This is just a little something for the Cumberbitches, although this news is three days old and many of you have already discussed it at length. I guess I just wanted to talk about Benedict Cumberbatch because I’m wondering what his Independence Day is going to be like up there in Boston. I bet it will be sort of fantastic. An Englishman’s view of American Independence might be a bit bittersweet, but the Boston Pops played last night (ten bucks says that Benedict was there) and because of the hurricane, I guess Boston is going to push back the fireworks until Saturday. Still, Independence Day in the heart of the revolution? Boston was Ground Zero for the American mutiny. And Cumby will be there. I would give anything to see him take the walking tour of Boston’s revolutionary sites.
Anyway, the news… the BBC formally announced what many of us already assumed. Sherlock Season 4 will return with a Christmas special… for Christmas 2015. And then there will be a standard three-episode season following the Christmas special. Meaning Season 4 will be in 2016. Sounds about right.
"Miss me?" #Sherlock, the hit @BBCOne drama, will return for a Special, followed by a series of three new episodes. #221back
— BBC One (@BBCOne) July 2, 2014
After the briefest of exiles, #Sherlock will return to face one of his biggest mysteries yet… #221back
— BBC One (@BBCOne) July 2, 2014
…why is Moriarty’s face being broadcast on every television in the land? #Sherlock #221back pic.twitter.com/q39RHTrmB0
— BBC One (@BBCOne) July 2, 2014
Shooting on the #Sherlock special will begin in January 2015, with the series shooting later next year. #221back
— BBC One (@BBCOne) July 2, 2014
I don’t really understand why the Sherlock-loonies are all in a tizzy about this. We’re not going to see any new Sherlock for literally a year and a half. And even then, Steven Moffat is probably just going to f—k with us. I guess I was one of the few that didn’t hate Season 3 – I enjoyed the first two episodes a lot, but I thought Episode 3 was sort of sloppy in the middle and end. I don’t mind the “return” of Moriarty but I just hope that they don’t drag it out for all of Season 4. Anyway, I don’t even know why we’re even talking about it now. We have eighteen months to discuss it.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
An amazing show well worth the wait.
Right? I choose to look at as we have ONLY 18 more months to talk about it!
“Miss me?” – errm, no, actually, I didn’t
I didn’t enjoy season 3 very much, so I’m not bothered about having to wait for season 4.
Ummm we’re talking about it because you’ve bought into the BBC marketing plan and have written a post about it. The Beeb thanks you for service 😉
I will point out though that the BBC said nothing about a “Christmas” special, given it’s shooting in Jan it could air sooner than that.
I think the Christmas special comes from Martin Freeman who let the cat out of the bag.
WHAT?! I can’t wait that long:(
Honestly? By the time they air season 4 I will already have forgotten all about it… It’s outrageous having to wait 2 years in between seeason…
Who cares, I probably won’t be watching it… BBC is fooling with people…
It has always been two years between each season and the Special is an extra bonus. I just enjoy the fact that we are getting another season and it is not as if I sit around waiting, I just get on with my life and watch and enjoy when it airs.
It is either wait that long or nothing at all as both Benedict and Martin are very busy as are the writers. I love that all involved want to continue doing the show because they simply love doing it.
I loved season 3, funny, touching and dramatic.
It’s a tv series, it’s the only one that just airs every 2 years… Just loosing interest, that’s all…
•NightShade•
It doesn’t bother me that we have to wait 2 years in between seasons. What bothers me is that season 3 was such a huge let down. If season 4 is like season 3, I’ll be jumping off the Sherlock fan wagon and finding something else to get excited about.
We Ladies of the Garden might have to find some new entertainment… Any suggestions?
@LadySlippers, my dear… Right now no suggestions, but I’ll keep an eye searching for something interesting…
And yes, season 3 stopped being sherlock.. Sherlock isn’t nice, warm, caring… He’s cold, maybe has Asperger’s…who knows…
I’ll be falling off the wagon too, right now only one leg in it, one leg out…
•Nighty•
I don’t buy that Sherlock has Asperger’s or is on the spectrum at all. He also isn’t a psychopath (hate that the show and the actors don’t seem to get how incorrect they are when they use the terms).
However, I do buy that Sherlock and Mycroft are emotionally constipated geniuses with god complexes. (Hang out with a few geniuses and you’ll see they are a dime a dozen).
I hope the writing and the directing go back up to season 1 & 2 standards.
Perhaps •Squirrel• will come around and make us laugh….
We need to create our own production company (I suggest we call it either “GardenOfThornfield Productions” or “TomAndBenOnly” Productions”. Then we make the following shows/movies:
Sherlock Seasons 4-9, including 60 Xmas specials (one for each day of the 12 days of Christmas per season)
Wallender seasons 4-9 (will retitle it “Magnus” and write all the other actors out of the show)
Only Lovers Left Alive 2 – The night everyone but Adam dies (costarring Sean Bean)…
Only Lovers Left Alive 3 – The prequel (because Hollywood loves to make the prequels after the rest of the series and add stupid actors to make the characters look younger)
Crimson Peak -The TV series. Every episode ends with a cliffhanger that fans can vote for the outcome (which we will then totally ignore and end it the way we want anyway!)
Its Good To Be Bad – The story of 3 baddies competing against each other for the rights to run the evil empire when their mentor dies. Jags boots and Tahitian liaisons will be the heart of the story!
@Ladyslippers … SecretSquirrel has shown up and wonderfully delivered her outstanding good humour and marvellous ideas, as usual … 😀
Hi Secret. how are you sweety?? Did you enjoy that marvellous point scored against Nadal?? Talk about hitting between the legs … 😉
My my.. Nick Kyrgios was quite surprising, hum!!
*makes naughty smile… *
@Secret Squirrel, on Wallender, can I take over the data search duties so Magnus can focus on answering the phone? He does that so very well.
Will the OLLA prequel tell the story of how Adam was turned or will it reveal what Ava did in Paris 85 years ago?
Its Good to be Bad – hurray! More Mark Strong!
Secret Squirrel!! LOL Perfect! 😀
I’m totally on board for these productions!! They all sound marvellous! My only request: OLLA 2 – the zombies (including Sean Bean) can die, but Eve? And Ava? No way. Everything else is perfect! (also Lilacflowers additions about the OLLA prequel). So… when does the writing process start? 😉
@Squirrel, we need to get all of these on kickstarter now. I’ll do the catering – endless packets of hobnobs and coffee, with a little *cough* whiskey for after a hard day shooting.
I’ll also offer Tom coaching classes in sighing and rolling his eyes for Magnus, as it’s been a while and he might be a tad rusty.
•ladies•
Why don’t we create our own series called Glorious (Ginger) Curls? And we can write skits so that it highlights Benny and Tommy’s fantastic curls? And acting too…. (They’ll probably insist it has some artistic merit to it *rolls eyes*)
We can even throw in some Shakespeare or something to satiate their Shakespeare urges.
But Wallander was good fun. I think the other actors/actresses can live but Kenneth needs to greatly expand Magnus’ role…by a lot. Maybe Magnus and Sherlock can become ‘friends’. Or enemies. Makes no difference to me.
They can be frenemies (sorry) and have a tempestuous love/hate relationship a la Dick and Liz, with lots of curl tossing and mussing, pouting, eye rolling and long, lingering glances at each other, whilst destroying or saving the world/universe etc. And answering the telephone. And doing reaseach. All dialogue in iambic pentameter. Doesn’t necessarily have to be Shakespeare per se.
Costumes: long coats with the collars always turned up. And hats of all descriptions.
@LadySlippers, if Magnus answered the phone AND searched a database in the same episode, it would be a tremendous expansion of that role. But he was incredibly fast with those data searches, especially on those antiquated computers – and they were antiquated even by 2008 standards.
@Secret Squirrel Can we add High Rise two and three.
In High Rise 2 Laing moves to the next block of flats which is an all female block apart from Laing, a professor of criminology played by Benny, Idris as an all knowing psychologist and Chiwetel Ejiofor as a sax player.
The occupants wild also include a group of a group of transvestites played by Sean Bean, Mark Strong, Fassy and Harry Lloyd. player.
Extra’s can apply to Secret Squirrel@gmail
•Make Mine a Double•
Frenemies *and* iambic pentameter? Genius!
And let’s mix up the costumes and settings. Just to amuse ourselves. They can have period costumes in the modern world and vice versa. Every 5th one should feature them nude or nearly nude. So they both need to get buff again. *very buff*
And since I don’t want to slave away writing, we can have them act out famous buddy skits. Laverne and Shirley will be the first they do. The question is — which will get which part? Hmmmmm I guess we’ll have to see both.
•Lilac•
True. Very true.
But Magnus wasn’t a very good role though. If it wasn’t for the Ginger Curls I’d have not noticed him at all. Well, Ginger Curls and Magnificent Fingers… (The important things)
That first episode in season 3 just let everyone know that the producers trolled Tumblr & other fan sites. It was annoying. I hope they stick to their writers & not turn to the internet again.
“Its Good To Be Bad – The story of 3 baddies competing against each other for the rights to run the evil empire when their mentor dies. Jags boots and Tahitian liaisons will be the heart of the story! “-This sounds fantastic.
@icerose, I seriously would pay good money to see Mark Strong and Sean Bean play transvestites. And Harry Lloyd, so yummy! However, there is someone sadly missing from High-Rise 2. Jeremy Irons’s Royal character was only one of a partnership of architects who designed the High-Rise complex – the only one we meet in the novel. We need to meet another architect, playing Royal’s architect partner and brother, just as they played brothers in the Die Hard films – Alan Richman as Andrew Royal.
I’m gonna need to read High Rise as I don’t know what you’re referencing *sigh*… •icerose• you have some interesting suggestions…. as does •lilac•.
Can we add Colin Firth to the mix somehow? I feel we need to expand our yummy men…and include James McAvoy. Definitely need me some Scottish Thunder. Need more Scots and more Irish boys. Anyone object?
•M.A.F.•
Trolling tumblr and incorporating it in your writing is only funny for about 15 minutes, then it gets repetitious and stupid. Moffatt should know better.
*throwing my money at you all* Make that happen!
And I want Eva Green in High Rise 2!
Can they please do the Morcombe and Wise breakfast sketch too. You know the one done to the stripper theme. I want to see Benny cutting grapefruit whilst tossing those curls, and Tom slam dunking eggs into a bowl.
@LadySlippers, totally agree about the costumes and near nakkidness. Bring it on.
@Isadora and Lilacflowers – High Rise 2. Loving the plot. One question tho: are there enough dogs left?
@Isadora, she would actually be a good Eleanor, the crazy cat lady in the film but I’m sure we can find something for her in High Rise 2.
@Lilacflowers the great thing about High Rise is we can just keep filling the building up and as people disappear replace them with who ever is available.Alan Rickman in the Penthouse works for me and I am sure we can come up with a scenario for Colin Firth that involves a white shirt and lots of water in the pent house swimming pool.
The only criteria for casting is that they must have both a talent for acting and be prepared to film nude when required. Thinking about it really ought to be High Rise 2 the nudist block where only the dogs wear coats.
@icerose, and we must find a part for Rufus Sewell. And Bill Nighy. And so many more. There don’t seem to be many women living in this complex.
I was always surprised that they did not tie them into a contract when it was first cast. Most TV shows seem to do that.
@icerose … did love the dialogue from Chris the other day.. You should consider changing your nickname… (just kidding… love you… )
That… BBC id*ots?
@sonalaceae (Nighty Yes I am torn between @icebitch or @icethatpick
@icerose …. love sweety.. icerose is a beautiful nickname…
Season 3 wasn’t as good as the first two, but I’m still looking forward to Season 4 and Moriarty’s return from the dead.
Cumby rocks!
I seriously don’t know who to blame for the lack of Sherlock, I am tempted to lay the foot at Moffatt. Because the timing of the new series times itself with the, “I am ready to stop doing Dr Who and pass it over to someone else.” ‘cough’ Neil Gaiman. And, so we get a xmas special Christmas 2015 and full series sometime end of 2016/beg 2017.
Why don’t you just release this with Thor 3 in 2017 at the same time and kill of Tumblr for good.
I am going to be so bored of Sherloki by then I really won’t be bothered. ARRGH.
Black Mass and Crimson Peak are being released within 4 weeks of one another. Tumblr won’t live to see 2016.
I can’t see the Tumblr chicks going ga-ga over Black Mass, I could be wrong but he looks awful and not attractive in that film. I think C/Peak may knock Tumblr over on its own, those on-set pics are well sexy.
Most definitely. And with nude sunbathing and rhinestones also due in 2015, Tumblr may truly be in danger.
You girls are definitely worshipping nude sunbathing.. (I was looking for better word than worshipping, since it doesn’t convey exactly what I wanted to say, but.. can’t think right now… )
@Lilacflowers where did you see the release dates.
@icerose, Black Mass’s was mentioned in local news just a few days ago. Crimson Peak’s has been out for a while – GDT wants his spooky film in theaters for Halloween and award season.
@Nighty, is it the vision that nude sunbathing conjures up in your mind or the rhinestones blinding you that is affecting your thought process?
@Lilac, it’s the fact that it’s 86ºF outside, sunny, wonderful to go to the beach, but I have to give classes tomorrow for 8 hours to the same group of students (crash course on Spanish, students interchange with Barcelona).. So, this whole week has been cloudy and windy and I had nothing to do except filling out some papers (something that took me a couple of hours), today, and the next days the sun will be shining and I’ll be giving classes.. Nice …
*Right now, I so dislike St. Peter… *
it will be three films for Tom in 2015 and substantial parts in all three. Makes up for this years drought. Hoping he can squeeze in a little bit of theatre as well.
@icerose, what? You didn’t get your fill with The Muppets?
2017 does seem so far away at the moment. I’m not sure how they will keep the momentum going that long (The next two Avengers movies will do some of the bridging I imagine).
I’m paying the Sherloki name though!!
•Squirrel•
Momentum?
I thought you designed the merri-go-round to spin with the merest of force. 😉
Besides, who cares about tumb *waves leaves* it’s OUR entertainment that’s important….
*digs out horse riding crop*
See? We can be entertained for hours…
Boys??? Oh boys… Come out wherever you’re hiding…
Yes, momentum. As in keeping the interest going in Thor and his pathetic problems (and gorgeous misunderstood brother) for another 18+ months. I adore Loki but even I am looking forward to them putting this franchise to bed. Bring on Ragnarok!!
The garden does have a lot of fun things for us to do, but it is becoming quite a handful to maintain. Also there seems to be an inordinate amount of people milling around on most weekends, sipping at cold tea and braying at bad jokes like sick donkeys. I think there may be a streaker lurking in the woods as well. I’m sure I saw naked flesh skipping across the lawn the other morning (it was a bit foggy, so I can’t be sure). We might need to keep an eye out for that one. Depending on who it is as to what we do about it! If it’s one of “our boys”, then we will have to quadruple the price of entry tickets…
@Secret Squirrel, a streaker? Advert your delicate little squirrel eyes and I will go in search for the culprit.
@Secret Squirrel the momentum is what I am worried about, two years of never ending plot and casting rumours, memes ,cartoons and pictures. I have already stoped buying the radio times and now I night have to drop twitter as well.
A streaker in the garden? oops i got caught i was having a midnight escapade with Benny and he confiscated my clothes as punishment for making a comment about Hiddles upcoming balcony scene and him being better suited for filming naked scenes than Benny. Please spare my blushes.
Oh ‘p’enny… Never talk about one in front the other, you know how fragile their egos are. You’re lucky he just stole your clothes and didnt spank you like the bad girl you are. Or did he?
😉
How can you be bored by something when it is not even airing?
I get bored by the endless procedural shows that go on and on week after week with very little variation in content.
Sherlock is event television and IMHO is anything but boring.
If you want to blame anyone it is the two main actors and the writers, they do not have the gaps in their schedules to do the show each year.
@Maggie
lol I agree with getting bored with procedural shows too.
on the bored front, i shall explain in a bit more detail, take a seat. 😉
The fan base will keep Sherlock going with endless repeating montages and BBC will repeat Sherlock and reprint it on DVD over and over. That by the time we actually get around to the new series, i will have watched the first three series 100x and be very very bored with same Tumblr gifs. Same goes for the other actor… sorry guys I H-bombed so subtly there, did you notice? I am on a real H -Day, finding allsorts in twitter and making online spy friends in Bangor. Anyway,
thankfully, Benny will, I hope, be brilliant in Richard 111. And his counterpart Martin Freeman is getting good reviews for his. Would love to see it.
It’s a ridiculously long time, but I will watch Sherlock whenever it’s on. For me, it’s brilliant, and it’s given me amazing actors and a very original presentation of characters and stories I have loved since I was a child.
Just wanted to jump in, a little late I know, to agree with you Maggie.
Totally bemused by all the comments saying people get bored or forget about the show and blaming the producers for the gap.
1) If the they had tried to tie their stars into American style contracts they would never have agreed to it. Both Cumberbatch and Freeman had active and diverse careers pre-Sherlock, they would never have agreed.
2) the vast majority of people who watch Sherlock, watch it once, when it airs and then quietly get on with their lives until the next ones come out, and someone like me excitedly starts posting on Facebook 😉 The “fans” are the minority. Based on the last ratings and the world wide sales this is clearly a model they think they can run with.
Exactly MediaB
The ratings and the reviews have been excellent along with viewing figures. Why would they change the model when it is obviously successful.
The type of contract, if any, that Benedict and Martin signed has allowed them to participate in many other very successful ventures as well as continuing with Sherlock. The best of both worlds for them.
@’P’enny I am seeing Freeman in mid July but both he and Benny will have to work hard to compete with Mark Rylance who was epic.
@icerose, Mark Rylance as Hamlet. Over, done, everyone else can retire from acting.
as I said above I am surprised they were not tied into a contract when it was first cast.They were known in the UK then but Sherlock took them to another level so at that point of tone they should have been available to sign them up for possible sequels.
Aren’t British television contracts more geared to short-term? I remember that being the explanation for Lady Sybil and Matthew’s departures from Downton.
@ Lilacflowers Actors will have contracts for serialised TV shows. I know the Torchwood lot were all under contract and I am positive it would happen with something like the WHO as well so why not Sherlock .it usually means they have to keep spaces open until they are told they will be not be needed for a follow up series. It usually has a timespan of a few years.Tom had to get a release from Wallander for the Avengers.
Yes, icerose, that is what I understood and meant by the contracts being short term. In the US, the standard is something like 5-6 years for a television series contract, even though few last that long, and the seasons are much longer. Whereas the Downton Abbey contracts were for three seasons and Dan Stevens and Jessica Whatshername opted not to renew after the third season (the maid O’Brien left too) and the other actors chose to renew. TH would have needed to get out of the third season of Wallender, which would still be considered short-term by US standards.
The special should include:
a montage of fan art adorning someone’s wall
a special clip of the World Bouncing Championships in Hyde Park
a cameo for Benny’s fourth cousin twice removed
Una Stubbs eating a cannoli
a poster of some Russian bint starring in a West End production
a fan letter from Eve
a selection of course papers marked by Fanty, one of which has a vital clue
Otherwise, I ain’t watchin’. Or, more accurately, it probably *will* include several of these things, which will put me off watchin’.
@sixer
havn’t you missed out
a cameo by love interest Lady kinerva-cold witch of the north?
a fluffy husky
a dead body in a Jag [BBC product placements are now allowed]
I bow to your encyclopaedic knowledge!
I also forgot:
a fanservice yawn-ometer with extra high reading scale
I would actually look forward to such an episode.
Just rewatch season 3.
•Sixer•
Why are you are mere editor? You should be at the helm flying this creative mobile! Genius! Those ideas are shear genus!
(But I think his gf should be invisible. Or only seen in his mind palace — she has a serious non-public career after all).
The invisible (or perhaps translucent for television purposes) girlfriend should be pointing. Always pointing.
Floating maroon pants.
•Sighs•
Translucent? Nice. She can be luminescent… 😉
But no pointing. Or maroon trousers. Yuck!
@Sixer – Don’t forget exploding clams!
Brilliant, Sixer!
Their main actors do movies, theatre and tv shows, no wonder we have to wait.
Actually, I DIDN’T miss you Moriarty. You had a good and final death and no matter how much I adore Andrew Scott, you should still be in the grave instead of making a reappearance in whatever form that hack Moffatt is going to drag you back with.
I used to not get the vitriol that was directed towards him (I’m not a regular DW viewer), but with series 3 of Sherlock I am finally beginning to understand why people wish he would find other projects to work on. At this point, two years is not a big deal to wait anymore.
I just flat can’t stand how Moffat writes women and his ham-handedness. I tend to enjoy Gatiss’ work, and the other writers, but when I know it’s a Moffat episode of Sherlock or Doctor Who, I cringe and either skip it or treat it like ripping off a bandaid–just get it over with so I can watch the other eps.
I’m divided on the Moriarty storyline. I have to admit “The Reichenbach Fall” is my all time favourite episode and in no small amount due to Andrew Scott as Moriarty. I enjoy this character immensly, so of course I’d love to see more of him. However I’m not sure how they can top the season 2 finale and “bring him back” (if they really do) in a fashion that doesn’t feel like they took the Moriarty bunny out of the magic box to please the audience. 🙁 I already wasn’t that convinced of Moriarty in Sherlock’s mind in season 3 (it was a bit much if you ask me). I also think that Magnussen is a bit of a problem because Moriarty was the biggest adversary of Sherlock and the most evil genius in the book. However in the series Moriarty got really strong competition by Magnussen if you ask me (and I think the end of that storyline wasn’t really satisfactory, but that’s something else). If they now bring back Moriarty they have to keep Magnussen in mind and top everything of season 2, if you ask me. Can they do that? Tough one…
I really hope they don’t destroy Moriarty as a character in season 4, he was perfect.
So yes, I did miss him. But maybe someone should just do a prequel lol.
Isadora, if we believe Andrew Scott, this is isn’t a last minute move but something that’s been planned while they were writing S2.
I didn’t think we got all of S3, and now with a special–these normally function as the end of one series and the shift into another– that appears to be the case. There were loose ends, big and small, that were largely positioned as ‘look at me’ intentional and not plot-holes.
Katie says:
“if we believe Andrew Scott, this is isn’t a last minute move but something that’s been planned while they were writing S2.”
I don’ t know, when the second season of Sherlock came out I remember Andrew Scott saying that he didn’ t want his character to return from the dead because he had a great final scene (which he did) and because the resurrection would’ ve been cheap (which it will be).
Now, I know that actors lie, but I didn’ t have the impression that he was messing with people back then. I think he genuinely didn’ t know and now accepted to come back (even from the dead) because since it’ s “his” character, he wants to keep going until the bitter end! Personally, I would’ ve preferred for him to decline, just to see how Moffatt the troll would’ ve handled the whole thing!
And by the way, I too agree with the general sentiment towards Moffatt. His female characters are good if they appear for a short time, because if they keep showing up, he ends up making sexist or annoying stereotypes of them. Until last year, I thought he was a sexist douchebag. Now, I think he’ s not, but that he is really really lazy! I also think that he is better at writing single episodes than be the showrunner of an entire season or multiple seasons. Some of the best Doctor Who episodes were written by him (before he became the showrunner), and there were good female characters written by him… the ones who appeared for one or two episodes at most (like the girl in The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances or Sally from Blink).
What pisses me off is that he considers himself the god of writing, does not accept criticism, and his friends (Cumberbatch and Freeman included) back him up no matter what! Rational and objective thinking are dead, apparently!
JWC, it’s hard to tell with Scott, but it’s what he’s saying now. There had to be some sort of advance planning to ensure his involvement, but I’m not privvy to their timetables.
I don’t care for Dr. Who and have no really strong feelings toward Moffat. I do prefer Gatiss, who is also now Sherlock’s showrunner.
Actors don’t bite the hands that feed them, especially in the UK. If Freeman and BC come off as ‘ungrateful’ or ‘unprofessional’ re: airing problems in public, they’ll suffer, not Moffat, who’s in the position of power. Neither actor is big enough to risk problems with the BBC.
to the original post, they did the fireworks in Boston last night (3rd) along with the actual concert.
And the concert was shortened so they could get the fireworks in before Thor attacked us. There’s part of a tree down in my yard. Between the sounds of the fireworks, the thunder, the crashing tree limb, and the car alarms set off by the lightning around here, I think my cat had a coronary episode of some sort. She’s barely moving today. And today, we get six inches of rain or something. Good luck walking the Freedom Trail today!
Thor spoiling your big day? that’s not on. You should be worshipping Lokean Gods and hoki -religions.
Curl up and watch Sherlock and cuddle the cat with Hank William songs and she’ll calm down or read the cat passages from High Rise, cats are going to love that book.
@’p’enny, about an hour ago, she was sleeping peacefully on the back porch when our neighbor decided to turn on his lawnmower (how this man expects to cut his grass when it is soaking wet AND it is still raining is a mystery but he is new to the whole outdoor property thing). My little fur ball launched herself straight up in the air and affixed herself to the door screen. No clue where she is hiding now but I know she doesn’t like Rodney Crowell & Emmylou so Hank is probably a no go and my Sherlock is Jonny Lee. We’re going to go with my usual Independence Day mix of John Phillips Sousa, X (Hey, baby, it’s the 4th of July! – the cat likes X, go figure) and Springsteen while waiting for Will Smith to come save us from aliens. Might try the High-Rise suggestion though. The flesh-eating cat does outlive the Alsatian, doesn’t it?
I could have been in that tree Lilac! I used to love big storms but now that I am a homeowner, I understand how much damage than can do and the costs associated (and you just know Thor will be p@ssed off at anyone who is team Loki and send his wrathful weather tantrum their way).
And I could show your cat infinite ways to get into your supposedly locked house. I do it all the time at Tom and Ben’s houses. Some would say it is creepy that I sneak in and watch them sleep for hours, but I prefer to think of it as “observing and protecting”! This is when I tend to collect for my celebrity belly button lint collection…
@Secret Squirrel, I think Thor is trying to drown BC and Johnny Depp and has forgotten that the rest of us have to live here.
What I find somewhat annoying about the long wait is what I perceive to be this attitude Moffat and co. have that the episodes are so good, such works of television artistry, that they’re worth the very long wait.
I was willing to go along with that after Season 2, but after seeing Season 3 (especially the third episode), it just seems a bit ridiculous to me. There’s so much good TV being produced now, every week, every season, it’s hard to maintain a certain level of excitement about the show.
If they really don’t have the time to do it as well as they did the first 2 seasons, they should just end it after Season 4 or perhaps make it a Christmas TV movie special every few years.
I agree. I don’t know if I will wait around 2 years for another season. The fandom may wait , but I doubt the rest of the viewers will.
And I do understand that the actors are busy and the writers have Doctor Who, but if you really wanted to do another season, it would be a priority. Making this series into something everyone only works on when they don’t have anything else to do it what is killing it.
How lame is it that they are bringing Moriarty back? It seems to me a lack of creativity to bring him back from the dead, rather than getting a new villain. This is often the end of a series. Do you remember when they supposedly killed off Bobby on Dallas? He came back two years later and it was all a dream.
I think that having Mary feature so prominently in the last 3 episodes took a lot of the cleverness out. It also took the edge off of Sherlock and Holmes relationship. Supposedly she is supposed to die in the books.
I’m sure Season 4 will be good though. I just would prefer a new villain.
I wish they would do the Orange Pips.
•drea•
I agree.
Moffat seems to think he’s a god and treats himself as such. He also seems both pissed and confuzzled when the peons and morans (that’s us) don’t ‘understand’ his genius.
I have no issues with waiting for an all-around awesome show; however, season 3 didn’t qualify which is why I’m not going to get myself in a tizzy about season 4. I’m too nervous that it’ll be a disappointment.
I was entirely let down by season 3 of Sherlock. Coming from a person who binge watched the first two seasons before the third. I didn’t understand the hype about Cumbeerbatch until Sherlock, given I only saw him in STID prior.
I’m not a fan of how the women are portrayed in Sherlock, I also didn’t find the kiss between Molly and Sherlock to be hot. I find it interesting with the angle if the camera, and the scene. But it felt more like cousins were kissing. May just be me that feels that wag though.
•Ash•
I think a lot of people felt let down over season 3. My daughter dislikes the season so much she won’t even finish the season — she was that disgusted by the whole thing.
I have to say, I did like Molly & Sherlock’s kiss, it was the physics of the getting in the window that threw me off…. (Physics bows to no man, not even Sherlock! Lol).
As for Moffatt and women, I’ve been on tumblr and seen a lot of commentary about how he writes women. And I’m not 100% sold he’s misogynyistic as he could also be lazy. In fact, season 3 was a good argument for the fact he’s a very lazy writer overall. (Very, very lazy too)
Benedict’s acting is very good. I haven’t yet seen Third Star but most people think he’s stellar (pun intended) in it. Same with Wreckers although Wreckers needs to be seen more than once as the director went for an ambiguous ending (watch YouTube for interviews as it helps clear up some confusion).
*LadySlippers*
I only finished season 3 due to wanting to see what happened, and I have these weird thing where no matter how stupid or horrible a movie is, I have to see the ending. Hopefuly, the Christmas specials and next season is far better.
I know I’m in the minority of not feeling into the kiss, but c’est le vie. Yes, the physics part was, all you said. Shouldn’t there have been at least a drop of blood from the glass? Lol
I get more lazy writing myself. I do honestly think it may have “borrowed” some ideas from fans no doubt about that for me.
I’ve seen a handful of Benedict’s acting gigs. I forgot about watching the show where plays a guy name Teijens (sp?), Warhorse, and 12 Years A Slave. For some reason I hadn’t realized those were him. I’ll definitely put Wreckers and Third Star to the list to watch.
we don’t know if Moriaty is coming back – just because he left a big message on Piccadilly Circus, going ‘Miss Me’ doesn’t mean he is still alive. Because Gatiss has said he is well and truly dead with a big blo0dy head wound that he couldn’t survive from. 😉
Of course, being a writer on Dr who as well, he may have a cross over where the Doctor interferes and saves poor Moriaty because he is actually the Master in disguise. and he regenerates.
Doesn’t MoriArty have a brother? I don’t think I’m making that up.
I think so, that he has a brother…. @Sighs… brotherly revenge, perhaps…
Gatiss is on Game of Thrones now where you are only well and truly dead if your body has been reduced to ash, so that may be carrying over.
Yes, in the books Professor James Moriarty (THE Moriarty) has a brother, Colonel James Moriarty. (Same name, interesting, huh?) He also has a second in command, who is practically like a Watson to Moriarty, his name is Sebastian Moran and he wasn’t yet in the series.
Also food for thought: Doyle’s Moriarty is a mathematician and published a book called “The Dynamics of an Asteroid”. In the series Sherlock’s mother is a mathematician and wrote a book called “The Dynamics of Combustion”, which is clearly a reference. Make of that what you want, but I think it’s interesting especially with Mycroft’s comment about a third brother.
On another note: I think they will bring Irene Adler back at some point and I’m decidedly not thrilled about that. I like Lara Pulver just fine, but I don’t agree with the way Irene Adler was portrayed in the series – it’s so immensly different than Doyle’s Adler, I think they totally missed the point, although of course eye candy and funny. But still…
Drea, not a fan of Moffat either, but realistically it’s either wait or they don’t do the show as opposed to Moffat believing the show’s that good and doing it on purpose. He wanted it out faster this time.
TBH I’m not that bothered because I’m one of those people who lets an entire season DVR before I start it LOL. I suspect most casual viewers will notice it when it reappears, remember they like it and watch, which is what happened with 3. It is a miniseries after all.
This season wasn’t as good, I feel like Moffat simply gave in to the fan wank, it was annoying.
If the show has that much time in between turn I expect tightly woven story lines, I really shouldn’t tho, Moffat screwed up Doctor Who royally…
Sigh.
•Maria•
‘Fan wank’ — great descriptor!
😊
Perhaps it’s time for Moffat to step down as show runner for Doctor Who. Ok, way past time.
Yep, Kaiser my friend, I liked Season 3 also, and don’t care for another dragged out Moriarty arc. As for the wait, eh….it is stretched out, but that’s what they do. Even with the the last few seasons for Doctor Who, which was painful waiting. I think they’ve finally changed course and will do regular season runs and with the new Doctor. But somehow, I doubt that will ever be the case with Sherlock….as if it’s whole existence is about being sparse, rare and an anticipated event. No matter, we’re used to their tricks and got plenty of good stuff to focus on before then 🙂 Oh, and maybe Benny and Martin may be very busy these days too 😉
“Kaiser my friend, I liked Season 3 also, and don’t care for another dragged out Moriarty arc.”
This is my feeling too. I enjoyed S3, and enjoyed the cat & mouse between Sherlock and Moriarty through the end of S2. But I have no desire to have that character back – hopefully his “return” at the end of S3 will turn out to be some manipulation by a colleague, and it will be all settled in the Special, so that S4 can be about new, interesting stories. Personally I’d rather the only thing that carries over from episode to episode is the way the characters are developing … this show being event television, it doesn’t really need multi-episode arcs, IMO.
True, I think the multi-episode arcs take away from the criminal cases and that’s sad because the case solving was also always one of the major draws of Doyle’s stories, imho. There are so many series about people with all kinds of issues and relationship problems, but to me Sherlock Holmes is first and foremost a criminal case solving genius.* But I also suspect that creating really intricate and clever cases for a someone exceptionally intelligent like Sherlock is the most taxing part for the writers, so maybe they rely on multi-episode arcs when they are lazy or without imagination. 😛
* (btw, I think the more they concentrate on relationship issues, also between Sherlock and John, the more they pander to the fangirls who ship Johnlock or something.)
If Hiddles is going to play third brother I can wait until 2016 *one never knows, maybe it can be true*
Fangirl wishes honestly
No way, season 3 was already a fangirl wank, so if Tom is the third brother it’ll be totally ridiculous.
I usually try to bring my A game to CB, a comment has to be worthy of this forum… it must raise the level of discourse, be insightful about the human condition, and still manage to be snarky and just a wee bit naughty. Oh, and it must include proper punctuation, grammar and spelling. I do struggle a bit with that last part, but at least I try.
So here is my contribution to the talk of whether Hiddles could/should be a Holmes brother:
No! Noooo, no, no, no… trying to think of other words to convey depth of feeling about how bad an idea that is…wait, I’m thinking….yeah, I got nothin’….noooo.
@Dara, so, we can check you off as “opposed”, correct? Just seeking some clarification as you were not totally clear in your thoughts on the subject.
It’s okay Lilac, I speak Dara-nese. I have translated her comments below…
“Please pass the salt. My boat needs a watermelon. Could you show me the way to a brothel. I think my leg just fell off”
Your welcome!
Thanks ladies, I was a little worried my comment might be misinterpreted, so thanks for the clarification and translation – I’m glad you’ve got my back.
@squirrel, your mastery of the language is quite impressive and I think you’ve captured the gist. Just one minor correction – ‘brothel’ is more accurately read as ‘Bora Bora’. The mistake is completely understandable, in Dara-nese the words and meaning are nearly identical. And referring to a boat and a watermelon in the same sentence is an idiom for something that really shouldn’t be mentioned in polite company. I am, after all, a lady…
@Dara, oh dear. Do you need medical attention for that leg of yours? The doctor is here. http://www.actucine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Only-Lovers-Left-Alive-130924-06.jpg
Lord knows if I have to live with my condition until that movie is released on DVD/Blu-Ray in the US I really will need medical attention of some sort. I missed OLLA in theaters and I’ve resolved not to watch any clips or behind the scenes extras online until I can see the actual film.
As a result, I’ve developed an involuntary eye twitch from slamming my eyes shut every time I stumble across a photo, gif or video clip of Adam. Thankfully, @lilac, I’d already seen that particular photo, so no lasting harm done. I do appreciate the lovely gesture – it was very kind of you to send that sweet angel of mercy my way.
@Dara, so sorry for your eye affliction, in addition to the leg injury. I understand the torture you feel. I avoided all such exposure until I was able to see it in the theater in late April. Fortunately, I was able to see it twice. i do hope you have pre-ordered so that it arrives on your doorstep the very day of release
Ladies, I enjoy you immensely! 🙂
@Isadora, right back at ya babe! And I use the term babe in only the most enlightened, empowered, and un-misogynistic way possible.
@Lilac, I really am a mess at the moment…eyes, leg, don’t even get me started on my hair or my worsening case of ennui (word of the day). At least I”m not in the path of a hurricane, that is consolation of sorts I suppose.
Oh, please, no.
Just popping in to wish all my fellow American CB’ers a very happy Independence Day! Don’t go blowing off any fingers or limbs or anything when you celebrate!
And to all the peeps from England, you’re all the best too! No hard feelings about that little war, right? 🙂
Happy Independence Day ladies.
@janeite I just want to say I didn’t think you were behind the gossip like some claim. Just wanted it writing so it would stop. I knew you weren’t Miss Thing because you were the only one who took her on. Glad this was before my time. It sounds complicated
English people think we celebrate the 4th of July because we became independent from them. Perhaps it started that way, but now it is just a celebration of how awesome we are. LOL. Tongue in cheek girls. We all want to go back to the motherland at any opportunity.
Since we are stuck in America, I say we enjoy ogling Benedict and his full range of emotions here:
http://www.bustle.com/articles/29903-let-benedict-cumberbatchs-face-guide-you-through-the-abcs-of-emotions-with-these-gifs
Love the gifs… thnks… The curious one is hilarious…
I’m not going to take your lack of good wishes for your Australian friends personally… Nope, I’m not. No… nope….
*tears squirt from eyes as I run off in a swoony fit vowing to never sleep with any of you again*
On a brighter note, I finally sent my letter of recommendation to Wimbledon asking them to move the scheduled timing of matches so I don’t have to sit up till the middle of the night to watch them. From now on Wimbledon will be a night event in Helsinki (or Bora Bora, Tahiti if it is raining in Helsinki) and consist only of players I have personally inspected and approved (Note: there won’t be many female matches going into the future).
@Secret, sweety, my favourite squirrel, my worshipped squirrel, my Majesty Queen Squirrel…. a happy 4th of July to you and all australians..
July 4th is the highlight of the season of that most American of games.
It’s a game of thrills and suspense and luck, known as:
“Those sounds we just heard…were they fireworks or gunfire?”
Add extreme thunder, trees falling, and flood waters rushing to those options. Thank you.
And yesterday, hail was in the mix too!
Well, of course, it was! Now we need some sleet!
@janeite I thought my comment about Cruella deville on the other thread may have come over as a bit flippant. I do feel for you caught up in the mess that shall not be named.Sadly whoever it is just cannot let it go so think of it as taking a hit for Tom. Whoever it is so intent on the attacking others that she completely forgets to serve the powdered tea.That is why we are here.We all know you only serve Earl Grey.
I will forget about it until it’s scheduled on TV. I largely loathed Season 3 so if I never see it again, it’s no loss to me. The last thing I will be feeling is eager anticipation. It’ll be more like dread.
If it’s Friday it must be a Celebitchy Benny post ( but then the same is true of every other day of the week). An overdose ( and I’m still immune). But nice for the Clumberspanielbitches.
Hi all.Really can’t wait forfor season 4.I just hope that Moffatt let’s Gatiss write them all!Far superior writer.He seems to understand the characters better.If they stick to the development in the books(which Gatiss says they try to),then Mary dies.Not invested in herxas a character,so that won’t bother me.I’m hoping they don’t get rid of Molly.Loo Brealey is amazing.Happy Independence Day to you all xx
I’m not sure if Mary dies as Watson married three times in the books. They might just take his three wifes and combine them in one for the series (which is not hard as the other two are hadly ever mentioned). On the other hand Mary’s well.. “state” could pose quite some future problems for the Sherlock/John dynamics. Their stations in life would be farther apart than ever.
I expect filming will be tricky this time going on the crowds that turned up when the last series was filmed.
i am really disappointed that Tom isn’t keeping up with the Benny tennis pap photos this year. No sign of him at Wimbledon at all! Where has his PR machine gone? Benny is getting all the threads on CB and the PR-paps. Not having this Luke.
anyway, the twitter spy says, first actors for High Rise turn up on Sunday . Why sunday? he could be at Wimbo doing a Benny with a secret girl on his arm. grrr
He only has a cough small part so perhaps they will give him Sunday off.
‘cough’small part on.the balcony should be pretty quick to.film. the director of photpgrapy is on twitter ns its a ‘she’ she has bookef some good uncoated lenses. 🙂
But ‘p’enny, all your suffering now will be rewarded with nude sun-bathing on the balcony in High-Rise. Delayed gratification, dear. Have a cookie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ubVVnWglk
But he’s busy posing for photos on tumblr with his secret ‘companion’ instead. Far more disceet that appearing in the VIP box at Wimbledon. He may be there for the men’s final? If not it’s back to Benny…
..(p)enny–I’m with you ’til the end of the line on this thought:
“I seriously don’t know who to blame for the lack of Sherlock, I am tempted to lay the foot at Moffatt. Because the timing of the new series times itself with the, “I am ready to stop doing Dr Who and pass it over to someone else.” ‘cough’ Neil Gaiman.”
BRILL idea…though perhaps problematic given his other responsibilities.
As for crossing the streams regarding “the other guy”, I must admit to utter incomprehension regarding criteria for comment threads. They keep ending when I least expect it, and long before my thirst is sated. Luckily there are ALWAYS BC threads to rummage around in…like truffle-huntin’ or somethin’….
They keep ending mid-conversation, but they are usually several hundred posts deep at that point.
finding Hiddles these days on CB or his ‘non promotional’ Twitter posts is like truffle-hunting, ‘snort’ maybe we need to get a pig to find him.
A hiffle-huntin’ hound, mayhap….. Eh ehehehe!
Torilla has posted a photo-shoot by Tom by Lorenzo Agius Part I.
http://torrilla.tumblr.com/
haha “truffle-hunting”! Oh my dear ‘P’enny
And here are some Hiffles (H-truffles) for y’all…..her most recent three posts are collections:
http://torrilla.tumblr.com/post/91075509240/jess-wright-pic-of-tom-i-took-on-set-of-high
Thanks, Totally Biased, he’s looking quite fine.
I don’t mind waiting for Series 4, it is what it is.
Also, I always thought the cases were a tool used in the narrative to reveal more about the moral, emotional and intellectual struggles of the characters. They were never the main focus of this Sherlock series.
Though I loved Jeremy Brett’s Sherlock I had no emotional investment in his character or any of the characters in that series. It was ALL about the game which is fine but without that emotional connection and knowing that Sherock would prevail 99.9% of the time, well the fun was kinda sucked out of it.
This Shelock is a lot messier, needier, much more of a narcissistic bitch and I like it. The other characters are much more than foils to highlight Sherlock’s intellectual prowess .
And yes, I like Series 3 it was funny as hell and quite touching. Comedy is hard people, drama is much easier.
Even though I wasn’t overly fond of Series 3, I still have faith that Series 4 will be a lot better. Series 1 & 2 were brilliant so it doesn’t really make much sense to lose faith after one mishap. Hopefully the writers will learn from their mistakes and redeem themselves with this one. Which means no more fanservice, no more overly sentimental touchy, feely Sherlock, and no more cop-outs. Also if they do bring back Moriarty they better have a good explanation for how he survived and why he’s back.
I know I’m going to get a lot of hate for this, but I don’t understand the hype over Molly. I understand why a lot of people like her (the sweet, shy and mousy girly with the crush on the male lead trope is pretty popular in female fandom), I’ve just never been invested in her. It just seems like her only purpose show is to appeal to the fan girls, I don’t find her relatable or realistic. Also, the fact that she never changes or develops doesn’t help much. Yeah she grew a little backbone in series 3, but she was still the same mousy, obsessive Sherlock fangirl she was in A Study in Pink. To her credit, she’s not annoying or useless per se, and I do think Louise Brealy is a really good actress. But let’s face it, her entire character revolves around her feelings for Sherlock and when she’s not being Sherlock’s helper/tool or a skin for female fans to put on, her intelligence, personality, character are completely overlooked.
you should read molly’s tweets [louise brealey’s] yesterday nearly spit coffee all over myself. very funny. [nothing Sherlock related] I think if added more of Louise into Molly the character would be hilariously rude.
Sherlock DE, engl. @Sherlock_EN
@suevertue as this has been the topic of discussions, may I ask you how long the special is going to be? 10 min or maybe even 60 min? Thanks
sue vertue @suevertue
@Sherlock_EN . It will be 90 minutes
Special episode of Sherlock, which will shoot in January, the timing will be 90 minutes, and then the shooting will take 2 months, LCOZ transported either strongly or generally canceled.
This is not good for promo TIG, if the movie will be good criticism, Ben will be located in LA. But shooting Sherlock put an end to Ben’s ambitions award season.
i doubt it take two months to film a 90 min special, the BBC film fast i think Gatiss once commented that each 90min episode is filmed in less than 6 weeks. I think LCOZ is not a goer i really do think Benny is filming Dr Strange next Spring. I wish i could put money on it – 😀
He will not appear in Doctor Strange, Marvel’s movie making, usually take 6-7 months, Ben is already in June rehearsal of Hamlet.
i’m putting a tenner on it :-p
It’s only possible if LCoZ is dropped or delayed (again). Marvel has yet to delay production of any of their films except when RDJ sustained an injury for IM3. It’s still possible, but it’s way too soon to tell.
While I’m upset that we won’t have an episode for a long time, I will be stalking the set in January. My goal is to at least get a picture with the door as it isn’t hung when they aren’t filming. It would be great to see some filming too, but I’ve got goals that won’t break my heart or my work sked 😉
Maybe they will fit filming the 3 part series around his rehearsal schedule for Hamlet.Benedict and Martin have both said they love these characters and are willing to continue for as long as people want to watch them.
That’s impossible for an actor.. too much work simultaneously…
Does he have anything lined up before Hamlet?After would be towards December 2015,possible….
Each sherlock episode takes at least 5 weeks to film…so you are looking at nearly 4 months to do the 3 episodes plus all of january/a bit of february to do the special. I agree with people saying LCOZ seems out or delayed (again) if both projects are supposed to shoot in January. Plus he’s got Yellow Birds to think about at some point too. And Hamlet seems like a 6 month proposition once you factor in rehearsals and the performances.
Interesting thought that he won’t be as available for pre-oscars promo and parties in LA in January though if he’s busy filming. Constantly having to jet off to LA for promotional stuff will break up the filming schedule and make Sherlock take even longer to film as well.
I dont envy the person that maintains his calendar.
I think they are most likely filming the special only for 2015 christmas, and the next series in 2016 if it is for 2016/17 christmas new year shows.
that’s my guess.
Richard III is definite. His schedule looks like a mess to me right now; I wouldn’t expect a massive Oscar campaign.
I think there are clauses in contract that may allow him to do some promo (assuming he gets nominated, for example).
His schedule is a royal mess, but I think he is rather enjoying it and its good to see him capitalising on his success.
Hamlet will be out at the same time that Fassbender MacBeth is coming out. It would be a wonderful time for iambic pentameters. 😉
He has a few films ostensiably lined up, depending on all sorts of scheduling and finance things for directors and producers.
Accidental double post…
Seems like Benedict is going to be a very busy boy in the next year or so.He mustn’t like to turn work away.
A Christmas special would be fantastic (preferably also set during Christmas). I really enjoyed the Christmassy bits in Scandal in Belgravia.
I did to Jammypants.Benedict and Christmas!My two favourite things.
with more violin!
Ben will not participate in the filming of the Black Mass, until early next week. Who knows the thread, he’s still in Boston or not
He was here this weekend, hanging out with Ed Sheeran somewhere. Filming today was in Quincy, MA and they were trying to make it look like Santa Monica so BC wouldn’t be in those scenes.
He was,at one time,going to be in Ed Sheeran’s video.Don’t think it happened for some reason though.Has BC hooked up with any “mystery woman/women” recently?Press here has gone really quiet about him.
It was definitely in Boston and it was definitely Ed? Because Ed’s weekend concerts were in Pennsylvania, when he was hanging out with Ed?
Did I see on one of these threads that Benedict is in Boston until 22 July?I get quite confused trying to remember where and what I’ve seen.
For the hundred billionth time, the show does not say Sherlock is a sociopath. He, the character, calls himself a sociopath because it’s a defense mechanism. Sherlock is an emotional wreck; he feels things more intensely than other people, which is exactly WHY he works so hard at closing himself off. He can’t manage his own emotions, so he shuts them down. It’s just easier to hide behind the “sociopath” thing because it sounds cooler than “giant emotionally fragile baby.” The show isn’t “getting the terminology wrong.” I seriously have no idea how anyone is still confused about this.
Tippet,I totally agree.Moffatt and Gatiss have said the same on several occasions. It’s Sherlock’s own way of describing himself.And a protection against being hurt
Exactly, and I think that Sherlock is probably at least a touch bipolar. He shows textbook symptoms in The Great Game,Hounds of Baskerville, and A Scandal in Belgravia (shooting the walls and lashing out from boredom, freaking out and pacing and describing his mind as feeling like it’s “tearing itself to pieces”–classic manic symptoms, and his whole “sometimes I don’t talk for days on end” thing is pretty textbook depressive-phase stuff). Basically he has an emotional disorder.
Hello my lovelies.No new Benedict threads for eons (well days)!Has he been abducted by aliens?Run away with his harem of mystery women?Or forsaken his Cumberb****es and become a monk?I’m having serious withdrawal symptoms.
He was recording additional voicework for Penguins of Madagascar today.
Raven,thanks.Do you know if he is still on Black Mass or has he finished filming?And any sightings of him with any dates?Desperate for a Cumber fix!
As I said, Ben will be at Comic-Con
Steven Weintraub @colliderfrosty
confirmed: Benedict Cumberbatch is coming to Comic-Con on Thursday for DreamWorks Animation’s PENGUINS OF MADAGASCAR.