Chiwetel Ejiofor: ’12 Years a Slave’ is a universal story about human dignity, freedom

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Many of you are always asking for more Chiwetel Ejiofor, so here you go. We’ll see how this works out. I suspect that this will be one of the least commented-upon stories of the day, but sometimes when I put that out there, you bitches rally your vocal support. It’s not that I dislike Chiwetel or think him untalented – I like him very much and I think he’s incredibly talented, and he’s on his way to his first Oscar nomination this year for 12 Years a Slave (these are pics of Ejiofor at the NYFF screening of the film two nights ago). The problem is that Chiwetel doesn’t say anything controversial or particularly soundbyte-y. He’s measured, intelligent, contemplative and sensitive. Maybe people would pay more attention to him if he twerked about slavery? Anyway, Chiwetel has a lengthy and interesting interview with Flicks & Bits – you can read the full thing here. Some highlights:

On the story of of Solomon Northup: “The story is so impactful and so real. The emotional journey was an extraordinary challenge, but it’s the kind of challenge where everything else kind of falls away and the character becomes an obsession. That obsession gave way to insight. I’ve thought a lot about this film in the context of how it applies to our contemporary world, and I think there is something about Solomon that stretches across time and place, that touches something very deep inside us all. It’s that sense of our own personal belief in our freedoms and our connections to our families and the people who surround us. That’s the real power of Solomon’s story. It is beautifully rich and deep and tragic and redemptive – but it’s a very human story. It’s a story about human dignity and our freedoms and what we most require in the world.

Researching the story: “The book was my template. But then going to Louisiana and seeing the real plantations where everything has been preserved, from the main house to the slave huts, and where all of these events really occurred, I got a further sense of things. I was able to talk with people about stories from that time and got a sense of all these ghosts sort of being conjured up.”

Solomon’s journey: “Music was his way of feeling connected to the community and he was considered talented and special. At the beginning of the story, he’s a charming man very much in his ascendency. He is respected in his community, but I feel that perhaps he had developed a kind of distance from the reality of what was happening in other places in America. And that’s part of what he is confronted by when he ends up in Louisiana, where he has to come to terms with all he has ignored and tried to avoid. I think he really didn’t have any concept that being kidnapped was possible, that there was even the kind of infrastructure to support that. I mean it was reported in the news, but it’s likely he thought ‘that could never happen to me.’ So as he begins his journey, I think he still believes he’s going to get out of this. Even when he’s on a boat to New Orleans, he thinks there will be a way out. He holds onto a belief that slavery is so out of tilt with the moral world, it’s impossible it could continue forever.”

Working with Fassbender & McQueen: “I was lucky that we started the process of filming with Michael Fassbender. The first three weeks of shooting were on the Epps plantation, and that gave me a great insight into their working relationship and what their dynamic is like. It’s like learning a language, it’s like being a child and learning how to speak by watching other people. I was very keen to figure out how to communicate with Steve, as he was with me. But I loved it, I love working with Steve. He is incredible.”

More on Fassbender and Fassy’s character Epps: “I think Epps has no framework for dealing with Solomon as a human being. Yet Solomon, just in his way of being, demands acknowledgment as a human. It’s a point of confusion for Epps. And I think that’s why he tries to destroy whatever that thing is in Solomon that is so free and alive. Michael found something so extraordinary and specific in how to embrace this character as a whole. He doesn’t just play Epps as a mean guy – it would be easy just to be mean – but he plays him as someone who is suffering within himself, who considers the world to be kind of against him, and tries to right that by lashing out at the things that he thinks he owns, people like Solomon and the other slaves on his plantation. Michael gave Epps a rounded quality that is equal parts engaging and terrifying.”

[From Flicks & Bits]

You know what I find interesting, just from a media-analysis standpoint? I find it interesting that the American media outlets whose target audience is African-American aren’t quite sure what to do with this film. 12 Years a Slave has been widely praised by critics all around, and it’s following a traditional Oscar-contender route through the media. But the “urban sites” aren’t paying extra attention like they were with Fruitvale Station and even Quentin Tarantino’s Django Unchained. Is it because the director and star of 12 Years are both British and they’re seen as somehow “outside” of the African-American/American slavery experience? Or is it what I said before – Chiwetel Ejiofor is simply a quiet, decent, intelligent man and that doesn’t make for exciting promotional work?

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  1. Sixer says:

    Insofar as commenting here, rather than elsewhere, I think maybe Chiwetel is just too Galahad-or-Percival-like to inspire smut.

    I love him but I don’t want to gag him.

    I think this is a good, but comment-lite, thing?

    On the other hand, I could probably run with a few remarks about holies and grails?

    • LadySlippers says:

      @Sixer — But nice/smart boys are *the* most fun to gag!!!! He could totally be locked somewhere in Thornfield… The hedgehogs might like someone new to nibble on…

      😉

      • Sixer says:

        We could take him to gaze upon him?

      • LadySlippers says:

        Yes! To gaze upon! As well as…. 😉

        Plus, we DO need to rotate the men to prevent Brit Boy Fatigue. It’s a serious illness and entirely preventable.

        Hopefully we can find a clean room for him to retire in….

      • j.eyre says:

        Bite your tongue – his voice is like a well-churned cream; to gag him would be a crime.

      • Sixer says:

        He can always retire kn my salon. Lighting is perfect in theree.

        I would never gag him!

      • LadySlippers says:

        My sincere apologies Miss Erye. I was merely suggesting we could do much more than just gaze upon him. That’s all.

        *deeply curtsies and backs out of room*

      • j.eyre says:

        Don’t go anywhere, LS – I enjoy people to watch my work.

        Honestly, I would love to lay my head on his shoulder as he reads The Count of Monte Cristo to me…

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        He does have an amazing voice. I remember the first time that I heard it on a BBC Radio play and I thought, ‘Who is this engaging actor with this speaking voice of gilded rainbows?’

    • Miss Jupitero says:

      I could never gag him. I want him to whisper endlessly into my ear. He’s the real thing.

      I only resort to gagging those who are annoying or trying too hard to impress me. TommyAnnE may be on permanent ball gag.

      • Sixer says:

        “the real thing”

        That’s it, exactly. Perhaps consequently, my fantasies about him are comparatively chaste.

  2. xboxsucks says:

    it s a hard movie and for what i could understand it s a crude,realistic one.
    while django made a mockery of slavery ,this movie doesnt hold back maybe that s why so many people arent talking /wont watching it.
    will definitely see it but i know it will be a difficult experience.

  3. Anna says:

    Fruitvale hits closer to home and Quentin is a bigger name than McQueen and usually has bigger stars in his movies. Dicaprio is a bigger draw than Fassbender even though he’s not better.

    • cs says:

      @Anna

      I agree with you on why the Black Media hasn’t talked much about this movie. I would also add Jamie Fox is more well known than Chiwetel Ejiofor.

      If Denzel Washington had been cast in the Lead Role there would be covers on Ebony, Jet and Essence magazines.

      I wonder what Spike Lee’s take on this?
      I’m sure he has a problem since he believes no one other than a American Black can direct or produce movies about the Black experience.

      Well, I plan on seeing it. Can’t wait for the opening.

      • Kim1 says:

        I think Spike will like his issue w Django was slavery was treated in a cavalier manner.Also Spike likes and respects Brad.John Singleton loves TYAS

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        Steve McQueen isn’t one to suffer fools, play to the cheap seats, brand himself as ‘A Sunny Black Man For The Whole Family’ for People Magazine or waste time with speedy hyper-loquacious babble. His films are uncompromising, as is he and he hasn’t been on he scene for a terribly long time. It seems as though this film has more buzz than the ones preceding it (well, after the purple parsnip was revealed it had the whole honeycomb rattling), but from I’ve heard, this film isn’t for one with a weak constitution.

        As for the ‘urban’ market, I imagine that his being English does factor into it somewhat, but he’s not really a ‘black movie’ director. Everyone’s tired of Spike Lee’s pontifications and MANY people just can’t take Tyler Perry and his neo-Mabley drag act valourizing the good black men and demonizing the professional black Jezebel who has strayed.

        And honestly, people are just frigging sick of American slave movies and mainstream (as opposed to targeting black audiences) movies that put blacks in servile positions and beatify the quiet dignity of the overlooked, saviour of more important white person or in need of saving that comes via the white saviour.

        I don’t know, we’ll see at the box office, I guess.

    • IMO says:

      DiCaprio is WAY much better than Fassy. But this is MY opinion.

  4. T. Fanty Fan says:

    I feel as though we should be embarrassed to NOT find an intelligent, thoughtful, good looking man more exciting. Not everyone can be Cumby of Hiddles.

    • elvynn says:

      This. But *He twerked into slavery* could be offensive. Black aren’t define by twerking.

      • Norman Bates' Mother says:

        I don’t think the comment about twerking was related to his skin color at all. I understood it in the Miley Cyrus context. Posts about her are usually the most popular and all she does is twerking, stripping and sticking her tongue out. She in neither intelligent, nor contemplative but people these days don’t find those qualities as worthy and interesting as twerking and saying stupid, contradictory stuff just for publicity.

        I couldn’t agree more with you T. Fanty. A few years ago I had a major crush on Chiwetel but it started not because of his looks but because of how inteligent he is after I accidentally watched his interview. He is very insightful and his interviews are always a delight. Plus he has a beautiful voice. I think this should be considered more exciting than all those artificial controversies.

    • Leah says:

      Exactly this!

    • V4Real says:

      +1 Why is it that one of the most underrated actors of our time gets over looked because he’s not controversial or outspoken like people such as Hiddles or Cumby. Hiddles popularity stems from him playing a supervilian in a comic book movie but yet he gets over a hundred comments on a post much about nothing. But who am I kidding; who’s going to care much about a talented, boring, not in your face actor when you have the likes of Hemsworth, Cumby and Fassbender; the popular boys in the class. Tom Hanks only made an appearance on C/B because of his health issue but when was the last timr we read a post about him. We don’t care about less newsworthy celebs.

      • icerose says:

        I am a huge fan of both Chiwetel and Tom because they are both actors who when given the right parts bring an intelligence to their portrayals which I find uplifting. They both worked together in Othello and Tom has already tipped him as his Oscar choice.
        I saw Chiwetel in a Day in the Congo and he was magnificent. His ability to show human dignity shinning through in adverse conditions was incredibly moving. It was actually one of the first shows I have been to where I was one of the first people to stand up. What really sounds interesting is the dynamic between in which slave owner is threatened by his slaves intelligence and bearing. To often the antagonism focuses on muscle or “superior intelligence” not on a type of dignified integrity which can and have changed nations. And it is pretty sexy as well.

      • icerose says:

        I was so glad that Tom Hanks stood up and that the gaining and losing of weight for film roles had an impact on his being diagnosed with diabetes. I have long felt that the increasing tendency of actors to beef or slim down up etc was not that healthy be it a man or a women. A lot of these diets play havoc with your metabolic system. Although it was the first time since Philadelphia that he has actually said anything that interested me.

        And the reason that Tom and Benny get so many comments is that it is easier to fill up threads with banter proclaiming what you would do to them or in Tom’s case just bouncing all your negative feelings off him than think of an original approach to their posts.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        I’m surprised that we don’t see celebrities keeling over from heart attacks every fortnight.

  5. Andrea says:

    This guy is such a class act and I can’t wait to see this film.

    • mpb says:

      Agree, Andrea! I love him and the thing is, how is he not a huge star? Because he can do it all. He’s absurdly handsome, he’s smart, he can sing and dance, he can play a creepy villain. He has a fascinating back story. Come on!

      But good point, Kaiser, that the media doesn’t know quite what to do with this movie.

  6. Esti says:

    Thank you for this post! And for switching to Chiwetel instead of Chewy. This man is so impressive — think of how many actors try to sound deep and wind up sounding pretentious and silly, whereas Chiwetel is saying truly insightful things. Really looking forward to this movie.

  7. ag-UK says:

    I can’t wait to see it, got tickets for next week. I hope I don’t have a complete breakdown. He is lovely and such a fantastic actor.

    • Dappadaph says:

      I know I am trying to decide if I should go see this alone before taking my teen who will be studying Slavery and the US Civil War in her history class. I will definitely take a hankie.

  8. Leah says:

    Its alright kaiser. We can take an intelligent, thoughtful man too!! Its a breath of fresh air in between the hiddleston and kardashian post so keep it coming.

  9. cass says:

    Oh those huge eloquent eyes. I can stare into them for eternity. Steve MCQueen knows their power too. A lot of this magnificent performance is that Chiwetel telling us the story through those eyes.

    • I Choose Me says:

      OMG yes! His eyes alone, mesmerize when he’s on screen. He has such an expressive face and such nuance. I’m eagerly looking forward to this film.

  10. Bea says:

    This guy is taking a leaf out of daniel day lewis book, he is only interested in being an actor and has no time for celebrity. It was reported that he was dating australian actress Radha Mitchell for years but he never spoke about his personal life. He is very private and i think he wants that anonynity so that he can be credible in parts. I love actors like this.

  11. j.eyre says:

    I hope its his year, he is a very talented man and it would be great if everyone knew about him.

    And, when we get married, we are totally recreating his wedding scene from Love Actually.

    • Anna says:

      OMG THAT’s why he looked so familiar! Love that movie 🙂

    • bluhare says:

      That was him??? It’s almost time to watch that again!

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        It’s on netflix–not that I know that because I obsessively watch it every weekend…..

        What I love the most about his and Keira’s part is that it wasn’t a big deal–their race. I’m all for having movies about interracial relationships, and that being the main focus–that being the drama so to speak, but I do want more movies that treat it as not even a concern–like Love Actually.

        And God, the part where “Uncle Bill” says ‘Here’s a message from your Uncle Bill. Don’t buy drugs. Become a popstar and they give you them for free!”—that ALWAYS cracks me up.

      • j.eyre says:

        Did you know that wedding scene was inspired by Jim Henson’s funeral? Many of the puppeteers snuck in there muppets and brought them out during the service. Now I cry every time I see the movie.

        I watch it every year when I lock myself in the office to wrap Christmas presents.

  12. Krissy says:

    I think this guy deserves a post or 3. He is a major contender on the award season and will probably be around a lot this coming season.

    And can i just say that i have notice a pattern with certain actors on this site. Its not because they have a large group of fans that they get so many comments. Its because they have a small dedicated group of fans that comment again and again. Take hiddleston who is a minor actor on a grander scale and not a big celebrity. If you actually read the comments on his post, its always the same 5 posters commenting over and over. So if Chiwetel has 5 dedicated fangirls that post like crazy about him every day i guess he could become a daily fixture here too. 😉

    • Sixer says:

      I think a great deal of it is about banter, too. I’ve followed Ejiofor’s career for a long time. I think he is easy on the eye, but it’s his work I’m interested in. I’m much more a fan of this guy than I am of either HiddlyAnna or Benny the Cucumber. Yet I comment many times on most of their posts. It’s not so much about them as it is about the conversation with other readers here.

      That Ejiofor doesn’t inspire smut is A Good Thing in terms of a serious career and respect from his audience. But the funniest banter on this site is smutty. It’s generally a lighthearted site, albeit a more intelligent one than your average gossip site, and a part of that is banter between commenters. The more banter, the more “popular” a thread looks. But 20 serious comments simply say something slightly different about the subject than 200 smutty/flirty/banter comments. It’s not all about quantity.

      It’s just the nature of the beast.

      • Atlanta says:

        @ sixer. Who says we dont want a man with brains, talent and sensitivity? Who says that isnt entertaining and exciting?
        Honestly though, how is a video of Tom H talking to a smurf or whatever that thing was smut? Its just a silly fangirl post for those of you whom are obsessed with him.

      • Sixer says:

        @ Atlanta

        Colour me confused. Is your comment intended for me or has it gone astray?

        I write a comment to say that I am a big fan of Ejiofor and less of a fan of TH and BC. I say that the draw to comment on TH and BC posts is the contribution made by other commenters on this site and not TH or BC themselves.

        And you think I have said nobody wants a “man with brains, talent and sensitivity”? Seriously?

        You didn’t understand that when I said “smut” I was referring to the comments section of posts? When this article talks about comments on posts? When I was explicitly remarking on my thoughts as to why Ejiofor articles may get fewer comments than TH or BC articles? When I was replying to a comment on the subject of multiple commenters on TH and BC posts?

        BTW, it’s “who” for a subject and “whom” for an object.

        I will try again in smaller words:

        I like Ejiofor a lot more than I like Hiddleston or Cumberbatch.

        I like commenting on Hiddleston and Cumberbatch posts because I like the smutty banter between other Celebitchy readers.

        I hope we’re on the same page now!

      • V4Real says:

        @ sixer
        I understood you the first time (wink) and just wanted to chime in on what you said. You’re right, most of the Hiddles posts are much ado about nothing. It’s just a fun place where posters can share friendly fun banter amongst each other. Sometimes as you know certain posts can lead to some pretty heavy intense and very opininated responses. What celebs such as Hemsworth, Hiddles and Cumby does is allow us to enjoy the fun side of C/B where things are not so serious. It’s good to have that balance.

      • Atlanta says:

        Hey again sixer. I am not confused at all. I never said you didnt like chiwetel, nor that it was wrong for you to banter, i was just commenting on the notion that toms posts are more gossip worthy.
        Playing fancy dress up at comic con and singing at disney conference and talking to smurfs is not controversial. The rest of the posts seems to be about how much the man loves shakespeare, which doesnt really qualify as gossip worthy either ( at least if we are talking about a formally trained british stage actor). I guess i just agree that his appearent popularity ( comments) seems down to a few eager posters such as yourself.
        You must excuse my less than perfect english, its not my first language, i would appreciate it if you dont make fun of my mistakes. Thanks and peace.

      • Sixer says:

        @ V4Real

        Exactly!

        @ Atlanta

        I apologise for correcting your grammar. It was rude. I’m not usually rude, so now I feel doubly bad!

        You’re still missing my point, though. If TH and BC posts are good for many comments always, then they are gossip-worthy, no matter how slight the topic. That’s the definition of gossip!

        I’m saying that the quantity of comments hereabouts is as much about the commenters talking to one another as it is the person being gossiped about.

        If you actually *read* all the comments on those posts, you’ll see at least one or two on each one saying “I hung around at/started to comment at/keep reading Celebitchy because you guys are so funny”.

        If our glorious Celebitchy leaders see this, of course they’re going to cover the people who get the funny comments. It’s a draw to the site. And it’s fun for the people who comment. What could possibly be wrong with that?

        And if an Ejiofor post gets only a few comments, it doesn’t say anything bad about him OR the commenters on more “popular” men. It probably says that Ejiofor has more lasting appeal and is taken more seriously in his career, if it says anything.

      • Leah says:

        Atlanta, your english is very good indeed. I wish my spanish or french was as good. Please dont feel self conscious.

      • LadySlippers says:

        @ Atlanta — I’ve lurked on CB for awhile and started commenting because of the banter. It is fun.

        The who/whom issue is *very* confusing to most Americans (myself included) and Brits do seem to have a better grasp on grammar than most. And Sixer is a lovely Brit and I am sure meant no offense.

        I hope we’ll see more of you. 🙂

      • Lucrezia says:

        I want to help up the post count to support the Chiwetel fans, but I have nothing much to say. I haven’t seen much of his work. I could just treat him as a sex object ala Cumby/Hiddles, but it seems a bit disrespectful to do that in a 12 Years post.

        So I’m going to out Sixer: she’s an editor in real life. I’d assume that correcting grammar is an automatic reflex. The who/whom error is probably like nails on a chalkboard to an editor.

        Edit: Do English schools explicitly teach grammar? I wasn’t taught anything beyond “nouns are naming words, verbs are doing words”. (Australian school). I think that might have changed these days, just that when I went, they were experimenting, trying to see if the kids could learn grammar by osmosis. It only worked to a point. I can usually “hear” what is right/wrong, but I can’t for the life of me explain what the rules actually are. I have no idea what a subject and an object are.

      • Sixer says:

        I think rude editor sums it up – and I am a structural rather than copy editor, so I have no excuse.

        Sorry again, Atlanta.

        @ Lucrezia – some grammar is taught, but not enough for pupils to express themselves clearly, IMHO.

        Subnect = actor.
        Object = acted upon.

      • bluhare says:

        And I just want to jump on here to give a shout out to all you non-native English posters who I have no idea are not native speakers until they out themselves.

        I probably screwed up the who/whom and I am a native speaker!

      • V4Real says:

        Now that we have gotten that grammer issue out the way who can help me with the new math they are teaching in American Schools. I know you Brits got (have gotten) this down pack……LOL

    • Jackie Jormp Jomp (formerly Zelda) says:

      I have to agree. Why is there a Benedict Cumberbatch post to skip over EVERY DAY. It’s getting really annoying, since a lot of people here don’t like him. Let’s give some other (ACTUALLLY GOOD LOOKING) actors a go.

      • bluhare says:

        THANK YOU.

      • LadySlippers says:

        RE: Grammar in American schools. It really varies from state to state, as well as, from school district to school district. I remember being taught grammar but it never made a DAMN bit of sense. Like you Lucrezia, I can often hear/see something is wrong but couldn’t tell you exactly why. Very frustrating. It’s nice to hear that other English speaking countries aren’t masters of grammar either. And I’m secretly jealous of a great many Brits, they seem to make love to the English language that simply makes my heart skip a beat. *heart flutters*

        And somehow, I gave birth to a grammar Nazi. Lol. She lives for grammar and anything English!

        Sixer — you’re an editor?!? How cool! What’s the difference between copy & structural editor?

        To all the non-native English speakers, my hat is off to you as English is a tough tough language to master.

      • Sixer says:

        A copy editor will check grammar, punctuation and spelling.

        A structural editor (in fiction) will look at plot cohesion, style, continuity, etc. And may make comments on characterisation and other points.

        The roles do get blurred and overlapped, though.

  13. Gabriella says:

    Give me a million more interviews with this man over any more cumberbatch or hiddleston please! I could stand to see his face and read his words every day.

    • lorajo says:

      OMG THIS. I’m totally on Cumby and Hiddle overload (prolly cause I couldn’t care less about either).

      OTH, I’ve had a HUGE crush on Chiwetel since Kinky Boots.

  14. Elodie says:

    FINALLY a sole Chiwetel post! Aaaahhhhh he’s such an amazing person 🙂

  15. Tati says:

    Finally he got his own post. So tired of seeing the 12 years of a slave posts headed by Cumberbatch and Pitt who both have small parts in that movie.

  16. Sugarrbunny says:

    I ADORE him. I have ever since I saw him in Kinky Boots! He was understated brilliance in Inside Man & I’m so excited that this will he his breakout film

  17. duchess of hazard says:

    I do hang around a few ‘urban’ (gah, dislike that classification)sites who are looking forward to the movie and appreciate Steve McQueen’s outlook. I think as the nation wide release draws nearer, you’ll see at least Ejiofior being interviewed. Right now the movie is still doing the exclusive views and not a lot of urban sites (like The Bossip, Jack and Jill, The Root, etc) will have that sort of reach.

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      I hate ‘urban’ too. Did I order the first Crusade? Because that’s the only ‘Urban’ person I know. Actually, it could have been me–the 1090s are such a blur.

  18. linlin says:

    Gorgeous, thoughtful & intelligent as well as a good actor should be enough to feature him more!

  19. Cazzee says:

    It looks like it’s a great film, and I plan on seeing it – probably when it comes out in streaming, not in the theater. It just looks so intense, I think I might watch it in a few sittings.

    And Ejiofor is one of my favorite actors, ever since I saw him in Dirty Pretty Things.

  20. SarahP says:

    I have loved this man ever since I saw him in “Kinky Boots.” He’s not controversial, but I definitely give him my attention whenever he’s in front of me!

    • olaf78 says:

      Oh I forgot KInky Boots! I really liked it and Joel Edgerton (fellow Aussie) was also good in it.

      But Dirty Pretty Things is the film that introduced me to him and it is a wonderful film. See it if you haven’t.

      Of course he was also in Serenity which kicks arse!

  21. Sadezilla says:

    Yes, more Chiwetel please! He’s a much-needed palate cleanser from the Kartrashians et al.

  22. Jess says:

    Thanks for posting this. As much as I thought this movie looked amazing the first time I saw a trailer, my initial thought was that I couldn’t watch this because it would be too hard/sad. But reading this bit makes me realize that there’s much more to this story than just the tragedy and I really do need to see it.

  23. Layla says:

    The controversial thing is that… he’s not very nice by reputation. He’s quite cold and a bit of a snob – this is through a friend of a friend but I believe it. Not rude or disrespectful, but not friendly or engaging.

    His interviews are super low key. He’s not going to do a Mila Kunis or John Cho and win fans with his comments. Hell, he’s not even an Idris E or a Benedict C (who divide people with their interviews but create crazed fans).

    • LadySlippers says:

      Really Layla? That’s unfortunate. Could it be that he’s that way due to shyness or such an extreme need to be private? Just curious.

    • Jackie Jormp Jomp (formerly Zelda) says:

      Why should he be friendly and engaging with your friend? If he’s not rude and he’s professional, who cares? Not everyone likes chitchat with strangers, and they don’t owe it to us just because we want it, whether they are actors or people at the busstop. I HATE small talk and politely answer and mind my business when people try to chat me up in public. I’m not cold, but I also usually am not up for meaningless blather with people I will never see again. And I’m actually an extrovert, believe it or not. Just not a fan of talking about nothing.

  24. Maggie says:

    Looking forward to watching this film. This guy is a great actor.

  25. lower-case deb says:

    his appearance, to me, looks as if he’s at once unapproachable and cuddly. weird heh heh.

  26. LadySlippers says:

    I don’t think I’ve seen any of his films. 🙁

    If you had to recommend some of his work — what would your top three recommendations be and *why* do you recommend those films?

    Thanks in advance! 🙂

  27. pwal says:

    I can’t speak to if ‘urban’ sites are decidedly quiet about this subject matter, but I did notice that after TIFF and Telluride, there were a lot of comments on ‘mainstream’ websites that were defensive and deflective i.e. bringing up that Africans sold other Africans to the traders, today’s slave trade is much worse, etc.

    Frankly, this is the first time I’ve seen a film about slavery that isn’t about the so-called ‘cast of thousands’ or rather, well-known, established white actors with sparse introductions to ‘new’ black actors. Given that, for the most part, the actors in 12YAS have strong reputations in the business, but not the baggage of iconography that overtook other Civil War era/slavery-themed films.

    • LadySlippers says:

      Pwal, I think when people of European descent bring up any African atrocities to each other is to assuage the guilt they feel over being sh!theads to others not of European descent. You see the same rational used for other minorities (i.e. the Jews). It’s a great way to explain away their cognitive dissidence AND justify their actions. Neat, huh?

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      They always do that, right on schedule. Oh, so slavery is MY fault now? Will you forgive me for it? To say nothing of the fact that the kind of ‘slavery’ practiced in the areas from where people were taken wasn’t anything like what went on in the Americas. The people being kept were a sort of POW camp or debtor’s prison kind of setup. And what were these people supposed to do once they saw the full horrors of the system, inform Kwame about it by contacting him through his iPhone with a text message asking, ‘Iz this ish 4 realz?’

  28. Pip says:

    I love this man and his work!! He is supertalented and such a great screen presence.

  29. Sixer says:

    Also, I wanted to say that he has done a better job of explaining the need for Fassbender’s role to be three dimensional than Fassy has done so far!

    • j.eyre says:

      I agree. I understand Fassbender is treading on very thin ice with his character and to admit to identifying with any part of what I have heard is a monster is going invite mounds of criticism, but I think Mr. Ejilofor does do it justice.

      I know that is a very poorly constructed sentence, I am terribly tired today.

      • LadySlippers says:

        I’d bet that’s a tricky tightrope to walk for Fassbender. I can say, I don’t envy him one bit either!

    • Lucrezia says:

      Yep, agree with everyone. Chiwetel definitely said it better, but Fassy’s in a very awkward position.

      If you re-word what Chiwetel said to be in first-person it doesn’t sounds so great either: “I think Epps is suffering within himself. I wanted him to be a rounded character.”

      So I think a bit of distance from the character helps.

      • j.eyre says:

        Yes, this is exactly my point… except that you actually made a point and I kind of just put a bunch of words together. Thank you.

      • Sixer says:

        I agree Fassy’s in a very awkward position. And it’s seemed clear to me that he’s been trying to explain the actor’s process much more than to defend his character from the indefensible. I’ve stuck up for him once or twice on here. It must be incredibly hard to explain.

        “Solomon, just in his way of being, demands acknowledgment as a human”.

        It was this that caught my eye in what Chiwetel said. I thought it was both direct and elegant and also a real nugget of truth.

      • Lucrezia says:

        “Solomon, just in his way of being, demands acknowledgment as a human” is indeed perfect.

        It was something that intrigued me in the book. Solomon was born free, it makes sense he’d have a different attitude/bearing than if he’d been born a slave. And, as Chiwetel notes, Epps does react to that.

        Yet Solomon managed to keep his kidnapping a secret. He only tells two people the truth: an overseer (who goes straight to Epps and tells him that his slave is trying to escape) and Brad Pitt’s character (who sets in motion the rescue).

        You can see why the various owners would have a vested interest in not seeing the truth that was in front of them, but how did he hide his upbringing from his fellow slaves? (They have absolutely NO idea he was a free man who’d been kidnapped.) Did he make up a false history? Or did he live for 12 years without ever mentioning his past? How’d they miss it?

  30. Ricky says:

    Best british actor of his generation. Hands down.

  31. MonicaQ says:

    But the “urban sites” aren’t paying extra attention like they were with Fruitvale Station and even Quentin Tarantino’s Django Unchained.

    Because everyone knows Jamie Foxx, not so much this guy as intelligent as he is. I was talking to my family and they’re like, “Oh here we go, another “Roots” so white people can feel “bad” about slavery.” (I’m black and southern so my family is quite jaded).

    Those other movies seemed more…I don’t know, intended to provoke controversy rather than thought. The book was hard for me to read, this will be hard for me to watch, but I will not pass up a good movie just because the subject makes me or my husband (who is white) squeamish.

    • LadySlippers says:

      And Americans dislike feeling uneasy. I cannot comment on how other countries/cultures feel about topics like this…. But we’d rather have some emotional distance from anything yucky.

    • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

      And a lot of people are bashing Django Unchained, at least they are on youtube, on the 12YAS trailer pages. Which I don’t understand, because it’s apples and oranges. Django was a much more commercial film, that still dealt with the truths in slavery and slave owners in a much “funnier” way. It was serious, but then it wasn’t. But everything in the film, regarding slavery was true. So I don’t get what’s to complain about.

      12YAS is different. It’s more dramatic and serious—apples and oranges.

      BTW, I still think Leo should’ve been nominated for that movie. Maybe he didn’t want to campaign, but that movie made me a fan. My family actually does have a lot of his films, and I always knew he was a good actor, but that made me sit up and take notice of him.

  32. taylor says:

    He is criminally underrated, I think, so it’s nice he’s getting such positive attention from the media for this role. I hope it does really well commercially, too. That’d be a nice bonus to all the critical acclaim.

  33. bettyrose says:

    I don’t really know anything about this actor or film but I wanted to support the thread with a comment. More than once I’ve learned about an indie film or the novel it was based on thanks to a celeb story on CB.

  34. rudy says:

    The story of Solomon is heart breaking and unbelievably – totally unknown.

    What happened to this man is so so awful but he finally after YEARS gets home. Why did we never learn about Mr. Northup in school?

    I applaud each and every person who contributed to bringing this mans life to the public. This is a story for everyone. Whether or not the movie is good, it doesn’t matter at this point. The very fact that is was made is wonderful.

  35. Sixer says:

    Well, Kaiser! Your acolytes have done good work here, no? (If we pretend we didn’t notice my lapse into boorishness). We can have more Chiwetel posts? Pretty please?

    Signing off this thread with a book recommendation for those who have talked about taking their teens to see 12YAS: The Astonishing Life of Octavian Nothing duology by MT Anderson. Although challenging stylistically and sometimes gruelling, they’re also fantastic reads and saved from being depressing by a streak of satire a la Daniel Defoe.