Duchess Kate’s mom claims the royal baby will be born under the Leo sign

This is nothing major, but there are several smaller Duchess Kate stories percolating through the system. The most interesting piece (I thought) came from The Telegraph’s gossip guy, Mandrake, who wrote a mostly pro-Middleton propaganda piece about how Carole Middleton is a “heroine” for finding a lost dog. That part of the story is blah – I mean, if Carole found a lost dog and returned it to the owner, good for her but I don’t understand why we’re hearing about it unless the Middletons really did hire a PR firm to get them better press. But, hidden in that story is this interesting tidbit:

Meanwhile, reports that Carole’s first grandchild is due to be born on July 13 appear to be wide of the mark.Kate Middleton’s mother has told friends that the baby will be a Leo. The dates for the star sign, whose characteristics include loyalty and ambition, are July 24 to Aug 23.”

[From The Telegraph]

Let’s say that this is true and Kate’s due date is maybe August 1st. Let’s do the math… she would have gotten pregnant around the end of October/beginning of November then, right? Which means that Kate announced her pregnancy when she was at most five weeks along? Granted, she was sick and that’s why they announced it so soon in the pregnancy, but I’m definitely throwing some shade at something, somewhere. Anyway, a Leo would be nice. My mom’s a Leo. Bill Clinton is a Leo too.

As for the nursery plans, there are mixed reports. Will and Kate’s Kensington apartment is still undergoing renovations, and there were stories that Kate wanted to move in with her parents after giving birth so that her mom could help take care of the baby (in lieu of hiring a nanny, allegedly). Now there are reports that Kate and William are going to live in Nottingham Cottage for a few months while the Kensington Palace apartment gets completed, and that the baby’s first nursery will be “humble” because “Kate felt it wasn’t worth the money to go all-out.” But the nursery she’s planned for KP is “indulgent” allegedly. Sources also say that Kate “wants the baby to sleep in their room” for the first few weeks, which…? Is that really scandalous?

Also, Morrissey is yelling about Duchess Kate again, this time about her love of foie gras:

It isn’t nice and you shouldn’t do it

Congratulations to Prince Charles for banning foie gras from all his functions.

However, unsurprisingly, this most savage and cruel commodity continues to be the favorite “dish” of smiling mother-to-be Kate Muddleton (from whom, in fact, we expect no less.)

Foie gras production is illegal in the UK, yet the ever-so-correct Fortnum and Mason have found suppliers in France who will keep their shelves stocked – possibly with the hope that smiling Kate will wobble in and place an order for her unborn child.

Since Fortnum and Mason are now the only department store in London who are associated with the pitiless atrocity of foie gras, would you please write to them/contact them and exert pressure on them to stop selling such a savage beyond belief “product”.

[From Morrissey’s blog]

I’ve never tried foie gras. It’s just duck liver that’s especially rich, right? And it looks like cat food? Yeah. I know it’s supposed to be decadent or something, but I’ve never felt the urge to try it. But before Morrissey praises me individually, he should know that I have had a decades-long love affair with bacon.

Photos courtesy of WENN.

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  1. Katren says:

    Kaiser, the production methods of foie gras are extremely cruel and inhumane. Good on Prince Charles for banning it from his functions, but no wonder waity doesn’t give a shit about anything than herself as usual.

    • Dan says:

      Oh it is delicious and horrific all in one…
      But really, not all the animals you eat are killed humanely as much as you’d like to think they might be.

      There was a huge uproar in Australia a few years ago about cows that were exported to Indonesian abattoirs… The people in charge of killing the animals were absolute psychopaths – if the animals didn’t die through electrocution, they’d stomp their heads, kick them, bash them etc. It was disgusting. It was all over the news!

      And if it’s happening in Indonesia, it is definitely happening in many other places around the world.

      Foie Gras is not the be all and end all of animal cruelty.

      • Katren says:

        Yes I remember that. I only commented on foie gras since that is mentioned in the post. Do we really need to accept all animal cruelty? Can we not say that one thing is terrible without someone saying ‘well everything else is too so this doesn’t matter!’

        And animal cruelty is the reason I’ve been a vegan for 14 years.

      • Mich says:

        That is true – and why a lot of people (myself included) are very careful about what kind of meat we eat and where we buy it from. I buy from a local butcher I trust and ask upfront about where it comes from and how much he knows about the abattoir used. Foie gras, veal and battery chicken are forbidden in my house and my children are fully aware of the disgusting practices of McDs and KFC. Also banned are any GMOs, hormone and antibiotic tainted milk, canola oil and a variety of other ‘food’ stuffs invented in the last 50 years.

        p.s. That cow killing story just turned my stomach!

    • only1shmoo says:

      Actually, the production of fois gras is no more cruel than anything else that goes on in factory farms – in fact, I would argue that it’s even more humane than factory farming. I’ve seen fois gras farms and the ducks and geese actually have space to move, fly and see sunlight. They have no gag reflex, so the force-feeding isn’t as awful as one might think.

      Now consider the millions of chickens, cows and pigs that spend their entire miserable lives eating, sleeping and defecating in cramped pens before being brutally slaughtered. Trust me, fois gras birds have a much better life than the the animals raised for the grocery store deli, but for some reason the former is no longer PC.

    • Emily says:

      No of course you can be outraged by whatever you want but why hi-5 him for banning foie gras if they still consume other foods which very well may have come from animals that were poorly treated?

      Trust your butcher as much as you like but they’re running a business so….

  2. Anna says:

    Well, thanks. Now I want foie gras (it’s really amazing – as a seared slab or cold pate; so sue me).

    The thing that saddens me the most about the Royal Baby is that there will be a dearth of Kate Fashion Porn for months and months. Boo.

  3. CS says:

    Foie gras is rich because they force feed the duck in order to make their livers swell. It’s absolutely barbaric and I’m with Morrissey on that one.

  4. Eleonor says:

    The first time I ate foie gras was around 1996 (pre internet era) and I didn’t know what was that delicious thing.
    After I’ve discovered how it is done, I don’t eat it anymore: does it taste good? Yes for sure, but It’s something we can live off.

    • Larissa says:

      It is really delicious, and I do allow myself to have the occasional foie gras when it is offered to me. When I buy more expensive “open air” chicken eggs my friend laugh as why the hell do I give a shit about chicken and how they are farmed. Well I do, most of you would still go for the cheaper mega farm eggs. So no judging!

  5. LadyMTL says:

    I adore foie gras (there’s a resto here in Montreal that makes some foie gras dishes that are practically a religious experience) but I feel too guilty to eat it any more. I still can’t stand Morrissey though. :P

    Anyway, as for Kate’s baby being a Leo…makes sense. Leo is from end July to end of August so there’s a pretty wide time-frame there.

  6. teehee says:

    Actually, Bill Clinton is a Leo/Virgo cusp. Thats what gives him the whole ‘different kind of a leo’ vibes and charm.

    • Dan says:

      You don’t actually believe star signs do you…….

      • Anna says:

        Believing in horoscopes is kind of similar to following celebrity (royal included) gossip: you project your own ideals & expectations based on a set of assumptions accepted by the wider public.

      • Amelia says:

        To each their own.
        There are far worse things you could believe in.
        Scientology, for example.

      • teehee says:

        You don’t actually think that the earth and living things on it aren’t influenced by the greater solar system, the same way water and living things are affected by the tides and cycles of the moon and the light and warmth of the sun?
        Astro is no science, and it doesn’t need to be based on any arbitrarily assigned planet; the only principle to me is that there is a discernable pattern and it isnt a stretch to me, to maybe associate it with what shows a similar pattern- ie with the movement of planets, upon which our whole system of time is based and only through which our existence is even possible. We are definitely not stronger than a massive planet- such as to be immune to it and any effect it may have (magnetic, electric, gravitational) and we definitely can’t outwit a black hole or the bending of space and time— so, I’d say ‘so be it’ before I’d think I was above it :)

        And edit: Astrogoly is NOT equivalent to horoscopes or predictions. I just recognize types of personalities, but I have no interest in anything predicting the future or psychics etc. Two different categories to me.

      • TG says:

        I think it is fun to talk about astrology and read up on signs but I find people who swear by it a little nutty. I feel like for every attribute a person is supposed to have under a certain sign you can find it in another person born under another sign. I am a Leo and was born in the year of the dragon and I have nothing in common withy sign or year. I wish I did though because Leo’s are supposed to be leaders and successful. I hope the royal heir is born on my birthday.

      • ViktoryGin says:

        Astrology is a system of correspondences that is rooted in thousands of years of observation. It is not a science nor is it a religion much to its credit. An astrolger typically don’t claim that the relationship between plantary movement and earthly phenomenal events is a causal relationship, but a synchronic one as planetary positioning is macrocosmal.

        I think the the fact that only thing most know about astrology is “sun signs”, due to the generic sun sign “horoscopes” that one finds in the back of bullshit mags like Glamour. And this not legit astrology anymore than Taylor Swift is legit country music. I’m an amateur astrology student that’s been studying off and on for 7 years. I got into it because I DIDN’T believe due to bring quite the rationalist. And while it is not an infallible system, there is ABSOLUTELY something there. ( Once you begin to understand how to work with house systems, latitudal/longitudinal coordinates, the archetypcal patterns that are represented by the planets and how they change according to which signs they posit, the truth begins to emerge).

      • FLORC says:

        Thank You! Astrology and the Sunday paper horoscopes are just for fun. Astrology is so complicated and takes mathematical skill along with many charts detailing what VictoryGin said. It actually gets quite specific if done properly. Sun and Moon signs are used improperly for fun and it taints many people’s perception into thinking Astrology is just silly.

      • bluhare says:

        I must admit that I’ve had my chart done by an honest go goodness astrologer who did not know me, and the information she had was nothing short of amazing. (And I’m not an idiot who believes everything she’s told.)

  7. HH says:

    While that’s sweet of the Prince, but… doesn’t he hunt? I find hunting for sport to be cruel. Yes, hunting is a natural part of the “circle of life” (if you will), but AFAIK all other animals hunt for necessity, not sport. I think it’s cruel to kill for fun.

    • Erinn says:

      I think as long as they’re using the product of the hunt well, it’s not so bad.

      My fiance and his whole family hunts. They don’t wake up and think “Oh gee, I’d really like to murder a cute animal today – Killing is so great!”

      I’m sure some people DO think that way, but I assure you, not everyone hunts for that reasoning.

      They hunt for food. His grandparents raised his father and uncles on next to nothing – hunting was a necessity. Every autumn they hunt. They divide the meat up between them, and next to nothing goes to waste. I love animals, but I understand why they do what they do.

      That being said, we’re moving into a new house in July, and I told him that if there are any deer on our property, he can’t touch them. I can’t eat something that I “know”.

  8. Laura says:

    I find it hilarious that Prince Charles bans foie gras but continues to participate in hunting. And likely eats other forms of meat.

    Animals live WITH us, not FOR us. Whether it is foie gras, bacon, hamburger or chicken nuggets, murdering and consuming other beings is wrong. And those who believe their meat is killed humanely are naïve — don’t believe me? Visit a slaughterhouse sometime. Perhaps if people had to hunt, kill and prepare their own meat versus rolling up to the drive-thru window at McDonald’s or tossing a package of pork chops into their shopping cart, they would think twice about eating animals. There truly is no need to consumer animals or animal products. I have been a vegan for all of my adult life and have had excellent health.

    If we would not want other species killing and consuming us, why do we continue to do it to others? Why do we consider some animals to be companions and others to be used for meat and/or material for furniture and clothing (leather, suede, fur etc)? There seems to be a massive lack of compassion for the lives of animals used for meat. They do not feel any less pain or fear than we do, or that our “pets” do, so why do we treat them as if they do? When someone is filling their face full of bacon, does he or she consider the possible suffering, fear and sadness experienced by the pig killed to make that bacon? Pigs do experience fear and are highly intelligent animals.

    I hardly expect the royals to give a shit about anything or anyone but themselves, since the whole idea of royalty is a ridiculous and unfair. The duchess seems more concerned about her hair and wearing expensive clothing versus the suffering of other humans, much less animals. That whole family is nauseating and in need of a massive overhaul. Whenever someone says “we are all equal”, I have a laugh and point out the many different ways that statement is, and always will be, false. If we were equal, royalty would not exist, as they are not seen as equal to us “commoners”.

    Anyways, my point is that no animal — human or otherwise — deserve to be slaughtered for meat. Animals should be free to live their lives without the fear of becoming foie gras, veal, hamburger, roast beef, chicken nuggets, pork chops, etc, etc.

    Of course, I realize this is just my opinion, so I know not everyone feels the same way. I wish they did, but I know it won’t ever happen.

    • LAK says:

      I am a life long vegetarian for the very same reaason. Mind you, it helped that I love vegetables, even as a child, but once I made the connection between daisy and the meat on my plate when I was 8ish, I couldn’t, wouldn’t touch it.

      I have periods of veganism from time to time, primarily because I can’t give up milk entirely. It’s the only animal product left in my diet, and only as an addition to a cup of tea. Nothing like a good cuppa….*sigh*. I’ve experimented with all the different ‘milks’ on the market eg soya, rice, coconut, but it isn’t the same.

    • FLORC says:

      It’s not bad to eat meat, imo. I grew up on a large farm. We knew the butcher down the street. We treated our animals very well and the butcher was extremely humane giving the animals sedatives before killing them. Human consumption friendly sedatives of course. We only slaughtered what we would eat. Often, the sheep would just be raised for wool and died naturally. Same with goats only we milked them. And on holidays we would donate fresh meat to a food closet.

      I respect the choice to be vegetarian or vegan. Especially if you can’t be sure how the meat you might consume was killed. I just don’t want all people to assume farms and slaughter houses are like Auschwitz. I live in another state now, but only eat meat that I can trace back to the farm/butcher house. Sometimes Whole Foods is the easiest to get that info.

      How Foie Gras is made though. To starve or force feed an animal is terrible and if you can look past how your food lead a horrible, tortured existence from birth to death so you could have an unhealthy, decedent is shameful, imo.

    • CC says:

      Prince Charles: “Do what I say, don’t do what I do”

    • bluhare says:

      LAK: It was Russell on my plate. :)

      FLORC: Your farm is the type of farm I could deal with . . . as long as I wasn’t around when the animals were sent off to slaughter.

      And I’m in England right now, and all I can say to Americans who think British food must be terrible is you’ve never been over here and had fresh vegetables. They’re amazing. Taste totally different!! The new Cheshire potatoes are starting to hit the shops and I can hardly wait. :)

  9. stou says:

    You gonna be a lion king, my son !!

  10. teehee says:

    My problem with foie gras or ANY meat product, is that it doesnt HAVE to be produced cruelly. Greed for money produces the “necessity” of those living and breeding conditions imposed on teh animals. Such greed also breeds ignorance to teh fact that to disease and batter the food we put into our own bodies, is completely stupid as it will only make US battered and sick too.
    I’m all for letting a duck be free in a field and live a happy, healthy duck life with a loving owner, even if it will become pate later on– no mistreatment or abuse is necessary for that pate to come out at the end. Its sheer cruelty through and through, to mistreat the resources we rely upon for life- but that is mans signaturure- all flora and fauna and even non living resources are being massively abused. I think all of mankind has “short man syndrome”.

  11. Tania says:

    So, does that mean that Kim K is also due in August? I thought they were pregnant around the same time. KK looks like her water could break any minute now.

  12. lisa2 says:

    Every time I see pics of her I feel like I’m on a field trip going back to the 60′s. Make that picture of her in black/white and you will see what I mean.

    I just find her very uninteresting. I read some of the treads to try and see what some of you are seeing but I just don’t.

  13. Mandy says:

    That “hat” she’s wearing gets on my nerves! I know that’s their style across the pond, but it just looks like it’s put on wrong and about to fall off!

  14. JustVisiting says:

    Covering this was really just a way to play the “Find the vegan” game, wasn’t it?

  15. Jacqueline says:

    As for the nursery, I have a hard time believing that Kate has a problem going to the expense of anything.
    The Middleton’s 100% hired a PR firm. I just think it is very curious that they’re spinning the Duchess, when the palace could easy do that instead.

  16. carol says:

    why does she always have the weird guffaw of a smile?

  17. FLORC says:

    To the bit about Kate wanting the baby to sleep in their room… That is totally normal! I hope it’s true. I do fully believe that the Middleton’s have a PR firm trying to build them up in the public minds. As far as Kate wanting anything humble for her or her baby is just talk. The day these stories don’t have to be printed of her intentions and we start seeing her actively doing these things is the day I believe it.

    I’ve been reading a few books on how Charles and William were raised. By the sound of it Kate might want to be a hands on mother, but the nannies will be more skilled and eventually ween the child off of Kate unless they attend a family photo op. They will have tutors as well and then go to boarding school. If Kate really does take to being a mother she might get furious at not being able to raise her child as she wants. I would.

  18. Renee says:

    I haven’t eaten meat in 25 years.

  19. Emily says:

    Morrissey’s obsession with Kate is incredibly creepy.

    Here’s a “savage and cruel commodity”: chocolate. Let’s hear what Morrissey has to say about the child slave labor that goes into harvesting that. I wonder what kind of electronic devices he uses — made in China? But it’s a lot easier to dump all over Kate for foie gras than it is to try to change society worldwide, so that’s what Morrissey and his ilk do.

    • FLORC says:

      Morrisey seems to “dump” on a lot of people for various things. And mostly legitimate reasons too. Kate is a target for many reasons, but she is not his only target.

      I look at your comment as you attacking the messenger because you cant attack the message. He is right about the food and the treatment of animals. No one should eat it and especially not those in the public eye. Those that have their food paid for by the people.
      Morrisey is a jerk. A loud mouth, but he’s right here and Kate should be ashamed. And if you disagree with him you should attack his message. It’s juvenile to attack him and leave the message untouched when the message is valid.

  20. ghoulish_moose says:

    My baby girl is 11 weeks old and sleeps in her moses basket next to our bed. I think it’s totally normal that she’d want her newborn in the same room =)

  21. Amanda says:

    A person born on July 13th wouldn’t be a Leo, he’d be a Cancer. I guess the baby could be a Leo if it’s like ten days overdue though.

  22. Lucinda says:

    I can appreciate people who choose to not eat meat for moral/ethical reasons. That’s fine and I absolutely respect your choice. You will hear no mockery or criticism from me.

    But don’t judge those of us who do eat meat. Please. We are omnivores. Pure and simple. We are capable of eating nearly any food on the planet and our bodies are designed to eat meat. Not as much meat as our society generally does but still. Is the lion unethical for killing the antelope? I believe in letting pigs be pigs, cows be cows, etc. Humanely raising and slaughtering them. Not wasting the food we get for the life that was sacrificed. But to get all over Charles because he hunts is a little self-righteous. If the animal is killed quickly, humanely, and eaten, it’s all part of the food chain.

  23. Simply Red says:

    Don’t love when mums predict the due date.. What’s interesting some mums predict and they were right others not so much..

  24. Jo says:

    Kate eating foie gras is news how?

    • Em says:

      Susprisingly, no one cares.
      Although she really shouldn’t be eating it while pregnant, since excess vitamin A, as found in liver and liver products, can cause birth defects! That’s why prenatal vitamins exist, because normal multivitamins have vit A in them and the risk is too high, so prenatals leave it out.

  25. Tano says:

    August is not Leo anymore, its Cancer.

    The zodiac signs changed a long time ago.

  26. MavenTheFirst says:

    Dolittle looks dreadful.

  27. Bodhi says:

    It is perfectly normal to keep an infant in your room. Its far easier to care for them if you only have to roll over to pick them up

  28. Suze says:

    I doubt the duchess is eating foie gras – far too caloric. Much ado about nothing there.

    They have been carefully skirting the nanny issue since they are still trying to project the “just like anyone else” image but they will have nannies and they should. When (IF?) they pick up full time royal duties they will need nannies and it’s nothing to hide.

    Whenever she flashes that maniacal grin I get a crazy nervous vibe from her.

  29. xxx says:

    It’s a duck/goose liver that is extremely fatty. So a normal healthy liver will be small and a dark purpley/red colour. A foie gras liver is large, swollen and yellow. They force feed the birds to get them that way. I’ve never been a fan of ultra fatty foods so I don’t like it and I disagree with the production methods. All in all, I don’t want any products from unhealthy animals, so factory farming, foie gras, even some so-called free range are not for me.

  30. Selena says:

    You know what I get sick of? Vegans and vegetarians being sooo “holier than thou”. I love the old “I NEVER eat meat and nor should anyone that loves animals”. I like most animals, and I eat meat because I am an animal too. I recognise that I have omnivore teeth and an omnivore digestive system. I do not buy products produced in sweat shops and I refuse to eat McDonalds and I gave up smoking because of tobacco farming, my chocolate and coffee are fair trade. I also love my leather handbags and lounge suite. I try to do my bit like everyone else. So don’t get on your high horse at me until you are living a blameless life, then teach me something instead of coming off like a fanatic.

  31. Elly says:

    nothing wrong when a baby sleeps in the bedroom with mummy, but i think it´s time 31 year old Kate stops sleeping in mummys room.

  32. NYC_girl says:

    It doesn’t look like cat food. You’re probably thinking of pate, which can be chunky. If you want to totally get disgusted, just Google it and you’ll find photos of the ducks being force-fed and badly treated. I am not a follower of PETA but it’s horrible.