As previewed earlier, Charlie Sheen gave an exclusive interview to Matt Lauer at Today this morning. His crisis manager already leaked the biggest headline yesterday: Charlie Sheen is HIV positive. Since that announcement, there has been a flood of reports, speculation and tabloid nonsense about Sheen and his former lovers. I’ll get to some of that in a moment. Here’s the Today interview:
Some of the biggest headlines from Sheen’s exclusive… he’s known about his HIV status for four years. Sheen also admits that after his diagnosis – for which he’s been and is being medicated with antiretroviral medication – he was still paying prostitutes for sex. Sheen claims that he told all of his sexual partners about his HIV status and has only had unprotected sex with two women who were “warned ahead of time” and cared for by his doctor. His doctors also say that Sheen has HIV, but not AIDS. As in, he’s living with HIV and being treated but he doesn’t have full-blown AIDS.
Sheen also claims that he’s been “shaken down” for millions of dollars from hookers, former friends and his former sexual partners, some of whom threatened to reveal his secret. Sheen did tell some people he was HIV positive, and they were the ones going to the press. TMZ confirms that Sheen has been paying some of his former partners hush money and quiet financial settlements so that they would not go public. There’s also a criminal element to this – as TMZ points out, exposing your partners to HIV is against the law. I think it’s trickier because Sheen claims he told his sexual partners about his HIV status. Of course, he also says he’s been drinking and partying like crazy this whole time too, but he says he hasn’t been doing anything with needles.
As of today, Sheen says he will not be paying any more blackmail money because, in his words, that’s taking money away from his kids. Um, does he even support his kids? This bugs me because… well, Sheen was still behaving so irresponsibly and I seriously doubt that he was coherent enough to give information to his partners and allowing all of his partners to give their informed consent about everything, you know?
Photos courtesy of WENN, Today.
Women threatening to sue because he exposed them to HIV – taking money away from his kids.
A steady diet of drugs and hookers for many years – hey, no problem!
This is why I just can’t with Charlie.
ETA: Diagnosed 4 years ago…so back to 2011? Brooke, you in danger, girl.
Sooooo true. Delusional as always.
I was surprised public reaction has been so hostile to women and friendly to him — but then it hit me:
This is the COSBY MEDIA SYNDROME.
First there’s disgust, but also lotsa defenders who attack the victims.
Then, as lawsuits and victims go public, more disgust grows and defenders fade.
Sheen is more likeable, or less unlikeable, than Cos, but saying payouts “take money from my kids” is appalling. He can probably become less likeable if he keeps it up.
I agree with Joan. The next few days will be interesting. There will probably be DOZENS who come forward within the next week or two. And I suspect they will paint a different picture than what he’s claiming.
On another note, I read his lengthy NDA, and the first paragraph was so telling. It was wording along the lines of — For the opportunity to associate with and spend time with (C.S..)… What an opportunity *that* is (sarcasm)!
Once again Chuck is the victim. Everyone is out to get him. Never mind HE was the one with the diagnosis that put his sexual partners in danger.
I also read on TMZ that Chuck also think that his condition is no longer detectable.
If he can’t be honest with himself how can he be honest with his goddess circle.
Chuck gives not one crap about his kids because all he’s ever done is embarrass them in public, throw their mothers out of the house leaving the children temporarily homeless.
Zero sympathy for Charlie, but lots for his ex wife Denise and his kids.
So much dangerous & stigmatizing information about HIV/AIDS going around right now — in these comments, in this and other posts. Stigma results in people avoiding getting tested and getting on treatment among many other bad things.
Key points: HIV isn’t a death sentence for those who can access treatment at the right time.
Plus, treatment often makes transmission impossible.
That’s right — those who, like Charlie Sheen, are on treatment and have undetectable viral loads, cannot pass HIV on.
Stigma kills and could get in the way of the achievable goal of ending HIV/AIDS in our lifetimes. Educate yourself to be part of the solution.
How to talk about HIV/AIDS accurately and respectfully:
http://mic.com/articles/128718/how-to-talk-about-hiv#.H3Rh0K54l
@shockedandappalled: but that’s also assuming that Charlie Sheen, who hasn’t been clean and sober in a very long time, is following all of his treatment protocols appropriately. And even if he’s being treated, he is obligated to disclose his HIV status to sexual partners.
Yes I agree @Bridget. No one is saying it is death sentence to live with HIV; clearly it is not. That’s not the issue people have with Charlie Sheen. It’s just more than likely, he is lying about disclosing his medical issues to his former lovers. There are already articles stating that women are ready to come forward and file civil lawsuits against him for not divulging his HIV status. And I have a very hard time believing that Charlie Sheen is so “diligent” about taking his treatment medications given his extensive (and admitted) history of drug/alcohol abuse. But even then, it doesn’t matter. He is legally obliged to disclose his HIV status, regardless.
” HIV isn’t a death sentence for those who can access treatment at the right time.”
This is a big point. Charlie might have access to treatment that those he possibly infected do not. “For those who can” is not everyone.
I heard Bree Olsen on Howard Stern this morning quite emotionally stating she found out only yesterday about the HIV diagnosis. That Sheen did not tell her & only used lamb skin condoms (bad for preventing disease) while with her. Yes I know she was a sex worker but she also never sold Charlie out or made money off of him. Gary (Howard’s producer) verfied that she turned down money from them (undisclosed amount) & $200,000 once before on an offer to sell out Charlie which makes her believable.
This just hammers home what an immoral sack of excrement Charlie is. Also it is a CRIME to have sex & not disclose you are HIV positive
I heard her interview as well; she was clearly upset which is understandable. I know Charlie will try to make the claim that these “unsavory” women (as he called them in his Today interview) are not to be believed b/c of their association with the porn industry, but it’s very difficult for me to believe anything Charlie Sheen has to say anymore. He is so deluded at this point, he probably believes his own lies and he is clearly very mentally ill (as we all witnessed years ago with his winning and tiger blood rants). Another one of his exes (Rossi) claims she did not know either and these were women he was in “relationships” with…..I think it is a safe assumption he was not disclosing his health issues to all the random hookers/porn stars he has been with! I guess it will be a he said/she said thing and he will use the fact that they are prostitutes/porn stars against them, but JESUS sad all around, especially for his poor kids who have to live with him as a father figure 🙁
If Bree Olsen had sex with Charlie Sheen after he found out 4 years ago he was infected, she will be fine. According to his doctor, who was on the Today Show with him this morning, he has been on treatment since he found out, and his viral load is undetectable, meaning he cannot give it to someone else.
And if she is infected, luckily, treatment will keep her alive and she is likely to live a long life. HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence if you can access treatment.
Much incorrect info being perpetuated on this site.
Successful treatment is a preventative measure – this is common, standard knowledge about HIV/AIDS for more than six years. Please get your facts straight because spreading myths about HIV/AIDS perpetuates stigma and discourages people from getting tested, knowing their status, and getting treatment. Given treatment keeps people alive plus is a prevention tool, we should stop spreading myths about this disease. We need people to get tested and get treatment so we can end this disease in our lifetime.
http://mic.com/articles/128685/here-s-what-you-need-to-know-about-hiv-before-you-read-anything-about-charlie-sheen#.b4Vc7VhBq
I’m sorry, what incorrect info? Did I miss something that HIV+ individuals aren’t obligated to disclose that fact to their sexual partners? And you are sadly misinformed if you think that HIV can’t be transmitted if the viral load is undetectable. It’s far less likely, but it’s not impossible (I think the statistic has it at 96% effective, which still isn’t 100%).
Not to mention, you’re placing an awful lot of weight on the words of Charlie Sheen and the doctor he’s provided to the Today Show.
@shockedandappalled
Sorry, but the information you are repeatedly spreading is incorrect and dangerous. If someone’s viral load is undetectable is simply means it is below the threshold of detection of the instrument. It is still possible to spread the disease to another person.
If Bree Olsen had sex with Charlie Sheen after he found out 4 years ago he was infected, she will be fine. According to his doctor, who was on the Today Show with him this morning, he has been on treatment since he found out, and his viral load is undetectable, meaning he cannot give it to someone else.
Who’s perpetuating incorrect information??
Shockedandappalled, please stop posting that you cannot spread HIV with an undetectable viral load. That is misinformation. It is difficult to transmit HIV, yes, but absolutely possible. And this thread is more about consent than it is about the epidemiology of HIV. Nobody here disputes that you can live a long and heappyvlife with HIV. It is the fact that it looks like Sheen never gave these women a chance to make that choice themselves that we are responding to.
“And if she is infected, luckily, treatment will keep her alive and she is likely to live a long life. HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence if you can access treatment.”
What so, lucky her then? That’s ridiculous. Pussy footing around how disgusting it is to knowingly expose someone to HIV doesn’t help your cause. If she’s infected then she also has a lifelong very serious illness and nowhere near Sheen’s fortune to access the best treatment. Especially since having it would kill her income stream.
Yes and of course today Sheen’s rep is saying that Charlie did not have HIV when he was with Bree Olson. Typical. No doubt this will come down to a he said/she said thing, and I agree with an earlier poster about this being similar to the Cosby situation. It is really pathetic and sad that the public will be more willing to shame some of these women that Charlie has been with (b/c they are porn stars or in the adult industry) rather than point a finger at the disgusting and vile behavior of Sheen. As Olson pointed out in her Howard Stern interview, she is a HUMAN BEING just like the rest of us. I am sure that is why Sheen picks those women so he can character assassinate them later when he needs to. Pathetic. And I am in no way condoning their association with the porn industry or with Sheen; any woman with her self-esteem in tact would do those things, but still……….I can’t help but judge the HELL out of Charlie Sheen. Just look at how he has treated his ex wife Denise and that says it ALL.
Actually it doesn’t have to come down completely to a he said she said. If that leaked statement is true and he didn’t find out till after they broke up blood tests and prescriptions for the beginning of anti-viral drugs will prove one way or the other.
Not really trying to side with Charlie, as his behavior is abominable especially with domestic abuse, but I do wonder why people are so judgmental of him and not the partners. Sorry to have sex with a man you know is drugged out of his mind and having sex with multiple people you are also committing some risky behavior. Keep in mind he caught it from someone too. No one deserves this disease, and I hope that none of his exes are infected, but I guess there is at least one or a shared drug user.
Well, that is a cautionary tale. Sorry to hear the news but better that it is made public, I guess, for anyone involved.
I am not surprised by this at all. Man takes huge risks, and then lost the gamble. I feel slightly bad, but this story only gets a mild shoulder shrug from me because it is the most predictable turn of events EVER.
I dont give him the credibility. Call me bitter but I dont believe anything that such a person says.
Me too. I think that he opened up and let loose a big bunch of lies sprinkled with an ounce of truth. Lots of word twisting going on. I feel sure he knowingly exposed prostitutes because he thinks them and all women are disposable.
Shame if his business partners were taking his money though.
This. His misogyny knows no bounds. It’s revolting.
It sounds more like prostitutes were ‘shaking him down’ rather than business associates.
“His misogyny knows no bounds.”
So true. He even tried to shade the women again in this situation, as if he some how is morally superior to porn stars and prostitutes.
“In and around this perplexing time, I dazedly chose or hired the companionship of unsavory and insipid types. Regardless of their saltless reputations,…”
Ikr?
He says hes known for four years, his doctor a HIV specialist says he has been with Charlie for 5/6 years.
When asked whether he was being extorted or whether he was simply settling out of court claims, see how long he hesitates to respond.
When asked whether he could have transmitted the disease, he says impossible. Lies because if he was only tested when he came down with migraines that would mean he may have been carrying it for years. He may have transmitted it to dozens in that time, so why claim it is impossible.
He says he has no idea where he got it, fair enough. But this suggests he didnt trace previous partners to warn them to get tested. Thats usually the process by which a promiscous partner narrows down his source.
He claims to have informed every single partner and to have used condoms since learning of it, but he is also still a drunk (and he is probably lying about being drug free), so hands up anybody who believes this……I have a bridge to sell you.
And the final douchebag Sheen move, referring to the sex workers as “unsavoury scum” types. Does this guy own a mirror?!! How the hell can he slut shame anybody?
Isnt it obvious that he is protecting himself from litigation? But he is a famous white man so sympathy naturally skews in his direction. There will be no questioning of his potentially murderous lies.
I agree with all of this, except I think he is only 75% white.
Naya, he most likely hasn’t traced back to determine who/where he got it from because he can’t remember/doesn’t know who a lot of those people are. It’s not like he’s only ever partied and slept with a small circle of people. I just feel so sad for his children and grandchild.
News flash! Martin Sheen’s father was from Spain, making him white. So Charlie Sheen is not “75% white”!!!
@Lucky Charm. Good point. Its upon you to reach out to partners from your past though. If you cant trace them, you post a damn public notice. He should have bought advertising space on the LA Times and warned anybody who’s been with him to get tested, especially since HE doesnt know how long he had had it. If I were a tabloid editor and this story had landed on my desk four years ago, I would have considered it a duty to God and to mankind to publish it post haste.
Good points, Naya.
A famous white man gets sympathy and no one else does? As if no one was sympathetic to Magic Johnson.
Can you believe Chuck went to the doctor for headaches and then found out his condition. No, me neither.
Chuck would self medicate if he felt crappy which I’m sure was 24/7. With a mixture of alcohol and drugs Chuck probably was numb.
He probably needed a physical for a acting job years ago and found out that way. And that after the doctor who examined him chased him down because his life is so erratic.
For all we know he could have just been getting tested by the best because of his choices in sex partners long before he actually tested positive. So the different numbers of years he gives and his doctor gives aren’t proof of anything. They could both be right. Testing for HIV isn’t so simple that a rich man would trust any old clinical test. When a not rich friend was potentially exposed just because he had been helping a sick friend (didn’t know it was AIDS until he saw the death certificate) and so was handling bodily fluids – I told him that he needed to wait a few months before getting tested (it isn’t automatically detectable) and that if it were me, I would be tested by at least three separate labs and even then it could be a false positive or negative… People trust lab tests for everything way too much. One of my professional societies (for chemists) tests analytical labs periodically and finds they are incorrect at least 80% or more of the time. Even with automatic machines to reduce human error, people are still sloppy about sample handling and preparation, and the HIV test is fussier than the typical analytical test for a specific chemical compound or element. I had chem labs with med tech students, making me especially wary. Really! Some of them just made up numbers and didn’t bother washing glassware. When I got zero percent yields, at least it was an honest failure… (One instructor kindly said he could sort of smell the compound in my test tube.)
And anybody who has sexual contact with anybody else today could be incubating HIV along with more than 100 other known sexually transmitted diseases. People often don’t know they have anything and they also routinely lie about their sexual history. Some people just never get symptoms, because their own immune system keeps things under control. That includes the HIV virus. Their partners may be much more susceptible. So blaming Charlie for exposing other people before he had a diagnosis himself is assuming he should be better than everybody else in the world who isn’t celibate.
And if the virus isn’t detectable then it just isn’t detectable – putting him in the same category as everybody else who tests negative for HIV. You don’t assume someone is contagious for any other virus when there are no detectable levels of the virus, even though of course there can be some level of the virus present that can multiply under the right conditions (so the same microbeastie, such as the virus causing shingles, can become a problem later for the same person; I’ve certainly had the same microbeastie reappear the next year or even sooner, and using antibiotics makes this process even more likely). I can understand being skeptical of Charlie’s version of events, but he could also be telling the truth. He needs to act as though he’s HIV-positive, though, because of the serious consequences and the fact that he won’t know for months if the virus is no longer controlled and is multiplying to a hazardous level. But that’s true of everybody today.
He didn’t trace because he can’t. He was out of his mind for probably the vast majority of those sexual contacts. He doesn’t have a clue to contact, and multiply that by one million–it’s not feasible.
He’s a drug addict. And an addict, period. His life will always be chaos. There was no regular testing, no informed consent.
Also, as I understand it, the virus isn’t undetectable. There’s a qualifier: the virus is undetectable IF he takes his anti retroviral whatever meds.
So he’s just going to desperately cover his ass by spouting a fountain of lies and personal responsibility.
Nope. How can you? He looked very close to losing his temper when Matt Lauer pressed him on how difficult it is to believe he has taken his medication every day for four years, as he claims-“never missed a single day,” while under the influence. It’s difficult for me to remember to take any medication every day, let alone someone who has admitted to serious drug abuse and still is drinking, I imagine to excess, regularly.
Can’t even remember to take my vitamins. And they are right next to my bed and another set on the dining table.
The victims will be coming forth with their stories. So we will hear more.
And I do not like the trend that is happening in the media today where the stars are throwing him support and one Hooker-Madame extraordinaire saying she would marry hm. We are not shaming Charlie for having HIV and fair amount of compassion is going his way. But there are victims here!!! And this is a man that may have willingly infected others. Who has unprotected sex knowing they are HIV positive??? They need to shutdown the Hollywood wagon that s making Charlie a hero. He is a longtime failure of human being—abusive, child-endangering scum, bad to his ex-wives, bad to colleagues, bad to his servicep0rnstars. Yes we can support him by saying take your meds and get help for your issues but NO we should not be saying that his obvious indignation (re claims of extortion) are warranted.
It cannot be about Charlie this time. It must be about his victims and his children and his poor ex-wives.
Thank you for reminding me to take my vitamins! *gets up and goes to kitchen*
I do not wish ill health on anyone. But this is a man who gleefully lived a high-risk lifestyle for years. I know that anyone can contract this disease, but having metric f*ck-tons of unprotected sex and experimenting with needle-based drugs are not very good ways to ensure that you don’t contract a disease. In no way am I saying he or anyone deserves this, but most intelligent adults know that high-risk actions carry high-risk consequences. The man is no martyr, and I reserve most of my sympathy for his family, his children, and the women who were unfortunate enough to have sex with him.
Agree that he knew the potential consequences, but just didn’t care. I personally never GAF about how self-destructive he is beyond the fact that I’m shocked he’s survived for this long.
So….I’m sure I’m going to regret asking this but how do we not know that the prostitutes he had sex with didn’t know that he was HIV positive? Do people really think that you can’t put a price tag on that risk? I’m trying to tread lightly but I don’t understand how everyone is just assuming that a man who is worth $150 mill wouldn’t be able to find a woman (women?) willing to have sex with him, knowing he is HIV positive, for the right price.
Again, there are so many unknowns here. I don’t doubt that he could have knowingly infected women because the dude is a Grade A selfish ahole but I’m still trying to reserve judgment until we know for sure. Maybe some knew and some didn’t, maybe none knew. I don’t know…
He’s willing to kick his own children out of their house for spite, so I have no problem believing he would think nothing of knowingly exposing his partners to HIV.
I, too, will reserve judgment as to whether or not he knowingly infected anyone, for that is a heavy accusation to make without any proof. Would I be shocked if he did? Certainly not. But as for right now, I’m only judging him for knowingly living a life that could lead to disease and just not giving a f*ck. No sympathy on that front.
Honestly, I’m sure many people are asking themselves that question. I’m pretty sure you can find people to have unprotected sex with you after disclosing your status if you pay enough money. Let’s not pretend that most of us aren’t capable of morally dubious things under the right circumstances.
My issue is not necessarily that he found them but that he was looking for them. What kind of person carrying a life-threatening virus (I don’t care about this whole you-can-live-a-long-life-with-the-right-medication-shebang, we still have not found a cure) goes out and looks for people who are willing to put their life on the line for cash just so he/she doesn’t have to use a condom??? WHAT human being would do this? An asshole, that’s who. A horrible douchebag. That is why I can’t muster up much sympathy here. Because he thought it would be okay to do that because … money.
ETA: Of course I don’t know whether the 2 women (two women my ass) who were “warned ahead of time” were paid or simply did it out of the goodness of their … hearts I guess.
From what I’ve read those in the porn industry who supplied him with access to porn actors/actresses knew he was HIV positive and it was suggested that some of those he slept knew – it was an open ‘secret’ in Hollywood. So yes i guess I am saying that there were those who chose to have unprotected sex with him for the money. I think there is a mix of those who knew and those who didn’t.
@Crumpet-If that’s the case and if these women can prove it in court, then he’s going to jail.
It’s surprising to me that a man who’s worth $150 mill would take the gamble of potentially going to jail in lieu of simply shelling out hush money to keep former partners quiet.
Seems like a losing game, no?
He must be quite convinced that he has all his bases covered and they have no case against him. Either that or Tiger Blood still thinks he’s invincible.
@Littlemissnaughty-“What kind of person carrying a life-threatening virus (I don’t care about this whole you-can-live-a-long-life-with-the-right-medication-shebang, we still have not found a cure) goes out and looks for people who are willing to put their life on the line for cash just so he/she doesn’t have to use a condom???”
THIS. So so much.
@Betti & Shamby-ITA 100%
Well, we know from him that two agreed to go on Truveda just so he could have condomless sex with them. I hope to God he had their consent to reveal that. its unlikely that all or even most of his partners would agree to those terms though. Plus I’m pretty sure that the guy who makes his guests sign NDAs at the gate would be sure to document that type of consent on a contract.
Yes, @Naya. Right there. They would have signed NDAs as well as informed consent contracts stating that they knew they were having sex with someone with HIV. If he cannot produce those documents for every partner, he’s screwed. And not in a fun way.
Excellent points raised by everyone. Given the industry he was sourcing his casual-just-for-sex partners from, I’m wondering how many of them might already have had the condition? If there was one or more, it wouldn’t have made any difference to them, except to strike a nice little pot of gold.
I think it’s true that there are people out there who would take the risk for $$, but I think the issue here is more that Charlie is claiming that he was 100% on the up and up honest with 100% of his partners, 100% of the time – – — while at the same time saying he was deep into drugs and booze. I don’t think he was sitting there rubbing his fingers together like Mr. Burns going I hope these hookers get HIV, but I think it’s absolutely very likely that he, and the hookers, were never coherent or competent enough to be lucid enough to inform, converse, consent.
What’s with the kid gloves? It’s Charlie Sheen FFS, and he’s getting all of my judgement. Of course he says he’s going to “deliver a cure”. Of course. Not for the “unsavory” characters he used to run with, but for his own selfish ass.
I was trying to tread lightly due to the sensitive nature of the disease itself, but of course I’m judging the f*ck out of Charlie. My point was that he’s reaping what he has sewn.
Gotcha. You’re always so correct, Shambles. 😉
“Deliver a cure” AND “help” people with the disease (or from getting the disease, whatever this turd said).
Uh, thanks, Charles, but no thanks. Not sure you’re the right person for the job.
I wonder how people who live with HIV feel hearing a line of garbage like that? Especially people who weren’t engaged in such long-term, high-risk behaviour and were affected.
Lol, Mimifz. I just don’t want to hurt anyone’s feels. I have lots of feels myself, and I know it sucks when they hurt.
You know you and I are Eye to eye here Mimif I mean, I can’t even with this guy
Thank you mimif! He wanted people to feel sorry for him and it’s working. Not with me though. I don’t even play the violin.
I think we all need to go ahead and acknowledge and get it out the way that no one is sh*tting on Charlie solely for being HIV positive. We’re sh*tting on Charlie because he’s a long-standing abusive piece of dirt and he’s very likely gone about his life since finding out about his status in a sh*tty way. Nobody “deserves” HIV. Charlie doesn’t deserve shame for having HIV. He deserves shame for the way he’s conducted himself. Over and over again.
This exactly. You said it so much better than I could have.
This times a million, tabasco.
This! I don’t wish death and or disease on anybody but this diagnosis does not negate the fact that Charlie Sheen is and has been a POS for a long, long time.
100 times yes. No sympathy. Network gave this man millions to star in a sitcom knowing he was a complete dirtbag. No sympathy whatsoever. I’ll reserve my sympathy for all his partners (although some of them probably should have known better). And his kids. What the hell does he think he’s done to them with his behaviors? He owes them a massive apology. I hope he gets sober enough to explain it some day.
Yes, he is not the poster boy for “please don’t judge me”
I only wish the women he’s trying to shame now were more judgmental, because he probably put them all at risk.
I think he has untreated mental illness. I almost couldn’t finish the interview because he reminds me so much of my dad, who is also a high functioning, old druggie. The verbosity, the vocabulary, the intensity, the almost inappropriate social interaction unfolding with a whiff of desperation as he aims for normalcy…just a combination of.personality traits (or mental illness, probably bipolar. My dad got a manic depressive diagnosis back in the day) that I think are indicative of a massive susceptibility to substance abuse.
OK so basically he’s doing this just because he’s tired of making the payouts. Sigh.
Actually it has been all over the internet for weeks that a mystery Hollywood actor is HIV positive. Most places assumed it was Charlie Sheen. I think stopping the payout is an added bonus.
All the people saying he deserves it for his behavior, or his motives are bad, etc ,please give off your sanctimonious high horse for a moment and think about the awareness he is bringing to the issue. People can look at his choices and see what the results are. His life style has been a train wreck for years and this comes as no surprise, but have a little sympathy for someone dealing with a serious illness.
Zero sympathy for this POS. I’m not seeing him elevate the HIV convo whatsoever, it’s all a means to his selfish end.
@mimif – +1. Well said.
Exactly. Apparently Sex, drugs, and rock’n’roll lifestyle became too expensive. What a piece of work.
Yeah that was the impression I got from the Today interview with him. He doesn’t want to keep paying so he’s coming forward.
Exactly this, if I feel for anything is his Kids and any woman, no matter the provenance of said lady that he exposed to this, but he himself??? no, whatever he is the worst
He’s doing this because he was found out. The Enquirer has been working on this story for a year and is set to publish. Sheen’s just trying to get ahead of it.
And poor Charlie Sheen, right? He’s sick and these evil women are shaking him down. UGH. This is why he chooses such sketchy women as his romantic and sexual partners – because when things inevitably go bad, he can discredit them. When they finally leave his sorry butt because he’s an abusive nutjob, he can just say “hey, she’s a porn star, can you really believe a word she says?”. Supposetdly, this guy exposed at least 4 of his sexual partners (including his last fiance) to HIV through unprotected sex.
Exactly, Bridget. This is the most dangerous kind of sociopath, IMO. Dude has proven himself over and over and over again to be an aggressive, dangerous and dishonest creep. How he has any platform to speak on bewilders (and disgusts) me.
I hope he gets what’s coming to him.
kcarp, “sanctimonius high horse?” Pot, meet kettle.
Makes sense though, doesn’t it? This isn’t the kind of person who does things out of the goodness of his heart. Methinks he may be running low on funding and that’s why *just now* this is a problem. Clearly he’s had no issues simply paying people off in the past.
if he exposed someone to hiv, i would assume the money he paid them is for potential damages not hush money as he puts it. i hope he didnt infect anyone but i dont trust him to be super careful.
Yeah, I doubt this is hush money. Radar reported that one of the women was repped by Gloria Allred. What I think was that, as a courtesy, the woman’s attorney probably approached Sheen to say, “WE have this claim. If you want to settle this outside of court, nothing will be filed.” It doesn’t sound like extortion, it sounds like a settlement after out of court negotiations.
Bringing in the “what about the children’s future money” just turns my stomach. What about the millions he spent on prostitutes, booze and drugs. Ugh
Dont forget the grand child. I mean these soul sucking, scummy sex workers trying to sue….sorry Charlie, SHAKE DOWN, a loving grandpa. Disgusting.
His comment sounded like a ‘talking point’ his handlers had encouraged/advised him to make. They know very well that Charlie will garner very little compassion on his own. His creep factor is too high – going way back to the 80s.
PR wise, he frigged up by attaching an amount/value to the money his poor kiddies were being scammed out of – what average Joe can identify with figures into the millions?
Denise is the best thing he had going for him. Despite all his twisted weirdness, she remained a support to him. Brooke – what a friggin’ mess she is. I feel the need to douse myself with an insecticide – most likely DDT – when I see a photo of her. Just yuck.
He lives a soulless life. Plus, I think he’s insane.
That’s it in a nutshell.
This.
I really think there is some serious mental illness here. He is probably bi polar.
And, if there wasn’t to start with, his lifestyle got him there.
Hmmmmm…I’m not convinced that he has mental health issues that were caused by anything other than continuous crack abuse.
If you’ve ever seen someone on crack cocaine, their behavior can be quite erratic, even seemingly manic at times. So perhaps he just has long-term damage from using for so many years.
I think it shows in his face. He’s crazy and empty inside.
I read somewhere that it’s much easier to hide your true personality/feelings/emotions when you’re young because your facial expressions haven’t yet “set” in your face. As you age, your skin develops lines and creases corresponding to the expressions you make most frequently. Since many expressions are unconscious, over the years your face will mold itself to match your expressions even when you’re not making them. Basically “if you don’t stop making that face it’ll freeze like that” isn’t just an annoying thing to say to children. Older people aren’t just “wrinkled”, the story of their life is written on their face for anyone to read if they just look closely. I found it a very interesting theory.
I get a different vibe. I get the crazy but not empty. More like extremely depressed and troubled and unhappy and with severe low self-esteem. That doesn’t mean I have sympathy for him. I suffer from severe depression and low self-worth and I don’t do what he does. At some point he chose not to get any sort of real help.
Note to self: smile more, cackle louder, blow more kisses and stick index finger into cheeks to make old-age dimples.
I’ve struggled with depression too and for me the best way to describe it was emptiness. Everyone’s experience is different though, and I think we can all agree the guy has deeply rooted issues, whatever they may be.
This is why I feel sorry for him. My mom suffers from depression and that’s not only been a heavy burden for her but for me too. My compassion and empathy isn’t to excuse the harm he’s done to others or even what could be his f*cked up personality but only to say my heart goes out to anyone battling a mental illness and now this along with the fallout to others around him.
People engage in a lot of escapist and self-destructive behavior to blot out the pain and emptiness. Having tons of money at his disposal and time on his hands was also a co-conspirator in this. If only, the way he used those things could have been different.
@wren, I’ve read that theory as well and I don’t think it’s too far from the truth (and so I try to smile more than frown ;-). I get a strong vibe from his face (not to mention his lifestyle) that he is empty inside … he might be insane or deeply depressed.
Oh wow. So much THIS!
I see your point on the emptiness, Wren. I was thinking of it in terms of empty of feelings and since I see so many negative feelings in him I didn’t think of him as empty, but I can see why others would. I tend to think his behavior is to blot out pain, as Dena said, but at this point my sympathy is nonexistent for him. He’s not only hurting himself; he’s hurting so many other people. At some point we have to say enough to him.
I think he’s bipolar with mania and possibly psychotic features. When this story broke yesterday, I asked one of the psychiatrists at work what he thought, and his hunch was bipolar. People with bipolar who abuse drugs often like cocaine; they like the rush and the mania and want to avoid the lows.
Thank you for bringing this up. I have always believed Charlie was bipolar. His manic outbursts, poor impulse control, spending sprees, substance abuse issues and hypersexuality are all indicators that he has a ongoing mental illness. If left untreated could lead to irrational behavior. It doesn’t give him a pass on his egregious behavior, but does explain it better.
The stigma of mental illness is alive and well, add that to Charlie’s HIV status, he’ll be the butt of jokes rather then compassion, perhaps justly so; but it still saddens me.
You do coke and speed and alcohol and other drugs long enough, you’ll burn out part of your brain. Basically what he’s done. I think the “mental illness” is now a permanent chemical imbalance and scarred brain cells. He should be depressed because he had luck and talent and he wasted them.
If he was actually shaken down I would try to get those people arrested.
As for his story, who knows if he’s telling the truth, but people need to think every potential partner is infected and protect themselves. That’s the only way you can be safe.
I’m from the AIDS generation ie when AIDS first appeared and people died within months of contracting the HIV virus.
Keeping it wrapped up was drummed into our heads. Even with long term partners. Frankly i’m surprised there wasn’t a dip I the population because my generation was seriously drilled about using condoms at. all. times. Even with long term partners.
breeders gonna breed
Yes, LAK. I am hugely shocked at a bunch of teens and 20 somethings being on birth control pills because they love going bare with their boyfriends….saywhat!!!!! When I was 15 my aunt sat me and my 12 year old cousins down and we had to watch a documentary about HIV/AIDS…vivid and disturbing with people telling their sad stories…down to a dentist how scared he was working in his profession…
Condomless sex never occurred to me!!! In my 20s I said I wouldn’t get married because then I would have to have unprotected sex with my husband. Lol. I was out-of-my mind scared of HIV and Herpes.
Same here. I remember when the gay community was being blamed for the whole epidemic and it was a constant witch hunt.
Televangelists would say that gays were responsible and the fact they have the disease was their punishment for disobeying the laws of God.
I remember years when a young man contracted the disease from a blood transfusion and his neighbors burned down the house.
It was a disgusting time in history.
One thing struck me: he alleges he has told every single sexual partner he’s had in the past four years. I am estimating he’s had hundreds of sexual partners over the past four years. I cannot believe, if he told 100 sexual partners he had HIV that it would not have leaked prior to this. It seems highly improbable.
Me too!
I’ve had unprotected sex with ONE person (my partner of 7 years) and, no joke, sometimes when I’m feeling unwell I wonder if I have HIV. I know this is statistically incredibly unlikely, but growing up in that time, when we learned graphic details of what it is like to contact HIV remains terrifying to me! (as an aside, alll the anti-drug stuff worked on me for a really long time too. I didn’t smoke a joint until I was 25!)
I watched the interview and Charlie’s facial expressions were disturbing. I kept wondering “is he high?” Is he just fried from the lifestyle? Is he still in denial? It was difficult to watch.
I’d say all of the above. You just can’t sustain that level of drug abuse for that long without lasting damage.
It was difficult to watch. His brain is fried.
“He that lieth down with dogs shall rise up with fleas.”
When I heard this on the news this morning, I had the same thought Kaiser. He’s been so strung out for the last, what, decade? More? There’s no way he’s informed all the women he’s slept with over the years that he’s HIV positive. And even if he did, I’m sure most of the women were also under the influence at the time and unable to make an informed decision.
I’m sure he doesn’t even remember all the people he’s had sex with, let alone their contact information.
Again he says he’s going public so he doesn’t pay more hush money. it’s not about his kids, it’s about him.
I’m sorry for his illness, but he’s still a jerk from where I stand.
He supports his kids, its his ex-wives he tries to not support.
Imo Denise Richards is owed every cent he gives her. She has stepped up and been the only stability for all his children on multiple occasions. Brooke not so much…
At one point he was trying to get his child support cut. So to me bringing in that it effects his children’s future support is bull. He has spent millions on prostitutes, drugs and “goddesses”. He needs a reality check and apparently this isn’t it. I don’t wish HIV on anyone, even Charlie.
There was a story a while ago that he was trying to kick Denise and the kids out of their house, so Denise had to look around for a new school for the kids. He also sided with Brooke when she refused to get her boys tested (despite Denise being the one who had taken care of them and brought stability to their lives). He doesn’t give a crap about his children.
This guy is scum and I have no sympathy for him. And his looks have completely deteriorated and now reflect what is on the inside – he looks like a ghoul.
Wonder that he sees in the mirror?
His father looks younger than he does. Emilio has aged well. It is amazing Charlie made it to 50, given his lifestyle choices.
I have huge compassion to anyone who has contracted this illness. Nobody deserves this. I think it’s disgusting that anyone would blackmail someone who is in a vulnerable position. I hope he stays the course and lives a responsible life. Does anyone else think there’s a connection when he went off the rails a few years ago and his HIV status? Anyways,I wish him a healthy life ahead, both mentally and physically.
Blackmail or hush money? He was paying people he’d exposed to HIV.
I definitely think he should pay someone if he gave them HIV. It’s a he said she said situation and Charlie is a proven liar. If he got someone sick, then he is responsible for their medical care and money should be given.
How about money for the lifetime of expensive medical care they now have?
He went off the rails and looked every bit the AIDS patient, didn’t he? You need to live a healthy lifestyle (and take butt loads of antivirals) in order to keep HIV from blowing up into AIDS, and even then, sometimes it still does. I don’t give him much of a chance, honestly.
I totally had that thought too. I mean we can all argue about whether he deserved it …but I think we can all agree that finding out you have HIV is maybe the worst nightmare ever. The timing makes sense for sure.
Ugh… Also, Magic Johnson is living with the disease and he is a very wealthy man with lots of means. There are still lots of people for whom it is a death sentence. This guy is such a jerk.
But the difference between Magic Johnson and Charlie Sheen is that while they can afford the best medical care/medication, Magic Johnson takes care of himself while Charlie doesn’t. Am I only one that also Charlie is past just being HIV positive and has AIDS?
I wouldn’t be surprised if that comes out soon. We see the “care” he has been taking with his health since he claims he found out. I don’t know how effective his meds could be if he is constantly under the influence of something, plus who knows if he managed to take them all when he is supposed to.
I doubt a doctor is going to lie on national television about his patient’s HIV status. Charlie’s doctor said it is not AIDS, so I’m going to believe that. The doctor’s reputation would be gone if he was caught lying.
The misinformation about HIV/AIDS in some comment threads today makes me think I’ve been time-warped back to 1985. Get educated, people.
He should have just made it public four years ago, when he found out. I’m sure nobody is surprised by this news, and would not have been surprised four years ago…that could have saved him millions of dollars and made anyone having sex, or sharing needles with him aware of the danger…
The blind items claimed the ‘A lister’ was concerned about how his acting legacy would be affected, should he reveal it.
That part did not seem to fit Charlie — until I remembered how utterly delusional he can be. Worried about his acting legacy?
That’s just it, as bad as he is, he’s not obligated to come out to the public about his health status just to his partners.
I believe that we hear/read famous people’s health condition more often because they want to beat the media to it not necessarily because they really want to reveal it and IMO it’s disturbing because just like children, it should be off limit regardless of who you are
Charlie is definitely not the only celebrity who is HIV positive, there have been many blinds over the years about diffferent people. The media never names them though, they treat HIV like homosexuality in that its a no go zone except in special curcumstances. Charlies special circumstances were that four women had actually filed suit, his lifestyle was a known mess plus it had become industry common knowledge after the Sony wiki leaks.
I have to say also, if I was the journalist who got final conclusive evidence, I WOULD have published. No reasonable man would presume that Charlie friggin Sheen was doing everything in his power to protect others. And the thing with HIV is you never know who will develop into AIDS before they are even diagnosed. This is one of those situations in which privacy is trumped.
Charlie Sheen has been on treatment since he found out about his diagnosis and his viral load is undetectable meaning he can’t transmit the disease, even if he has unprotected sex or shares a needle with someone.
Exposing people who are positive only discourages them from getting testing and accessing treatment. That is incredibly dangerous since TREATMENT IS PREVENTION. Look it up and be part of the solution instead of perpetuating unfair stigma about HIV.
That’s not true, though. Anybody who is HIV+ can transmit the virus. A person with a very low viral load is unlikely to transmit it, but they can. There is nobody with HIV who is not at risk. An undetectable viral load simply means the testing available today cannot detect the virus in the blood – it does not mean the virus is not present anymore.
This is not about stigmatizing people with HIV. This is about pointing out the reckless and possibly criminal behavior of ONE person with HIV. Scottine was on Howard Stern today and said that he never disclosed it to her (and their whole relationship took place after his diagnosis). She also said that when they did use condoms, he preferred lambskin (which is NOT an effective barrier against HIV). So he basically took her life in his own hands and gambled with it. He’s a reckless douche who gambled with lives other than his own. There is no defense for it. And you should know better than to spread misinformation. Any HIV+ person can infect another – it’s just a matter of risk. The risk may be very low, but there is always a risk. And he had a duty to tell his partners and try to protect them – he failed in that.
If we are going to go with “reliable” sources they are also reporting that he didn’t find out until after he broke up with her too. Still if that is true he should have told her, but I’m not sure I believe her entirely either. You have sex with a guy who has sex with multiple people and you were a porn star, and you don’t get an HIV test for four years? Let’s not forget we go on Howard Stern to find out too, Just doesn’t hold water.
Don’t believe Charlie either, but I do kind of believe he has a good legal team. If they didn’t think they could withstand the accusations he didn’t inform his sexual partners they wouldn’t have encouraged him to go public. It opens him up to criminal prosecution and stronger civil suits, and it might have been better not to speak publicly. The one thing the former partner is definitely right about is these women are now the girl who slept with HIV positive Charlie, and there is a stigma attached. I really think the legal team thinks it would stop the money payments, and they were the ones who encouraged him to go public. Either way if the women have legitimate legal claims no statute of limitations exist on this they will get their chance in court. Which is how it should be.
Yeah, those years spent with prostitutes, porn stars and a needle in his arm were actually all about his kids. Dad of the century. What a loser.
Addiction sucks
Exactly!
This is not surprising at all but does Denise know? Brooke and their little twins? Have they been tested? You would think he would be all about being healthy and learning to live with HIV but noooooooooooooooo he has to be a douche and blame the hookers and porn people for “taking” his kids money! Ugh! Such a douche!
The only part I believe is that he has been making payments to keep people quiet. With the amount of booze and drugs he’s been doing for the last few years there is no way he has been telling all his partners about his status or taking the time to put on condoms while high and/or drunk.
I am also side eyeing his claim that he only had unprotected sex with 2 women who knew in advance of his status.
I guess since they took hush money no one is going to come forward and say he is full of shit.
According to other articles, Denise knew. He supposedly got it years after they divorced.
I think everything makes sense now. 4 years ago was when he had his tiger blood meltdown. The condition may also explain why Denise has put up with all the mood swings and crap he’s thrown at her.
That’s about the time she lost a ton of weight. That poor woman has put up with an endless amount of sh*t from that guy, and has always taken the high road. She is made of far sterner stuff than I ever gave her credit for.
He had unprotected sex with two women who were informed beforehand that he was HIV-positive. And they agreed to it. And then they went under the care of his doctor.
Unbelievable.
I hope the sex was worth it.
I have a hard time believing that. There is not enough money in the world to make me risk my life/health like that. Who knows though.
I don’t believe that either. Those women work in porn. They wouldn’t risk their health and careers.
Yes, and I assume you are not a prostitute.
Look, there are prostitutes who risk their lives/health on a daily basis for FAR less than the millions of dollars that Sheen could have potentially paid for risky sex. I’m surprised people don’t get that. Hell, there are prostitutes who will have unprotected sex with someone just for drugs.
You have to consider that this is a wealthy celebrity who could basically pick any woman off the streets to have sex with him. Knowing that having HIV is no longer a death sentence and if faced with the potential to make millions of dollars and never have to work the streets again, I have no doubt that he could find a woman willing to take that risk. It’s not like these women are prostituting themselves because they want to, most are desperate. That does not mean that he didn’t knowingly infect people though. My hunch is that it was a mixture of both.
I agree with Kitten – prostitutes take that risk every day as they are desperate for money they will take that risk. Many men go to them purely to have unprotected sex as their partners make them use protection – there are a lot of men out there who don’t like using them. Very sad but true.
They’re called bug chasers. It’s a subculture. Look it up prepare to be disappointed.
I belive it. Gay men do it all the time, have sex without protection. many of them think they do not need to tell their sex partners that they have HIV (because they go on medicine and therefore believes that there is no risk of infecting others) And what about those idiotic women who have had sex with Charlie, wealth knowing the lifestyle he has lived.Charlie has never kept secret that he has sex with everything that moves, that included porn star, prostiuerte, Lots of drug and alcohol. Blackmailing People is never ever acceptable.
One could make the argument that even if all that were true, that he told these women, that they agreed to it, and were under the care of his doctor, that it was still a sh*t move by him. Any person who would agree to that is not in their right mind and IF the consent/doctor thing is true, he simply took advantage of likely a prostitute/pr0n type who wasn’t entirely competent to make such a decision in the first place. He acts like there’s some integrity in it, IF it’s true. Real integrity would be absolutely refusing to put anyone anywhere near that risk, regardless of their consent, especially when the consenting person is likely to be coming from a place of desperation, drug use, etc.
Obviously he took advantage. That’s sort of his MO with women, no?
Right??? That is what struck me. They agreed to have sex with an HIV positive man and saw his doctor beforehand? Even in a world of desperate women, that doesn’t seem possible. Are any women, even the most desperate prostitute, that stupid??
I watched the entire interview on TODAY. Charlie just now finished. One has to watch the entire interview before commenting, because he addressed all the issues brought up here.
Good for Charlie…it was a good interview, an honest interview. I just regained a lot of respect for someone I once thought was the scum of the earth. Here’s hoping he continues in a positive direction.
Really? Did he address, and re-gain your respect, for being abusive, in many ways, to women for *decades*?
that was the point of the interview with Matt and the slow trickle of ‘taking responsibility’. He’s hoping that he can win sympathy from some people. He’s still a prick. The most telling part – at the end of the interview he claims that he will be the savour to all people with HIV by being the person to find a cure.
His biggest concern is the damage to his self perceived ‘acting legacy’. This has nothing to do with a mea culpa. He didn’t discuss the impact of his choices and behaviour on the lives of his children long term, the damage done to others, how he has treated the mother of his children.
It’s just PR Spin Spin Spin.
Well my opinion about Sheen changed in the sense that before all of this I thought he was just a dbag but now I know that he’s an HIV positive dbag.
I don’t buy that he’s bipolar either. I don’t think he’s depressed in any way. I think he’s just truly and utterly a complete narcissist. I think he genuinely only cares about himself and no other humans. Him showing even a vague generosity towards his children is purely how it makes him look. I don’t believe for a second that he actually loves anyone. I think he is a true sociopath, completely incapable of empathy. He has severely beat women before…no remorse. ANd look how he refers to some of his previous sex partners as scum!
He isn’t deserving of any sympathy.
I was not referring to one thing in my above statement except for giving him credit for being honest for once in his life and for ditching drugs. It will be a miracle if he’s able to continue along that path, but I hope that he succeeds.
As far as the way he has treated Denise Richards, for whom I have all the respect in the world, I now find and have always found it deplorable. In no way would I ever endorse his previous scumbag lifestyle, and anyone who prefers the company of prostitutes has real issues with women.
I don’t believe him. He has old druggie written all over him. There is no way he was in his right mind enough to even assess whether or not he used a condom every single time. And that’s exactly why he hasn’t said anything until now…and he’s trying to muddy the waters for the inevitable barrage of lawsuits to follow.
Sorry,, Charlie, but focusing my disease-related sympathies today on little Hudson Vollner, age 4 months, who is undergoing chemotherapy for kidney cancer. His Patriots player dad broke the news this morning and, well, he has upstaged you in my mind. He’s cuter. His smile is sweeter. And unlike you, he didn’t become ill due to reckless activity, nor did he potentially endanger others. He’s just a tiny baby fighting to live
A 4 month old with kidney cancer, my heart breaks. I hope the treatment goes well for the little guy. No child should have to suffer through that.
Yes, the story is on the Boston Globe website, right next to the story about Sheen. The baby’s dad beat cancer himself just over a year ago. And now the little guy fights it.
Oh dear lord. Prayers being said.
Such a sad story..poor little guy 🙁
I don’t get the blackmail..telling the press you’re hiv positive would be the best press he’s had in a decade! Guaranteed positive coverage happens in Hollywood when you talk about an illness, addiction, or come out of the closet. He wouldn’t have lost jobs over this..he did lose jobs because of his erratic behavior. Sad, but sadly not surprising.
I don’t think he is “winning” anymore.
That break down of his a few years ago was the most bizarre thing I have ever witnessed in the media.
I was listening to Howard Stern this morning and Bree Olson was on. She claimed that they were having sex with lamb skin condoms (does not protect from HIV) and that he NEVER told her that he was HIV positive. If this is true then he deserves to be in prison. That’s illegal.
I was just coming on here to say the same thing.
That’s awful. If she’s being honest (and let’s face it, she is probably more likely to be honest than he is) then I hope she has some kind of action against him. If that is true, he’s displaying a level of recklessness that could really be criminal.
I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if Bree is the former woman who already hired Gloria Allred.
Lambskin condoms!?!?!?! Seriously….
Yeah I heard her interview with Howard Stern as well. I hope more woman come forward and dispute his “claim” that everyone was informed of his HIV status (which I don’t believe for ONE second). Did you catch in his Today interview where he claimed he was drinking/using drugs when he found out about his diagnosis (this would be around the time of his infamous “winning” and “tiger blood” rants). However, he was claiming to be perfectly “sober” at THAT time. Now, we find out he was lying then too. I don’t wish badly on anyone and it is sad that he contracted HIV, HOWEVER, he is a known liar, with serious mental issues and a history of abuse and violence towards several different women. He is clearly lying once again to cover his ass. And his statement about the low-life/unsavory women (aka porn actresses) that he was with was ludicrous. I think he picks those kinds of women so that when things sour, he can always point out their sorted history and try to character assassinate them as if he is some great catch LOL!! I agree that he should face criminal charges if he knowingly withheld information about his HIV status. Olson should take legal action. I think another one of his exes (Brett Rossi?) said she did not know either. And these were women who were in a “relationship” with him, whatever that means 😉
Remind me… When did Charlie and La Lohan allegedly hook up? Terrible for all the women who have had relations with him over the years.
Do you remember that Lohan was on Anger Management just a few years ago and freaked out and walked off set and had a scene rewritten because she didn’t want to kiss Sheen? Well, it seems a little clearer now why she freaked out (though her reaction seems extreme and dramatic, per usual).
It was on the set of scary movie 5. The reason she gave was he had cold sores.
@Finger Yes. Scary Movie 5. But I think this sheds new light on that freak out. Apparently they even used doubles for the kissing scene.
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2012/12/21/lindsay-lohan-charlie-sheen-scary-movie-5-kiss/
How long ago did Denise leave him? Is it possible that he found out about his status long before he says he did and that’s why she left him while she was pregnant? Just a thought.
Denise left him because he was abusive, threatened her, watched child porn of both sexes on his computer, was trolling sex sites for hookups, etc., and was an overall horrible human and husband toward her. But not because of HIV.
And, if I’m not mistaken, she was 8 months pregnant when she left him! You’ know its got to be something incredibly serious if a woman that pregnant leaves her partners.
Bree Olson is on Howard stern right now. He’s a liar.
I can’t believe I am about to defend Charlie Sheen, but maybe Bree is lying? The other “goddess” who lived with Bree and Charlie in a triad relationship in 2011 says Charlie didn’t do the things Bree is claiming. So, who to believe?
This is a crazy, sad mess.
You know, there is his story, her story and somewhere in between the truth. So take each story with a grain of salt.
I want to believe him….he was a very charismatic performer liked watching him in films etc. Just too much bad crap for so long that its crazy to believe anything he says.
I read somewhere yesterday that another reason he doing interview today was that the National Enquirer hits the stands tomorrow with a big expose on him and he wants to get ahead of that. Figures.
Live by the “sword” die by the “sword”
Honestly I think he would have had no problem keeping this a secret and paying out the money, he has been doing it for 4 years. Page 6 has an interesting tidbit on his non-disclosure he makes everyone who comes to his house sign, it is air tight and requires all matters be settled in arbitration, keeping it out of the courts.
But too much was coming out and too many people now involved that I think it hit the tipping point where he could not sustain paying everyone who knew. There was an email that leaked in the sony email hack that there was no way it could have been anyone but Charlie. Too many people now knew and it is impossible to keep that lid on.
Forget the pay for sex, I bet that Brooke M used this information to cause the sudden 180 in Charlie’s behavior towards her, I have no doubt that she would use this info to her advantage.
People have become so complacent about HIV, I came of age in the 80s were every time you turned on The Nightly News Tom Brokaw was talking about this unknown disease. My mom had to get regular blood transfusions and the fear of when it was found out that it was blood born. And waiting for them to develop a test and then waiting for the results.
Not that I want this idiot to be the face of HIV, it does send the message you are not as invincible as you think.
One of the rumors going around is that Lindsay Lohan knew about his status and that’s why he paid her tax bill as a form of “hush money”
That would make more sense than the BS those 2 were trying to sell.
it could also be him that’s continuing to fund (amongst others) her lifestyle considering she hasn’t worked in years.
That’s the moment my jaw dropped. This would explain so much. Wasn’t there a rumour, that Lindsay refused to kiss Charlie while filming Scary Movie 143 together? She could have known and been paranoid. People are despicable.
I don’t understand how he can say it is impossible that he transmitted the disease to someone else. He was diagnosed with HIV four years ago. Even if he had always been using condoms ever since (come on who are we kidding?), what about the time before? Sheen was carrying the virus before without knowing and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t always using condoms. So, really? Impossible?
And did I get it correctly that he was basically slut shaming a lot of his former sex partners? Out of all people he is slut shaming someone? The man who constantly was bragging about sleeping with prostitues? Having porn star girlfriends? At the time those women were good enough and now he calls them scum (or something like it). And bringing his kids into this by saying he wants his blackmailers to stop taking the kids money away? Again, he is the one who wanted to cut the child support for his daughters, because Denise Richards wasn’t obeying to him or whatever. He is the gift that won’t stop giving.
I would have skipped the part about the kids if I had been in his place, but I do believe the part about blackmail and hush money and I think that it is disgusting to still live in a time where you have to pay people so that they won’t disclose your medical information to the media. There are still tons of stigmas related with your HIV status, one of which is that it has to be a punition for having behaved badly, that it is your fault and somehow you deserve it. So it pisses me off because this news will likely give people living with HIV an even worst rep than they already have in many circles and they don’t deserve that. No one deserves to get HIV, even Charlie Sheen, it’s a fucking awful disease. Surely, Charlie is a grade A violent, crazy a-hole, but even he should not have to disclose his status because he’s tired of having to pay to keep ppl silent. I seriously hope that he indeed disclosed his status with anyone he “partied” with, he actually might have as being told you’re positive tends to trigger a lot of things. Besides, anyone willing to party with Charlie are having many risky behaviors and the least that should be done in that case is to behave as if someone might be positive in the first place. I’m sure his exes know and that the kids have been tested (his exe is not an example of safe behaviors either anyway), I don’t think highly of him but I think he still has enough brain cells to do that before going on national TV. What would worry me though is how all his current drug and booze use might affect his nedication, a liver can only take so much…
HIV sucks.
Slow clap. Once again Mr. Sheen, you’ve proven how you’re the perfect role model to humans everywhere on how not to act. I’m not surprised he has HIV, but are people really trying to blackmail him? Do hookers really have that much power over his public image? Considering he’s ruined his image long ago, I find it hard to believe he would succumb to a hooker trying to blackmail him. Seems there’s more to the story. He admitted to handing out ‘millions’ to what…just hookers? He stammers a lot in this interview – I I I I ha-ha-have to st-st-stop these pep-pep-people…ugh. I think that’s his way of trying to control the crazy. He does this interview clearly to cover his own ass and to set the stage for the other people involved. If they come forward, will people believe them when they say they were infected unknowingly?
Take responsible for your sexual health.1 in 8 Americans with HIV don’t know they have the virus.Get tested Know your status.Get tested with your sexual partner.There are thousands of Charlie Sheens.There are thousands of people meeting sexual partners at clubs,on apps,on college campuses,engaging in unprotected sex.Instead of focusing on this guy who you will never have contact with pay more attention to that people in your lives.Every person who has ever had sex should get tested.Even if you are married and or in a “monogamous” relationship.Anyone who has ever been on Craigslist,or apps like Grindr,Jack’d would know at least half the men on there claim they are married.Remember how many man had Ashley Madison accounts. Yes I’m focused on men because that’s who I sleep with.I know women cheat as well before someone brings that up.
Thankyou for beinging this up. My aunt is a social wotker who works directly with HIV patients in Brazil. Most of the cases they tel her is they got it from their longtime partner…
I feel sorry for his kids. But I’ve felt sorry for his kids for years. They deserve better than this.
Yes, I agree that he probably did NOT disclose this info to his partners, HOWEVER, if I am going to sleep with this “cracked out Goblin” (thank you @shambles for that gem!) don’t I have to expect some form of the STD Nasties to come my way? So if you are engaging in unprotected sex, shame on you BOTH. That is just STUPID.
sure but if he knew his HIV+ status and went on to have unprotected sex and did not disclose, then he can be criminally prosecuted.
I would guess at least a few he engaged with were already HIV positive. The industry from which he gets his girls is known to be rampant with HIV. After all, that’s how he contracted it. I do believe he is afflicted with some form of mental illness but has lucid times. I feel compassion for anyone that has to live with this diagnosis…even Charlie.
I wonder how Lindsey Lohan is taking this ?! I’m pretty sure she slept with him! And I wouldn’t doubt for a second she is one of the “former friends” who were asking for money to keep quiet!.
Not gonna lie. “So, that’s how Lohan has paid for her lifestyle” crossed my mind.
Does he really think that saying he made “dazed” decisions while in the midst of major drug and alcohol use squares with yeah, I was totally lucid and responsibly telling partners? I don’t believe that for a second. This guy is a complete POS and I think he’s probably got some level of mental pathology going on. He’s not a POS b/c he has HIV, he’s a POS b/c he’s a long-standing woman-beating misogynist abuser, very likely exposed unwitting partners to HIV, doesn’t seem to have ever really *tried* seriously to deal with his drug issues, despite having far more resources to do so than the average person, and is now playing the victim card.
He doesn’t know how many people he paid? He’d have to guess? wtf? Also, the prostitutes and pr0n types are “savory and insipid,” yet he’s had a long-standing interest in both?
Serious question. Does having migraines and night sweats reveal anything about what stage of progression an HIV positive person might be in?
There are only 3 stages. Acute Infection (this is where your body would show symptoms, most common being flu like symptoms) Clinical Latency (nearly no symptoms virus is hanging out and growing very slowly) and then AIDS .
I thought the blind was Leo b/c it said A-lister. When was the last time Charlie Sheen was A-list??
Name recognition will always make Charlie an A-Lister.
When I first read the BI, I discounted Sheen because of the a-list status. Maybe a trillion years ago… but not a-list in the past decade. Meh.
I just feel sorry for him at this point.
Tiger blood winning?
Aren’t some medications weakened by alcohol and drug use? Isn’t that something you want to deal with when you go from a high risk lifestyle and into a major health crisis?
While I agree he was irresponsible to continue being sexually active with a wide array of partners after this diagnosis, and his coming forward now is obviously because he doesn’t want to/can’t dip into the hush money coffers for much longer…. he seems genuine. And anyone employed in that industry, sleeping with Charlie Sheen, please, I’m sure they all knew about his diagnosis, and if they didn’t, they should have known to use protection with him no matter what based on his lifestyle – it’s their body and their job to keep it safe. No one forced them to have sex with Charlie Sheen.
@Mrs Darcy, although I don’t ‘condone’ his actions, the women (and men, who knows) had a part in this too, their bodies, their decisions. And it is a rather well-known fact that a lot of men and women in the porn industry are HIV+.
Okay – he “magically” took all of his meds and hasn’t missed a dose. I guess hishis wonderful fairy meds godmother must have flown down each not night.
Just read a documentation about a clinical trial. Can hit back later with attribution. Non-complainance with meds was nine times more likely with problem drinkers and increased by 20% with each drink. This significantly decrease life span. My brain is a little froggy if my writing lacks coherence.
This is a guy who has fired, alienated and driven away everyone who could have helped him to make sure his scripts are up-to-date and filed; takes them daily, on timetime. He’s probably gone through personal assistants like Kleenix (sorry, couldn’t resist). Yeah, I totally believe him & all of his bs about his meds vigilance, disclosure & safe sex practices. Not so much.
I bet he was forced out by a flurry of lawsuits & disclosures by his sex partners. He is in full CYA spin. He is a reprehensible, toxic human being and deserves whatever fates awaits him here & in the afterlife.
I was a hotline counselor with an HIV/AIDS organization for a few years right after Magic Johnson came out. I have a tremendous amount if compassion for folks with HIV/AIDS. Not him. What Sheen did is criminal. People are in prison for actions like his. Some people he transmitted the virus are much more vulnerable for a variety of factors. He has given them a death sentence.
Spike, I agree with you. Charlie Sheen has endangered many lives with his recklessness. Where is the Los Angeles District Attorney? I want to see some kind of charges made by the state. Multiply the potential number of unknowing victims who had sex with the people Charlie Sheen had sex with. Let’s see if there is 2 different types of justice in the legal system. One for us “regular” people, and a separate one for “celebrities”.
He’s been such a mess the past number of years that there’s no way he practiced safe sex and I doubt he disclosed his HIV status to partners in his drug fueled days.
He wants to make it a he said/she said thing IMO.
I’ve expressed my empathy & compassion, now I’m going to express my disgust: why would anyone other than a fellow cracked out mess sleep with Charlie Sheen? Not even to pay off my student loans.
I can’t be the only one who thinks this sh!tbag is a one-man walking health crisis timebomb, can I?
HIV already mutates with each transmission to a new host, by virtue of the fact that it uses host genetic material to replicate itself. Then you add in the mutability factor of not adhering to a proper medication regimen…
There is a good reason we are all advised not to drink alcohol when on antibiotics, for example, and for the most part, it is not because of adverse reactions. In fact, it’s because doctors don’t want us to skip doses, because they know that repeated skipping of doses can, over time, confer DRUG RESISTANCE. HIV can operate in much the same way.
Currently, the newer treatments are in the pipeline but not in full clinical trials yet, meaning no access even for compassionate use. If someone like Charlie Sheen continues to drink, forgets his meds, and ends up with some superstrain (think it’s not possible? See: gonorrhea), he WILL behave in such a manner that it WILL get into the general population. And it’ll be 1985 all over again.
i think there is someone he did not inform prior to unprotected sex that has threatened to go hard after him for transmitting HIV. this media blitz is just his way of getting his side of the story out first.
Yesterday I had no sympathy for this guy. If what he says is true though, I do feel kinda bad and I do not think anyone deserves HIV. But everyone should know that if you act a certain way, you expose yourself to the potential of getting sick.
It’s hard to tell with all celebrities whose lying or not. I won’t assume anything. But I hope he has a conscience and really takes responsibility.
I mean, come on…. anyone who chooses to get in bed with Charlie Sheen must know there is a risk of walking away with a disease. The man is notorious for his philandering and drug abuse. In no way am I saying that these woman deserve HIV or that he shouldn’t have to disclose this information before being intimate with anyone. However, I am saying that these woman should be more protective of their bodies and health. Use your brains people!
Let me be clear, I don’t say this lightly, but Charlie Sheen is human garbage. A fact which he has proven time and time again over the years.
I can’t feel sympathy for a person like that – I only feel sorry for all the misguided, cracked out, sick girls he took advantage of.
Why does he still get a platform? He should be shunned just like that misogynist, antisemitic pig Mel Gibson.
Many comments are referencing women who may have been exposed, but would it be surprising if he had male partners?
Some people are saying that he used male prostitutes as well. That’s not entirely unusual for a hardcore sex addict…
According to another site, six women are preparing lawsuits against him. None are positive, but suing for “emotional distress.” It’s been long rumored Charlie likes trans women, so I think the list will grow to include both genders.
Wow he is not aging well. All that hard living makes him look older than he really is. Not surprised he contracted HIV. He’s been on a bender for years now. I feel sorry for his kids.
Lost the comment now but someone said he was only doing it to avoid having to pay people to shut up anymore. Bingo.
Anyone who consorts with the number of pr0n stars, intravenous drug users and general low-lifes that he has, especially without the use of condoms, is a ticking time bomb for spreading disease to the rest of society.
He gets no sympathy from me, and his disingenuous claim that he’s now HIV-free is yet another lie from someone who couldn’t tell the truth if he had a gun pointed to his head.
This is a man who maliciously set out to ruin his ex-wife who has been nothing but a saint, who petitioned to have support payments reduced, who kicked her and his children out of their house, but seems to have loads of money to spend on hookers, drugs, booze and relentless excess. Now he’s spending a fortune paying off those very low-lifes who inflicted HIV on him.
Charlie Sheen is a menace to society and if he were reading this, all I would say to him is “What goes around comes around, and you get back what you give in this universe.” I think the worst of his problems has just begun.
Who would agree to sleep with him unprotected especially knowing his HIV? I wonder if he is lying about that. I’m sure he has exposed someone who didn’t know because he doesn’t care. It’s all about what he wants. He is the biggest piece of trash in Hollywood.
I’ve never liked him. I hate the fact that his face is everywhere today. Why would anyone feel sorry for him? He did this to himself by being reckless and God knows how many women he infected.
One positive that has come out of this is that it has put HIV back in the headlines. I work in a not for profit community health centre and HIV is on the rise again and a lot of younger people aren’t as vigilant about protecting themselves from HIV as previous generations were. Last year I even had a woman in her late twenties, who had been injecting drugs for years, ask me how HIV was transmitted. So yeah, I think with Charlie putting HIV back in the headlines and World AIDS Day coming up on December the 1st this is a great opportunity to raise awareness and get people’s health literacy back up to where it needs to be.
Regarding the people who had sex with Charlie without a condom, there’s a drug called PrEP: Pre Exposure Prophylaxis, that can be taken before being exposed to HIV and it reduces your chances of contracting HIV, so maybe that’s what they used, but a condom is better. Also, if you fear that you may have been exposed to HIV, eg the condom broke or whatever, you can take a course of medication called PEP : Post Exposure Prophylaxis . But you need to speak with your health care professional and commence treatment within in 72 hours of exposure. But even though PEP is effective it doesn’t always work, so it should only be considered as a last resort and not as substitute for practicing safe sex.
Thank you in for the information, @MND.
You’re welcome.
Why would anyone take that kind of chance and have sex with an HIV+ individual?
Don’t know but they do. I’ve heard of people taking PrEP because they intend to go out and have unprotected sex.
The fact that AIDS is now treatable has lulled people into a dangerous false sense of security. Oh, and Tinder and other hookup aps? Associated with increased transmission/frequency of HIV. When you partner with someone, you are trusting them with your LIFE in so many ways, not just in terms of exposures. You should get to know them. I worry the idea of random sex comes from fear of intimacy. Being close to someone is messy and sometimes difficult and takes effort, not like in the movie fairytales.
this story is sad all around. only thing i’ll add is remember he’s a drug addict. he’s not rational or alert. that said, hope everyone is informed and knows the truth and its out and pray for the kids. i’d believe he’s seeking self destruction. all his actions signal to me someone who’s looking to not be around much longer. he’s very unhappy and was very reckless but the people bribing him, gross. his doctor was on with legal proof he’s not with AIDS. he’s said he’s told his wives, and tested his kids. and as guilty as charlie is, and he’s a pos most days, anyone who was sleeping with him and sleeping with him unprotected whether you knew or not, was playing russian roulette and looking to extort money. there’s no other reason to hang out with Charlie.
I came along blind item about him being HIV positive 2 years ago….
Until his public meltdown few years ago I only knew him as funny guy form 2 and a halfen or Topper Harley – his wild boy reputation was always hanging about him…But …..
There were rumors actually lots of them on various forums that CS likes man and women and that Corey Heim gossip came up numerous times…..when CS mentioned
He sounds articulate but I think there’s a lot of stuff he’s not being upfront about. Just my impression. And check out Bree Olson talking about him hiding it from her. http://www.justjared.com/2015/11/17/charlie-sheens-ex-bree-olson-claims-he-never-told-her-about-his-hiv/
That articulateness, how he speaks & especially writes, is a complete giveaway of a lying liar who lies…by carefully manipulating the truth, saying a lot but not saying anything, using words that lead people to think he meant something when he didn’t specifically say it.
It’s practically triggering, from my experience with charming addicts. His self-righteous narcissism is disgusting, he is unrepentant and cares nothing for anyone else. And yet, there are still people who are all “Go Charlie”…because he is so good with words. SMH.
I think most people know he’s not being 100% upfront but feel sorry for him because he is indeed quite good at stating his case but also because he’s definitely a sick man, physically and mentally.
And obviously he’s only going public now, with a very well prepared statement, because the house of cards is coming down. Lucky for him he’s loaded, for now anyway.
Martin Sheen gave an interview back in May and mentioned his son referring back to his meltdown during Two and a Half Men and the time after.
“Martin Sheen has opened up about the pain of watching his son go through a public meltdown and being ‘powerless’ to help him
In an interview with Radio Times magazine, the 74-year-old said Charlie was ‘a very lonely man in a very desperate situation’.
‘What he was going through at that time, we were powerless to do much. Except to pray for him and lift him up,’ he said,
‘You try to be as present as possible. But you have to be aware of the circumstances. You have to be aware of many things that the public is not aware of. And you’re right: this is a very lonely man. In a very desperate situation.’
in 2013 interview with Katie Couric, 49-year-old Charlie blamed his erratic behavior on ‘too much testosterone cream’ which metabolised into a steroid, which his dad in part appeared to confirm.
‘Only those of us that knew him understood what was going on,’ he said. ‘I’m talking about steroids, at that time. He was in a very desperate situation. And he was doing what he felt would get him out of it – going public. And it was very painful. No less painful for him.’
“The elder Sheen, who is an recovering alcoholic now sober for 30 years, said that while he obviously cared very much for his youngest son, he was powerless to help him.
‘I wouldn’t be human if I didn’t have very, very deep feeling for him. And there’s something that I understand about that, something the programme [Alcoholics Anonymous] has taught me that’s vital in trying to help someone – you can assure them you’re there and you love them, but you cannot effect change,’ he said.
‘That’s your ego, for the most part. You pray for a moment of clarity, you trust in a higher power and you never, ever give up hope. Because that is a measure of despair.’ ”
Steroid? That’s the first I’ve heard of that.
I watched a very brief clip of Charlie’s interview, and he mentioned ” ‘roid rage” as a reason for some of his past behavior. I couldn’t figure out what he meant by that, but Martin’s comments may fill in the blanks.
Have safe sex. That’s all I’m going to say.
The moral of the story is: Do not fuck with Charlie Sheen.
What an unmitigated pig and a wastrel!
Good to see karma get the *****. I still have no empathy for him.
Just read on TMZ that Greg Louganis thinks Charlie Sheens confession could save lifes. He says Sheen doesn’t fit the stereotype of an HIV positive person and that this might shed a light on a topic people are afraid to discuss.
Why wouldn’t he fit the stereotype? Because he is not gay? Do people still think HIV is something that only concerns the gay community?
If there is something like a stereotypical HIV+ person it is Charlie Sheen: highly risk live style. Doing drugs and lots of sex partners (often unprotected).
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.