There are so many follow-ups to country singer Mindy McCready’s tragic suicide on Sunday that it’s hard to know where to start. Many outlets are focusing on the story that Mindy was currently under investigation for the death of her fiance, David Wilson, who died of an apparent suicide by firearm about a month prior, on the same porch where Mindy killed herself. Mindy was not officially declared a suspect, although police had not ruled out murder. Some of Mindy’s statements were contradictory after the fact.
Mindy denied any involvement in David’s death
In an interview with the Today Show following David’s death, Mindy cried and appeared very distraught, and she denied any involvement in Wilson’s death. The truth expert at Eyes For Lies watched Mindy’s interview and wrote that “I see oblique eyebrows and true sadness, but I am pinged by one element. And while that element is not enough for me to say anything conclusive, it is begging me to look at more.” In the interview, Mindy denied that David was cheating on her, and when asked if she was the one who killed him she said “Oh my God, No. He was my life.” She didn’t say she was certain he committed suicide, though, admitting “I don’t know,” when asked if that was the case.
Mindy was working on a suicide prevention video
Just prior to her suicide, Mindy was working on recording a suicide prevention video with one of her friends, a private investigator named Danno Hanks. Danno told E! Online that Mindy was most likely reaching out to him to send a message that she was considering suicide herself, and that he bitterly regrets not seeing the signs. He said “She said she wanted to put together this video to help people deal when someone had suffered a suicide in their life and God, she was literally having me write her suicide note. If I had known, I would have made sure someone was there with her all the time.”
A friend recorded Mindy discussing David’s death
Danno also shared with E! a recording he made of his last phone conversation with Mindy, in which she described David’s last moments. Mindy is audibly crying during the call as she talks about begging David not to die and missing his last two hours in the hospital because the police had taken her away to administer a ballistic test for gunshot residue. She was also incredibly upset to have lost custody of her children to foster care on February 6, calling it “the cruelest, most awful situation I’ve ever seen. I just can’t even imagine it.” The call was very difficult to listen to.
Mindy’s ex says her suicide wasn’t a surprise
Mindy’s ex boyfriend and the father of her 6 year-old son, Zander, has spoken to the press about her death. Billy McKnight said Mindy’s suicide didn’t come as a surprise to him because he was “around her when she attempted suicide twice, so I knew it was in her.” He also said that he would like to care for his son and for Mindy’s other son, 10 month old Zayne. He said “Zander shouldn’t have been taken from me to begin with. He was taken out of Florida, and he has a happy home here. I can provide for him, and it’s just been a really big mess and enough is enough. He’s up there all alone. He has no family in Arkansas. He has plenty of family who love him here. He needs to come home.
Mindy’s ex wants custody of his son
“I would like to keep those boys being brothers together and try to turn my son’s life around. He’s had a rough first six years, and he deserves better than this, and my heart’s broken for him right now. I’m very worried.” Thank goodness Zander’s dad is willing to step up. I’m hoping he’s genuine about it and that he’s able to be a decent parent. It’s hard to tell.
Mindy was the fifth Celebrity Rehab contestant to die
Mindy was the fifth former Celebrity Rehab contestant to die tragically. Many are placing the blame squarely on Dr. Drew and the ineffectiveness of his program, including singer Richard Marx who compared Dr. Drew to Kevorkian and then apologized. In his apology, Marx tweeted “I went too far with the Kevorkian crack. It is, however, my opinion that what Dr. D does is exploitation and his TV track record is not good.”
Dr. Drew responds
Dr. Drew’s response was to point to addiction as a disease that went untreated with Mindy. He said “I’m certain she’s not the last [to lose their life to the disease.] If somebody has a deadly disease that requires chronic treatment… [and] are not, everyday, involved in that treatment, their life is in danger today.”
At least the guy could have acknowledged that Mindy required more follow-up. After five deaths you would think that Celebrity Rehab would recognize that their participants need ongoing care. I understand that they’re not responsible for keeping addicts sober, and the show’s participants are very hard cases. These are people who come into it with deep, longstanding addiction issues that are not going to be resolved in a few weeks. When someone who attempted suicide at least four times is successful, it’s not her old rehab’s fault. That doesn’t mean that the rehab was decent, though, or that even the best rehab could have prevented a tragedy.
This whole situation breaks my heart.
This is a very sad tragedy!!!
This is a very sad tragedy!!!
I have lots of issues with Celebrity Rehab but blaming Dr. Drew is not right. Addiction is an ongoing chronic disease and needs regular maintenance. There’s never an easy answer to “why?”
This is very true, but the show by its very nature is extremely exploitative. Celebrity addicts deal with a lot of realities that regular people might not, such as the “yes” culture (no one ever turns you down for fear of being cast out of the $$ circle) and the rampant narcissism of people caring about what you’re doing, paps, that sort of thing. Those issues can’t be addressed by a TV show, because it just plays into their narcissistic self importance.
Also, one of the things many people don’t realize about addiction is that every time you fall off the wagon, you pick up where you left off – you don’t start back at the beginning, so the fall is hard and fast.
Very tragic situation all around. I hope her boys get a lot of counseling and love and don’t become tools for people going after any monies she might have left behind.
When I went to treatment, we were told —-not that you pick up where you left off, but that if you go back to your addiction, that is, pick up drug use or whatever again, your disease has progressed all the while. They described it as a tiger inside of you that keeps growing. The tiger sleeps when you are sober, but it still grows. If you waken the tiger by going back out-back to your addiction, your addiction condition is much worse, as the “tiger” or addiction has continued to grow all the while.
I watched the season of Celebrity Rehab she was on. (It was the only season I watched.) While I agree that Dr. Drew is exploitative, at no time did he ever tell these people they were cured. He was very honest with them that this treatment was just the beginning, and that they would need to continue with some kind of support.
I think it’s unfair to blame him. These people have/had serious issues. Whether or not they should work them out onscreen could be debated, but addiction is a twisted thing.
It’s ironic that most of us common folk think that if one has the $$ for treatment, it makes it easier to get help. I think that can be true. I also think the having $$ also means you can get really good drugs.
It’s an individual’s choice that makes the difference. Serious addicts aren’t usually strong enough to make rational choices. There’s usually something deeper going on.
If anything, I hope this terrible thing brings mental health issues to light. The stigmas need to be taken away so that the deeper issues can be addressed.
It’s just such a bummer. I hope the kids are taken care of.
@Zwella Ingrid, I like the the sleeping, growing tiger metaphor. It’s a good description.
@Zwella
I know exactly what you mean, and what they say is true. When I got out of treatment, I relapsed, and it was incredible the escalation. I went from a strict opiate junkie to a garbage disposal, willing to do any drug that would get me high, I went right off the deep end. My tolerance hadn’t decreased, and the hunger of my disease had increased exponentially. I overdosed shooting cocaine, staved off the OD with ativan just so I could finish the last gram of coke when I had already done 5 grams that day in the vein. I was never even into coke before rehab.
I was out of my mind.
It took a while more of out of control behavior and consequences, but I eventually realized for the first time that DEATH was a very real possibility for me if I didn’t stop.
@vvvoid: Thank you for being so open about your experiences. I’m glad you are still with us.
Does he deserve 100% of the blame? No, but I dont feel bad for him at all. Exploiting people who are weak and vulnerable is disgusting, and it ruined any chance of Dr Drew having a good guy image. I was a fan of the guy before the show, but it takes a special kind of scumbag to exploit the sick. Outside of the fakers (you know who), were the rest really in the state of mind to even accept the offer to be on that show?
Wasn’t Billy the one that beat the hell out of her, almost killing her? No doubt that she had serious mental health issues, clearly. The last few years of her life were messed up. I believe that this women had a very sick and sad life. She needed serious help, not get her on my show for rantings help. This is a tragedy. My heart goes to her boys. They need a warrior who will be a protector for them. Sadly it seems that no one has done that for them yet.
Yes, he was arrested for attempted murder. But then they got back together. Maybe this guy isn’t father material.
Yes. In yet another case of a man breaking down a bathroom door to commit domestic violence on the object of his affection, Billy said he was going to kill her, she ran to the bathroom, locked the door, he bashed it down. He then grabbed her by the hair and simulataneously punched her and beat her head into the headboard. One of the punches caused blood to burst from her nose and she couldn’t breath. At that point he put one hand around her neck and lifted her up, she couldn’t breath and almost passed out. She tried to get away and he tackled her to the ground while she laid there bubbling up blood instead of air. And then he left. It wasn’t the first time he had beat her, she been hospitalized several times before, but it was the last.
http://www.oprah.com/relationships/Mindy-McCreadys-Deadly-Denial/2
Billy Beater is a POS of the first order. It’s disgusting that he is being quoted everywhere as an expert on Mindy. Her parents have been taking care of the boys because the Judge does not feel that Billy is father material. Those boys need to grow up together in a safe home without violence and chemical abuse.
Yes. And who the hell cares what he has to say? She made her own choices, no doubt, and I’m not saying he was solely to blame, but her downward spiral began when she got involved with that POS. He can f off as far as I’m concerned.
If people are broken and want to end their life there is very little anyone can really do to save them. People keep saying what if, or talk about after care, more rehab and all of that, but the reality is nothing really could have saved her. The will to live comes from within and her children would have continued to suffer long after this had they had to bear witness to her living without getting and wanting help.
Edited to add: she tried comitting suicide while pregnant with her first child as well, but lived. The dog could easily have turned out to be them at any given moment. It’s lucky that she had them taken away from her, thank goodness they were in foster care.
Forgive me for saying this, but why is someone suicidal having children? That bugged me with Kurt Cobain too. You don’t wake up one morning and decide to kill yourself. You work up to it psychologically for years. I’m not criticizing someone for having addiction and mental health issues. I’m questioning their choice to create new lives they aren’t emotionally capable of caring for.
@bettyrose…I’m plagued by this very thought too. Knowing she had so many struggles, having children seems like the last option for someone who cannot even care for themselves. However, as with love and life, often times pregnancies aren’t co platelet planned but welcomed anyway. I have no doubt she didn’t love her children, and maybe they gave her hope, but without proper self love it was futile. I am happy she at least didn’t take them too, as so many do.
Because people get knocked up all the time. Because it “seemed like a good idea at the time”. Who the hell knows. But it’s obvious you don’t need to be intelligent, or mature, or responsible, or clean, or self-supporting, to have kids.
the answer is always the same – because people are selfish, didnt you know? its a great thing the kids WERENT still in her care either.. or she very well could have killed them as well. she took out the dog, yes? no sympathy from me. mental or not.
As someone who has dealt with depression for most of my life and attempted suicide twice, I can tell you as a mother, you are not always in that space. There are times when you think you’ve conquered your demons, when you think you’ve gotten over the hurdles that made you think that way. I’m sure for many women, when they find out they’re pregnant, it’s almost like being born again themselves- vowing to do it right this time. Some are not successful. Granted, it’s awful that her children have to suffer and my son has kept me from doing anything stupid, but you can’t make a statement like that. Suicide and depression are not rational. Don’t expect someone in the throes of depression to make rational choices. BTW-You can say the same thing about ppl on foodstamps…why bring a child into that? Saying that stuff is just ignorant for the full spectrum of issues that are present.
I agree with you bettyrose. Children should not be born with a job. It’s just as wrong to use them as a welfare or child support meal ticket as it is to expect them to help emotionally heal a parent. Having children when you KNOW you are prone to suicidal depression is the height of selfish irresponsibility. Little kids are incapable of understanding adult issues like clinical depression–all they know is that life is miserable and terrifyingly unpredictable.
The fallout from dealing with an emotionally unstable parent in early childhood lasts a lifetime. I’m 47 years old and living proof of that.
I’m just going to chime in here, and hopefully no one jumps on me. Mindy McCready had many problems, most of which made her a less-than-ideal mother. But it was way more than just depression.
But the kind of mental anguish one has to be in, in order to commit such a final act, is enormous. I know this because once upon a time, I was so severely depressed that I had planned my suicide. At some point, when things were darkest, my desire to live and be happier somehow overrode my desire to die. And I asked for help. It was just that, and nothing more. Had I not had that one moment of wishing I felt better, I would not be here now, commenting. But I have some idea of what McCready must have been feeling when she pulled the trigger.
Mind you, I’m not using this point to excuse her addiction – she had many opportunities to get help, and chose not to continue with the help she had received. I’m not justifying her staying in an abusive relationship. At some point, you have to consider not only your own welfare, but that of your child(ren). But she was sure by the end that she wanted to go. This was not a pill overdose where someone might find you and “save” you. It’s a gunshot wound to the head.
And on a last note, I don’t for one moment feel like my having severe clinical depression should exempt me from the joys of motherhood. I don’t think it would be an act of selfishness to have children. And I do take issue with someone calling the choice to become a parent selfish, just because that person suffers from depression that has at some point made them suicidal.
Having said all that, I can acknowledge now, in looking back, that committing suicide is one of the most selfish acts one can commit. Everyone else is left behind to deal with the wreckage and guilt. That realization is what has kept me so aware of my own mental state since I did get help – I would not ever want to live like that again.
*ends rant, gets off of soapbox, and goes back to admiring hot celebrity dong*
*slow claps Izzy*
Izzy, the point is, the “joys of motherhood” cannot possibly outweigh the suffering of children raised by a mentally ill parent.
And until you’ve been in Mindy McReady’s children’s shoes, (or similar) you cannot possibly know what it is to grow up with a mentally unstable parent.
Agree with Issue and Meg13. Happy you’re still here Meg13.
Marie, I agree that the kids had a very unstable and unhappy childhhod to this point, and that McCready herself was largely responsible for that (I don’t know what roles the fathers might’ve played in that).
And no, I don’t know what it’s like to grow up with a mentally ill parent. I am truly sorry that anyone should ever have to know that.
But unless you’ve been depressed to the point of wanting to take your own life, you couldn’t know what it’s like to live with that burden.
Having said all that, McCready obviously knew she had major issues – why else would she have agreed to rehab of any kind? And since she did have at least some awareness of it, she had an obligation, as a person and as a parent, to seek help so she could be a better parent for her kids.
In that regard, she failed spectacularly, didn’t she?
Mental illness certainly played a big role in that failure, and you can’t blame someone for being mentally ill. But yeah, you can hold them responsible for not getting the treatment they need. And on the flip side of that, mental illness can also really impair your ability to function.
Someone below pointed out that the issue is very complex, and it is. But I completely understand how someone who had a parent like McCready would have strong feelings in one direction about it. After all, it’s our life experiences that shape our perspectives.
@ Little Darling. I have to comment on your idea that “the reality is nothing really could have saved her.”
Absolutely not true. Very few suicides are absolutely determined to die. Most just feel like they have no other options.
My favourite poignant (true) story is about a retired guy who lived across the road from a very large cliff with a very small fence. He’d get up in the morning, and keep an eye on the cliff through-out the day. He talked down literally hundreds of jumpers. His big secret? He’d simply offer them a cup of tea. It didn’t work all the time, but the majority of time it did. At the crunch, give them another option, ANY other option, and most suicides will back down.
(Tea ain’t gonna fix the underlying depression, but if you talk someone away from the edge, then they can get treatment.)
@marie, first let me say that i’m sorry you were raised by an unstable parent. My husband had one of the most horrifying upbringings one could ever imagine, yet he is one of THE most loving people I’ve ever met. He feels as though his experiences have made him more empathetic and he was excited to have children and give them the wonderful childhood he never had. As much as I hate his mother for what she put him through (and allowed others to do to him when she was locked in her bedroom drunk and drugged out), I’m thrilled that she brought my husband into the world and that he was able to become a wonderful person in spite of his upbringing. People like my MIL and Mindy may be beyond help, because they have no interest in getting better. The drug and alcohol dependencies exacerbate the depression and it becomes a vicious cycle that ends in death (intentional or otherwise). However, people who suffer from clinical depression and suicidal ideation aren’t always beyond our help or incapable of parenting a child. With proper help and medication, it’s possible to lead a productive life (which includes parenting children). Mindy clearly had MUCH more going on and sought solace in alcohol and drugs. She shouldn’t be held up as an example of why mentally ill people shouldn’t be parents, because everyone suffers differently and some are capable of overcoming the disease. I went through a bought of clinical depression as a teen, and it turned out to be related to a hormone imbalance due to PCOS. I’m glad someone thought I was worth helping, and didn’t write me off as a clinically depressed person unworthy of becoming a parent.
@izzy, thank you for sharing your story. It was very brave and indicative of your strength and desire to overcome your struggles.
@Lecrezia, great story.
Mort – thank you! ^^THAT is what I was trying to articulate. There are different kinds of depression and different causes – not all of them render someone hopelessly selfish or incapable of being good parents.
I am so sad about this.
Dr. Drew is horrible and obsessed with himself. Is he to blame? No, addicts are ill and vulnerable to self harm and relapses.
I do hope that the children will be put in a home where they will be loved and cared for. And that they will be able to stay together.
When were the kids taken away from Mindy? And why was the older one taken from his father? It just seems odd that they were taken from her and the older one was not placed with his father.
Good lord. Those poor kids. I hope they’ll have lots of love and support dealing with this baggage.
Luckily they are so young and children are so very very resilient at that age. I’ve read that we have very selective memories from before the age of six, so hopefully the world will right itself for the two of them now that this has all happened.
The loss of parents is horrible, but the loss of toxic, unstable parents gives them a fighting chance to gain the love and care that they need. I don’t think mindy was able to be a mother or caretaker to them, and would have done much more harm than good.
Agreed, they have a chance for a stable upbringing.
I work with kids with psychiatric problems. I see patients frequently who are struggling with parents who’ve died, often from suicide or a drug overdose. It can have horrible repercussions. I think what she did is absolutely horrendous and selfish.
agree
Did Mindy’s boyfriend have gun residue on his hands? Isn’t that how they could tell if his death was or was not a suicide?
Her poor boys. They’ve already had such unstable lives – I hope they end up someplace calm with someone sane.
I read mindy was distraught about being taken away from him to do ballistics tests for gunpowder. Not sure how long that takes.
sorry to speak about the dead, but I am pissed at this woman for shooting her dog in the head, dead.
You can do what you want to your life it’s your life, but how dare you assassinate an innocent creature along for YOUR drive to end it all. No doubt that your dog provided you undying loyalty, compassion, companionship and affection…how could you take that for granted?
you may have been love lost with every person if your life but your dog i’m su
This is not an unusual occurrence when someone commits suicide. Clearly she wasn’t in a good place mentally to be thinking about the dog.
Yeah,agreed, don’t get me started!
I feel the same way Erika…there is much left to be desired about her actions. When I found out she tried to overdose while pregnant with her older son I almost lost it…especially when she was seemingly so righteous about them being taken away from her. I wonder why she couldn’t have left the dog with someone?
I’m so happy her kids weren’t with her at the time. I have no doubt that since she shot her dog she might’ve harmed the children as well especially since she tried to commit suicide while pregnant. So very sad 🙁
Why did Danno Hanks record his last conversation with Mindy? Doesn’t seem like a real friend to me, just someone who was planning to further exploit or even blackmail her if she had admitted to something criminal in the phone conversation. Why would a “private investigator” be interested in creating a suicide prevention video? Sounds really shady to me.
+1
I’m not surprised she was suspect. I’m surprised we’re still talking about this. Obviously, she was suicidal for a long time & she succeeded.
I saw his interview. He didn’t say he wanted to raise the other boy. He said if her parents got custody of the youngest boy, that they only lived an hour and a half away from him and he thought it was important for both boys to stay close, and that if he has custody of his son that he would make sure they stayed in contact with each other and had a relationship with each other because they’re brothers.
I dont understand, why didnt this woman just stayed away from men focus on her singing career and her boys for a while??? especially since she cared so much about them??? not only did she brought this chaotic life on to herself but to her poor innocent children and ultimately her dog! WTH???
I remember watching a small part of the Barbara Walters interview with her years ago and thinking ‘this chick ain’t right’… I feel so bad for the kids but now they might actually have a chance for a normal life…if they can keep that dad away from them..ugh, what a mess…
I find it so odd that no one (including Mindy) ever came forward to say David had been showing signs of depression, extreme stress, strange behavior – SOMETHING to support the idea he committed suicide (besides the bullet in his head).
Skuddles, its not a complete surprise that he showed no major signs outwardly. Like I said above, I was once that depressed. But life still went on, and not one single person knew how badly I was feeling, not even my parents, until I reached out to them for help. Even my therapist was amazed that I had managed to stay so outwardly functional. It really was an Oscar-worthy performance.
Having said that, I do think there is something odd about the boyfriend’s death. Them testing HER for gunpowder residue sets off all kinds of alarm bells, doesn’t it?
I completely see your point Izzy… I went through an extremely difficult period myself when I was in university. I never told anyone how bad it was, not family or friends – not even the guy I lived with at the time – although, in truth, he was also a big source of my stress… I still can’t help but wonder why Mindy didn’t see some indications of David’s troubled emotional state if they had as close a relationship as she suggests… but I also accept the possibility he just hid it very well, even from her.
@Meg13: I can relate and agree with you completely. Mental illness and depression cannot be fully understood unless you have suffered from these conditions yourself. I’m tired of people saying she did a selfish thing. When you are suffering such intense anguish, you can’t make rational decisions. When you are at your lowest, common sense goes out the window and you may very well choose to either self-medicate with drugs and/or alcohol, or decide you can’t go on anymore. I would like to believe that if Mindy had been in a good place and stronger, she would have thought of her children and sought medical help. I know she attempted to do this, but she must have been in an extremely bad place when she chose to leave the hospital. She obviously did not have a strong support group to turn to and never developed coping skills to get through the bad times.
@Stinky: Being an animal lover, I can’t believe she killed the dog either. Animals and kids…? Who does that? Again, I have to guess that she just wasn’t thinking, and if the children had been there, I don’t believe she would have done what she did. However, I could be wrong. Case in point –the Yates-Hutchence suicides that happened over a decade ago.
You may remember Paula Yates, the British Talk Show Host, who killed herself by overdosing after losing her partner, Michael Hutchence of INXS fame, to suicide (whether his was intentional or not is another story). Paula had long battled her own demons: drugs, alcohol, depression and mental illness. She had lost custody of 3 of her 4 daughters after going through a bitter custody war with her ex Bob Geldof. Prior to her death, she was in a deep state of depression and abusing drugs; still grieving for Michael and fearing she would also lose custody of her youngest daughter. Yates OD’d while her 4 year old daughter with Hutchence was in the home with her. In fact, that child, Tiger Lily, was the one who first found her mother. Fortunately, that didn’t happen in Mindy’s case, but the similarities are remarkable: fame, depression, mental illness, loss of a loved one, loss of their children, scrutiny by the press throughout their lives, initial scrutiny by the police concerning their involvement with their respective partners’ deaths, etc…
Both stories are tragic and both resulted in the loss of human lives. I don’t think you can put blame on a doctor for not being able to help a patient, but I think you can blame a society that stigmatizes mental illness and makes it difficult to get the necessary support and treatment one needs in order to avoid tragedies like the ones mentioned above. Something needs to be done.
*Sorry for the book.* Too much coffee today. I promise not to be so “wordy” in the future. 🙂
Don’t feel sorry – it’s a sad situation overall.
+1
I’m also tired of people saying Mindy probably would have killed her children too, given half a chance. (Not to pick on anyone here; I’ve heard many people voicing that opinion everywhere.) She didn’t kill her children. Aren’t the things we know she did bad enough that we don’t need to imagine new crimes and pin those on her too?
I’m an animal lover and think it’s horrific that she killed her dog, but asking why makes as much sense as asking why some guy on the corner wrapped in a blanket is ranting about Jesus. People who are out of their minds are out of their minds! Mindy’s brain and life were deeply broken. She killed herself. Approximately 75 people do it every day in the US. The last thing they need is more stigma, more blame, and more shame.
Maybe she thought if she died there would be no one to take care of the dog and it would be better off dead? I know that’s sick and twisted thinking. Certainly there could have been a relative or a friend or neighbor who could have adopted the poor dog.
I’d say that’s exactly what she was thinking when she shot the dog. “I won’t be here to look after you, and the world sucks, so you’re better off being dead too.”
It’s warped thinking, but not “evil”. You’ve got to put yourself into their mind-set: if you believe life is so terrible that it’s better to be dead, then in a (twisted) way, it’s actually kind to put others out of their misery at the same time.
I’m definitely not condoning murder-suicide (even murder of a dog), but it’s pretty easy to understand the warped logic.
I think one reason people don’t get help is because of this “selfish” accusation. And I think mental health professionals really need to talk about that more. Like, what is the depressed mind thinking when it commits these acts? It does seem selfish and maybe in a way it is, but at the same time, it’s not because the depressed mind isn’t functioning rationally and has no sense of perspective at all. Or it’s so stuck in a rut, that even if the person realizes they’re being selfish, they can’t get out of that rut.
I’m not explaining it right, but I just feel like the whole selfishness thing needs to be really explored and talked about more. Without making accusations or judgements or what have you.
I’d never, ever dream of saying “you were selfish” to someone I knew had attempted suicide. I’d assume they were suffering and mentally ill, and did the only thing they could think of to end the pain. Selfish wouldn’t even cross my mind.
However, I didn’t mind the idea being spread, thinking that it might discourage someone from a suicide attempt.
Now I’m second-guessing that, because you’re right … if that narrative becomes totally entrenched, it might make someone feel too guilty to admit suicidal ideation.
Any chance she killed the fiance because she had planned to kill herself after? Or, maybe they had planned to die together and she chickened out while he succeeded? Seems like the police are having trouble ruling her out concerning David’s death/alleged suicide, whereas her suicide was deemed as such almost immediately.
Mindy’s adult life seems to be a story of wasted opportunities and bad choices. She had great success during the late 1990s, but it was reported that her high-profile relationships distracted her and she lost not one, but two, recording contracts with major labels. Within a couple of years after that, she began making headlines for all the wrong reasons.
Just days before this latest tragedy, her father had the guts to go petition the court on behalf of the children. Given what happened to the dog, and how she previously stated she viewed the older boy as her property because she gave birth to him, those innocent children might have been harmed as well.
Mindy was a beautiful and talented woman.She acted freely on her own with her poor choices she made throughout her life. My impression was she saw herself as the victim, with no accountability of what she was doing to her children and family as a result of her poor judgement. I found her selfish, self centered, and manipulating. In one of her last interviews she states all her suffering she continues to have in the long run will build a lot of character. Not taking any respondsiblity as to why tragedy keeps following her. She speaks out about her boyfriend David Wilson and says the bullet that killed him couldn’t be found at first because the dog had it in its mouth. Really??? Than when ask if she thought it was a murder or suicide she says I don’t know. Mr Wilson’s family is left with not only the grief from losing their son,but haunted with questions and doubts about how he really did die. Just another long list of people hurt and left behid from Mindy. Mindy quoted her life was big from the go since she was young. Everythin came to her. A bit egotistical. Having a relatioship at 15 with a ball player and making a porn movie in her younger years is evidence that her poor choices she made started long before her drug and alcohol.addictions.
I am sorry for Mindy, but I am more sympathic for all her family,children, friends who were hurt and suffered as well at the hands of Mindy’s continued poor choices and behavior. Addiction requires owning it, looking at the whole picture and seeing not just you in it,but all the other sad faces surrounding you that are in it with you as well.