In Touch: Arkansas DHS called the cops on the Duggars just last month

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Yesterday, I read a brief interview with one of In Touch Weekly’s editors in which the guy said that there was more stuff to come out about the Duggars, and that In Touch Weekly had been on the ground in Arkansas for a few months now and they were still digging up information. While nothing will probably beat In Touch’s exclusive reporting on Josh Duggar’s crimes, I’m interested in seeing how much worse it can get. In Touch Weekly has the Duggar situation on their cover again this week and it’s all about how the Duggars are under investigation AGAIN.

The Duggar family is under investigation again by the Arkansas Department of Human Services and police were called when the family refused to cooperate, In Touch magazine is reporting exclusively in its new issue that hits newsstands today.

A representative from the Washington County DHS called 911 on May 27 at around 11 a.m. asking for police assistance when DHS was not allowed to see the minor they were concerned about. In Touch, which broke the story of Josh Duggar’s sexual molestation scandal, has the full transcript of the emergency call in the new issue.

The new investigation comes as the family tries to save its TLC reality show, 19 Kids and Counting, which the network pulled off the air, while determining its fate. Jim Bob, Michelle and two of their daughters sat for interviews with Fox News, attempting to minimize the damage, but much of what they said was widely condemned as misinformation and not full disclosure.

The Duggars made no mention of the fact that they have been under investigation again, but In Touch discovered what they are hiding via another Freedom of Information Act request that produced the 911 call. After identifying himself as a Washington Country DHS employee and stating the Duggar family address, the caller tells the 911 operator, “We have an investigation and I guess they’re not being cooperative. We have to see the child to make sure the child is all right. So we just need police assistance.”

DHS records are not available to the public so it is unknown what prompted the investigation. Experts tell In Touch that an investigation can be triggered by a hotline complaint, even an anonymous one, if the trained operator determines the allegation is serious enough that it meets standards for child abuse maltreatment laws.

The Duggars were investigated by police in 2006 for Josh’s acts of molestation committed in 2002 and 2003. DHS then investigated the family in 2007, as In Touch first reported.

[From In Touch Weekly]

This is fascinating and horrible. This means the Arkansas Department of Human Services is still actively monitoring the Duggars – or at least one of the Duggar minors – and it means that the Duggars have refused to give DHS access, so that’s why the cops were called. When DHS investigates, cooperation is not optional. It’s good to point that out because the Duggars claimed in their Fox News interviews that they worked with DHS and everything was fine, like they should get extra credit for an entirely mandatory process. They also made it sound like the DHS thing was all over, but if DHS’s investigation/monitoring is still happening, that’s very interesting. It’s also good to point out that nothing in In Touch’s reporting has come from DHS – DHS investigations are seemingly not subject to FOIA requests, so that’s something else the Duggars have lied about.

People Magazine also ran a strangely sympathetic piece yesterday about how residents of Tonititown (the Duggars’ hometown) were feeling sorry for the family because of all the media interest. Like, those poor Duggars, they agreed to Fox News interviews, how terrible. And People just published an “exclusive” on how Jill and Jessa are coping, which just reads like the same Duggar talking points given to Megyn Kelly at Fox News. Jessa and Jill “feel violated” by the press (but oddly not their brother).

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  1. Snazzy says:

    This family, People Magazine, they all make me sick. Bloody hell.
    I’m going back to the X Files piece, it makes me happy

    • Damn says:

      Speaking of X Files, this entire creepy cult reminds be a bit of that episode Home.

    • Harryg says:

      They make me so sick, they are creepy.

      • Harryg says:

        And I can’t stand people posing and grinning next to animals they killed. Idiots.

      • Marg says:

        @Harryg – I’ve also always thought it ridiculous when people pose like that. Like, “Good job! You killed a pig with…what is that, a rocket launcher?!” My son always says when the the animals are armed too THEN you can be proud of yourself for killing one. Dumbasses.

      • supposedtobeworking says:

        @Marg, love it : )

      • Reeely?? says:

        This is why I cancelled my cable. I don’t’ want to pay to watch the human tragedy over and over as if they are bugs in a glass box. Of course unchecked molestation goes on in an huge family of mixed gender children whose parent’s sole goals are to procreate. It’s a gross freak show and I’m not paying money to get offended.

      • jwoolman says:

        Marg- reminds me of a video game where the deer did become armed and turned the tables on the hunters. The cover had a rather realistic-looking male deer with full antlers, ammunition belts across his chest, and a weapon in his arms, er, forelegs, and a vengeful look in his eye.

    • MoxyLady007 says:

      My mom is 1 of 18 children. If the duggars are anything like my family – and uncle pedo sure seems to say that they are – there is so much other horrific insane shit going on that will never come to light. But also there is layers and layers of abuse going on that are hard to even explain to outsiders. You say “we do a lot of chores” but what you mean is you are at the back and call of your parents. You never have a moment to yourself. Your time is not and is never your own. You are mocked and degraded in so many ways. It just sucks.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        I have known three very large families in my lifetime and all three were highly unhealthy in their child-rearing. The older kids are the real parents to the younger ones. The middle ones on down did not get the attention they needed. The emotional manipulation of the older ones was off the charts and the younger ones grew up to be very resentful of their parents for having so many kids. And, that is not including the financial struggles and mental and physical health issues of the mothers because – news flash: women are not meant to be pregnant every single year of their adult life. All fell back on their “beliefs” for having so many kids, but there was nothing wholesome about any of it – more like mass chaos and surival of the fittest. The kids were not close to eachother. They fought and were hateful toward eachother due to competition and resenting having to take care of younger siblings all the time rather than having a life of their own. Younger siblings weren’t treated well by older ones and resented them. None of it was good.

        There is a woman at my work who right now is pregnant with her 8 child. Her husband is currently in jail due to back child support for children with other women and they don’t have two pennies to rub together. They are the continual charity case at their church. But if you ask her, she says if God didn’t want her to keep having babies, he wouldn’t keep letting her get pregnant. I don’t think she realizes God isn’t the one doinking her w/no birth control.

      • Duchess of Corolla says:

        I think it is logistically impossible to properly raise that many children, and environmentally irresponsible to give birth to that many in the first place. You are right…there is probably SO much more that will never be known…really sad for the kids.

    • celine says:

      Yes, come on, let’s go back to Scully and Mulder please. Looking at that Duggar woman makes me want to vomit.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Besides the obvious vomit-induciing sex assault/incest scandal, her hair is also making me want to urp. Who in this day and age still gets perms while trying to have straight bangs….and why?

      • funfactor says:

        I couldn’t find that “Home” episode on Netflix–very disappointed. Sounds like I missed a good one.

  2. QQ says:

    These People are absolutely Revolting, But I’ve been violently pushing that Car Horn For Years, They aren’t quaint, or endearing or Industrious, These are Glassy eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I can hardly look at their hideous faces without being sick. Those hypocritical, holier-than-thou, let us show you the way, lying…what did you call them – Glassy eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus. I’d like to smash that smug look off of his fat face.

    • Soporificat says:

      “These are Glassy eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus”

      This perfect description of them. I’m not even sure I know what it means, but it is perfect.

      You should be a writer, QQ!

      • Shambles says:

        I didn’t know what it meant either, but it started a fire in my bones. Tell em, QQ!

    • Emma - the JP Lover says:

      @QQ, who wrote: “These are Glassy eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus”

      🙂

      🙂

      🙂 That is, without a doubt, the best line of the year. Salute!

    • Giddy says:

      But, but, what about the darling picture of Michelle and Jim Bob sharing a milkshake? So wholesome, so nausea inducing.

      ” Glassy eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus” is the best! Kudos!!!

      • holly hobby says:

        They are too f—– old to pose like teenagers. That picture makes my stomach turn. Their faces make me sick.

    • belle de jour says:

      Note to Christopher Guest: “Glassy Eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus”

      You have already blessed my entire day, QQ.

    • Liberty says:

      QQ, what an amazing comment and way to describe them. Perfect.

    • pikny says:

      0mfg “glassy eyed bunny mares” too funny.

    • I Choose Me says:

      “Glassy Eyed Bunny Mares for Jesus” Hahahahaha. That description is so freaking apt it is scary.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      Hilarious description but have to note I don’t think Jesus wants them bunny maring for him. They make him look bad.

    • Duchess of Corolla says:

      +1,000,000!

      And, for the record, Michelle’s brainwashed facial expression makes me ill.

    • RN says:

      After reading your comment this morning, I went out to go take care of my animals in my barn. As I was feeding the rabbits, your statement echoed in my head and I kept laughing. Well played, QQ. And I agree with you. Back when everyone was swooning over this family, I was already side-eyeing them. Fundies don’t change stripes. When you censor and repress healthy expressions of sexuality and thought, they will find other, less-desirable ways to present themselves.

  3. savu says:

    I know there were whispers about it (never paid attention to this family til now), but props to the employees at DHS for this not being leaked til now. Police? Very different story. But DHS is supposed to act in the interest of the children, and I’m glad to see that their privacy was protected here. Celebrity or not, those kids didn’t ask to be on a tv show, didn’t ask to be in the middle of this. I’m glad they’re still investigating though. And that the cops have been so good about following FOIA laws. Police records are total fair game.

  4. bettyrose says:

    ITW is doing serious investigative journalism? Like, they’re going to break a cult-wide conspiracy to hide child abuse?

    • Shambles says:

      I know, right? I’m impressed. And scared of what’s to come.

    • lucy2 says:

      Seems that way! Crazy, isn’t it? I always wonder how that happens, but every once in a while a tabloid stops making up stupid celebrity stories, and nails something really newsworthy. I’m really glad they broke this story, such terrible abuse.

      • jwoolman says:

        Didn’t the National Enquirer do something like that? Investigate and run with a real story?

      • Savannah says:

        Tiger Woods is one “real story” that comes to mind. Also the John Edwards/Rielle Hunter affair & child.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        Yes, NE broke the story of then Presidential candidate John Edwards, his mistress and love child. While his wife was dying of cancer, he was having an affair, and running a campaign thinking he could keep that secret.

    • Christin says:

      True investigative journalism is so rare nowadays.

      I guess People’s idea of ‘investigative journalism’ is to talk to not one, but two publicists.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Chuckle.

      • GetOffYourHighHorse says:

        Lol

      • tigerlily says:

        Isn’t People magazine also known as “kneepads”? As in always on their knees to publicists? Makes me sick. As do these horrid “reality” shows. Glad summer is here and I can go outside more-had it up to here with this family, 600lb peeps, pawn”stars”, nekkid and afraid….etcetc. And yet when I was single way back when, I either stayed home Friday nights to watch the X Files or set my VHS to tape it….ah the good old days.

    • PoppyAdair says:

      It makes sense to me. The Duggars routinely cooperate with ITW’s competitor, People. What better way to boost ITW’s circulation numbers and hurt People’s reputation than by investigating their pet cash cows? As it turned out, ITW legally found a bunch of dirt People and the Duggars were trying to hide.

      Just because ITW is known as a splashy gossip rag does not mean it does not have real journalists on its staff. Apparently it also has the money to pay for good lawyers and investigators as well as the intestinal fortitude to keep calling out the Duggars on their BS. Good on them.

      • Liberty says:

        I heard that as newspapers lay off real reporters, these journalists sometimes must take jobs at things like ITW to keep working, naturally. Good for whoever ITW hired, who has the focus and skills and grit to bring this horrible stuff to light to help children.

    • holly hobby says:

      Can they tackle $cientology and that little midget that runs the whole phony show too?

  5. Shambles says:

    Huge props to InTouch for sticking to their guns, and calling out the bullsh!t these people continue to spew. I love that their article straight-up says the Duggars tried to minimize everything, but it was all misinformation and lies. Hell yeah.

    As far as this new piece of info, my blood runs cold. This is exactly like the initial Josh story– very vague, lacking in detail, leading all of us to wonder and some of us to give them the benefit of the doubt. Then, the very next day, all the details came out. So brace yourselves, my loves, it’s probably about to get even nastier. I don’t know how much more of this we can take. *pours shots for the celebitches*

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah InTouch busted out the firing squad huh?

      I’m scared to hear the details…

    • Wren says:

      You know what? I hope so. I hope this mad scramble to cover their asses results in everything coming to light, disgusting and disturbing as it may be. Because whatever it was has already happened, the damage has been done and ignoring it won’t undo it. On the contrary, laying it all bare may save others in the future.

      Already InTouch has given credence to what we’ve heard from survivors of this cult for years, which is a huge step in the right direction. Remember when Scientology was still shrouded in mystery and most people either weren’t aware of it or shrugged it off as just weirdos being weird? And now there’s been exposay after exposay on them in mainstream media, revealing just what kind of sick assholes they are.

      These types of cults thrive on being able to present exactly what they want to the world and nothing more. Ripping off the cloak of secrecy weakens them enormously. There will always be those who defend them to the death, but as their layers are stripped away, more and more people will see them for what they are.

  6. aims says:

    Pandora’s box is opened now and all their dirty little secrets are coming out. I was reading an interview about the Brown family. They’re the large Mormon family who’s kids all went to Juilliard. Incredibly talented people. A few years ago, it came out that their father was molesting his daughters and he finally went to jail for his crimes. The daughters were asked about their opinion of the Dugger family. One of the girls said,” if it looks to good to be true, then something’s off.” I think she’s absolutely right.

    I think we’re just scratching on the surface here. I don’t believe there’s just a few incidents. I’m also glad to hear Arkansas dns is not bought off or influenced by this sick, weird ass family.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I have always instinctively known that these people were hiding something sick. Anyone who is that hung up on sex and keeping their girls “pure” has something to hide.

      • whipmyhair says:

        If you have rules where father and daughter only side hug, then something is wrong with your perceptions of sex.

        Side hugs only. Boys wear long pants. Girls wear skirts or dresses.

        Because if a male and female wear shorts and front hug, who knows what will happen? The only thing we know is that it will be the woman’s fault.

      • Kitten says:

        Yes you’ve always said that, GNAT.

      • Liberty says:

        GNAT, yup.

      • I Choose Me says:

        It’s always good to trust you instincts GNAT. While I regret the harm that was done to the girls (whether they’re free to admit it or not) I’m so glad all of their dirt is coming to light.

      • BooBooLaRue says:

        Amen to that, I wonder if Jim Bob himself is entirely innocent. . .shudder to say that, but. . .

    • Wren says:

      Such truth. If it looks too good to be true, it probably isn’t.

      While I won’t claim that I “always knew something was wrong with them!”, their complete obsession with sex and purity has seemed extremely unhealthy at best and I’m not at all surprised that all this has come to light. What always got me was that through the claims of purity and chasteness you could see that they were FAR more obsessed with sex than the “godless lustful heathens” they denounce. Like, chill out, godless heathen I may be but I’m not the one bringing up my sex life at every opportunity.

      • Tdub30 says:

        THIS exactly. WHO in the 20/21st century thinks that creating an army of children is the logical thing to do. We’re no longer living in times where parents birth their work force, nor do they run a farm and yet, here you have all of these kids. That seems slightly obsessive to me. This family is odd and they’re pushing their odd agendas on the world at large and it is sooo creepy.

      • Liberty says:

        Haha, this!!!! How true, I mean, their preoccupation with sex and side hugs etc is ridiculous, extreme and so obsessive, there isn’t a big enough side-eye.

    • *North*Star* says:

      Yep.

      And abusers generally learn their abuse from someone — most abuse starts somewhere. Apples rarely fall far from their tree.

      Clearly Josh learned about power differences and exploitation of the powerless somewhere, the question is where and by whom.

      That might be the real story. And one that’ll make most people: angry, sad, vomit, and revolted (among many other feelings).

      • Miran says:

        While I’m afraid I’m going to be wrong on this, I hope it’s not Jim Bob. If it is……those poor children.

      • doofus says:

        “Clearly Josh learned about power differences and exploitation of the powerless somewhere”

        it’s dogma in the cult they belong to. he learned from his parents and the teachings of the “church”.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Agreed. It seems like too much of a coincidence that Jim Bob just happened to take Josh to the child predator in the police force to talk about Josh’s issues with being a child predator.

      • *North*Star* says:

        Miran,

        Yep. Poor all of them if it’s Jim Bob.

        doofus,

        I don’t doubt their religious culture plays into it as well. Women and children, after all, are property according to many religions. So anything that happens to them, good or bad, is according to God’s will (or so they claim).

        Tiffany :),

        Like attracts like???????

      • BooBooLaRue says:

        Opps thank you, I am thinking the same here. Shudders with revulsion.

  7. Christin says:

    I hope that any and every lie is promptly exposed. The sugar coating of violating children has been disgusting.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I totally agree. They are disgusting and I hope whatever they are hiding now can be exposed before any more harm can be done to those children.

      • Snazzy says:

        And then People Magazine in all of this, strangely protecting them? I am so lost on why they thing this is a good idea. Those poor, poor children

      • FLORC says:

        Much harm is already done. They need to be reprogrammed.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        People Mag has lost it with protecting the Duggars, saying the relationship between a 17 year old and a 25 year old was cute or adorable or whatever they said…I guess they have promoted the Duggars so much that they are cya?

        Oh FLORC, yes I know much damage has already been done.

      • TeaAndSympathy says:

        Gosh, this is sickening. We in Australia have had our share of child sex abuse with two very high-profile celebrities, Rolf Harris and Robert Hughes. It was the same with them when news of the allegations first broke – vague, wishy-washy explanations and bad memories… We currently have a Royal Commission underway for sexual abuse within churches, schools, community organisations etc. Thankfully, there is no statute of limitations here, and quite a few people have been imptisoned for historical sexual abuse of children.

        These Duggars…Ugh. I don’t know why, but I keep forgetting that there are still little children living in that family. It’s not until I’m reminded of this with reports like the one above and that last photo (…!) that I start thinking of the little ones still under the influence of this pair of despicable lying, hypocritical loonies.

        The Duggars are nobodies in Australia, but the issue itself is all too familiar to us. I find all the comments on this thread really thoughtful and intelligent, and appreciate the sometimes necessary levity. This is the only gossip site I visit, and the only site I comment on. I don’t have any social networking accounts, either, but I do read voraciously. Thank you, everyone, for sharing your incisive and interesting opinions.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      The thing that bothers me the most about this, is that their defense was based on the idea that child molestation in a family is no big deal, just a minor thing not worthy of concern.

    • Michelle says:

      Ironically IF they had cooperated with DHS in May there wouldn’t have been a 911 call or police report. They brought the investigation upon themselves.

      I am still surprised JimBob even went to the police regarding Josh. I would think he would just have let the church handle it. Maybe he was concerned about the non-family member victim.

  8. weirswalker says:

    The Duggar’s are “mandatory reporters”, because they are home schoolers in the state of Arkansas..when are they going to be charged, and their license to home school going to be revoked ?

    • GByeGirl says:

      Actually, every person over 18 in this country is a “mandatory reporter” of child abuse.

      • kiren says:

        that is correct — all adults are mandated to report suspected or known abuse or neglect — this became law in the wake of the Sandusky case

      • Olenna says:

        I just shivered at the mention of Sandusky. Even now, the thought of him and his network of deniers and accomplices makes me feel sick.

      • Bess says:

        Well, that’s one good thing to come out of the Sandusky case.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        That’s not correct — mandatory reporting laws are state by state, not federal. Less than half of U.S. states make all persons aged 18 and older mandatory reporters.

    • Cindy says:

      Yes, this is really important. I want to see the Duggars face charges. I am no legal expert but child endangerment comes to mind, as well as failure to report the molester.

      I see michelle so differently now. I never watched the show, but the clips of her and that baby voice led me to believe she was really passive. Now, I see that the baby voice was a manipulative tool to hide her coldness.

      • Liberty says:

        I once read an article discussing a possible theory that childlike voices in adult women can be one of the tells of early sexual abuse or childhood trauma. Dr. Drew Pinsky talked about it, I believe. Not the terrible annoying fashionable little-girl voice thing going on with the Kardashian types, that is another issue!

      • Betti says:

        @liberty – could be that she talks that way to keep Jim Bob away from the girls. I.e. if she pretends to be a little girl he won’t wander off.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        I see it as another way of proving her submission to him and still trying to be sexy or young to him. Either way, it’s super affected (intentional) and annoying.

      • kiren says:

        yes that is correct. The Federal Child Treatment and Prevention Act set minimum standards of defining child abuse/neglect but yes each state determines what constitutes child abuse/neglect and it varies, as does who is required to report.
        According to the Children’s Bureau, as of 11/13, 18 states mandate all competent adults to report. I’m at work and I can’t do more research this afternoon, so I’m not sure in which states this is a requirement. However I did see that in July 2012, Florida enacted legislation that makes it a felony if an adult fails to report.

  9. SuZQ says:

    The Duggars basically sold their children’s souls to the devil, TLC. They gambled their children’s privacy, self esteem and identity for 30 million pieces of silver.

    The Duggar parents got a buttload of cash, and the children got screwed. I love my children: thus, I would not allow cameras to follow them around like some perverted peeping tom before they were old enough to give permission. Not for a million dollars, not for 100 million dollars. I do not have the right to take my children’s choice of privacy away: no parent does.

    Kids get ONE childhood, and they need to be able to mess their pants and mess up in other areas without it being played in everyone’s living rooms for entertainment. It was just a matter of time before the family secrets popped to the surface. There are lots more, even more salacious then this.

    I hope the Duggars think that prostituting their children to TLC was worth it. That is child abuse in the most disgusting form. The kids will be the ones bearing the scars for a lifetime.

    They have taught their kids to prostitute themselves and their children to the TV god: now they all want their own shows where their children can be put on display like the circus ‘freaks’ of the past. At least the hookers that stand on street corners don’t bring their infants along to be sold to the highest bidder. What a disgusting, quivering, dysfunctional, perverted, Duggaring family.

    Save the family from total ruin: cancel this show immediately and put something worth learning on THE LEARNING CHANNEL

  10. lile says:

    These people are the definition of the word creepy. I have never watched their show but saw a piece of an interview and it was scary. The are a Stepford family! Those that feel the need to push their religion down the throats of others so zealously are usually trying to hide something. They reminded me of Manson’s followers with the glassy eyed adoration. Creepy AF.

  11. Mich says:

    I want to know why DHS is trying to check on a specific minor. Josh is no longer in that house and hasn’t been for years. What the hell else is going on?

    Sorry Ma & Pa Duggar, you created this entire situation. No pity for you.

    • Amy says:

      Yeah I believe my fears may be close to being confirmed of another child still being touched with everyone in the family’s knowledge.

      Or maybe one of the younger boys is picking up where Josh left off, they certainly have enough kids to hit a percentage.

    • Neelyo says:

      Call it a hunch or intuition, but maybe checking out Jim Bob?

    • Betti says:

      History repeating itself – one of the older boys could be showing the same ‘behaviour’ as Josh – giving credence to what others here think, which is Josh turned toward his brothers when his sisters became ‘off limits’. Often someone who is abused becomes an abuser.

    • doofus says:

      “What the hell else is going on?”

      DISCLAIMER: I have NO evidence to support this theory, it’s just instinct/intuition…

      I think Dim Bulb is a molester. I think that he molested at least one of his daughters. This was the man who sent (according to a viewer, I’ve never watched) his six-year old (SIX!!!) to change because he said her dress and leggings (not sheer or semi-sheer tights or stockings, but leggings) were “too revealing” or “inappropriate”.

      who sees a six year old (any six year old but in this case your own daughter?!) as a sexual being, except a pedophile?…bunch of sick f*cks…

      • NorthernGirl_20 says:

        I’m afraid of that being the case as well. Like GNAT said above, anyone this obsessed with sex and keeping girls ‘pure ‘ has something to hide.

      • belle de jour says:

        This ^^^ was my initial hunch too, doofus.

        Then I had another creepy & queasy shiver-thought: what is the extent of the baby-voiced little wife’s role as enabler in all of this?

      • AH says:

        Google “Duggar” and “Nike.”

        Spoiler alert – bring a barf bag.

      • Wren says:

        Makes you wonder if perhaps Josh learned this behavior somewhere, and if so, what other kids in that family may follow in those footsteps. Ugh. I don’t want to make wild accusations, but at this point I’m willing to believe the worst.

      • forever2lines says:

        Just googled dugger nike and I am floored the girls are in charge of their brothers and father keeping it zipped. Insane.

      • Giddy says:

        I also just googled Duggar and Nike. OMG no one ever told me that Arkansas was so full of harlots and loose women (sarcasm) that the poor Duggar men needed to be protected from their own rebellious reactions. This family is sick.

      • AH says:

        @Forever and Giddy,

        I KNOW, RIGHT??!

        Out of all this fetid crap oozing out from underneath this family, that “Nike” thing is, quite honestly, one of the most disturbing things I’ve heard about them.

        That is all 31 flavors of F-CKED THE HELL UP.

      • jwoolman says:

        I don’t think the “change your clothes” incident means Dim…er, Jim Bob is a molester. That and similar behaviors might well have been their reaction to Josh’s actions years ago. They think that it could have been prevented somehow if the girls dressed differently. A crock, I know. But that’s what they believe. They weren’t necessarily blaming the girls but just looking for things that could explain it and so could be fixed. Their isolation prevented them from consulting widely enough to realize that Josh’s actions were not caused by what the girls were wearing.

    • The Other Katherine says:

      It could also easily be physical abuse. Google Michelle Duggar and blanket training.

      • Anastasia says:

        That’s what I’m thinking, too. Physical abuse plus Jim Bob has been molesting the kids.

        🙁

  12. Veronica says:

    Nothing about this is shocking to anybody familiar with the history around inclusive , cultish communities. It’s just sad that a country that harangues others for their treatment of young women blinds itself to what goes on its own back yard.

  13. Lucinda says:

    DHS may not have been actively monitoring the Duggars at the time of the police call. They may have gotten a tip from the hotline and were investigating to see if the tip was founded. If it was unfounded, nothing else would have happened most likely. The Duggars really screwed themselves by refusing to let the worker see the child. Now it could also have been an ongoing case but we don’t know yet.

    • littlestar says:

      I think it says a lot that they refused to let the worker see the child in question. If there’s nothing to hide, why not just let them in your house and get it over with, right?

    • jwoolman says:

      To be honest, an investigation by DHS doesn’t mean anything happened. They have to investigate any report, erring on the side of safety. Sometimes hotlines especially are called out of vengeance- happened in our town, a troubled 15 year old made false accusations of abuse against a teacher. And the corrupt DA (later convicted of various crimes himself) ran with it, virtually ruining the man’s career. Anyway, a lot of people don’t like the Duggars so that kind of thing could happen. They never should have refused to cooperate, although that could be their general paranoia about us heathens rather than anything to hide. Is the investigation finished? If police were not further involved (other than to convince them to let the social workers see the child), there might be no story there.

  14. Kiddo says:

    That top photo is beyond corny. They are channeling some 1950’s teens after a sock hop. Does anyone else find it ridiculous? It just feels incredibly manipulating, taking wholesomeness imagery to a level of cliche, but maybe my feelings are irrational.

    • Christin says:

      The pose and the photo bugs me as well. Fake, fake wholesomeness.

      I would have enjoyed being a 1950s teen. My parents spoke of how wonderful those years were for them as teens (not perfect, but just the whole era was truly nice, they said). This image tarnishes my dream era!

      • Kiddo says:

        I watch old movies a lot. For some reason, I just don’t love most of the 50’s era films as much as other decades. But that is art and maybe not indicative of the time period, overall, and only my opinion.

      • M.A.F. says:

        Eh, people still have a backwards notion of the 50’s. The term “teenager” did come out of the 50’s but that is about as good as it gets (oh, and the music). The economy was terrible (two recessions), Second Red Scare, The Korean War (the forgotten war) as well as the beginning of the Vietnam War and if you were any color other than white your life wasn’t that great.

      • Christin says:

        My parents enjoyed a small town life and I know my Dad loved the cars of the mid-1950s. They were not rich by any means, but have each described that it was just a good time to be young (high school age). Again, not perfect, but just a kinder time when you could actually leave doors unlocked.

      • Neonscream says:

        Yeah the 50s were great, if you were a white middle class person (especially a man) kind of like now really.

    • Shambles says:

      Not irrational at all, Kiddo. I said below that it makes me feel sick to my stomach, so you’re definitely not alone. I get the feeling that it was staged by Jim Bob, and I imagine him saying something like, “let’s get another keen selfie too add to our wholsesome family image corkboard!” It all feels very manipulative now. Michelle could have wanted it too, but the frightened baby squirrel look she always has in her eyes makes me feel like she’s just sedated and being pulled along for the ride.

      • Kiddo says:

        “frightened baby squirrel look” is funny, and yet encourages me to take sympathy on her, since baby squirrels are adorable.

      • Shambles says:

        I think my mind would just prefer to be occupied by adorable baby fur-creatures at this point.

      • Kitten says:

        Squirrels in general are amazing. Athletically, they’re my heroes.

        Oh, and I agree with your analysis of that creepy photo, Kiddo.
        *shivers*

    • poppy says:

      it is beyond ridiculous considering both were born in the mid 1960s and started dating in the 80s.
      if they’re going to appropriate a time, they ought to choose a time where women were burned at the stake, because you know, withches if you dare have a free thought or don’t cow-tow to a man whilst in possession of a uterus.

    • I Choose Me says:

      Not irrational at all. I couldn’t scroll past that sh*t fast enough. Still better than that vom inducing pic they posted mimicking Jessa and Ben kiss photo.

      • Norman Bates' Mother says:

        It’s hard to look at any of their pictures, but the most sickening one for me is still the one where Josh was cupping his pregnant wife’s stomach from behind and Jim-Bob and pregnant Michelle were next to them mimicking their pose (both babies were then born 1 or 2 days apart) – so many underlying issues shown in one simple photo.

  15. Brittney B says:

    PLEASE include a content warning before photos of dead animals. I was already sick to my stomach reading about their refusal to cooperate… but I didn’t expect to see a bunch of proud, smiling idiots gathered around a defenseless animal they slaughtered for fun. (No matter what you believe about population control — you know, killing the animals whose habitats we destroyed, because they dare to continue existing — taking joy in it is barbaric.)

    I know there are plenty of commenters who eat pig products and/or condone hunting… but there are lots of animal lovers on these threads too, and I can’t be the only one whose morning was just ruined.

    The fact that they take pleasure in taking lives says it all, though. I really hope DHS intervenes — and FAST — if children are still being abused. Brainwashing may take years to reverse, but it’s never too late to try. Kudos to InTouch for keeping at it.

    • Kiddo says:

      Brittany, anything that covers the Duggars, at this point, should be considered “Enter at your own risk”, since their explosion in media coverage has to do with child molestation.

    • Poink517 says:

      Thank you. Animal lover here as well, and that picture was upsetting. There’s only so much I can handle after reading about this horrible abuse.

    • Betsy says:

      Brittney B – I don’t understand hunting for fun (long stretches of sitting still in buggy locations at weird hours punctuated by loud noises to kill something? I don’t get it), but wild hogs are not defenseless and are damaging to the ecosystem.

    • TrustMOnThis says:

      Cosign. The story itself is bad enough!

    • lisa says:

      ita brittany, i wouldnt have opened the thread had i known

    • Neonscream says:

      What about all the people who take smiling selfies while they chow down on food that usually contains animal products. Is it really any less problematic from a moral standpoint if your meat was killed by someone else?

  16. Shambles says:

    Also: can we retire the milkshake photo? It makes me physically ill.

  17. GByeGirl says:

    I’m not in any way defending this family, I just wonder if the most recent event might be due to a random phone call to DHS from someone with no connection. Is it possible that someone across the country could just make a call and pretend they have inside info?

    I do think that every call needs to be investigated, but it doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility that there could be fake calls now that it’s such a public issue.

    • Swack says:

      There must have been sufficient reason to investigate. The article states that they are trained to determine if there is reason to investigate. Of you have nothing to hide then you should cooperate. I had DFS called on me by a neighbor because her dog bit my two year old grandchild and his mom called animal control to report the bite. She was mad that her dog was quarinteed. I cooperated as I had nothing to hide and her allegations were nonsense.

    • AH says:

      Or someone out there, somewhere, wants to draw as much of the authorities’ attention they can get because there are things going on in that family that trump even THIS disgusting mess.

    • Scarlet Vixen says:

      If some random Joe from Illinois calls the hotline with a ‘tip’ it will most likely not be investigated. DHS/CPS employees are trained to determine which calls are valid and which calls are bogus. They do get a lot of calls that aren’t valid, and unfortunately don’t have the man power to thoroughly investigate every valid situation, so being able to discern which reports are valid is very important.

    • BearcatLawyer says:

      I should think the parents’ interview last week on Fox gave DHS reason enough to investigate. Locking children in their bedrooms every night is per se unsafe.

      Moreover, since one of the prior victims still living in the home remains a minor and the parents and the older sisters both minimized Josh’s crimes and lied through their teeth on national TV, DHS has every reason to continue to monitor her situation. I would argue too that DHS should open new investigations on any other minor children who have regular contact with Josh and/or the parents since the Fox coverage last week made it crystal clear that no one in that family understands the seriousness of sexual abuse and the need to GENUINELY protect the victims – NOT the perpetrator!

      One of the saddest cases I have ever dealt with involved a young teenage girl who was fondled and raped by her youth minister at her church when she was 12-13. She was struggling with her parents’ caustic divorce and the fact that her father had remarried and started a new family with a woman who did not want this girl around. She and her mother moved here after the divorce, and she found some solace by joining her church’s youth group and making new friends. The youth minister apparently groomed her for several months by offering pastoral counselling to her (after getting permission from her mother, of course, because what parent is going to turn down a minister trying to help a child overcome the trauma of her parents’ divorce?) before the first incident of molestation occurred. But his behaviour quickly escalated and soon she was being forced to service him every week. This went on for nearly a year.

      She initially was terrified to tell her mother or a teacher or someone else at the church about the abuse because everyone thought this youth minister was the best guy ever! He had convinced her that no one would ever believe her if she tried to bust him and everyone would just say she was a crazy liar because after all she HAD been getting counselling from him. I do not remember exactly what led her to eventually report him and as I recall there was some kind of DNA evidence, but he was arrested, charged, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison. The church’s insurance carrier also negotiated a confidential settlement with the girl and her mother for failing to adequately supervise the youth minister.

      Unfortunately for this girl, the church and her so-called friends in the youth group completely turned their backs on her and accused her of lying and “ruining an innocent man’s life.” Some of the youth group kids attended the same junior high that she did and spread the story around her school too. They also claimed that she and her mother had lied about the abuse just so they could “sue the church and get rich.”

      I met this girl after she first attempted suicide and had to be hospitalized. Her mother wisely pulled her out of her school, arranged to homeschool herself, and found a competent child psychiatrist and psychologist to treat her after she was released from the hospital. The mother did everything in her power to help her daughter and followed a very detailed safety plan that she worked out with her daughter’s doctors and therapists which included things like disposing of/locking up anything the house that might be remotely dangerous and never leaving her daughter unsupervised at home – even just for five minutes.

      Despite all the people who tried to help this poor girl, she managed to hide a razor blade from her mother and killed herself one night when she was 15. Her suicide note was one of the saddest things I have ever read. She reassured her mother, physicians, and therapists that there was nothing they could have done to stop her but she simply could not cope any longer. All the horrors which that minister and the purported Christians at her church and school visited upon her were just too much to bear.

      Now you all know why I am so interested in finding a way to prosecute the Duggars. Sexual abuse can have lifelong, permanent consequences for the victims and the people who care about them. It makes me sick when I see their smarmy faces trying to explain away Josh’s crimes, their cover ups, and all the lies. I want to violently rage punch the TV when they focus on themselves and Josh instead of on his victims and what they suffered.

      Okay, I need to go have a good cry now. F%^& these jerks.

      • Christin says:

        What an incredibly sad situation and terrible ending for that poor girl.

        My interest in this family’s fiasco is primarily because I believe they are minimizing serious abuse issues, which in turn sets back child molestation awareness by years. That they (or the guy you described) have any supporters who still defend them is frustrating.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        What an incredibly powerful post. Thank you so much for sharing.

        One of the most horrific things about this whole ordeal is that the family (and its supporters) are treating sexual abuse as if it is not a big deal. The Quiverful church’s teachings show that sexual abuse only hurts the “body”, the least important part of a person. As their “soul” is not touched, it does no harm to that important part of a person. As your story so tragically illustrates, sexual abuse inflicts deep trauma on a person. It can be emotionally devastating.

        Your post does a good service in that it reminds us all about the seriousness of the issue. This is not something to be swept under the rug or ignored.

      • Sam H x says:

        That is so awful 😭😭 It makes me cry to read what that young lady endured & the horrible individuals who spread those nasty rumours she had to deal with. I hope the mother doesn’t blame herself. She did the best she could to help her daughter.

        There are some horrible people on this planet.

        The daughters should be blaming the parents because they are the ones who pimped them out on a reality show for the almighty dollar. They had no choice in signing away their privacy. One way or another any skeletons were bound to come out some point down the line. What a disturbing set of parents they are!

        I’m guessing the Human Services is the equivalent to what we have in England is social services?

        They just made themselves look even more guilty then they are already are by denying that request. In Touch Weekly seem to get majority of their stories correct.

      • BearcatLawyer says:

        Christin, YES! I am terrified that the coverage of this case and especially the widespread support Josh and his parents have received will have a chilling effect on other victims. How many abused children are hearing about this story and thinking, “I can’t tell anyone. No one will believe me. My abuser will not be punished. Everyone will judge me.”? I did not believe for a minute that the girl in my case was the youth minister’s only victim. She was simply the only one brave enough to not only report him but also follow through and prosecute. She also had a mother who believed her and supported her and was determined to get her daughter all the help in the world. I did not mention it in my prior post, but before she was withdrawn from school, her mother had repeatedly complained to the principal and her teachers about the harassment of the other kids. From what I remember, the school administrators did not want to deal with the situation at all. It was just easier for them to pretend that they didn’t see or hear what was happening to her. Some idiot teacher actually told the mother that her daughter should expect her peers to act like this and that she would be better off “getting a fresh start” at a new school where “the whole sordid, shameful story” might not be known. That sweet child lost her innocence and then lost her mind because all around her were adults that did not/could not/would not protect her and even blamed her for being raped.

        Tiffany, the Quiverfull doctrine is disturbing in many aspects, but thanks for sharing this particular teaching – which is utter and complete BS. The girl in my case suffered no long term physical consequences of her abuse (no STDs, no pregnancies, no fistulas, etc.), but the emotional scars were severe. She completely lost her previously strong faith in God and obviously wanted nothing to do with church or religion again. Even though her name was never disclosed in the media or the court’s public records, she was convinced that everyone knew her as the girl whose youth minister raped her and she would never escape that characterization. She felt that the teachers who did not intervene when kids were harassing her at school did not believe her, and she felt so ashamed about all these random people hearing and talking about her abuse. In the end she thought death was the only way to find peace.

        So when the Duggars act like what Josh did was no big deal and that because God and his victims have (allegedly) forgiven him so we should too, my blood boils. When TLC fails to forcefully condemn sexual abuse and encourage victims to report the crimes and Duggar supporters blame everyone except Josh and his parents for this story coming to light, I want to weep. The soul of at least one little girl I once knew was harmed beyond repair.

        Sam H, the mother will never be the same again. This was her only child, and it haunts her that the last three years of her daughter’s life were so hellish. While she has occasionally wondered if she could have done more to protect her child, she puts the blame squarely on the person it belongs to: the youth minister who created this whole situation.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “So when the Duggars act like what Josh did was no big deal and that because God and his victims have (allegedly) forgiven him so we should too, my blood boils. When TLC fails to forcefully condemn sexual abuse and encourage victims to report the crimes and Duggar supporters blame everyone except Josh and his parents for this story coming to light, I want to weep.”

        I share your feelings 100%. I will weep with you.

      • Ash says:

        Thank you for sharing the young girl’s story, BearcatLawyer. I think it’s one of the saddest things I’ve ever read.

  18. Amy says:

    Well when the lesson is: “Lock the girls in at night and keep your mouths shut” would anyone be shocked if one of their other sons picked up where Josh left off.

    Their religion/cult breeds abusers and sadly I side-eye the men who’ve married the daughters. Even if the words are never spoken abusers can sense a vulnerable victim like prey.

    • AH says:

      I have no doubt those girls are just trading one bad family situation for another one. Out of the frying pan and into the fire, as they say. They’ll have half a dozen kids by the time they’re 30 and secretly hate the life of servitude they’ve been trained to accept and endure.

      But then, they’ve also been trained to smile psychotically and simper their way through it like IQ-challenged schoolgirls in pigtails, so they’ll be alright.

    • Lucky Charm says:

      I’ve always wondered why one of the older boys (Joseph or Josiah, can’t remember which) was always being sent to the A.L.E.R.T. Academy for reprogramming. I always thought that was strange he has been several times. Now I have to wonder if he wasn’t one of Josh’s victims, too, and started acting out after Josh got married.

      • winterwilde says:

        18 yr old Josiah spent so much time at that Alert camp, he could have called it his second home. I personally thought he was sent to “pray the gay away”, but there could have been other reasons, but as soon as he ended his almost 2 years at camp, he was immediately hooked up with a 17 yr old girl for COURTING and you know with the Duggars if a kid is COURTING, then MARRIAGE is the next logical step.

        I question why he is allowed to publicly court when there are several OLDER siblings who have never courted or at least to our knowledge.

      • Jayna says:

        I didn’t know one of them went to that camp a lot. I read from ex-members that you have to keep a cheerlful countenance at all times, no anger, disrespect, and that is grounds to send you off to put you back in line. So he could be sent off to the Alert camp for many what would seem benign reasons to us or more serious reasons.

        I don’t even know what Alert camp is, though. Is that the same thing as that Gothard place Josh got sent off to?

  19. Jaygee says:

    I have to wonder who in the household (if anyone) is endangering or failing to protect the child under investigation. It’s interesting because Josh isn’t living at home anymore…

    • FingerBinger says:

      Do you really have to ask who in that household is endangering or failing to protect children? Jim-Bob and Michelle for starters.

  20. Trillion says:

    Their neighbors feel sorry for the media scrutiny? Does the irony not occur to them that this is a family built on “Reality” television?

    • Liberty says:

      Neighbors, or fellow cult members worried about the attention turning their way?

  21. Katie says:

    Between the kardashian-west circus and this horror show, I’m going to,have to stop reading entertainment news! It’s bad for my blood pressure

  22. Dibba says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a pedophile ring down there.

  23. belle de jour says:

    Oh, how I yearn for one of them to break ranks; to bravely come forward, to begin to spill exactly what they know, what they heard, what they saw, what they suspect.

    In my fantasy, the defecting cult member will be immediately embraced and supported, encouraged, given any practical help and counseling and deprogramming and education she or he needs, and find a welcoming community of empathetic fellow survivors and friends who can offer some sense of new normal, genuine morality, stability and protection.

    • *North*Star* says:

      Perhaps if we all pray for it, it might give one of them enough strength to do just that.

      (I’m a believer in the power of prayer)

      • Neonscream says:

        The “power of prayer” seems to be a very selective power. Apparently it helps rich athletes and artists win awards but isn’t so helpful to millions of Syrians right now. Whoever you believe is listening to those prayers is either not all powerful, in which case why bother, or is a sociopath who enjoys the suffering and slaughter of billions.

      • AH says:

        I’m with you on that one, because I never understood how that was supposed to work anyway. What if you’re praying FOR something that someone else is praying to NOT happen? Do you cancel each other out? What if you’re praying for something that 100 other people are praying “against.”

        It’s been explained to me (by people “in the know” of course) that praying is simply a matter of putting “good energy” out there.

        Now I, on the other hand, have always preferred more tangible methods of doing good, like volunteerism, supporting my local food pantry, participating in clothing, food and holiday drives at my kids’ school, etc. It’s ever so much more satisfying that chatting with an imaginary sky-friend on the behalf of others.

        But that’s me.

        That vengeful, angry god thing seems to be the main flavor profile in the religious kool-aid that the devoted have the most difficult time explaining. I’ll just go with my theory that, since Syria is something like less than 10% Christian, god just doesn’t like them as well.

  24. Wren33 says:

    This is speculation, but it could be something like a particular child had some strange bruises, or was wandering around unsupervised, and someone made a call. I can imagine with that many young kids being raised by older siblings, it could be anything like “today’s helicopter parent concerned by two older elementary-school age kids at the store by themselves” to “someone saw a kid being hit.” If it is explicable, the easiest thing to do is cooperate though. Since the Duggars are already in the system, so to speak, I would bet calls are taken more seriously.

  25. Leslie says:

    My heart goes out to the younger kids that are stuck with this family and have no way to protect themselves. I hope a few of the older ones will escape from their bunkers and spill their guts to the media.

    • Christin says:

      I would like to see that happen as well. Given the amount of indoctrination, isolation and daily responsibilities of those still in the household, my hopes are very slim (unfortunately).

  26. AH says:

    All spinoff talk needs to die. Dead. Take it off life-support and watch it go bye-bye.

    Because what the hell are we supposed to do with a spinoff, exactly? Just continue to watch abused young women being systematically farmed out like cattle to restock the Quiverfull harem, like nothing happened?

    It’s interesting the number of people who are only just now turned off by these weirdos. Because they’re exactly the same weirdos they ever were. Some people were just really late to the party.

    • Kiddo says:

      I really never paid much attention to them, other than the random articles, here, about them saying hateful things. Any time there is any reality show playing, I rapidly zap past the channel like an attacking cobra. I have certain ‘favorite channels’ programmed, now, where I can avoid certain networks/channels altogether.

      • AH says:

        Between the people who say “yep, knew these people were sickos, it’s about time everyone else got on board,” and those who say they “never really paid all that much attention, but everything seemed okay, holy crap, who knew?” I’d WAY rather be the latter. I think those people are fundamentally happier and more well-adjusted than I am. LOL

        Just catching a glimpse here or there, flipping through channels or passing magazine racks at the store, that unmistakable “feeling” you get when you’re in the presence of serious ickiness shot straight to DEFCON-1 with me.

        I wish I had a dollar for every single time I ran across someone pointing out what a freakshow these people are – only to be roundly chastised and countered with example after example of what wonderful parents the Duggers are and how the children seem so happy and well-mannered.

      • Kiddo says:

        I thought that they were another iteration of Kate plus ( ….number of kids) and Octomom. Except that they wore prairie clothes (which did seem odd) and the mother had Glam-rock band hair( from the 80’s or 90’s?). Slowly, I came to realize that they were some religious something or other.

        I really never really pay much notice the rag mags, I feel a lot of pressure from the line behind me in at the markets. I’m fumbling for money or doing something stupid to proceed. But their photos do show a kind of ‘lights on, no one’s home’ look. I noticed that the one daughter consistently has the look of surprise on her face.

      • AH says:

        The “prairie clothes” never struck me as unusual. To clarify: effed up in the extreme, but not unusual. There’s a huge and virulent strain of Church of God weirdos roaming around where I live, so I might be more used to it, I dunno.

        In light of their “accept your shame before god by wearing the ugliest clothes the family sweatshop can churn out” fashion aesthetic, it’s particularly ironic that the parents have admitted there was touching “under the clothes” as well.

        That would seem to indicate that their church-sanctioned modesty uniform ” is an abject failure when used as molester repellent. Why? BECAUSE CHILD MOLESTERS DO NOT PREY ON CHILDREN BECAUSE OF WHAT THOSE CHILDREN ARE WEARING.

    • Lissanne says:

      Most people were not paying that much attention to the Duggars. I watched their show exactly once. I found the episode to be pretty boring. Of course I do not like the way they raise their children, keeping the girls so restricted, with the boys only marginally more free about their choices in life. But I never expected child sexual abuse to be going on. I, like many people. want to see the best in others. Even with people I don’t like, it doesn’t usually occur to me that they are even worse than I thought. Time to rethink what is clearly a rather naive position!

  27. danielle says:

    What is WRONG with people magazine?! They’ve always been celebrity friendly but this duggar tyga nonsense… they are pro sexual abuse now?!?

    • holly hobby says:

      It’s a shame too because their Editor, Jess Cagle, is the very definition of what Jim Boob and Me Shelle demonize. I hope the creepy family covers tank and they will no longer be featured. They gave birth – it happens every day. It’s not a special talent!

    • Tiffany :) says:

      Great. I emailed Discovery Communications re: TLC. Now it looks like I will have to email People magazine as well!

      I can’t believe it is 2015 and corporations are supporting child molesters and their enablers!

  28. Bess says:

    TLC needs to end this farce now and permanently cancel the show.

  29. Jen43 says:

    Since the story about Josh broke, I have been waiting for the other shoe to drop. You just know is more coming. These people are so pervy.

  30. Vampi says:

    No spinoff with those poor abused girls either. They’d better not EVEN try it.
    Anyone who wants to watch these abused, brainwashed girls continue to promote this repressed and abusive lifestyle on TV needs their head examined. Seriously. What kind of a world are we now???? I mean…. *sobs*

  31. SillySimone says:

    I’m confused. If you look at the police call date, this is right smack in the middle of the molestation news coming out. Josh is not in the home. Yet at least one of the victims still is. So I am wondering if DHS was doing a follow up – perhaps because part of the deal with the Duggars is that they provide therapy for the victims, which they failed to do. Maybe it was a follow up? Because if actual abuse was suspected, the police would not need the Duggar’s permission. All they would need is probable cause. Since no children have been removed from the home, I am going to assume it was a follow up, with the Duggars refusing to allow the still minor victim to talk to DHS. Anyone else agree?

    • *North*Star* says:

      NHS needs a lot of evidence (and I do mean a lot) before they take a child or children out of a home. There main motto (and has been for years) is ‘keep the family together’ and re-educate rather than remove.

      In order to remove any child/children, there’s a fairly lengthy court process, especially true if the family in question isn’t cooperating. It can be expedited but it’s usually only done in severe abuse cases which the Duggers might not fall in regardless of what’s uncovered.

      It’s compounded by the fact that most counties and states have severely underfunded case/ social workers that are over burdened; same is true of foster care. It’s a sad, sad, sad situation.

      • SillySimone says:

        So do you think this is part of the original investigation or something new?

  32. Smd says:

    QQ and SuzyQ, please let me know any other threads y’all will be commenting on! Best comments I’ve read in a long time.

  33. Anon says:

    I read on DailyMail that Steve Neild (Kate Gosselin’s bodyguard/bf??) was helping Josh and Anna with their move back to Arkansas. If you know anything about Kate Gosselin and TLC….Steve Neild was more or less there to protect the public from Kate and keep TLC’s secrets. TLC (and People mag), Discovery and NBC (why didn’t the Duggars go on the NBC morning shows like they usually do?)….. don’t care about anything except exploiting and making money. I doubt In Touch does either but the Duggars’ hypocrisy probably made them a target.

    • Liberty says:

      I just read this too, on Dlisted — which said the hiring of Steve Neild was reported on Entertainment Tonight.

      Wow — seems like TLC is determined to keep their kid-related secrets under wraps.

  34. kri says:

    Something is so evil and wrong here.Why is the media practically glamourising pedophilia?? Kylie,this disgusting Duggars…wtf is WRONG??! This is my last click.I have not clicked on the Ktrash family in weeks.never will again.TLC cancel this abomination now.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I agree!!!!!!!
      As I posted above, WHY IN THE F*** are corporations supporting and enabling child abuse? I thought this was clearly a wrong that everyone could agree upon, regardless of political leanings, religion, or economic status. I can’t handle the fact that I am wrong about that!

  35. Marianne says:

    If they feel so violated by the press, stop talking to them. The More the open their mouths and give exclusives to tv shows/magazines etc, the more the story stays out. Just stop talking about it already, and people will eventually lose interest.

  36. iheartgossip says:

    Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving family. These parents and all those whom help aid this child molester through life; deserve all the fires in hell.

  37. Melain says:

    So contradictory. Duggar makes a huge deal of his girls’ clothing, but dismisses his son’s sexual abuse as no big deal. Sicko. Psycho. Not a Christian.

  38. TotallyBiased says:

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    THAT’S how you get this show cancelled.

  39. Vampi says:

    No more Duggars! No more excuses! We ALL know you are a PEDOPHILE network now TLC. and E is trying to katch up with you with the Kylie mess. This is NOT acceptable. Some of us know the value of women and we will NOT STAND for this exploitation and throwing us under the bus in the guise of religion with the Duggars who think sex is evil on one hand, and then they over sexualize us as children like KYLIE any longer!!!! We have A VOICE! We will NOT shut up. Deal with it. STOP ABUSING our children Duggars, TLC, E, and whomever else. SSSTTTOOOPPP IITT!!! Gahhhhhhh!

  40. Vampi says:

    Also… Someome should use some HOLLYWOOD skillz and photoshop that pic of the Duggar Devils sucking on a straw into them sucking on the Devil’s horns because that would be more accurate……..Hey..it’s all about truth and ethcics in journalism..so we may as well call it like it is!!!! Right????!!!