what what real suffering is and I saw what real survival and real strength of character and really amazing people in situations in the world that I understood there was a great deal I did not know and that I was quite ignorant in many ways.
ANDREW DENTON: How did you come to be there?
ANGELINA JOLIE: I was following the stories on the news, and I just wanted to know more…
ANDREW DENTON: I’ve read your accounts of your travels in places like Jordan and Kosovo and so on. How do you return from places like this with such hardship to a life of privilege, and feel comfortable?
ANGELINA JOLIE: Well, I think people have this idea of what my life is. They’ll see some movie event and they’ll think that that’s my life. My life is waking up with my children.
ANDREW DENTON: Look sure, as any of us though would return to a life of privilege compared to the hardship.
ANGELINA JOLIE: Sure, but I’m saying my daily life is one of being a mother, and that is my constant. Right, so wherever I am, whatever I’m doing that’s my constant and so when I go to those places, when I choose to go to those places I never forget that I’m grateful that I can go to those places and I can leave those places. And I have the financial ability to go in and even make a change in those places and do things with intentions of those places and it’s for my children’s future in the world they’re going to live in that I think these extraordinary places and people should be strong and wonderful and be all that they are should be allowed to be as human beings, and being given a fair share.
Clint Eastwood on meeting his wife, an anchor woman:
ANDREW DENTON: You’ve both met people who’ve been in the last little while have been catalysts, who changed your lives. How has Dina changed your life Clint?
CLINT EASTWOOD: I’ve been married once before, and I was single for a lot of years and I actually liked it. I was at the stage where I was starting to get like one of the guys who’s figured now this isn’t so bad and then one time she interviewed me it was after Unforgiven and it had come out and the show had done well and so she came and interviewed me. She was an anchor woman for NBC affiliate in Monterey, and I looked into these big brown eyes and I went “hmmm” and I didn’t think in terms of where this was going to go. I just thought this was interesting but it took a year or so before we actually ever started going out on a exclusive basis. I was just kind of saw each other around and reintroduce but she was just always there and then when we started going together it just hit me one day just sitting there I said I wouldn’t mind getting married again and this is the gal.
ANDREW DENTON: And what has she changed for you?
CLINT EASTWOOD: I was just living for my work and and for what I was doing whatever that was and wherever I was going. It was just I can go play golf anytime I wanted, I can do you know but I all of a sudden wanted to be connected. We didn’t know that we were going to have kids, we never even discussed that but on our honeymoon she started feeling a little ill and I thought is this something I’m doing here. But we’ve just we just loved it all along and she’s special person.
Angelina on how Brad completes her and she didn’t expect to find him:
ANDREW DENTON: And how about for you Angelina? You, a wild child for a long time. How has Brad changed things for you?
ANGELINA JOLIE: I hate these things cause I figure he’s gonna see them, and I’m busted.
ANDREW DENTON: Talk in code.
ANGELINA JOLIE: I had been a single Mum, I’d been married before and then I was kind of in a similar way. I mean I had a little boy but I was kind of in a stage of my life where I felt like I had tried marriage, I’m on my own, I’m raising my kid and my kid’s my life and and I guess I’m just going to be on my own and this is what it’s going to be, so I wasn’t looking for somebody to complete me in any way, but I met him and I just enjoyed my time with him, more than I enjoyed being alone suddenly. I see you with Dina, it’s the same. He’s that great friend and partner I like to talk with and laugh with and then more importantly I saw him with my son and I knew the type of man he would be and talked about family and we have this same, which is I think the most important for a couple, we have the same sense of how we see the world and how we see family and how we both want to build the same thing, we both have the same idea of what we should be spending our life doing and making.
Enough Rope – a full transcript and video is available on the website.
The final question is asking one thing they wanted to do in the future. Angelina wants to fly across the Sahara and raise good kids. Apparently she had planned to ride a camel across the desert but she saw someone’s behind who did it and it was chafed.
Clint wants to continue to raise his family well, and also keep working as it keeps him young. And to never play golf!
I appreciate that she got to speak at length about her UN activities, although I would have liked more detail about what it is that she’s actually doing there. I think she’s simply visiting and mostly raising awareness through her opportunities, judging from footage I have seen in the past.
I also thought her comment about the paparazzi doing something ‘bad’ with the money they earn from her pictures reveals something about how she feels when they chase her. At first I though ‘yeah, because paps don’t have families to care for, or a mortgage they’re paying’, but maybe she does see them as the baddies. To her they probably are.
Angelina Jolie is shown in a GMTV interview on 11/18/08. Credit: WENN. Header is of Angelina and Clint Eastwood at the Changeling premiere on 10/5/08. Credit: Bauergriffinonline