Jon Stewart: ‘People don’t recognize how exhausting it is sometimes to be black’

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I don’t have words for the wonderfulness of this New York Magazine profile/interview of Jon Stewart. I’m not even going to be able to highlight even half of the interesting stuff he’s talking about, so just go here to read the piece in full. Just give yourself some time to read the whole thing, because he talks about every major political figure in America, he talks about ISIS, the media, ebola, Stephen Colbert, John Oliver and his new film Rosewater. And so much more. If you couldn’t tell already, I friggin’ love Jon Stewart. And more than that, I find him facinating. He’s not some untouchable comedy god – he makes mistakes, he owns them, he tries to course-correct. He sounds kind of tired and bitter, but he still gives a sh-t too. Some highlights:

The prospects of Romney 2016: “My favorite thing about Mitt Romney now is, imagine if the second-string quarterback on a football team got to just go around on all the shows and go, “I’d have f–king nailed that pass.” For Romney, it’s, “Ebola? There wouldn’t even be Ebola if I were president. I’m not sure Africa would still exist.” It’s so f–king funny. Then you watch Dick Cheney out there being asked his opinion about isis. It’s like bringing on Conrad Murray to talk about, “So, what do you think they’re doing wrong with these patients?” “I don’t know. Why don’t they try to kill them with propofol? That’s what I did.” Every time Cheney goes on TV, why wouldn’t you just begin and end every interview with, “Now, you f–ked a lot of this up almost every day for eight years. What do you think?”

The prospects of Hillary 2016: “Hillary strikes me as competent. She’s certainly very bright. But she’s a little hawkish for me.”

The risk of making his first film: “But is it a risk at this point in my life? Yes, it’s very different from the forgiving nature of The Daily Show, where you lay a turd on Monday and Tuesday you’re back at it. With the movie, the idea that it’s all sort of building to this one opening weekend, you really do feel like that prom pressure of “I will lose my virginity!” But I get criticized all the time, so that’s not different. The failure would have been not attempting it.”

Whether he was offered Meet the Press: “First of all, NBC didn’t offer anything. They were exploring it in the way of, “Maybe it’s time to do something ridiculous.” There was definitely a meeting. I spent most of it telling them what a crazy idea I thought it was and kind of going through all of the different reasons why I did not think it was appropriate either for me or for them. That venue feels like an Establishment vehicle. They run on access. There’s a certain symbiosis with politicians. I am a part of an Establishment but in a slightly different element. We’ll do certain bits that would be disqualifying in terms of that person ever talking to us again, and I’ll say to other people on the staff, “You know, what’s nice about this show is that when I leave, I’ll leave with no friends but you people.” I think I would be too reactionary to execute something like Meet the Press properly. I mean reactionary in the sense of, “What’s wrong with you!” Nobody wants to be yelled at.”

Why he’s spent the last year diversifying The Daily Show: “I was defensive at first about our writing staff being all white and male, and then I had to examine what were the structural issues, and what’s my own ignorance of some of this. It’s been a long process, and that’s just one metric, but I wanted a wider and deeper pool of people to draw from. Hopefully, I’ve grown and learned as I’ve gotten older. I’ve had some very frank conversations with women on the staff and minorities on the staff about the inherent difficulties, the fact that in their lives they have to make decisions and strategize in a way that I take for granted. I don’t think people recognize how exhausting it is sometimes to be black.

He believes we should have a draft: “I do. I absolutely do. I’ve watched military families suffer in a way that is unconscionable considering the demands that we have placed on them over this ten-year period. When I say there should be a draft, I also think it should be noncompulsory military. There should be a draft where every young person has to do one year of something — military, public works — something so that we all feel invested in the same game, because that’s the part that we’ve lost.”

On Obama: One of my biggest criticisms with Obama is that he ran on rebuilding a corrosive system and just basically tried to put new wallpaper up. And yet he has done some impressive things. Would I have done the health-care system that way? No, but he did, and he got it passed, and millions more people have health care, and it’s hard to imagine that’s a bad thing. My biggest concern is how good we’ve gotten at campaigns and how bad we’ve gotten at government. The entire system is incentivized backwards.

[From New York Magazine]

There’s so much more. He talks about Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and Sam Brownback. He’s not looking forward to a Hillary Clinton campaign. He sort of likes Obama and he thinks Obama is “surrounded by idiots.” He also talks a little bit about how his contract is up next year and he doesn’t know what he’s going to do next. I hope he sticks with The Daily Show, although I have to say… he sounds like he’s worn out. Like, he’s kind of “over” TDS. Which is sad, because he’s built that show into the jewel of Comedy Central.

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  1. riemc526 says:

    John Stewart for President 2016!

  2. Tiffany27 says:

    I love him. That is all.

  3. Amy says:

    The man is a national treasure.

  4. Sixer says:

    This is my one Man I Fancy Off The Telly who I’ve never, ever, even once, considered using my collection of ball gags on.

  5. Jaded says:

    I would marry him and have his children…if I weren’t 62 and still had my uterus and ovaries that is….

  6. Renee says:

    Some people do realize how exhausting it sometimes is to be black: black people 🙂

    • Nev says:

      WORD.

      hahahaha you know?!!! geez. rolling eyes.

    • Hahahaha says:

      I just love him for acknowledging it. I am a proud black woman, and there are still days when I think, just for today can I not deal with the bullsh$t…..

    • Kiddo says:

      I think he was about ‘speaking truth to power’, with this comment, and unfortunately, power tends to skew white (and rich) in spite of the population of its constituency which it supposedly serves.

    • Brionne says:

      I appreciate his effort to meaningfully acknowledge that there is an additional set of pressures.

    • QQ says:

      THIIIIISSS he is an exceptionally good Ally but it does sometimes make me eyerolly that to some white libs and with-it people is like AHHAAA!! Jon Stewart Opened their eyes whereas every normal black man, woman and teen and POC BEEN saying this shit daily since EVER!! but .. is not valid hearing it from them?/US???

      Kinda like how Ben Affleck defending Islam gets a LOT more people on board but when Moderate Muslims or Reza Aslan say it is like Nahhh

      • Katenotkatie says:

        Agreed, why does it take a powerful white dude speaking for a mainstream publication to run statements like these. Why not profile some of the “diverse” writers he’s talking about? Meh.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        But if a person is a member of a group that hasn’t been systemically oppressed, they really only have one of two choices if they do not support the oppression of other people: Speak out against it OR don’t speak out against it.

        Just because someone acknowledges the plight of others, that doesn’t mean they think they are a savior for that cause. It doesn’t mean that they think their comments have more validity than others; they are just adding to the chorus. Sometimes they just want to be on the TEAM that is working on the side of justice. If everyone’s goals are the same (end discrimination, etc.) why make divisions?

      • GByeGirl says:

        I have to credit Jon Stewart with helping to swing my once rather right wing conservative-ish husband to a much more balanced moderate. Humor is a great way to tell someone they are acting like an a-hole without actually calling him an a-hole.

    • OhDear says:

      I’m glad that he actually took a step back from his initial defensiveness of the criticism and learn from it.

    • MissTrial says:

      @ReneeL This!
      But good to hear him ( or anyone really) say it.

      And, he nailed the Romney/Cheney thing. The Romney stuff is laughable. Dude, you lost. Go home.

      The Cheney stuff is just nervy, wish Cheney would stay in his bunker.

  7. J-G says:

    Wow. I couldn’t imagine him leaving the Daily Show.

    • Senna says:

      I watch every episode of TDS and I CAN imagine him leaving. I adore him, but I think the four-shows-a-week format is ridiculously taxing, and he’s seemed so tired lately. If you compare his show to John Oliver’s Last Week Tonight, it’s so obvious that John’s show benefits from the entire week he and his writers get to prepare. It’s much more in-depth and sharply written than TDS has been lately. That said, I’d love to see Jon on TV in any capacity. A once- weekly show, making more movies, anything. Jon has such a sharp wit and great insight, I really would be sad if he wasn’t a presence in TV or film in the future.

  8. Sozual says:

    LOVE HIM!

  9. alexc says:

    He is a mensch in every sense of the word. A real, thinking, feeling person in a business of fakes, phonies and narcissists.

  10. LadySlippers says:

    What an impressive quote:

    “My biggest concern is how good we’ve gotten at campaigns and how bad we’ve gotten at government. The entire system is incentivized backwards.”

    Can I get a Hallelujah for this? And I’m starting to feel as if modern life is ‘incentivized backwards’ and it makes me tremendously sad.

  11. Itsnotthatserious says:

    I knew there was a reason I liked him. I am happy that he addressed how defensive he was when he was called out on his all white male wiring staff, but he listened and learned about his white male privilege and was able to rectify that.

    I can’t deal with the talking head liberals who can’t see how the racist structure benefit them and keep minorities marginalized.

  12. Falula says:

    Swoon.

    I’ll read the whole thing but I don’t know if he can top the “good at campaigns, bad at government” quote. Nails it.

    • bluhare says:

      You guys won’t believe me, but I really did have exactly this quote in my head as I was listening to the latest round of bulls*it that passes for political advertising last night. And I didn’t know about the article or what he said. Although someone else probably said it and my subconscious remembered it, because I would never have said I’m as astute as Jon Stewart!

  13. lile says:

    Seriously, the man is brilliant. He would make an amazing president and would probably be a shoe-in, to the horror of the GOP. Wouldn’t that be the best? I would vote for him. Love, love, love Jon Stewart.

  14. Jess says:

    I love him so much!

  15. HughJass says:

    Love him so! I would be sad when/if he leave the Daily Show, but I think it must be exhausting after all these years and I imagine he wants to branch out. Can’t wait to see Rosewater.

  16. INeedANap says:

    He’s exhausted because like they say, the amount of energy needed to refute bull$h1t is an order of magnitude higher than the energy needed to say bull$h1t.

  17. BlackVeroincaLake says:

    Being black and a woman is very stressful at times. We get bashed for everything by everyone.

    • Hiddlesgirl85 says:

      Truth!

      • V says:

        Let me add to this please: The only person I know who’s more stressed is a black woman who’s an American citizen, Muslim and originally (30 years ago) from Liberia. The mess she’s had to deal with since 9/11 and now with Ebola makes me want to holler. Being bashed for her skin, her sex, the country she calls home, her religion and now where she was born? Man, I used to think being a black American woman from a military family was rough, but the stuff she goes through is far more insane than my ish.

  18. Nimbolicious says:

    I love this man. I’m at the point where I don’t bother with any conventional “news” because I can’t handle spin. Jon and Stephen unspool all the crap for me so that I can have a few genuine, non-ironic belly laughs before bed. Otherwise these days, I’d just want to claw out my own ears and eyes.

  19. Maum says:

    I used to have such a crush on him when he was on MTV. I’m so glad we still get the Daily Show in the UK. The idiots cancelled the Colbert Report.

  20. wolfpup says:

    Wonderful strong voices here! I’m heading out to vote – it’s Election Day! In many states, if you haven’t already registered, you still can. This is how we change the world! God Bless America!

  21. Anon says:

    The regular news is nothing but spun PR, most likely brought to you by people like the Koch Brothers. Give me Jon Stewart, Stephan Colbert, and John Oliver any day. I’m getting ready to head out to vote too. I’m hoping my fellow Kansans are finally figuring out ‘what’s the matter with Kansas’. Brownback has got to go…(Ditch, Mitch).

  22. nikko says:

    I like him!

  23. Chris says:

    Just another rich neoliberal.
    But this is spot on: “My biggest concern is how good we’ve gotten at campaigns and how bad we’ve gotten at government. The entire system is incentivized backwards.”

  24. sarah says:

    Bless this man!!!!!

  25. Danskins says:

    Love him!