Beyonce had a show in Copenhagen last night as part of her Mrs. Carter Tour. She was singing “Irreplaceable” and letting the fans in the front sing along with her, putting her mic down to their level to sing “to the left, to the left”. She was walking away from a fan when he slapped her booty! Which is… gross. On HIS part, not hers. She was just performing and she gets a grope-y ass-slap from some random dude? That’s assault. What I love is that Beyonce didn’t laugh it off. She turned around and looked at him and said, “I will have you escorted out right now, alright?” Here’s the video of the exchange:
Gross. Again, on HIS part, not hers. Gawker says the dude was allowed to stay, but I kind of wish Beyonce would have made a bigger deal about it.
Meanwhile, have you heard about Shirley Manson criticizing Beyonce? In an interview back in April, Shirley was discussing Beyonce’s embargo on unflattering Beyonce photos, and Shirley said: “Who knows what her motivations were, but I am somewhat baffled to even begin to understand why this unstoppable force, this incredible performer, this fully empowered business woman and successful star has allowed herself to be flapped by what the media has deemed ‘unflattering’ images.” Subtle shade, and completely appropriate. Then Shirley said recently, “A lot of celebrities just want money, fame, power, fancy cars, houses all over the world and have people bow down to them. To me, that’s frightful behavior.” Bow down you say? Huh. Well, apparently Rihanna “liked” it too. For what it’s worth.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I dont have to say it…… because everyone else will…….
She loved it!!!
No… lol I was thinking much worse: “he slapped her vagina” ala Bynes… :/ I feel so bad now lol
she was yearning for it
If she insists on thrusting her pelvis/pus at people there’s gonna be some consequences. How many pictures do we have to see of her thrusting vag?
Are you serious????? I’m also sick of her so-called dancing, but it does not give permission for people to touch her against her consent. Geez, do you think rape is a consequence “scantily-clad” women should expect?
Sure, “asking for it” makes assault ok, I’ll remember that next time I’m wearing a short skirt in the street.
That’s the argument defense lawyers use when their clients are charged with rape.
Yes, it is totally gross and infuriating. I don’t care what she wears or how she performs. The entitlement that people hold towards black women’s bodies enrages me.
Any woman.
Yeah, thanks Teehee. This has nothing to do with race and everything with sexism.
I second that emotion…i’m like “what?” Renee’s reasoning is that Beyonce is being “intersectionalized” or “fetishized” due to her race, but this is pretty much an equal opportunity offense, any kind of woman can be subjected to this kind of bad behavior, even a white blonde cracker like myself, an anglosaxon living amongst the hot latins here in the south of france…viva la différence…some men just need to treat women like the dolls they watched their sisters playing with growing up, and that can happen anywhere, anyhow.
If a man grabs my arse, i don’t blame it on my genes, i blame it on my JEANS. But in the end, it’s not about my ass, it’s that HE’S AN ASS.
Anyway, this subject’s tired, let’s move on down to Shirley Town!
Honey I don’t think it’s a race thing, come on.
V4Real this comment is not meant to be directed only towards you but I am not sure of how to reply to multiple responders on the thread.
While it is true that sexual assault is something that that affects all women there are specific ways in which women of color are targeted that are contingent on their race. There are ways that Black women are fetishized, that East and South Asian women are, that Latina women are, that Native American women are, that Middle Eastern women are…it’s called intersectionality, y’all should look it up. There is also quite a bit of scholarship on this as well that you could research because clearly I have no idea about what I am talking about. #sarcasm.
Condescending tone aside, I would bet that a lot of the commenters here have heard of the term “intersectionality”.
I would argue that the incident described here is not really a good example of intersectionality. Beyonce is hardly oppressed or disenfranchised (quite the opposite-she is an empowered, upperclass woman) and to use this particular situation as an example of intersectionality undermines the terminology and minimizes the plight of those women (WOC, women who suffer from disabilities etc) who have been left behind in the feminist movement.
@V4Real – It may not be a race thing but have a little understanding that for a lot of black women race is always a factor.
Renee— you don’t think blondes aren’t fetishized? Sure, every type can have its angle, but honestly, without getting into this guy’s head, we don’t know if he would have done the same thing to Taylor Swift too, or if he would have withheld. I think he saw an opportunity and made an ass out of himself, but we can’t make any firm conclusions he did it because he fetishizes black women specifically.
@babythestars & Renee.
Original Kitten said it perfectly but I do want to add something. Of course we know about intersectionality; we don’t live under a rock. But this incident involving Beyonce had nothing to do with this. Bey wasn’t smacked on her ass because she’s an oppressed, sexualized, disenfranchised Black woman. She was smacked on her ass because she was an entertainer on stage performing, who dared to get to close to the edge of the stage in arms reach of a fan. That man got caught up in the moment; he saw his opportunity and went for it. The same probably would have happened if it was Britney Spears or like someone said, Swifty.
What about the Black Woman who ran on stage and started to perform oral sex on that rapper?
Race played no part in this; stop trying to turn this into something it is not. You guys are so out of pocket with this.
One last thing I think I must have sexualized, fetishized and oppressed the hell out of Dwayne Johnson because years ago almost everytime he would pass by me in the hallway I would smack that ass. He didn’t seem to mind. 🙂
@V4.. ha, I kinda love that you shared that, I’m also extremely jealous that you got close enough.
Respectfully, I don’t think this issue is relegated to a specific race.
As a white chick, I have had my ass (and other body parts) grabbed by strangers countless times while riding a crowded train. Not to mention all the times that guys have grabbed me or touched me without my permission in a club or at a bar. I’m pretty sure most females have experienced this at some point in time.
I agree– this is something that is not a racial thing, but a gender thing. I am black and definitely get my share of demoralizing treatment from the street. When I walk about the city with my friend who is a blonde – how men react to her is yet another level of horrible. Sexualization happens to ALL women.
I also want to add that I am sick of Beyoncé and would rather read a story on Shirley Manson.
Yes exactly. I’ve experienced it as well and I’m a white woman. A slap on the ass has nothing to do with race. Give me a damn break. Anyone who says it does is moronic.
completely agree, and I also agree with your ‘Shirley Manson is awesome’ comment, because she is and I was listening to Garbage last night while I switched out my winter clothes.
+1
It’s not a race issue. It’s a female issue.
I think it happens to women most frequently, but it happens to men as well…especially famous men.
I was at a concert back stage one time, and I saw a 12 year old girl by the entrance to the backstage tell her mom that if she saw the hot male singer, she was just going to grab his butt. She didn’t care, she was just going to grab his butt.
Society tends to think that because they buy a ticket, or a cd, or go to a movie that they own a piece of that performer. I find it gross.
My lovely Kit!! I have a tattoo that says “bona fiscalia,” which means “public property” for this exact reason. Women’s bodies are largely treated as open to public touching and/or comment.
me as well on the groping & arse slapping, and am a super fair skinned red head here. It is infuriating, I agree.
😒 @Renee. My eyes are hurting from giving so many side eyes today.
Why did you bring race into it? That woman is almost as white as a sheet.
Do you really not understand what Renee is saying? Black women’s bodies are still policed and still people feel entitled to black womens’ bodies. There is no privilege there.
Take the “black women’s wombs are the most dangerous place for a baby to be” anti abortion campaign, that would never have happened to a white woman or her womb. This is just one example.
+1. While all women’s bodies are treated as public property, the relationship to black women’s bodies and ownership does have a far more insidious history.
@L we understand what Renee is saying but what happened to Beyonce had nothing to do with her being Black. If it had happened to Lady Gaga what would Renee have said then.
I’m aware that years ago men felt that they were entitled to Black women bodies. Anglo-Saxon women were treated differently and with much more respect during those times. Today things are different and no woman is exempt, regardless of race. We have all become a target for men licentious ways.
I’m hoping to not add fuel to the fire but I’m just going to come right out and say it. I’m assuming what Renee meant is that White Men must somehow feel that they have entitlement to Black women bodies. (the word entitlement steming from the days of slavery). I’m under the impression she only stated this because the man who touched Bey was Caucasian. Therefore if this man had been Black would she have said something completely different or would she have said anything at all.
I’m not saying that all women aren’t objectified, but there is a specific way in which black women’s bodies are objectified. For example, all kinds of people have felt empowered to touch my natural hair because it is so “beautifully curly.” At no time have I ever touched someone’s hair without permission, but just because my hair is “different”, some people think it’s okay to do. Race is very complicated and loaded, and i find it disturbing the number of people discounting its role in this situation who have not experienced sexism mixed with racism.
i find it interesting that there are several people concerned about sexualization of black women and none of those women are named beyonce, who happily objectifies herself. (as do plenty of white women, no that doesn’t excuse touching her, etc, etc, etc, just if you’re concerned with the issue, i doubt beyonce is your fave)
Maigirl, you said it perfectly well, but some people just don’t want to know how sexism and racism affect black women and girls. And I really don’t understand how some people can say “Oh it’s just sexism, this has nothing to do with race!”.
How do you know? Is what I want to ask them.
I’m also not comfortable with people commenting here who feel the right to talk *for* black women or *to* black women about what is intersactionality or not.
V4Real, I cannot speak for Renee, but for me it doesn’t matter if the man had been black, yellow, red, purple or green. His skin color or “race” doesn’t matter.
As far as I know most black women experience abuse from black males. That’s from reading http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com
You guys are still missing the point of what you are talking about has nothing to do with what this guy did to Beyonce. That was just an overzealous fan who got caught up in the moment and slapped her ass. If it had been Swift, the same thing might have happened if given the chance.
@L you are saying that how do we know it has nothing to do with race; so then tell me how do you know that it does? What you guys are saying is that this man said let me slap Bey’s ass because she is Black and I am entitled to do so.
@L…I don’t understand what people aren’t getting about it. There really is no separation of the two. When the Feminist movement came to head, Black Women, Latino Women, Hispanic Women, Asian Women, etc..were not included or even a factor because they were not a part of the middle or upper class…they were too busy trying to be treated as a human beings by their White mistresses. Fast forward several decades later and a Black female entertainer gets the “asked for it”, “planned it”, “look how she dresses” comments BUT when Madonna did it..she was a “pioneer” for women because she “embraced” her sexuality and incorporated it into her shows for the masses. Double standards…
This is ridiculous. I have a bubble butt. I am a white girl and my bum is a definite bubble. I have had my arse grabbed, slapped, pinched and groped more times than I can count. I have actually had bruises on my bum from this before. Whilst issues of intersectionality are very real, to say that this is why this man slapped Beyonce’s bum is ridiculous. You don’t know his motives, and without thoroughly questioning him, you can’t presume them. There COULD be an element of this, but just as easily it might have been a colour-blind man-touching-woman-inappropriately situation. So many singers of every colour have been groped on stage at some point. Not everything is to do with race. In fact, not everything is to with sex either, because a lot of male singers get groped onstage too.
And to the girl saying people touch her hair – my god, when my sister was pregnant, the number of strangers who just came up and touched her was crazy. There are a lot of unwelcome touchers out there!
Thanks for missing the point *Sigh*.
Lena gets it. Thank you.
There is a sense of entitlement that many men feel towards women in general, but there is a specific sense of entitlement when it comes to women who are not white. Some guys even feel non-white women should be grateful for any attention they give them, no matter how harassing.
Going to throw my two cents in here. Growing up as a shy half Mexican fat girl and not part of the cool kids, boys seemed to think that a girl like me would/should be happy for any attention at all. It helped me grow up strong (as any girl who grows up with people putting them in a box) but that shy backward young woman was no different than other girls who are treated with disrespect because we “should enjoy it.” It has all to do with men (or boys) having or thinking they have the power over certain females.
WHITE TEARS EVERYWHERE.
I would like to know why even the suggested application of intersectionality theory is in this instance so offensive to so many. You would think Renee had thrown a party over this man’s actions or suggested that only minority women are the victims of sexual assault and exploitation. She didn’t and this isn’t a competition. There are far more offensive comments down thread justifying the man’s actions or labeling Beyonce’s stage performance as slut behavior, and that is where the pile on party belongs.
If it had been a man of ANY other race his actions would be offensive, but the theory of intersectionality would not apply. There is a possibility that in this case it does and did. There is also the possibility that he was just an ass. I just don’t get the outrage over the unknown. A theory was posed and then somehow it was derailed by “I’m white and I’ve been groped.” What?
Show me the assertion that white women are prancing around without a care over being molested, groped, assaulted, or victimized. You won’t be able to because it didn’t happen and yet, panties still got twisted.
Maybe people have actually convinced themselves that we live in a postracial world and that intersectionality no longer happens; that it is an artifact of history, sadly it isn’t. Sadly, neither is the victimization of ALL women, but we can’t all be included every time.
I would have had his escorted out immediately! To the left to the left you perv!
Also, I agree with Manson’s statements completely.
so you can shake your ass in a booby suit, but then are surprised when someone smacks you on said ass? what the f ever…. I couldn’t care about this or her if I tried.
+1
+2
Hell YES you can!
NOTHING she does on stage (or in life) entitles another person to touch her in a sexual manner without her consent.
If nothing else you have shown why rape culture is a thing.
There is a huge difference between what a person chooses to do or show regarding themselves, and someone else deciding to violate that person. If people don’t get that, then they are the ones who have a problem. It is not okay to touch another person without consent.
I am over Beyonce, but I was never a huge fan to start with, but I don’t agree with the suit thing.
I think she usually dresses very bad,I find her stage-costume pretty trashy, but all the shaking and booby dresses doesn’t allow anyone to smack her ass.
No matter what someone is wearing or how they are behaving, unless they give permission, no one has any right to touch another person’s body. ESPECIALLY in a sexual manner.
I see how ridiculous the notion is and I agree. However, performers make their career out of dancing in front of strangers, but, they surely dont want to be touched by every said stranger. This is similar to the story of that rapper who got ‘favors’ from a woman in teh crowd, right in teh middle of a song. The lines are more blurry because we dont expect any better from a man (I sure wouldnt) but the same thing applies: he is a performer, and whatever type of show it may be, it doesnt mean he/she should be touched. Being a lap dancer is anotehr topic– but I will admit the lines between lap dancing and a concert are increasingly blurred today (to my dismay)
Bottom line is, there was surely no line on that persons ticket which said: ‘Includes the right to touch miss beyonce’
“so you can shake your ass in a booby suit, but then are surprised when someone smacks you on said ass? what the f ever….”
Oh yeah for SURE because she was asking for it, right? Chicks who dress like that don’t get to decide who touches them, amirite? Excuse me while I bash my head against the screen for a few minutes…
Little disappointed that the audience seemed to cheer his actions. Much happier that Beyonce responded so swiftly and firmly and they cheered her louder. Guy needs to learn to keep his hands to himself.
I am sincerely hoping you are not saying it’s ok to touch someone that is performing a lap dance.
Depending on the local laws, touching someone like that without permission is considered assault. Entitled men should keep that in mind while they grab any ass they happen to feel like grabbing.
“so you can shake your ass in a booby suit, but then are surprised when someone smacks you on said ass? ”
to be found in the dictionary after “what rapists say”.
Amen! I so much thought this “she’s asking for it” BS way of thinking was so last century. I’m disappointed to see it is alive and well in America today. Rape culture is alive and well here and it makes me sad….and ANGRY.
I am an extremely conservative dresser and find Beyonce’s performance style and costuming off-putting, but WTF with this comment. She could walk around stark naked and people wouldn’t have the right to touch her. It is harassment to touch people against their will. This is a democracy, and nobody has the right to touch you without your permission. How could one woman say something like this about another woman?
There are neighborhoods even in Europe nowadays where women walking around without burquas are targets for cat-calling, verbal harrassment, and groping — even if those women are dressed in concealing, modest clothes. Is that behavior acceptable because to those men, women with uncovered faces are “flaunting” themselves?
If women are making comments like this, I can only imagine what some men think/say. Good grief.
That is beyond idiotic reasoning and is the type of reasoning that allows for women that get raped to be blamed for their assault.
When they go to trial they are asked by lawyers: what were you wearing, were you dancing in a trashy manner, were you drinking, are you a drunk, have you had an alcoholic beverage ever?
It is such insulting and ridiculous, outdated reasoning. If you are acting like an asshole, do I consequently have the right to shoot you?
Is that you, Jeremy Irons?
UGH
Totally agree. She makes a lot of money out of that ass, by shaking it about and what not. If this happened in a club how much of an issue would it be? It’s only because she’s famous that she’s bothered.
Rihanna would have loved it!
Again, you are totally missing the point. What she does and doesn’t do, how she dresses or doesn’t dress, how provocative she is or isn’t — NONE of that excuses what happened. None of that makes the guy’s behavior okay. I say that as someone who is well established here as being no Beyonce fan, to say the least.
Although I have never and will never frequent clubs such as the ones you mentioned, if the rules are no touching, then yes, it would be equally as bad if someone smacked a woman’s backside there. I agree we wouldn’t be talking about it, but only because the woman wouldn’t be famous and we wouldn’t know about it.
But if we as women encourage this kind of thinking, that this kind of disrespect toward and assault on women is somehow brought on by our dress or behavior –it will continue towards all kinds of women, not just celebrities we dislike. That’s not a victory for anyone.
Finally, Rihanna is someone who continues to pursue a relationship with a man who nearly killed her. Clearly, she has issues with setting boundaries and making decisions about what is good for her. So I don’t see citing her as being any kind of support for your position. She needs help. Beyonce was totally right to go off on that person for touching her.
I don’t think they’re related. Don’t behaviour and expectations change to suit the setting? At a club you’re socializing and giving consent to people you either already know or at least to people to whom you’ve been introduced. This isn’t reciprocity and he doesn’t know her or her personal boundaries which are always going to stay intact whether she’s ‘on’ or in performance, or not. I don’t really care for her but people shouldn’t take grab-ass from strangers.
Rhianna is…
Whatever, it doesn’t matter what speculations we could make about what Rhianna would like because because they’re different people so it’s a moot point. Even if she would like it (a theory not to be tested), what does that have to do with Beyonce?
Wait, I assumed you were talking about a dance club, not the other kind. Conservative-living square that I am, I’ve never been in either, but people seem to get kicked out of the a lot so there must be a code of behaviour established in those places with bouncers to enforce them.
Either way, look with your eyes, not with your hands. I’m not saying that this automatically makes the dude a rapist or anything (but I don’t know him), but in his getting carried away with the fun he was the one of all of those people whose actions were beyond ignorant and presumptuous.
@Jo Mama Besser – Maybe I have the dirty mind because I assumed a “gentleman’s club,” but I, too, have never been in either kind. But I’d assume that in a regular dance club just smacking people’s backsides would be equally unacceptable?! (I hope).
Either way, ITA with everything you said, as always.
THIS is why the slut movement exists.
Seeing a guy flash his expensive watch does not make me chop off his arm and run and away with it.
So over this woman.
+1. The guy shouldn’t have touched her, obviously, but overzealous fans have been jumping onstage and grabbing performers forever – just show the guy the exit and get on with the show. Her people turn EVERY LITTLE THING that happens to this woman into a PR fest – she’s everywhere like a bad rash and there’s no cortisone cream in sight.
@epiphany
I agree with everything you said.
In other news, how awesome is Shirley Manson? The “bow down” business is disgusting.
On behalf of all women I am disgusted by the bum slapper. In other news, I am so sick of Bey. And what is up with her telling B*s to bow down to her, when not so long ago her husband vowed to stop using that word to describe women for the sake of their daughter???
Actually Jay never vowed that. He himself said that was a rumor.
Shirley Manson is awesome.
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I completely agree with Shirley Manson about the pictures issue. I think the issues a lot of people have with Beyonce is the extreme lengths she and her team go through to maintain this “perfect” image.
That guy should have been thrown out. And I think he should have been arrested. This type of behavior is not acceptable. No one should ever touch another person without consent.
I knew someone would find a way to make this her fault. It doesnt matter how much you dislike her or how she dresses/dances on stage, she does NOT deserve to be assaulted. Period.
I agree completely.
I knew someone would find a way to make this her fault. It doesnt matter how much you dislike her or how she dresses and dances on stage, she does NOT deserve to be assaulted. Period.
this reminds me of when Faith Hill went H.A.M. on some thirsty chick that reached up & grabbed on Tim McGraw’s ‘lasso’. that sh*t was not cool.
stupid ass stans need to check themselves seriously & keep their hands off. period. 😡
I was coming here to say the same thing, only now I don’t have to. Lasso, haha. Do not giddy-up!
I couldn’t help but imagine Kramer from Seinfeld saying “giddy-up” xd.
That was gross on the part of the fan.
On another news, Beyonce is also gross always dancing wild in underwear type of clothes.
I don’t care if you want to have skimpy clothes on stage but knowing you will dance wild will result into the picture above with her legs wide open.
Janet Jackson is also a wild dancer and a sexy one at that. Yet she tries to have pants on when she knows she will spread her legs while dancing.
And Beyonce always try to mimick and emulate other stars to the core even in her outfits choices.
These pictures above are this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXtnABtbVSc
And this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoRBFNOgeHw
Too bad she hasn’t the grace of Miss Ross while moving with those sexy outfits. Her movements are raw, sluttish and straight up sexual (like arching her bootey, kneeling) while in Diana Ross case it’s more sensual and graceful.
Again, if she wants to dance wild with legs spreading wide open, she can use the Janet Jackson approach.
I really hate when women spread their legs like that in underwears when they are onstage at that.
The upskirt view from the first row has a pervertish tone. It’s a lack of total respect for your audience.
Um Beyonce will NEVER have skills or be Janet Jackson!! Just saying.
I get what your saying though. Haha
lol.
I hate the word slut. Sorry. I can’t even read your post because of it. Define slut. Slept with too many men? Dances in a way you don’t like? Dresses in a way you don’t like? Gets too much attention?
Eff that noise. Stop policing other women’s sexuality. She never showed her biscuit (public indecency) so leave her alone. I’m no beystan, but this is ridiculous.
I didn’t use slut describing her, i say sluttish in relation to her MOVEMENTS when she dances on stage, posing legs wide open. I use examples of movements that are straight up sexual connotation, like arching her bootey while kneeling.
There is a difference between sensual moves and sexual ones. And when the moves are sexual, you better chose the outfit to downplay it.
That was all the point of comparing her with Diana Ross whose outfits she has emulated are virtually identical, yet one appearing graceful and sensual in her moves, the other one not…Hence she better adopt janet’s approach if she wants to dance wild with legs wide open.
Tone the outfit (like Janet) or tone the dance (like Diana)
I hate that word. I am so touchy to the point where I dont even like one of the golden girls using it on each other…. it is just a bad word coined from a bad mentality against women, so no matter how you use it or define it, it can never be a good thing…
@teehee
It’s ok and your prerogative. I am not American or even an English speaker native, so i don’t feel that bad mentality you are talking about linked to that word.
I however, feel the same hatred and disgust towards this public display of legs spreading in underwear so many women use in the false pretend of being an artist.
I just hate that and hate that many women tolerate that.
I will never forget that foreign artist who did it during her concert and i was in the front row and could see like all the rest around me, that she didn’t even have a panty on and wanted to shock..with all her lips down there spreading for all the audience to see. Those upskirt views are just shamefull.
I just hate those type of stunts when you have that type of clothes on and beyonce with Rihanna have done it over and over again with at time clothing malfunction.
Her being in the front seat for so many years make it worse. She should know better and doesn’t need it if she is so talented.
Can’t tolerate those stunts and can’t tolerate when someone use sisterhood to belitlle or tolerate that.
Nope, still not okay. No matter how you define it, slut, sluttish movements, whatever, it is a word used to police women’s sexuality. It’s still you judging her for something sexual she is doing, which sucks.
Oh,and your user name is spelled wrong, fyi.
I don’t Blame @Hipocricy – if I paid for a ticket to go to a concert I would be offended to see a performers vagina. That is rude and disrespectful of the performer. Now if I went to a strip club then I don’t think I should be offended. That being said I guess I don’t pay much attention to Beyonce because other than that tacky nipple uniform she only has one outfit she wears and that is a one-piece that always has everything covered up so I must not be very conservative because wearing what amounts to a full coverage bathing suit on stage isn’t offensive to me.
Those outfits you say Beyonce is trying to emulate look NOTHING alike. I don’t care what she wears on stage or how she dances, no one should ever put a hand on her.
How do you define what is a sensual versus sexual move. In my part of the world, our traditional dance involves shaking our bums. I guess if you ever saw our dance you would describe it as sexual. By the way I see a lot of west African dance moves in beyonce’s performances.
I really, really wish she would have had him escorted out. That is not acceptable and if it were me I’d a slapped his face THEN had him escorted out.
Mini rant alert: I hate being touched without my permission be it man or woman. This girl I know as a casual acquaintance (we did the same courses at a techvoch) came up to me in a supermarket yesterday while I was standing in line and kissed my cheek. I know she meant it affectionately but I was not cool with that and told her so. I’d much rather she stuck to our usual smiles and hellos. Respect my personal space please!
I think this is a little much. People from different cultures usually kiss on the cheek, I don’t think there is anything “not cool” about it, It’s just their culture. Geesh. I know a few people like that and although I don’t usually do kisses on the cheek with friends, I do with them because I know they mean it in the friendliest way.
It does not matter how they mean it. When you are doing something to the other person’s body that the other person does not want, it is anything but “friendly”.
I think a person’s sense of personal space/boundaries is immune to cultural norms. I know Europeans who don’t like to be touched either. It’s totally subjective and there is no right/wrong IMO.
@TheOriginalKitten: Sure there’s a right and a wrong. The wrong is touching someone who does not want to be touched.
Obviously there are different levels and kinds of it. Someone who hugs you in a friendly way when you haven’t let them know you’d like it is rude, whereas someone who gropes you when you haven’t let them know you’d like it is vile and criminal.
*sigh*
I thought my statement was clear but I guess not. My point was that there is no right or wrong in terms of how one defines their personal boundaries. Meaning, some people might be ok with a kiss on the cheek and others may not-neither is in the wrong for feeling that way.
It goes without saying that touching someone without permission is wrong.
does anyone else notice her new nose job?
I think she did her upper lip too.
i do not like any of it- this woman did not need anything.
Me no likey
I guess I should be offended but I’m not. When you get up close and personal with the fans they may grope you. Not the end of the World
*gasp*!! An unflattering photo, my GOD!! Take it down. lol 😀
Nothing to do with this sexual assault but I remember back in the old days when Beyonce and Destiny’s Child sang a song about ‘Nasty Girls’ being “sleazy, freaky, nasty, put your clothes on, trashy, classless, prideless, no man wants no female that’s been around the block” etc etc etc (look up the lyrics).
For one of these women to then get about dressing the way she does on stage is pretty ridiculous.
Beyonce is all for female empowerment when it’s earning her money and all about shaming females when it earns her money.
WORD UP!!!
You beat me to it.
Whoever runs his blog is reallu obsessed with Beyonce but is confused so they think they hate her. You cover her more than any other blog. I would know cause I love her so I know you will ALWAYS have stories of her. Secondly a woman can walk naked if she wants touching her without permission is criminal !!!!!!!!!!!!! Lastly if you hate Beyonce so much ignore her. I have no idea what people I do not like are up to. Could not be bothered, not in the least. Try it, it is also called maturity.
Actually, it’s also criminal to walk around naked in most places…
It just amazes me about the people who pay to see and hear Beyonce sing those majorette band songs over and over again,she is beautiful no doubt and mixes things up with fabulous costumes and sexuality but her singing style is like stop and go, stop and go because she cannot hold or carry out a long tune. Diana Ross whose singing voice was not very good did the same thing and she became a mega-star. I think people get confused between talent and facial beauty. No envy on Beyonce every generation have their idols.
You are mistaken, Beyonce can sing. Her perfomances of Halo and Dangerously in love prove that. She has more range than most. Watch her on youtube. Please by all means say you do not like her but do not for a second sit comfortably saying she cannot sing when she is the only female out here singing and dancing and giving proper notes at the same time. 17 grammys say she can sing. sorry for you
i would not characterize her costumes as “fabulous.” i think they are kind of lame.
Everyone knows you’re not allowed to touch the strippers.
+10000000000 lol! At least stick a dollar in her drawers for crissake!
LOL.
True dat, though.
I hope her pillow baby is ok!
She’s not pretending to be pregnant right now.
If this guy would assault a superstar on stage like that, how does he treat women in everyday life? Scary.
On another note: Marilyn Manson. Every time I see an interview of him, he seems intelligent, sane, and insightful. Way more than almost any other celebrity. And yet, the way he lives his life seems to be just like any other aging male rock star who keeps going after young women.
Shirley Manson =/= Marilyn Manson..
Emily, you got it wrong: same last name but different artist (and gender) LOL
*facepalm* Well, that was stupid of me. I really need to stop posting anything before my pain meds kick in. Argh.
LOL. Thanks for the laugh Emily.
Hhaha and you’re posting under the same name as me so now it looks like it was me… I posted the comment up there a bit ^^ about Beyonce being a hypocrite via her song Nasty Girls and the way she dresses on stage!
Ruh-Roh. War of the Emilys.
Someone started posting under my old name, too. It was frustrating because it was a pretty unique name (Sweet Dee) and she had some stupid sh!t to say.
No one has the right to touch another person’s body without their permission. It’s revolting.
A slap on the ass does not a “grope-y” make. Wrong? Perhaps. Groping? Definitely not.
Totally Gross and Disgusting!!! Security should have ousted him!
Maybe he wanted to see if it was a pillow.
Long time lurker saying hello from Copenhagen. The news here report that the guy was escorted out of the venue. And I agree that it is completely unacceptable, no matter how she dresses
Fake, staged…part of the show. Don’t believe anything this narcissist says or does, every second of it is well-planned and rehearsed.
Geez…
No, not “geez”…”fake”. The guy wasn’t tossed out by security which means one thing: he was a plant, paid to be there. “OMG men cannot resist my delicious booty!”. Like her entire career and everything about her…fake.
Folk singers from the 60’s who dressed and acted like ladies never got their as ses swatted.
BTW, get well, Judith Durham.
So what you’re saying is, she asked for it?
So it is the woman’s fault? Men cannot help themselves when they see a juicy behind?
Yeah…and Women were never sexually assaulted when they wore several POUNDS of clothing back in the day as well…Just stop already
Actually, you’re wrong.
Women have always been assaulted, no matter what they wear. Even women in burqas get assaulted.
People should stop telling women what to wear and start telling men not to rape.
And the feminists will say *Crickets*.
So far the double standard has been very obvious.
Black women using their sexuality to sell records = Bad.
White women doing the same = Empowerment!!
Right.
God I hope your comment doesn’t get piled on by people who want to pretend racism doesn’t exist anymore, because this is actually a huge topic right now in feminism since Bey’s been on the cover of Ms.I could write a damn dissertation here on empowered sexuality vs performative sexuality and how that impacts different women for different reasons (obvi I’m into the intersectional feminism). I mean, how many times do people need to say “The Hottentot Venus” before people are able to wrap their minds around the relationship of racism to misogyny?
Feminism has always been a double standard when it comes to Women of non white ethnic groups. I’ve said it time and time again…when White feminism sprang up like a force in the American social structure, Black women and other women of color were still cleaning their houses and take care of their children…
Damn is there truth to this comment. This is why I’m not such a huge fan of Internet feminism. It’s predominantly told and spoken by in popular circles by white women. And on top of that I feel like if you don’t act white or aren’t whitewashed, then you’re unacceptable and oppressed by your culture. I mean there’s a lot more to it than just that, but the ignorance and the subtle racism of quite a lot of white feminists I see on the Internet is infuriating. And it makes me mad because it’s just imperialism all over again. White man come to civilize the barbarians. It really really bothers me.
sex is all anyone wants to talk about anyways. Can we talk about something new. I’m a little tired of learning how empowering your last orgasm was and you had NSA sex and filmed yourself having sex and beyonces empowering because she owns her sexuality but she’s objectified, photoshop sucks but playboy rocks, get naked to get in touch with your body, strip, do porn, erotic photography can be empowering (…ugh yeah for those of you that have the ABILITY to make that choice sure), the puritans ruined us, and whack off all the time.. Ahhhhhhhhh!!! Do we need entire articles for this every week?
I don’t know. I think I’m just tired of the Internet and need to unplug myself from all these networks for a while. As an immigrant, a woman of color, a stem major, a below the poverty line background from a single mother family, and someone from a different culture of which I am proud of and enjoy flaws aside, I do feel a huge disconnect with the mainstream feminist movement and don’t feel as part of it as I would like. It’s why I’m so hesitant to call myself feminist, but begrudgingly do so because i feel I should otherwise im betraying a sisterhood i dont even feel a part of, nor at times do I want to. Then I get pissed because I feel like I have no choice in not calling myself a feminist despite the fact that I feel like I keep myself well informed on the movement and what it is and what is was and what it means both politically and academically. Then I pig out on junk food and just stop thinking about it.
End massively long rant that probably doesn’t have anything to do with what were talking about anymore.
@ Bijlee…I 100% understand what you saying.
I understand completely. I also understand the comments talking about the notion of women of colour needing to feel grateful for attention from white men–especially if they’re black. It is beyond unsettling and it’s not going away anytime soon.
Big deal!
The fact that he wasn’t immediately ejected makes me think the whole thing was orchestrated by Queen Bey herself for some much needed positive PR. Everyone is getting tired of Mrs. Carter.
He was escorted out afterwards
Totally fake.
If that guy didn’t have problems before, I bet he 99 now.
……and a b*tch most certainly IS one
She is a mother and a wife, no random guy should be spanking her or slapping her ass, disrespectful
Alot of stupid men feel entitled to slap a women’s butt and they need to learn how to keep their hands to themselves! Race has nothing to do with it!
Well check this out. This article (Gawker referred to it) claims Beyonce actually JOKED with the guy afterwards. Gross. And he was not asked to leave.
http://www.nme.com/news/beyonce/70542
I believe it. If queen bey was upset, that guy would be history.
Hmmm. While I do believe that black women, more than any other race of women are stereotyped as being uber-sexual (look to the Jezebel Stereotype that began during slavery), I don’t think this “fan” was thinking about that. He’s just a dumb guy who did a dumb and inappropriate thing.
Its hilarious!!!!
Its sad that some dnt possess the tinniest bit of respect for women…. This is a woman who’s job is 2 entertain thousands of fans and one just comes off at her? She shud have insisted on taking the man ASS out.
IN DENMARK WE SPANK BEYONCE