This might be my new favorite magazine cover. Donald Trump: The Meltdown. And you know that this is what greets Trump on his pillowcase every morning. It’s like the Shroud of Turin, only for Cheeto-dusted fascists. Time Magazine devoted their new issue to Trump’s rather spectacular meltdown. The cover story features quotes from everybody, from Trump to Hillary Clinton’s campaign people, to unnamed sources within the Republican National Committee, to angry GOP senators worried about the down-ticket and more. Time also did a transcript of their sit-down with Trump – go here to read. When you see Trump’s words in clear black and white, it’s always worse. You see that Trump is a terrible communicator. You see that he knows so few words. You see that he simply doesn’t understand what’s going on. Some highlights:
He’s not going to become nicer: “I am now listening to people that are telling me to be easier, nicer, be softer. And you know, that’s O.K., and I’m doing that. Personally, I don’t know if that’s what the country wants.”
Whether he’ll do the debates: “Well, I haven’t seen the conditions, I’ll be seeing the conditions this afternoon or tomorrow, so I’ll let you know then. But I want a debate very badly….Who would be the moderators? I’ll have to see who the moderators are. I would say that certain moderators would be unacceptable, absolutely. By the way, I will absolutely do three debates. I did very well in the debates on the primaries. So I look forward to the debates. I will demand fair moderators. I think the moderator has to be impartial and there’s some people that aren’t.
Why does Trump think he’s polling poorly? “All I can do is tell the truth. If that does it, that’s great. And if that doesn’t do it, that’s fine too.”
What one senior Clinton advisor says: “On other campaigns, we would have to scrounge for crumbs. Here, it’s a fire hose. He can set himself on fire at breakfast, kill a nun at lunch and waterboard a puppy in the afternoon. And that doesn’t even get us to prime time.”
What GOP mega-donor Art Pope says: “I don’t think we’ve seen anything like this since George Wallace… My concern is Donald Trump will depress the Republican vote and hurt down-ballot candidates. We’re going to lose races because of him. I just hope it’s not all lost.”
Trump’s staffers don’t get it either: Like the rest of the party, Trump’s staff has been flummoxed by his political naiveté. They describe a candidate who doesn’t understand the basics of modern campaigns, from why you knock on doors to how to read a poll to why he should be dialing for dollars more aggressively. His headquarters has enough palace intrigue and warring fiefs to rival the fictional badlands of Westeros. “You’re always afraid of getting fired,” says one staffer, “but it’s his fault, not ours.”
Trump staffers worry that they’re ruining their careers: “If someone applied for a job and brought in a résumé that had Trump 2016 on it,” says a GOP fundraising consultant, “I wouldn’t give them an interview.”
He doesn’t trust polls: “I actually think we’re doing better. I may be wrong, but I think we’re doing much better than anybody understands.”
You know when someone evokes George Wallace, sh-t just got real. There is something Wallace-esque about Trump, although to be fair… Wallace actually got elected to public office several times before he ever ran for president. Wallace knew the basics of how to campaign, how to run a campaign, and how to stay on message. Trump doesn’t even know how to do any of that.
Also, just in the past 24 hours, Donald Trump has called Pres. Obama “the founder of ISIS,” gotten the unwavering support of creepy intern-harasser Mark Foley, refused to discuss the widespread reports of his donations to NAMBLA and maybe/probably got a warning from the Secret Service about making assassination threats against Hillary Clinton. And that’s just scratching the surface. Of the past 24 hours.
Photos courtesy of Time Magazine, Fame/Flynet.
And yet I still don’t feel assured of a Trump loss in November. And that is the scariest thing of all.
There are registered voters who believe every word he says, who support all of his actions and bizarre statements. And they are going to vote. Even if the RNC found a way to remove him from the ticket, those voters would write him in in massive numbers.
Word. I’m so freaked out.
Me too – the number of people I know who believe his crap….. scared for November – please vote!
People that support him freak me out too. I’m freaked out anybody would support him, let alone en masse. However, there are still so many more of us than there are of them. I have faith our numbers are so much higher, it will unparallel any previous election. Faith don’t fail me now!
As long as we get out and vote this mad man won’t get elected. But we have to get out and vote and take nothing for granted. Ignore what the polls say and go vote!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Bernie supporters, please listen to Bernie and do as he asks. Get out there and vote for Hillary. Don’t sit home taking a stand. Don’t write him in. Don’t vote Green to try to force the Dems to change their ways, because that won’t make them change. Vote Hillary or Trump will win.
I too know plenty of people who will vote for him because a) they only vote Republican and b) don’t want Clinton in office. Everyone needs to get out and vote in November to keep this dangerous man from being voted in.
People voting for him are sort of crazy. Had a co-worker slammed a door and refused to talk to me for days when they found I wasn’t voting for Trump. They are crazy fr him. They aren’t voting for the Republicans they are voting for HIM> He is a God to them and that should scare people to the poles. I’m not a person that votes out of fear but this year, I admit I’m definitely voting out of the fear of him and his followers. I will drag my half-dead body to the polls this fall and pray the rest of anti-Trump voters will do the same.
People voting for him are sort of crazy. Had a co-worker slammed a door and refused to talk to me for days when they found I wasn’t voting for Trump. They are crazy fr him. They aren’t voting for the Republicans they are voting for HIM> He is a God to them and that should scare people to the poles. I’m not a person that votes out of fear but this year, I admit I’m definitely voting out of the fear of him and his followers. I will drag my half-dead body to the polls this fall and pray the rest of anti-Trump voters will do the same.
We have early voting where I live. And I plan to make full us of full use of it, as I did back in 2008, fearing some kind of accident would render me unable to get to the polls on Election Day. That was my paranoia. And on my walk home that warm October day, I almost got hit by a driver on his cell phone.
His craziness is our best hope. He can’t control himself. Every day brings new shocks as he spews out conspiracy theories and makes absurd claims. Today he brought out the Secretary of State of Kansas to counter the concerns of all of those national security leaders. Not to disparage Kansas, but I think I’ll listen to career security analysts.
Kansan here. Feel free to disparage Kobach to your heart’s content.
The thought that the anti-democratic, racist/sexist/free state destroying toxin that is Kris Kobach could pander enough to grab a cabinet position in a Donald administration is absolutely horrifying.
Trump alone is not the only problem. The things that will be crawling out to gain federal power in his wake should scare the hell out of us all.
sigh… secretary of state, at the state level, is not even the same effin thing as at the federal. At least here in PA their role is more administrative/elections-related
Kris Kobach is the worst. I don’t live in Kansas but I’ve read about him and his fight against voting rights among other things, horrible. And what does he know about national security!?!?
Yes. He thinks he’s doing better than the polls say because all along he has done better than predicted. In Florida and other states, he is not that far behind, especially considering the stuff he’s been saying. How much of that is people not telling the truth about who they will vote for?
Racism and xenophobia are so deeply ingrained in certain segments of the population that they will always choose to hurt the people they see as beneath them (even if their destruction is also assured). The idea of the US being annihilated by nuclear weapons is A-OK to these people as long as brown people get killed first.
And let’s not rule out the misogynists who won’t vote for a woman president!
Yup. I remember the apathy when Dole ran against Bill. I worked in a heavily right-wing, sexist office. Most of the guys didn’t like Dole, so they openly said they would not bother, even knowing it would put Clinton in for another 4 years.
This time, I doubt it will be the same. Even if they hate him, they will vote for just to keep “her” out.
Being from Savannah, GA and hearing these dingbats scares the hell out of me. I want kids, but not in a Trump country, shoot I may not get married next October here! This is one of the only sound websites, all the others, the commenters scare me.
I like to get my news from all sources (left and right) and one of the conservative sites I visit (a sane, logical one) gets pummeled by their readers every time they post a poll showing Hillary winning in an electoral landslide. Trumps fanatical followers believe there is a “silent majority” that will rise up on election day and give Trump a landslide victory.
I believe Hillary will win, but I’m not entirely sure it will be a blowout. For the first time, I’m not seeing political yard signs for either presidential candidate anywhere. No Trump signs. No Clinton signs. Nothing.
Trump’s fans will tell you no one will openly admit to supporting him, but in the secrecy of the voting booth, they’re going to be pushing the button for Trump. My husband is up to his neck in politics and thinks the election will be closer than the polls are currently showing, but that ultimately, Hillary will win.
I hope he’s right, because Trump is unfit for the office.
Interesting Sherri. Now that you mention it, I am not seeing posters for Trump or Hillary in my area either.
Reminds me of brexit.
The result might pretty well surprise you… and not in favor of popular belief. As a non-american moslem this also scares the wit out of me.
I have had that exact same thought. There is not a “Trump” or “Clinton” sign to be seen around here. What true evidence of the negative environment this year. No one is happy about any of it.
You are right, Sherry!
I’ve seen one yard sign (long gone since the primaries, actually) and one highly decorated car for Trump in my neighborhood. And lots of Hillary bumper stickers/car magnets but no yard signs. In 2012 there were a fair number of Romney signs so it’s hard to know who those people are secretly supporting now.
Yard sign thoughts (yard signs are everything in Canadian elections):
1. Wait till after Labour Day.
2. People are afraid either way.
#2 would be so sad.
We had a yard sign out once (in Canada) and someone stole it. So we got a bigger one from the campaign and put it out.
The Conservative party here seemed to have more signs standing on public property, which is not supposed to happen. Then they leave them there after the election more, when they’re supposed to take them away.
It’s not a bumper-sticker country or button place so yard signs are it!
I suspect people are worried about vandals. Years ago, somebody came into my catproof-fenced yard and put a big Mike Pence for Congress sticker on my lamppost. Freaked me out a bit. The idea that somebody came through the gate to do that, I mean. I already was freaked out by Pence. Anyway, I would never put a sign up for Hillary in this climate. Somebody might do more than vandalize or steal the sign. I would worry about the safety of my cats in the yard as well as my own safety. I used to just worry about stray dogs ….
I see Trump yard signs EVERYWHERE in PA where I live. I only see Hillary bumper stickers in Philly, and NYC. People have Trump flags hanging from their houses here, too. It is terrifying.
I live in an affluent, mostly white county in NJ. There are Trump bumper stickers and signs on lawns all over. Neighbors on Facebook supporting him. People talking and supporting him in conversations over dinner at restaurants (as I sneakily listen in disbelief). These are upper middle class to super rich, highly educated people. It scares me to death.
This reminds me of Brexit too!! I’m American and the first thing I thought of when brexit happened was that we are hurdling uncontrollably toward the same nightmare in America! There are so many people that were sick of the old buddy politicians they are literally opting for a dangerous, (to steal from Kaiser) dirty tampon in an orange wig. UGGG!! 🙁
I’m very worried!!!!!!!
I haven’t seen any either, not like I did in 2008. But I should share that on my morning run, I noticed one yard still carrying a “Bernie 2016” in the flowerbed. lol.
Lots of Bernie signs here and a handful of Trump over on the Central Coast of California. Not one Hillary sign that I’ve seen.
Agreed. One poll yesterday had him at 44% with Clinton at 50% – that’s after all of the BS of the week. How is he still polling that high??? Plus there are groups of people who will vote for him not even captured on polls. I really can barely look at my fellow citizens at this point.
I’ve said it before #TrumpIsNotMyAmerica
You’d have to check on the source of the poll. Not all pollsters are equal. Some are impartial but many work for campaigns and introduce more of a bias. Also, Internet polls are riddled with sampling bias.
electoral-vote dot com does a good job explaining all this
It may be mentioned further down the thread but Patti Reagan has absolutely slammed Trump for his implied threat against Hillary. If the daughter of a Republican icon doesn’t make them think then nothing will. But I think / hope he is alienating a lot of the more moderate Republicans with this cr@ap.
Patti’s letter was good, but I’m not sure Trumpeteers can hear women’s voices.
My parents are voting trump. My dad is one of the 1% of BLACK voters supporting trump. All I can say is people are underestimating how misguided prolife voters are. To me it is unspeakably foolish and hypocritical but this is one way people who should otherwise know better have justified supporting an insane person and horrible person.
But WHY would a prolifer vote for Trump??? He’s barely a Christian (if at all), has kids from half a dozen different women, I would bet that he has coerced a woman or two to get an abortion in his lifetime.
How is he a good vote if you want pro-life?
My mom is a die hard Trump supporter. Yard sign, bumper stickers, donates to his campaign etc. I don’t talk about politics with her anymore because we will fight and I will get upset, once she starts talking about it, I tune her out and nod my head. I saw someone ask her on fb what would Trump have to do for her to stop supporting him. She said there was nothing he could do that was worse than what that evil, corrupt, liar Killary Clinton has already done. She has killed people and deleted thousands of emails, Trump isn’t PC- huge difference. So this is what you are dealing with. My mom told another relative that I live to do controversial things like “buy black baby dolls for my kids and vote for Clinton.” That is a Trump supporter folks, it hurts my heart and I have to tune it out as much as possible and remind myself she is my mom.
You poor thing.
Sorry, Shark Bait. That has got to be painful on many levels.
oh no – Shark Bait!!! I’m so sorry.
Yes, grabbyhands, et al! It’s the most terrifying possibility I’ve ever witnessed in all my years as a voting American. I just found out that a woman I thought I knew very well is actually voting for him. I can’t look at her now. My husband keeps telling me not to let “politics” ruin a friendship, but ffs, this is NOT merely politics! It is a complete failure of conscience to want a despotic, ignorant, cruel, sexist, heedless, incautious, greed-above-morals bigot as president of the most powerful country in the world. This will affect everyone, not just Americans! I don’t like Hillary, but I will vote for her in November and I am urging everyone I know to do the same.
I agree that it’s hard to separate politics and friendship…and this election goes so far beyond mere “differences.” I’ve sadly had to distance emotionally myself from my parents because their conservative ideology at times has just made my blood boil and I can’t talk to them about politics, which I think is really important stuff, ever.
I have a friend who’s voting for Hillary and brags about her Trump-supporting husband and how their political affiliations don’t affect their marriage. I’d seriously consider that grounds for divorce!
I was afraid to ask, but my blunt husband just asked our only Republican friends who they were supporting and they are NOT voting for Trump, even though they are not voting for HC either. They will vote third party, even though they realize they’ll be throwing their vote away, but they just can’t bring themselves to vote for Trump! I was SO RELIEVED to hear that! And it gave me a lot of faith, too.
Yes, anyone who votes for Trump is as hateful and nutty as he is. Parts of my family are voting for him. Ugh.
I’m sorry, Esmom, that must be really painful for you. At least in my case it’s a casual friend, not a close relative, who is (in my friend’s case, rabidly) for Trump. I honestly can’t understand how finding out that someone close to us was voting for that madman-bigot WOULDN’T affect the relationship! A couple of times in the beginning of Trump’s candidacy, I wondered if my husband might be a secret Trump supporter (turns out he’s not), and I felt exactly as you said you would in that circumstance: I honestly didn’t know if I could stay married to him if it turned out to be true. For anyone to call this “just politics” grossly ignores the heart of it, which is ethics, ideology, values, morals, and even the most basic humanity. I don’t give a sh*t about party politics, never have, though I’ve always been a registered Dem. My loyalty will NEVER be to any political party — it will only be to ideals, ethics, and humanity, period — and Donald Trump possesses none of those things, as far as I can see.
It’s like finding out that a friend or family member agrees with Hitler (who also was elected). It’s not about partisan politics. The revulsion is because of what that tells you about them. Trump really is a special case.
Me too. This race is going to give me a freakin’ ulcer.
Donald Trump’s ideal moderators – Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck.
Sean Hannity and Roger Ailes.
Mickey Mouse and Goofy.
Hahahahaha. Somehow I feel Mickey would get tired of his bs real fast though.
Only trump could manage to piss off Mickey
Goofy is too nice to everybody but Mickey is a real businessmouse who would destroy Mr. Trump quickly on his economic pronouncements.
Pauly D and Bethenny Frankel
Allen West, that hateful Becky who yells all the time (Ann Coulter Jr.), Sheriff Uncle Ruckus are some other contenders.
So he’s already coming up with excuses to back out of the debates, huh? Good call.
RE: “Trump’s staff has been flummoxed by his political naiveté.” >>>> Really?! Then they have piss poor foresight.
That line got to me too. Like did the moment of realization come before or after he offered his job basically to all the vice-presidential nominees?
Yeah really. He’s not even good at his (ostensible) day job. What were they thinking?
“Waterboard a puppy” seriously has me cracking up. Trump would actually be horrible enough to do that too, and yet his loonies would try to write it off as “it was a joke! Gosh this country is so puppy PC. Can’t even waterboard a puppy anymore without people taking it the wrong way”
LOL…puppy PC!
I cracked up laughing at the nun and puppy bit too.
I just could NOT believe that Trump wanted that baby kicked out of his rally, that was the biggest face palm moment for me, pretty much equivalent to killing a nun. Being kind to babies is the most basic requirement of running for office. The fact he didn’t get that is just astounding.
Wait, wait. What was wrong with the baby bit? I thought politicians and would-be Prezzies were supposed to kiss snowballs and throw babies … How’d this one go wrong?!
The baby bit was so weird. I watched the whole thing. He looked annoyed but at first he was going on and on about how the baby was fine, he loved babies, don’t worry about it but his body language didn’t match the words. Then a few minutes later, he said to get the baby out of there and that he couldn’t believe the mother believed him earlier, that he would like a baby crying while he was speaking. It was so strange, there was still a disconnect between words and body language, as though he was trying to make it seem he was kidding but he really wasn’t. He was really aggravated according to his body language and the tone of his voice. It seemed so disrespectful to the mom also. The odd thing is that I could hardly hear the baby (the real one, not the Trumpster).
@jwoolman. So, Trump+baby was the opposite of THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqhzWlqN3uc
Yup, Barack Obama is a well-known baby whisperer!
I have a friend who’s like that with cats. One cat who had been abused before she arrived would run off when anybody came into the house and even stiffened and got a terrified look in her eye when I had to pick her up. My friend was lying on the floor, trying to fix something under the sink, and she hopped on his legs and started purring loudly…. Years later, another easily spooked cat came out from hiding to watch him work on something else and even engaged in the string game with him. I figure he must smell right to them, we should bottle his pheromones.
As much as I dislike Trump, there is a part of me that loves watching him take the GOP down with him. For the entire Obama administration, they GOP has been using Fox New and Rush Limbaugh to incite these hostile microagressions about race and gender. And now Donald Trump, who is the equivalent to a internet commentator who goes by the user BIGHANDS69, has risen up from the ashes, seized control and just started spewing all of this hateful crap bluntly out loud.
To put it in Game of Thrones terms, the GOP are the children of the forest and Trump is their Night’s King. They created this monster, lost control and now they can’t stop it. And now America has to hold the door so Trump isn’t unleashed into the world.
Your GOP GOT analogy–just…*applause.* My every hat off to you.
–TheRealPinky
Nicely put, Jenns. We’re all on Hodor duty.
Where’s our Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen? We need Ghost and the dragons unleashed on this raging orangutan.
“Raging orangutan” is perfect. And I can imagine the dragons flying around the world destroying every Trump building, every Trump sign, every Trimp anything.
We need a damn “like” or “up vote” button here!
that’s really it, Trump is the RABID Dog their Dogwhistles called
More like BIGHANDS666.
And yes, and it’s the Frankenstein monster story too.
YASSSSS!
That was amazing Jenns!!!!!!!!!!! For God’s sake America – HOLD THE FREAKING DOOR!!!!!!!!! Everyone has to get out and vote. I am the only person at my company that is not Hispanic and I have been thinking about trying to help anyone that wants it to get registered and go vote.
With America, too, perishing in the attempt? It is a brilliant comment, and a tragic one.
I think Trump would have no problem with “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever”. That’s pretty much a part of his platform.
His newest schtick – calling Obama the founder of ISIS, and Hillary is the co-founder. His fans scream with joy and clap like morons.
Trump has also been lying about Clinton abolishing the 2nd amendment if she becomes president. Facts don’t mean much to Trump supporters.
She can’t even do that if she wanted to. Maybe we should start sending The Donald old high school civics books. He seems to not know the basics of how our government works.
@Jwoolman – no kidding! Being the president doesn’t mean that person is all powerful and calls the shots. We do have 3 branches of govt to serve as checks and balances.
But what can I expect from Putin’s adopted bro?
It is really amazing (in a terrifying way) to watch his fans.
I stumbled onto a FB post yesterday by Susan Olsen, aka Cindy Brady, and it was appalling, as were her fellow commenters. She kept saying how it was “getting hard” to keep supporting Trump given his recent shenanigans, but that Hillary was far, far worse. She wouldn’t get into specifics but she kept saying, when pressed, that Trump MIGHT be dangerous but that Hillary DEFINITELY was.
She also kept citing the talking point that really leaves me scratching my head, that Hillary has zero experience and accomplishments to qualify her for the POTUS, but that Trump does. It was like stumbling into an alternate universe, one where Cindy Brady apparently knows all and where most people don’t reply using their own thoughts or words but instead slap up a meme, such as a photo of Elizabeth Warren with the (false) words “Trying to pass herself off as Native American for decades!” Heavy sigh.
Oh Cindy Brady… What happened to you??
Shame on you Cindy Brady! What would Mike and Carol think?
Is she my mom or the majority of my cousin’s relatives?? Ugh Cindy, no girl.
People like her are everywhere. I shake my head.
He’s already laying the groundwork for pulling out of the debates – “the moderators aren’t fair!”
The thing that keeps amazing me about Trump is that he says he’s tough and able to handle the demands of the Presidency, but he complains at every single opportunity. He wants personal control over hand picking the moderators for the debates, he complained that he wanted to “slap” DNC speakers who talked badly about him, etc. What the heck is he gonna do when he has to deal with places like Russia, North Korea, etc.?
That’s what nuclear weapons are for.
I hope that’s sarcasm.
Of course. In his security briefing, Trump asked multiple times in a one hour meeting, why we have nuclear weapons but don’t use them. Multiple times.
phew, okay 🙂
As long as you’re not Trump it’s sarcasm. He would ‘like’ mayamae’s comment.
Bill Maher is correct, Trump is a whiny little bitch.
Correction. A whiny little “orange” bitch. LOL
No, he wanted to punch the speakers in the face…. So hard that their heads would spin, to be precise.
With what? His little tiny, vienna-sausage-fingers, baby hands? Powered by his slack upper body? I imagine it’d be like getting smacked by a goldfish made of ground-up living kielbasa.
MeleeOfSloths- Are you a writer? If not, you should be- an insult like that shows true talent!
I think that as long as his day-to-day reality is that he is surrounded by people who do what he says and going to his rallies, where people are noisy and enthusiastic, he will just keep believing that he is doing fine..
I actually disagree. I think that it’s the fact he has said the craziest stuff for months and is rewarded with the nomination over professional, career politicians saying the right thing to the appropriate audience is why he believes he is doing fine.
His candidancy announcement was met with chuckles the world over, his entire crazy campaign has been met with doom laden rhetoric from everyone at every step, and yet he keeps winning.
That is why he believes he is doing fine.
I agree. Nobody has stopped him, so of course he thinks he’s doing fine. The question is whether the Republican Party will stop him. I don’t think they will.
I think they’ll go with the devil they know.
I don’t think the Party can stop him. He won the primary. He would have to be clearly incapacitated to be replaced, but I’m not sure about the protocol. He’s not saying or doing anything different than before the nomination, he’s just under closer scrutiny now. Never hear anything much about Hillary but Trump is in the news all the time as God’s gift to late night comedians. It’s as though Trump is basically running against Trump.
Yes, hopefully his sycophants will prove his undoing.
Historical “fun fact”: Ambrose Beirce wrote a poem that was published in the San Fransisco Chronicle that seemed to encouraged/wish for the assassination of President McKinley. Around the same time, Emma Goldman called for something similar–also in print. Then Leon Czolgosz at the Buffalo Exposition happened.
This is why it matters that Trump said what he did and why it matters that the NRA has come to his aid and why it matters that most republicans in leadership have remained silent… This is also why it matters that most states have prioritized STEM over liberal arts/history.
This is also why it matters when your drum circle or crunchy granola yoga class pals say they are going to vote their conscience and vote for Jill Stein.
Y’all. I woke up riled. RILED.
This reminds me of Sarah Palin’s “Don’t retreat, reload” ad, which featured a map of the US showing congressmen/women up for re-election in the crosshairs. Literal crosshairs. The map included AZ congresswoman Gabby Giffords, who was shot in the head shortly thereafter.
Okay. You just scared the eff out of me.
Great comment. 🙂
Agreed. I’m riled as well. Ruled that people have so much h8 & distain for one candidate that they are willing to vote in a person so demonstrably unfit to be POTUS. People are literally willing to lay waste to our country to not have Clinton in office. The media need to stop beating around the bush this is about not having a female POTUS.
I think that the people I know who hate Hillary don’t hate her because she’s a woman – cause they loved Sarah Palin. It’s because the Repubs have beaten her up,for 30 years and it’s stuck.
Good history lesson. How about Carly Fiorina talking about the faked video and the subsequent fatal attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic? Of course hateful people with guns take the hint. They always have.
For everyone I know who says “Don’t worry he will never be elected POTUS”.I remind them that last year,they said the thing about him becoming the Republican nominee for Presideent.:-(
Tbph I don’t know why people said that.
I never thought Donald Trump would make it this far but it’s not like there’s some purity test between saying you’re going to run for office and becoming the nominee.
He had the huge leg up that other candidates struggle to get in terms of money and media attention. From there it was just a matter of appealing to the base of Republican voters and voila – first past the post. That’s literally all it takes.
If enough people believe in a candidate who says we’re all being controlled by spaghetti noddles and vote for him then we too could end up with that for the nominee.
I don’t like the complacency of people in “safe” states. What happens if all the people in “safe” states say home or write in a 3rd person. They should be working on aiding swing states. What happens at the federal level affects them, too.
Don’t worry – the Dems are on it. Lots of people I know here in NY, a very safe state, are giving money to HRC’s campaign. Closer to the election, her campaign will be organizing supporters to make get out the vote calls to people in other states, as well as busing people to go door to door to talk to people and even escort them to the polls. They did this with Obama last two elections.
Ugh! I cannot bear to look at him. He’s such a gross, freaky ,……. thing!
I love reading the political posts (I’m Canadian and have learned a lot from lurking here), but I’m finding them increasingly difficult to click on. Such hideous header pics! It’s like actively choosing to view a teratoma. I literally physically recoil in horror and mentally shriek.
Would it be horribly cheeky of me to ask Celebitchy to put a different pic in Trump posts? Like the poo emoji maybe?
So I actively chose to view a teratoma because the word is new to me. They say knowledge is power. Huh.
Sorry! I should have put in a disclaimer: “The author of this comment does not encourage googling a teratoma.”
Now I feel bad because my first post here was 1) superficial, and 2) traumatizing to at least one person.
Because I’m a masochistic (seriously warning not to look at something is like ‘Challenge accepted’) I Googled. It’s not as bad as I thought it would be.
I’m not looking – thanks for the warning. The Cheeto that looks almost human-like is enough for me!
This REALLY helps- http://imgur.com/gallery/WCJxR
Ha. Thanks for that link. I very much needed that chuckle.
Very welcome 🙂
The best part is he’s already hurting down ticket Republicans.
I’m taking internal bets as to why he’s doing the things he’s done (including running for office) and so far I feel pretty good about how it’s all playing out. This psychopath will make one hell of a chapter in the history/political science books.
https://instagram.com/p/BInzHiOD0Ch/
^^ This will be our face when that chapter in the history/political science books comes
LMAO! Okay that got me, I also saw another good one that basically said if asked “When did this crazy thing happen.”
Just always answer 2016.
Hahahaha 😂. Too true! And it’s crazy, because 2016 got off to such a great start and held so much promise, and now it’s just like ???
I just googled teratoma. Yup, that’s Trump alright.
May his name be erased.
It will never get into history books because they stop teaching history by the end of WWII. Seriously, it gets cut off there. I remember in college we stopped just before Vietnam and Watergate. My professor told us to ask members of our family about these events because they lived it. WTF?
On the other hand, I’m sure the authors of Game Change are furiously taking notes and a book will be out next year!
Actually, history books in the US usually stop 10-20 years ahead of the present day. In my APUSH and History of the Americas classes, we had books that covered Vietnam and Watergate, but sorta ended after the 2008 election. Everything from the 1990s-on was jumbled into one chapter though, and usually gave the basics on events such as, Bill Clinton getting elected, 9/11, the Iran/Irag War, 2008 and Barack Obama, etc, because they expected us to ask our family about it too. 80s stuff such as Reagan, the rise of conservatism, ramping up on the Cold War is just starting to appear on standardized tests as well. I have no doubt Trump and co. will appear in a history book it might just take a while. I feel on the WTF-factor though, contemporary history is the one my classmates and I were all interested in, yet we got hit with the parent card. 😪
Every time I see Trump’s face, I feel like someone on the Titanic. This country feels like its sinking and the problem is that there are no lifeboats. Facism is rising in Europe. Australia has always been a racist human rights mess. Canada (where I’m buying property) isn’t really as peachy as it seems on the outside. I don’t really trust Justin Trudeau and he is quietly making sure that the discriminatory and downright genocidal projects instituted by the previous gov against First Nations continue to be carried out. This whole planet is a giant shit stain right now.
“It’s like the Shroud of Turin, only for Cheeto-dusted fascists.” That is the best line I’ve ever read on this site!! (and you guys always write some great ones!!)
Buzzfeed’s Nobody knows anything podcast has been following the campaigns and already compared campaigns historically and said all they come up with him IS George Wallace…. Im also being super D*ckish gobbling this up, I hope this continues to careen to where he drops, they have to get whatever Voldemort in a suit they got on the deep bench and then the racists and tea partiers and assorted hurt titty babies that the country isn’t like the 50s leave the republuicans party in ashes loses everywhere and then they come back moderate and non theocratic and POC can vote for that if they want to or ya know go somewhere else… maybe this is the end of the two party system if they can kick him and his so called supporters ( cause exactly WHAT are you ” supporting”? what Policies? if you tell me “Telling it like is” and “make Merica Great again” Im going To Laugh and Call you out
His rallies are packed, so do not become complacent. Sure, it’s his devoted supporters, and he needs more to win. As of now, Hillary is ahead. And he’s losing, not gaining. But you never know. Don’t stay home when it’s time to vote.
I agree. That cover is magnificent.
Bernie campaigns were packed compared to Hilary’s. . I remember when Bernie campaigned in nyc there were about 20 thousand of people at one stop and Hillary beat him bad in New York. So I’m keeping hope alive.
I’m voting for Hillary and probably would never go see her in person. She is yes, boring but still voting for her. Still, you have a great point get out and vote don’t be complacent lazy on election day or we may wake up to Drumpf as President.
Yes, but:
who the hell has the time to go to rallies? I mean, I stay at home with my kids, and they’re way too little to drag to rallies, and most people, you know, are similarly occupied.
I wonder how many of the people at his rallies are actually enrolled or eligible to vote.
I rarely comment here on US politics, although I follow them avidly elsewhere(s), because, although I have in the past worked on tenuously US related projects (some ‘political’), I am British. It is not my place to comment as such.
May I just wish for you all, and the world, that this “meltdown” continues through to November and that it is resoundingly reflected in the most desirable outcome on Polling Day.
I, like many, remain on tenterhooks.
FYI: No maybe/probably about the Secret Service warning The Donald and his purported handlers who can’t seem to hang onto to the leash. The Secret Service had several discussions with his campaign after The Donald’s little Second Amendment solution comment.
What’s he gonna do, tweet at the Secret Service? “Secret Service just like Hitler’s SS. Told me to shut up. Not great Americans. Weak and losers!”
You forgot to add his usual sign off: “Sad.”
But Orangino tweeted that these meetings “didn’t happen.” :p
He probably thinks that since he put his fingers in his ears and chanted “nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah” while the Secret Service were talking, it doesn’t count.
Fear and hate sell. Trump supporters have a lot of fear, hate and anger. That is some powerful brew, especially since they feel powerless and disenfranchised. He gives them voice, they think. But he will not help them at all.
Especially as now they have the rest of the country detesting them even more. He’s backed them into a corner with him. The trouble is, animal instinct when backed into corners is to attack.
Martin Sheen aka President Bartlett pretty much took him down in the new Hollywood Reporter interview. Granted he was doing the interview about his upcoming movie but he had some pretty funny words about Orangino.
I wonder why Palin is suspiciously silent throughout all of this. Could it be she’s pissed he didn’t nominate her as the running mate?
I was wondering about Palin myself. She will usually do or say anything for attention yet she has been strangely quiet as of late.
He went after a Gold Star family… she probably doesn’t know how her incredibly shrunken base would respond.
Maybe the Trumpster even scares Sarah Palin….
That magazine cover is great, they got the mouth perfect, I dont think there is a more horrible person inside and out than him, he makes my skin crawl everytime I see his orange face with his little beedy white eyes and that gerbil hairdo. I hope HC wins every state in November, and he goes and crawls under a rock were he belongs.
The quote reads like Trump is speaking, which is kind of cracking me up.
I recently learned a friend of mine who lives down south is voting for Trump. I shouldn’t be surprised, though I honestly think she is voting for him because her husband who is way more conservative than her is. She thinks Hillary will be a continuation of Obama’s policies which ok…
But she was unable to articulate what Trump would do for her if elected. She even admitted she didn’t think he would win to which I replied with, “So you think your vote doesn’t count? This isn’t Brexit!” She knows he will be a terrible president if elected. I was genuinely curious and asking her in a non-argumentative way why she thought voting for Trump was the answer but she shut down the conversation as she was getting uncomfortable. But again that just led me to believe she is voting for Trump to support her husband and nothing more. Which is still terrible but I do understand it.
Saw on CNN earlier today Wolff Blitzer interviewing Donald Trump in 2007. DONALD TTRUM told Wolff George W Bush was the founder of Isis. Now he’s saying that BHO is the founder of Isis and Hillary is the co-founder.
Anyone noticed how DT sound tranquil. I bet he’s on medication or they has given him a tranquilizer to calm him down. Also, Harry Reed called him a bigot to day on a conference call
I wouldn’t worry too much. If Trump is elected , I don’t think he would be around very long, if he makes a pigs breakfast of it in the first few weeks something unfortunate will happen (be careful what you ask for Trump). A CIA aquaintance one told me that you can protect POTUS from the outside but not from the inside , I said what about Kennedy and Reagan and he said ….don’t ask. Pence is the one you should be looking at.
I haven’t looked at them in detail (because I couldn’t find details, even on his website) but it seems that Trump’s economic plan will actually hurt the majority of his supporters. And help him, his family, and friends.
He’s now raving about the estate tax, which he wants to get rid of and only affects people in the upper 0.2% since the rest of us don’t have more than 5 1/2 million dollars in assets… He’s saying he knows many families who were destroyed by that “death tax”. Except Republicans sang that tune a few years ago and couldn’t find a single family even after looking very, very hard. Most rich people hire estate planners and end up paying very little of it anyway. Setting up a charitable trust is a nice way to support charities of your choice and keep the $ away from the government, once the amount equal to the tax that would have otherwise been owed is reached – the rest goes straight to your heirs untaxed.
He also is saying he rescued 200 stranded soldiers and sent his private planes to transport them to Miami. Except the military (with its YUGE budget) routinely pays commercial airlines like Trump’s airline at the time (2003? 2004?) to do such transport as a military charter, which is paid very well. There would be no reason for them to take an unlikely donation of such services from tight-fisted Trump, they probably couldn’t even find a form for it. But the Trumpetts are awestruck at Cinnamon Hitler’s “generosity”.
Maybe *I’m* crazy, but I’m really starting to think he doesn’t even want to win – that he’s a res herring candidate. He got the nomination. His work here is done. Now it’s time to really let the crazy out. I’m really thinking the entire nation’s just been had.
I can’t be sure myself. The Donald is always out for The Donald, so he is certainly intending to get as much money out of this campaign as possible. He’s brought $$ into his own venues by using them for campaign events and also has been charging the campaign with all his family’s expenses since the primaries. He loaned money to his campaign and is getting it back with interest from donations and is trying to also get it back from the Republican Party (that might be their only leverage with him). He promised to match donations from small donors at least, but I’m sure he is again loaning the matching funds. So all the small donations go into his pocket for reimbursement of the principal, plus other donations pay back the interest which is considerable if you do some reasonable math.
But he’s not spending very much of donations on the campaign so far. He has rallies, but I wonder if he’s getting others to foot those bills. He says he sees no need to Get Out The Vote. He gets so much free publicity from the media due to his mouth that he doesn’t need tv ads. Twitter is free. He doesn’t have much of a staff. It does seem that he’s more focused on maximizing his personal profit from the campaign that actually winning the election. But it’s hard to tell if that is also because he thinks it will magically fall into place. I don’t think we’ve had to deal with a raging pathological narcissist before as a Presidential candidate, so it’s really hard to know how his mind works.
The Trumpster has been saying some scary stuff about if he wins, talking about putting Americans in Guantanamo, shutting down the Internet, stifling media. Some things he’s said about instant law and order after the inauguration make me think he’s planning martial law. This isn’t as far-fetched as it might seem – during the Reagan Administration, Oliver North helped design plans for martial law and rounding up war protesters to place in old military bases in case of troops sent to Central America and widespread protest. Since I was one of those pesky dissidents pushing info around on Central America and even had my phone tapped, I paid more attention than most. We discussed alternative ways to get information around the state since phone lines would be unreliable (we already routinely experienced disruptions in phone service whenever just getting the word around concerning relevant Congressional votes coming up on short notice, and those “radical Quakers” in the American Friends Service Committee, the Quaker service organization, were often unreachable via long distance because they were especially targeted). Reagan had similar plans when governor of California to deal with Vietnam War protesters until some kind soul pointed out some conflicts with the Constitution. Never underestimate the chances of such things happening here. It’s too easy to get people to go along with such things by claiming anti-terrorism.
I just hope The Donald gets bored and wants to go back to his other toys before the election and so doesn’t try very hard to get elected. But he’s revving up his core supporters with talk about a rigged election, rigged debates, claiming Obama and Hillary are co-founders of ISIS, relentless hate talk about Hillary, etc. This may all be a game to him, but we could see large-scale violence and assassinations as a result. He’s setting up our current President and Hillary in particular as evil demons and less than human, and that never turns out well.
Holy shit! I’ve been out of the country for about a week and he has seemed to have finally lost what little he had left of his mind. I’m truly terrified for our country if he wins in November.