Halle Berry was married to baseball player David Justice from 1993 to 1997. Halle has, in past interviews, referenced that time in her life as unpleasant, difficult and depressing. Around the time that Halle was with Eric Benet, Halle would reference an “ex” who hit her, and many believed that reference was to David Justice, or possibly Wesley Snipes. As with all of her former lovers/partners, Halle’s people did a massive hit job on Justice’s reputation. He tried to correct the record a few times, but most people didn’t really believe him. Something about the way everything went down with Gabriel Aubry, though… the worm really turned. Over the past few years especially, people are wising up to Halle’s game. So now that Halle and her people are going after Olivier Martinez in the press, David Justice took to Twitter to clear the air a little bit. As of this writing, Justice left some of these tweets up but deleted some of them.
Reading the latest Halle Berry Reports,it wasn’t me who hit Halle causing the ear damage.Halle has never said that I hit her. It was a former Hollywood boyfriend (WS) that she told me! When she first reported that she had been in abusive relationships, she wouldn’t name the ‘famous’ former boyfriend (WS)…
She was mad at me leaving the relationship so she and her Hollywood Team just tried to destroy my character. It had to be my fault, right? Yup…Me, Eric, Gabriel and Oliver were all her ‘Knight in Shining Armor, until it ends. Then we all become the worst guys in history. Only the guys in the relationship with Halle know the real deal…there will be another, of course. He’ll be called ‘The Best’ until it ends.
Just wait, Oliver…It’s coming! She insinuated that her daughter wasn’t safe around Gabriel…look it up and see the reason! Just wrong. smh
It just makes me mad to still see the same lie being perpetuated about the source of her abuse being me. Never happened! #formerboyfriend
[From David Justice’s Twitter]
Justice is saying outright that Wesley Snipes hit her, or at least that’s what Halle told Justice at the time. He’s also saying Halle’s pattern is to make her current guy the White Knight and disparage the former guy. Which is legitimately her pattern. David Justice also spoke to the Daily Mail about his tweets and everything else. Here’s part of what he had to say:
“I had to say something after reading about Halle’s recent marriage. So many years ago, I didn’t say anything about the accusations that I abused her, but now I have three children, ages, 15, 13 and 11, two boys and one girl, and they can read this stuff and they have friends who will read it as well so I had to finally come out and say once and for all I never hit Halle Berry. Back then it didn’t matter, but it’s different now. Halle never said I hit her but she never said I didn’t either, which was disappointing. Let me tell you something, I was raised by a single mother and I love and respect her dearly, I would never hit a woman. Never. So, now I have said all that I am going to say on the subject. I am not the face of Halle Berry’s exes, I won’t be going on TV to talk about this. I just wanted to make sure my wife, my children and the rest of my family, friends and fans know the truth. But one more thing…people in Hollywood knew the truth then but no one spoke up on my behalf. Again, disappointing, but that was 20 years ago and I won’t be doing anymore tweeting on the subject. I have said what I needed to say so now, I’m done.”
At this point, I’m guessing that the reason Halle has never come out and claimed “David Justice hit me” is because even she knows that she would be opening a huge can of worms and that Justice might even sue her ass. I don’t expect Halle to say anything about him at this point – he’s old news. She’s too busy focusing all of her crazy on Olivier, that poor bastard. Oh, but just in case you think Justice is some stand-up guy in all of this – while Halle has always had profound issues, I’m absolutely positive that Justice screwed everything and everyone back then.
PS… Eric Benet tweeted some words of agreement towards Justice. Ruh-roh!
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Halle Berry’s Exs Unite. They could form a support group.
Obviously none of these guys are perfect. Several of them cheated on her. But what Halle does is totally tries to destroy them once the relationship is over, like DJ said. I think we all know her game by now and I totally disrespect her for it. You can’t believe her because it seems like she’s willing to go to whatever lengths to have people on her side. The jig is up Halle.
I’m still so pissed about the accusations she threw at Gabriel about dying Nahla’s hair. My children are biracial and every summer their hair on the bottom turns blonde from being in chlorine almost all summer long. I totally don’t buy that crap she tried to throw out there.
Making accusations of racism is part of her M.O. I would have believed her the first time it’s “the boy who cried wolf” at this point and I doubt any of her exes were racist.
Cheating and beating are on two opposite ends of the spectrum. I’m sure almost anyone would rather be known as a cheater than a beater. You could ruin someones life with claims of abuse. Which is her go to for revenge when the relationship ends.
Poor guy. This has been hanging over his head for years. The decent thing would have been to not sit silently by out of revenge so the public at large thinks he’s an abuser. At last he has spoken out and perhaps will now feel somewhat vindicated.
I hate this. It takes so little to destroy someone’s reputation. You see this all the time when celebs divorce. The classic line is that if they are divorcing after a year, what did he do wrong? he must have cheated, he must be no good in bed, I bet he abused her. These are the comments you see on line all the time, so all it needs is the slightest nudge and it becomes internet FACT. I once chased some internet facts back to source and they were absolute rubbish; laughably so. The really ridiculous thing is that the same people who perpetuate these ‘facts’ are also the ones that laugh at other people for not seeing the hugely complex conspiracies perpetrated by the Hollywood establishment, even when those conspiracies are enough to initiate a major diplomatic crisis and the ‘star’ involved is not a big player. Best not to believe a word of it I think and focus on whether you enjoy their work or not.
I have to disagree with the article that DJ is no longer relevant. He is relevant due to Halle constantly playing victim after every bad relationship that came to an end. I’m glad he spoke up against cray cray. It’s not the men in her life it’s Halle.
People on here tend to say Halle has bad taste in men. I think it’s the men in her life with the bad taste when they chose Halle as a mate. If the men are so horrible why haven’t we heard much about them being abusive in other relationships. Why do we only hear the bad stuff about these men after Halle has seperated from them.
Maybe the core issue is that she perhaps has borderline personality disorder?
I just read downthread that she said she attempted suicide after a break up. .
DSM-V criteria (5 or more of the following):
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behaviour, as it is covered in Criterion 5.
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self image or sense of self.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behaviour, which is covered in Criterion 5.
Recurrent suicidal behaviour, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behaviour.
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
Chronic feelings of emptiness.
Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.
My mother has BPD and I have thought for years that Halle (along with a few other celebs that are regularly reported on) have BPD. I know the disorder intimately and she really follows the pattern. However, I’m not a licensed psychiatrist which is why I don’t generally try to diagnose from my desk. 🙂 But, yes, I emphatically agree with you.
On the flip side, it would be fascinating to be a fly on the wall of conversations between Halle and Kelly Rutherford. Not saying they even know each other, but could you imagine those two convening? LOL.
How about a boy band? We could write their songs.
First top ten: Hit and Run.
Glad Dave Justice is defending himself.
It’s a shame with all her drama and messed caused these guys STILL have to defend themselves.
I think Halle is a drama queen in need a some serious mental , emotional counseling and no more relationships until she sorts herself out emotionally.
I forgot how gorgeous he was, wow, Handsome man.
They were such a good looking couple. I had a few of his baseball cards just to fan girl him, and I loved the idea of them as a couple. Ahh the 90s. So nostalgic now.
90’s sigh….. yes some good times …. for me anyway 🙂
Speaking of the 90s, I believe it was you, Bettyrose, who tipped me off to 90210 being on Hulu. If it was, I need to thank you because I’ve been delightfully binge-watching it and it is A-mazing.
I’ve been traveling and in Europe they show a lot of the 90’s shows on tv, I am loving Melrose Place reruns on European tv stations , since I missed them when the show aired originally in the US, I guess I was busy doing homework during that hour….lol
Yep, that could’ve been me, Kitten. All 10 seasons of 90s kitschy drama, including the episodes I missed the first time around when I was busy being a high school/college student. 😉
I’m more nostalgic about the 80s that the 90s, but one really great memory from the 90s is one night a week with girlfriends after work, watching 90210 and Melrose Place and eating takeout. Those were some great, pre-social media and pre-streaming TV times. 🙂
I think we all know by now she’s batshit crazy, but gets away with it because she’s beautiful and a woman.
and ugly inside. IMO
A sad dichotomy, gorgeous on the outside, not gorgeous on the inside.
Yep. People gave her the benefit of the doubt for a looong time, but there’s no denying it now.
I agree she’s batshit crazy but not beautiful, I think she’s pretty.
It’s sad that she needs to sabotage everything around her, buts that’s what drama queens do.
That reminds me of a Canadian band song (and a saying, but the song is funny)
She ain’t pretty, she just looks that way.
It reminds me a little bit of Bill Cosby. Hold on, just a little! Halle and her reputation has been protected by charm, fame and a fake image for decades. No single guy’s word was believed in the face of all that, not two or three men either. They had to really amass before the public started to take a closer look at the “persecuted, innocent” Halle. Fame really has some perks!
I remember when they broke up, and everyone was definitely led to believe he had hit her. I never thought differently until now, and am amazed he didn’t say this sooner.
Eric Benet got trashed in the press when they broke up too- wonder how much of that was made up as well?
Yeah because she got a restraining order against DJ at the same time she talked about a boyfriend who hit her.
None of these guys maybe great but she is NUTS. Every relationship ends the same and she is always the victim. At this point she should say “I am difficult and not made for marriage”.
I feel bad for her kids. We never heard Olivier was angry or crazy or abusive until Halle. He went out with Kylie and introduced her to Halle. He went with Angelina, Juliet Binoche, Rosie Huntington, and Michelle Rodriguez. We heard nothing until Halle… Just sayin.
That’s very telling.
Olivier did beat the pulp out of Gabriel in the driveway with Nahla in the vicinity, there is horrific proof of that. With him, she met her match.
I recently found a random interview that Eric Benet gave some years ago in which he talked about why he was labelled and signed off on the ‘sex addict’ label.
He admitted that he cheated on her. He didn’t specify numbers, but the implication was that it was in the arena of having a mistress as opposed to cheating all over town.
Anyhue, apparently he was remorseful, and asked her what he could do to repair the damage and thus their marriage, and she insisted he go into rehab for sex addiction. He apparently genuinely thought this would solve their marital problems, so he agreed and went to the rehab. Only to come out to find himself divorced and the media being sold stories that he was a sex addict who had cheated all over town. And he couldn’t deny it because of the rehab that she’d insisted he attend. His view was that she never intended to work on their marital problems, but she was going to humiliate him from the heavens.
He wrote a song about it called ‘Hurricane’.
Interesting…
I figured he wasn’t blameless, but not as bad as the media portrayed.
It’s really sad she was so hell bent on destroying all of her exes, considering she had children with 2 of them, and EB had a daughter too.
That is eye-opening.
oh I remember her big Catwoman suit & whip routines on Oprah when she talked ALL ABOUT IT. My ex remembers it too, and he never got over that lil performance. He despises her.
I remember how she buddied up to Eric Benet’s daughter during the marriage and just wend see yah after the relationship ended. I’m not saying all exes should keep in touch with the other’s kids but at one point Halle talked about adopting his daughter and they were tight. She went pffft just like that.
eric always came off opportunistic to me though. Like they both used each other and were very public and he’d serenade her at awards shows and they were both gross to watch. lol I personally think crazy attracts crazy, and halle and her men gravitate towards one another for that reason.
Didn’t the allegations pretty much end his baseball career? It was always implied that he was the ex she was talking about. I never knew she dated Snipes before him.
adding….. Go team Wasserman -Martinez,for setting precedent for how Halle functions.
Cuz if you don’t think Olivier’s attorney set this in motion,you are crazy.
Olivier was front row for the GA fall out, so if his lawyer has set this in motion, then Halle is getting a taste of her own medicine.
He/She who goes for Wasserman is out for blood.
I’ve always read that it was ALLEGED that Wesely Snipes was the one that was abusive. All I’ve ever read about Justice is that he cheated.
that was my understanding too. she sorta said david was a huge cheat who loved hookers. But implied it was wesley who beat her badly enough to cause some damage to her hearing. Wesley got the beater label, david got the cheating with hookers label.
I absolutely believed her regarding the abuse she suffered from DJ til now. People have known she is crazy for awhile. It must have taken quite a bit of self restraint on David’s part not to speak out publicly. I guess he figured the truth would come out eventually.
Yep. I didn’t really know who David Justice was back then, but I did know his name as the guy who beat Halle Berry. Everyone took it as fact. She is beyond a pathetic wretch, she is evil.
Agreed! She is a breathing lifetime movie character. Wow!
Add me to the list of people who thought David Justice beat her all these years…
Me, too.
Me three I recall having doubts on him when he played for he Yankees.
Better get the wine chilled and make some popcorn, this is going to become a big mess! I want to see if Wesley Snipes has anything to say
Man hits a woman, man denies hitting a woman. People believe the man because reasons.
^^ This 100000x
People believe THIS man because of Halle’s pattern of lies. Don’t try to make this something it isn’t, please.
What “pattern of lies”?
Totally agree with Sugar – she seems to be trashing every ex, saying they were all violent to her. Hmmm. It can happen, but this all seems a bit off.
@Sugar – you are right. Halle’s vindictiveness knows no shame. She will do, say and insinuate anything to get revenge and come out the sweet little victim every time. There is something seriously wrong with her and it’s time to stop blaming her absentee father. I know several women whose fathers disappeared from their lives when they were young and they’re not batshit crazy, scheming or hell-bent on vengeance.
I remember when this happened NO ONE believed him! In fact because everyone believed her so much she has been able to attack and claim abuse with every man she has been with. Really she tried to accuse Nala’s father of abuse that only went nowhere because courts watch that!
This was believed and will probably always sort of be believed forever. I am not 100% sure it wasn’t him but I do know there is no way Eric, Gabrial and Oliver all are! She lies about this. Plain and simple.
When a woman says she is abused, I’ll generally believe her unless there’s evidence to the contrary. Halle Berry has a long history of gushing over her BFs/husbands, only to do a hit job on them in the press when the relationship goes pear shaped. With Olivier, he’s an insecure rage monster who can’t handle a successful woman. With Gabe, he was a closeted racist who wasn’t fit to parent a biracial child. I’m willing to give Justice the benefit of the doubt here.
Oliver and Gabriel also got into a physical fight with each other. They both have documented aggression.
Hear hear!
@kylie men getting into a fight is not the same thing as beating a woman or child! People get into fights men and women and would never beat a child. An ex husband and new husband get into fights all the time that doesn’t mean they would ever hit a wife.
Sorry I usually always believe the woman but when a clear pattern develops you have to acknowledge it. It’s not fair to these men. And more importantly REAL VICTIMS that now have a harder time being believed because of lies.
Kylie- Gabriel has no documented history of aggression. None. He does have a documented history of being a mellow and gentle fellow. He did not “get into a fight” with Olivier. He was assaulted by Olivier. The physical evidence on both their bodies was very clear. Olivier was the aggressor, you could see the tell-tale injuries on his hands. There was no such evidence of aggression on Gabriel, he was beaten up and kicked. Gabriel wanted the authorities to see the surveillance tape because it would back up his story. The camera mysteriously had been moved and there was no tape. If Gabriel had pursued it with the family court judge, Halle would have been in huge trouble because Olivier wasn’t even supposed to be in that area during the transfer, only neutral parties allowed, and one look at Gabriel and his medical records would have made it obvious that Boyfriend beat him up. And yet Halle had the gall to get a holiday judge to issue a restraining order on the assault victim! After the holiday, that was not maintained and there was a private session where I’m sure it was pointed out to Halle how close she came to losing custody with that little episode. At least she shut up for quite a while afterward.
@Kylie – Halle knows what a mercurial temper Olivier has. She probably pumped him up for months before he went after Gabriel and Gabriel defended himself. Olivier was a boxer and knows how to give punches without taking them. His focus was on destroying Gabriel’s face and possibly his career as a result.
Halle was hell-bent on ruining Gabriel because he fought her move to France to “get away from the paps”, that we now know. When Gabriel put up a concerted battle to keep Nahla here she went into full “ruin him” mode, alleging everything from abuse to racial bigotry.
Nice try Halle….all that will come back to haunt you now that you’re breaking up with Olivier.
It is difficult, you do have to believe someone when they say they are being abused, but you have to hold back on condemning the person accused because they may be totally innocent. You have to believe both and make sure everyone is safe until it is proved either way. I know some people think this is rubbish, but it is the only way to work until there is a proper investigation. I am 100% against the media being involved in cases like this until a verdict is given because the damage can already have been done by then, even if the accused is proven innocent. People who just make stuff up knowing this and have no intention of prosecuting or use ‘sources’ are contemptible. If you don’t believe ‘victims’ lie, I once had to be part of a team making sure a male teacher was never alone because two female students were trying to isolate him so they could accuse him of sexual assault. His crime was setting them a detention. We only knew because the teacher was suspicious of their change of behavior and eventually another student reported them. That was a good catch, but I also know of a case where it resulted in suspension for a year, loss of home and divorce before the lie was exposed.
She never said the ear incident was him. She said “someone did” which could make it one of several ex-boyfriends or ex-husbands. That’s one guilty party (who deserves to rot) and several innocents who have suspicion cast on them by this “game” she seems to play.
As someone who works in the legal system this type of behaviour is infuriating. Better ten guilty parties go free than one innocent goes to jail. The reverse is too horrible to contemplate.
She could have said “No, it wasn’t him” – instead, she said nothing and let everyone believe he’s an abuser. She is extremely vindictive – when her relationships fail, for whatever reason, she makes sure the guy’s reputation is ruined.
Yes, she could have spoken out and saying he didn’t do it. Why being so mysterious against something so serious? Just for pity I guess.
She very likely got the restraining order to trash his reputation rather than from any real fear for her safety. They are easy enough to get at least temporarily. She seems to like restraining orders. When Olivier assaulted Gabe, who was hardly able to walk afterward, she took out a restraining order on Gabe! Made no sense at all, but she was setting up her spin and made sure her friends included that in their Thanksgiving story about it all.
Sounds like she has restraining order on her speed dial.
she made it pretty clear it was before david justice-which made it pretty clear she was implying wesley snipes who already had a volatile reputation. Jennifer Loopez spurned his advances on a movie set and said how he was really creepy to her as a result.
Man defends himself against a malicious lie. Good for him. Good for Dave.
Can’t blame him.
Halle’s story about that Hit and Run car accident she did and then went home didn’t report it until next day and claimed she had no memory about it, really let me see just how far she goes to portray a scene in HER favor.
Can’t stand her anymore.
Not only that but she showed up at the Golden Globes a few days later and was talking about the accident. I will always remember that award show & the interviews she did because she came across crazy (& her outfit was terrible).
Nobody believed him; everyone believed her.
I remember when this all happened 20 years ago and I thought he hit her. I read an article at the time that was in People magazine and it talked about her marriage, the restraining order, and the physical abuse. The article very much made it sound like David Justice was abusive and to be honest with you I believed it too up until recently. I wouldn’t want to assume anything at this point, except to note that the truth is a defense against libel and that Halle Berry with her lawyers would be getting an injunction against his tweets if they could.
x10000!! I believed it too. But just yesterday, with yet another Halle-as-victim story I was like, again? Really?
Yep. Count me in as one who believed her.
Yup – everyone believed her for 20 years, and now there’s enough of a history of her using the media and her celebrity to destroy her exes that it certainly warrants reconsideration.
If it wasn’t him, she could have easily said so, instead of letting that hang on his reputation for all these years.
I totally believed it. Everyone did!
Woman lies repeatedly about men, given initial benefit of the doubt and support. People begin to doubt woman when pattern of lying becomes too obvious.
There’s a quote that says, “If you meet an asshole at breakfast then you just met an asshole, if you meet assholes all day then you’re the asshole.”
Justified had some great quotes 🙂
What? Who believed these guys until a few (very few) years ago??? Everyone believed her.
Your post is missing one crucial point: Halle herself NEVER said specifically that DJ hit her. She left it vague and general enough that all of her exes were shamed by the accusation. It isn’t just because of “reasons” that people believe him.
Except, that my observation of women who accuse men of beating them is this. Typically it seems a woman is reluctant to admit being a victim of domestic violence and if she does make that accusation, she tends to make it towards one person and only one person. Halle on the other hand has a history of trashing her exes in every possible manner. She seems to bring up domestic abuse on a regular basis along with cheating and racist behavior. It doesn’t fit my personal observations of the pattern of women making accusations of abuse. Women are frequently ashamed and she seems proud of her victimization. It just doesn’t make sense. That’s why I tend to disbelieve her.
Assuming the man actually hit the woman. Which isn’t proven here.
LOL! Yeah, David … you never hit Halle, just all the ‘other’ women you’ve been with who have accused you of physical abuse. Right.
Do you have links to that? No, seriously, because I’ve never heard about that and I follow baseball.
I would like to hear about that evidence too. If a guy cheats or is a less than good husband it does not automatically mean he is an abusive, violent partner. I am all for women speaking put, pressing charges and leaving the abuser but it seems what HB does is different – she makes vague unsupported accusations and ruins a guy’s reputation without evidence, without calling the cops or pressing any charges. She is a major star, she would get heard if she did any of that. But no, she basically says just enough to skirt the edge of slander.
There have been no accusations until Halle.
She’s a liar, imo just like the hit and run she did but claims she FORGOT or couldn’t remember…..
What women have accused him of being an abuser? Please provide a link or something. Surely you wouldn’t just throw that out there without having some support.
I never heard of any except Halle and IMO some will say anything to excuse Halle’s drama filled lies from the past.
What other women? I have not heard this.
Receipts please, Emma The JP Lover.
Back in the day, it was rumored that Justice was the reason that Berry was deaf in one ear. FWIW, Halle also told Parade that she attempted suicide after Justice left her. At what point do you admit that maybe she’s a bit of a loose cannon?
W.S. was the rumoured ear situation not Justice.
No actually.
” ‘Reading the latest Halle Berry reports, it wasn’t me who hit Halle causing the ear damage,’ Justice tweeted on Monday. ‘Halle has never said that I hit her. Having three kids, [ages] 15, 13 and 11, the careless reporting of me being the one who caused her hearing loss is unacceptable,’ he said. ‘That was the only purpose of my tweets, really.’ ”
The point here is that Halle Berry NEVER clarified who abused her and filed a restraining order against, DJ, leaving it up to the public to speculate. Perhaps you don’t remember, but I remember very clearly that many people thought Justice was the one who caused deafness in Berry’s ear.
I live in Atlanta. There were never any allegations of abuse against David Justice when he was here and there have never been any allegations since he left. Was he a hounddog? Yep. He was a popular athlete. Halle maligned this man’s reputation and 20 years later, the lie is still haunting him. He definitely has the right to defend himself and should have said something earlier.
There have definitely been allegations of abuse against David Justice.
Nicole Foster, his ex & the mother of his first child accused him of choking her while she was pregnant and of hitting her with a phone.
The details of the alleged assaults from the court documents were widely reported in 2001.
His PR people during that time must have been pretty good judging by how many commenters here are saying with certainty that he’s never been accused of domestic violence by anyone.
Tell it Dana!
Preach, Dana! The vitriol against Halle Berry is out of control. The fact that she’s badmouthed her exes doesn’t mean that these guys were all saints. For years, Halle Berry has been extremely active at a domestic violence center in LA called the Jenesse Center . Clearly, this issue is close to her heart. It pains me to read these comments and the underlying thread of misogynoir that runs through them. Halle definitely has problems, but that certainly doesn’t mean her men have been problem-free. The fact is many men find powerful women intimidating, and some men become abusive to put such women in their place. Cheating on her and being emotionally abusive, if not physically abusive, are some of the ways insecure men hurt women who threaten them. I’ve been happily married for five years, but before my husband I dated at least four men who were emotionally abusive and may have turned physically abusive had I stayed around long enough. The fact that I dated four such men does not mean I was the only problem and the men were actually nice guys. No, I had to learn to be wiser and exercise self-care. I read a lot of books on relationships and got quite familiar with personality disorders to avoid such men from then on. I’ve had therapy to work out childhood issues. David Justice says that the men Halle’s been with were held up as shining knights at first, then trashed by her. Well, abusive men tend to behave this way. They’re charming and caring at first, then let their true colors out once you’re hooked and it’s not as easy to walk away.
@Dana
Exactly. But apparently, Nicole is lying and she was making these allegations against poor David soley due to the Halle Berry infamy. Like you I can’t.
Thank you. I am disgusted by the venom, lack of compassion and willful ignorance. Enough.
Nicole is the only one who accused him of domestic abuse in a palimony suit, but the actual details of her accusation were never released. She never called the police or criminally pressed any charges, and the entire situation was settled. Apparently, they get along now and coparent their son. Maybe he did abuse her, or maybe not, but based on the suit you can’t really tell.
The problem I have with this story is Halle never said it was David, and two other men she dated were also thought to be the ones who abused her. Some musician guy, who said it ruined his career and Wesley Snipes. If she never said who it was when there are three men who it could be, why are you all assuming the old gossip is correct. Snipes is more likely that Justice, because at least he has been arrested.
As much as people are beating up on Halle others make her out to be some helpless victim. I’m sorry based on the way Halle has dealt with the end of her previous relationships and her life she just doesn’t seem that way at all. This woman is generally in control, and if you think that makes me sound misogynistic then you need to look up the word. I just think Halle got hit by some man and then left him. Good for her. She does seem to have big relationship issues, and I would say that about anyone who has that many marriages and busted long term relationships.
No other women have ever accused David Justice of abuse. In fact, most of his exes spoke up at the time that Halle was making her insinuations and said that he had never done anything like that with them.
LMAO, I can’t.
@WTW
The fact is many men find powerful women intimidating, and some men become abusive to put such women in their place. Cheating on her and being emotionally abusive, if not physically abusive, are some of the ways insecure men hurt women who threaten them”.
Please say this both of her exes finally went on to women who have NOTHINg going on in their lives except thier husband which prolly makes them more secure/a better match
Benets wife is only known for dating celebrities (Princes ex wife ) and Justice wife was just seen on that show Celebrity Wife Swap bringing him breakfast in bed every morning and basically catering to his every need which is fine if it works for them
That’s some Sean Penn logic right ‘dere.
Wow … okay, here’s one link about Nicole Foster. And ‘allegedly’ it was Wesley Snipes who ruptured Halle’s ear drum.
http://nypost.com/2001/08/29/justice-blasts-bitter-exs-lawsuit/
@ Emma
The Silence at your demanded receipts (now provided ) is telling LOL
So, I read this article and there is only ONE mention of DJ’s abuse. The story is mostly about a $5 million palimony lawsuit that Nicole filed against DJ. Where, other than the statement from the lawyer – not her, is the proof of abuse by DJ? Having gone back and read it again, just to make sure, it also doesn’t say any details about the lawsuit. Just asking.
Allegation was made against DJ – but was it proven?
If the argument against Halle is that it’s frequent flyer allegations on her part causing scepticism, then you have to apply the same logic to Justice. Two exes on the record alleging abuse is a pattern, too.
I don’t know what I believe, really. I always believed her before, but since the Gabriel Aubrey mess, I am more suspicious of her stories. How can you not be?
But the fact remains: she can be an unpleasant and shady person, and also a victim of abuse. You don’t have to be a good person to have the right to be free of violence.
@Blogdiz, who wrote: “@ Emma
The Silence at your demanded receipts (now provided ) is telling LOL”
I don’t know what this means, but I posted my first comment before going to work yesterday morning, then checked the thread at the end of lunch yesterday. I was surprised by so many demanding responses. I’m also surprised no one but me recalls the circumstances surrounding Halle and David’s divorce as well as Halle’s ruptured ear drum.
Halle’s problem with David Justice was that he cheated on her during away games. She suspected he was cheating on her, accused him, got the “you be ‘crazy’ to think that, girl!” speech from him every time and got so gaslighted by him, she would show up in the locker room for public fights with him and of course his teammates would all say he wasn’t cheating, except he ‘was’ cheating. She finally caught him at it and it was over. But the ‘she be crazy!’ label stuck.
Halle and Wesley Snipes briefly dated after the film “Jungle Fever.” Wesley Snipes is a talented martial artist and boxer. She has never come out and said it was Wesley, but they were dating and she went to the hospital with a ruptured eardrum, then they stopped dating.
David Justice has had problems with every woman he has been with. Sometimes you really ‘do’ have to look at the ‘man’ too.
@Emma
I am actually agreeing with you ,
First it was Justice was NEVER accused of this before
Then it was we demand proof
When you did provide proof of an accusation (which is what you were asked for) it was either ignored or rebutted with well it wasn’t proven or well it was just this one other time
cognitive dissonance at its worse
See I always heard it was Snipes…but that she left it open to others to believe that DJ was also abusive by filing the restraining order. He left her and she got a restraining order and tried to commit suicide. Sounds drama.
Looking back, it seems like David Justice was the most stable guy Halle ever dated or married. Until now, he’s not talked about her. That’s nearly 20 years of silence and I understand his reasoning for spilling the beans now. He’s got teenagers and what father wants his kids to read that he might be a wife-beater? He didn’t beat Halle, WS did, and shame on HB for never clarifying that.
Eric Bennet was fine, until Halle. IMO
No problems ever reported with Gabriel during his modeling years, prior to Halle.
I hope women who are actual victims of domestic violence get proper justice because cases like Halle’s don’t help anyone.
You know what doesn’t help anyone? Men hitting women. No one ever says that a male abuser/rapist who denies having abused/raped and then gets found guilty harms the cause of men. I don’t appreciate that men get to lie all they want without there being any repercussions on male credibility whereas one woman lies=all women lie.
@Ann
This. Men don’t deal with the same repercussions at all. Meanwhile woman who are not the ideal abuse or rape survivor get accused of setting back all abused women or rape survivors.
Agreed.
Who says that Berry is lying. She’s 80 percent deaf in one ear, after all. She wasn’t born like this. The fact that she also had a violent father makes her a domestic abusive victim. Halle has been a champion for women who’ve suffered domestic violence through her work at the Jenesse Center in L.A. Berry probably knows more about domestic violence than many of the people commenting here and has probably done more to give back to such victims.
A woman who makes vague, false accusations against an innocent man or men doesn’t help other women get justice.
And please let’s not forget about the *fear* when one is abused. She may have been afraid to actually confirm or deny directly. She did get a restraining order after all (back when people still believed that those actually work rather than antagonizing an already disturbed abuser). I’m not saying she is or isn’t innocent in all of this or defending the crazy at all, but just that as someone who has experienced an abusive relationship and has been experienced sexual attack from more than one person within my community, it is extremely hard to ever say anything directly against someone. I mentioned the abuse once to one friend who asked me directly and because she ended up sharing it, I got threatening phone calls from the person and was afraid for my safety. Granted, HB has a lot more resources and probably family and friends, but psychologically, that kind of thing can do a number on you and you don’t know what is the right action. so the whole “she didn’t deny or confirm” idea makes sense to a degree.
Anna she could have denied that it was Justice. She didn’t have to name names, but she could have denied it was Justice. She let public opinion condemn an innocent man.
Why is it always men hitting women.
open your minds
Meh. Having worked in the system, it’s a little crazy to think that there’s a county prosecutor flipping through a police report right now and debating whether to file a case against an abuser because of tabloid stories about Halle Berry. That’s not realistic.
Exactly! I know a woman who filed a restraining order out of spite. She was under no threat, had never been abused but was really pissed off at her ex. Where I live you need no evidence to file a restraining order. You just get one – which is good because it protects those who really are abused and in danger. But, the flip side is that by getting a restraining order you can smear the reputation of someone you’re angry with.
In the end the woman’s ex also filed a restraining order against her in order to protect his reputation. It became a “tit for tat” situation instead of possible abuse.
She sure knows how to pick them
I think out of all of them, Gabriel was the most decent one but who knows?
She obviously had issues with men but if she was at one point abused, she shouldn’t treat all of her relationships as abusive when they end. Furthermore, why WS hasn’t taken the hit for what he did if he was the one who actually hit her?
It’s hard to feel any sympathy for her when all she does is make herself look like the victim all the time. I’m sure these men are no saints but to go as far as ruining their careers when the one who actually physically abused her isn’t being called out? Give me a break
Back in the day I remember the gossip was that it was Snipes. But then when she filed a restraining order the stories got confused. Which was perhaps intentional.
Oooooo. Now that was definitely a hit. I like Halle but she does need the services of a good therapist.
It’s hard to know, isn’t it? I mean, I don’t blame him at all for defending himself if it wasn’t him, and at the same time, no matter how much of a nut job she may or may not be, being beaten up like that is not acceptable under any circumstances.
The worst part is that this plays into the hands of those who often deny abuse, or else say it happened “because she’s crazy” or whatever other reason. What a mess
David Justice cheated on her left, right and centre.
It was common knowledge in Atlanta, how Halle would do almost constant late night calls around hotels looking for him and his latest jump off.
David also had really unpleasant issues with his own exes, such as Nicole Foster.
I’m sure Halle, Nicole, e.t.c could insert themselves in the conversation, and tweet really nasty stuff about Justice too.
Cheating isn’t the same as physical violence though. Like it’s morally reprehensible to most but not a crime (unless you’re in the military and commit adultery).
@MonicaQ
David was physically violent with a pregnant Nicole Foster, amongst many other things.
But I’ll leave it at that on here.
@Jegede: Foster claimed Justice abused her in a multi-million dollar palimony suit that got thrown out of court. He could have hit/choked her, or she could have been taking advantage of Halle Berry’s inferences against him in an attempt to gain some traction for her suit…
@Jegede
Yup, and as I agreed with the poster Dana above, but I guess now its beacuse Nicole is a liar, in cahoots with devious Berry to besmirch ‘poor David’. I’m sure David’s numerous mistresses have tales to tell as well, but his pay offs shut them up and his PR has wiped his slate clean, as proven here.
@Jegede I never said he did or didn’t hit her because what can I do about it but I’m saying one does not preclude the other. I’m not going to accuse him of hitting her just because he cheated just like I’m not going to accuse a cheater for beating their partner.
oh yes it’s always the men’s fault with Halle.
NOT!
So you are going to claim the men have no responsibility for their own actions? Really? That is awful. It is also why men get away with being horrible people.
@Merritt
No one is saying the men have no responsibility, but clearly Halle has some issues and it would serve her well to take ownership of them instead of publicly smearing the men she is having difficulty with.
What woman would marry a professional athlete and expect them to be faithful?
I do not understand why anyone would even date
First you get the money…
And that’s it. The money. Fame, power, respect are all “maybes”.
Ok while I’m sure he cheated and was probably a pain in the butt husband, he was the biggest thing in sports after Jorden then but that is a far cry from abuse.
He is right she never said a name but she made damn sure we thought it was him and if it wasn’t, that is sick. If it was to play off her crazy antics to clear your name is pathetic.
Wow they are making this woman sound real bat shit, she should really not date anytime soon and work on whatever she needs to work on. Because I have never heard of David(though he is fairly private) Eric, Gabriel or Olivier haven’t any relationship drama.
I have mixed feelings on this.
On the one hand, yes-people need to know that yes, her PR has skillfully played the game to always make her look like a victim of men who were, in one way or another, bad news for her. And somehow, they always not only turn out to be jerks, but like, racist, cartoony villainous jerks. I don’t know how you look at yourself in the mirror when you know that you’re letting people believe a man beat you when you know he didn’t. Apparently she will stop at nothing to make an ex look bad, on the turn of a dime. I fear we may just be seeing the beginning of a contentious fight with Olivier Martinez, because it seems like everything started just fine with Gabriel Aubrey until he dared to be want to be named as father on his kid’s birth certificate.
Having said that-I can’t help but feel like this is sadly opportunistic on David Justice’s part-I don’t think anyone is even checking for him or really, an of her ex’s right now and frankly, while none of them seem to be as evil as she paints, they all definitely were not angels.
Most people are pretty savvy about how she works in her personal life. That doesn’t mean she will stop getting work or press. It is Hollywood, after all.
He has been falsely accused for two decades. He has been married for over a decade. Don’t you think he is allowed to defend himself, so his wife and children don’t have to live with people believing Berry’s false accusations anymore?
I do believe he has a right to defend himself against that kind of slander-I think it is a despicable move to let people believe that about someone (see first paragraph). I think she has done hatchet jobs on all her exes. I’m not in any way condoning get behavior.
However, I think he has drawn attention to something most people already suspected was shady on her part, but had probably long since forgotten about. I don’t know a good way to explain it-as much as I don’t like her or how she operates, I am uncomfortable about them inciting a public shaming of her when most of her exes are problematic themselves.
@grabbyhands This x1000000 “I am uncomfortable about them inciting a public shaming of her when most of her exes are problematic themselves.”
His name and these accusations were being dragged up by others as a result of her divorce from Martinez. He didn’t make these statements out of the blue. People were re-accusing him and he set the record straight.
@grabbyhands-Yeah I feel you but she essentially publicly shamed them (Justice and her other exes), you know?
I usually avoid the HB threads because I’m uncomfortable with how people demonize her–nothing is ever entirely black and white in relationships. Yet the more I read the more I think that she has very serious issues that go beyond just being bitter towards her exes. There’s something really wrong with the way she handles break-ups and it’s alarming TBH, particularly when kids are involved.
It’s worth noting that some of us are Team No One in this.
Let’t think this thing through. He was accused by an ex-girlfriend-Nicole, as part of a lawsuit, that was thrown out of court. The fact that is was thrown out of court would imply there was a lack of evidence to support the claim. So he was either innocent of that act or he was guilty of that act but there was a lack of evidence to substantiate it, or the claim was thrown out based on some kind of technicality.
If he was innocent of the earlier event, that doesn’t prove he hit Halle, and if he was guilty of the previous incident, that doesn’t prove he hit Halle, but it would indicate that he was a violent person capable of hitting women.
It was pretty much universally believed early on that he was guilty of hitting Halle due to the circumstances and her vague accusation. Because the belief of his guilt was so heavily prevalent back then, it seems odd that he didn’t speak up for himself. Especially since the record would tend to indicate that he fought the accusation from the palimony suit pretty vigorously. The fact that he didn’t defend himself back then should not be an indicator of his guilt though, because he might have been advised by the Yankee organization (who he was playing for at that time?) to be silent.
Because of the incident with Nicole, however, my conclusion is that he probably did hit Halle, but perhaps he feels like for his current family’s sake, since this has been brought back into the news, that he needs to deny it, and that there can be no evidence to prove that he did hit her. He probably would figure Halle wouldn’t open that can of worms right now while she is busy fighting this new battle, and it is a good time for him to proclaim his innocence without her making any counter accusation. There is a problem with my theory in him openly (more or less) blaming WS, but maybe he knows for a fact, or Halle told him that WS hit her as well.
Any way, it’s all speculation on my part. One thing is indisputable, while it in no way justifies ever being hit by anyone, Halle’s behavior toward her exes has been vindictive in the extreme, but then she has been treated badly too. Probably her aggression in going after these guys extends from her upbringing and from poor treatment from the men she has had as partners. UGGG! I’m kind of feeling sorry for her, and I really don’t like her. I’m team Gabriel all the way, and really feel like she screwed up there, but the others…oh well. All I have is guesses.
@Kitten
The only person I think is entirely blameless in all of this is Gabriel. Until Halle proves that he’s spending the child support money on blow outs and condoms, there is not a single thing that man has done wrong. And especially in a time when we have men that don’t even fight for custody the minute it’s a fight…..
I just can’t see the benefit for him outside of clearing his name. I know timing is everything but I think the timing plays into why he said something. It was only a few weeks after she broke up with Olivier that all new rumors started hitting supermarket tabloids. Now we’ve seen with some celebs like Gwen Stefani that a divorce can be handled quietly with no leaks IF that’s what the celebrity wants. But with Halle we’re already seeing the same process happen.
Now once is normal and twice is a coincidence but according to Halle she’s batting four to five in the evil men area. I think in terms of getting people to believe him this is probably the best time.
Yeah, it is hard to adequately phrase what I mean.
While I think he should be able to say “this is what I went through 20 years ago”, particularly in reference to her letting people believe he beat her by the sin of omission rather than accusation, I feel weirdly uncomfortable with them setting up a witch hunt to expose her as a liar. I don’t know why, exactly-I don’t like her and the bloodthirsty way she goes about trying to make her exes look bad and gain public sympathy. But it just sits weird.
wrong place
People including myself ADORED Halle Berry, but with time and seeing how she handles her relationships, it has made me realize that IT’S HALLE!
PEOPLE loved Halle, she did this negative image turn around to herself. IMO She is a EMOTIONAL mess and I believe her agents , managers hid it, on her quest to a successful career and a Oscar, BUT now they just don’t work as hard to protect her image.
It doesn’t take another bad relationship for me to see it’s HER who has some MAJOR issues.
I truly can’t stand her now and I use to adore Halle.
Whenever someone speaks out against Halle, they seem to be given instant credibility. That is dangerous thinking. It is as though it never occurs to some people that both people in a relationship could have issues.
Whenever Halle spoke in the past and even now to a point she was and is given instant sympathy and belief. IMO She is finally being Exposed slowly for the person she really is. A drama filled, emotional mess who will say anything to gain favor to promote a breakup, situation or relationship issue to her favor.
This includes her B.S. “I didn’t remember I had HIT Someone with my Car and gone home!”
I just can’t with her anymore. She was once a beloved figure imo, she has done a lot of this critical image questioning people have to HERSELF.
Once again, you fail to understand these men could be the same way. Yet, you keep acting like they have no responsibility when they cheat or hit. Especially since David Justice has been accused by other women. But since he claims he didn’t hit Halle, you don’t care.
@Merrit
“Whenever someone speaks out against Halle, they seem to be given instant credibility.”
That’s exactly the way it reads to me too.
Tis why I kept my comment brief, then am outta here.
Better not to expand,
Nobody is saying these men are angels. But there is a pattern there, they are first knight in shinning armor and when it goes wrong. She thrashes their reputation, she has cried wolf too many times.
She knowingly let people think it was David Justice that beat her, when that did not happen. Halle Berry herself just said ” I never said it was David Justice that hit me” but she let people think so.
That isn’t what is happening. You can’t just say well Halle Berry said it happened and she is a woman, and volunteers so it has to be true. Sorry no!
She has proven over and over she LIES about her exes. I’m not saying she wasn’t abused she clearly was, but was it David Justice after 20 years of believing yes it was him, I’m willing to say maybe not. Especially after she tried to STEAL Gabrial’s daughter with lies of abuse and racism! Sorry nope she earned a side eye!
You and merit are trying to make it into a femisist issue and it isn’t, this isn’t about should men be held responsible for their actions, that isn’t even a question of course they should. Although putting cheating and physical abuse in the same sentence feels wrong huge difference. Should there be a zero tolerance on abuse, of course and the belief should go to the victim…which in the case of David Justice and Halle Berry it has gone to Halle Berry for 20 years.
But honestly at a certain point you have to ask about her pattern, because she has a pattern. Also note I don’t know who I believe but I’m not as willing to blindly believe her anymore and 5 days ago I did about David Justice because I had no idea there was another potential person.
@ Merrit, you have said here that Justice has been accused by other women.
“Merritt says:
November 4, 2015 at 8:53 am
Once again, you fail to understand these men could be the same way. Yet, you keep acting like they have no responsibility when they cheat or hit. Especially since David Justice has been accused by other women. But since he claims he didn’t hit Halle, you don’t care.”
You have cited, or someone did, a link to an incident with Nicole, but you have indicated multiple women in your statement. Can you reference what other cases you might be referring to?
Except in nearly all cases I can think of SHE had the credibility.
No one believed this guy in the 90’s, no one believed Eric Benet, people were still suspicious around Aubrey but four men and the same repetitive pattern later you are seeing a tide shifting.
The instant credibility you now see is because for better or worse we live in a tabloid world that actually INVESTIGATES Halle’s claims and found and reported many of them to be false. If you accuse a man of racism, violence, neglect, and etc. and ALL those claims are found to be false then yes, you will lose your credibility in the public’s eyes.
Believed Eric Benet about what? He was caught cheating not just by Halle but also by the media. There was proof that he was a cheater that came from independent sources.
@ Eternal
Halle was wrong for airing her dirty laundry with her exes in public and trying to garner public sympathy but what exactl lies did she tell that were empirically proven to be false ?
David Justice; Says she was unhappy he was emotionally intimidating. His reputation for cheating was pretty much public knowledge , she never accused him of hitting her.This was rumors started by OTHER people who assumed that she was too ashamed to admit it ( She refered to an EX damaging her ear while she was STILL with him so how could it be him now ??? )
Incidentally another of Justices ex accused him of abuse and cheating but guess she was lying as well
Eric Benet: he confessed on public record to cheating .he was caught in the act by tabloids. One mistress even gave an interview to said tabloids ….again how did she lie here ???
Gabe; IMO she used him to have a child and thought he was disposable …he was not , thus far I am the most sympathetic to Gabe but guess what I dont know him as for him calling her a racial slur that is not impossible there are recent articles on Buzzfeed/xo jane that you can read about the prevalence of people having implicit racial bias or being outright racist even if they are dating outside of their own race (Google US Senator Strom Thurmond)
Olivier: Other than the tabloid post mortem /speculation about yet another failed Halle relationship , Can anyone on here direct me to a quote from her trashing Olivier? .SHE HAS NOT , she knows the public tide is against her and she hasn’t bashed Olivier at all yet people are on here behaving as she has
Dont get me wrong, I think Halle is a narcissist and has many unresolved issues from her childhood that she keeps playing out in her adult life but there is something else going on in this Halle bashing and its very ugly
@Merrit
There’s a difference between cheating and being a rampant and abusive sex addict. Benet copped to the cheating but claimed Halle invented the sex addiction as a way to punish him. He thought he was admitting to something small so that they could work on their relationship when in the end she used that as the banner ad for why she couldn’t be with him and how sick and scared it made her. She went public with that while claiming she would still share a relationship with his daughter, which was also a lie.
@blog
Justice explains this pretty clearly so I’m not sure why it’s still being debated. He says the manner in which Halle revealed her previous abuse implied he was the one who hurt her. She could have come out and said he wasn’t but instead kept quiet and let that misrepresentation hurt him. If this had been the only issue then we could chalk it up to nothing but –
Benet
Said he was cheating on her and her apologized for that but said the angle of him having sex addiction was invented purely by Halle. Okay once again we could dismiss that but –
Gabriel
Along with claims of racism and allusions to abusing her that she never quite spelled out (much like with Justice) she also accused him of cheating and of assaulting a nanny they had at the time. Which was also found to be false by the courts.
Olivier
These days we can stop pretending many tabloids don’t come from the mouthpiece of some celebs. Let’s look at the celebrity divorces and which ones were discussed to death and which ones were quiet. Ben and Jen were discussed to death while Gwen and Gavin were barely reported. It’s been a few short weeks and already there’s a dozen reports about how he was jealous of her career, how threatened he was by her a successful woman (meanwhile her career is nearly as dead as his) and etc. There isn’t a huge demand for Halle tabloids.
Looking at those older pictures I suddenly realized how many boob jobs she’s had to reach the breasts she has today.
I remember in the 90’s when it was reported she had them done…but today Halle claims that she never had one. LOL
Her nose looks tweaked as well.
Oh that nose has been tweaked a few times.
I actually use to hold her up as a black woman who didn’t go the initial pencil thin route with her nose job, like if I ever had mine done I’d want Halle Berry circa the mid 90’s.
Nose has definitely been tweaked. She was in an old sewing pattern magazine back when she was completely unknown and had a completely different nose.
We don’t even know if Halle’s story that somebody caused her hearing loss by hitting her is actually true. There could be many other reasons for it: her Type 1 diabetes (makes her at risk), exposure to loud noises or music (at concerts or through earphones), illness (infection, high fever), etc. Halle seems to play rather loose with the truth in general, so it is not inconceivable that she falsely claimed the loss was due to abuse just to make a good story. She certainly has lied often enough about other things.
Hearing loss would be a gradual change in a diabetic of either type. A person with well controlled diabetes, would be less prone to those types of complications. Obviously we don’t know her numbers, and even the type of diabetes she has is debatable given statements she has made.
If her hearing loss was sudden, that points to some time of trauma.
For example, Kelly Monaco experienced hearing loss after a scuba diving incident.
Oone of my friend had a 30-40% loss with each of her pregnancies. After baby number 2, the doc told her that she had a congenital small defect, that was aggravated by her pregnancies. She then decided against trying for a third child.
Then again, a former student of mine lost all hearing one one side after her mother slapped her.
Since we weren’t there and are not privy to her medical records, we’ll never know the truth of it.
But there is a huge difference between being an asshole and a cheater and someone who is abusive. Halle Berry has always been more famous than her husbands / boyfriends and used that to her advantage in making insinuations about them when they break up. And there was definitely fishiness when she was involved in the hit and run, which is when opinion started to turn. I was a bit surprised about what Lainey wrote because making insinuations that your ex is racist or an abuser is not on the same level and being upset that they cheated on you a la Jennifer Garner. Halle has also been a massive hypocrite on the paparazzi issue too, which is what makes her the same as Jennifer Garner. Garner never indirectly accused her exes of abuse though.
Now there is evidence of Olivier Martinez getting into to scraps, but then again the one everyone heard about is with Aubrey, when one was preventing the other from getting the daughter.
I’m reading posts about the concept of “instant credibility”.
I’ts an interesting turn of events- usually it’s a woman who speaks out, and them others join and we see this pattern of behaviour and find the accused guilty. Like Bill Cosby. One had courage to speak, others found their courage, and he is guilt- I believe this. He abused those women.
But here we have men speaking out, finally, against a woman. That there was more going on. That there is a pattern of behaviour. And what am I reading? The tearing apart of their lives, of their credibility, talk of their past behaviours. Women abuse too, perhaps it is not as common, but they do. I believe Halle abuses the men she is with.
Equal rights mean equal rights for everyone. If we tear apart potential victims just because they are men…. ? you see?
There is a pattern of behaviour with Halle, and it needs to be told. Those kids need protection, and she needs help.
Excellent post.
Thank you! This is a true feminist statement. She is abusive and if we want to be treated equally we have to hold ourselves to that standard!
She is abusive. She should be called out.
Well said.
I also think others are intentionally reframing what happened by making it seem like these men went, “I didn’t do it.” and the general public immediately accepted and congratulated them. Shame on that she-devil Halle Berry! No, that’s not what happened.
Each man had his time frame and in that time frame she was believed and given the public support. I still remember after Eric Benet she went on Oprah to say she would NEVER get married again and she had a whole audience of sympathetic women nodding and clapping. If those men had walked into that room at that moment they’d have been crucified.
Now, 10-20 years later the men are revealing what happened and the onus is on her to explain why there’s such a pattern and evidence to show she’s been lying.
I pounded my chest in the office, good post, hot take. /salute.
Justice who has a history of abuse accusations from other women. Or does Nicole not count because you never heard her story?
@ original Kay, I agree with your point, but I think this situation is too convoluted with potential and real bad behavior on both sides to be sure of our conclusions here.
and again, @ Merritt, you are indicating multiple female victims of Justice with no documentation.
“Justice who has a history of abuse accusations from other women. Or does Nicole not count because you never heard her story?”
You are indicating multiples. Who besides Nicole, please? Also keeping in mind, in all situations, both from Halle’s point of view, and the men’s point of view, that an accusation is not necessarily a fact.
How many woman does a man need to abuse before it is clear the man is a problem?
It’s devastating for people to believe that you did something that is morally abhorrant to you. He wouldn’t be bringing this up now if the hurt over his reputation wasn’t still raw. You can feel how much this has distressed him.
Halle reminds me of a former friend of mine who used to demonise every ex boyfriend with lies of abuse once she was finished with them. I used to believe her while being a bit shocked that so many seemingly nice men could behave like that in private while wondering why she never mentioned anything during the relationship. Then one day she was talking about her most recent ex and how he used to beat her up all the time which I knew to be false as I lived with them for six months and despite her aggravating, abusive, psychotic behaviour he never rose to it. When I told her I’d nevet seen any indication, she insisted that I had seen it as I was in the room when he did it. Having convinced herself she was terrifyingly convincing and people like that are extremely dangerous because unless you have seen with your own eyes or know both parties very well, you will believe them. The next man is always the hero who saves her, he’s manipulated and emotionally bludgeoned and then cast as the abuser once she’s finished. It’s a personality disorder that makes its host extremely toxic and it’s important that potential suitors know to avoid if that’s not what they’re looking for!
Women can be abusers too and men can be victims. We need to stop assuming that the woman is always in the right and judge on the individuals involved, evidence, facts and history.
Also, she is not the only one that has had multiple marriages in the Hollywood. There are many stars that that have had failed marriages, she is the only one that always plays victim and trash the men’s character. That is the issue people have with her. Jlo is a good example, she is on her 4th public relationship, yet you have never heard say anything malicious about her exes.
Did David Justice happen to tweet anything about Nicole Foster’s allegations against him?
According to Nicole (his ex-fiancee & the mother of his son), David hit her on the back of the head with a phone and choked her while she was 9 months pregnant.
No? Well, maybe he’ll find time to do that today.
Lol Exactly. And in his unwarranted “Exes against Halle Berry” rant, abuser David, and cheater Eric, have shown their own a$$e$ as well, 20 and 10 years on. But its all on Halle apparently. Lol
Omg Eric admitted to cheating and considering how quickly Berry jumps into new relationships she really probably doesn’t have a lot of moral high ground.
Not defending cheating but hardly this horrible thing like lying and accusing your daughter’s father of abuse and racism so you can steal her.
Yep. But Halle is the bad person here, regardless of the facts.
All people care about is that he called Halle out. They don’t care that several of her exes have a shady history with other women. The mindset is clearly that anyone that doesn’t like Halle must be telling the truth.
He did fight the allegations (that Nicole made) at the time, and the case was thrown out of court-I would assume due to lack of evidence, or a technicality of some sort. Despite the allegations, we are still living in a legal system where we are innocent until proven guilty, although if he was guilty, this would indicate a violent nature on his part and would indicate that he could have certainly been violent with Halle.
When it comes to domestic abuse allegations, I usually default to believing the woman. But considering how bitter and acrimonious divorces get, is it not just possible that the allegation was untrue? David Justice may not be a good guy but being a cheating bastard is not the same as being a abuser. If the case was thrown out then can we not give him the benefit of the doubt?
I really am torn on this one.
Our system is based on innocent until proven guilty, but public opinion tends to assume guilt regardless of the decision of the court. The assumption is that just being accused means guilt, “where there’s smoke there’s fire” etc. Until, of course, you become one of the many people falsely accused of a crime and find your life turned upside down as a result.
Does he need to ? I googled it and apparently she lost the case.
The Glee that people (especially ) women have at Halles supposed demise is Interesting
Personally Im not a fan of her acting but I can anyone here provide a clip/ quote/ interview of Halle accusing Justice of hitting her? she has NOT
In fact its an interview where she glowed about her marriage with Justice that she first brought up the ex beating her so clearly it wasn’t him .Pretty much anyone who followed Halle at that time (as I did before realizing her acting was never gonna improve ) knows that it was WS who hit her , she always refused to name him either due to some settlement or dont bring the black man down syndrome that many BW have
If news sources inaccurately labelled Justice an abuser, all he had to do is go after them and issue a simple statement exonerating himself, instead he went on a juvenile multiple tweets twitter attack on Halle which was not only petty but seems like he still invested in her after 20 yrs??
I have relatives in Atlanta and he had quite a reputation as a wh*remonger and his wife after Halle accused of cheating,physical and verbal abuse guess she was lying too
Coincidentally Justice was on Celebrity Wife Swap this week and his current Asian wife has to personally bring him breakfast in Bed EVERY morning and runs around catering to his every need this is the kind of woman that Men like him want , they cant deal with a woman who has a life outside of them .
Halle obviously has her own flaws and probably one of them is constantly picking the wrong guy but all this schadenfreude is it really necessary ?
“If news sources inaccurately labelled Justice an abuser, all he had to do is go after them and issue a simple statement exonerating himself, instead he went on a juvenile multiple tweets twitter attack on Halle which was not only petty but seems like he still invested in her after 20 yrs??”
This. SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
He had that option, but chose to go in the catty ****boi mode. Proving what a bag he remains.
David’s hands are not clean at all, but public sympathy is against Berry, so she probably has to let this go, than expose him to the hilt.
It’s a damn shame I had to scroll down this far to finally see a comment that speaks some truth. I’ve been trying to figure out what David Justice these people here are talking about. This is the true tea that I was looking for; too bad it came so late in the thread. Doesn’t absolve Halle of all her mess, but getting tired of the notion that all these guys are some kinda of saints because they managed to survive marriage to her. All without stopping to think that maybe, just maybe they have their own issues that might have contributed to the marriage failing.
Thank you!
I cant believe how many people here are running with the Halle said Justice damaged her eardrum with no proof whatsoever.She first mentioned the Ex/ear drum thing whilst she was STILL with Justice it was a part of her glowing about HIM and her journey to happiness. So in any logical sequence of events how could he now be the one that was guilty of doing that ?????. Furthermore even if Justice did hit Halle at the time she would have been too embarrassed to admit that she found herself back in that same situation
Dislike her all you want just quit making stuff up to suit your narrative
@ blogdiz
“I have relatives in Atlanta and he had quite a reputation as a wh*remonger and his wife after Halle accused of cheating,physical and verbal abuse guess she was lying too”
If you can cite facts, instead of gossip, we are all ears.
@ zwella
Bwaa HAH HAW , i guess ALL the posts her cite FACTS and not Gossip except for mine ….ROFL
@ Emma posted a link upthread about Justices ex law suit which mentions the abuse , I have a funny feeling that this still wont be enough for you
I don’t think you can take someone to court to clear your name when they haven’t specifically stated it was you. Which is the whole point of vague insinuations and never clearing up the doubt. Smearing someone’s reputation by innuendo without opening yourself up to a lawsuit.
Does anyone seriously think, given HB’s “go on the attack” mode when a relationship ends, that she WOULDN’T have specifically named this guy as having done this during the divorce proceedings if it had been him? I don’t.
Notice how David doesn’t “clear his good name” regarding getting caught with a hooker while married to Halle. Halle has never publicly said David was physically abusive with her but I agree she should’ve made it clear he didn’t hit her in interviews. I always thought the abusive guy was Christopher Williams. Wesley claimed it wasn’t him on Howard Stern. Halle does need to develop a friendly relationship with her exes at least for her career. The Oprah show about her divorce with Eric Benet was too much.
Even if David is right, he shouldn’t attack her in the press. Let it go. He’s happily married with 3 kids. That’s enough. Halle is facing another divorce. Bad mouthing his ex only makes him look like a jerk – just wish Halle well.
Exactly.
Seriously? It makes him look like a jerk to say that he didn’t hit Halle? If it’s true he didn’t hit her, he has every right to defend himself! That doesn’t make him a jerk. He is the jerk, and worse, if he really did hit her.
Ok, but what do we expect him to say? And he does have other allegations for domestic violence not from Halle. She didn’t ruin his career. He did. And he did in fact attack other women.
And her pattern of going after husbands doesn’t negate his abuse either. Both can be true at the same time.
As Scarlet Vixen wrote above, in one palimony suit that was dismissed by the judge.
Kitty, if you and Merritt are going to continue to ACCUSE him of multiple incidents of domestic violence, you need to produce proof. All we have are allegations from Nicole that were dismissed charges.
she has her issues but if justice screwed everyone back then even a normal woman would have issues. He’s acting like he played no part in the crazy.
No Hannah. You are wrong. He makes no claims to be innocent in anything but domestic violence. I see nowhere that he proclaims himself to be an angel.
WORD.
he should’ve taken the chance to apologize for the cheating as well in his tweets.
I think we all need to take things with a grain of salt here. Those men need to tread lightly – they chose her too. They cheated (and did whatever else). I don’t fully believe David J. Not saying she’s perfect but she has a pattern of being with physically abusive men – she has issues. Very few women would just leave a marriage without wanting revenge after going through pain and hurt. The woman tried to kill herself at some point. Where’s the compassion?
Those men aren’t puppets she made fight over her. She didn’t take Olivier’s hands and strike Aubry. Why are you people portraying Aubry as a saint? Do you know him intimately? STOP DEMONIZING THE WOMAN!!! You have no idea about her personal struggles. If I was one of the exes and I hated her, maybe I’d want to join in and take her down too. & you people talk about supporting women. You people make me sick, just gobbling up everything that man says. Olivier hit someone who didn’t attack or provoke him at the airport. He’s a MAJOR DOUCHE! Did she force his hand?
Again, she isn’t perfect obviously. Look at her interviews, there’s some awkwardness about her. She’s self-aware, a little insecure (despite her beauty). She doesn’t seem conceited at all. But some of you are way too gullible or perhaps looking for reasons to hate. You love taking her down, don’t you?
Ok but I don’t understand why some commenters here are making it seem like Halle is the only actor who has ever been the victim of celeb gossip.
We don’t know Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lawrence, Gwyneth Paltrow, etc etc on a personal level either, but that doesn’t stop 400 plus commenters weighing in on their relationships. Why is it ok to assume that Olivier (whom presumably you don’t know) is a “MAJOR DOUCHE!” but not ok for others to speculate that Berry is a manipulative and vindictive woman? I don’t see how you can pick and choose like that. Either you have ZERO opinion on celeb relationships (and you don’t belong on a celeb gossip blog) or you have a strong opinion like everyone else does, in which case how can you possibly lecture others for doing the same?
Like Affleck and other celebs, Halle is putting that narrative out there. If she wasn’t always slamming her exes, then people wouldn’t have formed such a negative opinion about how she handles break-ups. I don’t think it’s some huge witch hunt, I think people have simply noticed a disturbing pattern with her.
*shrugs*
UMMM…NO.
Concernig Olivier, we actually have proof of his douchiness. I don’t know him but I saw what I saw. Who does that apart from a hot-headed ah-hole. He is abusive and apparently can’t control his temper. Look what he did to Aubry. Halle has a pattern of dating abusers. You mean to tell me that David J. only knows now that he has children after, like 15 years? Oooh, I don’t want them to see … blah, blah. Picked a fine time to defend yourself, David J. F-off, I don’t like that you took so long to ‘defend’ yourself. I don’t like you and I don’t respect that at all.
We gossip about TSwift, Affleck etc. because they haven’t directly said anything about their relationships so we’re left to speculate and theorize. Sometimes it’s fun to do so. With Gabriel, I’m inclined to believe he isn’t entirely what he seems (a precious meek and mild individual who would never abuse someone, even verbally ). I’m just saying to keep an open mind.
She has issues (duh). This isn’t a Swifty dating game. She almost killed herself so this is serious. I’m just saying that we should be more compassionate. Maybe she needs a lot of help and therapy. Even if you don’t believe that, keep an open mind. Please. That’s all.
I don’t really understand this comment. Halle is probably the most disliked celebrity on celebitchy. There are 100 comments saying what a crazy bitch she is every single day.
Oliver beat Gabriel to pulp, cheated on Kylie.
This is why people thing he might be a douche.
Personally I think she’s a bad actress and not a very interesting person. But I can’t stand when someone is almost demonised.
Agree, Kitten!
What really solidified it was my mom. She doesn’t read celebrity gossip. If she reads anything–it’s because it ended up on Yahoo!’s homepage. But even then, that’s rare, because she’s not all that into it–celebrities, etc. But even SHE says that Halle is crazy…
@me-So it’s ok to draw a conclusion about a perfect stranger based on one incident where he lost control (because as far as we know it was ONE incident, not a pattern of violence) and come up with a firm, unwavering characterization of who he is but it’s not ok to observe a pattern of behavior (incident after incident) of another celebrity and come up with a firm characterization of who she is? THAT doesn’t make sense to me. At least be consistent. I agree with you about keeping an open mind and believe it or not, I actually do try to do that. I just take issue with you saying that people here make you “sick” because they think Halle’s behavior is problematic, that’s all. Personally, I kept an open mind about Halle for a long time, until all her sh*t got too obviously predictable to ignore.
@Tia-Sorry but Halle Berry is no more hated than Ben Affleck, Lena Dunham, Chris Brown, the Kardashians..I could go on and on. Hell Aniston is more hated around here and she was never involved in a hit-and-run. I sort of wish people would just say up-front that they’re fans and they don’t like seeing others sh*t on their favorites instead of going in circles trying to defend something that they would crucify another celeb for.
@VC-Your mom is always on-point 😉
Go Kitten! I’m here in my office cheering on this entire comment. Esp. this:
I sort of wish people would just say up-front that they’re fans and they don’t like seeing others sh*t on their favorites instead of going in circles trying to defend something that they would crucify another celeb for.
lol. well isn’t your mom very wise.
@kitten. You just want to be right, don’t you. You know you’re not.
No, there were 2 incidents – 1 when he assaulted the man at the airport and 2, when we saw the photos Gabriel’s head as punching bag. What conclusion do you come up with? At the airport, the man was just an asshole. You don’t treat people that way. Either he feels it’s ok to do that to people or he cannot control himself. One incident? A murderer can kill someone once and go to jail for life, you know. Yes, Olivier is abusive and/or feels that it’s ok to act like a baboon and assault people who do not provoke him. If it was your father Oliviere assaulted (the man fell to the ground), I think you’d see things differently. If you have time, watch the vid and come back.
What pattern of behaviour from Halle have you witnessed personally or have proof of, other than hearsay? I’ll wait.
My argument would be null and void if you can name those instances and give proof. How do you know she is? It’s well documented that Wesley S. beat her and even if David J. denies it, he’s beaten another partner as well – that’s proof that he’s capable and his tweets about having a mother and never hitting a woman was pure bullshit. What am I left to conclude? And he’s only now speaking up? Please. He obviously wants to hit her where it hurts by any means necessary.
I said I know she isn’t perfect. She may very well be a bitch but there is evidence that those men are assholes – we’ve seen it. There is none to say that Halle is this terrible woman. It’s hearsay.
Whatever, I’m done with this and I think you understand (how could you not?) but want to be right. David J just pissed me off and people are falling for his bullshit. It’s welcomed because they love to hate her. This is what sickens me.
@kitten. You just want to be right, don’t you. You know you’re not.
No, there were 2 incidents – 1 when he assaulted the man at the airport and 2, when we saw the photos Gabriel’s head as punching bag. What conclusion do you come up with? At the airport, the man was just an asshole. You don’t treat people that way. Either he feels it’s ok to do that to people or he cannot control himself. One incident? A murderer can kill someone once and go to jail for life, you know. Yes, Olivier is abusive and/or feels that it’s ok to act like a baboon and assault people who do not provoke him. If it was your father Oliviere assaulted (the man fell to the ground), I think you’d see things differently. If you have time, watch the vid and come back.
What pattern of behaviour from Halle have you witnessed personally or have proof of, other than hearsay? I’ll wait.
My argument would be null and void if you can name those instances and give proof. How do you know she is? It’s well documented that Wesley S. beat her and even if David J. denies it, he’s beaten another partner as well – that’s proof that he’s capable and his tweets about having a mother and never hitting a woman was pure bullshit. What am I left to conclude? And he’s only now speaking up? Please. He obviously wants to hit her where it hurts by any means necessary.
I said I know she isn’t perfect. She may very well be a bitch but there is evidence that those men are assholes – we’ve seen it. There is none to say that Halle is this terrible woman. It’s hearsay.
I think you understand (how could you not?) but want to be right. David J just pissed me off and people are falling for his bullshit. It’s welcomed because they love to hate her. This is what sickens me.
No one has this many bad relationships—I have dated some good and not so great men, but its a mixed bag you know?
I honestly think those with sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies are the only ones who say that every relationship of theirs was bad.
I don’t believe that. You don’t know all her exes. Let’s say you have 15 exes. You can probably find a few that ended badly. What’s the difference? Only that she married them. You’re not famous. Being in the public eye would bring those exes out of the woodwork if you became famous. You’re not in the public eye.
A few is the key word, few is not all.
…I don’t think she said ‘every relationship’. I vaguely recall exactly what she said but I remember she said ‘marriages’.
I just personally have known one person in my life thus far who said all their relationships were bad and everyone has stated he was/is a sociopath.
@andrea
According to posters here both his marriages ended very badly, with accusations against him.
So it’s not only her that has a pattern of dysfunctional relationships.
Ok, so because everyone says it, it’s definitely true. Many people have issues (insecurity, jealousy, etc) and as a result, many of their relationships end badly. That friend may well be psycho but if you have just one example of this, it’s not a strong enough argument.
I just find it very suspicious that Halle has had a lot of serious relationships blow up afterwards. This guy may be a total jerk too, but nonetheless, she clearly has issues she needs to work through as well. Someone who refuses to put the man you were with at the times name on your child’s birth certificate because you now want to be mean and play hardball, is an unstable individual IMO.
if his ex wife said those things about him. I don’t really understand why people are acting like Halle is the only problematic one.
It’s important to look at who is talking here and not blindly believe every bad thing that is said because one dislikes a person. That is demonisation.
I can understand in the case of Gabriel that people felt it was Halles fault but some of these men bring some real baggage if this was about any other women people would not make excuses for them.
This just pisses me off. His reputation was literally ruined by her crap and it seems that he is a good dad and husband. If you are a man and she comes near, run like the wind…she may be pretty on the outside, but she is UGLY on the inside.
It’s pretty clear why Justice chose this time to make his statement. He thought it was over and done with and he’s been silent about it for decades. Now it has been dredged up again in discussion of Halle’s latest divorce. His kids are now at an age when they can read about it online, and so can their friends. It is reasonable for him to speak up now. Halle definitely has allowed people to assume he was the one who deafened her, people here have confirmed that this is what they assumed back when she divorced Justice. She could have cleared it up at the time, but didn’t.
nonsense. Didn’t he anticipate his kids growing up and would eventually learn to read? His older kid is 15!! What say you about David J. assaulting and abusing his other ex? Hmmm? I can’t believe people here are just turning a blind eye to that. This is so sad. She has issues so I hope Halle’s able to weather this sh**storm. It must be heartbreaking.
David Justice is off giving interviews. It’s obvious he’s looking to make a quick buck off of Halle.
I completely support Halle calling out how her exes have mistreated her. Is she a saint? No, but she doesn’t have to be.
Look at Gabriel. He’s lazy and pathetic who can’t be bothered to get out of bed to model. Golddigger!
No Halle defender, but she isn’t the first to not name her batterer in public. Any other victims are not publicly annihilated for not naming the batteter.
Christopher Williams, R&B singer/actor publicly stated it was Snipes who damaged the eardrum years ago because he didn’t want anyone to think it was him because of the timeframe that they dated. She’s dated Shear Moore, Michael Ealy, Christopher Williams and no horrible stories came about.
Eric Benet was alleged to be a serial adulterer before, during and after Halle. I was an acquaintance of one of his background singers and thought he was so sexy until this was shared. Allegedly the relationship with India and Halle fell apart due to demands for child support. Until Gabriel, Halle never had to really pay for ending relationships.
I don’t believe Gabriel to be racist, abusive or a cheater. It seems as the allegations came only when he ended the relationship.
Olivier and marriage seemingly came about when she wanted to ace Gabriel out of the picture and move to France. Can you really bait a man with those types of boxing skills to beat someone like he did Gabe. Additional public incidents of extreme aggression to “protect”Halle and kids indicate this is how he handles things. He seems like a walking tick, tick boom!
Halle is a wreck but I never thought Dave Justice beat her. And as often as she’s been cheated on, I hope she isn’t sleeping with her co-star.
David Justice needs to take a page from Kelly Rutherford’s ex-husband’s book and act accordingly. The relationship ended in 1997-leave it there.
This is one nasty woman, IMO. Ever since her appalling treatment of Gabriel Aubry I’ve boycotted all of her movies. Not that there are any good ones any more to see so it isn’t much of a sacrifice, but still.
I don’t feel sorry at all for Olivier though, he could easily have stayed away from this deeply troubled woman – the evidence for her crazy was out in the open – but instead he took part in her persecution of the father of her daughter and then he went and procreated with her himself! That’s so irresponsible and selfish it borders on child abuse. He deserves everything she does to him now.
Some men are so stupid. Just because a woman has a pretty shell doesn’t mean she’s worth inviting into your life or worse the lives of your children, future or otherwise.
Halle is a train wreck. I guess all the ugly about her is coming out! OUch. This time girl can’t keep her bones in the closet.