Kylie Jenner covers the new issue of Glamour UK, and I kind of enjoy that magazines are consistently trying out the “makeunder” style with Kylie. In real life, in selfies, on social media, Kylie is very “done.” She’s always wearing a mountain of makeup, wigs, etc. But magazines are trying to get her to go for a more natural look. Those lips though… they are a tragedy. Anyway, Kylie chats with Glamour UK about feminism, money and social media. Some highlights:
Whether she identifies as a feminist: “I mean, of course I do, but I don’t think I stand up in public that way a lot. Not that I don’t feel things in my personal life, but yes: I do consider myself a feminist. I’m a young woman, for one thing, and I don’t depend on a man or anybody else. I make my own money and start my own businesses, and I feel like I’m an inspiration for a lot of young girls who want to stand on their own.”
She makes her own money: “I haven’t had a dollar of my mum’s money for five years. Ever since I started earning my own money, I’ve paid for everything: all my cars, houses, clothes, everything. I like to know exactly what’s going on and I’m actually quite careful with what I spend. We all are as a family.”
Her social media prowess: “I only show people what I want them to see. And in time, I think I’ll just slowly start moving behind the scenes. [Keeping Up With The Kardashians] has to end eventually, and I’m not going to leave until we’re done with it, but by 20 I want to have the whole of my cosmetics line out because that’s my primary focus. I definitely won’t want to be doing anything else that would make me more public.”
“I mean, of course I do, but I don’t think I stand up in public that way a lot. Not that I don’t feel things in my personal life, but yes: I do consider myself a feminist.” Do you have a problem with this? I honestly do not. I think she’s confused a bit, but it’s not terrible. She thinks that if she declares herself a feminist, that means people are going to expect her to “stand up” and fight for feminist causes all day, every day. And no one expects that from Kylie (or any feminist).
PS… People Magazine had an interesting piece about whether Kylie will attend her first Met Gala this year. Considering Anna Wintour sort of approves of Kylie and Kendall, I bet they will attend this year. It will be Kylie’s first time.
Photos courtesy of Glamour UK.
well she is trying, right? You cant hate her for this.
I thought she was stating that the public might not view her as a feminist, but she does. Her answer sounded fine to me.
Sometimes it sounds like she wants out of that family, but hasn’t fully articulated it yet.
It does sound like that. Sounds like she wants to be out of the limelight and actually focus on creating a legitimate business….so unlike her big sis Kim. Hopefully she can do it.
Being Kylie, I think she was OK, less stupid than many celebrities out there.
Yes, even Kendall seemed to want to get out a while back, but they must have reached an agreement to do it until it was done. And the end isn’t here yet. Why didn’t that show end yet??????
Yeah…can’t hate on her for her answer.
She looks so much prettier without a gallon of makeup on. She actually looks 18 in these pics, instead of 30.
She’s sounded like that for a while, profoundly unhappy with the whole family fame thing.
But then she continues to play into it, so I don’t get it. If she’s really had her own money for 5 years, she could have easily pursued other things.
Yeah I found it refreshing that as a young female in the spotlight she didn’t deny being a feminist as if people are going to label her a bra burner or like it is a dirty word like some of them do -_-
And yeah I agree, she has also mentioned a few times how she had had to provide/pay for herself for quite some time. Considering 5 years ago she was 13, wouldn’t be surprised if once she started bringing in the $$ her mom started charging her
I disagree. She’s a lot confused to me. She thinks just because she doesn’t depend on anyone that makes her a feminist. Not really. And for the past 5 years (until she bought the house), she did use some of Mama’s money because she was living at home and was not paying for food, water, heating, cooling, etc. Many young girls pay for their own clothes, cars, etc.
Just out of general curiosity, what DOES make a feminist (besides the general belief in equality)?
If she feels she’s a feminist, I don’t see anything wrong in her stating or believing that. (Though maybe she annoys me less than Kim, and that’s why I’m not really parsing her words too much).
Going on this (and maybe there is more to it) bit in the article, no where does she state anything about equality. All she states is that she doesn’t depend on anyone. Feminism is more than just being independently wealthy and not depending on anyone. Just my opinion.
well if she feels empowered by her ability to be indepent, what´s wrong with that? Of course feminism is more than that, but I think at least she is trying to embrace the term, not “oh but i love guys, i cant be a feminist “. I mean, considering her lack of education and the family she comes from…
I feel empowered by my ability to be independent also but that alone does not make me a feminist. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just my opinion that is the reason why she says she’s a feminist.
Being a feminist, quite simply, is believing that men and women are equal and should not be treated differently based on gender. Neither sex is inferior to the other on any level. Neither is superior.
The meaning has gotten convoluted and twisted up with how individual people express this belief. Some are outspoken activists for women’s rights. Others, like Kylie, view their independence as equality because for a long time an independent woman was a rarity. Me, I try to treat everyone I meet with equal respect, not promote unfair stereotypes and expectations, and attempt to educate others when I see sexism at work. I’m sure there are many other ways to put the belief into practice, but feminism itself is simply the belief that the sexes are equal.
“Going on this (and maybe there is more to it) bit in the article, no where does she state anything about equality. All she states is that she doesn’t depend on anyone. Feminism is more than just being independently wealthy and not depending on anyone. Just my opinion.”
I didn’t say she stated the principle of equality. I just mentioned that in brackets because that’s the standard dictionary definition people rarely disagree about and is also the definition that doesn’t result in many arguments between people.
What I got from her statement, at least implicitly, is that she is able to do things that feminists paved the way for her do, and therefore identifies as a feminist because of that. I didn’t get the impression that she was trying to state what feminism is or isn’t, and I’ve never really thought you had to state the dictionary definition to actually IDENTIFY as a feminist. What I got from her statement is that in the end she has no qualms about identifying as a feminist. Since it’s an identity that’s fairly open to anyone (even guys, I think), I guess I don’t see how anyone could say she isn’t a feminist, imo. I can see how someone might say that Kim Kardashian, for instance, fails to live up to certain feminist ideals, but I’m a little baffled as how anyone can say someone like Kylie couldn’t identify as a feminist.
My whole point it she NEVER says she believes men and women are equal. I never said she couldn’t identify as a feminist. I give, it’s my opinion and we will have to agree to disagree.
She’s 18 and not the most articulate person, swak. Maybe she doesn’t know what a feminist means yet or that is what she believes being a feminist means.
I know that I’ve evolved since 18… maybe you haven’t because you were ahead of the curve at 18.. I don’t know. I just don’t pick apart everything a young girl might say.
yes totally agree with you, and i think that considering her background (lack of education and that family) it’s great that she considers herself a feminist, i mean she still has got to learn more, but baby steps, amirite?
Feminist – a person who believes in the social, political and economic quality of the sexes.
That’s the problem with the word. It really does just mean equal rights and opportunities but different people add all sorts of other things to it (both in a negative and a positive way) so it’s actually a pointless question today (because of its ambiguity, not because we have a truly equal society) and I don’t know why they keep asking it of everybody they interview. What kind of answer are they looking for? Are they waiting to hear someone say “I don’t believe women and men should have equal rights and opportunities”?
Obviously a lot of Interviewees are confused about the word and its history – Kylie thinks feminist means she doesn’t “depend on a man”, which it doesn’t really. But do the interviewers even have a clue about how odd the question is? Much better to ask very specific questions about rights and opportunities that are relevant to the interviewee. Then you can get interesting answers.
I’m waiting for someone to throw the question back at the interviewer as meaningless and ask for a better, more targeted question. They’ve reduced an historical word with clear meaning back in the day when it was first used to just a fuzzy wuzzy buzzword aimed at creating non-existent controversy because so few people know what it really means.
Not to defend her, but we have no way of knowing if she was or was not contributing to household expenses. I had to move in with my parents for a couple of months after graduation. We sat down and figured out what would be an appropriate cut of rent, food, cable, Internet, etc. for me to pay, and I handed them a check each month. I know plenty of people who did the same. Maybe she did too.
Can we hide her makeup? She looks so much better with less sh*t on.
Totally! She is young and has a beautiful skin, and she should embrace those freckles. Her answer about feminism does sound confused.
Wish I had seen your comment before I posted the same above. What a difference, huh? She doesn’t need all that crap on her face.
Not even 1 ‘like’ in sight, clearly someone filtered her interview and made it better.
Not in 1 million years is Kylie able to speak like that.
Maybe I don’t understand the word Feminism.. Because to me it is not necessary to ask someone if they are a feminist. You can see it by the way they live their lives. It is not about marching in protest or burning you bra. It is how you move in this world as a woman.
I’m a feminist; not because I say I am.. I live my life as one.
This is just a new thing that the media does now: ask everyone if they’re a feminist. You understand the word just fine, for regular people.
She has destroyed her nose and now has rubber lips.
Her lips are a tragedy. In a few short years she’s going to look like Lisa Rinna or Madame Puppet.
She’s like a caricature with those lips.
She comes from a privileged background. Would she have the career she has without the Kardashian fame? Doubtful.
She does not value education as she has never had the need for it.
I recognize that she was born into this lifestyle and had no control over that but struggles in life do give one a different perspective about the world at large. Feminism is more than money but in this family, money is the barometer by which everything is judged.
I hate that everyone gets this question in interviews. It’s just so trite.
Come on Kylie. She says she’s very careful what she posts on ig…lol. She further has stated she doesn’t like to dress sexy……okay then why are your shorts two inches shorter than my grannies drawers. It’s easy to say you’ve made your own money, bought your own houses and cars, plural, when you come from a wealthy family. I hope the girls in the real world don’t buy into her clouded thinking.
18…years…old.
Idk how much of a role model she is unless you’re applauding her ability to pick the lowest-hanging fruit. Sure, she’s getting things done….now. But those opportunities were created for her. SO much of where we end up in life depends on our capacity to capitalize on opportunities. I don’t want to say our “ability” to do so because that makes it seem like one person who does more with an opportunity than another simply has more ability. I don’t believe that. I think you can often have a lot of ability but be in circumstances that reduce your capacity to make the most of an opportunity. These things are never fully in our control.
All this to say, Kylie had a lot of people giving her optimal circumstances and maximizing her capacity long before she ever exercised it. Can’t say I’m going to go out of my way to applaud someone for fulfilling very basic expectations about what one should do when one is given a great deal in life. Yay to her for not becoming a trophy wife, I guess? Because that’s where she’d be without the people who created opportunities for her, since she hasn’t made the choices that would get her to where she is otherwise–like getting an education.
I like her. I like her in spite of myself. Sure she’s quite shallow and vapid but could you really expect anything but from someone who grew up around Kim and co.? I hope she does get out, focuses on her business, dumps that creepy pervy dude she’s with and does well.
She’s just a kid. That’s all I ever garner when she speaks. She’s a child playing grown up. Yes, it’s nice to not have to ask people for money, and yea it’s nice to have the means to “work” without an obvious skill set. But that doesn’t really make her a feminist, it just makes her financially independent. Her relationship with Tyga doesn’t scream “feminist” nor does the relationship she has with her face and body and sexuality.
Thank you! Said the same thing above.
One screwed up 18 year old… She is a mess. Literally! Sad day when she realizes money can’t and won’t buy you everything.
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STHU Kylie…. Talk about feminism once you know what “come here, from sic’em” means.
She looks infinitely better w/out all the warpaint. The lips, though…. OUCH….
Here is what she is really saying in regard to the label of Feminist. Define what Feminism “really” means all you like, in the generation coming up right now Feminist equates to frothing-at-the-mouth self delusional crazies who do not realize more than half of what they say is in fact horribly discriminatory, just in their favor this time. Kylie is displaying this growing trend. She herself may not understand why people feel that way and is not interested enough to get that information, but she simply knows nowadays to be young, hot, and universally popular you cannot be associated with Feminism.
Kylie may be confused, but she has no trouble being called a feminist. I don’t see anything in the Kardashian Klan and its Jenner branch that indicates any of them have trouble being identified as feminist or that any of them don’t believe in full equality for women and men. So they’re okay on this particular point whatever they think the word means beyond that.
I cannot get over how much prettier she is not all done up!!!
If she stops stealing other people’s makeup ideas and using their graphics, perhaps she’ll get what she wants out of her makeup company.
I’ll believe Kylie is serious about running her own business when she enrolls in a few business courses. She can’t depend on casual conversations with her demon mother to teach her about real business. She needs a more thorough understanding of it and to develop some practical skills if she really wants to be in charge rather than just doing what her mother says. Her mom is great at exploiting opportunities and manipulation but obviously has huge gaps in her own understanding of how successful businesses are run. The K Klan is infamous for putting their names and faces on products that fail big time. They don’t even bother promoting their own products in any reasonable way. So their idea of being a business person is very odd and limited even though they all seem to think that’s what they are regardless. The only one who comes anywhere close to a valid claim on the term is Demon Mother, and she’s a lucky amateur.
Poor thing that’s really what being uneducated sounds like. I know 18 year olds who are going to college and actually know what feminism and business is really about. What a waste of a human. Nice lips though haha!!
She is the saddest Kardashian of them all. Absolutely none of Kris Jenner’s daughters are actual business women. They have a team of creative people/business advisors doing all the real work. Slapping your name on crappy products produced/manufactured in third world countries does NOT make you business women. They have absolutely no talent other than being NBA party favors.