Chris Brown covers the new issue of Jet, and OMG, his interview is… delusional. I guess that’s the right word. At this point in his life, Chris sees himself as one of the biggest victims in the world. The world – “White America” in particular – is racist and out to make him fit into some kind of violent, thuggish box. Nevermind that not a year goes by without Chris doing violent, thuggish things like almost killing his girlfriend and leaving her for dead, or throwing violent temper tantrums in news studios, or lying about his community service. In Chris’s mind, he’s like Jesus Christ and Trayvon all mixed together, only no one can see his martyrdom because everyone is always conspiring against him and trying to “enslave” him, trying to make him suicidal. You think I’m being hyperbolic? I’m not. This interview is insane:
Chris Brown knows he’s done some terrible things in his past. What he doesn’t know is why the public can’t forgive him for those things — especially when they’ve been so willing to overlook other people’s mistakes. Speaking about his bad reputation in the Oct. 14 issue of Jet magazine, the 24-year-old singer singles out hip hop mogul Jay Z as an example of someone who, in his opinion, has gotten off scot-free.
“This is something I’ve been dealing with for the past maybe five years,” he told Jet, per CNN. “Anybody with a voice – Tupac, Michael Jackson, the Notorious B.I.G. – gets formatted … except maybe for Jay Z, who is accepted by White America because he shakes hands and kisses babies. No disrespect, because I’m a fan, but nobody brings up the fact that he stabbed somebody and sold drugs. He gets a pass.”
In 2001, Jay Z pleaded guilty to stabbing record producer Lance “Un” Rivera at a 1999 listening party in Manhattan. Brown believes the “Magna Carta” rapper got off easy for this, but he himself still can’t move past the 2009 Rihanna assault.
“You have to go through the struggle before you can get to the good part. I don’t try to lash out at people, or be as mad or impulsive as I used to be. I got to the point where it’s only so much you can take from the master, you feel me?” he told Jet. “I’ve taken my fair share of lashings. I’ve dealt with the media. Instead of being an artist, I’ve been called a woman beater; I’ve been insulted in public and judged. And being able to not want to kill yourself at the end of the day is what made me say, ‘F**k it.'”
The Virginia native even went so far as to compare himself to Trayvon Martin.
“I identify with Trayvon 100 percent as far as living in 2013 and still dealing with blatant racism,” he told the magazine. “This generation is so used to racism that it’s normal; we don’t care. We aren’t on drugs or catching AIDS, but they still look at us as ni**as.”
Let’s just go through some points. First, the Jay-Z thing. No question, Jay-Z has a shady past. But it also helps that Jay spent a significant amount of time legitimizing his business ventures and working on his self-control. Jay-Z doesn’t throw chairs. He’s not constantly whipping it out and trying to make everyone kiss his ring. Jay has matured significantly. And he’s done it all without resorting to this kind of intensive, self-pitying wallow. It’s not that Jay-Z gets a “pass” – it’s that he owned his mistakes, he learned from them and he grew and changed and became a better person.
“I don’t try to lash out at people, or be as mad or impulsive as I used to be.” Slow-clap for Sucky Baby. He’s TRYING not to be as violent and tempermental as he used to be, doesn’t he get credit for that?! Y’all are slave-masters.
“Instead of being an artist, I’ve been called a woman beater” – it’s like he doesn’t even realize that he was called a woman-beater BECAUSE HE BEAT A WOMAN. He accepted a plea deal because he beat a woman. We can call him a woman-beater because HE IS.
As for the Trayvon stuff… ugh, Sucky Baby exhausts me. I can’t anymore.
Photos courtesy of Jet, WENN.
Because you are a woman beater!
When I first saw him I thought what a cute guy… but I thought he has angry and mean eyes. They say the eyes are the window to the soul … well Chris?
Right?!? Once he starts making actual ART, I might see him as an artist AND a woman beater. For now, he is just a woman beater.
@Gabriella – Maybe he’s just mad we didn’t see his ‘monster graffiti’ (outside his house/garage, which neighbors complained about & made him take down) as ‘Art‘ & decided to bitch about it.
@Hakura
Hahahah!! If those boogers with teeth and eyes are ‘art’, then my 3 year-old nephew is effing Picasso.
Exactly. The truth hurts.
Yep you sure are a woman beater. Anything you can do once you can do again.
This is a whole new level of delusional, is this really how his mind works?
Everyone is carrying some heavy cross. LOL. Is he attending to Kanye West’s school of delusion? I see his graduation is soon, soon.
Kanye ain’t beating up women. He may have ego, but don’t insult him by limping him in with Chris Brown.
Don’t lump kanye in with this jerk.
Actually they both have a lot in common. Both megalomaniacs who think they can do whatever they want and nobody has right to judge them beacause they are so special and so above everyone and everything. They really need some reality check.
I think this analogy makes perfect sense. Like Chris, Kanye constantly enjoys pulling out the race card. Both of them need to put it back into the deck.
Besides the Bush comment- which was TRUE- exactly when has Kanye pulled the race card? Corporate rants does not equal pulling a race card.
Wow he just doesn’t get it? Of course it’s everyone else it couldn’t be him!So far he hasn’t gone through a year not in a brawl or up before a judge maybe if he stays out of trouble for a few years and makes some actual good music and grows up a lot people will start calling him an artist. It took Jay Z years not to get viewed as a thug and he works on it and he of course has Beyonce.
Exactly. Jay Z worked hard at overcoming his past. He has spoken openly about how angry he used to be, how some of that had to do with the daddy abandonement issues which he had to confront and just bad choices. He stopped the posturing crap. Resolved his beef with other artists. And he appears very happily married to a popular clean cut popstar. That took a decade to do, it wasnt over night.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s a duck….
@Jane – “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s a duck…”
…Or Courtney Stodden pursing her lips, waddling in 3ft high stripper shoes, & ‘quacking’ at her unfortunate escort as he drags her drunk-ass home. (‘Home’ being her favorite, ‘reedy’ pond).
What part of you beat a woman & haven’t shown one ounce or remorse don’t you get? You are an arrogant, self important jerk! I’m not sure what planet he’s on? Grow up & act like a man!
He’s still right here on planet Earth, he probably just has his head shoved in the ground in California… If he does as much weed as Rihanna. (God knows, I’m sure they both do much worse, the pot is just the thing they’ve so carelessly advertised on a regular basis…)
What does marijuana have anything to do with this? Are you really trying to say they do terrible things by smoking marijuana? Cause uh, false.
I hate Chris Brown as much as the next person, but marijuana has nothing to do with the way he acts. The only thing he’s attacking due to weed is junk food.
I’ve known a lot of people who smoke pot, and none of them have been violent.
@Taleese: Thank you! I’m so beyond tired of the stigma marijuana has to people that are going on what the government has said about it. If anything they are on other things such as cocaine or pills that causes the ludicrous actions that Brown, Miley, and Bieber have all been apart of.
If anything you just wanna play bongo drums in the nude hahahaha
Oh for God’s sake, you two. I didn’t mean that at all. I’m not an idiot.
What I was implying was a joke, & only meant that maybe he’s ‘too out of it’ to realize what a moron he sounds like in these interviews & everywhere else. The many times Rihanna has shown footage or post something while high, she’s come across totally stupid, then realizes it later & tries to take everything she did & said down.
My comment in NO way said anything about pot causing his (or anyone else’s) violent behavior or temper problems. If anything, it causes the opposite reaction. I’ve had several friends who smoked weed, & sometimes can’t even remember half of what they said or did.
I meant, in a joking way because of knowing how much he does it, that maybe *that’s* why he always sounds like such an incomprehensible idiot.
Ohhh okay, gotcha 🙂
There have been several, several posters in the past that would say crazy things about weed that made no sense or that they were misinformed!
Though that’s odd they didn’t remember what they did o_O
@Dommy Dearest – Admittedly, most of said friends had to ‘hit the bong’ pretty hard to completely forget everything, but there were a few that didn’t have to smoke but a little before they would start forgetting things they said or did.
But a little weed now & then was the only thing they ever did (thankfully nothing stronger), & usually the only problem when they came down from being high was realizing they’d cleaned out their kitchen cupboards of any & all sustenance. ^^
I can’t believe I forgot to include this!
This is the reason for my mentioning Chris Brown & Weed in my previous post.
It was something he put up on his Instagram account while in Amsterdam (where I think it’s legal). Underneath it, he said “Don’t worry! It’s medicinal lol“
It’s his own fault that he’s been labeled as a beater because that is what he is. He was also guilty of the crime he was accused of (Trayvon was a whole different story). Him trying to drag Trayvon into his own shi* storm of a life and make comparisons is almost as pathetic as he is.
@Chalkdustgirl – I agree, it was really awful of him to try to drag Trayvon into this. They have absolutely nothing in common in regards to situation… Chris earned people’s disgust w/his actions.
I truly believe the public would be able to forgive him and move on if he expressed sincere remorse. He was young and did horrible things but he could have sincerely sought and earned redemption. He didn’t. Instead, he continued to lash out in very violent ways ways. He comes off as a narcissistic soiciopath. Me! Me! Me!
I know several have said this before me but he reminds me of Ike Turner. They just don’t or can’t see that they are the ones completely in the wrong.
+1000
He could have turned his story around by now with most of the public. Show remorse, humility and work on being a better person gets America to see you in a more positive light. America is all about redemption.
Thats the thing though. He WAS forgiven by the bulk of his fans. His post-Rihanna albums went platinum. His concerts sold out. His music was awarded very prestigous industry awards. He was forgiven!
The problem is that he doesnt recognise his own comeback as evidence that he largely ‘got away with it’. The idiot just cant quit googling himself. Ofcourse he cant win over everyone, duh!
What he did was the worst. Truly! But does he honestly think he was universally loved before the beating??? Theres no entertainer without a band of ‘haters’. You just learn to avoid the ‘hate’ and ignore that which you must encounter.
Again, i am not saying he doesnt deserve the ‘hate’ just that a less egotistical person would learn to side step it and enjoy the resurgence that they are clearly having.
I agree completely , and would add that his inability to take responsibility for his actions or to see himself as anything but a victim is classic abuser mentality. He hasn’t learned a thing or changed one bit.
He and Nigella’s husband are cut from the same cloth and singing the same song, except Nigella’s husband can’t claim he’s a victim of racism. I’m sure he’s jealous.
@GoodNames, you make a great point about the abuser’s “victim” mentality.
Exactly the point I was going to make. Well done.
@GoodNamesAllTaken – I agree, too. Something else that was probably widely well known, that I personally didn’t know until today… Is that sadly, he also came up w/life experiences that almost ensured he would have some sort of issues –
“His parents had divorced, and his mother’s boyfriend terrified him by subjecting her to domestic violence.” – Wikipedia
I have a feeling his mother wasn’t the only one subjected to ‘domestic violence’. But at least all his anger makes sense. (But I’m absolutely *not* making excuses, there’s never an excuse, this just makes it easier to understand.)
For someone I’ve never met before, this guy legitimately pisses me off. What I don’t understand is the fact that he continues to have a career post-beating. There are people who are still trying to work with him because it’s such a pervasive part of the “thug life.”
+1 Yep, and it’s enraging. Stop hiring and encouraging this POS, FFS!
I wonder if people who are going to buy this are people who weren’t that horrified by the besting in the first place. It’s an interesting strategy, I’ll give him that…
Chris Brown and his fans keep saying it’s because he’s Black that people keep bringing up his past.They bring Charlie Sheen,Mel Gibson,etc. By bringing up Jay Z he just proved it isn’t about race. It’s about him as a person and nothing else. Bringing Trayvon Martin into this is just disgusting. I get the racial profiling angle and being a young Black man in America,but this is a new low even for him. I read the article and in Chris’ defence the question was leading.
Mel Gibson’s career has died anyway, so I don’t know why people use that to illustrate the racial bias. No one has a kind word to say about him except hm Jodie Foster. Charlie Sheen is fucked up and everyone agrees he is a disgusting pig though and Anger Management is not doing so hot and his career has also died. Rihanna is also a mega star and so her beating was so high profile. Had he beaten Karrueche Tran and not Rihanna there would have been less interest probably. And of course the lack of repentance when he is interviewed.
Look I believe racism is well and truly alive but in this case I think the criticism is like 90% not race related.
Yep, Apoph, racism colors our lives everyday, but Chris Brown has deservedly earned the public’s loathing, which has nothing to do with him being black. Although, I can see where the woman beater tells himself it’s a racial thing because he’s also frequently attacked with bigoted slurs from certain quarters.
That all sounds right to me. Whenever I catch my niece trying to blame someone for her own misdeeds, get ‘imaginative’ about the truth or trying to slander someone’s past actions when the focus is on hers, I give her a scolding. She just turned six. My nephew is turning eight next month and he has pretty much outgrown these behaviours.
Don’t dare to drag a attacked kid into that morass of ironic delusion.
It’s not really about him as a person and nothing else. This is what makes me so angry about his self-righteous, self-pitying, self-absorbed whining. Because the truth is, he’s a young black man in America: of course he’s faced racism. OF COURSE he has. But his refusal to take any responsibility for his own actions and his subsequent behavior makes it really easy for white people to ignore that fact. Like Kaiser said, Jay-Z is forgiven because he’s acted like a man in the aftermath. He grew the fuck up. Charlie Sheen is forgiven because a) people love braggadocio and hate self-pity and b) the woman he shot and beat up wasn’t also famous, and c) there wasn’t a photograph of a woman’s bloody, tear-streaked face to circulate as proof. ‘Chris Brown’ the young black man has absolutely battled racism every day of his life, but ‘Chris Brown’ the pop star is a whiny little bitch who wants pity and respect despite never learning from his mistakes.
By the by, racism is also what’s allowing him to have the success he’s been able to regain in the aftermath of his beating the shit out of Rihanna – if he beat the shit out of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, he’d have been run out of town on a rail. But Rihanna is black and aggressively sexual, so it’s not as big a deal to a lot of people.
Chris Brown is a spoiled,horrible fvcked up person who happens to be Black. He is using racism as an excuse. As I said by using Jay Z as an example he’s hurt his own argument. It’s not about race,but about him. Snoop, 50 cent,Don King,Mike Tyson and Dr.Dre are all Black men who been accused and/or convicted of crimes all took personal responsible,which Chris is not doing. I don’t doubt that CB has experienced racism,but that has nothing to do with people not welcoming you with open arms after beating up your girlfriend.
actually Charlie also abused Kelly Preston, too. She just called it an accident so it got swept under the rug. What kills me is that no one ever talks about how Sean Penn tortured Madonna for hours and nearly killed her. Eff that guy.
That was some last paragraph and I agree with it. By acting out the worst of the stereotypes, both of them doled out some major confirmation bias and part of the reason he got to keep the huge career that has he had (and you still have the career, dick-nuts) is because there are some people don’t (and don’t know that they don’t) expect more ‘civilized’ behaviour from people in his position.
The guy is making good on being bad and just doesn’t see it. Trayvon Martin was effectively murdered for wearing the same clothes that Chris Brown is wearing in the wide release film in which he currently appears, so I’d say there are levels of suffering and injustice in this world. There is a remarkably straight forward way to change the direction of his narrative. Not an easy way forward, but a clearly marked way forward.
Don’t give this society that hinges on overt and unacknowledged racism grist for the mill.
… if he beat the shit out of Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, he’d have been run out of town on a rail. But Rihanna is black and aggressively sexual, so it’s not as big a deal to a lot of people.
I’ve wondered about this myself seeing some of the names Rihanna gets called. There’s so much truth in your statement and it makes me both angry and sad.
I dont think anyone can deny that race has played a role here with a straight face. You only need to look at unmoderated websites and see how racist the comments are. On websites that are moderated, you can see people couching their language even though their sub-text is clear.
Having said that, Chris Brown is a total douche. He deserves to suffer. I take his point about racism but I cant be bothered to fight for him too hard.
He’s so delusional he doesn’t even realize how much of a “pass” he himself gets everyday. Over and over again.
He is still at the top of the charts, has millions of fans (ugh) and has tons of money in the bank.
26 ways to delay death . . .
Maybe avoiding your cover ‘star’ is a good place to start, Jet.
“except maybe for Jay Z, who is accepted by White America because he shakes hands and kisses babies.”
LMAO. This guy is hilarious. Jay Z is no angel but he stood up to Chris for ALMOST MURDERING RIHANNA so now he’s the enemy. Anyone that asks him to be accountable for his actions is the enemy. He swears all of Black America loves him. Like his victims aren’t Black. Delusional mofo.
This f&cking piece of sh$t….YOU ARE A WOMAN BEATER.
Fecking jerk
Why can’t he just shut up and go away?! He could also accept some responsibility for his actions when he’s at it! Man up and stop whining….
I hate that we’re still talking about him like this. I’m not a fan of his but I can definitely see where he’s coming from. He’s in a shady industry and the people around him have done worse and yet the public loves them. Is it too much to ask for him to straighten up? No, but he’s young and stupid just like the rest of them. Give it time, he’ll grow. I can definitely see where his anger comes from and I’d throw just as many chairs as him if I was reminded to my mistakes everyday. He needs to get out of the spotlight for a while and get clean. Does anyone know if he was on drugs when he beat Rihanna? Did we ever find out what they were fighting about that night?
I’ve read that she saw a text message from another woman or she went through his phone.
Don’t make excuses. No one, black or white or red or purple, deserves to be beaten the way Rihanna was beaten – which by the way was because he caught her looking at his phone. And it doesn’t matter what she was doing, because NO ONE earns being beaten by their loved one, NO ONE ‘asks for it’. He slammed her head into the car door repeatedly, and choked her until she passed out, only stopping because he heard another car (or police, I can’t remember on that one). He is not particularly young anymore, and his choice to DEMAND forgiveness, to try to fudge his punishment, to use every opportunity to express remorse to instead whine about how hard it is to have the public hate you because you almost killed your girlfriend and don’t even seem to be sorry about it – THAT is why he can’t move past. It is his own actions and choices, plain and simple.
Forgiveness is earned, not demanded.
This.
Also, this was four and half years ago, plenty of time to grow up. Which he hasn’t done, or appeared to make any attempt to do so.
Are you kidding me? So, he was young and it was probably her fault anyway? She probably provoked him?
You are the reason abusive men get away with it. He didn’t mean it, he was young, he’s under a lot of pressure, why are people still angry about it even though he’s never taken responsibility for it? There is no excuse for what he did. None. But he’ll always have people like you buying into his self pity and making excuses for him. Meanwhile, domestic violence is the leading cause of injury among women. A woman is beaten every 15 seconds in our country. But all those men have excuses, too, don’t worry.
Unfortunately, abusers don’t ‘grow out of it’ unless they admit they have a problem and get some serious counseling. They just become old skeezy abusers (see Charles Saatchi).
wow…making excuses for a women beater. The problem with this guy is that he doesn’t see what he did wrong or does he regret it. Why would he? The all industry did nothing but condoning his actions. He wants to be called an artist? Well, he’s not one. He doesn’t want to be called a women beater? He could start by feeling really really really sorry for what he did…we can call him the king of the world, but he will still be a unregretful women beater at the end of the day. Good that the general public doesn’t close their eyes at this.
He is where he is because he is an angry man, and that has not changed. He shows us this with his actions. And until the public sees that he is no longer angry, and no longer a threat, he will be held in contempt, both literally and figuratively.
Whatever douchnozzle.
Why do we not talk about Emma Roberts and her man this way?
Good point, Anna. We don’t talk about Emma Roberts this way ( and the media barely paid any attention to her abusing her boyfriend). Does Chris Brown need to mature and work on his attitude/ anger management issues? Yes. But he is not entirely wrong about why the public and media likes to make him out to be a monster.
I think that was disgusting as well. Especially since I absolutely love Evan Peters. Not only is there a double standard when it comes to domestic violence but Rihanna’s stardom comes into play. Also there were the photos of her face that really struck home for a lot of people.
But I’m with you.. Domestic violence does not fly with me no matter who the partner is. It sickens me that she did it.
It’s because Evan Peters is a physically larger and stronger man who is perfectly capable of walking away from an abusive Emma Roberts. Unless Emma had a weapon or had attacked Evan in his sleep, she could not beat him to within an inch of his life the way Chris beat Rhianna.
This is borderline victimblaming and exactly what bothers me about female-male domestic violence. Well, besides the beating of course.
What? Because he is bigger than her she couldn’t have beaten him badly or within an inch of his life? That kind of reads like he was beaten because he let it happen. I think Emma is supposed to be in this season of American Horror Story too. I’m interested to see if the press brings her abusing him up again when the season starts.
@Nan, exactly. It also doesn’t take into account the shame and public perception many still have towards male victims, and how society doesn’t really see female-male violence as a real thing, and how he probably wouldn’t want to fight back because of the fear that he’d be seen as an abuser.
After reading your remarks Side-Eye & Nan St. George, I did some reading on female violence against men and learned a thing or two. While I still believe that a male can and often does inflict a much more life threatening degree of abuse in domestic violence cases than a woman who abuses a man, I do know that violence against men is just as wrong and can escalate just as easily. Thank you for giving me food for thought.
Impressive, Sloane. I like your open-mindedness and willingness to learn.
Oh, wow, Sloane! I’m really happy you kept an open-mind–I’ve met so many people who are unwilling too, which is why this topic is such a sensitive topic for me. There are many cases of female-male violence that goes under reported because of bias still based in gender roles, no matter how openminded people claim to be on those kinds of subjects, so it’s good to see somebody actually taking a step back and thinking about the issue!
Because her boyfriend wasn’t beaten as badly. Because she doesn’t cry victim every chance she gets. Because we haven’t heard multiple examples of violence like we have him.
Because Emma didn’t nearly kill Evan. Because she doesn’t have a public pattern of violence and bad behavior. Because she didn’t fake her community service. Because she wasn’t actually convicted of assualt. Do you want me to go on?
Because Emma Roberts and her boyfriend aren’t that famous and we don’t have a life size picture of the boyfriend beaten up almost to death.
Because she didn’t beat him to a pulp. And because she has yet to go on a pity tour about it.
Chris Brown has been whining about the fact that he committed domestic violence for years. He has continued to have violent altercations with others. And through it all he has acted as though he was the victim.
Talking about one person’s violence does not need to have the talk of another brought up. The discussion here is about Chris Brown. It doesn’t need to shift into a discussion about someone else.
You’re right. We should. Why don’t we? Do we already know the reason for this? Perhaps.
What a tiresome young man. Own what you did kid, go to anger management classes and learn something about why you are so quick to anger and beat downs. And stop the blame game. No one made you beat Rhi, not white America, not black America, not brown America, and not red America, not yellow America nor any of the above mixture of America. You did it. Stop with the blame game and start manning up to what you do. God if most men beat a woman like you did Rhi their butt would just be getting out of jail and it wouldn’t matter what color they were. Grow up dude.
Let Goopy drunk lecture him as he watches a series of Miley Cyrus videos – this will be punishment enough for his crimes and he can move on.
@Mitch – I thought such heinous measures were only considered appropriate for child molesters, murderers, & international ‘human rights’ violators…? Seeing as 9/10 times, said prisoners are required to spend their first years out in a mental health facility to recover.
But hey, maybe they’ll let CB draw on the walls as a form of ‘detox’, he seems to enjoy that…
Emma Roberts didn’t almost kill her boyfriend. And chris brown has narcissistic personality disorder. That is all.
I hate when something doesn’t go right its automaticlly a race issue. The fact that he comes off as if the whole beating rhianna was no big deal and how he acts like a 2 year old who hasn’t had a nap when asked about it, is why people are so judgemental him. Plus, we all saw the photo of rhianna after he beat her which is still in everyone’s minds. He sounds racist too, as if it’s “whiteamerica” fault for him being labeled a woman beater. As for jayz, never knew about his past and don’t realty care. Not a fan of his.
The pic that was everywhere of Rihanna looked like some law&order stuff that could have been a morgue photo. That is why it is soo hard to forgive you . I was in a convenience store after this happened and two little girls no more than 15 were lookin at mags of rhi face talking about but what did she do to deserve it . Smh it made me sick. Man up Chris then maybe and only maybe will we all stop thinking that your a entitled little temper tantrum throwing Bitc
The pic that was everywhere of Rihanna looked like some law&order stuff that could have been a morgue photo. That is why it is soo hard to forgive you . I was in a convenience store after this happened and two little girls no more than 15 were lookin at mags of rhi face talking about but what did she do to deserve it . Smh it made me sick. Man up Chris then maybe and only maybe will we all stop thinking that your a entitled little temper tantrum throwing child
I admit that racism is prevalent in america but this is not an example of a poor innocent black man. It honestly has nothing to do with his skin color. It has to do with the fact that he beat Rihanna so horrifically and then not only showed no remorse but only got community service.. that he didn’t even do! Not only did he not do it but he called the black D.A racist. Give me a break.
Stop playing the race card. Stop being a child. Apologize and act remorseful and stop pretending to be a victim. Do your community service. Go beyond that and help out in your community. Donate your time and money. Educate the younger gen that domestic violence isn’t acceptable. Then maybe people will cut you some slack.
Everybody is an artist now. *eye-roll*
Just when you think you can’t hate this guy any more. He has no redeeming qualities. Talking about Jay like that? The nerve on that little b*tch. I love Rihanna but when I think about how hung up she is on that pos, it makes me question her judgement. This dude is vile.
@BlackMamba – Women (or men) who make excuses for/forgive/go back to/ their abusers are all too common =( What can be SO obvious to the rest of the world can apparently evade realization w/some victims of domestic violence.
(And this next comment is *absolutely NOT* intended to be ‘victim blaming’, or anything to DO w/the assault )-> I was just going to say, as far as unrelated life choices go, she really does seem to have some bad judgement.
Putting aside all of his victimization, his comment about “catching” AIDS is idiotic. He makes it sound like all AIDS patients are seedy people and he should be congratulated for not doing drugs or getting the disease.
He should just take some time off and read a book or two. Or three.
Or eight. Or twelve.
Oh stfu Chris Brown!
In order to be called an artist, doesn’t one usually have to make art? Some people can be so pretentious.
The public has it out for you Chris. Everyone has a problem with you, and you can’t see the problem, so it is definitely the public. After all–all you did was beat your girlfriend until she almost died. It could have happened to anyone.
Public distaste for definitely has nothing to do with your whiney attitude, either.
Obviously I agree with all of you: the guy is a massive douchebag.
But, more importantly, even if he is right and white people do get better treatment in similar situations (which is sadly often the case and completely unfair), doesn’t he understand that the way he is treated is the right way? He freaking beat a woman and never show remorse. If society doesn’t shame such actions, then, as a woman, I am terrified.
So persecuted. Poor woman beater gets yet another magazine cover and the platform to reach out to millions. If only he did something positive for a change instead of his obsessive, divisive paranoia.
Because that’s what you are? And every day since, all you’ve done is act like everyone is picking on you unfairly like it was all some kind of set up.
I can’t believe this idiot had two women fighting over him.
I have a question: why do ppl say he beat Rhi until she almost died? Or beat her & left her for dead? Was she in a coma? On life support? Did she have broken bones? I’m just curious where the “death” part comes in at. I’m not a CB fan nor am I a Rhianna fan. Just genuinely curious…
He choked her out to the point of losing consciousness after her dragged her outside of the vehicle to continue to close-fist punch her. The only reason he left her on the sidewalk was because he knew the police were on their way. I don’t remember if he even took the car and drove off or just ran off on foot. The police report is available online somewhere and is very detailed. It should offer some insight.
Hurm. I read she was attacked in the car and left in the car to which Brown took off on foot. I mean finding out you’ve contracted herpes must blow but it wasn’t worth beating her face in for it.
You think he beat her because he suddenly found out he had herpes while driving in a car late at night? You think that’s more likely than her peepin his phone and him raging?
I honestly don’t even know the reason as to why it happened. I remember that was a rumor as was the one you just listed. Considering Brown’s reactions to things I could believe it was herpes to her going through his phone. Both idiotic reasons to bring forth the fists of fury.
And no, not suddenly. Could she have finally admitted that she cheated on him and that’s how he ended up with it, yes. Not the whole ‘I have herpes let me beat you in the face for it.’ But it’s all speculation since neither of them will say what caused it.
STFU crybaby! Your terrible reputation has nothing to do with racism. I’m black and I think you are a childish scumbag. It’s about you being an abusive a-hole who has never showed any remorse.
+1
If you don’t want to be viewed as a woman beater, then don’t commit domestic violence. It is that simple.
Let’s get one thing straight, Fist Brown. If you were white and a woman-beating thug, I’d still hate you.
Well, what he said about Jay Z is true and even I have wondered why he gets such a pass but my guess is he’s got a much better PR team and hired a group of lackeys to do his muscle work. Jay Z has also been known to slap a woman at a backstage concert a while back. Whether she was a groupie or just a fan he was still disrespectful, putting his hands on her face that way. He also has way more money and status than Chrissy and that accounts for a lot in that business. He’s also commercialized his brand for the money so he had to clean up his act, but make no mistake about it, Jay Z still has his thug connections. He just pays others to keep his hands clean.
Chris is is just eye roll inducing. He’s always playing the victim and the woe is me angle. His mother has enabled his ego a lot and she still does. He has this huge sense of entitlement. I wish he would just go away for a long time. Comparing yourself to Trayvon? Really? Man-child, get out of here.
You sound ridiculous. Jay never slapped a woman. There was a video they got edited to appear that way but him and the girl were playing around. She’s spoke about it numerous times and Jay was even at her Bday party a few wks ago (she was an assistant, not some fan or groupie).
Do you also think a man in his forties has thug connections? That’s laughable. He’s a rapper, not a mafia godfather.
Lol Frankie Suge Knight ring a bell? They’re all from that generation and circle of street connections. You think Diddy and Jay Z don’t have connections, especially Jay being from Marcy and who he knew/knows out there from when he was making his paper slinging drugs? .It’s funny how you think he cut all his people off. He still got his connects. They’re just higher level now.And Frank Sinatra was just a singer without any connections either, right?
As for thee woman in the video, if that’s true than I stand corrected.
@Frankie – A rapper who spent quite a bit of his young career hanging w/thugs, dealing/pushing drugs, & managing to work his way to the top… can’t have the ‘connections’ (always associated w/him throughout his life) because he’s 40?
Really? That perspective is the one that’s “laughable“.
What a delusional loser.
“Instead of being called an artist, I’m called a woman beater.” – Those terms are not mutually exclusive. How about this? You’re both! An artist AND a woman beater…
FU chris!!!!! Maybe you shouldn’t of beat your
girlfriend. You should be in jail for attempted murder. No bail and no special celebrity treatments. You are scumb and should be treated at such!
And no people don’t judge you because of your skin color, but because who you are as a man.
omg, really?
yes chris, if you were white things would have gone differently (eye-roll), if you were female things would have gone differently (another eye-roll), if you were a trilioinaire things would have done differently (my eyes are too tired). no shit. if you didn’t beat her, things would have gone differently too. see?
this game can be played all day: if you were darker, and/or not a star, and/or poor, etc. things would have done MUCH differently.
life is not fair but it has been fairer to him than 99.9% of us. how does he NOT see that and most importantly, why are his people not telling him that? who the eff on his team approved this interview?
fishbowl of celebrity i guess.
This fool is one of the reasons that people don’t take the race issue seriously in America. If he had grown up, apologized, and not consistently acted the damn fool the past four years, people would be over it by now. But, no. This idiot has thrown chairs, cussed people out over ten dollars and just generally acted like an annoying, arrogant, piss. Race has absolutely fck all to do with it, and he needs to sit his ass down.
Oh god, now anytime something is racist people are going to identify with Martin- or at least idiots (bless that family though). It’s only race when someone makes it about race and Brown saying we’re racist is just continuing the vicious circle of hate. Like the snake that eats it’s tail, full circle and never ending.
I honestly dislike Cyrus at this point MORE than I dislike Brown. Shocking but it’s been a long while since the beat down- not that the event is okay by any means. It’s everything that followed from his attitude, lying, and sense of higher self worth that makes me still really dislike him, as well as knowing where his fists are most comfortable.
Humble pie Chris, humble pie.
Typical violent woman-beater. HE is the victim. It’s everyone else that won’t let him forget what he did/does, so it’s everyone else’s fault. He talks about racism as if it’s new. If he really cared about racism, why did he beat his black queen? He’s the weakest, most annoying wannabe thug I’ve ever seen. Sorry, you don’t earn street cred by beating up girls and intimidating women.
I have stopped watching The Today Show because of their support of Chris Brown. It sickens me. I agree that if he even seemed regretful many of us ‘White Americans’ would/could potentially forgive his acts. Very reminiscent of Ike Turner.
The last straw was this past summer, the Today Show had him in concert – so I switched to Good Morning America, and they had a great musical antidote – Alicia Keys.
What he did was wrong, but why don’t people ever speak about how violent rihanna was with him. She’s not innocent by any means. They both come from incredibly abusive backgrounds and I have no doubt they constantly abused one another throughout the course of their relationship. The night she went to the hospital, just happened to be one of their more intense fights. You know she provoked him and probably hit him first. He deserves to be labelled as an abuser for the rest of his life, but so does Rihanna. If they ever get back together things will end badly for the both of them. Violence, drugs, and alcohol are a lethal combo.
I’ve heard that she was violent towards him as well. Though it’s worked in her favor that it never gained much attention. Plus America has a tendency to look harder on the male for hitting a female but not a female hitting a male. Which is another form of our country’s hypocrisy. Abuse is abuse. I’ve seen several women slap the living tar out of a man however those women are the ones that believe that if they attack a man, they expect for the man to swing back. But majority feel they shouldn’t be struck back because we women are so dainty (and I am not someone saying it’s alright for violence from any person, just pointing out how most think- not all).
Where is the proof Ri abused CB? It’s not fair for a woman to get away with domestic violence but it’s also not fair to assume that because a woman was beaten she provoked it.
I browsed around and couldn’t find very much since the keywords of Chris Brown, Rihanna, and abuse pretty much brought up the abuse he did to her face. However I found on a site hellobeautiful something or another that shows her being emotionally abusive towards him in an email three months prior to the attack. The writer also hinted that there had been speculation on if she was an attacker towards Brown. Emotional abuse can be as bad as physical though a lot do not agree with that. But I do remember hearing it before (her towards him) he beat her face in.
http://hellobeautiful.com/2010/10/18/rihannas-verbally-abusive-e-mails-to-chris-brown-revealed-photo/
Ri hitting CB is just speculation invented by CB fans. Going back to the original comment made by Rose and then your own response seems to suggest we should hold Ri accountable for rumors or what people think they know to be tbe truth. All we really know is that CB beat Ri. Wanting to make her a villain over rumors is just wrong. What CB did was violent and criminal. A not nice e-mail doesn’t even compare. She doesn’t threaten him she tells him he is ugly on the inside which is 100% accurate.
Not at all, I agree with you. However I did not state that Rihanna should be the villain in this sense. Speaking on truths that exist is one thing but I also made the point to say that it’s all speculation. Rihanna does enough to make her look foolish without the aid of Brown or his fans. Nor did I say the email was a justification for anything. I browsed and showed what I found. Nor did my previous comment indicate that what Brown did was alright by any means. She obviously hasn’t been held accountable for why Brown hit her by the comments nor the media and that’s because she doesn’t need to be. Violence isn’t acceptable in any situation unless it’s a fight for your life or your family- both of which was not the reason as to why Brown attacked Rihanna. I was simply saying that I, too, had heard rumors that she had gotten physical with him.
Okay I’m NOT justifying what he did at ALL, but he does kinda make a good point about the Jay Z thing…
He should go play football where no crime is too great for forgiveness.
I understand why he doesn’t wanted to be associated with being a woman beater, but I think we can all understand why he is. However, artist? Where did that come from? I think you’re clutching at straws there mate.
Whether people like to admit it or not, the mainstream media and America is racist and highly biased towards blacks and people of colour in terms of villifying them for transgressions that are decades old. Emma Robert, Charlie Sheen and Sean Penn are not villified like this. Even Saatchi has not been into a pariah. So before everybody jump in attacking Chris as if he is a murderer, pedophile or suicide bomber, they should look at the constant harassment he is been put through and if they can take it. Remember Vicks went to prison for dogfighting and cruelty to animals (a bad thing) but Zimmerman killed somebody and is at home relaxing.
The Zimmerman verdict was a travesty of justice. Even though white celebrities have been less maligned than Brown, he and all unrepentant abusers deserve the scorn that is heaped upon them.
So I guess in your eyes, he should get a pass because he didn’t actually KILL Rhianna…oh and right, cuz he’s BLACK.
Sorry, race card ain’t working for you here. Try another site where people aren’t defending people who beat women!
Str8Shooter, I didn’t read Sunny’s opinion as playing the race card or even defending Brown because he’s black. IMO, using the phrase ‘playing the race card’ is a backlash defense mechanism white people use for being called out and recognized as racists.
All Sunny did was point out that black transgressions are judged more harshly than whites committing even more heinous crimes, but she didn’t minimize Brown’s crime in any way.
I think that comment was a case of saying that if you condemn one for breaking the social contract, you should condemn all who commit that same transgression. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be punished. I also think it meant that people should be punished equally and across the board based on the severity of their crimes which just doesn’t happen. But that doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be contrite or be left off the hook, or that anyone should see him as a victim in the way that he wants. I think it just means that there are a lot of other people should be right up there with him and they’re not.
Even still, that one drop of sober-mindedness about the system isn’t exactly drawing tears from anyone. He knows the world because what did he think would happen and does he think the crabs in a bucket mentality is going to make him more sympathetic?
Does someone need to tell him he’s not a Charlie Sheen or a Sean Penn and before he goes off? Because he already knows this and yes, it’d be nice if the protection of his own image weren’t the main reason for him to change his behaviour, but whatever works.
Zimmerman had a jury trial. The evidence just wasn’t there to convict Zimmerman. Sad but true. I was hoping for manslaughter but knew even that chance was slim after watching the State put on its case. I live here in Central Florida. I watched the whole trial. Zimmerman was overcharged from the get-go as far as second degree murder as far as evidence, and they couldn’t even make manslaughter stick. The State practically put on a defense case. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life working in the court system. You can know someone should be in jail like him, but a jury can’t convict them based on that. They have to go by the evidence presented at trial and the jury instructions given to them from the Court before deliberation.
Michael Vick pled guilty and accepted a plea deal.
Chris’ problem was there was photographic evidence of his brutality. It’s jarring compared to hearing something and it was Rihanna, who is a beloved popstar. I thought Chris at his age should be given a chance. I always thought he was talented. Chris has been his own worst enemy since the incident with his behavior that turns people off, and that’s his fault, no one else’s. He came back and his career was still huge. So it’s not like he was ostracized out of the music industry.
I call this guy The Unflushable. He’s like a turd in the toilet that refuses to be swept down the bowl. No matter how many times you flush, he keeps bobbing back up, like a piece of crap with an extraordinary will to survive.
It’s the only possible explanation.
+1 can’t stand this guy
Just like Canada’s own Stephen Harper. The great unflushable – awesome post glad I came back to this thread – discussions about CB are much more entertaining than the fashion articles.
Bah, Harper’s like a blast of the scoots in the bowl. I can’t believe we elected the frigging Republicans — by a majority! I’m still posting on #TellVicEverything. God, I hate those guys.
Well it’s nice to see that after that many time passed he is still suffering from that beating! His album may sole and singles may be hits but that fact that he cries about it in every interview means he thihnks about it all the time. It means that regular people he meets every day look at him like he is monster. And he knows they look at him and think that way.
Public and their despise punished him instead of Law. If he still cries about it then we won. And I’m sure people Mel Gibson suffers the same way. That every person he bumps into when he is out of the house despise him and look at him like he is monster. And he knows it. Only he doesn’t cry about it like Chris.
Delusional a$$wipe.
I actually feel bad for him. He was 19 when this happened, probably had no idea of who he was and/or that he was capable of that level of violence. What were/are his coping mechanisms?
Since then, he probably hasn’t had any guides in his life to help him be more self-reflective and/or to help him build a newer and more healthier life. If I am not mistaken, he came from a home where his mom was abused and he could have been abused too–if not physically, emotionally & psychologically. If he had those guides or was more in tune with himself (and perhaps he is growing in that direction), then he wouldn’t should so “whiney” or even feel the need to point out the hypocrisy of his situation.
And just so you all can know, I have said nearly the same things about Rhianna re: the need for growth, maturity, self-reflection, spiritual, emotional, and psychological healing.
+1…every time I click on a link about CB I’m saddened by the flood of comments vilifying him like he’s the anti-Christ yet there’s zero regard as to how he got to where he is in the first place (and as the above poster noted, this applies to Rihanna too since she also came from an abusive background).
Where’s the compassion about what led him to his current circumstances? Why is it so much easier to call him every nasty name in the book without trying to understand his influences that led him down the path that he’s currently facing? I guess it’s so much easier to hate instead of trying to figure out another person’s motivations that led them to make their mistakes. Doing that does not make someone weak or forgiving of the person who committed the crime; I think it just makes one a little more aware and perhaps a bit more understanding.
There is power in forgiveness.
@Danskins – I won’t claim my comment above fits the description you make in your comment, but I did do a little research, posting a very small excerpt from Wikipedia regarding Chris’ mother having an abusive boyfriend that Chris was written as having been terrified of. My comment didn’t get replies, so I’m not sure anyone saw it, buti did mention it as being something that gave me the ability to undertand where his anger may have started, also pointing out that his mother surely wasn’t the only one subjected to abuse, in that situation. (not even considering the fact that victims of abuse usually end up in a pattern, going right to other abusers, time after time. So he may have been abused his whole childhood, watching his mom be abused.
It’s all so disgusting… The sort of anger he has is textbook, but he just… Seems determined not to acknowledge it. =(
What a moron. I seriously hope someone smacks the living SHIT out of this asshole.
Yes. You’re a WOMAN BEATER. CUZ YOU BEAT A WOMAN!!!!!!
thats because you are a lowlife piece of shit WOMEN BEATER.YOU ARE NOTHING ELSE
Chris is not delusional or POS. He speaks the truth and how many times must he apologise for what happened five years ago. Because he is black , he must continously have to say sorry mam and sir? He has apologised full stop.
Yes, CB has apologized for beating Rhianna and nearly killing her. However, his behavior since has not exactly endeared him to the American public and has done nothing to soften our scorn.
Faking his community service, flying into a rage and throwing a chair into a glass window, abandoning his longtime bodyguard in Bermuda following a disagreement, starting a fight with a valet during a charity event over a $10 service fee, and ripping the microphone from a DJ to rant “you gotta say that one thing to her, and I made this s–t up. Don’t make me have to tell you again, that that’s my p—y baby! It is mine, baby, babe, mine. So you better not give it away!” are the acts of an unrepentant rage filled abuser.
I realize I’m repeating Jayna’s comment below, but Chris’ actions do speak way louder than his apology.
@Sunny – I’ve read your opinions above throughout the comments, & I’m genuinely asking… Where/when has he ever taken responsibility for his actions? When has he (not including in court) really apologized in a way that was accepting what he *actually did* as wrong, & the results it had on Rihanna? Has he ever spoken of his sentence in a way that shows he’s aware that he deserves punishment for his actions?
The only times I (personally) have seen him talk about his sentence, he’s complaining about how ‘unfair’ it is, then recently heard that he’d lied about completing the required hours of community service of his sentence (when it seemed like a very light sentence for a violent crime of that severity to begin with), when he hadn’t, so his probation was revoked (?). I’d heard he said something apologetic in front of the judge, but people will say anything in front of the judge, hoping to get a better sentence.
Based on those things I know, paired w/the extremely unpleasant pictures of Rihanna afterwards, I developed my opinions. His subsequent actions further influence my opinions. I’m a white woman in my late 20’s, & what color he & Rihanna are was the *last* thing on my mind. I don’t feel that your defense of him based on race is right, but really do want to know if there’s something I’ve missed.
He’s not a bit sorry for what he did. He’s sorry he’s being called out for it. And no, I’m not picking on him because he’s black. I’m black too and he’s a POS.
His actions after have made him not particularly likeable. He storms off a show, rips off his shirt, acts like he’s throwing a chair through their window, he acts sullen all the time, has gotten into several fights with other singers, carries on on twitter ranting. His unbelievable failure at rehabbing his image afterwards because of his behavior is what has kept him down, not just the incident. Then he whines, playing the victim.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but he has a point. Stabbing somebody”.??????? That’s CRAZY. J-Z has “matured”….WATTTT He could have killed a man! They are both potential murderers in my opinion. Both revolting.
DOES chris brown know rhianna boned J-Z to get a record deal when she was just 16? SMALL WORLD
@Vanass01 – Was there ever any proof that JayZ had any sort of relationship w/Rihanna? *curious* I’ve never heard that before. Closest I ever heard was RKelly & Aaliyah *shudder*
Was hoping this guy would attack the wrong person and he would ceast to exist or something. I don’t understand why women like my ex co worker always stick up for this guy. Why is this? It seems there’s some women who are also women haters too
Oh….boo-fucking-hoo.
At best CB is suffering from massive narcissistic personality disorder to the point of being a borderline sociopath. Sociopaths show no remorse for criminal and violent behaviour. They blame everyone around them for their shortcomings and go into terrible rages at the snap of a finger if they’re contradicted. Couple that with his fame, money and adulation and you’ve got a perfect storm and a ticking time bomb.
@Jaded – It’s really horrible to think we could be dealing w/the next OJ. The sort of rage CB has shown over nothing is what scares me. He is a genuinely frightening person… Who I hate to say, could see seeing his name go along the bottom of the screen during a news report, talking about a murder. Like, I genuinely see it as likely, seeing as he doesn’t seem to want to admit he’s got serious issues & get help for them.
He is such a whiny, self centered, punk ass bitch. His graffiti is laughable. He’s like a little kid, running around going woe is me. MAN THE F UP!
He says “we aren’t on drugs”. Guess he conveniently forgot all about those pics of him smoking weed with his victim, Rihanna.
I included a pic of him, with 1 of my posts, further up the page, a lovely image of him with three blunts sticking out of his mouth, that he put on Instagram.
Get used to it woman beater…that tag will stick until you grow up and man up and start acting like a respectable human being. Which I’m guessing is never.
You are a woman beater….that artist sh***t fell off along time ago. Unless you consider being an artist of deception and lies by NOT doing your Community Service….Jesse Voice “Biiiiiiatch”
Just because you become a singer and have one or two hit songs, doesn’t mean that you also possess intelligence or integrity.