Mila Kunis: ‘I just don’t want my kids to be a–holes, so many kids nowadays are’

Marie Claire July 2014 - Mila Kunis

Mila Kunis covers the new issue of Marie Claire. She’s promoting her new film, Third Person, but in the interview, she talks mostly about being pregnant, falling in love with Ashton Kutcher and what she wants for her kids. It’s actually a great piece full of interesting quotes – you can read some excerpts here. It just reminds me that Mila is actually a really cool girl and I have no idea what she’s doing with Ashton. At all. Some highlights:

She loves her new pregnancy boobs: “They’re amazing! They’ve tripled in size. I was a 34A; now I’m a 36C. I’m so excited! I’m telling everyone I know, ‘Go ahead, touch them!’ Without being an a–hole, I have to say, I love being pregnant.”

On what she never wants to do: “I’ll never have a clothing line. I promise you, that will never happen.”

On her future children: “I just don’t want my kids to be a–holes. I feel like so many kids nowadays are. Both of us just want to have well-behaved, honest, nice children who people meet and say, ‘That’s a good kid.’

On giving birth: “Two people are allowed in my delivery room. My doctor and my significant other. And he is staying above the action. He’ll be head to head. Not head to vag. Unless he wants to risk his life and see. But I wouldn’t if I were him. I highly doubt he wants to see that being ripped apart and shredded. Because it will be shredded. It’s just a matter of how badly.”

On her friend-turned-fiancé Ashton Kutcher: “One day, it just changed. All of a sudden, it wasn’t the same. And I was really proud of myself for acknowledging that. The best day of my life so far was the proposal. I cried. I was a mess. Not to discredit any relationships in my past, but this relationship is different.”

[From Marie Claire]

There’s a lot to unpack, right? She gives good interview. First of all, she was totally shading all of the B and C-list actresses with their “side projects” and fashion lines. And it was brilliant shade. Secondly, I think she’s genuinely thrilled with her pregnancy boobs. It’s cute! And I’m totally with her about asking Ashton to stay by the head. I know that’s anti-New Age, birth-is-natural, let’s have the father “catch the baby” whatever. Nope. Some women (and I suspect many men) don’t want that. I love this realism: “Because it will be shredded. It’s just a matter of how badly.” *shudder* Just another reason why I never want to be pregnant.

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Photos courtesy of Tesh/Marie Claire.

 

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  1. Tiffany27 says:

    She better hope a**holery isn’t genetic. Dad is carrying the gene.

    • Kaiser says:

      Yes, I didn’t want to say that but for real: genetically speaking, her kid is going to be 50% a–hole.

      • Esmom says:

        Kiddo, didn’t we just debate this and nature won out? Still the 50% that’s Mila is just as likely to be dominant so I wouldn’t write their kids off yet!

      • Kiddo says:

        I don’t know, I don’t actually want to debate it, but it’s there. Just because you have the genetic code for something doesn’t always mean that it will be triggered, and even if you have good parenting, you can be rotten, or you can be good in spite of bad parenting. There: I argued with Me, myself and I, and all decided we would have to agree to disagree, or to agree: see, we can’t even get that together, lol.

      • Esmom says:

        Kiddo, I hear you. There was a great documentary series on PBS a number of years ago called “American High,” set in an affluent suburb of Chicago. The most fascinating aspect to me was seeing how generally the horrible parents seemed to have the “best” kids — polite, high achieving, earnest and engaged. And the “good,” parents, at least those who seemed to care about family and what their kids were doing, had some real a-hole troublemakers.

        You can definitely rise above genetics or succumb to them, it’s such a complicated mix of factors for sure. But I did take a weird comfort in seeing these kids with crappy home lives rise above and do well.

      • FLORC says:

        I thought you said it flat out with the articles title.
        Not literally, but Ashton has a way about him. And Mila for years did not have this way until she got with him.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “Just because you have the genetic code for something doesn’t always mean that it will be triggered,”

        So true. I have an identical twin, and all my life I have thought about our differences that resulted from the root same ingredients.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Two of the most arrogant, obnoxious aholes I know have the loveliest, sweetest daughter who is just very down to earth and likable, so the gene can be overcome. Lol

      • FLORC says:

        Hah!
        GoodNames!
        Now we’re talking Nature Vs. Nurture. Or speaking my language! A topic I could go on at length with!
        Although here is not the forum. And I would be sorely upset if I typed it all out, spell checked and had the moderation reject it. So, in short…
        With these 2 I think it will be nurture. As i’ve said before Mila hasn’t always been this way. She avoided the paps and stayed out of scandals for 9+ years with Culkin. Most people had no idea she was even dating him.
        Now with Ashton the paps are invasive and she hates that they follow her to known locations aka pap stroll.

        Mila became this way because of Ashton’s influence. She’s not an ahole by nature and this baby can be perfectly wonderful despite their parents. *mumble*nori*cough*

    • Mitch Buchanan Rocks! says:

      Coffee on the screen right off the bat with this one :- the screen is not safe.

    • seijidan says:

      yeah that quote amused me considering ASShton is tone of the biggest asshole and douchebag in the industry

      • Sooloo says:

        I’m genuinely curious – why exactly is he seen as such a bad guy? To my knowledge, there’s no history of stumbling drunk out of clubs, drug/alcohol abuse, DWI, etc. Why is the general perception that he sucks? I mean, other than those who simply don’t like his body of work or brand of humor?

      • FLORC says:

        Sooloo

        A book could be written on why Ashton is a jerk… Let’s go to the bullet points.

        *Ashton had a frat boy, entitled, pretentious attitude. The rumors flew.

        *Dates and Marries Demi. Rumors circulate shortly after he might be fooling around on her.

        *Becomes huge on Twitter and pulls stunts to get more followers. Some really embarrassed Demi and he seems to seek loads of gratification from social media.

        *He wants to divorce his wife Demi so he sleeps with randoms over the course of a long time, doesn’t hide it, and hopes she files for divorce 1st out of shame.

        *Backfires. Demi retreats into drugs and depression. Desperately wants Ashton back. Ashton still cheats, still won’t file, and Demi becomes a danger to her own health and safety.

        *Ashton gets with Mila long before divorce got on its way really. Wants quicky divorce.

        Forget how Demi acted mid divorce. The desperate antics and such. Ashton was awful to try and end a marriage by openly embarrassing his wife.

        And his interviews or more recently the People article. With the praise me for not calling my wife fat while she’s pregnant tone. Since it’s People i’m inclined to believe his people want that message out there.

      • Liv says:

        Florc, what a great summery! He’s also one of the celebs who are knee-deep into Twitter but claim that they want and deserve privacy…ugh!

      • ataylor says:

        @sooloo — oh. His assholery goes WAY back. pre-Demi he was a major party boy and actually was arrested and DID go to jail when he was a senior in high school for breaking in after hours and stealing money. In college he was a member of Delta Psi and former frat bros have some Stories. To. Tell.
        Former classmates AND A FORMER TEACHER from his H.S. days tell tales of his assholery. In fact when a news crew went to his hometown to do a “before they were famous” expose they couldnt find one person who spoke kindly of him.

        In fact he told a late night show he played football in h.s. and claimed he was a quarterback and another time a wide receiver – unfortunatly for him his h.s. football coach said otherwise and told interviewers Ashton/Chris never played those positions.

        Plus, the absolute ly crappy way he treated January Jones and Brittney Murphy –as well as more current behavior– pretty much solidifies his assholery.

      • FLORC says:

        Liv
        That is such a double standard. You can’t have it both ways.
        I don’t understand how he can be justified n his argument when he’s not doing his part to keep his life his.

      • FLORC says:

        ataylor
        Completely forgot about Jones and Murphy. That was bad. And his home town antics.
        I wanted to stick to recent stuff, but you’re right. He’s always been this way.

    • RedWeatherTiger says:

      Yep. As soon as I saw the headline, I thought, if she didn’t want a-hole children, she should’ve picked a different father.

      That being said, i have friends whose exes are complete assholes, but their kids are decent, so if Mila perseveres, she should be able to overcome the instant hurdle posed by her questionable choice of father for her baby. At least Ashton has looks and money.

    • mytbean says:

      I’m with you Sooloo – I don’ t fully understand it either. I think it has to do with the hot-tub incident on Demi’s birthday. But I got the impression that Demi and he were over at that point, that he’d tried to make it clear but that she was just in denial and was being one of those clingy, crazy women who won’t accept rejection. He’d moved on. And he didn’t make it some big public thing because I think he still cared for her but had given up on their relationship.

      Anyway – that’ s my take on it so I just don’t think of him as a huge a-hole. I just think of him as relatively private.

      • Shiksa Goddess says:

        I will agree completely with this mytbean.

      • FLORC says:

        To add to my above list, but more specifically to your comment mytbean.

        Demi was very clingy and desperate to make it work. And maybe a part of Ashton didn’t want to hurt Demi, but didn’t know how to tell her no. I can buy that.
        Although, not knowing how to end a relationship the proper way and instead taking the route of public cheating and shaming is very hurtful and immature imo.
        Ashton in no way took the high road and acted like a man.

        And if Ashton really felt she’d never let him go he should have ripped the bandaid off. Better than not filing to spare her feelings or let her believe there’s a chance of reconciliation and false hope when he had moved on.

        We can’t know what was inside her head, but i’m guessing Ashton not ending it when it was over did not help Demi’s emotional/mental/physical stability.

      • Mltpsych says:

        Agree too with mytbean. I always thought Ashton was amazing with Demi’s kids, tried to keep peace with Willis, seemed like things began to go downhill when Demi got older and more insecure. Heard rumors about open relationship and him trying to end things for a long time. Maybe the only way for her to finally get it was to end up in hot tub with a random?

      • FLORC says:

        mltpsych
        Most of that was spin and pr. And cheating openly is never a proper way to end a relationship. That’s making excuses for someone who openly shamed and cheated on their wife.
        And it wasn’t 1 random 1 time. We’re in the double digits on all parts.

        I’d like to know who would ever tell a friend or do this themselves and feel it was justified.

    • TheOriginalPuppy says:

      ” From bratty kids to mass murderers, from egocentric tyrants to adults who can’t find and maintain a satisfying career — a large, rapidly growing sector of our country suffers from the consequences of parents who try to sidestep the hardest part of parenting: introducing our children to a world in which self-discipline, tolerating disappointment, and being able to consider the needs of others before one’s own are essential qualities for survival.”

      Taken from an article called The Psychology of Elliott Rodger.

    • G. says:

      Actually, from what I’ve heard, she has a**holery in spades. Someone I know worked on the set of Jupiter Ascending and the stories he told about her ruined any good feelings I had for her. Ugh. This poor kid.

  2. Alexis says:

    You don’t want your kids to be a-holes? Well, don’t breed with a-holes. Problem solved.

  3. Mel M says:

    Totally agree with her about the a-hole children now. Too many parents want to be the cool/best friend parents and their kids are total a-holes. They don’t want to discipline because it’s hard work.

    • Courtney says:

      As a teacher I tend to agree. There are good parents, but there are a lot of parents who want to give their kids instant gratification- thus turning them into little arses.

      • Esmom says:

        Yes. Last night was a perfect example. My son graduated from 8th grade and the AP had to make the announcement that we please hold all applause to the end because inappropriate hooting and hollering might drown out another kid’s name as it was being read. First of all, so sad that he had to make that announcement. Secondly, of course there were a few a-hole parents/families that stood up, yelled and screamed for their kids and yes drowned out the next kid’s name. Mortifying.

      • Courtney says:

        @Esmom.. good example! It definitely sends the message to their own kids to disrespect other people and then we wonder why that generation has no respect for anyone and to be self-centered!!

      • jaye says:

        Esmom, the same thing happened at my son’s graduation last week. When the school sent home info about the graduation, the request to hold applause to the end was emphasized. The school principal reminded the audience TWICE and there were still a-holes who STILL whooped and hollered when their kids name was called. It really ticked me off.

    • Audrey says:

      This attitude of not wanting your kid to want for anything leaves kids spoiled with no work ethic.

      My sister’s kids refuse to do chores at all. She still says her 4 year old shouldn’t have to cause he’s too young. Um this is why your 0 year old won’t do any

      • Sighs says:

        My kid is 5 and has been doing chores since he was 2. He loves to help. 4 is plenty old enough.

      • Lollipop says:

        Personally, I don’t think kids should do chores until they’re around 8 or 9. I didn’t do them until then, and did them all later. And I turned out okay.

      • Audrey says:

        I don’t think they should have big chores yet. But generally learning to pick up after themselves is fine. My daughter is 14 months old and she helps me clean her toys and puts her clothes in her hamper.

        She’ll get more responsibilities as she gets older

      • Sighs says:

        @audrey- yes. You’re never too young to learn to pick up after yourself. My kid picks up his toys (with help), puts the clean silverware away, folds towels and puts things in the washer/dryer, sets the dinner table and vacuums ( though that one he does because he wants to, I end up doing it over when he’s done). And miraculously he has not been traumatized at all! He knows that it’s just part of being a family and helping each other.

      • Amulla says:

        Is 4 too young to do chores? It depends on the 4 year old. I don’t care what other people do with regard to this in parenting, but several years ago I was a guest in someone’s home, and the mom actually asked me to help her pick up toys and clean up her 9 year old son’s room. I felt it was rude and imposing on me, I would never ask a guest in my home to help clean up. Also, by age 12 this kid was still drinking from those sippee cups that are for toddlers. Bizarre. Oh, and they gave him two birthday parties a year; one was his regular birthday, and the other was his “half” birthday. I often wonder how he will turn out, but I don’t think I will follow up to find out.

    • Irishserra says:

      Yes. Or they’re afraid to say no to their children about anything because they feel like their child is being deprived of something so the children end up being entitled. Seen way too much of that lately. Tell your kid no sometimes, don’t be afraid to be arbitrary and make your kids experience the fruits of hard work. They will grow up to appreciate it, I promise! (Of course, this is all in conjunction with love and attention).

    • Molly says:

      Just returned from helping proctor final exams at a local high school. Can confirm kids are a-holes. I was called a B*tch for not sharpening this girl’s pencil for her and everyone laughed.
      I still didn’t sharpen her pencil though and just sat down and ignored her so then she made a big dramatic deal, sighing loudly and walking slowly to the pencil sharpener and making as much noise as possible before she went back to her seat.

      You could not pay me enough to be a teacher and I’m actually kind of thankful I went to a small catholic high school where nonsense was not tolerated in the least and that girl today would have been kicked out of class with a 0 on her final if she went to my school. .

      • Tiffany27 says:

        WOW!!! That is horrible. How do you think it’s ok to call someone a b*tch for not sharpening your pencil?

      • Sighs says:

        And this is why I couldn’t be a teacher. I would’ve called her a lazy witch and would have been fired.

      • jaye says:

        When my son was in grade school, I remember picking him up from school and there was a parent in another classroom yelling at the teacher who sent a note home about her son being disruptive in class. She was making excuses and blaming the teacher for her son’s bad behavior. I know all this because the mother was screaming to the top of her lungs. I don’t usually like to make assumptions about a child’s future, but if a parent continuously makes excuses for that child’s bad behavior, I don’t see them doing anything positive with their lives. I don’t think kids are born a-holes. Kids are pretty much blank slates when they’re born. What you give THEM is what THEY give to the world, mostly. Garbage in, garbage out.

    • pnichols says:

      werd. Kids seem very disrespectful now.

    • GByeGirl says:

      Kids have always been a-holes. If you’re a Bible reader, then you may be familiar with the kids who bullied and teased God’s bald friend. God got pissed off and sent bears to devour them. There’s a great “kids today” type journal from the 1600s lamenting that generations teenagers as lazy, bratty, shiftless.

      I think that with 24 hour news cycles and social media, we are just so much more aware of the douchery of children. Kids can be jerks with stern or with “friendly” parents. We like to white-wash our pasts and pretend that we were never like that. I personally wasn’t a bully, but I was relentlessly evil against kids who were rumored to be bullies. I never took the time to wonder why they behaved that way, or looked into perhaps who was bullying them.

      People simply didn’t share as many of the horrible stories back then. Also, certain things were easier to get away with. A majority of crime is committed by young men (juvenile delinquents). Crime, in general, is on the decline.

  4. Kiddo says:

    She’s likable and comes off as ‘real’.

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah I really liked everything she had to say here. She seems to have her head on straight and thank goodness she recognizes how horrible kids can be without the right modeling/guidance. It’s a good first step onto the parenting roller coaster!

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Yeah I dig her!
      She is the opposite of annoying-a rarity among today’s celebs.

      On another note, did anyone see the clip of her firmly telling a pap to back off? She handled it really well than was accused (by that moron Billy Bush) or being “hormonal” because of her pregnancy. It made me so rage-y, especially because she handled it like a pro-she was very firm and in control, but not rude or nasty.
      So is Alec Baldwin pregnant then?

    • Kimbob says:

      Very much so! I really like it when I read or hear a celebrity being interviewed, & you can tell they’re not just going for the sound bite….you know, just trying to stay “safe” & not step on any toes, or God forbid say something offensive. It’s easy to distinguish the posers.

      I just like people who are refreshingly honest and unfiltered. And yeah, Mila usually does give a good interview because she is so off-the-cuff. So refreshing in this day & age of political correctness.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I like her. She comes across as pretty chill to me.

    • Nicolette says:

      Very much so. She’s completely right about kids today, God that makes me sound old. A lot of them have no respect for their elders, let alone each other, they think they know everything and the trash that comes out of their mouths at such young ages is stunning. Let’s not forget the entitlement issue as well. Giving everyone a trophy or an award in order to not have hurt feelings (please) just makes kids not strive for anything. They have no sense of accomplishment if everyone is the same, and it just teaches them to expect a reward for any little thing they do.

      • word says:

        You are so right. Kids now a days can’t handle criticism. They get praised way too often. They won’t be ready for the real world when their boss get pissed they didn’t do their job correctly. Actually forget the working world, I don’t think most of these kids will be able to handle university/college. Professors aren’t going to be “Ok everyone gets an A because you all tried and that’s all that matters”. Come on.

      • Esmom says:

        Eh, I don’t know if this “give all kids an award just for participating” is real. It sure hasn’t been true for my kids, they have experienced wins and losses, recognition and being overlooked, the whole range, happiness and disappointment — and definitely understand they have to work to be the best at something.

        But some kids do still have crappy, disrespectful attitudes, that’s for sure. I still think it goes back to the individual parents, and society at large isn’t the culprit.

      • Nicolette says:

        @Esmom, trust me it’s real. My husband is a hockey coach, and coached Little League a few years ago. Trophies go to ALL the players just for participating. He feels, and I agree, it should be the way it used to be that the actual ‘most improved’ ‘mvp’ etc. should be the ones to get one. They should have to earn it. And to make matters worse, in Little League there were no winners or losers in any game. What’s the point then really? This morning we went to school for the Honor Roll ceremony, and by the time they were done giving awards for just about everything all the kids had either a certificate in their hands or a medal around their neck.

      • Esmom says:

        Nicolette, Hmm, wow, definitely different from what we’ve experienced. You bring up Little League — we most definitely have winners and losers in all games and that can be a problem in that some coaches emphasize that winning is everything and then the kids turn into uber competitive little monsters who don’t get that there’s no shame in losing as long as you tried your best. So I guess there’s no right/easy way to do things.

      • GByeGirl says:

        Well, whose fault is it that kids get participation trophies? Did kids come up with this?

        Again, I think we are more aware of kids being jerks. This generation hardly invented it. Our grandparents, the so-called “greatest generation” did some evil stuff, too. It just wasn’t talked about as much.

  5. word says:

    I’ve come across some really horrible kids but I have also come across some really great ones. I do think kids now a days act really entitled and tend to be very into themselves. My niece is only 7 and her parents let her wear make-up to school. I couldn’t believe it. She also has her own ipad or whatever and takes selfies of herself and her friends.

    • Anname says:

      My 8 yr old has an ipad because she is forced to travel to and sit through her 2 older siblings’ billion lacrosse and soccer games. It’s as much for me as it is for her.

      • word says:

        That reason makes sense. It is a way to keep kids busy. I just don’t like how my niece does the “duck face” and makes crazy poses while taking selfies with her ipad. I’m not her parent so I can’t say anything but I find it disturbing.

      • Candy Love says:

        I agree your reason makes sense.

        One the ladies I work with brought her 1 year old an his own Ipad and all I think is what the F*ck does a 1 year need with his own Ipad.

      • Anname says:

        Yes, I get some of that because she is emulating her older sister, unfortunately, like asking me for an Instagram acct… crazy.

        When I can’t take another minute of Mad libs in the car, I can live with a few selfies. She usually ends up putting through those photo distortions and cracking herself up, so innocent enough.

      • Nicolette says:

        All their ipads, ipods etc. does become a way to keep them occupied, and I’m guilty as charged. My son is ADD/Aspergers, and it became the only way we could get through an outing, being at a restaurant, or a friends house. We also used it as a carrot to dangle to get him to behave, as part of behavioral therapy. But he is so engrossed in technology that it’s become a fight at times. We constantly tell him he has to have balance, it can’t all be about that. Every parent we know complains that all their kids want to do is mess around with their gadgets. We used to be outside playing all day til our Mom’s called us in for dinner, then in the summer you would be allowed to go back outside until the sun was going down. We came home dirty, sweaty, skinned knees, and with sprained ankles many times. But we were exhausted and after bathing would just fall into bed to do the same the next day all over again. Giving our parents a hard time about going to bed never happened because we were too tired to argue. Tell the kids today about those times and they look at you like you have three heads.

  6. Jac says:

    My husband had orders to stay up at my head, some things cannot be unseen…

    • Audrey says:

      I tried that but he looked. 14 months later and he still hasn’t recovered lol. He still mentions the gush of blood

    • Esmom says:

      My husband had no desire to be anywhere but at my head! The nurses tried to encourage him to move down a couple times but he casually kept drifting further away the more they encouraged, lol. That was fine with me.

    • Molly says:

      I don’t want my husband in the room. I want him sitting outside drinking a beer/having a cigar with his brother and my dad while my mom helps me deal with the glory of childbirth.

      some things cannot be unseen, unsmelled, un anythinged and he can come in when everything is tidy and pretty waiting for him.

      thats just how i feel now though. who knows, I dont have kids yet so it could change lol

      • Rb says:

        Mine stayed above the head, with only one quick peek after encouragement from the obstetrician. I was firm with him before going in and forbade him from hanging down below.

        As for the shredding…perhaps i was lucky but I say this to reassure those who live in fear with anticipation – there was no shredding. Major swelling afterwards but after a few days it goes down. A few months later and things were all back to normal. Now 15 months on and none of the problems you hear about after birth have presented. Don’t believe all the horror stories ladies.

      • chaser says:

        I get what you are saying Rb but I do think its good for women to be educated on the likely impacts (some which can be long term) which follow vaginal delivery. I believe that if I knew my injuries were pretty ‘normal’ albeit on the severe end I probably would have dealt with the trauma of it all much quicker.

        The difference is education vs fear mongering.

        Mila (as much as I like her) is playing right into the fear/horror territory and it helps no one.

      • Ange says:

        LOL I’d feel exactly the same! He doesn’t need to watch his favourite pub burn down, to borrow a phrase.

    • Stef Leppard says:

      Mine did too! But…it was sort of hard to enforce. He held a leg. Ugh.

    • LAIrisha says:

      Sorry, but this attitude really puts women back in the 1800s… do you really think men are delicate snowflakes who can’t take the stress of childbirth?? We are not hippy dippy by any means, but most of my friends’ husbands and mine included were in the room and watched their child come out. Front row seats (usually holding a leg and helping the nurses). All, without exception, said it was a beautiful experience and they wouldn’t have missed it for the world. It’s HIS child being born. It’s truly a miracle. Sure, there’s blood and pain, but it’s not disgusting or weird, it’s the most amazing thing that will happen to you as a couple. For the record, all of our friends, including us, now have child #2, all within 3 years of the first one, so I can tell you for sure that watching didn’t scare anyone off from sex. (also, unless you have internal or external tears, which get mended, nothing gets “shredded” usually, so I’m not sure where she’s getting this from). Seriously, ladies, give your men more credit. They will surprise you.

      • GByeGirl says:

        I agree. I think that it’s important for dads to know the nitty gritty of childbirth. Partners need to see us at our worst (in looks?) and best (how strong and powerful we are to go through it.)

        Seriously, are we to be delicate flowers on pedestals? We’re humans. It’s great to show some effort in our appearances, but we shouldn’t maintain this false fantasy that we only have hair on our heads, never smell bad, don’t have morning breath, never poop, fart, burp, have to look pretty while squeezing out a baby.

        I mean, did we marry our best friends, or did we marry our first dates?

      • Esmom says:

        I don’t disagree. I know plenty of dads who’ve participated in childbirth in a very hands on way. My husband happens to be very squeamish, and I wasn’t going to spend tons of time trying to convince him otherwise or get upset about it. And I don’t think he feels any less connected to our kids because he stayed closer to my head as they were born.

  7. Shauna says:

    I love her and Ashton. It seems like a true love situation. My husband looked down there during my first kid and still talks about it 20 years later. Good move, Mila.

  8. BendyWindy says:

    Sorry, Mila. Being by the head is no guarantee that you can’t see. Ha.

  9. Penelope says:

    I’ve always liked her–she seems very down-to-earth.

  10. AryaMartell says:

    Mila lost points with me when she hooked up with Ashton. To me, you are with a dbag that means you are a dbag. I just think she’s hidden it well. But I do agree about kids I see it so much these days at school I go to and work for. I’m getting my Ph.D and I’ve been at the school I go to for 10 years now. The demographics have changed and so many kids ARE a-holes now. I want to smack some of these entitled bastards who I’ve been TAing for get angry and EXPECT me to just give them an A. Nope. I’ll happily explain why they didn’t get an A and what they can do to improve but I am not giving an A just because they said so.

  11. Abbott says:

    That’s…. a lot of personal information there. Nothing wrong with that, but can she really demand privacy when she’s telling magazines about her birthing plan and shredded vagina?

    • HappyMom says:

      This is what bugs me. You want privacy then don’t discuss the MOST private things and then complain about intrusion.

    • Sooloo says:

      I thought the exact same. Just this morning when I logged in to check out headline news, this quote was one of the headlines featured under the “celeb gossip” section – “Mila Kunis Doesn’t Want Ashton Kutcher to See Her Vagina When She Gives Birth: “It Will Be Shredded!”". Just so classless and tacky to discuss such a thing in a public forum and really, why does anyone need to know this? Not that there’s anything wrong with giving birth, but geez, have some sense of decorum. I really miss the days when every little fart or smear of discharge didn’t have to be shared with the world, especially by those who pull a 180 and complain about lack of privacy.

  12. Allie says:

    She’s totally my woman crush. She’s gorgeous and seems so normal. I know that she ended up with a d bag but I still love that she rejected Justin Timberlake bahaha

  13. Scarlet Vixen says:

    I totally feel her on the having your significant other not see your vag during delivery. I was adament during all of my deliveries that my hubs stayed next to me. I had a fear that if he saw a ginormous baby come out it would ruin the sexy aspect forever. LoL That and my total phobia about pooping during delivery–I had so many nightmares about that!

    I work in a large public library, so I see hundreds of kids and parents everyday (and have 3 of my own). It really is up to the parents to not raise a*sholes. Yes, their little personalities are definitely their own, but it is our responsibility to teach them to behave, be considerate, etc. I’m always amazed by how many parents either just don’t care or are just too damn lazy to actually PARENT their own children. So if you don’t want a*sholes Mila, do your job.

    • Amanduh says:

      Your whole first paragraph… I could have written it!!! lol After they placed my baby on my chest, one of the first things I asked was, “Did I poop??!” lol
      I didn’t want hubby to see either, but to my surprise, he had to hold my legs during contractions!!! I didn’t know that was part of it, but at the time I thought, “eff it…”. He saw it all and we were back to getting it on not 6 weeks later. It doesn’t gross all men out!

      • anon says:

        I didn’t think my husband would want to see down there. We never discussed it ahead of time, but when the time came and my daughter’s head was coming out he was watching in awe. This might be TMI but he said when her head popped out she looked around and licked her lips. He and the midwives were laughing. I’m glad one of us got to see that, he was not disgusted and still wants to have sex with me.

    • bloopuy says:

      I know a married man who watched, he had a hard time having sex with his wife for a long time after that, it disturbed him greatly. he had a hard time seeing her as a sexual partner instead of a mother. Sad but true.

      • Tillie says:

        I think this is an urban legend.

        Or a hacky sitcom joke (“I can’t UNsee it!”)

        I’m sure some men do take time to come to terms with the fact that their sex partner is now also a mother, but I don’t think it’s literally because they saw a baby coming out of her vagina. It’s more likely a general adjustment to the fact that the husband can’t be tended to like a child when there’s an actual child involved.

        Anyway, this is just something that annoys me. I’ve never heard a real live man (including the father of my kids) express regret that he saw the moment his child came into the world.

      • chaser says:

        My husband watched, and the birth wasn’t great at all. He is scarred by it and doesn’t like to talk about it. But he still wants me and all my parts as much as before.

        That’s not a birth issue, it a dickhead husband issue. Anyway, I’m assuming it’s a friend of a friend of a friend?

      • Truth says:

        Tillie this is not a myth. This happened to my cousin. He began cheating and eventually divorced. Stopped sleeping with her after he saw baby being born. He even told her straight up. Italian pig.

  14. Candy Love says:

    Funny how she shading celebrity fashion lines when Ashton had a clothing line called Pickwick & Weller, that closed last week after 1 year in business.

  15. Sabrine says:

    I hope her child inherits her beautiful and stunning eyes. I think the odds are pretty good. Ashton is not a douche nor an a-hole. He survived six years of marriage to Demi Moore. The guy deserves a medal. He’s very attentive and loving to Mila and I think he will be a great dad.

    • Petee says:

      I agree.I don’t know why everyone on here dislikes him.He put up with Demi who was doing drugs with her daughter.Oh I forgot about the other woman thing.Well not excusing that action but maybe Demi got to be too much for him.I also think there marriage was pretty much over at that point.I don’t see him being like this with Mila at all.I think he truly loves her.

      • Jayna says:

        Their marriage was open for threesomes. She did drugs. He began crossing the blurred lines by the end of his marriage from agreed upon threesomes to his own extracurricular activities but the marriage was done.. He just didn’t know how to extricate himself from her and the marriage. This was a flawed marriage for a while and he made mistakes but it doesn’t mean he’s a douche for the rest of his life. I never get the hate on here by people to certain celebs. Her own kids were estranged from her for a period and some still seem to be. Demi has issues.

    • eliza says:

      THANK YOU! I am not sure why everyone loves to hate this guy. I am not a fan nor do I follow his every move but from the stuff I have paid attention to, I have never seen or heard him do or say anything horrible that would inspire such dislike of him.

      So he cheated. Odd how some A list men are excused for it but other lesser male celebs are not, plus I think he really tried with Moore but like Bruce Willis before him, grew tired of her high maintenance lunacy. Even her own children were giving her a wide berth for a long while. Sure, he shouldn’t have cheated and simply left her but he did what he did and has moved on.

      I wish them both the best in their life together and for the new life they are bringing into the world.

  16. Diane says:

    Then may I suggest you ditch the daddy? He is not the best role model when it comes to being an “a-hole.”

  17. Wren33 says:

    My husband was supposed to stay at my head, but the doctor made him grab a leg and he ended up getting sprayed with blood. 4 years later, I’m not sure he has recovered. He also witnessed me pooping on the table. For the second he dove in there. I mean, if he is still willing to have sex with me after the first, he might as well be helpful.

  18. mkyarwood says:

    It’s impossible not to see the vagina being shredded. At go time, EVERYTHING IS OUT THERE. As for the kids not being assholes, that’s 100% up to the parents.

  19. Lara K says:

    Good for her. Maybe Ashton has calmed down with her, she’s so nice and normal.
    I really wish more celebs were this honest and forthright – I’m getting sick of all the posturing bullsh*t.

  20. Tig says:

    I just saw her segment from the other night- Quit saying we’re pregnant- I was howling- it was too funny! And just bec she wouldn’t do a clothing line I don’t read as shading anyone else for doing differently. And half the battle of raising your kids to be well mannered respectful individuals is wanting to do it and seeing it through.

  21. Rhiley says:

    I love Mila Kunis but hate that she is with Ashton Kutcher. I hate it because he seems anything but genuine to me. I am sure he cares about Mila, but I seriously doubt he is in love with her. I know, I am very negative today. I just think he is using her. I think he realized his acting career is pretty much over, and while he does have plenty of money, and may still have a great career in start ups and production, who cares. He needs to be in the spotlight which is why he latches onto other actresses. I also think that Mila is really going to be the one to financially support this child. I think Ashton has a hard time letting go of his money.

    • Jayna says:

      I like Ashton. Demi was a piece of work, and it should have ended sooner. Neither one were fit spouses by the end. People don’t have to be put in boxes for the rest of their life. He was a good stepfather to three children when he was very young,

      He had not sought out publicity with this relationship all while dating these last two years. He has kept this relationship quiet and private and is off twitter. He showed respect to Demi by not rubbing her face in his being in love.

      • ataylor says:

        What do you mean he hasnt sought publicity with this relationship. Ive seen more of ashton and mila within the past two years than the whole time he was with Demi. At least with Demi they kept things on the red carpet. With Mila it’s practically a daily pap stroll.

    • Jen says:

      Nope. They are totally in love with each other. They’ve been pining for each other since their Jackie and Kelso days. Her days as an actress are also pretty much numbered, she went nowhere after Black Swan/Friends with Benefits/Ted. Ashton is a giant douche, but he invests his money in everything, so he’ll be the one providing.

    • eliza says:

      Not trying to attack you but your point about him not wanting to support his own flesh and blood is rather absurd and unfair. Maybe wait and see.

  22. Lisa says:

    She’s right. I also think part of the problem comes from TV, where all the kids are precocious in an unfunny way. It used to be that you’d have one or two smart ass kids on a show, but they were never *unlikable.* Now it’s hard to find anyone to like, because they’re all actually terrible and offensive.

  23. Natasha says:

    I like her! Don’t have much love for Ashton, but that’s her choice. Being 28 weeks pregs, I just said AMEN to all her comments. Especially head to head not head to vag…bahahahahaha… brilliant and I totally agree!

  24. Mitch Buchanan Rocks! says:

    I wonder if Ashton is still in contact with Demi’s kids – he did seem to be a stable influence in their lives at a time when Demi was having what appeared to be a mid-life crisis. And if they are having a girl.

  25. Regarded says:

    I think the worst habit to instill into kids is that there is always a reward for doing something.
    Case in point: my aunt used to bribe her kids when they were a lot younger to do things like chores, homework, even religious fasting at the age of 5.
    Now they don’t do anything if there isn’t an incentive. A request to clean the bathroom or rake the yard is met with “how much money will I get for it?” or “what toy will you buy me if I do?”
    The sad thing is that it’s been going on for years, so I doubt it’s reversible at this point.

    • mkay says:

      You’d be surprised how many parents do this ! It’s wrong and these kids will suffer as adults when they realize you don’t always get rewarded for doing something.

    • Wow, really? When I was a kid, we had to keep the upstairs clean (still do)–basically our rooms, the bathroom, and the playroom. We didn’t get paid to do it, never had an allowance or anything like that. I hadn’t ever heard of an allowance until I went into fourth or fifth grade. If we ever wanted something ‘extra’–like a toy, etc–then we would have to do extra chores to get it–basically wash the dishes after dinner for a week or two, depending on what we wanted. I used to collect Barbie Dolls (Princesses of the World), so that’s what my mom would buy me.

      I think it’s good to do stuff like that–no allowances for kids. But have them work for what they get. And even if they don’t want you to buy them anything–we all live in the same house. If you see something that’s dirty, not put away, etc–pick it up.

  26. Jen says:

    With Ashton as their father her kids are genetically predisposed to being giant assholes.

  27. maria says:

    Yesterday I learned that you might shred around your clit. Yes ladies. I happened to a friend of mine. Is nothing sacred when it comes to childbirth!?

  28. Altariel says:

    Wow!! Good for them. My hubby stayed above the action too! He didn’t even want to peek over the curtain during a c-section. I asked, “aren’t you curious?” He said, nope, and he felt he should be supporting me bc I was getting the worst of it and baby was fine. One of his finer moments, lol (that or he REALLY didn’t want to get grossed out! LOL)

  29. Sarah says:

    Shredded? I’ve had 2 kids and I don’t know what she’s talking about.

    That whole interview was TMI Jessica Simpson-esque to me. But anything to get attention, I guess.

  30. amara says:

    I don’t get why everybody thinks Ashton is an asshole…I mean I am not a fan or anything, but I just don’t see where this is all coming from. If they are both happy in their relationship, then good for them and good luck with the new addition.

    With that being said, my husband was in the delivery room, but all the way in a corner sitting in a chair turned away from it all. Haha! He did not want to see anything, and I don’t blame him. It’s whatever he’s comfortable with!

  31. melanie says:

    Shes not as tonedeaf as Olivia Wilde but that last line was still a pretty big shot at Mack. Shes litteraly only had one other relationship.

  32. Naddie says:

    That’s a great mission, work hard on it. Most parents are too lazy or cocky, and see what we got now.

  33. Kelly says:

    I look at her as B list so she really shouldn’t be shading anyone.

  34. HappyMom says:

    4 kids here-3 delivered without meds-and there was no fricking way I wanted to see it. I refused the mirror. And when the midwife asked me to put my hands down and pull out the baby I said “no thanks, I’ll pass on that.”

  35. Meg says:

    i’m sorry but when i hear that she doesn’t want him to see-my initial reaction is to think they don’t have a strong bond because my gut feeling is she’s concerned he won’t be attracted to her after that.
    I’m sorry but if i’m giving birth to your baby and we’re in a relationship i’m hoping i’m close enough to you that you’re in this with me, 100%-”yeah, see how ‘shredded’ it is down there? i’m doing that for us-to make us parents like we wanted. And before this, I was pregnant for 9 months, throwing up, my bladder was the size of a penny-you better be grateful.”

  36. Helvetica says:

    Childbirth scares me. Really bad. I have never had children and when I read these stories about vaginas being shredded and pooping during labor and just well, everything, it only confirms for me that I am terrified of the entire birthing process. It started in high school when I watched a birthing video in sex ed. I’m thirty-three now and my terror has not gone away. My hat’s off to the ladies who have been through this. It had zero appeal to me.

  37. A.Key says:

    Newsflash, children are people. Some are great, some are a**holes. Ain’t nothing you can do about that. Try as you like to control them, they’re individual human beings with their own brains and wills. Why do parents have such a hard time in coming to terms with this?
    The kid isn’t a tabula rasa doll for you to shape and mold. You get to guide them through life, not create who they are.

    • Santolina says:

      I agree. Maybe my parents’ generation still had vestiges of the old world view that children were these lumps of clay that you molded in your own image. The nature vs. nurture debate had evolved by the time I had my family. I’ve observed that babies are very much their own people from birth. They have their own individual temperaments and personalities. I believe that, as parents, we can be there to help instill good values and provide love, guidance and support.

    • genevieve says:

      Children are people with their own personalities, sure, but they can be taught limits on their behaviour. They can be taught self-control, and a sense of right and wrong. Or they can be taught that they’re special snowflakes, so that they have huge anxiety and can’t take any kind of disappointment (or even the prospect of it). There’s a lot that parents do – for good or ill – to shape the way their children interact with and respond to the world.

      We’ve got a HUGE epidemic of young people cutting and binge-drinking and otherwise harming themselves. Nothing like this (in terms of numbers) has been seen before. Is this just a fluke of how they were born? I don’t think so.

    • genevieve says:

      Just a little anecdote to expand -

      The other day, I was waiting at a car dealership for my car to be finished getting its maintenance. There was a little boy, about 3, with his dad. The kid was throwing magazines around, and dragging and banging the rack that had held them.

      Dad eventually picked up the magazines and put them on a table. But he let the kid continue crashing around with that rack.

      How hard would it have been to say, “Honey, those don’t belong to us. We’re visitors here. So we have to make sure that we take care of these things that aren’t ours. Then other people can enjoy them. You can look at them, but you have to be nice. If you can’t be nice, you have to sit here with Daddy.”

      Even very little children can learn to respect others (as I know from experience). Approaching child-rearing with a “Whatever – they’ll be whatever they’re going to be” is doing them a disservice (not to mention every poor soul who has to deal with them later).