Kelly Osbourne covers the new issue of Cosmopolitan… for some reason. The photoshoot is decent for her – she looks happy, and she got her boyfriend Matthew Mosshart to pose with her for a cute photo. The Cosmo interview, however, is kind of rough. I’ll admit that I kind of half-heartedly defend Kelly most of the time. I don’t think she’s the best, but she’s not the worst by a long-shot. She’s not as inspirational as she thinks she is, and at times she can seem like a Mean Girl, always looking to start some C-list fight. I can’t really defend her in this interview – she says she wants to win a Golden Globe (for what, I have no idea), she praises Matthew for not dating her for the fame (??) and her quip about having kids will probably upset people.
Her goals going forward: “Happiness and a Golden Globe. What? I’m fabulous. I need a Golden Globe. What is life if you’re not going to live it to the fullest? People think this is my 15 minutes. F–k you. I’ve got an hour.”
Your dad recently spoke about falling off the wagon. How do you feel about that?
“I love and respect that he’s honest enough to say, ‘Yes, I did this. It was my fault.’ He’s a real man. Most people would hide, and he doesn’t. It doesn’t make me love him any less. It took a long time to get to that place, but I understand it now. And my mother does too. We had a TV show about this. Now people are trying to act like it’s a new story. It made me break down and cry when my parents rather than the Boston Marathon were on the cover of the British newspapers. People lost their children from a terrorist attack, and that’s superseded by this bullshit story that is not even real.”Do you want kids?
“I do want babies, but I don’t want a great big vagina.”You’ve dated models, musicians. How is Matthew different from those other guys?
“He just wants to love me, and I just wanted to be loved by him. Every single other guy I’ve dated has wanted something from me. They’d call people I know and ask for favors. I’d have to say, ‘Trust me. Telling someone you are my boyfriend isn’t going to get you very far.”You called out Lady Gaga on Fashion Police, and she got angry. Did that exchange upset you?
“I loved Lady Gaga. I totally believed in everything she stood for, until I realized she’s a great big hypocrite. Don’t say, ‘When you see bullying, intervene,’ while letting your fans send me death threats. If my fans did that, I would not stand for it. You can say whatever you want with your millions of monsters. I know the truth. You bells and whistles mean nothing to me. You’re feeding on the freaks and geeks to further your career? Do you really care about the gay community? Because if you did, you’d stand up for it more than you do.”Do you still struggle with addiction issues?
“He’s an addict; I’m an addict. It’s going to be one of those things we battle for the rest of our lives. I take the necessary precautions. If you’re not happy and healthy, it’s not worth any of it. Everyone says sex, drugs, and rock and roll are fun. It ain’t fun. It is not something to glorify.”
I actually co-sign what Kelly says about Lady Gaga, although I think it’s interesting that Kelly only turned on Gaga when it affected Kelly. Gaga’s Monsters were really nasty to Adele too, and Gaga barely lifted a finger. And Gaga’s messaging about body image and self-love is all tangled and all over the place too. As for Kelly not wanting a “great big vagina”… er, discuss.
Photos courtesy of Cosmopolitan.
I’m child-free and that comment offended me. That’s a pretty disrespectful thing to say about mothers and women in general.
Also, she sounds incredibly vapid and immature saying shit like that.
it offends me too!! and my first immature thought when i read that was, “well, YOUR FACE is a great big vagina.” so, there’s that.
That offends me as well. She’s a spoiled rich kid who’s parents have overly fed her ego. Although I do agree with her comment about Lady Gaga.
Me and my big vagina are getting ready for work. excuse us.
LOL @ Someone’s comment.
Lol! Well said.
great comment buddy..ROFL
ok so, it’s not just me.. thank goodness. the moron annoys me.
Right. As if the responsibility of carrying a human life in your body while protecting and nurturing that life, along with the frightening and stressful act of delivering that baby safely into the outside world isn’t enough for women to think about, now they have to worry about their biscuits being “tight” enough after going through all of that?
I feel like comments like the one she made just further the notion that women have to be perfect at all times. It’s not enough to *just* bring a human life into the world, you have to come away from it being a perfect physical specimen too.
*slow clap* She really needs to stop talking.
Please. I wouldn’t mind having a kid, but the last thing I would want would be to have is my junk hanging down low or have it completely stretched out. Now granted, those things are hard to avoid if you give birth naturally… but still. Gross.
And I wonder how can people get mad at her for saying that? Why not get mad with the thousands of other women out there who obviously feel the same way and get vaginoplasties (or whatever they are called)? They aren’t any better than her.
Not to mention… it was a funny comment. Lighten up.
“but the last thing I would want would be to have is my junk hanging down low or have it completely stretched out.”
Really? That’s the LAST THING you would want to have? Well, as long as your priorities are straight.
Man, kids these days…were all of y’all just sleeping in high school health class? Because I think we need a refresher course on female biology.
Umm I guess I’ll get hell for this. Isn’t that the fear a lot of (not all) women without kids have? The rates of planned births via C-section has skyrocketed because women wanted to “save” their vagina, not for emergency or health issues but purely for vanity. IF I have kids, I don’t plan on it being via C-section, but I can’t lie that vaginal birth and its effects doesn’t terrify me. I’ve always been scared of having a huge popola if I have kids, how is that judgemental on moms? Why am I wrong for not wanting my body to “fall apart”, as my mother says, after baby? Yes I bear the burden of carrying LIFE, but comfort in my own skin is part of what makes me me. Is there something I’m missing here? Women can be so harsh with women over body issues on both sides of the conversation, *sigh*
@MCGraw-Most educated childless women don’t fear that as it’s a fallacy that post-childbirth your vag opens up like a black hole and never goes back. It’s simply not true.
Secondly, within the context of childbirth and child-rearing, I can honestly say that even if it were true, my vag stretching out is the LAST thing I’d be worried about. The things that bring me fear are my kid being born with major health issues or stillborn, not being a good mother or giving my child exactly what he/she needs to become a well-adjusted adult, my child being abducted/hurt/killed, my kid being a bully or hurting another kid, etc.
These are the things that give me pause when it comes to giving birth, not the condition of my biscuits.
@TheOriginalKitten: very well said, thank you. And it is indeed a fallacy that your vag stretches out and never comes back. It was irresponsible of Kelly to be tossing that zinger out, as some people clearly (why??) listen to what she has to say.
I’m in my mid forties and childless (what an awful term) but not by choice. Like many women a hysterectomy took pregnancy off the table for good and not enough time to freeze eggs before the surgery. It was and still is tough to make peace with never knowing pregnacy and holding my biological child. Adoption hasnt been an option due to other health issues. With everything I’ve gone through and watched others endure (and lose their LIFE to) I can honestly say I would sacrifice vaginal tightness to have give birth and be a mom. Yes, it’s not pleasant as friends have said BUT more than worth their kids according to them. A vagina can be tightened. If Kelly ever gives birth and holds her child for the first time my guess is her ‘worst fear’ will seem trivial.
@ The original kitten: maybe you mean “informed” moreso than “educated”, as that certainly wasnt anything taught or learned in any of my classes, either BSc or MSc level. Thoughts along the lines of Kellys are really just a product of societys’ constant bashing and objectifying of women. We’re never good enough, always shameful somehow, no matter what we do. This just adds to the stack of ways women are made to feel bad about themselves. Granted, being childless I also fear what pregnancy can do — but seriously WHAT woman DOESNT have some degree of far or uncertainty about something so huge and intimidating! The more qualms you already have, the easier it is to be shaken up by whatever crap is floating around out there.
Look, It’s personal. If a woman doesn’t want a stretched vag, she shouldn’t be put down for saying so. If a woman wants to have a vag-plasty, it’s really none of your business!
You’re not any better because you judge someone for their desires or actions. You’re not any better because you could look past the stretching of your vag and see the beauty in childbirth. And it doesn’t mean somebody can’t see the beauty of life if she doesn’t want a stretched vag. If you give birth naturally, stretched vag is inevitable. It’s only normal to mourn the loss of this thing you have had (and probably been praised for) forever.
We don’t really have the right to judge others on their feelings about their vaginas, FFS.
A great big vagina or a great big MOUTH, take your pick, girl.
@gee money vaginal rejuvenation is possibly the last frontier when it comes to insanity about women’s bodies, by themselves and others.
Any woman who has given birth vaginally is currently laughing (and no we aren’t leaking ) at chicks like you who are so clueless and out of touch with their own anatomy and the reproductive process that they think their vagina is simply an accesory for some guys dick.
Oh please… most of you women on this site are so ridiculous and judgemental that it’s not even funny. Smoke some pot (or find something to do that will help you to chill the eff out) and learn to laugh at some funny comments. It’ll do wonders for you.
Ok pandora, judgemental mommy brigade is here. Instead of informing women keep laughing without leaking. I’m with@GeeMoney and smokin a doobie TOODLEZ!
Just because I smoke pot doesn’t mean I have to act like a moron, kiddo.
…and I refuse to take advice from anyone that uses “TOODLEZ”.
TOK no one was talking to you, so keep your condescension and insults to you and your household. You’re a judgey mom who needs humor. And just because books say that your vagina tightens back up after baby naturally or with kegels, that is not what women in my family have experienced. It is not what women and mothers I know have experienced. I’m as educated on the subject as I can be and it still frightens me. So wtf is your problem? Sit in a corner and eat a biscuit.
ETA ok you’re not a mom, but you’re coming at me in a nasty way for no reason. I thought Pandora got stank for no reason and addressed that.
Judgement. That’s precisely what it’s about. Clearly some women feel judged about the size of their vagina (there’s no vaginal scaling system as far as I know, so it’s all completely subjective) and are so anxious about it they pay doctors tens of thousands of dollars to remedy a problem that exists only in the imagination.
I’m fairly relaxed right now, stoned or otherwise, because I’m not worried when I’m having sex that the man who I’m having sex with is thinking about the dimensions of my vagina :). I hope all you ladies are feeling the same.
Standing ovation 👋for @original kitten, @pandora and all of the INFORMED posters on this thread. I’ve had two children vaginally and my husband has NO complaints. Now TMI time, so if you’re sensitive you can skip this part, but he has pointed out that he enjoys it more post babies because I’m “moister” (I’ll spare you his exact verbiage). After having children and getting in touch with what my body is capable of, I’m more sexually confident and we both reap the benefits (in fact, we have just as much sex if not more than we did before). Either way, I don’t exist merely to please him and if he didn’t like my lady parts post baby, I’d just go find a dude that would be a better “fit.” 😉
McGraw-I’m a “judgey mom”? Really? Did you read my first comment where I said I’m CHILDFREE?
There are 30+ others on this board TESTIFYING to the fact that it’s not true. Maybe instead of trolling and telling me to “eat a biscuit” you should be educating yourself about LADY biscuits. If you’re going to make ignorant statements on a public board, people will call you out. It’s the way it works here and if you can’t handle it then simply don’t comment. Easy peasy.
Does becoming a mother mean you completely lose your sense of humour??!!
What a silly little comment for people to get so upset over.
I don’t understand: what does being a mother or not being a mother have to with it? Women who are mothers and women who are childfree all have vaginas and we all owe it to ourselves as women to educate each other.
Morticia, that’s the kind of response I was looking for. No trolling here. I said in my first comment what hell I may get for simply raising my hand in agreement with Kelly because it is a real fear and there’s so much misinformation out there, including women getting C sections who don’t need it with doctor approval. It’s not even the sex part of it that made me wonder, it was just the part of whether ol girl will be the same or not. Why can’t we have an informative exchange without the mockery and insult and tone that TOK displayed? Anyways, for what it’s worth, thanks for your story.
Holy shit, I always used to think I was a feminist, but apparently because I’ve given birth im therefore defined by my biology and I’m simply a “judgmental mommy brigade” member!!
There seems to be some very very confused women out there. Listen up!
20 years ago, when I was 18 and most women still had pubic hair and weren’t trying to measure up to the physical attributes of porn actresses nobody even talked about vagina size. This whole argument and the idea that women become gaping vaginal canals after childbirth is completely ridiculous.
Quit your pole dancing classes and let your pubes grow back LOL, that’s what taking ownership of your body and your sexuality actually looks like. It’s just that you don’t know it……
I’m definitely not a judgy mommy, but I know I’d rather be that than a genital fascist. No man and no society has a say over my body and how it should be, whether its Roe v Wade or anything else.
When women and girls actually think this kind of body fetish is normal, then we have turned back the clock on women by about 150 years.
But seeing as Kelly Osbourne also hates the rest of her body I guess all this makes sense. Product of her era and her environment.
Reminds me of Melissa Harris Perry talking about millenials attitudes last week on commencement day, apparently if youre one of that generation you might genuinely believe there is no such thing as racism or gender inequality……..
Oh, come on @McGraw, don’t act as if you didn’t insult women by making the statement….”judgemental mommy brigade is here. Instead of informing women keep laughing without leaking.” “Laughing without leaking??” So now you think all mothers have an incontinence problem? You do know, don’t you, that incontinence is not a result of childbirth, don’t you? Many women, and men, experience that problem.
Generalizations and stereotypes tend to get people upset. If we don’t fight ignorance, ignorance permeates society and then becomes the norm. Maybe you are OK with dumbasses dictating what is acceptable, but I’m not.
But that isn’t to say I don’t get a good laugh out of stupid people. Trust me, there isn’t a person on here that is complaining about Osbourne’s kid that hasn’t had a good laugh based on the moronic things she says.
It is true though. My friend’s husband said after she had the kids, having sex with her “was like f—ing air.” So she went and had tightening surgery done and said it was horribly painful with a long and difficult recovery. It seems women just can’t win.
They’ve been divorced for 15 years now.
Most women DO “leak” to some degree after childbirth, especially after multiple vag deliveries. I’ve had the honor of being present at hundreds of births thus far, and while I still find it awe inspiring, there’s no denying the “aftershocks” most women sustain in the vag-rectal area. I disagree that for most women the damage is extensive or ruins one’s lady parts, however, those expecting to be exactly the same post birth should readjust their expectations a bit. Anyone who makes the following statement: “I’m actually tighter now than I was BEFORE childbirth” is either delusional, a liar, or both.
did she skip health class?
my vagina is just as tight after a vaginal delivery with forceps.
our bodies are made for this and snap right back
+1
Ive had this conversation with friends who have talked to their specialists about it. Some women are more prone to vaginal laxity after delivery regardless of age (for various reasons) but older women can generally also have a harder time recovering tone. Kegels are helpful and worst case there is surgery…just choose the surgeon carefully. The women I’ve known with this issue have had very supportive, mature husbands who get it can just happen and you deal with it.
Any “health class” based in statistical accuracy would actually characterize forceps delivery as high risk for post birth complications such as incontinence or nerve damage. I’m happy you feel you’re “just as tight” now as you were before your delivery, but I’m concerned that mothers to be are fed loads of misinformation, often by other women. You may have had an problem free outcome, but that’s not typical for a forceps delivery.
She’s already got one….to match her ginormous Quagmire face.
giggity
giggity
ahaha i literally just burst out laughing at that comment…she totally looks like quagmire..GOOD CALL
Thank you for everything you’ve said about this, OK!
I actively dislike Kelly Osbourne but I feel compelled to defend her on the vagina comment. I’m also childfree and see absolutely nothing wrong with openly admitting that you know damn well that natural childbirth can result in a less than factory perfect situation below the belt line. It’s one of the THOUSANDS of reasons why I don’t want children. Now, was it wise of her to mention it in an interview? Of course not. But, if you enjoy sex with your pre-childbirth settings you may be reluctant to augment your, shall we say, calibration down yonder? It’s a harsh reality for a lot of women who give birth multiple times and she should have left it unsaid but it is what it is…
Spooky,
I get what you’re saying and I respect your opinion but why are you talking about yourself like a car???
She sucks. You nailed it with the vapid comment. She thinks she’s clever saying that? She is transparently spoiled.
The comment was definitely stupid, she clearly doesn’t understand female anatomy. That said, I like her and people have said worse crap.
Kudos to Original Kitten (as always) for calling it like it is. I remember when not too long ago, this spoiled, entitled little beast criticized others (who didn’t like her purple bouffant hair) for having “mom hair”, like all of us moms have hideous hair! I think this nasty little girl has an inferiority complex from growing up in an area where tall, leggy, beautiful girls are a dime a dozen, so she has to criticize someone else to make herself feel better, and for some reason picks on “moms”. I got this same stupid vibe from Laineys (eg “minivan moms” are stupid & always fooled by People mag) and stopped reading her years ago. This attitude is very prevalent in the ent biz (eg Bill Maher). I have no problem with people staying single or choosing to not have kids & hope they enjoy their lives to the fullest, but for those who have to constantly sneer at parents, don’t forget that when you’re old, it will be our kids & grandkids that will be paying for your SS, being your doctors, nurses, farmers, & everyone else you need to keep your society going and providing your needs. So, a little respect for parents please!
ps: her “great big vagina” theory is total crap. Kelly, time for you to grow up and quit harping on other women!
I have 3 kids and I can guarantee I don’t have a great big minge. Having said that, a lot of childless women tell me that, for them, having kids naturally is probably not on the cards, as they have a real fear of their vagina being stretched and loose afterwards; they and their partners would hate this. I’m not surprised that Kelly feels this way.
Some ladies are/will go down the Caesarian route. Are they too posh to push? I don’t really care.
@TheOriginalKitten
You are my hero!
It is her vagina, and if she doesn’t want it turned into a slack canyon, then GOOD ON HER.
She has the right to say anything she wants about her own body…and you can’t say that giving birth won’t change her private parts.
I would only take offense if she was ragging on MY vagina.
LMAO @ great big vagina. I’m childless but that is really the last thing I would worry about.
Right? Same here.
Maybe if it does happen she could use it to steal someone’s Golden Globe…she’s certainly not getting one for talent.
Yeah, really! A big vagina is not high on my list of concerns LOL.
Although her comment sounded ignorant, I really don’t think she meant any harm by it. She’s rich and lives in La La land-it seems to be much more common for women in that demographic to talk about and get vaginal rejuvenation surgery. I’m middle class and live on the East coast. I don’t know anyone who has had or has even talked about wanting to get that surgery done. The priorities are different.
Wow, didn’t really want to know that. I guess Cosmo’s readership has slipped and they now have pander to the pathetic.
I always knew Cosmo had a lot sexual articles, but this is just vulgar.
Honestly, I’m more interested in the fact someone apparently thought it was a good idea to make a sequel to The Devil Wears Prada than whatever comes out of Kelly Osbourne’s mouth.
@Amelia
let’s hope it’s only in book form. sounds like it’s not a movie atm. hope it never becomes one. leave TDWP alone
I LOVE her hair color!
Because it matches the hair on your troll doll?
I cannot express how deeply I despise her hair color. The longer she keeps it, the more I hate it.
He’s not with her for the fame?. She means the boy looking at the camera instead of looking at her in the picture?!
Yeah, I wonder about him, too.
Good call!!!
Well you’ve got money for vaginal reguvination so shut up! I didn’t need the mental image of your purple haired vag!
Yeah…because when you’re chasing your two year old around all day you’re totally dwelling on your “great big vagina”. Get some perspective Kelly.
Great big vagina??? Ug! I can’t believe people are that stupid! Pushing out a baby can actually make the vaginal muscles STRONGER, and tighter. Sure, the first week or so after giving birth everything is all stretched out, but it snaps back into shape.
^ Cosign! Childbirth does not leave you with a canyon for a birth canal. It’s a muscle. It’s supposed to stretch!
Then again, if her whole logic is “I don’t want a big vagina” then she probably shouldn’t be having kids anyway.
yes, it’s a muscle and you can do kegels to get it back. It’s stupid informative notions like Kelly’s that lead women to want unnecessary c-sections. But when you cut through muscle like your stomach, you can’t exercise it back for a while.
Seriously. Her comment is really a bit ridiculous. I have had one child vaginally (forceps assisted as well!) and am due any day with my second.
Everything was the same after! In fact, I don’t even think it looked any different. My husband says (I just asked) if he noticed any difference and he said not one bit.
Our body is quite an amazing thing. And these tissues/muscles for birthing babies are *made* to stretch and accommodate the birth of a baby. And like the uterus, they will go back down to their usual size. No flapping around. It all goes back.
You have a very nice husband. He should be divorced if he made you uncomfortable about you privates.
She is already a big TWAT
Heehee
“I do want babies, but I don’t want a great big vagina.”
Kelly you’re an idiot and that’s all I got.
LOL! I think a lot of women worry about that before having kids.
It’s a really personal thing, though – I know a lot of women who are tighter after having kids – we don’t all need a Brandi Glanville to keep it tight, lol!
I agree— its normal to fear how childbirth not only feels but impacts your body. Very, very normal. But there is both a lot of misinformation and a lack of information- women arent as close as they used to be and are kind of lost in the arms of modern medicine when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth– hence we get just a few odd bits of info here and there, and it usually isnt reassuring
I did worry about it but I didn’t assume that it happens to all women.
Having a kid or two is not going to ruin your vagina. What does affect it is quite simply the aging process. It will expand, loosen, maybe drop and change shape during menopause from the lack of estrogen as you get older. Even if you supplement with estrogen, it will change. Most vag rejuv ops are for middle aged women. And this is what all women can expect, not just those of us with kids. The aging process gets us all, including men, including beautiful people, including spoiled brats of celebrities. So live your life how you want when you’re young, and don’t worry about aging or changing, because its inevitable.
Your response is the most sensible and accurate post today. BC (before child) It never occured to me to be worried about having a loose Va jay jay after birth. I thought that only happened to women who had 7 and up babies. My biggest concern was stretch marks and my breast falling: None of which happened. And my vagina went right back to it’s original size and shape. Menopause however is kicking my a$$. Now that is something you really need to woryy about!
A big gaping chasm of a vag was the last thing I was worried about. My 25yr old self couldn’t handle the thought of poop being squeezed out when the baby’s head made it’s way down the love canal. Silly, right?
Kelly. Gurrrlllll. There are all kinds of exercises and gizmos to keep that pelvic floor and your child-free vagina nice and tight. Ignorance is not bliss. It’s just ignorant.
She should be more worried about hemorrhoids. Now those are painful and since her family is so fond of plasticky surgery (seriously, her mum looks like the Joker now) she should know that it’s one of THE most painful post op surgeries known to man and womankind.
Have a c section. I did for the same reason!
seriously? A docter agreed with your reasoning?
😒
I had two C sections that were medically necessary. She doesn’t offend me at all.
Lots of women believe that is what happens…and lots of men believe it too. it’s just lack of knowledge about how the muscles work, but some women do lose muscle control from natural birth AND from c-sections. I didn’t, but I know some that have.
You had a serious, invasive surgery based solely on the FALSE idea that a vaginal birth would leave you with a loose vagina?
Just…wow.
Maggie said she had 2 c-sections that were medically necessary she did not say she has them because she feared for her vagina. She even went on to mention the misinformation out there regarding stretched vaginas.
TG, she was replying to China, not maggie
Its my body who are you to judge?
You put the information out there, and I judged your decision because you made that decision out of ignorance and vanity, not necessity.
You’re free to do whatever you want with your body, and I’m free to judge what you do. You’re confident and happy with your decision, own it.
I’m kind of in shock over this too. I would MUCH rather have a vaginal birth, be home less than 24 hours after I had my baby (was supposed to have a home birth, but I had an emergency induction due to stroke level BP), and be able to walk around, no pain, carry my baby, nurse comfortably, etc. than have a major surgery and my insides taken out – all because I was scared I’d have floppy lady parts – something that doesn’t happen.
It’s the comments section of a celebrity snark blog. It’s literally a forum for judgment.
SO ridiculous when people come to share and then whine about being judged.
I had a c-section and would never suggest one that isn’t medically necessary. I was in the delivery room all ready to give birth vaginally when my daughter’s heart rate dropped dangerously low and they had to perform an emergency c-section. I had to stay in the hospital longer, I couldn’t laugh, cough or sneeze for a week without it hurting like hell, I wasn’t supposed to walk stairs or drive for a week, I had puffy, fluid filled legs and ankles and a scar I had to clean every day. There are definitely downsides to a c-section! And even though I want to do a VBAC when I have another, my OB tells me that I will probably have to have a scheduled c-section.
@beesknees – don’t give up on the VBAC. My oldest had a C-section with her second child (she was butt first and her feet were next to her ears) and went on to have vaginal deliveries with her next two children.
Find ICAN meetings near you and a midwife with hospital privelages. I had supportive dr for baby 2-vbac but he wasnt at the hospital and I recieved a fierce opposition and another surgery. Baby 3 and I’m having a home birth w a midwife. The business of being born on Netflix episode 4 is about VBAC. Also birth without fear is a good book (dense but a great read) also a doula is a great tool to have Good luck which ever way you go.
If her main concern is not having a great big vagina then she is clearly not ready to have kids. You’ll have much bigger concerns than that!
She does sound very young and immature in this interview.
Really? Becuase not every woman thiks that being a mother means throwing the rest of her life and body away into mom-dom. I know I won’t want to lose all of myself int eh process and be “jsut a mom”; I still want to be me and have my own life and still enjoy my own body too— does that mean I’ll be a horrid mother?
no it doesn’t, but if concerns about your vagina are why you don’t want kids yet, then you clearly are not ready for the task.
Nobody said that once you have children, you’re not allowed to have any interest in yourself or concerns outside of them. What @zelle said — and which I happen to agree with, even though I don’t have children — is that if your first and primary concern about having children is the state of your vagina, you’re not ready for them.
It’s normal to care about your body, but having a child entails concerns such as being responsible for another human being for at least 18 years; worrying about their health, education, and well-being; figuring out how to juggle your relationships and career and interests with the demands of motherhood. If your first thought is, “My vagina will be stretched,” you aren’t giving the proper amount of time and energy to the most legitimate concerns of motherhood, and you’re probably not ready for it.
I don’t think that’s the point she wanted to make. I think she meant that when you get pregnant you body will never be quite the same again (it could be your belly skin, your breasts, your nipples, your fat distribution, a C section scar, stretch marks, your hair can change, your shoe-size too… Of course not all those things at once but any one of these could potentially happen). And that’s ok because you will have created life and your child will be worth the while. If the trade-off bothers you then maybe you are not ready for motherhood, it is a huge investment after all.
Nobody says you should give up on being your own person or that as a mother it is selfish to work at being attractive. You have every right to all of that. It’s just that you can’t have your cake and eat it. Yes, pregnancy changes you, and if you’re not ready to accept that then you’re not ready to have a child.
Edit : Basically the same as what Faye said XD
Ok Len/faye I get your angle- but no of course that isnt “the only thing” that concerns at least myself, and probably many others– I just used that example though, to make the point of being self interested and STILL being a mother also– rather than go to any extreme, I would prefer a route in the middle– ie, still be there for myself, while also being there for any children (I may or may not have)— but on the coattails of that specific comment.
@teehee — I wasn’t presuming to judge you or others here, as I believe you meant concerned about yourself in a balanced way. But I do judge Kelly because I absolutely believe that was her first and primary thought on having children, and I do think that is kind of sad.
Jeez not that tired old myth again. The vaginal wall inlcudes muscles. Your vagina is tight if those muscles are strong. You could never have had children and still have a “great big vagina”, and you could have several kids and have a tight vagina.
That cliché reminds me of the virgin/whore image people have of women. Having a child is a pretty obvious sign of not being a virgin anymore. Therefore you must be some kind of used, soiled, stretched out garbage that is of no interest to anyone. Right ? How could a woman still be valuable and attractive once she has carried a child ?
Good point– surely the idea IS fueled by men since they are the ones who would “be able to tell”– right!?? I didnt think of that! Thanks!
I think you’re right… The idea must have originated from some men, because I can’t really see a woman obsessing about that without outside influence. I find it sad really. How we are judged and valued only for our bodies, like objects. (Having said that, I am not accusing all men of being that way… Some are awesome and very supportive of the mother of their children. As they should be.)
It probably comes from the small dong brigade.
They’re called kegels, Kelly. Kegels. Do them regularly and your vag will be as tight as a vise, baby or not. I seriously do not understand how there is still such misconception about this! I’ve had 2 kids but my husband has never been happier with the state of my works. Kegels. Seriously.
How do you do them? I mean while sitting, lying down, what’s best?
Do ’em anywhere – in the car, lying down, in line at the bank.
Start by stopping your urine flow several times to get a ‘feel’ for it, then proceed to clench whenever.
I’m doing them now. At work. 😉
In all seriousness, myself and a few girlfriends are in a group text and whenever anyone texts “kegals” we all have to do 20, and at 5’s and 0’s, hold for 10 seconds. I highly suggest this method.
Whatever way is most comfortable for you. I usually do mine at night while watching TV in bed. I also have a kegel exerciser that I bought online. It adds resistance to your muscles for added strength and gives you instructions on how to use it. I highly recommend them and they’re all over amazon!
Kegels and Pilates. Great for the pelvic floor!
Although it is the correct muscle modern advice is not to interrupt your urine flow as that tends to encourage urinary tract infections, sorry Sloane, otherwise I agree that they can be done anywhere.
I think it’s a normal fear, one that mostly goes unspoken. I’m here to tell you that you’ve got NOTHING to worry about. With regular “down there” exercising, your lady bits will be just fine. I don’t even pee myself when I sneeze anymore! 😉
That great big vagina would balance out her big fat mouth! Vapid twit!
LOL 🙂
+1
Bwahahahaha!! BOOM!
She has weird skinny/fat body type. Tiny torso, fat limbs and big head. She and lady gag should be bffs. Both hypocrites. She tried to be singer, model, and god knows what else but the truth is she has job only because her mother. She is not particular bright and funny. She needs a writer in fashin police for gods sake.
She is getting more and more insufferable on FP, her ego is just out of control.
“I do want babies, but I don’t want a great big vagina.”
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that’ll have them lined up around the corner. 🙄
haha ,exactly!
least.interesting.person.ever.
Did she learn about childbirth and female anatomy from 12 year old boys? Holy ignorance, Batman.
I agree that Gaga plays both sides, but she won that argument. Kelly is a panelist on a show that has as its sole purpose snarking on people for their clothes and styling. Kelly does appear to be one of the less snarky ones there, but she’s still there and taking part in a culture that critiques people on appearance. If Kelly is serious about practicing what she preaches, she might wanna get off Fashion Police first.
I think Kelly’s argument about Gaga boils down to “Gaga didn’t tell her fans to stop being mean”…but Gaga DID tell her fans to be nice.
She said in a few interviews, tweets, etc. to not bully Adele, that Adele is an extremely talented person who Gaga herself loves. Gaga also told her fans to be nice to Kelly.
At the end of the day, though, even Kelly has to admit that a celeb only has so much control over people who claim to be their fans.
All I have to say about this is that it was a great reminder to do some Kegels while I’m sitting at my desk.
Thanks, Kel!
Same here! 😀
She fears a great big vag, I fear more idiots on the planet. Perhaps this will work out for both of us!
Best. Comment. Ever.
ROFL! Awesome comment!
She’s just a kid, she’ll grow up and realize some vagina truths and then decide. Common misconception, I’m sure her mother will set her straight – She has plenty of time.
At least she’s honest about her fears. She worked to get weight off, it’s natural to be concerned about muscles and such.
I don’t care who you are, every woman I know worried about the weight and if kegels would work.
I’ll admit the 1st time I saw that chart showing 10 cm dilation in the OB/GYN’s office I was like WTF – oh HELL to the no.
I’m SO tired of vapid, glorious Mommy rants by celebrities, who get lipo’d, tummy tucked and personally trained for a month then act like “and just what is wrong with the rest of you?”
She is almost 30. When do we stop callimg her a kid.
I worried about it. I worried about the pain of labor and tearing or being cut. But it wasn’t a big enough worry to stop me from having kids. Being a good mother was waaaay higher on my worth list.
sHE does’nt want a GREAT BIG VAGINA ???????? and this is coming out from the mouth of a woman who has her hair dyed and styled as a Granny’s?srsly kelly stfu ,bfore u call GAGA a hypocrite ,look into urself and stop disrespecting women
Recently, I hung out with young women around Kelly’s age. This “great big vagina” saying is going around. They look at women “of a certain age” and say “I bet she’s got a big, old vagina that could hold a bowling ball” and walk hunched over and bow-legged. Hey, Kelly, if it keeps you and your age group from spawning, you go with that.
Thats heartbreaking. So theyve exhausted all the other ways they can extort women– already teens get breast implants and hair extensions and starve themselves, already theya re on the pill with 12 to be free for use without the boys having to worry– so whats left? Gee, lets pressure them into having the most inhuman vaginas possible because you know, whatever we want, they give it to us, right? HOW SAD
I do not think that was the intention of what I wrote, or what Kelly said. My message was clear: young women her age are currently making fun of child-bearing, saying it gives you a big vagina. Also, my experience recently with that age group showed me it is a common expression showing their disrespect for older women.
@Sud— Im not tryign to interpret what you said but am trying to interpret what it means of society today when women parade around saying that kind of thing– I was aiming those remakrs at such how women and their men must think, not at you. 😉
And isnt Kelly not that young anymore? Im gonna be 30 soon. its delusion on their part, to imagine anyway, tha they wont themselves one day be older or heaven fobid, theyll have a child too…
I’m gonna have to disagree with you on the hair extensions. I don’t think a teen with extensions is something sad- I think it’s harmless and just a part of experimenting with your look.
I’m on the fence about the birth control issue. I don’t think preteens should be having sex, but I do think the older girls should be allowed access to birth conrol whether parents like it or not. Society likes to assume that teenage girls who have sex are just being used and exploited, and that they don’t really want to do anything sexual, but that’s definitely not the case. That assumption used to ALWAYS get on my nerves as a teen. Not too long ago I was a teen myself. But I agree about everything else.
I think that is one of the most crass things I have ever heard.
Oh, I was horrified. They do not respect women “of a certain age” and are convinced we have big, old vaginas.
My question is where are their mothers? Who spawned these creatures and reared them to have such disrespect for their mother? WTH is wrong with people?
Generally speaking, yes, the vagina does remain a bit stretched after childbirth. Not for all women, but for most. And for some women, Kegels don’t help with this at all.
Forget what men enjoy; there’s a far more important angle to this. With a more stretched vagina, women tend to enjoy sex less. The tightness of the vaginal muscles is related to the intensity of orgasms and sexual pleasure.
It’s ironic that most of the comments on this story express disgust that Kelly would want to remain tight to please men, but not one comment has mentioned the impact that vaginal looseness has on a woman’s own sexuality.
Most women climax from clitoral stimulation, very few from just having a penis in their vagina. This goes for all women, whether you have given birth or not.
Thanks, LadyJane. I posted the same in a reply but with more…graphic language (it was turfed). Ha ha..but yeah, that was the same point that I made.
Actually, there’s evidence that most women can have vaginal orgasms IF the stimulation is done correctly (and by this, I’m talking about G-spot stimulation). The problem is that most positions aren’t really designed for it. But once you make the effort, you’ll never go back (or so I hear).
@ LadyJane: Yes, I know. Please re-read the following: “With a more stretched vagina, women tend to enjoy sex less. The tightness of the vaginal muscles is related to the intensity of orgasms and sexual pleasure.”
The clitoris does not orgasm in a vacuum; the vaginal muscles clench, as does the uterus.
@sam, ladyjane didn’t say women CAN’T climax vaginally, just that most climax through clitoral stimulation. Which is true.
But she was responding to the initial point that stretching after childbirth CAN impact the ability to orgasm. Which is totally true. And the reason most women don’t experience vaginal orgasm isn’t because they CAN’T (most can). It’s because most sex doesn’t provide direct stimulation to the G-spot. If it did, vaginal orgasms would be far more common and we could dispense with the nonsense that most women can’t.
Since we’re getting into the nitty gritty here, I should point out that vaginal orgasms can be easier after clitoral orgasms. We’re taught to have sex in such a male way. It builds and builds until there’s a big “finish.” However, that’s not the way women have sex. For women, that first orgasm can be just the beginning of sex, because we can orgasm multiple times. Typically there is more mutual satisfaction in heterosexual sex when Step 1 is get the woman off.
–this PSA brought to you by a former sex columnist
@Chordy
+1
At least, that’s my experience. Once the first big one is out of the way, a bunch of smaller, non-manual ones can come after. Like a bunch of baby ducks following the mama…
Baby ducks following mama . . .LOL!!!!
Sigh.
I get the feeling that if they made an IQ test mandatory before putting people on the cover of magazines, a lot of them would look like the AC/DC’s ‘Back in Black’ album.
Wow, Cosmo is really sinking to new depths. Kelly Osbourne on the cover, really? You might as well just put Ozzy on the cover instead
I beg to differ, Cosmo was always in the swamp, selling female slavery in women’s lib clothing. Fortunately I managed to figure that out before I was 30….
Classy (not!)
I have two children and I do not have a great big vagina. Women don’t lose the muscle and it does go back after while. I’m sure it does lose muscle the more you have over time. A better choice of words would have been better.
That soooo rude and disgusting to say!!! That is just crude, and offensive to women who have had kids!!! What a bitch!!!!
What an ignorant great big twat.
I gave birth vaginally to a 9.5 lb baby and my vagina is just the same it was before.
Gee. I must have had very strange priorities. When I was pregnant, I prayed that my babies would be born healthy and with no medical issues. I really didn’t spend much time thinking about the size of my vagina. I worried more about the epidural, LOL!! And FYI, while C-sections are great for people who medically need them, they’re not meant to be an option to avoid a vag delivery.
I can’t have children and in the years of attempting to get pregnant I never worried once about the consequences to my vagina. My husband believes there is a “difference” between women who have had kids and not but WTH does he know, he wasn’t exactly Casanova. Regardless, I didn’t worry about that.
I’m sort of conflicted. Full disclosure: I’m childfree and intend on dying that way.
There are multiple reasons I do not want to have children, and the vagina thing is on the list albeit quite near the bottom. Many women experience a tear in the skin between the vagina and anus, and I know of at least two where it did not heal correctly and they needed reparation surgery. Worst of all, it is incredibly painful and at a prime spot for infection. I’m going to assume she was referring to this and not the myth that the vaginal canal never goes back to baseline after vaginal childbirth.
Still, I am of the opinion that people should want kids before they have them, and that includes dealing with all of the unpleasant crap that comes with parenthood. If I wanted children, a ripped taint wouldn’t stop me.
Eh, I like Kelly. I don’t find what she said offensive, and I’m not really sure why some do. What she said may be ill informed, but a lot of women have irrational fears about becoming pregnant and what it will do to their bodies.
Seriously?! Does she know not all babies come in to the world through a vagina?!?!
And even if she did give birth vaginally, she isn’t going to have a gaping hole for a vag for the rest of her life. If that was the case, as she makes it sound, no one would have children!
Side note- I’ve had 2 kids via c-section and I’m tighter than I was when I was in my late teens, early 20’s. Kegels are the best.
Wasn’t there some idiot recently who equated breast feeding with INCEST, because, you know, women’s breasts are for SEX.
What part of women’s bodies DON’T exist for pleasing men?
Now we can’t even use our vaginas for giving birth without being judged on how it will affect our “f*ckabilty”?
AMAZINGLY said. That is the issue; a woman can want her body to recover from childbirth but this particular fear is more focused on what a man would demand for himself. Exactly…. so this is a cross over of two schools of thought, actually, in her words… that brings so much light into the situation and all the arguments its inspiring.
Exactly.
And why are we letting our bodies be so influenced by a porn-consumer-frat-boy mentality? Are we THAT terrified of what men (the ones who are lucky enough to get near our vaginas) will think and say about us? Obviously our bodies exist for more than pleasing men, but just by virtue of being women, we’re eminently fckable already.
+1
Why does it not surprise me that this narcissist would be incorrect regarding the female anatomy? Of course she wouldn’t care about her baby’s well-being by scheduling a c-section. (Not even giving a chance for her body to have a natural birth if there are no medical reasons preventing one.)
The cover photo is going to haunt my nightmares. The rest of the photos are nice, and I didn’t realize how handsome her boyfriend is. That said, he’s not looking at her, and the body language suggests she’s into him more than he’s into her.
Lol, she was just dropped on her head too many times as a child!! Honestly, how could you not laugh at the stupidity of the vagina comment? Ahh Kelly, I do love fashion police – just keep talking about clothes and forget the rest!!
I think Kelly Osbourne’s comment is stupid.
Many women these days have c-sections anyway. I had a c-section. My vag is just the same as it ever was.
I’d be perfectly happy for self-absorbed celebrity women to not procreate, anyway. They should stay out of the gene pool. Thanks Kelly! You are doing the world a favor.
The statement was rather painfully ignorant. She made an ass of herself.
Doesn’t offend me; I take it with the humour that Kelly usually uses but then it could be because I am British. I do find some of the replies thrown back at her hypocritical on these threads. Calling her immature and then making an immature remark about her looks in return makes your argument somewhat void. If you can not beat them then I guess you joined them, hey?
I think she looks great these days- I am usually conservative when it comes to hair colour, but I actually love the colour on her. Would not dare do it to myself!!
Girlfriend needs to get over herself a little bit.
BINGO!
Additional: I will never defend Kelly. She showed how truly spoiled and self-entitled she is when was on the Osbournes.
She had her record deal and recorded “Papa don’t preach”. All she did was cry and whine about having to actually WORK to promote it. She whined about having to get up at 6AM to go on an LA radio show.
I give Sharon full credit. She flat out told Kelly she signed a contract and has to fulfill her professional obligations.
I have two boys, thankfully born healthy. Me and my fat vadge do our best.
Not just you nicegirl LOL! 🙂
She shouldn’t do interviews. She was annoying when she was chubby and she is 10 times worst since she lost weight. For every pound she lost her brain cells went missing too
it amazes me – TRULY amazes me how many women in here actually think that once you have a baby, your cootch is permanently stretched or loose and is no longer the gold she once had. I am here to tell you, I’ve had two kids and my cootch is STILL gold! Dumb women, damn!
RIGHT?! Her comment is just plain uneducated. Kegels, people, kegels. And learning how to avoid all the shiznit a hospital will give you and make you tear b/c your body’s too confused. Natural birth does NOT equal a loose, saggy vadge or biscuit. C-sections do NOT equal an ever-virginal vadge and tone (prolapse *cough) And may I remind everyone, the balls of our counterparts do hang lower as they age. Show some respect and learn basic reproduction 101, miss thang. Glass houses, my friends.
She has a face like a full moon in a fog. She is famous for her parents, was obnoxious on her parents show. Her fashion sense is terrible and she is not a bit amusing on fashion police. Haven’t bought a Copy of Cosmo in years and seeing her mug on the cover would certainly not entice me back. Rant over.
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I have such a great big vagina after giving birth that I am not allowed to sit on chairs anymore after I sat down one time and got accused of shop lifting.
LOL
I hope people scroll down enough to see that comment. Hilarious.
lmao
LOL!
God that was funny. I will lol anytime I remember it 🙂
Thanks for the excellent giggle, my eyes are watering….
Mother of four here – 1 vaginal delivery, 1 C-section and 2 VBACs. Fun fact: I required a full episiotomy with all my vag deliveries. Let’s just say my netherland is all sorts of gnarly now, in addition to its spacious capacity. That said, aside from some minor pain for the first year post-partum each time, sex is a good as ever. I do pee my pants when I sneeze or jump on a trampoline, but so do many of my mom friends. I’m not embarrassed by any of it. Birthing children is no small feat, and I’m proud of my battle scars. Perfect bodies are overrated.
If poor Kelly could ever get to place where she loved herself and others enough to risk sexual imperfection, she will be mature enough to have a baby and/or a great big vagina. And she won’t care, because life is so much more than a dainty biscuit.
You know I get that there is pressure on women to be perfect from the media, so I understand all the knee jerk reactions about her comment – but who the hell cares if she doesn’t want her body effected that way? It’s her body.
Personally, I’ve been through enough pain with my body as it is, and I’m not about to subject it to anymore with children. I’m not going to deal with having stretch marks, saggy breasts and all of that – and guess what? It doesn’t make me a bad person, and it doesn’t make you a bad person because you have done it and you’re fine with it. People are different
Of course every woman has a right to choose. I only joined the conversation to represent the great big vagina contingent, as most of the women here had their lady parts return to normal post-partum. In a way, I was validating Kelly’s poorly expressed concerns.
Obviously you are repulsed by childbirth and its side effects and were probably hoping for comments to match your opinion. That’s no less emotionally attached of a response than those people who are calling Kelly out for being crass and misinformed.
You really can’t win in the comment world – someone will always take offense. Time for me to log off. My stretch marks want some lunch.
@Dreamory, Stretch marks can happen during puberty, or rapid weight gain and loss (including muscle weight) and breasts sag with age. These things happen without ever being pregnant, so avoiding pregnancy doesn’t guarantee you’ll avoid those marks and sags. Also, time is the great equalizer, once you hit a certain age you will look no better than me, QN, or the other ladies who’ve given birth. Also, whenever I’m feeling bad about myself I look at all the slobs who’ve never given birth and look far worse than me (and believe me, there are plenty of them out there)!
Your comments following “I’m not going to deal with…” are so incredibly rude. I wonder what’s going on that you can’t see that, and are comfortable posting that.
So many humans, not just women, deal with ‘sag’ and stretch marks and weight gain, and many for reasons more or less out of their control (puberty, aging, not just accelerated weight gain that they could stop). I guess they want or deserve to deal with that, right? And no, this isn’t an extrapolation or an unfair reply.
I truly don’t understand the desire to wound people with studied, faux-casual remarks by some posters to show that they are repulsed by some women’s bodies. What low, ignorant, worthless behavior.
Child free and will remain that way, personal choice. Before Kelly has kids, maybe she should be educated about what happens to the body of a woman and what care she and the child will need during the process.
You know not all of us women are stoked about the whole process of childbirth – yes she said it in a really immature way but why does everyone have to make it about themselves? It’s her problem.
Personally, I find childbirth barbaric and painful, and the child feels all the pain you go through when it’s born into this world. That’s not something I want to subject a kid to as their first experience on this planet.
That doesn’t mean that you that HAVE done that are awful, it’s just my choice. She didn’t say anything about YOU guys. It’s not all about you, I think mothers can use a little emotional detachment.
Child birth is barbaric? Lmao! Honey you have issues.
Except she’s perpetuating a lie. I mean, what you’re talking about makes me roll my eyes too but what she’s saying is a lie. There’s a difference.
How do you know the child experiences pain when it’s born? Even if you could know that, you surely must know that pain will be forgotten like, immediately.
I’m childfree and will be forever, by choice. There are lots of reasons not to have kids, but that one is just unfounded.
Also, “barbaric”? Is it just a vocab issue with you, or…?
Is what your mother did ‘awful’ in giving birth to you, and then, according to your knowledge of obstetrics, making you feel that pain because of your birth?
Actually, there is some truth to what she is saying. Kegels don’t always help, because sometimes the problem is not in lack of muscle tone but in damaged connective tissue – only surgery can fix that.
In my family, all women who had vaginal deliveries end up with urinary incontinence (a sign of pelvic floor dysfunction), except for my aunt who had two c-sections and has no problems whatsoever. It’s a collegen thing, depends on the genes. So vaginal delivery is natural, but can hurt your health permanently – it only comes out now that women live longer than in medieval times.
Frankly, I understand her. I can’t imagine a woman who sacrifices all to motherhood, including her sexual life. A happy mom (parents) = happy kids.
Personally, I enjoy vaginal sex a lot, and I know that a vaginal delivery would change that – my sex life would not be as good, probably quite unsatisfactory. It’s a question of one’s preference.
Besides, there’s nothing wrong with thinking about your partner and his sexual pleasure, I guess it’s normal when people care for each other. I care for him, he cares for me.
You can talk about ‘sisterhood’, but women love to judge each other, especially when it comes to motherhood and sex life. Sad.
THANK YOU. So at the end of the day, you may be damaged and you may not- you really have no way of knowing. I remember being a young girl and hearing of a family friend who was “torn” down there and had to be stitched back together after birthing her child. So it isnt completely untrue while its also very natural to be anxious; of course maybe the reasons for the rumors are in the wrong place, but, at least it isnt entirely “uneducated” to be aware of the possibility!
Again, thanks.
(edit: I should add that she was a very petite asian lady, who married a tall, big american dude- so the baby was large)
At the end of the day, many women tear and get stitched back up good as new. The size of the baby and the mother very likely have nothing to do with it. The vagina is incredibly elastic. It’s often the WAY the baby comes out that causes tearing and not the size of anything. Also, like I said below, weak pelvic floor muscles do not mean a gaping vagina. Contrary to what the commenter above wrote, kegals are not for closing the hole; they are for strengthening the pelvic muscles. There is no relationship between that and how large your hole is.
She overshared, just like you are doing..
Wait overshared? First we are slammed for not exchanging info with our “sisters” and when we do, its oversharing…
Its true. I had children because I completely abhor vaginal sex. I didn’t know people actually liked it. Go figure.
Lol!!! +1
No. There is no truth. Just like what you’re saying doesn’t make sense. Get a biology book. Weak pelvic floor muscles DO NOT mean a gaping vagina. Christ on a cracker.
Thank God.
I see what you’re saying…I wonder if she was referring to the tearing as well?
I’ve just had two friends split open to their sphincters, neither of them healed properly and both needed surgery. One of them got a terrible infection, too.
As for the sex, I didn’t get the impression it was about her man’s pleasure, like many here think. I got the impression it was about HER pleasure.
I don’t know what kind of men they have, but I’ve always preferred the kind of dude who doesn’t enjoy the sex if I don’t. Maybe it’s the Gandy/Newman type from the other post today. *shrugs*
You “know” vaginal delivery will change your sex life, your pleasure? How exactly do you “know” this? You have never given birth so you don’t know, you just assume because you’ve listened to who knows what and it’s clouded your opinion. Rather than “knowing” without actually learning maybe you should get an education. Incidentally c-sections are not great fun and people who imagine they will make their sex life better by having their guts ripped open are probably being naive.
If it were true, it could match her great big mouth…what a talentless, bad dressing twat.
Wait, people still believe this shit? I always knew she was a vapid dimwit so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised she knows zilch about anatomy. Your vagina generally goes back. The older you are, the more it changes but honestly, your bits are good to go after having a kid. It’s a ridiculous notion that it wouldn’t go back. I read an article on Jezebel recently where they spoke to experts (i.e. NOT Kelly Osbourne) and they explained it was kind of like your anus-hear (read?) me out-that stretches just fine to pass a BM and then goes right back to pre BM shape. Your vagina typically does the same thing after birthing a child.
News flash to Kelly: women’s bodies as they age, including their vaginas, don’t maintain their 20-something youthfulness unless you put in a hell of a lot of effort at the gym, with your diet, and with your kegels. And even then, gravity always wins.
And this is true regardless of whether a woman decides to bear children or not. Childless 50-year olds don’t have 20-year old bodies (or vaginas), same as 50-year olds who have had children.
She’s kind of an idiot.
Well said. I just said the same thing upthread b4 reading your comment!
Amen to that! As a childless 50 yr old, I can tell you that my body is no different from other women my age who had children and who are in the same shape as me. I eat right, exercise and maintain a nice figure, but 50 is 50 and it ain’t 20. Or 30. Heck, it’s not even 40. Age happens. Gravity happens and while exercize, Spanx and the right clothes can make your body appear younger than your years, there ain’t no lying about your age when the clothes come off. You learn to celebrate your changing body (and fabulous handbags!). If young women are worried what childbirth is going to do to your vagina, then you’re going to be super pissed when you find out what Father Time has in store for you!!
LaurieH, can I be you when I’m 50?
Exactly! Age is the enemy of Vaginas not kids. Kelly needs a sex ed class.
I was personally much more afraid of c-sections than vaginal births. I was very glad I didn’t have to have sections. Everyone is different though. As someone pointed out to me, if childbirth ruined you people would never have more than one child. She just sounds uninformed.
All this woman had ever done was to be born into fame and wealth. And instead of supplying us with a minimum of entertainment – the kind that talentless celebrities sometimes provide- she goes around spouting rubbish.
She really is an idiot
Oh, for Pete’s sake. Will everyone just relax? “Offensive”???? She wasn’t speaking to the UN. I’m a mother of TWINS and if anyone says that they don’t care at all about how carrying a baby (or babies)will alter their bodies, they’re lying. It doesn’t mean you’d give up the chance to have children. Lighten up, ladies.
Just posting to say, child free by choice and will remain that way…and I pee a little bit when I sneeze anyway. 😳
(I have had chronic UTIs since I became sexually active. I think the ongoing stress on those muscles has worn them out.)
I agree with what Kelly said about Gaga, but I would probably find Kelly more believable and likable if she weren’t a “bully” herself. She is a giant hypocrite. Isn’t her 15 minutes up soon?
Wow -there’s a bunch of vagina experts on this board! Some women regain their tone, some piss themselves every time they sneeze and have to get a good angle to enjoy sex. If everyone would quit acting as if the information they have is the only correct information and that every vagina is the same, your comments would be more interesting to read.
Furthermore, she said she didn’t want a big vagina – she didn’t say that was her only worry. She was probably making light of a lot of worries. Jeez – so judgy and know-it-all
Have had 4 kids and have to admit I was a bit freaked out that my vagina would resemble a wind tunnel afterwards. Luckily my partner has no complaints and I think its more my worry than his. Everything just needs a bit of time to adjust back to its former glory. On a side note – has Kelly had a chin shaving op? There is definately something slightly different about her look – aside from weight loss.
I had a 9 pound baby when I was 24 years old. There’s no difference in my vagina. That’s patently ridiculous.
She’s a twat.
If it’s “the same”, why so defensive? Twat…really? Why do women routinely misinform and attack each other when the subject is childbirth?
The difference is, the commentator shared an actual experience as opposed to Kelly sharing her actual ignorance. That’s some twattery there.
I had no idea her fiance was also an addict. *Most addicts tend to avoid being in a relationship with another addict although it does happen and is often referred to as the 13th step.
*based on actual real life experience of this commentator whose former SO called being in a relationship with another addict was akin to emotional suicide. Or, you know, twattery.
I would gladly trade a tighter vadge for a child of my own. Alas, it’s not in the cards for me.
Its a muscle. It stretches for labor and then goes back to normal afterward. I’m around tons of moms and pregnant ladies and while there are indeed instances where things don’t go back perfectly on their own (and you can see a PT for that) I don’t know a single person with a gaping chasm vagina. Seriously, it goes back.
Hey Kelly, if your peach gets huge from having children why don’t you just get a vaginoplasty. You guys get surgery on everything else!
I don’t think Kelly’s comment was that bad. I don’t get why people are so offended by it. So what if she thinks people with kids have loose vaginas? i did have a guy tell me once that he could feel the difference, btw. but who cares? as long as you’re happy with your vagina, that’s what matters.
Well she’s saying it in a national magazine and to a readership who may be silly enough to think she knows what she is talking about so I think it behooves women to post their opposition to her ill informed opinion.
Cosmopolitan is the most stupid, vapid magazine anyway.
A recent article was titled “My Boobs Lost Their Power”. I didn’t want to lose IQ points by reading it.
my boobs lost their power years ago… *sigh*
I think we found the LEAST qualified person on the subect.
That is something a 12 year old would say. We should feel sorry for her.
Well, I’m Brazilian. If a woman who choose to have a C-section is her choice and her choice only. It’s no big deal because it’s simple no deal at all. You simple go to the doctor, he/she gives you the statistics, information and his opinion then it’s basically up to you. There’s none of this idea of “to posh to push”. And it’s almost the same thing in all social classes. That’s why I never really get the indignation this topic seems to bring.
i guess the stupider part is that you’re all actually wasting time commenting on a stupid cosmo article….as if it actually even means anything.
Huh? This website isn’t exactly dedicated to the discussion of particle fission and Solzhenitsyn. I think we can take what Kelly said someone tongue in cheek, but I think most were taken aback by her vanity (which seemed particularly odd coming from a woman who has struggled with weight issues). Women torture themselves over vanity (and always have). From corsets to Spanx, from diets and cleanses that cause malnutrition, to chemicals being smeared and injected onto our bodies and hair, to feet being squeezed into shoes that damage our feet, to boob jobs, nose jobs and chin jobs and cosmetic dental work. Sure, it makes us “feel” better about ourselves because it makes us “feel” more beautiful (i.e. accepted) according to the current beauty standards. But it’s really not good. Not good for our bodies. Not good for our souls. Eventually, it’s all for naught because Mother Nature always wins (no exceptions). And those my age and beyond who continue to fight it with plastic surgery just end up looking desperate, not younger. For me, I think you should rock what ya got. We can’t all look like Gisele or Angelina or whoever our epitome of beauty is. We look like us. Slightly off-kilter, a little lumpy, eventually droopy. We are in “as is” condition – and it’s wonderful. At my age (50), it’s all scratch n’ dent, honey. But it’s all good. There’s the generic sexy that you see on the cover of SI’s Swimsuit issue. Then there’s the sexy that comes with age – the confidence, the intelligence, the sardonic humor, the ability to sip Patron and scotch without your head ever going near the toilet bowl and the “been there, done that” wisdom that comes with age. Oh, and did I mention the fabulous handbags?
I actually cancelled my free subscription to Cosmopolitan I received with airline miles because I realize its all BS. it just encourages young women to have boozy, risky casual sex and recycles the same fashion and make up advice every other issue. I cant believe I loved the magazine in my late teens/college years.
and kelly needs to STFU because she is not relevant or stylish and gaga does not have “control” of twitter trolls any more so than anyone else.
@Lee…well, of course a woman is going to expel fluids when she is bearing down…that only makes sense. That was not the context the comment was used, however.
All the moms in this thread has made me not want to have babies, period. Great big vagina or not. geeze.
I dunno you guys, let me just say that I am child free and I still respect motherhood, childbirth and their sacrifices. I wasn’t offended by her remarks and I think she may be aware that her statement may not be accurate biologically and sounds silly; she’s just talking candidly to Cosmo, not Time or Newsweek. Anyway since I have not given birth, seems like empirically from the above comments, some remain the same, some don’t. And some commentators mentioned the point that she was perpetuating a myth by saying that in a magazine. Fair enough but I think it’s also pretty bad if a Cosmo reader believes everything celebs say without checking with real medical professionals. So yeah, because she is talking to Cosmo and though I get where the other commentators are coming from, I’m not offended. I’m not saying talking to Cosmo can mean you can just say anything offensive or irresponsible, I’m just focusing on those remarks.
I must admit I laughed until I cried! Kelly just sounds like a typical kid! All the people who are so “insulted” are only reinforcing fears like that. If and when she’s truly interested in having children, then children will be her focus. I never worried about stretching because everyone I know who had a baby the “old-fashioned way” also got stitches to repair any damage. I was in labor forever then needed an emergency c-section. If I had it to do over, I’d have just scheduled a c-section since I could have been more rested and avoided the 20+ hours of severe pain, only to have surgery anyway. My parts are the same as before and my c-section scar was completely undetectable after 5 years. I am in my 40s and almost ALL of my friends have had kids. Only 2 complained of damage after natural deliveries, one of whom jokes about it. I heard all the horror stories of pregnancy too and although I had a high risk pregnancy, I never once experienced incontinence that I was told to expect. I think the bad stories, while rare, get all the attention and people assume it is the norm. BTW, those TWO friends I mentioned with the childbirth-damaged vaginas [one of whom jokes she can no longer even wear tampons after 3 natural births]are BOTH extremely hot. They have killer bodies and everyone envies them.
There’s probably no reason to throw my hat into the ring at this point considering this point has been talked to death, but I had a 9 lb baby naturally and I (and my husband) can’t tell much of a difference now. Have no idea what all this down-to-your-knees stuff is about.