TMZ has been getting all of the scoops on Mama June. The first bombshell is that June seemed to be spending a lot of time with a convicted child molester following her recent split with Sugar Bear, her now-estranged husband. At the time, there were stories that Sugar Bear was fooling around, but now it seems like June was getting involved with a man named Mark McDaniel. TMZ had a photo of them together and they claimed it was taken recently. McDaniel is currently on the sex-offender registry because he molested a young girl, and he only recently completed a 10-year prison sentence following his conviction for child molestation.
As it turns out, the girl McDaniel molested was June’s daughter Anna. Anna, now 20 years old, confirmed that McDaniel had molested her when she was eight and that she “would feel hurt” if June was really with McDaniel now. Anna told People: “I’m just confused. I’m hearing one story from Mama and another one from someone else.” June insists – publicly and privately – that she’s not dating McDaniel. After June’s explicit denials, TMZ has been running stories and photos of June and McDaniel together – they apparently went house-hunting recently and June bought McDaniel a used Nissan and had it delivered to his house.
In the midst of all of this drama, TLC canceled Here Comes Honey Boo Boo. It seems like TLC didn’t even wait to see hard evidence of June’s relationship with McDaniel, or maybe TLC executives just took TMZ’s info at face value. Or maybe they know more than they’re letting on. Child Services has also been contacted. It doesn’t seem like this is the kind of situation where fans of the show are going to rally around this family, and there won’t be some Duck Dynasty-esque politicization of the situation. I think we can all agree: if June is with this guy – and it’s looking pretty clear that she is – this is a really awful situation and June’s children need to be safe.
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She should have her children taken away for this.
Agreed. This is sickening, not only in regard to her daughter who was already victimized, but also for the potential for something to happen to the others. I mean, this says it all: “Cardwell also says that after McDaniel was arrested, Shannon was skeptical of her story about being molested. A week or so after it happened, I talked to Mama and she was upset, crying and saying, ‘I don’t believe you, I don’t believe you, why would you do this to me?’ ” Cardwell says.”
So horrid to imagine any mother would choose a disgusting pervert over her own child/ren.
But how is this guy even allowed around her minor children, seeing as how he’s a registered sex offender? Wouldn’t that be a violation of some sort of law?
He’s not allowed around them. That’s why child services has gotten involved. I hope they actually do something about the situation. I think Anna was mostly raised by a relative after the molestation so maybe the children can go live with that person since June obviously is unable to take care of them properly.
I just left working in mental health for 12 years. Saw a few hundred girls who had been molested. Mama June is doing what about 75% of my clients families did. Oh he’s sorry, it won’t happen again, he only fondled you, let’s move on, you stole my husband. I could go on for days.
The sad thing is that women choose perverts over their children every day. Most children are molested by people they know, especially their mother’s boyfriends and husbands. Many of these mothers have strong suspicions that something inappropriate is occurring between their partner and their children but would rather turn a blind eye because they don’t care enough about their children or are too dependent on these men to get out.
I agree with Joy. I did a stint a few years ago using writing as a therapeutic tool for mental health patients in a lockdown unit at a hospital, and I saw the same thing. The most egregious case I remember: a young woman, aged 22, who had attempted suicide and almost succeeded. After she recovered physically, she spent a month in the in-patient mental health unit, which is where I met her. Over a course of sessions, she told me her stepfather had molested both her and her sister years earlier when they were very small. The man had been convicted and sent to prison, had stayed incarcerated for five years, and then when he got out of prison, the mother had reunited with him – and since she was forbidden to have him around the two daughters he had molested, she GAVE UP both daughters and they spent the rest of their childhood in foster care. I couldn’t count the number of suicidal females I encountered who had similar stories. They never got over the feeling of worthlessness, having been essentially told by their own mothers that they were to be valued less – and loved less – than their molester.
Men aren’t the only ones capable of rape or molestation. Don’t throw one gender under bus without at least acknowledging females are just as capable please. That’s not fair to victims with female attackers by just throwing it on the men.
Also, it’s incredibly messed up sex offenders only get sentenced to a few years while a harsher sentence is handed down for lesser crimes. Sickening.
@Dommy Dearest – yes, women are just as capable. Look at the numbers, though – guess what? WOMEN DON’T MOLEST CHILDREN ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS MEN DO. Even though they can! Woah!
@hippo: I would suggest holding your sarcasm. How can you get snippy on a subject such as this? Are you aware that when the women are the predators it goes unreported a lot of the times? Ranges from shame on the victims part to the victim not realizing it’s abuse. My thirteen year old male cousin was molested by his babysitter and until he was older he didn’t realize it was abuse and due to the statue of limitations being expired he wasn’t able to press charges. So like I said, mind your sarcasm and have some compassion.
lots of women don’ t report abuse and rapes as well for the same reason, Dommy. I am sorry about your cousin, and yes, women can do it, but they just don’ t do it just as much as men. even with all those unreported cases you mention, I have a hard time believing that the number of female child molesters and male victims is anywhere near the one of the male child molesters and female victims!
There may be a high number of male predators to female predator, I never said it wasn’t like that. All I’m saying is don’t get more offended against men when women are capable of the same thing. So equal disgust, and no type of gender bashing even though this is a perfect thread for ‘men are so messed up’. There’s just been a common, constant theme anytime a story is reported that a female was the predator there’s never ‘she’s evil and filth’ (stuff said to the degree it’s said when a male is the predator) because people don’t view women as capable predators- least in the media that is.
@ Dommy: I have no idea where in this thread you saw someone throw men under the bus. If I’m reading the posts correctly, everyone was in agreement that the mothers in these situations are often just as messed up even if they’re not the ones directly abusing their daughters. So where did that even come from??? Nobody “got more offended against men”. As for the “she’s evil and filth” comment, women get a lot of that being victims though. So let’s calm down on the men vs. women front.
I see what you’re saying and I never meant the angle of make vs female victims. I’m mobile so there’s a good chance I hit reply on the wrong comment because when i originally commented there was something said about men being the only people that did this sort of thing. I may have commented in the wrong spot and subsequent comments were in reply to others.
Disgusting story about a disgusting person. For the safety of the children, I hope they are removed from the home immediately.
Someone needs to get Mama June into intensive therapy stat. If her self-esteem is so low that it is driving her to make these kinds of dangerous decisions then her kids aren’t safe even if she breaks if off with this perv. I’ve never seen the show, but I really feel for those kids. Their lives are going to be torn apart.
I am so sick of these careless parents!
TMZ has pictures of Mama June, the molester and Honey Boo Boo. I guess her children will be taken away from her. Perhaps, she just doesn’t understand what a child molester is…. I can’t understand this situation at all.
I don’t think he is restricted, something about Georgia law and timing of this
otherwise, he’d have been back locked up by now.
I am having so much trouble wrapping my head around this. I mean, this guy molested her own daughter and she is still talking to him, let alone dating him and letting him around her kids again? Whaaaaat?
I’ve not seen much of the show, so I can’t comment on anyone’s level of intelligence or whatnot, but I would hope that a grown woman would know when to keep a predator away from her children.
My friend works with CPS in Florida and has seen this before, she’s said she’s always amazed when the mother will choose the husband/BF over the child.
I watched the first season and I am deeply disturbed by this. But it may explain some things- June refused to marry Sugar Bear and frankly, she didn’t even seem to like him..maybe she was just waiting for this creep to get out of jail so she could be back with him?
Also, her denial about dating him was oddly worded. She specifically said that she was not dating a “child molester”, she didn’t say “I’m not dating McDaniel.” To me that says she is 100% dating him, she just doesn’t believe he’s a child molester
I cannot wrap my mind around this in any way. I can’t think of a word to call her that would describe how awful she is for doing this. POS doesn’t even begin.
This actually happened to my sisters and I. My moms boyfriend was a huge pervert. When I was 12 he picked me up and held me up over his head and looked up at me while I screamed that he put me down. We would catch him watch us getting dressed. Finally my youngest sister, 7 at the time told us he touched her. CPS got involved my mom kicked him out and acted appalled. Then about 5 months later he was right back in the house again. Shes still with him to this day. She claims shes “not sure” my sister was telling the truth and that it might have gotten blown out of proportion. Its a pretty horrible situation all around and VERY confusing to me even now.
@snarkysnarker I’m so sorry about what happened to you and your sister. I hope you both found peace.
@snarkysnarker, I second what @sally said. I hope you and your sister truly believe that neither of you are to blame, that you didn’t blow anything out of proportion, and that your mom was wrong for choosing her bf over protecting her daughters.
Snarky, I’m really sorry this happened to you, your sister, your family and the current situation with your mother still standing by his side – that is so very troubling. My mom did the same thing and there was no confusion on her part. She accepted what he did to me, but stayed. I left. They divorced 5 years later when she could no longer put up with the emotional abuse he inflicted on her. She didn’t leave because of what he did to me. You can’t understand your mother and you never will. I’m 45 and I still don’t undertand my mother. This type of woman is unnatural – something is missing, so we’ll never understand them. They are selfish beyond belief, have their priorities screwed up, and have terrible self-esteem. My mom thought he still loved her. He never loved her. He was just a user and frankly, I’m convinced he married her just to get to me. We want to scream at them “where is the horror? Hhow can you even speak to him again let alone “lie” with him?” But, they don’t feel that way. They are so afraid of being alone, they are somehow able to compartmentalize and justify these men’s desires and behavior. We can’t understand it because we’re normal.
I am sorry to hear this snarkysnarkers. 🙁 I am sorry for your mother’s weakness.
Maybe, if anything good can come of the horrendous example this family makes, is that a conversation can be opened and women who choose these men over their children can learn something. I can’t even imagine how often this actually happens, and it sickens me to think that that means there are so many children being molested no one will ever know about, or be able to help.
Thanks for everyones kind words! Its really sweet and comforting 🙂
I also saw that picture , this is the most d*mning piece of evidence out of them all – he’s touching honey boo boos back for Pete’s sake!!!! I’m glad tmz for once hasn’t let something go and has been determined to get to the bottom of it because June has clearly been lying. I hope CPS gets involved and takes the children from her , maybe then they will have a chance at normal healthy childhood.
I think Honey Boo Boo should be taken away from her mother, I read that this isn’t the first child molester June has been with and her bf has molested other children as well. I’m glad the show has been cancelled and that TLC is offering counselling to the children.
All the minors should be moved over to Anna’s (If she can handle that) and given a nice chunk of change from TLC for allowing this to go on so long. They obviously know quite a bit and likely have for some time if they’re willing to shut down one of their cash cows and offer the kids therapy.
I wonder if June was abused as a kid and this is why this seems like the norm to her – or if she’s just in complete denial that she brought in a danger to her children.
Honestly, me neither.
I feel terrible for those children and hope they are pulled out of this situation before it is too late
I think the best situation is for the molester to go back to jail. I don’t know that the system helps children. There are very few success stories of children who are mentally stable, healthy and financially solvent that were “helped” by CPS.
Its absolutely disgusting!! They have picture of June, the guy, and honey boo boo together!!! That alone should send McDaniel back to jail or something! But forget McDaniel, what kind of mother knowingly would put her daughters in danger? Especially a guy who hurt her older daughter? I don’t want to sound mean but she probably thinks she won’t get a man, or that she’s to ugly, and he is just taking advantage of the idiot!!!
What’s crazy is one of her other daughters father is in jail for the same thing so she clearly has a past with more than one CONVICTED child abusier/ molester.
Wow..that’s incredibly disturbing.
Amazing to me that she would endanger her children and risk her entire livelihood on this sh*tbag.
Oh yikes. She’s got some serious issues, and needs to seek help for herself. There’s a reason she’s with men like that.
I defended June a lot. The family is pretty awful with hygiene, nutrition, and education, but her parenting and family bond was amazing. She wouldn’t put up with her daughter bullying another on fb. She didn’t spend her children’s income and instead invested and saved it. And lived within her budget. All this while the world was pretty much laughing at her family in the worst way, but it didn’t seem to get to her. She appeared comfortable with herself and that was refreshing to see.
This though. I’m done. She’s awful. Convicted of this crime that is fairly hard to convict to begin with and she brings him into close and trusted quarters with her young daughter? She needs help and someone needs to step in before this man hurts another child.
Maybe we better wait for more reliable sources and a more coherent story, I’m seeing too many conflicting claims about this. I remember June saying a long time ago that one of the kid’s fathers turned out to be something (can’t remember how she out it, pervert? Sex offender? Child molester?) and wasn’t involved with her or the kid any more. I read comments attributed to Anna that this guy was convicted for molesting another child, not her; that might mean there wasn’t enough evidence to convict and it never got to court or that he was acquitted. Anna actually lived with her grandmother most of the time, supposedly, but that might also be inaccurate.
try to imagine the betrayal that young lady feels from her MOTHER…her MOTHER who is supposed to be a child’s unconditional protector and ally.
yeah…she’s putting her youngest daughter at risk…disgusting…
but what about her daughter who was victimized by this disgusting puke of a man?
how does she heal at all when her own mother chooses him over her?
@FLORC– I’m with you on this. I was also a Mama June apologist– I thought she was a smart, solid Mom with some poor food and health decisions, and perhaps had poor choices in the past (with men, 4 diff baby daddy) but now had what I thought was a solid family.
I didn’t know about any of this, that another child’s father was also incarcerated for child molestation, and that her eldest child just recently moved back into the house for the show.
I’ve seen and heard about mothers who pick their child molesting lovers over their children, but what really really shocks me is the pattern– 2 out of the 4 children have been molested and one of her baby’s fathers is also in custody for the same crime… Like, talk about looking for and being prayed upon a specific predator. Truly scary stuff.
This is really upsetting. I never cared for this family but I had heard June was responsible with money and setting it aside for her girls’ futures. This has to be the ultimate betrayal for her poor daughter. She should absolutely lose custody of Alana.
Agreed!
That is what she said but who knows if that is even true. She straight up lied that she has not talked to this molester in ten years let alone seen him and has no intention of seeing him all the while there were photographic evidence of her in bed with him, him touching her young daughter. So I wouldn’t put much stock in what she says.
Agreed! If she was buying 2 nissans (one for this pos), at least that part of the money isn’t going to her girls’ future at all.
Gah! This is so wrong.
@Itsnotthatserious – Yes, June can’t be trusted.
I just watched June’s Facebook video message about their show being canceled. She specifically said she’s not “dating” McDaniel, so I’m thinking she’s trying to be ‘clever’ with her words because obviously she’s been seen in his company along with his son and her daughters. She didn’t use the word “been/seen with” or anything similar to that. So I guess that was her way of having an out if and when she got caught lying.
She also said that TLC told her and her family to “Hush, Hush.” If this is true, shame on TLC if McDaniel was the reason for them canceling the show. If this is just another of June’s lies, then it’s just another example of her deceitfulness.
She said things happen for a reason, you live and learn. What does this mean? What did she learn? That because she wasn’t secretiveness enough you get fired? She learned nothing else?
What strikes me odd is her demeanor when telling the world she lost her job. She’s very calm, not outraged. If she truly thought she had done nothing wrong, then she’d have been angry at TLC, imo.
Same here! I always thought they were repulsive but chalked that up to a lot of bias from a few years of living near Appalachia. But that family at least seemed somewhat grounded.
I mean, I kind of figured there’d be a scandal at some point, but I always expected it to be a funny one everyone could mock. Like Sugar Bear getting huge teeth. Or Mama June losing 200 pounds on a ketchup-only diet and writing a book about it.
But this … you know it happens, but seeing it unravel is something else. As someone said on another board: You can be uneducated white trash, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have morals.
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This made me want to cry. I am so tired of reading about children being molested and abused. So very, very tired of it. The world is such a dark, dark place and it terrifies me.
Where is Honey boo boo’s real Father? I don’t watch the show, so I dunno who the dad is, but can’t he come get her?
After reading all about this over the last couple of days, it has been affecting my sleep to the point that when I was able to drift off last night, I dreamed of nothing but this. Never even watched anything with them in it. As a mother, how can she do this? What sway does he hold over her? HOW do you choose this monster over your own child???
And to subject her other young children to his presence. My goodness. No sleep again tonight.
Just beyond disgusting, Charlotte. How could any mother do this to her daughter who was molested? The ultimate betrayal. And to put her young daughter in such danger. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. I will never understand, never.
You said it, Goodnamesalltaken. Disgusting, and beyond ALL comprehension. Charlotte, I agree it’s SO disturbing. I knew a mother who actually slept with her daughter’s husband, and I thought THAT was the ultimate betrayal, but this is much worse even: she’s knowingly putting her own CHILD in harm’s way to be molested. Every bit complicit in any abuse: ugh.
I’ve read this story and it is beyond twisted.
How could she ever be near him after what he did to her oldest daughter and allow him anywhere near her youngest?
She has to be sick.
So sick. I said it here first, how much you want to bet Dr. Phil will be having a special with this family in 3,2,1…
Just when I thought humanity couldn’t sink any lower, I hear about this sh*t. I honestly cannot comprehend this situation.
My ex-boss is marrying a sex offender and she is wondering what the fuss is all about. Seriously.
Husbands cousin just married a guy who beat on my best friends step son years ago. I’m not sure she/anyone else in the family knows about this. But guy was at our wedding while the kids dad was there, (I didn’t know any of this until the wedding day) and I’m so impressed that my friends husband didn’t beat the crap out of him. Luckily this had all happened years prior so I believe my friend’s husband had already ‘sorted’ things out. But honestly. This woman married a guy who used to beat on children, and has a son herself. Every time I see the son I kind of take a peek to see if he has any marks or anything.
Oh dear. Does she have children? These women need to realize that pedophiles are not above dating lonely, single mothers specifically to gain access to children. The world is full of Humbert Humberts.
Yes Deb she does. They all hate him. And her.
I think TLC must know for sure- that show made money for them, they wouldn’t cancel it over just a rumor.
That is incredibly disturbing, especially considering there are still young children in the family. The poor older daughter must feel so betrayed.
I kind of think they may have known earlier – how could the crew not have seen any of this while they filmed in Aug/Sept?
if that comes out, that they looked the other way until TMZ…look out!
I think you’re right. The pic of them in bed and the reason given is an easy out for them. It’s not something that shows get cancelled over though. They knew of this for some time i’m betting and got out before it hit the fan.
I agree. TLC moved too quickly to cancel a money-making show.
I read that once they saw the picture of them together in bed, they decided to cancel the show. The offer to get the kids counseling came after Anna went public about her being the one the monster woman was connected to.
Didnt TLC look into her background Before the show or did they look past it to make money? This is so disgustingly sad.
I feel so bad for the children, those poor children.
Unreal.
Christ – I don’t know what to say.
Hopefully situations like this one will start to turn the table on reality television. From a man murdering his wife on that dating show that never went to air, to the cringe worthy Jersey Shore that exploited booze, the “smush” room, and plain poor taste, Kate Gosselin and her iron fist narcissism, the Kardashians and their exploitation of everything to make a dime, and so on and so on and now this, a back woods family that looked and spoke odd at the expense of a chubby little girl and her nasty attitude to her mother who has the audacity to feign innocence of a man who abused her daughter. Stop the madness, make this woman pay the consequence of her sins and…..stop reality television….I’m sure actors who went to school or chose acting as their profession may now starting get jobs.
Yeah, the gist of your comment is my takeaway. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. They pick out people based on stereotypes and dysfunction, look for drama and then it blows up.
I’ve never watched this show. I sincerely could never understand the draw. I’m equally disgusted with TLC and all the other channels who put out this absolute sh*t, as I am with this family, maybe more so.
Absolutely, it’s all about the money, isn’t it always? TLC picks the freakiest people to exploit to make us “normal” people laugh and think how good we have it. Ryan Seacrest quietly sits back and pulls in millions for putting the then relatively unknown Kardashians on the air fresh off Kimmies sex tape scandal, I guess that’s what they called it in 07. God I’m in a pissy mood, must be the Monday thing or something!
No, you speak truth, Gina.
Gina, networks will stop producing “reality” shows when the ratings–and advertising rates–drop, and only then. Reality shows are relatively cheap to produce when compared to an hour-long drama, which can cost millions per episode.
Only when the numbers balance out in favor of the studios canceling these shows will they move away from this kind of programming. It’s all about the money.
Why is reality popular? Because it makes money. It used to be harmless and fun but people need more and more to make their own life more bearable by laughing at dysfunctional people. And subsequently complaining when they make more money than us. It’s called ‘hatewatch’. Entertaining right? Then when it goes too far, we think we can blame the makers when in fact, it’s us, the public that has a high demand for such shows. People love it and they love to hate it.
Not at all included in that demographic.
Neither am I. *high fives Kiddo*
Me ether
Nor am I.
I make it a hand…..we have five fingers up here…agreeing with Kiddo.
You know who should get a reality show? Neil deGrasse Tyson. Imagine a reality show focusing on the life of a prominent professor, a man who advocates for reason and education. I’d watch that show all day long.
Or how about a show about the people who work at the SETI array? What are they up to? They’re probably an interesting, eccentric lot.
Yo Yo Ma? The life of a world class musician?
Backstage at the New York Ballet!
One year with the Royal Shakespeare Company!
Inside the House of Chanel! We’d all watch Krusty Karl and Choupette, his feline daughter of privilege, destroy assistants and models as he runs one of the most successful fashion brands in the world.
There are so many ways in which reality TV could be interesting and illuminating, and yet we keep using it to spotlight illiterate hicks.
Real TV channels already do that, and they have for years. They’re called documentaries.
I doubt Dr. Tyson would want to subject his wife and children to that.
@Kiddo
That’s what I mean. Networks like TLC, History Channel, Discovery, et al should be showing more documentaries. If they need to give it the “gloss” of a reality show, pick a person and make a show about that person, instead of covering a broad topic. It depresses me that this junk has replaced anything resembling intelligent programming on networks that were once educational.
@HughJass
With someone as smart and interesting as Dr. Tyson, you wouldn’t need to see his family. They should just air a show of his university office hours and we’d all be 10 pts smarter.
YES! I 100% agree. History channel might as well change their name to HIllbilly Channel (plus repeats of M*A*S*H). I can’t stand any of the junk shows, like American Pickers (who both seem like complete a$$holes) and Junky Douchebag Cars or whatever.
Remember when TLC was “The Learning Channel” and they used to show neat stuff like “Connections”? good times, but over now….:(
@ Algernon
( ” should be showing more documentaries. If they need to give it the “gloss” of a reality show, pick a person and make a show about that person, instead of covering a broad topic. It depresses me that this junk has replaced anything resembling intelligent programming on networks that were once educational.” )
TLC used to be like that back in the day. They had some really great and informative documentaries and that’s actually how Toddlers and Tiaras started. It was a documentary on an in depth look on what parents would do and go through for these pageant. It got really great rating / public interest and they ended up do a reality show on it.
I really miss those days some of my favorites was Adoption story and the documentary on the Mermaid Girl may she R.I.P it’s sad to see what TLC has become.
And remember BRAVO started out showing performing arts broadcasts and independent films. Used to have great programming, stuff you’d never see elsewhere.
Neil deGrasse Tyson actually has an amazing show called Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey that’s currently on Netflicks. It’s Executive producer is Seth MacFarlane of all people. My husband, 6 year old son and I are currently watching this as our go to show when we want to watch something we all agree on. It’s a reality show about the reality of our Universe VS. a show watching some brat who things they are the best thing in the Universe.
BRAVO use to be a wonderful channel for the Arts and documentaries on historical figures in the Arts, Litierature, innovators in business, science, art.
TLC and the History Channel were amazing at one point, now its mostly all crap.
I stopped watching.
P.S. was Bravo formerly part of Arts & Entertainment network?
How on earth could a mother want a child molester near her young kids? June is disgusting.
Look at her, she is a beast. What decent man would want her?
Well, if child molesters, serial killers and murderers (all male) can get dates, her looks really shouldn’t be an issue now, should they?
These men were probably more interested in her daughters. I’m absolutely disgusted. And to see pics of them house hunting, when the family stayed in that tiny little house by the train tracks? And now this POS is going to benefit from the girls’ earnings? Just awful.
I may be reading your comment wrong Ann, but the all male has me side eyeing it. Are you saying only men are capable of that? I’m side eyeing cause that insults victims whose attacker has been female. If that’s not what you meant, my bad.
Ann, I was not just referring to her looks.
What a shocker. The TV show exploiting how hilarious it is to be a family that’s ill mannered, obese, uneducated and trashy end up being….well…super trashy! And on to the next one TLC. Wouldn’t it be amaking if they actually had footage of them being together but cut ties before news broke.
Because she doesn’t believe he’s a child molester
It would be a huge, huge mistake to assume that only ugly women would date a child molester. It would also be a mistake to assume that only white trash would date a child molester (or BE a child molester), or that money and looks and good manners and class make it impossible for someone to be – or date, or marry – a child molester.
I grew up in a home where the ‘father figure’ helped himself to me and my sister. My mother knew – they always do – and did nothing. I do not understand it at all. Even now, decades later, it mystifies me how my mother could have turned a blind eye to that. To this day, she ‘rationalizes’ that he was just ‘curious’.
I guess some mothers are just missing the basic mother ‘chip’. I don’t know. I love my mother and I forgive her: but I still don’t believe for a second that she thinks she did anything wrong –
i’m so sorry you experienced that and am glad you know what he did was WRONG.
you have a bigger heart than i do, i wouldn’t be able to forgive my mom and her justifications would enrage me.
and you are so right, some mothers (and fathers) are just missing that basic chip. and predators seek those people out.
Enraged was exactly how I felt reading she described it as ‘just curious’ Guess it’s a good thing he wasn’t ‘just curious’ about murder huh?
Through an awful childhood, you have learned to love and forgive, things that will make you a far better person than your mother. I am sorry that happened to you. Big hugs!
JEM how did you manage to forgive your mother? Serious question. I was abused by my mother and I am still furious about it decades later. And she considers herself a WONDERFUL mother.
You forgive not for THEM, you forgive for yourself. That kind of hate and anger and fear just binds you up and like cancer, just destroys you from within.
And when it comes to your parents, you need to try and make peace with them, if it’s at all possible, before they die. It’s important that you part on good terms, if you can.
Belle
I too was abused both verbally and physically by my mother and maternal grandmother. My grandmother died when I was in 8th grade and my mother seemed to get worse as I got older. I do not and never will have a relationship with her. She was never a mother figure to me….that being said, I believe she is mentally ill and also a victim of abuse at the hands of her mother. I will never forgive her for what she subjected me to but I’m not angry anymore. I’ve come to terms with her also being a victim of abuse and mentally ill and at a very young age made a promise to myself that the cycle would stop with me. I never had a child because I was terrified I would turn into my mother and could never subject a child to my childhood.
In regards to this honey boo boo situation. I’ve never watched the show but after reading this all over the net, and looking at the mothers actions, I would not be surprised to find out the mother was abused. I think her weight may be a wall she has built around her to make herself immune to the pain she suffered. She is just in denial – as many who have been or witnessed – abuse was a reality of her life.
That’s absolutely awful, Jem. Like Poppy said, you are a far bigger than I to forgive your mother.
“Just curious”? Holy sh*t that is just insult to injury.
Also, I hope that dude is in jail..?
He’s dead.
About 10 years ago, mother called me up and told me he’d had a heart attack, meet her at the hospital. All the way there, I’m chanting: “PLEASE DIE. PLEASE DIE. PLEASE DIE.” He died before I got there. I have absolutely no guilt about that; he took so much from me and my family. I started getting better that day and more and more every day since.
Thats pretty much the situation I explained in my comment above. I really don’t think my mom believes she did anything wrong. When I found out he touched my sister I waited for him to come home with a crowbar. My mom of course ushered me out of the house but I was literally ready to kill him and go to jail at 17. Recently he got arrested for soliciting a prostitute and my mom acted surprised and hurt. I tried to have sympathy but I really just don’t. Where was the sympathy for us growing up feeling scared and uncomfortable in our own house? I think my mom just writes it off as we just just didn’t get along or something. She really plays everything down when I’ve tried to bring it up over the years.
Yes, that’s typical – that denial. I cannot understand it at all, and never will, but I can certainly relate. And I’ve seen it, too, within my own family and also in another woman – a friend, who had a “bad boyfriend” move in with her and her 6-year old daughter. It was just mind boggling, how she would rationalize his shady behavior. And when her daughter inevitably came to her about the guy touching her – she blamed it on her ex, who she decided must have “coached” the daughter to lie about it… which was just… I don’t know. It’s just inexplicable, that level of denial. Some women are natural enablers when it comes to pedos. You can’t wait for your mother to ‘see’ it; she will likely never validate your victimhood. These guys know how to pick out the women who will provide them with thier victims. Good luck and God bless…
Thanks Jem. Glad you finally found some peace! I’m married to a great guy, live in another city and thought it was behind me but since this whole “prostitute” thing happened I’ve been having nightmares again. The worst is having flashbacks when Im with my husband and having to tell myself over and over its not him, its my husband. Ugh. There is definitely evil people in this world who prey on kids and its sickening. I really hope the kids are taken away from her.
Jem I am so sorry you had to go through that and am so impressed at your ability to forgive your mother and try to heal. You are definitely a better person than I.
That’s heartbreaking. As a mother, I can’t imagine putting my children second. The denial is probably your mothers attempt at self preservation and coping. If she lets guilt seep in…she may not be able to live with herself. All the best to you.
Its because she knows she is responsible for this and can’t accept it. She’s that selfish. I’m nauseated.
my heart goes out to you, jemm.
Not sure how younshould the strength to forgive her, but if it has given you some peace, more power to you!
i don’t have that capacity.
I’m amazed at your strength. You’re right that the forgiveness is for YOU and no one else. Sex offenders know exactly what women to prey on that will turn a blind eye to the obvious. It’s sad but true. Sounds like this is what June is doing which is why I’m glad that tmz exposed this. They all need counseling.
Mothers who look the other way were likely victims themselves.
I wonder what part Sugar Bear has played in all this? The timing suggests that June dumped him for the perv and he went screeching to TMZ!
I do remember her saying that she was kicked out of the house as a teenager and she had Anna pretty young like either she was already pregnant or got pregnant soon after but idk. I’d guess that having someone around is her way to cope, I mean four kids from four fathers.
ETA: Four kids from four fathers meaning she was/is looking for love and acceptance from anywhere.
I really do not have the words Jem but I am glad you are doing better.
I never thought she was the sharpest tool in the shed, but I thought she was smarter and higher above this. Wow, is all I have to truly say. I personally know people who have been in similar situations as Anna, I hope her mother sees the light, and my best wishes to Anna and healing. This will open up old wounds for her.
She is definitely cooking on the 50’s Little Lady Electric Range, she’s obviously not all there. Doesn’t TLC do their homework. Are they assuming because she’s somewhere out there, she too, can’t have a past, that has now slipped into her future. Like I said before, these shows producers are money making pigs and try to sweep their mess under the rug once exposed. Firing her is the first step, now the legal system comes into play. TLC and company, however, will just pull another of the walking wounded from the crowd and keep counting their money.
Thats my Question too….
What did TLC know and When did they know it?
Did they ignore all the signs and info on her because the show was a success?
This woman is obviously not exactly all there on some level.
Surely a background check was done on all of the people on the show and even the children.
I worked for a TV network at one point and the first thing they did after I got past the interview was a background check.
Surely TLC knew something of this woman’s past.
I can’t stand mothers who put men ahead of their children and care more about keeping a man happy rather than their children and making sure they’re safe.
I read that the new guy Mark was actually convicted for molesting another child a year after he was accused of molesting June’s daughter and the conviction wasn’t actually connected to her which makes me wonder how many other children have their been that he could’ve possibly molested. And I also read that June’s ex, the father of one of her daughters is also in prison right now in connection to child molestation charges. It seems like there’s a pattern appearing with her and her men which is quite disgusting tbh.
I DON’T want to protect her, I just guess she has been abused, too. I bet there is some history in this family.
And does this woman really think it matters if she is dating this guy or not? She is friends with him, she is on good terms with that pervert. With a man who is not only a child molester, but one of his victims was her own daughter!!! That is beyond disgusting and sad. I feel so sorry for all of her kids – the daughter who was and still is his victim and has to deal with the fact, that her abuser is more important to her mother than she is. And the other girls – I don’t know how old they are and what might happen to them.
“And does this woman really think it matters if she is dating this guy or not? She is friends with him, she is on good terms with that pervert. With a man who is not only a child molester, but one of his victims was her own daughter!!!”
Agreed. If, god forbid, someone abused my daughter, I think the only thing that would keep me from killing them myself would be the knowledge that doing so would land me in jail—and my daughter would NEED me.
I just can’t comprehend this story.
ANNA – yes. It is actually incredibly difficult to convict a child molester! The child has to testify and/or be grilled by psychiatrists (some parents won’t put their child through this) and even then the defense will argue that the child was confused or making up stories. This guy must have done something very bad and very obvious.
EXACTLY! To get 10 years the evidence had to be very, very damning. They usually get less than 10.
He was never convicted of molesting Anna–this should be changed in the article. The grand jury decided not to go forward with the case involving Anna. He was convicted of molesting another young relative of Shannon’s. None of this makes what he did any better or what she is doing any better.
I saw that in the news yesterday that the charges re Anna were ‘dismissed’. I was wondering why on Earth would they not go forward with the charges. Do you know? Maybe Anna succumbed to pressure from her mother?
I hope we have some answers from the state of Georgia by the end of the day on this.
They owe an explanation as to why this pedo is allowed to TOUCH this little child.
He hasn’t touched anyone inappropriately… yet. And, the law can’t just throw someone in jail for being near kids unless the courts have ordered that they stay away.
The state of Georgia cannot comment on this unless he is charged with new offenses. If he was required to register and did so and is observing any other requirements, such as checking in with a parole officer than he probably is in compliance with controlling laws unless new charges are brought. It is not as if he was found loitering around a school or playground. The child’s mother has knowingly consented to a convicted child molester being near her children and there are no laws against that. The child’s father, however, could seek to intervene or the state child services could review the situation but would do so without fanfare. At this point, the child’s mother is answerable for allowing him to touch the child’s back, not the state.
And I cannot forgive her for exposing her children to this.
that father needs to get those kids out of that house
if he doesn’t someone else needs to intervene. this is disgusting.
he did register
Georgia says NO on the predator question
and No on assigning a “level”
I guess they think he’s ok
lolo un f’ing believable
@Ga.Law, a jury or a judge would have made the decisions on whether he met the classification of a predator. It generally requires more than one conviction. If he did time, no, they don’t think he is okay. The scary part is that juries are far more lenient than judges, especially when it comes to releasing convicts who have met the classification of “predator.”
I studied crime and legal sociology in college and even I am shocked that one of the conditions of his punishment and/or release did not stipulate that he have no contact with the victim or her family, which would have included any vulnerable minor children related to Anna and therefore would have protected Alana from this guy and also would have prevented this sick romance from happening between June and the McDaniel. It’s a pretty standard requirement in sex abuse situations even when the victim wasn’t a minor. He doesn’t have to be classified as a predator to at least have this in place. Unfortunately terrible parental decisions are common in cases of sex abuse (even to the point of knowingly giving predators access to one’s own children), and these stipulations are intended to protect children even from the people who are supposed to be protecting them and failing miserably, like June.
@Shannon – It’s because McDaniel wasn’t convicted of molesting Anna. Her case got dismissed. He was convicted of doing this to another little girl.
Just want to point out that he wasn’t convicted for molesting Anna. He was convicted for molesting another little girl. Anna’s case was dropped. (My guess is that the monster mother pressured her to not testify since she was dating him at the time!)
This is beyond disgusting and not only should he go back to jail, she should lose custody of all of her minor children. I thought that she had a good head on her shoulders from the stories I had read about her saving a nest egg for each child and not living beyond their means, but nothing excuses being with the man who molested her daughter! I hope that CPS acts quickly since there is at least one picture of the convict with Alana.
It wouldn’t surprise me if she did pressure Anna not to testify based on how she reacted to Anna telling her that she was molested by McDaniel:
From the People article: “A week or so after it happened, I talked to Mama and she was upset, crying and saying, ‘I don’t believe you, I don’t believe you, why would you do this to me?’ ” Cardwell says. “And I was like, ‘Mama, he did that to me and I can’t do anything about it. You were never there to see it you were always at work.”
Also, Anna moved out of the house and went to live with her grandmother shortly after she was molested & only moved back in with her mom years later when the show first premiered.
So I’m not sensing that she got a lot of support from her mother at any point.
You’re probably right — it looks like a deal was made for Anna to live with her grandmother after that and be out of June’s care. Although, it appears June was all too happy for that arrangements if it meant she could keep up with her man.
I wouldn’t be surprised June had her 14 year old Co sign her lie that she hasn’t been with the guy in 10 years. Then pictures came out that showed June, the guy and her 14 year last month house hunting.
This whole exploitation of ill mannered people hopefully will come to a close. The fact that the child is unhealthy and was fed “go go juice” was the tip of the iceberg. Now this will be an historically ugly era in reality television. The whole voyeurism into uncouth people. I know it happens with “beautiful” people too, but this particular family was rife with overt issues. This family and the duck dynasty, just. Gross.
omg. i thought he molested her 8 year old “relative”. people were of course, speculating whether or not it was her own daughter because the age/time line is right but i cant believe it turned out that it really was her own daughter. wtf.
Sadly, it was a neighbor and her daughter. At least that many anyway – who knows how many other kids were exposed to this monster.
I know everyone is going to go bat shit crazy on her, as they should, but I 100% believe she was a victim of child abuse herself. And, that what’s she is doing is nothing more than what many people do when they were themselves molested. Not justifying it, not saying there is anything OK with it, just saying anyone who wasn’t broken themselves would never let this happen. Not that all victims repeat, but many do in differing ways, neglect, risky behaviour, drugs, booze etc, etc.
I can’t prove what I believe, but I always had that feeling with her, and the fact that she was pregnant at 14 or 15 indicates that there was def something going on in her young life. So, you can viafife her all you want, but I for one believe she is also a victim as well as being really, really stupid and easy to manipulate.. Not that I think she should be aloud to keep the kids, so don’t twist my words please. I agree, I’m just saying why I think she is doing this incredibly horrid thing and that it’s not because she’s “evil” it’s because she’s broken…and dumb.
“And, that what’s she is doing is nothing more than what many people do when they were themselves molested.”
Lots of people were molested and would never allow that to happen to their own children. There is no proof that she was molested and even if she was, should never have the consequence we see as her current actions.
“I’m just saying why I think she is doing this incredibly horrid thing and that it’s not because she’s “evil” it’s because she’s broken…and dumb.”
REALLY? Every single person has a CHOICE in life and if you make the decision to give a car to the person who forced your 8-year-old to perform oral sex on him and let him near your 8-year-old NOW, you are an evil, disgusting human being.
Relax! I didn’t say it was right. I said there is obviously something wrong with her to behave like this. Don’t turn this into me saying it’s OK because THAT’S NOT WHAT I SAID! I said she is broken because no sane person would do this. I suspect it’s because she was molested based on her very early sexual activity.
Finally! Comments that remind me I’m on this site! Let the attacking of another begin because Decorative Items said something that differed from another! I was beginning to think I was on another site in which the members didn’t attack each other.
@Dommy– I think people generally try to be respectful of one another on this site. I’ve been to other blog sites, gossip sites, and even Reddit, and I tend to think the discourse here is more polite and points are well discussed.
I can’t say whether Mama June has been abused or not, but it would be a possible explanation. The whole situation is just sad.
Decorative item, I know several women who were either beaten or sexually abused as children, and each of them went out of her way to make sure that NEVER happened to her own children. People do have some choice in their lives, and they also know that help is available. I also think June was probably a victim of abuse, but I think she’s fully culpable for her choices, and I hope like crazy Honey Boo Boo is removed from her care.
I also said that NOT ALL OF THEM DO, but people who get broken when they are children can SOMETIMES do things as adults that balanced people would consider “evil” because they are not on track and need help.
I made a point to say I agree. I made a point to say it’s not right and that I don’t agree with it. What I see is a mess of a woman who can’t take care of herself let alone her kids and that there is a reason beyond, SHE’S EVIL. It’s not a witch hunt, she’s messed up!
Sometimes “messed up” is as bad as evil. The end result should be the same – her minor children need to be taken from her and need to be protected!
This story is really hitting my triggers. It’s really upsetting. I hope CPS takes those kids today! (And I hate the foster system.) I don’t understand why Alana’s father is shouting from the rooftops that he wants sole custody.
Guess we’re on different pages, then. Making sexual sacrifices of young children is true evil that no circumstances can excuse for me.
She didn’t say she excused it
“it’s not because she’s “evil” it’s because she’s broken…and dumb.”
Decorative Item said June is not evil because she is broken and stupid. I think that is an excuse in that it implies she can’t be evil, broken, & dumb. She’s all three in my book.
For what it’s worth Decor, I agree – I strongly suspect June was abused herself. That’s why she doesn’t seem to comprehend, like you, I, or the majority of people, how extremely wrong this is. Even her choice of wording for the denial (as someone mentioned up thread) was like I’m not dating a “child molester”, not specifically McDaniel’s name. That makes me believe she doesn’t see him as a molester. Also, one of the other girl’s fathers is a convicted sex offender (child porn – shudder) too.
I totally get where you’re coming from, decorative item. Pretty brave to be publicly empathetic in this situation, my hat is off to you.
You know who else has a high incidence of being molested as children? Child molesters. We still hold them responsible for the choices they make when their actions harm innocent people who cannot protect themselves. An explanation for one’s current behavior is not an excuse for putting people in danger, which June is doing. I understand that it’s possible to feel empathy for June, and I do. But I also think she needs to have her children taken away if she won’t get the help she needs and do her job as a parent on her own. Because if an intervention doesn’t happen, she will just keep the generational abuse cycle going through what she is teaching to and withholding from her daughters.
I understand your point. I have a dear friend who was monstrously abused by the man her mother married and his son. Repeatedly. For years. She told her mother and her mother whose sole concern was that other people would find out.
I went to my own therapist about the unmanageable rage I felt on my friend’s behalf. She told me that in some people, they develop an actual psychological blindness to abuse. They cannot see it or acknowledge it even if they witness it. There is disassociation that occurs, often as a result of their own brain’s learning to cope with the abuse they suffered as a child. So…
My friend’s mother was abused by her father (we know this), and failed to protect her daughter, but my friend who was abused by stepfather and brother is fiercely protective of her children.
People respond differently.
Take these kids away from her NOW.
yes, this is something we all can agree on -even a money grubbing network.
child molestation and abuse is wrong. ALWAYS.
When it’s bad enough that TLC says it’s bad, you know it’s bad. 🙁 I should think the network knew right away this was a hot potato they needed to drop. I just hope that they stick to their pledge to help the girls.
I guess the only “good” news here is that everyone is watching this man now. Hopefully, he doesn’t want to go back to jail badly enough to keep his nasty paws to himself.
June would’ve been a child molester’s prime target: lots of kids, overwhelmed, desperate for love, insecure, etc…
She even behaved the way most women in her position do: blaming her daughter, the victim — and for all these years she has apparently kept up with him, probably romanticizing their situation like they’re Romeo & Juliet or something. Forbidden love and all that crap.
THIS 100%
Agree 100% and I doubt the fact that she will have her children removed from the home will even stop her from being with him.
AND this is why I side-eye any guy that gets with my sister. 4 kids – all girls – by multiple fathers… She’s a molesters prime target.
That situation must make for some sleepless nights.
Yup. A target for sure.
In addition to Alana, one of the other daughters is also still a minor. Both of those girls should be removed from that house.
Sugar Bear has his issues, but I don’t think there’s ever been a doubt that he loves Alana and the other three girls. He should definitely sue for custody of Alana. June shouldn’t be allowed to have children in her house if she’s dating a predator.
He should go in there and get Alana out ASAP! He’s her father, he has as much right to her as June does. This whole situation is just disgusting.
This is a sad low-self esteem move on the part of June. She is obviously addicted to this creep, to the demise of her children. Love addiction on this level is worse than an actual drug, because she takes the drug and her children get the ugly side effects.
For once I’m glad tmz are keeping up with this, posting pictures and updates. This way when something awful happens again,and it will, cps cant play ignorant or say there was no evidence. Or whatever stupid excuses they use for their constant failures.
Wasn’t there the idea that she was very underage when she was first sleeping with Sugar Bear? She could be a victim of the same thing (trying not to assume the whole of the South is as well, here) and be out of touch with reality on the subject.
That was based on somebody’s idea that all the kids were Sugar bear’s, I think, but she has always said he’s only the bio dad of Alana. However, June was very young when she had Anna
June is 33/34 and Anna, the eldest, is 20… I believe the other kids are 18, 14, and Alana (HBB) is around 8. She was just a kid herself when she started
Couldn’t reply upthread, but if you work with CPS for longer than 5 mins, this scenario is tragically very common. I used to think these guys had a sixth sense to be able to hone in on those women who would turn a blind eye or what have you to whatever the creep did to their own children. Hope there is someone to look after these little girls- someone who sees them as something other than ATM machines.
Everyone’s idiotic, disgusting behavior is excused these days because of “addiction”. Love addiction, tater tot addiction, fame addiction….It’s endless. There is no excuse.
+11
I don’t think anyone here is excusing it, simply trying to understand it–there’s a vast difference between the two.
You forgot about how cheaters aren’t cheaters…they’re sex addicts. I’ve even seen people defending pedophiles saying that it’s “…not their choice who their attracted to” gross. It’s like personal culpability has gone out the window. Or look at the Pistorious case and how it was excused because “of his terrible anxiety about intruders” WTF world
Ok based on ages, wasn’t Jessica around then? And Lauren too? So why weren’t they also taken?
I read that June hasn’t allowed any of the birth fathers contact with her daughters, and she has encouraged Anna to do the same.
I have wondered all along if this guy might not be Pumpkin’s bio dad.
Pedophiles never stop. They can’t be “reformed” or “rehabilitated”. I doubt very much this pedo wants June. He wants her money, the car she bought him, the nice new house and her several daughters. She’s a damned fool and a lousy mother. Not only is she failing to protect her daughters, she’s serving them up to him on a platter. Hate both of them.
I completely agree. Those girls need to be removed from the home today!
Lauryn was born in 2000. How long was June w this guy bc it’s known that her father has never been named
He just got out of a 10 year sentence in March, putting him around 2003/2004 when he went in…
Yeah, I was just getting on here to ask if anyone else was wondering about that possibility. And poor Pumpkin wanted Sugar bear to be her bio dad
I saw a few episodes of the show likely in the earlier seasons a few years ago. I thought that June was trying to give her kids a better life the best was she could and I always saw her as uneducated and slightly misguided but that she meant well. She wasn’t trying to pull the wool over anyone’s eyes she was doing what she knew.
Now, I feel completely different and any modicum of respect I had for her is gone. I get that she was likely molested and abused herself but she should not be exposing her children to this man. I worked in a children’s hospital for a small time as a therapist and these were the I worked with were cases of child molestation. I tend to block that time out in my life because some of these cases were extremely vile and I couldn’t emotionally handle the job so I had to quit after 6 months. So many step-fathers and boyfriends who did this to these kids. So after knowing what these types of acts does to these poor kids I hope Sugar Bear, Anna Shannon, someone, anyone that isn’t a sex offender or dating a sex offender can take these kids. June is putting them at risk and if she wants to be in denial about what happened to her daughter Anna that is her choice but no one should EVER expose their kids to a sex offender, especially the one that molested their own daughter. Hopefully June will face the reality of her choices very quickly. From all accounts it sounds like he was convicted of molesting someone else although accused of molesting Anna. It sounds like Anna never really got the support she needed for this issue. I hope the kids are kept safe and far far away from this man and their mother if she chooses to support him.
I’m with you, Arya. I used to think June was giving it a decent shot at trying to do as much as she could for her girls. Given all this new information, I can’t find anything redeeming about her. I used to really want to work in child services, or something involving helping out kids that really need it. The more I thought about it, the more I realized I wouldn’t be able to emotionally handle it at all. I’d be no good to the kids in the long run, because I’d only want to be acting as an emotional individual, not someone trying to work around laws and logic. I think it’s amazing though, that you did manage the 6 months, and can only imagine how difficult those 6 months must have been. My grandfather went from an airforce career, to a town council and social services one, and I really don’t know how he did it. He was very much the ‘fight for the underdog’ kind of guy, and really had a strong sense of justice over everything else. I know they used to get phone calls with threats on him/nan/my dad and aunts based on this kind of side of him. But he never let anyone walk over anyone who couldn’t stand up for themselves if he could help it at all.
Ewwwwwwww!!! I can’t imagine any woman in her right mind doing that.
When I was growing up in the 70’s my best friend, to this day, admitted her step father and at least one brother (pretty sure it was two), had been raping her for years. We were young at the time and family services at that time (they sucked back then) put her in foster care (where she was abused more) told the mom to kick him out (nothing legally happened to them) and she said my friend d was lying. There was so much proof of isn’t even funny. They did finally force her to kick him out, friend came home, step dad came back. I’m sure it went on. Years later, my friend had 6 kids by 6 different men, lost custody of most of them for whatever reason and committed suicide a few years ago. All because of mom and her denial. And of course, the disgusting step dad and brothers. This makes me so mad that any mom could do this and I hope and pray they take her kids now! For good, even if she promises to never see him again. Get those kids!!!!!! 😠😠😠
Whatevs, sorry about your friend. 😢 I hope those bastards that did this to her rot in hell.
VILE.
I take back anything remotely complimentary I may have once had to say about this woman.
I always thought this woman, despite being really unconventional, and just terribly crude, really had it together. Another site was quick to point out that her other kids’ dads were in prison, one crimes against a child as well and Sugar Bear set a guy on fire while robbing him. So there is a pattern here. No man is more important than your flesh and blood. Poor kids..I hope nothing happens to them.
You know…sometimes I just want to…slap a b*tch. Hard. I know that is a bad thing to say . But I am so angry and horrified. Karma, please get to work on this immediately, and CPS too.
I used to be someone who would defend this family, that June seemed to be smarter than she let on and that the family all supported each other. This breaks my heart. I can say that denial runs pretty deep. Pedophiles can be very charming and tell you what you want to hear. I had a boss with whom I thought I was fairly close go to prison for child porn a few years ago, and I would never ever have thought it. My kids were never alone with him (they only saw him if they visited me at work), but I would have trusted him with them. I felt like the worst judge of character.
I agree with everyone else who has said June was vulnerable, possibly abused, probably romanticizing her relationship with this guy, and probably really believing his innocence. He’s a user and found someone he could use. She could be brainwashed to some degree. That doesn’t excuse it of course. There is no excuse for putting your children in danger like that. But I do see how it can happen. Here’s hoping the publicity this is getting will help keep these kids and others safe.
Oh Amy, you realize you might be crucified by the masses for showing some understanding & human compassion, right?
I’m glad TLC pulled the plug, but trust me, they didn’t shoot their money cow in the head for it’s own good – they did it because they knew people were going to sharpen their pitchforks over it. Hopefully the WHOLE family will get counseling
What depresses me even more is that this didn’t happen because of the show. If HCHBB was never a show, the same thing would have happened, only no one would have known about it. Now I’m imagining how many other families are in the same situation right now and nobody knows. 🙁
@Amy – The father of her other daughter, Chubbs, was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child over the internet and McDaniel was convicted of molesting another girl. I don’t think June is an innocent in all of this. There are perverted women out there too and some of them like this sort of men.
Also, June and all the fathers of her children (though Pumpkin’s father is a mystery) have criminal histories. She’s not above mating with men of shady backgrounds.
You’ve got a point there. One would think multiple convictions would be enough to defeat denial and willing disbelief.
You have a point. Didn’t Alana (HBB) start out on Toddlers and Tiaras? Not all, but a lot of the child beauty pageant stuff strikes me as over sexualization of little girls.
Many pedophiles seek out vulnerable women with children, then spend years grooming the mother before anything happens with the children. It’s not unusual for a woman to be a target multiple times as these men are very, very good at finding ‘suitable’ women.
Many years ago one of my friends children was molested by her then boyfriend. She kicked him to the curb. A year later she started online dating, and was contacted by the police, letting her know that some of the men she’d been on dates with were registered sex offenders. It turned out about half the men who had contacted her online were registered sex offenders. Something about her made her a target for these kinds of people.
I never really watched the show but from what I saw in articles June seemed to really care about her daughters, I’m just appalled by her behavior and I feel such rage, I don’t understand how any mother could do this to her child. And house hunting? So she’s planning on letting this creep live with her girls?? I hope sugar bear gets full custody ASAP.
I have a dog, not a human kid. If anyone – let alone a boyfriend – was ever mean to him or threatened him, let alone physically hurt him, then they would be out of my life immediately and permanently. I can’t wrap my head around a mother who is less protective than that of her own child. Even if she doesn’t have the hard-wiring to be emotionally responsive, how can she not have the minimal moral compass required to keep her kids out of danger?
I’m the same way. I can’t believe this woman is dating this disgusting waste of flesh in complete disregard for her children. I certainly hope they get taken away from her.
Why does everybody act so surprised? This “family” was hand picked by TLC because of their gross dysfunction in their daily living. When you see that behavior on the surface, there is certainly a lot more negative behavior trying to be concealed. TLC already had the next season of filming wrapped up. My guess is they didn’t want to lose the revenue from the show, so had TMZ not exposed they would have continued this charade as long as they could. As far as Mama June, I mean listen to her on any subject. She lacks much IQ and self esteem. A predator like this would easily target her and she would fall for it hook, line and sinker. My guess is she dumped Sugar Bear as soon as this perv was out of prison. I am sure Sugar Bear has a lot of “secrets” in the woodshed too or he would not have been involved with Mama June. The whole family is lucky…they got to make a lot of money that never would have happened if Honey BooBoo and Mama weren’t on the beauty pageant circuit exhibiting extreme behavior. Somebody hopefully will save Alana before he gets to her and he surely will while blazing through Mama’s money.
Disgusting. But all the signs were there that there was something wrong with this family first off MB was 14 when she had her oldest. Second her obsession with child pageantry which is all about sexualizing young girls. My first instincts were right when my friends told me to watch that show. It’s exploitation plain and simple and anyone who was a fan is part of the problem that we pick these car crash families as entertainment then are appalled at the goriness of the crash.
Great comment, I totally agree.
+1
there is sooo much wrong with those pageants its creepy.
I used to defend this woman and her family. I cannot and will not defend a woman who, by all current evidence, has so little regard for the most precious things in the world- her children. Sure, she’s in denial over what he did. But come on woman, he molested your beautiful daughter and took away part of her innocence and childhood.
These poor kids. Stay with mom, potentially be sexually abused. Can’t go to dad’s, he’s in jail. Can’t go to Alanna’s dad’s because where the hell is he during all of this? Foster care, more potential for abuse, or being homed with people who just want the money or publicity. Their mother is a damn loser, but they are the ones who are losing.
My own mother (and at least a couple of her sisters) were abused by a boyfriend of my grandmother’s. He even went as far as to say he would “have a whole harem” (she’d had seven kids, five were girls.) When my mother, still a child this point, finally confronted her, she didn’t believe her. This man eventually left (not before killing their pet dog and threatening to kill my grandmother and all her children.) And throughout it all, all my grandmother could say to my mom is that she’d “driven away the only man that could satisfy” her. She also believed that anyone who got raped let it happen, that “you can stop it if you really want to stop it.” My grandma was a f#cking peach, she was :/
June should read Gene Simmon’s article!
Disgusting. So glad I never watched this show. So much for all the hype about how responsible June is for saving her daughter’s money in a trust.
I can’t fathom associating with ANY convicted child molester, let alone one who hurt your own flesh and blood! June is a horrible person.
I’ve always thought that June was a sick person and a bad mother. I have never been on this family’s bandwagon. This scandal is not serving as any kind of a catalyst for me. I wish the best for her children.
ITA with the horror expressed by previous posters – I just cannot fathom knowingly putting my children in such a dangerous position. Also wanted to add that TLC disgusts me. I firmly believe they knew what was going on, and would have kept it under wraps if not for TMZ. This is not the first time they have staged a phony vow renewal, knowing full well that a couple was imploding (see: Gosselins). I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find out they were behind the whole ‘Sugar Bear broke up the relationship by going on online dating sites’ scenario. Much like Kate Gosselin, they knew which member of the couple was the ‘star’ and put their resources behind her until the truth became undeniable. Disgusting…
June has a type. Michael Anthony Ford, the father of her daughter Chubbs, is a convicted “sexual exploiter of children on the internet” (per RO). TMZ says that throughout June & Sugar Bear’s relationship, June kept photos of her & McDaniel which caused arguments between her & SB because she wouldn’t toss them out. It also says that June was cheating on SB with McDaniel who got out in March. TMZ has a photo of McDaniel and June in bed together in a hotel room. In People magazine online, Anna said her mother’s response to Anna accusing McDaniel of molesting her was basically ‘I don’t believe you. I don’t believe you. Why are you doing this to me?’ as if June was a victim of her daughter because her boyfriend got in trouble. Also, it said that Anna moved in with her grandmother after the molestation. RO said that it was because June wanted to move in with a boyfriend and dumped Anna at the grandmother’s and then CPS or whomever made it a permanent arrangement. It also said that when the TV show was about to film, June paid Anna $500 per month to move back in so as to appear that they were one big happy family. The molestation that got McDaniel convicted was on another girl after Anna. Anna’s case was dismissed. I saw a comment that maybe June was the reason Anna’s case was dismissed because June may have gone against her daughter and supported McDaniel instead. Regardless, because Anna’s case was dismissed, McDaniel went on to molest another girl. June has a criminal history and so does Anna’s father, Sugar Bear, Chubb’s father, and the identity of Pumpkin’s father is unknown.
Another thing I find deplorable is that June continues to lie to Anna that she isn’t seeing McDaniel. Anna told People mag. that this has caused her frustration and confusion because there’s evidence that June is lying. I don’t think June has ever been close to Anna and just thinks of her as some kind of trash she threw away. I don’t think she has any maternal feelings for Anna.
I wonder if since she had her so young she has may have resented her anyway. I can understand the disbelief and devastation of first finding out your boyfriend or spouse is abusing your child. But, this guys has been away for 10 years, was convicted of molesting someone else entirely, is not the father of her kids. I can’t believe she hasn’t woken up since then and is willing to ignore any nagging doubts she has about him in order to let him move in with her other daughters.
@Wren33
That’s an interesting point you make. Seperate from this article, there is a lot of conflicting emotions that can go with motherhood.
Mama June needs to have her kids taken away and placed in safe custody with someone who will be able to put those kids’ needs first, since she can’t do that.
Hugs to all of those who have survived (or are still surviving) such horrorific situations like this where your loved ones have deeply betrayed you.
@Wren33 – June must have ice in her blood. One would think that after her boyfriend got convicted, a normal mother would start wondering if all her daughters got molested. When Anna was 8, that would have made her two younger sisters 5 and 2 at the time. He could have molested the younger ones but they wouldn’t have been able to verbalize what was happening as well as the 8 year old could.
And then with June bringing this guy around HBB, who is 8 or 9 years old, it’s almost like she’s feeding all her daughters to him in exchange for him to stay with her.
June and McDaniel are both sickos, imo. I don’t think it’s a “love addiction” or a “brainwashing” like some others are saying. I say women can be just as sick and perverted as men.
I just can’t fathom a mother putting her child in danger like this, let alone twice.
I know it happens and to everyone above who shared their stories, my heart goes out to you.
Just staggering.
Disgusting. Who dates the man convicted of molesting your daughter? Not alleged. Went to jail and is a registered sex offender. Ugh. WTF is she thinking? I hope her kids are taken from her since she doesn’t have a damn bit of sense.
It’s not surprising to me that a pageant mom would be in twoo wuv with a child molester. The world of child pageantry is not for the child, it’s for mom. If June’s kids are abused by this fuck-o, what is it to her? She’s still getting what she wants. I’m sure he’ll spend all kinds of quality time with her as long as she keeps supplying the bait & she knows this. If her children are what this relationship will ultimately cost her, that’s fine because they’re nothing but collateral damage to her anyway. It takes more than spitting out a few kids to qualify as a mother, so I think we need strip her of the “Mama” title.
ITA – my mom was a cop and called those child pageants “Child Pr0n Fodder” and would go on about how most of the men who attend are molesters. No wonder June likes them perverted and disgusting.
Very good point. I criticized that woman when this show was popular; I said I found the show creepy and I didn’t think that woman was a good mother and of course I was roundly hammered for it. Those child pageants disgust me, yes they are definitely child p r0n.
I’ve never watched the show and did not follow this family beyond what I read on Celebitchy and Dlisted…all I have to say is Mama June is a bigger idiot that I thought. To throw so much away – not just the show and lots of money, but her relationship with her daughter and her children’s safety – to be with her daughter’s child molester. I was happy to have read that she was being smart with their new found fortune for the benefit of the children. This is incredibly disappointing and mind boggling. Some women will give up everything to be with a man.
Disgusting. It makes me wonder if June was molested .. by him even. I read that he was actually in jail for molesting another child, and the charges against him regarding June’s daughter were dropped. Is this true?
He was arrested for forcing oral sex on an 8 year old.
Yes, but I read somewhere, and now can’t find it, that his actual conviction was for a different child.
OMG beyond revolting
I never got the appeal of this show. The whole thing (from “sketti” to the child molester) is so gross.
+1
Tragic! Unfortunately, this kind of situation is very common. I feel bad for Chikadee. Now, I want to hug her. I hope she’s ok.
You know what I’d like to know? Who is the constant companion taking all of the pictures of June and this molester, and subsequently releasing them?
I hope it’s SugarBear trying to build up a case for sole custody. I can dream, can’t i?
Whoever it is, I’m glad he/she sold or gave those pics to the media.
It’s just arrogance on her part and indifference to her own children that she poses with great big smiles for the photographs with this sicko and her children.
Maybe its a pap.
This is a horrible story. In addition to on an individual level, helping get this guy away from her kid, I hope it makes people take another look at the pageant industry, which seems at best exploitative and very very shady.
And where are all the people that just last month were singing Mama June’s praises, about what a good person she s and how much she just loves her family? I said it then and I’ll say it again: trash.
We’re still here, but we woke up. 🙁
THIS WOMAN IS GROSS. AND I CANT BELIEVE ANY MOTHER WOULD DO THIS. As a survivor of sexual assault, My mom was my main point of support and I cant imagine what it would feel like to go through this and the life long effects of this pain, knowing that your mother sides with the person that caused you so much pain. Mama June is prime example of someone that should have been sterilized because being a mother is clearly not a worthy title. AGAIN I AM SOOOOO DISGUSTED BY THIS STORY. THIS WOMAN TURNED OUT TO BE AS UGLY ON THE OUTSIDE AS SHE IS ON THE INSIDE. #SAVEHONEYBOOBOO
Same thing happened to my mother. Her “mother” on the heels on her second marriage decided to marry the creep that would go on to molest my mom and her 3 siblings. He drilled a hole in the bathroom shower from another room so he could watch them shower…among other unspeakable acts of depravity. My mom told her mother about what was happening, but it fell upon deaf ears. She remained married to the creep until the day she died. I never liked my grandmother. I was quite rude to her, in fact . I was ashamed that this person didn’t love my own mother enough to leave this dispicable man that molested all 4 of her children. I can’t even imagine sleeping in the same bed as someone who molested my child. My mother (and two her siblings) went on to become raging alcoholics, drug addicts. It’s not only the molested children who suffer, but believe me, I’ve had to deal with my mother’s emotional baggage for years. I’m in no way marginalizing what happened to my mom (she had it 100x worse, obviously).
I sincerely hope this woman gets therapy. Those poor children need to be taken away, asap.
I have always wondered what people see in reality TV. It’s just the lowest form of…I really can’t call it entertainment. Watching dysfunction and degradation to what end? Does it make people feel superior, better about their lives?
Everyone has a choice in life. This woman has put her children at risk because her self-esteem is so low or such a narcissist she would rather serve her daughters up to a convicted pedophile than be without a relationship with a man. Whether she was abused herself is pure speculation. I know girls who had babies at 14 or 15 who were not abused, just too clueless to get birth control or demand that the boy use a condom.
People want to excuse people’s behavior when they do horrific acts, they’re sick, they’re damaged, they were abused, the list goes on and on. Well guess what? Some people are just plain evil and they do horrible things because the like it, are too weak to do better, or they like the power it gives them over people who would never consider, let alone actually commit the acts they do without compunction.
When I was 13 our landlord tried to molest me. He enter the house on the pretense of checking the deadbolt on the back door which was in the kitchen. Once in the kitchen he began to speak to be in a suggestive manner and grabbed my crouch. I pushed him away, he was still grabbing at me, I was holding him off, I started looking for a weapon, finally in desperation I opened the freezer door, grabbed a large frozen ham and hit him with it. I told him if he ever came near me again I would bash his f@&king head in.
I was very lucky, he never came near me again and the two times I saw him afterwards, I made a two-fisted overhead swinging motion and have him the finger. I never told anyone not my mother, not the police, I wasn’t sure a 13-year-old Black girl would be believed in 1967 in Texas. I was always haunted by the thought that there were other girls out there who were not so lucky, like his daughter and wondered if his wife knew about his “proclivities”.
He died when I was in my late twenties, my mother was shocked by my response to his death, “Good riddance, f@$king asshole”.
My goodness, that’s terrible. So glad you had the strength to stand up for yourself!
All Heavens, that’s terrible and I’m sorry to hear what you went thru but glad you stood up to that creep.
It’s hard reading some people’s experiences on this board today, I just hope everyone who suffered at the hands of an abuser is in a better place.
Mama June is a creep and her children should be taken away ASAP.
I have four children. Three boys. One girl. Their father molested my daughter. She was under 3 when I found out. I called the police, put the sucker in jail, and he will be there for the next 35 years. That is not to say it’s been easy. I judge Mama June very harshly because as parents, we are given our children and entrusted with their protection. My actions speak very clearly. Mess with my kids, and you’re gone. Even if you are my husband of 10 years, father of my children. I can’t date anyone with a clear conscience b/c I have an innate fear of everyone now. If my own husband could do this? The man I had been with since I was 16? The man who was gentle to our babies and I thought was an amazing, wonderful father? If he can do it, anyone can. So, I will be a single momma to my four beautiful babies and when they’re grown, maybe then. I have learned I am not fulfilled by any one person, and that’s ideal. Best part is that my daughter doesn’t remember it, so I hope and pray every day that she doesn’t have a lasting scar from it.
Wow Sunshine, good for you! Ugh, that is unspeakably horrible. I am so happy to hear it sounds like he got a very tough sentence (too often it seems they are given a slap on the wrist).
His family hates me because I campaigned for the max sentences. I went to every court hearing and testified on her behalf. I always want her to be able to look back and say without a shred of doubt, that her mother stood up for her. She couldn’t stand up for herself. He got sentenced federally and on the state level, due to other monstrosities that went along with the molestation.
Bless you! So glad you got away from that monster. Its just so sick that grown adults look at children in a sexual way! I just cannot comprehend it. Your kids have an awesome mom!
Thank you, Snarky. I will say the internet community has been a vast sort of support. I try not to share much with people I know IRL as I don’t want my kids stigmatized. 🙂
Blessings to you Sunshine. Congratulate yourself on being a great Mom.
Sunshine, you are the greatest ally your children could ever hope for. Thank you for fighting for those babies and doing your damnedest to protect them. You are what a mother should be.
You are a hero. Your kids have the best mother anyone could dream of and I hope you are proud. <3 I hope the dark days are long over and that you are blessed with many things to smile about now.
Good for you! You did the right thing to be strong for and support your daughter. I am sorry that it’s kept you from finding another relationship. I know I would be the same way. I already am, even though my kids weren’t abused. If my husband and I split up, I couldn’t be in a relationship with anyone else because I would always worry. I worry when my kids go to a friend’s house to spend the night. I’m about to send my son (10) on a Boy Scout camping trip, and I’m worried about that. How can you ever know?
As a survivor of sexual abuse (from my father my heart goes out to Anna) , I hope the counseling helps her through this tough time.Shame on June for choosing a man over her children.
The sheer number of mothers who side with the abuser–I just can’t understand how it’s so many who do. I guess they’re more fearful of being alone in this world than they are in leaving their children alone in the world.
I’ve never seen the show, how was the Sugar Bear guy depicted on the show? Was he framed positively or negatively?
It’s a moot point though, even if the relationship was a bad one, she made the decision to to return to a monster
He was framed, um, positively I guess. I only saw the first season. He was portrayed as loving June and the girls. I mean, “Positive” is a relative term here. But who knows what the real situation is.
And this is a woman, and family, who were given a TV show and, as a result, made a ton of money. Shame, shame, SHAME on TLC and how DARE they call themselves The Learning Channel while exploiting and promoting the worst trailer trash people in the universe. What’s next – a reality show about incest? No wonder I rarely watch TV.
My mother let a known child rapist babysit me when I was five years old. I was raped until I was seven. As a teenager when I told my mother,she acted embarrassed and didn’t know what to say or do. Her live in boyfriend that was a violent pimp, he told me that my rapist couldn’t help himself and I should forgive him. My mother never tried to helped me or get me help from the pain of what happened. Her boyfriends was always more important than me. She’s dead now. I want to flush her ashes down the toilet.
I hope you come back to this thread so you see my post. You have support in other women. We understand eachother and many of us have experienced the same things. I totally get your anger. I will forever be angry with my mother. People say we’re suppose to forgive – How? I don’t know what that even means. How does one force one’s self to not feel something they feel? I can tell you I forgive, but it’s a lie. I am angry. I will always be angry. I don’t let it ruin my life, but when the subject arises, yeah, I’m angry…all over again. I think my anger is/was what helped me rise above it all. The anger is what drove me, motivated me, made me determined. I embrace the anger so long as it doesn’t drive me down.
Your mom, my mom, June – they’re all narcissists. They think only of themselves. Their children are merely objects to create an illusion of a caring, maternal person when in reality they use us as pawns for their alterior motive – to not have to work because they have kids to take care of; to rely on a man because their kids need a father; to give the perception of vulnerability so some man will want to take care of them. I’m going to guess your mom didn’t work. My mom didn’t work. June doesn’t work. Do you see the pattern?
I admit it – I drank this woman’s kool aid. I thought she was a person who had had an underprivileged upbringing and had been through a wild period when young (arrested, 4 kids to 4 different men) – but who really had her ish together now and was a loving mom. I saw her as crass but shrewd and sensible. I assumed Anna had lived with grandma because June was a tad to young to cope with so many kids at the time but everything was cool now. I would have pegged her as the sort who would have told a creep-o like this guy to get the fuck away from her kids before you could bat an eyelid. I thought she genuinely loved all her girls.
I guess it just goes to show that superficial media created impressions of a person can be very, very wrong.
To think She was found through that horrible Kiddie Pageant program they do…Toddlers and Tiaras,or whatever its called, which also needs to be stopped. It borders on making child abuse into a tv show. Those mothers are unhinged IMO and those pageants are targets for pedos.