Billy Crystal on gay sex on TV: ‘I hope people don’t abuse it & shove it in our face’

2015 FOX Winter Television Critics Association All-Star Party
Billy Crystal was doing a press panel for his upcoming FX show, The Comedians. He plays the veteran comedian to Josh Gad’s up and comer, and the show is a remake of an original Swedish series which is likely to be much better. Crystal played one of the first gay characters on television in Soap, which ran from 1977 to 1981. When he was asked about gay sex on television he had some thoughts that seemed disproportionate to the amount of gay sex that is actually on television.

Billy Crystal, who played one of television’s first-ever gay series regular on the comedy “Soap,” said today’s portrayal of LGBT characters is, at times, gratuitous.

“Sometimes I think, ‘Ah that’s too much for me,” the comedian told the audience at the Television Critics Association press tour in Pasadena during a panel discussion for his new show, “The Comedians,” which premiers in April on FX.

Crystal played Jodie Dallas on the ABC comedy “Soap” from 1977 to 1981.

“It was very difficult at the time,” said Crystal. “Jodie was really the first recurring [gay] character on network television and it was a different time, it was 1977. So, yeah, it was awkward. It was tough…

“I did it in front of a live audience and there were times when I would say to Bob [Seagren], ‘I love you,’ and the audience would laugh nervously. I wanted to stop the taping and go, ‘What is your problem?'”

But, the comedian says today’s gay storylines are, at times, too much.

“Sometimes, it’s just pushing it a little too far for my taste and I’m not going to reveal to you which ones they are…

“I hope people don’t abuse it and shove it in our face… to the point where it feels like an every day kind of thing.”

[From The Wrap via DListed]

You know what’s gratuitous on TV and constantly shoved in our faces? Violence. Gay sex is a new, rare and welcome addition. We probably see violence on television at a rate that’s thousands of times higher than it occurs in real life. (I can’t verify that with a two minute google search but it’s likely true.) When we see the occasional gay sex scene that’s relatively benign compared to the countless scenes of graphic murders, it’s dissected and discussed in the media ad nauseam. Plus it’s only a drop in the bucket, statistically speaking. I don’t know why we’re paying attention to Billy Crystal’s thoughts on television at all. He’s from another, less tolerant era, one in which he was considered an entertaining Oscars host.

After this story came out, Crystal clarified his remarks to claim that he was speaking about all sex on television, not just gay sex. He told The Hollywood Reporter “What I meant was that whenever sex or graphic nudity of any kind (gay or straight) is gratuitous to the plot or story it becomes a little too much for my taste.THR has a transcript of the entire back and forth, and while Crystal’s thoughts on gratuitous sex may apply to all sex depicted on television, he was definitely referring to gay sex when he said “I hope people don’t abuse it and shove it in our face.” Here’s the transcript of that part, and you can read more on The Hollywood Reporter:

See, I did it in front of a live audience, and there were times where I would say to Bob, “I love you,” and the audience would laugh nervously, because, you know, it’s a long time ago, that I’d feel this anger. I wanted to stop the tape and go, “What is your problem?” Because it made you sort of very self-conscious about what we were trying to do then. And now it’s just I see it and I just hope people don’t abuse it and shove it in our face, well, that sounds terrible to the point of it just feels like an everyday kind of thing.

[From The Hollywood Reporter]

While Crystal’s comments weren’t necessarily as negative toward gay relationships on TV as originally assumed, he did say that he hopes “people don’t abuse it and shove it in our face” so that it doesn’t feel “like an everyday kind of thing.” At least he clarified his comments quickly.

2015 FOX Winter Television Critics Association All-Star Party

2015 FOX Winter Television Critics Association All-Star Party

2015 FOX Winter Television Critics Association All-Star Party

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  1. Beth says:

    There’s not enough gay romance or gay sex on TV and in movies. I want a gay romantic comedy.

    • Anna says:

      and when there are any gay sex scenes or romantic scenes they’re always so shitty.. like the ones on True Blood, they weren’t anywhere near the ones we were forced to watch with the same straight couples over and over again.

    • littlestar says:

      I do like how they are starting to be more commercials featuring gay couples (like the Tide laundry detergent commercial). They are cute and funny and I think help to show people that guess what, gay couples are similar to straight couples! Not sure if these commercials are airing in the States, but they are on TV here in Canada.

    • Amelia says:

      Check out Cucumber, Banana, Tofu on Channel 4 if you get the chance.
      It’s just started airing here in the UK, some of it is hopefully available to viewers in other countries online. 😀

    • pikny says:

      i am sick of all the sex gay straight etc… jane the virgin was great till female doc and married to man former girlfriend made out.promoting infidility. nobody cares about the sexual proclivities of assorted folk ,,,,dont want to see man or lady bits on tv.

  2. Mispronounced Name Dropper says:

    “I hope people don’t abuse it and shove it in our faces”

    Ugh. You always gotta work blue don’t you, Billy?

  3. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Totally agree about violence being shoved in our face. I don’t really understand what he meant about gay sex and the “everyday thing.”

    • Zimmer says:

      I think there is too much violence and sex in general. Kissing is enough. If one wants sex in the media, there is porn and HBO. There is never a need for more violence, just gives people ideas.

    • littlestar says:

      I agree about the violence too, and also the over-sexualisation of women.

      • MaiGirl says:

        Exactly! How about all of the gratuitous boobs on HBO? I sure feel like THAT is being shoved in my face.

  4. EKP says:

    Do you know what would be worse than making it an “every day kind of thing”? *NOT* making it an every day kind of thing.

    • MoxyLady007 says:

      Exactly. It needs to be an every day thing. Seeing pretend gay sex on tv is not a big deal and shouldn’t be. But people are upset over this and not say…. The daily mass shootings in the USA. Because sex is scarier than death and murder and ruined families. Man. It’s 8am and I just can’t deal with today already. Thanks Billy!

  5. savu says:

    I kind of get what he’s saying in terms of the gratuitous girl-kiss, you know? Give us actual romance instead of just shock factor. I think his argument would be better if he included something to that effect.

    And YES on the violence. THAT is some gratuitous sh*t.

  6. Nerdmomma says:

    Hmm. But it IS an everyday kind of thing. TV is a medium by which we see the spectrum of humanity, and seeing a variety of lifestyles as normal enhances our tolerance and understanding.

    • doofus says:

      “TV is a medium by which we see the spectrum of humanity, and seeing a variety of lifestyles as normal enhances our tolerance and understanding.”

      SO WELL SAID. Thank you.

    • Otaku fairy says:

      Exactly, and if there are certain lifestyles and spectrums of humanity that a person doesn’t feel should be portrayed in the entertainment industry, or that they’re tired of seeing, they ALWAYS have the choice to just not participate in those forms of entertainment. That is, if it’s really about “I don’t want this sexuality shoved in my face” and not a case of “I want to control what sexuality the general public has access to and dictate what can and can’t be portrayed.” That’s the problem I have with the arguments of people on the more traditional side of these little cultural wars.

  7. Lilacflowers says:

    Gay sex IS an every day thing. People need to get over it. If you don’t want to have sex with a person of the same gender, don’t. But don’t dictate how others should live. I’m tired of media depicting a world so different from the one in which I live.

  8. Meandyou says:

    I think his comments are homophobic but at the same time I know so many people who, while they don’t have an issue with gay marriage or gay rights still recoil at the sight of two men kissing. It’s going to be a long time before people see that as normal and one of the ways to do that is by showing more gay relantionships on TV.

    Agree that gratuitous sex in general is not necessary but people will tolerate more what they can relate to.

    • I Choose Me says:

      I know so many people who, while they don’t have an issue with gay marriage or gay rights still recoil at the sight of two men kissing.

      That used to be me. Happily, I got over myself.

  9. Kiddo says:

    “Abuse it and shove it in your face” makes it sound like Billy frequents the S&M porn channel. No judgements Billy, but you can always change the channel.

  10. Aurora says:

    I dont know about Billy but the surge in gay TV characters would be great were it not for the fact they are almost all male. Its like female homosexuality just does not exist. Most of the shows I am currently watching have a gay guy and most have gay love scenes. Only one has lesbian relationships and love scenes, Orange Is The New Black. Game of Thrones ofcourse doesnt count since any lesbian scenes there must be cushioned with the presence of a man. There are no lesbians in GRRRMs world, just ocassionally bi women.

    Its not just that lesbians are invisible, its that any women who do not conform to the cute, feminine type are still ridiculed as part of the “joke”. I mean you can no longer mock effeminate men but butch women or physically muscular women are still game?

    Also, I want to see a side by side comparison between frequency of depictions of gay men on TV versus interracial couples.

    I’m sorry but I do think TV execs need rebalance a lot of these things. Get rid of the double standards and for goodness sake stop casting couples as though this were still 1950.

    • Carrie says:

      Have you watched the Fosters? Its a ABC Family network show with a Lesbian couple that sometimes reminds me of my marriage. There is not a lot of in your face sex but there is some kissing and tender moments.

  11. scout says:

    I wish they say something/opinions with conviction and stick by it rather than come back again to apologize or clarify whatever they said ALA Micheal Moore on “Snipers are cowards, not Heros” and then said “oops,I didn’t mean that” etc. Once it’s out, it’s out like a toothpaste, can’t put it back!

  12. Jess1632 says:

    Do people even care on what this man has to say? So irrelevant in this day and age.

  13. FCH says:

    It’s not the gay sex he should be concerned about but all the gay violence. All those gays being violently gay everywhere…huge problem.

    But seriously, what makes gay sex any more gratuitous than straight sex? There are some shows out there whose writers seem to be looking for any excuse to have a topless woman. I think we have a bigger problem with the sexual objectification of women than we do with actual sex scenes. And the fact that we so often see violence and sexual objectification combined is even worse.

  14. Catk says:

    I hope he meant what he said in his clarification. There’s way too much violence on network television, and not enough sex if Charlie Hunnam is involved. Gay or straight, Charlie should be involved in every scene. Need more gifs.

  15. The Other Katherine says:

    Meh. Go away and make some more crappy comedy, Billy — no one cares about your opinion on this.

  16. Lis says:

    You have to remember he is from a different generation. My husband is 12 years my senior and he squirms during the gay scenes on HTGAWM. It takes some getting used to for people over a certain age who were never exposed to male homosexuality before.
    On the other hand, some people really need to think before speaking.

  17. danielle says:

    I can’t even read this. I love Billy crystal and the idea he would make hateful statements like this makes me sad.

  18. Nicole says:

    Sorry but I have to agree in a way. I feel like many shows now have a “token gay” character. While I’m glad homosexuals have a place in the entertainment industry and are being represented, it does get old. Not every circle of friends and work group has a gay friend/relatives or colleague. It doesn’t seem genuine. What we should be celebrating is actual homosexuals working in the industry successfully! Jim parsons and Ellen page for example.

    • doofus says:

      “Not every circle of friends and work group has a gay friend/relatives or colleague.”

      …that they know of. maybe a “token” gay character will make closeted people feel more comfortable about coming out.

  19. minx says:

    Billy, Billy, Billy.
    As if gay sex on TV is so prevalent.

  20. poppy says:

    What shows on network television even have gay SEX scenes, not just characters? How to Get Away with Murder, Glee (if you count post-coital clothed cuddling…), Grey’s, and …… ?

  21. Javaj77 says:

    I’m really tired of having hetero sex scenes jammed in my face!

  22. lunchcoma says:

    You know what I’m tired of seeing abused and shoved in my face? Heterosexual male sexuality. There are an awful lot of TV shows and movies that I’d enjoy more if the women in the show kept their tops on and the show didn’t try to sell me 22-year-olds playing scientists and 33-year-olds playing the mothers of teenagers.

    Part of evening things out is to have less of that, and part of it is to have a few other scenes that appeal to people who aren’t straight guys. If Billy doesn’t like that, he can look away for a few minutes like I sometimes have to do.

  23. Angelalala says:

    …because heterosexual sex certainly isn’t shoved in anyone’s face.

    (coughSEXBOXcough)

  24. Meg says:

    I totally disagree with your multitude of criticisms on billy crystal-he was great oscars host. Its easy to be controversial-instead he was funny. He’s had a very long career which says something about his talent and his timeless comedic abilities. Why the hatred for Billy crystal?

    The fact that they still define these characters by their sexuality says they’re still not being treated with respect.

  25. nicolenm says:

    I’m sure the gay community feels the same about all the hetero sex that’s ALWAYS being shoved in their faces. Eye roll at Billy.