The NY Post and Page Six (part of the NYP) have been reporting for weeks/months now that all is not well in Beyonce and Jay-Z’s marriage. The whole thing sort of blew up after Solange attacked Jay-Z in the elevator after the Met Gala, which was in May. It’s more than possible that Bey and Jay were having significant marriage problems before then, but the Solange incident just gave everyone permission to gossip about their marriage openly. Anyway, Page Six/the NY Post has a lengthy assessment of their marriage problems – you can read the full piece here. Some highlights:
*A source says that they complement each other professionally too much to split now: “There’s still something there, even though it’s not going to last. Business is always part of the equation. They know they’re the king and queen of hip-hop — and really, all of music. Neither wants to lose that.” Together, they are the most powerful celebrity couple in the world and their joint worth is $1 billion.
*The public shows of affection are just that, the source says: “Knowing them as I do, obviously there’s a little something to certain rumors. When your man or your woman isn’t getting it done for you, and I’m talking emotionally, not necessarily sexually…they keep things quiet.”
*In the beginning, when they first met in the early aughts, Jay was into her but she wasn’t into him. Her uncle claimed: “He was after her and she wasn’t. She told me she wasn’t too fond of him…I guess she wasn’t attracted to him.” The source says Beyoncé was most interested in Jay’s mind. “Jay’s a kingmaker; she recognized that. This was a come-up for her, no question. She had to learn the ropes as presented by Jay — but really, this was mostly about business.”
*They both cheated, said a source: “They each had guilty pleasures.”
*Jay controls Bey: “There’s no bigger controller than Jay,” the source says. “She’s great, but she’d be a little lower on the totem pole if it weren’t for hooking up with him.”
*I don’t even understand this quote: “They don’t subscribe to that ‘teach-a-person-to-fish’ thing. They’ll give you a fish once in a while, but they let everyone know that they’re the only sharks in the water.”
*Jay hangs out with his Roc Nation friends but he doesn’t keep them in the loop about everything. Bey is tight with Solange, Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams “but even they can’t swing by without first getting clearance.” And “Beyoncé and Jay Z both change their cellphone numbers every two weeks.”
*What Bey and Jay really think of Kimye: “They are guarding like hell their status. Beyoncé wasn’t going to allow a Kardashian to socially climb her. And Jay didn’t want Kanye with Kim — he thinks it’s bad for business. I think Jay lost a little respect for Kanye there.”
*Solange thinks Jay has been fooling around with Rihanna this whole time.
There are many other interesting tidbits, like Beyonce is losing respect for the way Jay conducts himself. And everyone keeps saying that Jay brought marriage counselors on the tour, but he never sticks around long enough to work through anything because he’s always on the phone, tending to business. Page Six’s sources think it’s only a matter of time before Bey and Jay split for good, but even then they don’t want their divorce to make them mere celebrity mortals.
Photos courtesy of Beyonce’s IG and Tumblr.
Doubtful. In the end it’s all about their “brand”.
Yes I agree
I 100 percent don’t believe this. Especially because page six has been saying for almost a year that they are getting a divorce. It’s the same with BP and AG. They are always fighting and breaking up. Also they have a brand and are a successful power couple. No way are they getting that with other people.
I was just coming to say that. It’s funny how some gossip rags have been focussing on the supposed “imminent” implosion of certain couples (Miranda & Blake, Brange, Jen & Justin, Will & Jada, etc., etc.) but then miss the big ones like Tom and Nicole, Tom and Katie, etc.
Yeah they can get together with other couples who were going to have EPIC splits according to tabloids…
Brad and Angelina
Will and Jada
Stay Pressed
BTW I met Miss Tina and her Boo at Minute Maid Park.OTR concert was great.Miss Tina looks fierce since she got rid of Matthew.
The “brand” comments never make sense to me. They collaborate sometimes but their business life is separate from their private life. They don’t talk a lot about each other in interviews. although more so in the last couple of years. If they weren’t seen every once in a while most probably wouldn’t know they were married. I like Beyonce. Jay has nothing to do with it. Jay-Z fans probably feel the same way about Beyonce. Being a fan of one isn’t reliant on the other.
They’ll do anything to drum up interest in their latest concert, including start rumors of divorce. It would be funny if no-one cared.
They are such fraudsters, I’m glad they are being exposed. After that fake pregnancy of hers, I lost what little respect I had for Beyonce.
I doubt she cares.
Fake pregnancy? LOL
Maybe a temporary fake bump. Some ladies do add padding there if they aren’t showing as much as they’d like. Seems silly, but absolutely happens.
ITA- I was thrilled when I got out of the “is she fat or pregnant?” phase and it was obvious. I never wore a padded bump but I always thought that was the case with Beyoncé.
Exactly this. Bey’s rabid need for positive attention backfired on her in a monumental way but how can anyone seriously think she faked a pregnancy/deliverance? It was the only time she had boobs and I remember those ankles and moon face, lol. Can’t fake that.
Yeah, I’m inclined to agree with this. Especially for a first time mother with Beyonce’s height (5’7” -just Googled it!) and her muscly abs she wasn’t going to be showing for a while and that was not going to fly when she had a four month pregnancy bump to debut at an awards show. So I believe the padding story.
Yeah I think she padded but did not fake the pregnancy. Some dumb sites like sandrarose tried to claim that Beyonce was taking a drug that would mimic pregnancy, cause her to gain weight, etc. Though the fact that the drug can kill you was never accounted for at all. Even Lainey came out and pretty much said no she didn’t fake the pregnancy and why are people still even asking about that.
I think people ganged up with each other on the fake pregnancy rumor cause of the way she announced the pregnancy. Like the kid was some royal baby. Royal kids are just kids too . Jay Z and Kanye’s reactions were cute when she was at VMA’s rubbing her baby, but now Jay Z just seems and is a selfish jerk for not being at Kanye’s wedding. If you people are brothers like you try to say.
I think it’s kinda ignorant to speculate because if she did fake it perhaps it was due to her miscarriage…in which case if you can afford it, why not?
I will believe it when I see it.
Far more than wanting to be free of one another, these two LOVE the $$$$$$$ and power that their “brand” makes. They are both too ego driven to let go of their “marriage” and lose the cache that their union brings to the table.
I have always believed their marriage to be a stealth business arrangement and I see no reason why they would throw in the towel at this point.
I predict baby #2 to be announced after this tour wraps and then lots of “solo” projects and excuses to be made once they start spending less and less time together.
I’m not sure, throught this whole tour beyonce has been very open and talked about forgiveness and how she forgave him and their moving forward..why plant a forgiveness seed of they were planning a divorce, plus there’s been pictures of how they both removed the marital tattoos, or covered them up? , but now they have them again.. I’ll also believe it when I see it.
Yup, baby #2 as soon as this tour finishes. Wheel out that pregnancy, try to settle these rumours and then get back to whatever it was they were doing (I predict going back to the super private marriage routine) before all the insight reared its ugly head.
I don’t see a second kid on the horizon. They will divorce when the interest dies down and they figure how to play it to their advantage. It will be at least another three years, but less than seven years when they divorce.
And… where is the news?! Nothing new here.
It would make for great gossip, but I just don’t see it happening. Their marriage is their brand and that’s everything to them.
@TheOriginalKitten…This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not going to happen….I think that they will find some way to stay together/married so that neither Bey nor J loses face. Maybe an announcement of divorce….and a grand/fake reconcilliation. Or maybe …I’ve been watching too many Twilight Zone reruns.
Not just that, but a lot of private info gets released with divorce proceedings. Even if they were to get it sealed (which isn’t a guarantee) there’s still a risk of leak.
This never gets discussed on this site, but I wonder how Jay’s sports agency business will fare in the long run. He used his celebrity connections to get clients, but does the man have the knowledge and savvy to keep them? It feels like he just figured it would be an easy way to make money.
I agree for the most part. They have a leak that they need to shut down but I don’t know if they will manage that since their pr has been terrible lately. I think they will stay together for a while. Separate lives and all that but maintain the image for the brand. But as I’ve said before, I really think eventually they will split and Bey will have a tell-all book that will blow people’s minds.
I am kind of indifferent to B & J as a couple. I think they are both talented, but I’m not a rabid fan.
That being said (getting cold and calculated here)…I think a divorce is a great card for her to have in her hand. As a singer, there is so much material to be mined from a break-up, especially one involving a very long term relationship and children. I am sure she’d have more savvy than ThickeDouche, so I am sure it’d sell/sound better than “Paula”. She’d have the ballads about a broken heart and the dance songs about feeling free and letting her hair down.
I don’t think she is at a point in her career where she’d need to use that card, being that her last album did so well. I think she could wait a couple years to use that gimmick.
Yep that is what I said. Their marriage is broken and they will wait to figure out how to use it to their advantage. They also want to wait for the interest to die down. Faking a marriage for a few years is nothing. I say no more than seven years cause of their ages. He will be in his late 40’s and 50’s where he maybe grows up a little and gets tired of so much superficiality. She will have the same happen to her and will want to have another kid. They aren’t going to have another kid together. They will tote the one they already have and maybe pull some defense, Solange’s son.
I agree, but….I think there is only so much a person can take when it comes to faking a relationship, even for power-hungry ego-maniacs like them. Actually it’s probably that aspect that leads to it breaking down because there will be fierce clashes. My guess is they will keep it going until one of them just can’t bear to keep up the charade any longer.
Isn’t it ironic that this power, money and influence doesn’t afford them the thing we cherish most at the end of the day, to be able to live freely? It’s kind of pathetic.
Yeah, I don’t really care if they split, my comment is more about that ghastly top photo. They actually posed for that didn’t they?
It’s a pic from the tour… they pose alot for the audience.
I feel like I’m the only one who hopes they work things out. I like them together.
No, I feel like such a sap, but I always thought at least part of it was real. Such a cute little family and all that. :-/
Nope lol, you’re not the only one 🙂 I like them together as well, I hope these are just rumors without merit. I’ve thought they were sweet together since the rumors started that they were a couple.
Nope. I’m on that train, too. I’m such a softie 🙁
I like them too. I remember watching the Beyonce HBO doc and in it they showed a lot of old footage of them. In one clip they showed her making a toast to Jay on his birthday and you can really see how in love they were.
they are a brand. Jay Z doesnt come across as the type who truly wants to be married and Beyonce cares about her fame and money and her appearance, but i dont see her being interested in other people at all. not that she is asexual, just not being very emotional, romantically and in friendship or family.
having said that they are a brand makes it unlikely that they will divorce because they dont get alont in private. BUT those constant rumors are very bad for their brand. so it will be interesting to see how long they can uphold it and how they will react if it keeps staying in the press. if it breaks down Bey will profit a lot more from it because she can play the wronged wife then.
“not that she is asexual, just not being very emotional, romantically and in friendship or family.”
LOL… us Virgo women can give off that asexual vibe every now and then. But trust me… we are quite the opposite.
Gee – that’s interesting. I’m not really into astrology but am a virgo and that rings true with me. I look very feminine but have more of a masculine approach to things at times. My husband, when we first met, said he was surprised to hear that I wanted kids because I didn’t seem maternal. I couldn’t believe it, I am fiercely so and never realised that I came off that way. And I don’t flirt, come off as more self-assured (which works even better if I may say so!) but am in no way not interested in sex! I think I just keep the crazy burnings to myself.
Their relationship has been a business arrangement from the beginning.
I know their couple relationship status is strong; but I think if they wanted out of the marriage they could do it and both of them could be stronger after.
I wonder if they have a prenup. Because if they did they both could just take what they each have and be done with it. Jay would have to pay child support.
The thing I believe is the part about Kim/Kanye… Jay has not been seen with Kanye in what over a year. Everything else is good gossip.
Yep. I agree. Like how you stated it.
I don’t understand the need for tabloids to scream break-up without solid evidence. They just seem to like doing it for many couples and it sometimes comes out of the blue. The elevator fight was odd, but who knows what really transpired. What I do wish is that couples would not then answer said rumors with treacly sweet photos of the perfect family smiling and loving or do horrid pap walks. They should just let it all go and live their lives and ignore the madness. I have to admire Brad and Angelina on this account. They never respond, stay hidden and just go on living. Ten years down the road and still together. This couple should do the same and stop caring so much what others have to say about them. It just gives the tabloids more ammunition.
But the Kanye/KK thing sounds all too real.
I don’t think they will split anytime soon. And when they do it will be as surprising as her last album.
They’ll keep the divorce details hushed. If B/C-list celebs Kerr-Bloom can dodge the ugly details of their split, so can these two. Though I’ll hold out hope that it’ll be like Faces of Death… but with caviar.
I think that’s mostly because nobody cares about Kerr/Bloom…. Bey and Jay however…. people worship them… and they worship their relationship too. It’s quite frightening.
Jay — I could see him dating one of his young protegees… But who would Beyonce date? I’m thinking an actor, but I have no idea who she would consider worthy of her image.
Same! I’m also wondering who Beyoncé could move to… I come up empty, so I’m like yeah they can’t split!
Kanye West?
If Bey is smart, she would do what most of the supermodels have done: a wall street hedgefund owner, Silicon Valley wiz, some ungodly rich business man type. No more celebrities. Jay-z, in my head, is perfect for her because he’s on her level in regards to money and fame and has never had to live in her shadow. If they were to break-up, she should be with someone who is already a heavy weight in their chosen field and equally rich.
True, the next step for her would be one of those start-up billionaires.
Obama LOL. You *know* they fantasize about each other….
There has been rumor around the web that Bey has had some girlfriends during the marriage.
oooh la la!
LOL
Idris the British actor she made a film with, but first she’d have to pry him away from his baby mama. 🙂
OMG they wld be such a hot couple
The facade is over, you can tell that whole elevator thing truly devastated Beyonce cause we all now know something is up. Her eyes have not been the same ,she looks mortified.
THIS. When your family member starts a physical fight in public with your spouse – things are BAD. And have probably been pushed to the breaking point by now.
Another reason Solange should have practiced some self control and not attacked Jay Z. I mean who doesn’t know elevators in fancy hotels don’t have cameras, she knew the cameras were there and that Jay Z won’t fight back exposing the cracks in the marriage. However I don’t think they will divorce due to lost of power couple status.
”…Jay-Z won’t fight back exposing the cracks in the marriage.”
Are you serious????
So, the only reason he didn’t hit her is because he knew there were camera’s in the elevator (and YOU know this because you have telepathic abillities eventhough, as a business man, if he knew there were camera’s he would’ve made sure they never saw the light of day) and not because he doesn’t beat women? How pessimistic of you.
Yup… a house of cards.
ITA. She definitely hasn’t been the same since the elevator incident. Although, she always looks so dead in the eyes… I just think that someday her obsession with fame is going to catch up with her. She is completely robotic. She will eventually crack.
yup her and victoria beckham would rather die than let the world know their lives aren’t perfect.
On the fish thing, I’m guessing it means that they might throw a bone to someone, but they don’t divulge to that person how to be successful on their own. This way they remain in control and keep the power to themselves.
I’m bored with them.
The teach a man to fish saying is about teaching people to be self sufficient and reply upon themselves.
The saying is “if you give a man a fish, he eats for a meal. teach a man to fish, he feeds himself”
obviously I paraphrase.
so if you know the whole saying, the quote about Jay and Bey being sharks is quite clever.
(not directed at you kiddo, just my thoughts on the subject)
Yeah, that’s what I basically said.
right. which is why I said it wasn’t directed at you, but rather than start a new post I just added in it.
+10000.
“They know they’re the king and queen of hip-hop — and really, all of music. Neither wants to lose that.” the king and queen of all music. in their dreams right.
Come on! You’re not playing the game right! If Jay and Bey TELL you they’re the king and queen of all music, then it shall be so. If Jay TELLS you he’s a faithful husband, he must be, and if Bey tells you she had a natural pregnancy, then surely she did. You mustn’t question the King and Queen.
Yeah, right – I think their music is such crap I really can’t stand it.
Oooooooo HARRYG thanks for going there! Hope you weren’t being sarcastic. I hate their music. I DETEST their values. They soak up all this money and then use it to buy diamond bathtubs and expensive cars and pricey booze for themselves, glorifying the whole pimp lifestyle thing. Ugh.
That’s Hollywood. They made their money, they can do whatever they want with it. Unless you want to dismantle the whole Hollywood rich and famous thing then it is what it is.
I just check out these articles to see how many new pix she has taken of herself by her on staff photographer. I can’t fathom wanting to live your life in a constant costume change for photo opps … what does that say about a person?
Totally agree…the “selfie/we-need-to-take-a picture!!” phenomena is completely ruining any spontaneity in life.
Everything is a photo-op now thanks to Instagram.
and location hunting, lighting, makeup. I think the vanity would be exhausting.
And then I worry about how they deal when that interest and platform are gone or diminished. The energy put toward the staged photography is just appalling to me.
Don’t folks have better things to do than create an in-depth analysis of a marriage that matters not at all to anyone but the couple and their child? I’m all for the fun gossip, but some of these articles seem ridiculous. I don’t think any of us need investigative reporting about someone else’s marriage. Fake marriage or not, I could care less.
You do realize this is a gossip site, right? Every story is ridiculous and doesn’t *really* matter to any of us.
I give this whole gossip story a “meh”. I think everyone knows/suspects that their relationship isn’t all what it’s cracked up to be, and I honestly think if they split, most people wouldn’t care.
+1.
The only thing that really bugs me is how small Bey’s nose has become.
She did go too far, IA.
I noticed that as well, but that bottom pic makes her look fresher and more natural than I’ve seen her look in years.
I think it’s the pose, but to me in the b/w picture she does not even look like herself.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I’ve never really gotten the vibe of them being so in love. I don’t pay much attention to them, because neither of them interest me, but both of them just seem to be so disconnected to me. They always have. I don’t see them as a pair, but two separate entities.
Like when you think of Brad Pitt–you think of Angelina. And vice versa. And it’s not just because they’re together–it’s because they seem to be so into each other, year after year. But I never got that from Beyonce and Jay-Z.
Don’t know if I’m articulating it well, but…
I think I know what you mean. They don’t seem disconnected to me. I get the impression that do like each other. They kind of seem like friends that decided to marry each other.
Yes, friends that decided to marry each other. As some of us know all friendships shouldn’t become sexual.
me neither.
I get what you’re saying and I agree to some extent. The difference between Pitt-Jolie and Bey/Jay, is the Pitt-Jolie – despite they’re notorious start as a couple – were open about their relationship and never felt too above it all to discuss their lives. When Bey/Jay started dating and years after, they never went walked the red carpet together, had lunch together, or even acknowledge their relationship in public. They acted as if being together was this precious thing they want to preserve by themselves, but they were only wratcheting up the intrigue. Even now when Bey discuss Jay, she references him as “my husband.” It’s so odd and worse yet, every story sounds fake. My point is, Bey/Jay do not come off as a sincere couple.
I think they were so private cause in the beginning he was messing with other women. He finally settled down, but started up again. She is attracted to him, but not fully. With his cheated she said she was going to get hers too,
I see what you’re saying…. however I think this might be because you don’t really see them papped together or doing red carpets together that often. They are completely removed from public life, other than what they show on instagram/tumblr/whatever that’s super controlled and always shows half a picture.
The only time they’re really together is on stage. And I gotta say, if it’s all fake…. they are really good actors, cos they got everyone believin’.
People didn’t believe in the beginning and people still don’t believe.
Same here, Virg. I have never gotten that feeling that there is anything more to these two than pure business calculation.
I’ve always felt the same way. Since I learned they were together, I thought they were the fakest couple in all of the American showbiz. They look so forced and fake together.
But I don’t mind at all, tbh. I think the love they have for their brand and money is bigger than the hate they could ever develop for each other. As long as Blue Ivy lives a happy and healthy life, I don’t care.
Apparently I’m alone here but I like them. Fake as they may be, I like their product. Not so much with Jay, but I love Beyonce’s music. I went to a concert of hers once and it was incredible, maybe a tad overpriced, but I can’t deny the product was really, really good.
I think that there is a ton of truth in this story. Are they a couple a power house? Yes. Are they are brand? Yes. Was it their right to skip the KK-KW events in Paris and Italy this May especially seeing as neither event was a legally binding ceremony? Yes. Did KW lose the respect of many people for the KK thing? Yes and will continue as he rants on. Will Bey and Jay divorce at this time? No. Why should they divorce now unless one of them or both of them have side pieces and they want to go to the next level. Will they eventually divorce? Perhaps but I think they will try and keep it quiet when it does happen. But that’s just me!
Why don’t they just split and still work together , ya know like Sonny and Cher??
I think couples that can work together after a split have real love for each other. Love as in they respect each others mind and soul (as in their moral guide). They have to also be able to forgive one another for whatever happened in the marriage. I don’t think their marriage started off with those aspects. I just think it started off with the two trying to be the biggest thing in music and respect for each others work ethic. I think they liked each other because of each others work ethic.
Oh please
Anyone.of use on this blog could have wrote this article but with more information. For years there has been blind items about Jay having women on the side.
And let’s not forget about the fake baby bump,the carnage left behind after the firing of fellow members of her girl group, and the time she thought that Jennifer Hudson was below her during the making of dreamgirls.
Divorce would not be shocking especially if Jay’s alleged baby mommas are constantly threatening her brand.
Beyonce could still come out on top by playing the wronged wife to promote CD sales.
Now, if thIS story was about Posh And David Beckham, breaking-up, then I would be floored and on suicide watch because THEY are a couple who should be together FOREVHA!!!!
Yes, I love the Posh and the Pretty together.
This just proves that posh and Becks have the best PR EVA!!!
Ooh ah, is there something we should know?? LAK I know you work in media. In London…
You’re right. We did have that woman that came out as one of his mistresses. I do believe Becks has his side pieces, but there is something I love about them. I just love their family and they seem suited for each other.
Am I the only one who doesn’t care? I personally feel that Jay Z and B’s music were good (with destiny’s child and then solo), but lately, neither of their music appeals to me. They are boring to me and I don’t care whether they stay together or not. The only thing I like about this couple is that it is nice to see a big African American celebrity couple as opposed to all old white Hollywood.
Agree with you. It is also a major point to the fact that people of color need to start having a prime interest in working behind the screen and not in front. Also appeal to everyone not just one demographic.
“It is also a major point to the fact that people of color need to start having a prime interest in working behind the screen and not in front. ”
Umm, what?
Really? Beyonce would lose her brand? Her message has always been this faux empowerment message about being a strong woman. She’d spin the divorce as kicking his cheating as$ to the curb and go wild dating for a while.
And J could reiterate his 99 problems message.
This! Especially now that a child is involved. I don’t see her being the frail wilted flower waiting at home for her husband. She will want to be a role model for her daughter and want her daughter to not copy her and marry a cheater/controller, etc. I see her leaving him eventually.
Beyoncé is no angel. I believe she cheats, just like Jay Z. I don’t believe for one second that Jay Z has been faithful to Beyoncé and has had sex with only Beyoncé for the entire time they have been together. He was a major sleaze back in the day.
Agree 100%
Poor (actually rich) Beyonce. She realized she had been used.
The question is they’ll milk the separation. It’ll be epic, but not as the eventual Kimye divorce.
No they will beat out Kimye easily. I thought they were egomaniacs, but in love. I thought if anything he cheated at the beginning of them getting together. When I watched that Partition video and Yawnce video, I started to think she is doing this to keep his attention. Then after the Grammys that pushed that idea further. Then Solange happened and not immediately, but after awhile I thought he has been cheating while they have been married..only recently though. With this evidently he has been cheating throughout their marriage. I still don’t think she has been running rampid with men during marriage. Maybe had a couple of liaisons.
Tbh, I believe the split rumors because Beyoncé and JayZ are repeating the exact same pattern that mainly 90% of Hollywood does when they actually are going through the initial phase of breakup and divorce. For most celebrity couples that are on the brink of divorce the pattern goes like this.
A) Rumors begin from “sources” around them.
B) Then spotlight is shined on or exposes the height of the domestic dysfunction going on in the relationship.
C) Celeb couple: notices the spotlight and murmurings about their divorce, so they rush and do a “see the mags are lying, we’re still in love” cover up. This cover up is mostly lovey dovey, pictures of them.
D) Celeb couple( almost every one of them are guilty of this) : in the efforts to create good press, they over do their fake “we still love each other as much as we did the day we got married” press, and it’s SO noticeable that it actually fans the flame on the rumors.
E) Celeb couple; is even more irritated with each other and even exhausted from having to do all of the fake PR together that, truthfully, they’d rather jab their selves in the eyes, than continue with this façade of genuine affection, and they can no longer stand the sight of each other.
F) Celeb couple: all goes quiet from them and their camp because they have to detox themselves of their SO, and so they go to their secret respective places of living because this façade is too much work.
G) Paparazzi: the paps know it’s the old, famous “quiet before the storm” routine, even if the celebs don’t realize it themselves. Yet, this is “routine” for the paps, so they begin the big count down until the announcement of the divorce, talking to every close “source” as possible and even making up some “sources” and stories in their heads to sale.
H) Celeb couple: realizes that their charade ( keeping it together for the brand) and “old song and dance routine” (pun intended 🙂 ) isn’t working, so they begin to cut the crap and focus inwards on their failed relationship and disgust with each other. The disgust with each other is mutual, and start making the real steps towards the divorce, thus, making the famous public “the split was amicable” announcement of divorce to the press.
OMG!! This is so true. Great observations!
I agree. I also believe that they’re splitting. Usually when a couple is about to split, the source rumors continue to increase for about 3 months. Of course all couples in Hollywood have these divorce rumors in tabloids, but it’s usually sporadic (they don’t focus on it for too long).
@Taylor,
I agree with you on the key word “sporadic” because those celebrity couples whose marriage is not actually in peril allow the rumors to just fall off and before long it does because story sold by the press is a false truth. However, I do believe that a lot of rumors about breakups start when the couple’s relationship is “at risk”
and when the tabloids catch wind of it, that’s when the celebs start doing the public sightings. Yet, a celeb couple’s relationship being “at risk” doesn’t always equate to a future breakup.
Side note: My grammar is pretty bad up top, as I forgot colons and such because I was more interested in writing out my thoughts and sharing to get you guys’ take on it. 🙂
Yes I agree on the word sporadic too.
I do agree with this. The pattern in Hollywood is so very obvious sometimes. Not always, but it does happen more often than not. Not saying it is happening with this couple, but they are falling into the trap.
Yep they are falling into the trap. All of the photo ops are obvious.
YES YES YES YES…that is how it plays out ALL the time.
Hi SOZUAL ! 🙂
Hey LEAFLET!!!
You are very articulate! You literally read my mind about how these break- ups go down. I use to be more optimistic. Meeting people that have worked with entertainers and entertainers themselves, that has changed for me. Not all entertainers are crazy of course. I wish people the best, but couples like Jay-Z and Beyonce get annoying when they are always having to be in all our faces. I hope they grow after this split, whenever it happens. I hope they become focused on a moral code and being giving people, versus being all about money/fame. They need a reality check and so do their crazy fans.
I hear you Jay, I lost respect for Kanye too when he married Kim.
Split rumors would fuel their fame fire, but I can see them having separate living arrangements and public arrangements. Trouble is, stuff like that can’t be kept quiet as easily these days as it may have in the past.
True it will get out there.
Update: Yahoo’s source ‘Media Takeout’ is claiming that JayZ allegedly made a sex tape with a woman named Carmen Bryan, but this tape is supposed to be from before the started dating or get married from what I understand. Anyone else want to shed some light on this?
I think Carmen Bryan was married to Nas (sigh..I love Nas) or is the mother of his daughter.
She wrote a book shortly after the success of Karine Steffan’s (aka Superhead) tell-all book.
@ Mingy,
Thanks, geez, has he no shame? JayZ slept with his friend’s baby momma. Then to add insult to injury, he made a porno to immortalize his betrayal. This dude is sick, if this is true, and I wouldn’t put it past him either.
Dammit I wish we could just know what Solange was kicking his ass in the elevator for ! It’s all too hazy !
Does anyone believe anything that’s printed in Page Six? Or do we just pick and choose?
“There’s no bigger controller than Jay,” the source says. “She’s great, but she’d be a little lower on the totem pole if it weren’t for hooking up with him.”
WTF. Who the hell is this source? I don’t know what planet they are on, but Beyoncé is a MUCH bigger star than Jay Z. More people listen to her music and more people are into her (and gossip about her) than about him. I think at this point in their relationship, Beyoncé is the one holding Jay Z up. I think his star would have faded years ago if not for her, because as much as he’s an icon in the hip hop world, he’s just dull as dirt now.
@ Littlestar,
On “Beyoncé being bigger than JayZ”, that actually wasn’t so when Beyoncé first came out with Destiny’s Child. Jay Z was way bigger than her. Beyoncé’s career was going down slope because Destiny’s Child fans were angry at Beyoncé because her father kicked two of the originals out of the group and everyone thought of her as being a money hungry selfish prick. Then they bought in two new DC members and 1 girl was kicked out because Beyoncé’s dad wanted to make sure that she was the lead and focus and that the other girls knew that they were just backup, even Kelly. So JayZ helped rebrand Beyoncé in to what she is now, I think he may have advised her to amp up her sex appeal, but whatever the advice was, people began to respect her more as an artist because she took her relationship public with JayZ. He definitely does deserve some credit, because he help save her from a public shunning. Remember the SNL skit about being the last surviving member of DC? Lmao.
I don’t doubt that’s true and that he helped mold her career into what it is today. But I am saying that if they divorced today (as opposed to where they were 10 years ago), all of the focus would be on Beyoncé and she is by far the bigger star in their relationship right now.
I totally agree that she is way more successful now because she is more mainstream than he is. Also, she constantly markets herself to fans in the twitterverse.
I’ve never been a Bey fan, but I understand why so many are. She is talented and she’s been a hero for a lot of women. I think their marriage has always been business, based on a business contract, and lots of mutual respect…probably fondness too.
I am one of the few who think it is possible and perhaps even likely that Bey will leave him eventually because of the child(ren) involved. She has created an aura of “girl power” about herself and that won’t sit well putting up with a husband who cheat while the wife stays home with the kids. I think something happened with Gwyneth Paltrow. All of a sudden she’s just gone from them. A year ago she was going to their concerts, hanging with them at bars, having them over for parties and then just boom! It all stopped. Hmmmm…..
That maybe because Gwyneth was in that group because of Chris. He and Jay were friends so Gwyneth was apart of that.
I always thought it was interesting how there were these 3 people with big to mega success in music and yet not one of them embraced Gwyneth’s singing career. She was never invited to sing on an album. None of them seemed to help or encourage that singing interest she had; then nothing has happened since that movie she did. All that singing on Glee and Music Shows. yet again Bey never said I’m doing a song with my friend or Jay saying he would back her. I think they were humoring her because of Chris.
To be fair, Beyoncé collaborations are very very rare… it’s like the Page Six article says, J+B keep it very very exclusive…
Your fame has to be able to help them otherwise they don’t want to be bothered.
That may be because Gwyneth has her own troubles to worry about.
It surprises me that they haven’t had another kid, maybe this is why…
I agree with a comment Kaiser made before, that after the elevator incident the flood gates of hell opened and it’s become a free for all on this couple when they were untouchable. Makes me wonder what happened and if it is true or just hype. One thing is certain, she is a smart business woman who realized Jay is a king maker, just like JLo realized PDaddy is a smart man and took many cues from him.
They’ve been playing games the whole tour, with a play on words in lyrics, etc., and then the next photo op they will be all love-dovey. I hate games, and it’s like they are selling this controversy for all it’s worth for their tour. So if they do split, I don’t even care, because, first and foremost, they used it as a promotional tool to their advantage. It doesn’t exactly make me go, oh, boo-hoo for them, I’m sad. Business comes first, I guess, and so their divorce, if true or not true, has all been used to keep us guessing and get that promo during touring. Gag me.
I’m not into this couple myself, but I don’t think they expected the rumors to follow them on tour. When it did, Beyoncé started feeding the rumor mill by substituting lyrics to reflect their relationship in order to monopolize, financially, on the gossip. I certainly believe that they no longer care for each other, hence the removal of the wedding rings. No one takes off their wedding rings and remove their wedding marks (tattoos) if they don’t mean business. I’m predicting that it’s over for them, and I don’t feel sorry for them either. I don’t believe them to be truly nice people.
Or the removing of the wedding rings/tattoo could be them also feeding the rumor mill for free publicity for their tour.
@ Candy Love,
I don’t think one would remove a tattoo for a tour. She’s Beyoncé. She’s going to perform at sold out arenas regardless. A celeb of her caliber isn’t going to remove her wedding ring and TATTOO for show. The tatt that she got on her finger had to hurt. Then, having to go through the very thorough process of having it removed means their going public with the divorce and split. Their just trying to make sure their “conscious rebranding” is done correctly.
@ Leaflet I AGREE with you on ALL YOUR POSTS.
@SOZUAL,
Gee thanks, you’re too kind. You’re very articulate as well and posted some very compelling comments too. This couple annoys me as well because of their greed and shrewed buisness practices. How many times has JayZ taken advantage of naive fans and went into fake retirement only to boost album sales and to extract more money from his poor fans. These two lost their moral compass a long time ago. I doubt that this divorce will cause them to have a long, hard look at “the man in the mirror”. Fame and greed is the code that they live by, I just hope their daughter doesn’t turn out like them.
Will they break up? Probably…..some day. Are they in overdrive trying to prove they are one big, happy family? Yes. Is Solange scary now when looking at her knowing she’s capable of a beatdown? Yes.
I don’t know if they are breaking up. I just see such a shift in how they portrayed themselves. As someone said up thread they were so “private” about the dating and marriage. Now it seems they are opening the door to their personal and intimate moments. They went from never being on a RC together to doing it. They tease with pictures of the baby. I guess they have someone working with them to take all the pictures. I would have liked for them to have a photo spread with the baby and not show all those family pictures all the time.
It is funny how all of a sudden these celebs are posting the most personal moments and people criticize celebs that sell a few pictures but you don’t see their Real life personal life all over the web.
They are doing the same thing people call Kim K out on. There really is no difference is there.
I actually agree with this. They been together for years manage to keep a private life for the most part why start pimping that private life out know?
Agree with you lisa2.
Just a tad too jaded, they will stay together for the “brand”. But if he “humiliates” here aka Mick Jagger Style (groupie or model confirms she’s pregnant and has DNA proof he’s the daddy AND won’t STFU) while they are married (2014-and beyond), then she’ll divorce him since she can’t stop the gossip and the fact that he had a naked party with someone other than his wife. At that time, she’ll feel there is no other choice but to divorce him. As if all the other cheating that is “under wraps” is not “humiliating” (wtf?) Ask Jerry Hall, she was ok with Jagger “stickin” in everything that moves (including a vacuum cleaner), but as long as it was “not in her face”,nor discreet, it was no problem. Yeah, I guess it’s all fun and games till someone else gets knocked up by your husband. Scratch my head.
When you put your “brand”, your fake marriage, your spin, your sidepieces, your anything ahead of the child you had surrogated, you’re a jerk, plain and simple. BeyonceBot has peaked, IMO, and JZ will be mostly behind the scenes in the future. Poor kid.
Don’t hold your breathe for divorce for these two. and the elevator Solange brawl was the first time Beyonce found out JayZ sees other women, Please! People seem to forget JayZ is the one who had most of the money and that money give Beyonce whose singing voice is not that good a costume war chest that promote her stage presence. any mediocre singer who had that kind of money to spend on clothing, expensive hair weaves, costume designs, writers, best sound equipment could become just as big a star as Beyonce.
I don’t understand the media’s obsession with people’s marriages and pregnancies. Every marriage goes through ups and downs.. Can they leave them alone already?
You know what I am extremely sick of? All this BULLSH_T saying that Beyonce would be nowhere without Jay. I dont even like these two, particularly, but please!!! Jay is NOT the king of anything, dude doesn’t write his own raps, doesn’t even f_cking rap properly, Jay-Z f_cking sucks as a “musician” and he would be NOWHERE without Beyonce. When I was 13, had I ever heard of Jay-Z? No. But I was rocking to Destiny’s Child. And it’s not to say that I wasn’t interested in hip hop, I was a pretty big Tupac and Wutang fan at the time so you would have thought I would have heard of Jay-Z back then.
i thought that yellow backed picture was chili from tlc
you all are soooo funny
they got you all good
this thing was a fake from the start with the elevator video – promo for this tour
lolol
yeash people come on
I don’t get why people say they can’t exist without each other business wise.
Beyoncé is and always has been her Own Brand name, (even w D.Child she was Beyoncé the standout Star) she certainly doesn’t need JAyZ for continued success. JayZ also has his own brand name and he has a different audience, he will go and do his own thing, neither of these highly successful people will fall without the other. IMO
They don’t need to stay married to keep up some brand, Beyoncé is a major global brand into herself. I’m around some Europeans who don’t even realize she’s married to JayZ and they love HER.
When she came to Europe for her concert, it seemed like an a event in the proportion of a Michael Jackson concert , practically every female young,middle aged even older women, joined their friends and went to the concert and royals too in the one city I was in at the time, it was amazing seeing the draw of Beyoncé on her own in Europe.
I told someone Beyoncé is the biggest musical star in the world right now ..this was during her last tour, I was shocked at what an happening-event,her concert was for so many of the European cities she toured.
This is not a entertainer who needs someone attached to her to keep her brand.
Yes they do. He is getting too old to be running around rapping. She was the stand out of DC cause her dad made things that way, She has been doing the same thing since she went solo. Same music,same dance moves, same lyrics, and same music production. She can’t write, sing, produce, or dance. She as my Mother says just wiggles her body and she has been caught multiple times stealing dance moves. One celebrity does not catch the same amount of attention as two. That is a fact. With the over saturation of celebrities and not having to pay to see them, cause you can just go on the internet, the one name icon is about to go extinct. They are one name Bey – Z. They both do the same thing in their act. Times are changing and you can flow with the tide or fight it. If you want to be adorned when you are gone you have to just put out the best work you can. Trying to be number 1 is mute these days with regular people to fan for and being able to go online to find music outside of the U.S. Beyonce is no better than any other entertainer out there. There are entertainers better than her, because they can actually sing. She will always make money, but not what she has been making.
“…the source says Beyonce was into Jay’s mind…” ofcourse she was/is cos Jay Z is so bland looking. This is harsh but Jay’s only redeeming feature is his fame and money.
Don’t give a rat’s a** if they divorce or not.
I still believe Bey is b**ging The Bodyguard, more so now for ‘warm’ comfort.
Cant stand Beyonce. How dare she desicrate Rosie the Riveter!