Well, well. Meghan Markle covers the October issue of Vanity Fair. This is… surprising. Generally speaking, royal girlfriends are encouraged to NOT give interviews, much less pose for the cover of Vanity Fair. Meghan is an actress and promoting her show calls for giving interviews. But still… would a supporting actress on a basic cable show get the cover of VF if she was just dating some dude in Canada? Of course not. It’s worth noting that Meghan doesn’t shy away from that reality either – she knows she’s on the cover of Vanity Fair because of Prince Harry. So she gave some quotes about him. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights (these are just the quotes about Harry):
Handling international fame: “It has its challenges, and it comes in waves—some days it can feel more challenging than others. And right out of the gate it was surprising the way things changed. But I still have this support system all around me, and, of course, my boyfriend’s support.”
Handling the tabloid nonsense: “I can tell you that at the end of the day I think it’s really simple. We’re two people who are really happy and in love. We were very quietly dating for about six months before it became news, and I was working during that whole time, and the only thing that changed was people’s perception. Nothing about me changed. I’m still the same person that I am, and I’ve never defined myself by my relationship.”… As for Markle, she prefers what the British call “ostriching.” She says, “I don’t read any press. I haven’t even read press for Suits. The people who are close to me anchor me in knowing who I am. The rest is noise.”
On her “boyfriend,” the prince: “We’re a couple. We’re in love. I’m sure there will be a time when we will have to come forward and present ourselves and have stories to tell, but I hope what people will understand is that this is our time. This is for us. It’s part of what makes it so special, that it’s just ours. But we’re happy. Personally, I love a great love story.”
Apparently, Meghan is still sort of playing around with the timeline of their relationship too, because VF added this note: “The sentence regarding the first time Markle met Prince Harry has been amended. Markle told Vanity Fair that the couple met in July 2016.” Seriously, that late? They met in July 2016 and by late October/early November, the whole thing went public and Harry was issuing statements to protect her. Do the math on that. While it was always clear that Harry and Meg fell for each other very quickly, I still find the timeline sketchy.
As for everything else…Meghan feels very confident in her relationship, that much is clear. She obviously did this interview before the holiday in Botswana, which took up most of August. So… my guess is that even if Harry proposed to her during that trip, she knew it was coming and that’s why she felt fine about doing this interview.
Cover courtesy of Vanity Fair, additional photo courtesy of WENN.
*slow clap*
also, I don’t think she’d do this unless she was damn sure she was about to be engaged or engaged already on the DL.
Agreed!! Bring on this royal wedding y’all!
Totally agree.
Well done Henry’s sparkle!
Did Vogue bombef anniversary issue model – the common regular Entitled LaZY snowflake middleton see how one with status/Royal or marry in/ Celebrity wear several thousand pound georgeous regal gown for a mag cover shoot???!
Prince/ess in waiting Henry sparkle look nothi g less than CP Mary Denmark photo shoot with her Prince on that AZ Vogue cover- perfect regalness.
Let’s hope so. Because if not…
To me it means she has the ring. I can’t imagine her giving this interview otherwise.
Slow clapping along with you. I’m here for this and I thought it was a good interview – she gave quotes, without really saying anything at all.
Engagement announcement coming soon!
She was extremely crafty, wasn’t she??!! LOL.
Still honking for Merry!!
Yup. I think they will announce after Invictus.
I’m still thinking they won’t announce till after TQ and DoE’s anniversary in Nov., announce in Dec., and have a wedding in May (just in time for Kate to take off the baby weight lol).
This says it all. I mean why else?
Kiss of death to talk about relationship. Just ask Diana’s sister.
Meghan didn’t say she’d rather marry the bin man.
Yay if this indicates an engagement, and I am reassured that it does. 😻 I doubt VF would risk a cover unless they had the beans.
July tho? Really? It felt like it was well before that?
Ditto
“We were very quietly dating for about six months before it became news”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the news come out about them last October? So 6 months prior would be April? And if they started dating in April chances are they met before that?
They’re being very sketchy with dates. Is it because there was some overlap?
But yes totally agree, she must be sure that she has the ring either in the bag or on the way!
Yep, agreed the timeline is sketchy. The news came out end of October/early November. Six months prior to that would be April/May 2016. 6 months from July would be January 2017 hmmmmm!
Overlap on what though?
Overlap with her previous relationship with the Canadian chef. They vacationed together in Mexico in May 2016.
I think she was dating a Canadian chef/restaurant owner. Or was he her hubby? I dunno. But I’m sure on his occupation. 😛
HH, the Canadian chef is a different person than the ex-husband.
There was quite clearly overlap between Megan/Chef and Megan/Harry.
Probably but it isn’t like she can be honest with the scrutiny involved. There can be no normal single life since it seems Victorian rules apply only to maybe Duchesses.
She and her ex broke up before she and Harry met (confirmed in media at the time, and she was strongly hinting at problems as early as February). She and Harry met for the first time in July. Obviously started dating right away. The relationship went public in November. July-November is five months.
Surely it’s a lot more logical that she is simply speaking casually and rounding up from five months to six, than to create some elaborate conspiracy theory involving them secretly meeting months prior, having a secret relationship for months, staging a fake first meeting, then announcing all this to the press when she could have just not given out any information about dates, for literally no reason?
In the real world human beings speak casually and imprecisely. Honestly only in tinhat-dom are celebs treated as suspicious if they don’t speak exactly like Spock at all times. If a celeb was to reference “a trip we took last summer” and the trip was actually in early September, you can guarantee within a day there’ll be a 20,000 word forensic analysis on Tumblr collating weather patterns for September cross-referenced with a History of September in Classical and Popular Culture, thereby proving a “summer trip” could not possibly take place in September, therefore the celeb is lying and their entire family are robots. Because the idea that in the real world people misspeak or speak casually just does not exist.
@Meggles: co-sign! You articulated this so well.
Or there’s a pregnancy/fake baby/homosexual relationship throwing off the timeline all predicted by Nostradamus.
+1000
Gotta love tinhat-dom! 😀
Lol exactly, Meggles.
Meggles…Yes, yes 🙂 🙂
“In the real world human beings speak casually and imprecisely.” Agree with you 100%…. BUT with all due respect, this is not the real world, this is an actress whose job is to be in the spotlight and a prince who has spent his entire life in the spotlight. These are people with public relations specialists among their staff. They do not sit down with international media and speak casually. They know how much trouble imprecise words in the media glare can cause. They made a choice to go with VF. There would have been key messages prepared, media training sessions, possibly even mock Q&A sessions to prepare for what they knew would be a highly scrutinized interview. Nothing casual about this.
I’m rooting for Meg and Harry but I’m not sure this was the right move. Even if Harry is okay with it, you don’t want to rock the boat until you have a ring.
Correction… you don’t want to rock the boat until you have popped out a few blood princes/princess to secure your place in history/royalty!.
@whatever you’re.correct. lol.
Except she’s not Kate. She’s an equal party in the relationship.
Bettyrose… she’s not Kate, but she’s hardly an equal party. It would be generous to refer to her as a B-List actress.
Gibee, agreed. That’s why I was, admittedly, slightly disappointed when it came out that they were dating. If Harry had to date an American actress, it would have been so much more fun if she was someone super high-profile. Not hating on their love, just saying.
But she can walk away if not happy. That makes them equals.
@Gibee, yeah she kind of is. As Sixer (?) once hilariously put it, “he’s the 5th supporting character in a 1000 year soap opera”. Let’s face it, as 5th (soon-to-be 6th) in line, he’s the royal equivalent of a D-lister. He’s the one that’s punching above his weight in looks, education and accomplishments.
@Shambles, how so? I think her lower celeb profile is why they’re a good match. Can you imagine an actress of Jlaw’s calibre giving up a phenomenal career to play 7th fiddle to Kate and William.
Lola, I agree they’re probably well-matched, and I doubt any high profile actress would give up her career for him. I just meant it would have been way more fun for gossip if he’d dated someone we all know and like to gossip about.
Emma Stone or Jennifer Lawrence aren’t going to give up their privacy, lucrative careers, their homes with their chef’s kitchens and swimming pools, independence or California lifestyle to marry dear Harry.
Can you really see JL wearing one of those hats and clutching a purse while smiling and waving? Emma maybe but she is feisty too. Both are very ambitious and strong willed. JL would lose her patience curtseying to Kate and just stop. Decorum be damned. I don’t think the British public like those types of American women. lol
Megan can leave her career with no regrets.
I agree that they’re equals in the sense that Harry probably discusses things with her and has no problem deferring to her to make her happy. I think it’s more about the differences between William and Harry and how they treat women than it is about Kate and Meghan though.
Since when does ‘B list actress’, as you call her, mean she’s not successful? She is a working actress, with a tv show, and makes her own money – she supports herself. She’s independent.
SHEESH.
Nessa, she is a B-list actress. That’s pretty difficult to deny. That doesn’t mean she isn’t successful – television right now, with approximately 18 million shows a season, needs plenty of actors and actresses like this. Nothing wrong with it. Hollywood wouldn’t work if it was all Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt in everything, all the time.
However.
Being famous does not just equal being famous in all cases. Harry has been famous since the day he was born. Megan has not. Harry has watched relatives be preyed on by press vultures for a long time. It helped to destroy his parent’s marriage (though obviously they helped that along themselves). It killed his mother.
It doesn’t make sense to act as though being a B-list celebrity with a “lifestyle blog” and walking a few red carpets has prepared her for the sort of life Harry leads.
She has an education, a career, and a mind of her own. Money is only part of the equation. Self-suffiency entitles you to expect equality in a relationship, even if his family is richer and better known than yours.
I’m with Nessa and Bettyrose. She is an articulate, educated, hardworking person by all accounts and evidence. She’s been abroad for an embassy internship, right? She seems calm about press. She’s given speeches beautifully. She has much to get used to, but she seems like a strong, adaptable, cheerful, thoughtful person who will do just fine and operate as an equal in this manner. Some people are natural adapters.
They have had discussions about this. There is no way she would do this interview and say what she did without Harry being aware.
I agree.
I agree, too.
Yep.
The whole photo shoot took place in London so of course it was with the blessing of the Palace machinery.
Harry AND his PR people signed off.
If you’re an equal partner in a relationship, you don’t do an interview like this on your own, on the fly. They made the decision together.
If not, then yes, it will be doomsday.
Idk, this relationship seems super random, kind of like the 21st century Wallis Simpson. But whatever. Today is so horrible with disgusting Trump rescinding DACA, that I’ll take any random gossip and discuss, just to think about something else.
The DACA ruling is cruel and sickening. A distraction is the best thing today.
I knew the gutless coward was going to do it, I just knew it.
@gogo I don’t think she would’ve done the interview if Harry didn’t know and she is getting engaged. She would look pretty stupid coming out and declaring how much she is in love especially to a publication like Vanity Fair.
Has Kate given an interview on her own yet? When was Diana’s first interview. I also don’t think this was a good idea. I am sure Grandma Lizzie won’t be pleased. I get that Meghan may want to do it her way, in which case, good for her, and good luck. She will need it with that family.
There is no way in hell that Harry did not sign off on this, 100%. It’s part of the official rollout.
I agree because I think they’re truly in love and respect each other. I don’t think she would have given an interview that Harry wasn’t on board with, but that’s just a sign of a healthy relationship. It’s not any indication that she’s subservient to him, as others seem to be suggesting.
Its a pre engagement piece of a princess in tbe makimg. This was approved by POW TW and potential King Henry who seem to keep with Royal protocol. Approvsl and respect to his father, grandparents snd RF.
Love the gown reminds pf CP MARY Vogue cover of fairy tale Princess and family.
There’s no way this was done without Harry’s approval, and I don’t see Harry approving if he thought there was any chance they’d break up 2 months after publication, so yeah…they’re engaged.
Absolutely agree. They are engaged and ready to marry.
I agree too – she could not have done this without the royal go-ahead. Methinks the stage is being set. Lights, Camera, Action!
BritAfrica, But what benefit does this give the royal family? Why would they give the go ahead for this interview?? Sure seems out of character.
And Bex, you can be engaged and still break up. I broke off an engagement. Add in that she is American, an actress, and they have been dating for not that long and living on different continents, plus Harry is a big bratty baby, I don’t think I would have done that.
Oh Sarah…….honestly, what YOU would have done/may have done has zero relevance here.
You are not her and she is not you – period.
So, BritAFrica, whose judgement should I trust? Your’s? Or my own, an American like Meghan who is sensible and smart.
I think i will stick with my own opinion, thanks anyway.
For logistical and 20th anniversary reasons it has not been possible for H and M to be seen in public together so this magazine cover has been brought out to placate the public who are wondering what is actually happening with this couple, I was expecting an engagement in the Spring.
She’s gorgeous and well spoken and obviously Prince Harry approved this, but I can’t help wondering how Prince Charles, Philip and the Queen feel about this l, I thought the motto was never complain, never explain. I wonder too about even William’s thoughts becomes a lot more difficult to complain about press invasion when the royal gf is doing cover interviews on her relationship (yes she is an actress but it’s not as though this would be a cover story without the Harry discussion). I look forward to hearing thoughts of the Brits and royal watchers on here!
I agree. I don’t think this was a great move becoming of a potential member of the BRF-although I agree that without Harry’s approval/a ring it wouldn’t have happened.
I am sure the Palace (BP) would have known about the interview and given their blessing. If not, well….
Also recall that TQ was on the cover of Vanity Fair last year.
It seems like William, Kate and Harry do all kinds of things that they don’t really run through BP. They do their own “pr”. I agree he signed off on it-but I’m going to guess this wouldn’t necessarily be run through the older royals.
They already know and approved. I don’t believe for a second Harry is that rebellious.
Personally, this shows that they aren’t going to be shuffling around behind the Normals and that might be the point. Sooner or later their lack of engagement is going to be obvious and Charles is sensitive about the public deciding once QE2 is gone they are useless. Camilla needs some cover right now too. This closes the Summer of Di.
So why not throw a shiny glamorous couple to the press to distract from the Normals?
I don’t know, it seems like something of this magnitude would need to be run past the palace. I was thinking the other day while watching a documentary on Diana how it seems like the royal family is being a lot more cool with the younger generation’s relationships. I think it was sad of Kate to just wait around like she did, doing nothing of substance, but in general, the idea of not rushing Will into a marriage was a good one. It gave them time to work with Kate, get her some princess training, and let her experience the world before locking into it (I just wish she had attempted to do something interesting with her time, too).
Now, with Harry, it seems like they’re not fighting who he is dating the way they fought Sarah Ferguson. He’s dating an actress, she’s going to bring a certain level of her own media savvy and expectations, and this interview feels like a smart roll out. It’s the first step bridging their worlds. I have no doubt they will be engaged, if they aren’t already, and it looks like they’ll ease her over to the royal side not by working against who Meghan already is, but by applying her background to serve the firm. It’s smart, really.
The waiting and princess training clearly failed with Kate because she still can’t do a decent amount of engagements and still barely speaks six years post marriage.
And it wasn’t the Palace or the Queen that made her wait. She decided on her own to do that and once married she continued, with Will’s approval, to do very little. BP has clearly stated that the younger royals decide their own schedule.
I agree. She says that this is their time, yet she blabs it all over the place. If they are engaged, then announce it for heaven’s sake. If they are not engaged yet, she should have kept quiet. I’m honking for them, but I feel like I’m stuck in traffic.
@ Nic919
I’m not saying it worked, in Kate’s case, because it didn’t, in terms of her actual engagement/willingness to work. But I do think, after revisiting Diana’s story, that a period of preparation and a managed roll out is a much better plan than throwing royal brides off the deep end the way they did Diana and Sarah Ferguson.
See, I disagree…for all of the “modernizing the monarchy” talk from W&K, Meghan is actually *doing* something different (and a more modern approach, IMO, as opposed to being mute for ten+ years like Kate was).
I think this cover and story are great; VF has a wide audience and a lot more people will learn who she is and about her relationship with Harry, because clearly an engagement announcement is coming soon.
It also sends a clear message to the racist idiots that Meghan isn’t going anywhere, and that she is secure in her relationship. I think it’s great.
I totally agree. She seems smart and confident. If she is already someone in the public eye, then why can’t she do interviews? She looks gorgeous on the cover, too.
I would like to believe this was arranged to get the public ready for a more visible and important Harry as Bill and Kate retire to non-working-parent childrearing.
Yes, I agree. I don’t see how this interview benefits the royal family and why she would give it? And why would they (QEII, etc.) sign off on it? What good does it do them? Is it to get some more people on the side of Harry and Meghan? I don’t know what most Brits think about this, but the comments in the DM are about 99% negative. I know, they are like Trumpers there, so what do other Brits think?
I actually think that Prince Charles will try his best to be supportive of this relationship. I have no doubt that he detests the Middleton’s and the influence they have over William and that he has little contact with his grandchildren. Charles may be hoping for a better relationship with Harry’s putative family. Also I think Charles will find conversations with Meghan much more interesting than conversations with Kate. Meghan has an interest in world affairs and the environment and organic living etc. In fact I am sure these conversations have already taken place. I also stand by my much earlier comments some months back that Camilla was completely astonished at the way the Palace was bending over backwards to accommodate Meghan and that nobody was allowed to say a word against her and Camilla was saying how easy the girl was having it compared to her entry into the royal family. But Camilla has always been delusional regarding her own role in matters…….
The interview was in late June before the Canada/US holiday (Suits is always on hiatus for a week furing that time). She was about to travel to London to see Harry.
This is just in time for the Invictus Games. Perfect and she just looks stunning.
Damn, chica has some balls. Just casually throwing that “my boyfriend” phrase around everywhere, knowing how much sh!t she’ll probably get for it. To the people who want this relationship to fail, I’m sure that comes off like she’s using “her boyfriend” for PR.
Also, can we talk about “The Bitter Tears of Jared and Ivanka”?? Lmao.
I mean, she is using him for PR. And they’re both using this as PR for their relationship roll-out.
She doesn’t get anywhere near VF without her connection to him, so there’s really no way to sugarcoat that. She’s not there because of Suits.
@Kate: honest question – why do you jump to the conclusion that she’s using him for PR as opposed to believing that they are actually in love?
This cover/story is definitely PR, but for *both* of them – I believe Harry was 100% behind her with it and that it’s the beginning of preparing people for an engagement announcement.
Not that she is “using” him for PR to raise her profile in order to further her career or anything like that.
I could be wrong, but that’s my read on it.
Of course she is on VF because of Harry, and why not? she looks absolutely stunning too. The circulation of this issue will go through the roof. Other media will be scrambling to get her on their front pages because Meghan is going to be a cash cow for them like Diana.
@Shambles, that Javanka headline made me giggle too 🙂
@ Shambles:
Lmao! I immediately opened the story up on another page to be greedily devoured later!
😁😁😁
Lol.
VF can be dishy and fun to read. This one looks good.
This is weird! But I have to imagine his press team sanctioned it…maybe she didn’t want her first big interview to be the engagement one like Kate. A way of setting herself apart as her own woman.
@Talie, ITA! Meghan is no Kate and I for one find it extremely refreshing.
I think you are right. Giving interviews to the press is not usually the “done thing” for royal girlfriends but it would be even more weird if it was done without Harry’s knowledge. Buck House might not be amused though.
This is really interesting, because there’s no way this happened without Harry’s support. I wonder if they’ve decided to lean into the realities of her job, and we’ll see a very untraditional rollout for her. It will be interesting to see how this plays. It’s also interesting to note that while doing an interview with a major fashion mag is always going to be splashy, this could easily have been a September cover and they didn’t go that route, I feel like that would have invited too much backlash.
I hate to be “that person,” but VF really isn’t a fashion magazine…it does feature some shoots, but for the most part it is more of a general interest/society magazine. It covers politics, entertainment, crime stories, etc.
I mean I do get what you’re saying, but VF isn’t anything like Vogue. The focus here is on Meghan’s words, not her clothes. The September issue of Vogue is a big deal but VF is very different.
I also think that this was the last chance for Meghan to do a semi risqué fashion shoot before she has to tone things down a bit, this was her last fashion shoot as ‘model’. Future shoots will all be in connection with charitable stuff. So this VF cover was a sort of goodbye to her actress/model life, and the photographer did a good job.
Welp, I was wrong about Meghan. She is ready to give it all up for this dude. *sigh*
Give up what, a mediocre tv career? She can do much more for the social justice issues she care about as a royal.
This dude? You mean the man that she is in love with?
Meghan clearly loves Harry and that means that to be with him she has to give up her TV career in another country. That also means she gets to put all that humanitarian work she does so well to good use. I look at it as a start of an even better and more useful career.
What always surprises me is that we talk like we know them. Are you sure she is in love with him? How do we know that a 35/36 year old actress in a basic cable TV show isn’t with Harry so she can have a live of luxury on the backs of the British taxpayers? We really know nothing about her, but so many people have created this Fantasy Meghan, based on absolutely nothing. She is an actress who has done a bit of charity work. That is ALL we know about Meghan.
Maybe it’s because I am a NYer, but I don’t take much at face value. I think for an American woman of her age to be willing to totally change her life, literally bowing and scraping to the likes of Kate, there is something else up here, too. She may love him, although he seems like a petulant brat. But I don’t believe she, an actress, doesn’t also love the publicity, the cameras, the fame and the $$$$ for life.
Absolutely correct, Sarah.
There are plenty of women willing to change their lives-even at the age of 36. People get married and have to move to another country because their partner has been sent their. And they go to a country that has another language-that is very isolating.
Meghan seems very secure and bright. She has lived in Toronto for several years and made a life for herself there.
Kate has done a horrible job as dutchess and she was also anxious for the lifestyle. What’s the difference? Kate is more of a want to be then Meghan.
I am also a New Yorker and I am not as cynical as you are.
@ Sarah, Robin:
Lets agree in something, shall we……Meghan can donate both her kidneys to dying babies and you would say it was only for publicity. Absolutely NOTHING she does will ever satisfy you or change your mind about her. It would be great if you could acknowledge this to yourself rather than pretend that there’s some version of her you could support. There isn’t. We geddit.
Yeah, they’re getting married. If they’re not engaged now, they have talked about it. “I’m sure there will be a time when we will have to come forward and present ourselves and have stories to tell” Girl, you just promised us a wedding.
She sure did, and I for one am excited!
ME TOO!
Count me in.
Me too! We NEED a royal wedding. All of the news for the past year has been so utterly awful and scary and heartbreaking, and the world needs a nice, fluffy distraction.
A spectacle that only something the magnitude of a royal wedding can provide.
I hope they announce soon!! 💃🏻
hahahahaha! so true!
Me three !
Yup! That statement says it all. Personally I can’t wait for their official joint engagement interview.
I really hope she got permission from HM and her couriers (and not just Harry) to do this otherwise she is toast. The BRF really don’t like people who are indiscreet. This interview was just to ‘promote’ her relationship with Harry, can’t see that going down well with the Royals, already engaged or not!
I think this was not approved by the upper royals. I think this was done to get the public on their side and the publics sympathy. The royal family uppers cannot get more bad press. This was a scheme to get their relatioship approved
Totally agree!!
Flying Elvi!
That is all.
True. And if they continue to be this non-traditional, maybe we’ll get a full on Vegas wedding.
These two are just full on celebrities. Royal adjacent only.
@Sixer: 🙌🏻
We’ve been waiting long enough. They need to get this show on the road!
I have the weird feeling that we get an interview because there is no engagement.
If she is to join the RF wouldn’t it be more fitting to have the British media doing the spread?
She’d have coaching and probably approved questions an so on…
I find the whole thing a bit confusing.
I’d like to have a British opinion.
American here, so feel free to ignore my opinion.
Meghan needs to show that she’s still American. She may choose to relinquish her citizenship if she marries Harry — it wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing, both the US and UK state departments advise that the marrying-in spouse do this.
However many passports she ends up with, if she marries Harry, she’s going to have to put the interests of the UK first. I think it would be good if she wears the occasional American designer (more than any other non-Brit, at any rate) and speaks with an occasional American journalist after marriage.
To focus on British goods/people/policies before an engagement announcement would be jumping the gun. The British public might feel that she was like the stereotypical girlfriend who started choosing baby names after meeting the parents.
As an American, I don’t want her to forget where she came from, but I’m guessing as to how the Brits see the issue. Now I want a British opinion.
@greymatters
Why would she have to give up her citizenship she can have dual nationality or not become
a British citizen at all. I have been here since 2000 haven’t done it well maybe she can get hers for free (£1700) as part of the RF or not wait like the other minions 3 years-5years.
AG-UK,
Legally, she would not have to give up her citizenship. If you look at the websites of both the American government and that of the United Kingdom, you’ll notice that they both advise the marrying-in spouse (which Meghan would be) to commit to the new nation.
Many people think she should become British because she would be Princess of the UK and her job will be to support her husband in supporting the monarch of the UK.
Many people also think that her children will be titled something — once Charles is king, they’ll be eligible to be Prince and Princess — and it would be weird if they weren’t completely British.
But you’re right, she has several legal options. It’s just that custom — or perception of custom — might sway her to relinquish her American citizenship upon marriage to Harry.
….”To focus on British goods/people/policies before an engagement announcement would be jumping the gun”…
That’s actually what I meant as coaching and pre-approved questions- the ability to say a lot without actually saying much. Avoiding policies altogether, concentrating on her and his humanitarian work and so on …nothing too personal.
I think she jumped the gun with this interview especially after:” I’m sure there will be a time when we will have to come forward and present ourselves and have stories to tell”….I hope he hurries up with that announcement…
Graydon Carter, VF editor, is Canadian. So is Trudeau, a friend of Meghan and Harry and the Palace.
Five seconds from “We have something to say/impression to make….” to Consider It Done in the perfect well-known intellectual/society/arts and style magazine that’s handled royal stories aplenty, and is easily accessed online around the world. Tina Brown is grinding her teeth somewhere.
The whole fashion shoot took place in London, so KP must have been aware and helped facilitate it. She also mentioned that she had her ‘boyfriends support’, which in other words means she has the support of the whole royal machinery behind her.
@Liberty….please explain why would ex Editor Tina Brown be grinding her teeth?
Oh Sixer, I was scrolling down looking for your comment! 😂
I mean, honestly, if we have to put up with the useless Cambridges, the least Harry could do is marry a Yank and give us flying Elvi, right? There HAS to be some quid pro quo for me with all this bloody royal business.
Hear…..hear!
Can they please just get on with it so that I can have the pleasure of seeing the Daily Fail/Express/Sun implode in my lifetime?? 🙂
The windup is going to be EPIC!
@Sixer, I was taking meetings in Las Vegas once and we happened to meet a pair of decked-out Elvi when we were grabbing cocktails later that day. Both were quite funny and good impersonators, and excellent story tellers, but it turned out that, out of character, just chatting, one was from Birmingham, killing time that summer while his American fiancée was doing a business apprenticeship!
That cover is gorgeous. Hope they have more pictures inside.
i think so too. beautiful shot
I thought a young Julia Roberts with a nice tan. Her nose is much like Robert’s.
I like her original nose better. Still gorgeous, though.
Good call! She does look a bit like a young Julia.
That is her original nose. Check out her childhood pics. Same nose
I honestly don’t find her that attractive, but it’s just a matter of personal taste. She’s beautiful, surely, but I don’t find myself dazzled by her.
It depends on the picture I think. Sometimes she looks like such a natural beauty and other times she can look very average. Nice yoga body though.
Freckles ♡♡♡
Uhhhh….ok. Well, I guess she can’t have her model moment after she gets a title. This just seems weird.
Kate had one- that sloan ranger cover she did a while back.
I just looked at all the pictures, another not to put one woman against another but they are SO much better than kate’s vogue cover. I’m usually not hard on kate (I think she has always done as much work as William wants her to do).
I wonder about the pregnancy announcement…Kate’s team said it was rolled out because she was cancelling things and they felt like they needed to explain, which I side eyed HARD…then this comes out…ooooh there’s the missing piece.
Or not. Carol was photographed leaving Kensington Palace looking super stressed yesterday. This was not, oh a wedding is going to take attention from my daughter stress, this was I’m concerned about her health stress. I’ve seen it on many family members of patients.
HG is very serious. And it’s got to be ghastly to be vomiting every hour. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
I’ve shared this on here before but I used to dine at a place where the Queen’s Personal Doctor would go very often. I was sat once at the table next to this Doctor, Carole Middleton, and a couple that must have been friends with Carole. This was during the first pregnancy and Carole was clearly stressed and nervous, and asking a decent amount of questions about HG. That’s really why I’ve never been able to believe Kate’s faking it.
However this Doctor was quite a charming snob and my favourite part of the whole thing was Carol mentioning she had a very hard time with parking, and the Doctor cooly replying that he always just parked at the Palace and walked over.
Oh, I believe she’s sick as a dog. I’m just saying to announce it that way and say it’s because she’s cancelling events…I’m sure she is…but the announcement…
Yeah, I think the HG is real, and I believe it might be very serious this go around.
@GiBee….thanks for that! Quite priceless….LMAO!
@Gibee: thank you! I love stories like this 🙂
HG is very serious. My sister had it (and decided that would be her only pregnancy due to it and adopted her second child) and she nearly died. She was dangerously dehydrated, weak, her heart rate was not stable (from dehydration maybe?), and she was throwing up so much and so violently all day (and sometimes all night) that she pulled muscles in her groin and back, was unable to keep any food down for months (so she lost weight her entire pregnancy despite her growing belly), and at times had to get IV fluids and even nutrition via tube. She was hospitalized more than a few times. It was awful. Also scary for us, the family members, too. I can see why she never wanted to get pregnant again. She was fine at first and then one day it seemed like it just kicked in and she dealt with it the rest of her pregnancy.
I’m sure Kate is happy not to be doing engagements, but in terms for looking for an excuse, this is definitely one she wanted.
I got really lucky. With my one pregnancy I had not even one incident of morning sickness.
Unfortunately royals this close to the throne can’t really adopt without extreme scrutiny. I think even a surrogate would be out of the question.
@ the mummy…I too lost a lot of weight during my first pregnancy though constant vomiting, I was almost skin and bone except for a protruding little tummy, so much so that one nurse could not hide her visible shock when she lifted the sheet to examine me.
@GiBee
Many thanks for the story! Any more? i.e., does Carole have a very clipped accent a la Kate?
Ooooh yes.. Now it makes sense. There’s about to be an engagement announcement and Waity probably didn’t want to be upstaged.
It’s fun to believe in conspiracy theories, but Occam’s Razor says:
Thirtysomething couple who have been dating for a while and are in love usually do get engaged.
Thirtysomething married women who have often spoken about wanting lots of kids usually do get pregnant.
Both the (soon to be announced) engagement and the pregnancy are as predictable as the sun rising. It’s not really a weird coincidence that a younger brother would be seriously dating someone at the same time the older brother is expecting a kid.
Yeah, I can buy Kate keeps having kids because she prefers motherhood to work, and she likely does not push herself to work when she’s feeling bad (realistically few people would soldier on if they didn’t have to, especially if they knew the world press might catch them vomiting). But she obviously just really likes having kids, and doesn’t want her kids too spaced out. It’s hardly like she could plan to get pregnant right before Meghan’s magazine article! I don’t believe for a second that she faked her pregnancies or faked being unwell, and it’s far more likely her current sickness forced them to announce before they wanted.
Wow. The RF doesn’t own her and she can do whatever she likes but I’m very surprised she’s on the VF cover. Wild about Harry… who approved that?!?!
Right? Tacky. And ‘wild’? What is it all about? Africa? (#blackhumor)
Tacky? The Queen, her corgis and her great grand children did a whole spread and a cover foR VF last year. And a lovely issue it was too.
Tacky? In what possible way is this tacky?! It’s not as if she sat down for an interview with the National Enquirer FFS.
And Meghan didn’t write the headline, the editors did. FWIW
I’m Just Wild About Harry is an old song from 1921. Per Wikipedia: “”I’m Just Wild About Harry” was the most popular number of the production, Shuffle Along, which was the first financially successful Broadway play to have African-American writers and an all African-American cast. The song broke what had been a taboo against musical and stage depictions of romantic love between African-Americans.”
Judy Garland also had a version that she sang. The lyrics are below…
Judy’s version was a blackface extravaganza, btw.
@Sage and Nik….you two have a lot of growing up to do…sigh ‘I’m just Wild about Harry’ is a brilliant old song that happens to be just perfect for this couple for many many reasons. In fact this song WILL be played either on their wedding day or at least on the eve of it, preferably by a marvellous brass band, because I KNOW! Wink! Wink! So all your comments about it being ‘tacky’, ‘Africa’ or black humour are way way off the mark. Do you homework and learn about this song and then you will know why it was the cover headline and will probably be used again and again during the engagement/wedding announcements. Even when Harry was a wee little boy I knew this song would be played at his wedding!
So I looked up the song, and you may be onto something as far as the title goes. It is very fitting, maybe the VF writers/editors were being cheeky…
I’m Just Wild About Harry
Peggy Lee
I am here to state
I’m here to relate
To explain
And make it plain that:
I`m just wild about Harry
And Harry’s wild about me;
The heavenly blisses of his
Kisses fill me with ecstasy.
He’s sweet just like sugar (chocolate) candy
And just like honey from a bee;
Oh, I`m just wild about Harry
And he’s just wild about,
He can’t do without,
He’s just wild about me
Oh I`m just wild about Mandy,
And Mandy’s wild about me
Oh, I`m just wild about Harry
And Harry’s wild about me.
The heavenly blisses of his kisses
Fill me with ecstasy.
He’s sweet just like sugar(chocolate) candy,
And just like honey from a bee;
Oh, I`m just wild about Harry
And he’s just wild about me.
@PrincessK, @Sylvia, Thanks for the lesson – I had no idea it was a song!
@PrincessK, was that song once featured in an episode of “Mad Men?” (If you watched that show.) Because it’s very familiar to me and now I can’t get the tune out of my head!
Love it! Love the cover photo. Love the boyfriend lines. Really hoping this means we’ll have a fabulous distraction from the non working Kate/baby show in the form of another crazy wedding.
I adore Meghan + Harry and I think this article was…ill-considered?
I’d be shocked if the PoW and her Majesty’s teams approved of this.
I’d be shocked if the RF in general were not behind this.
There’s been a growing definite push to introduce Meghan to this country. WA’s statement was the first tipoff. No way that did not come from the Queen’s people.
@Meggles – again, agree 100%. There is no way she and Harry would have done this without the Queen’s approval.
Neither of them are that stupid, and I also think that Harry genuinely does want to do the right thing and be respectful of his grandmother and of the institution.
I believe he has more of a sense of duty than his brother. Who apparently “surprised” Charles and the Queen with news of his engagement to Kate barely an hour before it was announced to the entire world.
Why Vanity Fair though?
GiBee, see my comment above… Graydon, the editor of VF, is Canadian like Trudeau, who is a friend of Meghan and Harry. VF has run noted royal articles before, one of former VF editor Tina Brown’s particular areas of interest. It has a certain level of intellectual/arts/international/style fame, so it is more proper than a tab or fashion rag.
Shades of Fergie. She will not be controlled.
Although it’s not People magazine-right? VF is way more “high brow.”
Ill considered is very diplomatic. Seems flat out stupid to me.
Lol *agrees*
I like her but I agree. Huge pr misfire. I thought she’d be more savvy than this.
The judgement I’m seeing here from some people is absolutely doing my nuts in.
“Oh, good heavens, she’s done ONE interview, how will we ever stop the sky from falling down???!!!”
Please. Lets get a grip.
She has got some really bad press in the last year especially from the likes of DM who clearly have an agenda to completely destroy her reputation as much as humanly possibly. It is absolutely right that she reset the tone on that before embarking on this journey with the Prince and an interview is one of many ways to do that.
For me, the important thing here is that O think Harry and her are absolutely suited to one another. I saw a long montage of interviews of her in YouTube as well as a Suits bloopers video and it’s clear to me that she probably has a very playful, irreverent personality – she laughs often and hard.
I can see how that would completely suit our wild child prince to a T. And to me, it’s the reason he’s been so decisive about this relationship from the very start. The rest is semantics.
Of course, they knew. lol
VF would have called to confirm everything and to try to get a quote from one of the senior royals. It seems they are trying to modernize.
On a superficial note: She’s gorgeous and I love that she’s wearing minimal makeup and their showing her freckles off instead of hiding them under a pound of makeup.
I think so too, I love her freckles! There’s something so cute and wholesome about freckles that makes me like Meghan even more.
*they’re
A wedding is coming.
There’d better be or she will look really really silly in a few months time!
Huh… let me stay silent on this one.
What difference does it make if it was four months or six months? Some people are not focused on stuff like.I don’t remember dates,anniversaries,etc Sometimes I don’t even get the right #of years.
The difference is whether or not there was overlap to the end of her relationship with that chef. Supposedly they broke up in May 2016 and were even living together. It’s sort of been accepted there was overlap and that’s why H&M have been trying so hard to push back the date they became official
It’s only been accepted because Tumblr stans keep stating it as fact.
The same way it’s been “accepted” that Sophie Cumberbatch was an escort (even though most people pooh pooh the fake blackmail marriage and plastic children thing) , or it’s “accepted” that Harry and Louis once had a fling (even though most people pooh pooh the secret committed monogamous true love and fake baby stuff).
Their split was officially confirmed weeks before she and Harry even met.
Who cares if there’s overlap. She wouldn’t be the first person who’d dated someone and met someone else while they were still dating.
She is very fame-hungry. She will love all the attention she will get, a la Amal Clooney: always looking for the cameras.
Agree 100%. Thirsty as h*ll.
@ IDKY, Bianca and CC20:
I don’t get thirsty and fame hunger from her at all. This is the first interview she’s ever given about him, EVER and I wish you could pinpoint something specific that you attribute this thought to.
I have to say though, you guys sound bitter and deeply cynical (sort of understandable in these very difficult times). Probably not how you mean to come across, but there we are.
😕😕😕
I can’t warm to her. She’s just too thirsty. Especially when she is spouting she’s in love with one side of her mouth, and wanting privacy with the other.
True that people who claim to want privacy don’t normally do magazine covers with a screaming title about their relationship.
Well she has to ‘come out’ at some time. Anyway the privacy stuff was actually about people stalking her and her mother and racist abuse.
I feel the same way!!!!! I feel like she loves this attention and she’s one of those women who makes everything about them. I don’t get a good feeling about this . Does she love Harry , or does she love the perks Harry brings?
I have no doubt Harry approved of this interview. Does that make him needy for attention, too? He had to know their relationship would be discussed. Are you also questioning the love between them or do you believe they’re dating each other for different, less personal reasons? Do you believe he doesn’t love her and is just using her? It appears that some people who are hung up on race, social status, envy or whatever, find it easier to believe the grown man is the victim in this relationship rather than these two people just might love each other.
Here’s the thing tho, if you truly don’t like attention you are an idiot for dating a royal.
How is she fame hungry and thirsty? Lol we see yall…
1. She is a D list actress on a small time show and even on that show she is the 3rd/4th string actress. An actress of that level would never ever get the Vanity Fair cover. In all honesty, we all know that she would never ever get the cover if she was not with PH.
2. She claims to want privacy and hopes the public understand their need to keep their relationship their own, but in he same breath mentions her “boyfriend” and that they are “two people who are really happy and are in love”.
Why not just give the interview to promote her show that she’s on as well as her charities and do not discuss her relationship with PH? Because she knows that’s not enough. The public doesn’t care about her without Prince Harry. Now nothing that is said in the article matters other than the 2-3 quotes she gave about her personal relationship.
Is that thirsty? Ummmm……. yeah, it is.
Er, she accepted the cover of a major publication, even though it was only offered because of her love life.
If you’re not looking for fame and a ton of attention, there’s zero reason to do that.
IDK, I just don’t see it that way at all.
She can both do a sanctioned interview like this, and at the same time, want privacy in the sense that she doesn’t want paps chasing her down in the streets a la Diana. I view it as a joint decision by her and Harry as part of her “rollout” since it’s pretty obvious an engagement is coming soon.
If they didn’t seem serious about each other and she did an interview like this to raise her profile so that she could get more acting jobs after they broke up, then yes, I would side-eye it too.
But it really seems to be part of a plan to “introduce” her as the BRF knows a wedding is coming. 🤷🏻♀️
Which is actually a plus as a Royal Duchess. It you don’t like the press attention you would be really miserable and ill suited for the role.
1. Being fame hungry or thirsty is not a bad thing! Why do stans act like it’s a terrible insult?
And no one ever complains about men doing the exact same things.
2. Plenty of people are in positions where they have to negotiate with the press over privacy. I have good actor friends who are forced to sometimes do things they would prefer not to. Both contractually, and because it’s a non-optional sacrifice if you want a career. Plus often making deals with the press allows you greater privacy and leverage when you need it..
3. Royals have arrangements with the press to pose for and release photos and certain info. It’s not optional. Once they marry she will have no choice.
4. There’s nothing you could say about Meghan that you could not say about any other Royal (or soon to be Royal). Diana was a million times more a fame-seeker!
5. Like it or not as a Royal Meghan will be a major public figure.
Lorelei: We can agree to disagree.
Why do you view this as a “rollout?” If they have plans for an engagement and an announcement is made, wouldn’t that be considered an official “rollout”? Why the need to go on a major publication and drop the word boyfriend and mention how in love they are? What is the gain from that except more attention, more publicity both of which she supposedly does not want because she is so “private”?
Just to be clear, I have nothing against people who seek publicity – ala Kim Kardashian. If that is who they are and what they want to do, sure go for it. What I have a problem is people who front it like they are so “private” and don’t want any intrusion on their personal lives, but then go and give an interview to talk about said personal lives – ala Wanna be PrIncess.
I never ever post on here (or anywhere really) but I’m here to just say… I totally agree with the thirst comments and I’m surprised I had to scroll down this far to find them! I guess cb is super pro-mm, but I don’t see the attraction, especially for someone who admitted to “wanting to be a princess” years ago. As I’ve said before, she pings me as being at the Taylor Swift end of the authenticity spectrum. Not saying Harry is a catch – I bet he’s a pain and she’s bent over backward to get this far… they probably deserve each other, I’m just not buying this as the love story of our time
@ Lizzie:
Clearly, you HEARD her admitting to “wanting to be princess”?
Pray tell, what else did she tell you? Tell us please, so we can all come to conclusions on her character, based on that.
@bellagio Lizzie was close..clearly I don’t care about this as much as you do, and your tone is pretty unfriendly. Again I’m new to commenting here, but not what I expected from this community.
I’m not interested in making character judgments – you’re making this a little too deep for a gossip blog, but it came out months ago she’d done a blog or something, I’m sure you can google it.
Well. her sister who has been proven to lie repeatedly said she wanted to be a princess.
Sorry, forgive me if I don’t take endorsemts from her on MM .
@ Lizzo
Babe, this lady gets a LOOTTTT of abuse online. If you want to pile on, you should be ready to take a little too, no?
I can’t help but like her at this point, she works ,has a personality and looks naturally fresh and elegant ( Old Kate is going to hate sharing the stage with this one ). Hope she remains unspoiled , Harry can be a bit of a whiner.
She’s a Northwestern grad so probably smart as well!
Is it just me that finds this really retrograde and embarrassing? I like Suits, but seriously, on her own she’s not even famous enough to get a blurb in VF, and engaged or not she has no role as a royal yet. So she got the cover solely because she’s the woman a prince is sleeping with. It’s weird and kind of depressing, and I’m really surprised she’s going down this route, because it’s a bad look.
Right? I know. It’s sad and ingenuine. 🙁
Why are you surprised she’s going down this route. She was a case girl on a game show. She’ll do anything. I don’t mind Meghan but this isn’t beneath her.
This is not her first VF cover, She was on the cover of Vanity Fair Mexico some months back….
So exactly like Diana then?
As a woman, and as an American, I think this is what bothers me as well. I had hoped that Meghan, a smart, independent woman, wouldn’t use who she is sleeping with to promote herself, or her career or her fame. And the though of her bowing to Kate makes me kind of ill.
I get that many Americans do have a very different mindset about this than the Brits on this site. Nancy Reagan would not bow to the Queen. Michelle Obama would not bow to the Queen. We independent Americans just don’t do this! We do NOT BOW TO ANYONE. It all leaves me with a weird feeling – in 2017, a very well-educated American actress gives it all up to move overseas to be with a lazy, entitled, basically unemployed guy who will give her fame, fortune and endless $$.
I get that part of being a woman in 2017 is being able to make up your own mind about who you marry, but these aspects of it give me the willies. Not a good role model for young girls.
love the cover with minimal make up, just showing of her natural beauty.
all the best for her, I hope she gets what she wants from this, both the interview and the relationship.
“Personally, I love a great love story.”
This sounded funny to me. I don’t know why.
I do think they’re engaged. I find giving an interview strange, simply because I’m not used to seeing this done by royal girlfriends, but maybe times are changing.
Edited to add:
After reading the article, maybe she’s getting a different kind of rollout because of the racism she faced by some of the media. Maybe this interview is preparation for the announcement. Doing press for being in a relationship with Prince Harry seemed a little less weird when I read the article in full. She did come across as interesting in the profile.
Yes time is changing this is a new era for the royal family. Those boys told the world their mother was overexposed hint paparazzi now his girlfriend is already in a cover of a magazine.
I have to admit I do find Harry’s approval of this spread contrary to William’s words of caution (i.e once you open yourself up to the media, you can’t close the door).
I am so confused as to why people can’t distinguish between a planned story like this and mobs of paparazzi stalking them every day.
Doing this interview isn’t at odds with wanting privacy in her private life, IMO.
William never, ever shuts up about privacy, and IIRC, he was also on a magazine cover (the Advocate?) just a few months ago.
Very well said Lorelai!
But if this really is a Buckingham Palace sanctioned roll out surely they would have made her do it with a British publication and not an American one?.
The article was a good one don’t get me wrong, but I’m surprised just how open she about mentioning Harry as her ‘boyfriend’ and details about her relationship. Hopefully her openness doesn’t come back to bite her.
Yeah, I don’t know what’s going on. The openness does seem weird but …yeah, I don’t know. Royal families seem more, er, royal, when they’re guarded, I think.
I realize both Charles and DIana talked to the media, but the circumstances under which they talked were different. By that point, they were both desperate to have their sides of the story heard. Neither seemed interested in letting down their guard when they thought they were in the marriage for the long haul. And, even then, the Queen had no idea how stupid either was being. Hence, the call to divorce after Diana’s interview on tv.
Yeah, I don’t know what’s going on here.
No, VF is one of the RF’s go-to publications.
Doing a British mag would seem too much like campaigning for approval from the British public. This way it’s still barely plausible that it’s in service of work obligations, while at the same time being in a publication that already has the trust & approval of the royal family. This is definitely part of a rollout. A precursor to her putting in an appearance at invictus next month.
Torn between whether this is the beginning of The Rollout or the beginning of The End for her. She sure sounds……overly confident. Maybe, too much.
Beginning of the rollout methinks.
No way this wasn’t approved. Probably the last interview she is allowed to give to bring that career to a close.
Absolutely spot on, this is the last semi risqué sexy actress/model photo shoot she is likely to do before she moves on. Future stuff will focus more on her as an ambassador for charities.
No, this is so un-classy. Sounds like some piece from Hello or The Sun, not VF.
YES! That’s it. I couldn’t put my finger on it, but the headline and all just seems so tabloid-grade.
Yup – imagine the headline, and put a “a close friends says” or “a source close to Meghan says” in front of any of her quotes and it would read like any People or E! fluff piece you see about her.
So every time Harry whines about privacy, I hope he remembers his girlfriend is on the cover of VF solely because she’s dating him.
Yes for working woman it just weird her Suit role did not put her on the cover of Vanity Fair but her super rich/prince boyfriend put her on the cover, how’s that working for girls power?
I am happy to support Meghan’s career, but I don’t want to hear a word from them about living a normal life or not having privacy.
Precisely.
Here’s a crazy thought. Maybe this is all leading to Harry stepping out of line to the throne and he and Meg will move to America.
I think that was the entire point of this interview: to acknowledge that they are in love, the relationship is very serous and expect something in the news soon. I don’t think they’re pretending it’s anything else.
She’s been on dozens of newspaper and magazine covers up to this point. The only difference here is she’s taking control of the narrative.
Great article. Crappy headline.
Its not a crappy headline, it is a play on a song….please read my explanation above, i must be a lot older than most of you..sigh! If you know the song you will understand the headline and get used toit because that headline will be used over and over again by the media in the run up to the wedding , so get used to it honey!
Yes, it’s as sophisticated as “The Bitter Tears of Jared and Ivanka”
Thanks @ PrincessK.. Appreciate the explanation to the headline as i had no idea it had a backstory.
Guess I’m showing my age (and someone mentioned this above), but when I saw the headline the first thing that came to my mind was the song that goes “I’m just wild about Harry and he’s just wild about me”. Thought it was cute and quirky.
It’s a cute song, but the use of it here is tacky.
Kind of like if VF had a cover of Kate, pre-wedding, with a headline saying ” Wontcha Marry Me Bill?”
I agree Suze, I understand the reference to the old song but I think the headline is tacky regardless. I don’t really understand the point of the article. She looks good on the cover though, very pretty and natural.
Trust me, ‘I’m Just Wild About Harry’ will be used over and over again in the run up to the wedding, and VF got in there with it first, so you guys need to get used to this lovely great American song. However, “Wontcha Marry me Bill’, is so so funny , I am still laughing 🙂 🙂
Wow. Well. She’s beautiful but that headline is tacky as all hell. It’s like Tiger Beat magazine. I hope the articles in the whole isn’t as cringe inducing as “some day we’ll have to come forward and present ourselves….”
I hope all this was approved by her new bosses or else she’ll find herself very much on the outside looking in from day 1 on the job.
It ain’t tacky and you don’t geddit I am afraid, and you obviously don’t know the brilliant 1920s song , ‘I’m Just Wild About Harry’. Go Meghan!! Go Harry!!
Really?
I am sure that this sophisticated reference will resonate with the VF readership- particularly the “Go Harry !!!! Go Meghan!!!!l” crowd.
But once they present themselves and their love story to the world I am sure I will geddit.
I know. It is a classic. My in laws love classics and they are romantic.
Love your response, Suze!! 😄 I geddit. 😜
Not only is it not “tacky” because it’s a clever play on a classic song, but as I mentioned above, it’s not as if Meghan wrote the freaking headline. That’s all up to the editor.
If people are latching on to a headline she had no say in as their objection to this article…well, it doesn’t seem as if there’s much substance to criticize. JMHO
I know Megan didn’t write it. I said the headline was tacky, and it is. Didn’t say she was tacky, I said she was beautiful. I swear her fan girls can’t handle any perceived criticism.
Silly song reference is purely stupid, but not her fault.
She looks gorgeous. That’s is a really pretty cover picture. Glad they did something simple and natural and didn’t try to make her look a princess.
She definitely has the ring.
Or it’s a way to force the Queen’s hand in to giving permission for them to marry. I don’t think she can refuse now that its out there that they are madly in love.
I don’t know…I don’t see Harry as being that manipulative.
Say what you want about his youthful indiscretions, but I believe he loves and respects his grandmother, and would not do something like this without her knowledge and approval.
I never want to hear them complain about privacy again. I have nothing against her but I find this cover story very bizarre. A) Why would you disclose anything regarding your relationship to a magazine? B) I would be shocked if the other royals did not find this nauseating or slightly opportunistic. C) There was zero reason to do this. If she was not on a television show, why would you even do this? I don’t know. I find this all very odd.
She had to talk about the relationship. VF would never have given her the cover if she didn’t. She loves attention and her boyfriend loves whining about attention…guess that makes them a perfect match.
+1
I don’t care about her or Harry (he is Normal Bill jr., just with better PR) but if she continues to give interviews like these, they (the public, the royals) will start tearing her apart. That was IMO a really dumb move.
Did Chelsea or Cressida ever do this? Give an interview about their relationship with Harry? Cause it sounds like that was the entire point of the interview, certainly not about Meghan’s acting career.
It’s the beginning of the end. All the privacy she was going to have as a royal is her thoughts and opinions, and she just gave that, thinking she was going to enjoy the attention.
Once the press follows her every move and comments on everything she does, once she can no longer go out without being photographed, she’s going to wish she had kept something for herself.
Wow – this makes Waity’s Vogue cover look even more boring and bland.
I don’t think this is a fair comparison. Catherine was already a royal and doesn’t have the freedom Meghan does. This is a nice cover though except the ‘Wild About Harry’ headline; that’s tacky.
Diana was a royal and didn’t look bland in her magazine covers. Kate just has no style and never did. It’s not like the Queen told her to be styled with thick eyebrows. In fact the article itself said how much Kate was deciding in terms of wardrobe and styling.
And the Wild About Harry title is from a Peggy Lee song… PrincessK pointed that out and reading the lyrics it makes a lot of sense.
I am with Nic919. The reaction here is very curious to me. Some of the same people who complain about how hard we are on Waity are tetchy about Megan.
Diana was not a royal when she did her Vanity Fair cover
@Nic919
It’s still tacky even if it is from a Peggy Lee song. Meghan is an actress and I expect her to be more photogenic, charismatic and styled better. Her appearance is her job first and foremost.
Please do more research on the song ‘I’m Just Wild About Harry’, it goes much deeper than Peggy Lee. I don’t want to bore you all here with the details of the history of the song but I found the background info deeply interesting as a non Americans…wink.
“We’re a couple,” she explains. “We’re in love. I’m sure there will be a time when we will have to come forward and present ourselves and have stories to tell, but I hope what people will understand is that this is our time. This is for us. It’s part of what makes it so special, that it’s just ours. But we’re happy. Personally, I love a great love story.”
Love that she says this, it really doesn’t matter what the haters and racist think. Meghan and Harry are in love and together.
I thought that was great too. Right now, their relationship belongs to them and no one else.
So why did she talk about it in a international publication, with all the We are in love, and We are happy????
Methinks Meghan talks out of both sides of her mouth.
I read that line and thought. ” BOOM”.
Haters are gonna hate.
I loved it. It sends a crystal clear message to the disgusting, racist assho!es that she is a part of Harry’s life and isn’t going anywhere.
Their heads are all probably exploding as I type this, so it’s a good thing their opinions don’t matter even one iota to Harry or anyone else involved. 🙂
Except by definition, talking about it to a widely circulated publication makes it not just ‘theirs’. It opens the doors. If you aren’t looking to do that, you don’t go near a cover story like this with a barge pole.
I see what you’re saying. But I guess I find her comments to be so broad and vague; it’s not as if she gave tons of specifics about how they spend their time together, places they frequent, anything like that. She basically just confirmed the relationship is serious.
Right, but she did that in a big cover story she only got because she’s ‘Prince Harry’s girl’.
If she’d said this in a normal Suits related interview, then that would make sense. But she’s participating in this big spread in a big magazine that’s 100% only happening because of her relationship. You can’t do that while also claiming you’re keeping said relationship private. Doing press that’s built entirely on your relationship status is the very opposite of keeping it for yourself.
Circulation is only 1.2 million and their website 14 million a month. We are not talking about loads of people reading this article. Some people are over estimating the impact of this article.
I think it is adorable and in your thirties you know what u want. Everyone talks about Harry’s ex’s and they were very young and not equipped to handle the RF.
LOVE that they’re showing her freckles!
Wow. She is simply stunning on that cover.
Forget the cover, this behind scenes video is absolutely fabulous
https://thescene.com/watch/vanityfair/behind-the-scenes-of-meghan-markle-s-vanity-fair-cover-shoot-2017-09-05
oooh…love the article,shes so gorgeous. Im convinced they are engaged because no way this wasnt approved,the roll out has begun.The chances of seeing both of them together at Invictus has increased.Those that hate her would still hate her.heck! she was rarely seen these past months and some accused her of doing anything to become a duchess so i doubt her being quiet was going to change anything.DO you Meghan.i wish them the best!
Can you imagine Kate giving an interview like this during the Waity years? Did Sophie give interviews? I think Harry is blinded by love, and approved this or went along with it, but I am dying to know what the other senior royals think, esp. William and Charles.
Kate was and is a cipher. Her engagement interview had to be severely edited and to this day she has yet to say anything of substance. Six going on seven years later this is pathetic for an adult woman.
Meanwhile Meghan is a fully realized 36 year old woman, with a career and ideas of her own. She may not be perfect, but she is far more relatable because she never based her entire life around catching a prince.
I think meghan looks confident and beautiful on the cover of VF.I don’t understand how people call a woman who has graduated from northwestern, supported herself without depending on her parents,has a history of charity work prior to harry as thiristy is mind boggling. If anyone was ever thirsty it was kate during the waity years while chasing william.Harry might have given meghan the okay to mention him .I think we are gonna get an announcement soon and i can’t wait for the wedding .
William and Charles have no room to advise anyone on choosing suitable women or how to handle the media.
@ Mimi Would you like me to drop your mic for you?
lol
🙂
BOOM!
What an idiot the queen definitely didn’t approve this this is to force her hand nothing more I guess the blinds were true they really don’t approve I say Harry and her overplayed their hand good luck with that if it had been approved it certainly wouldn’t be in vanity fair
No way the Queen didn’t know about and approve this. VF is a royal mouthpiece.
I bet they’ve been engaged for ages.
The Blinds all come from butthurt Harry stans.
Sure she did and she greenlit the sultry shoot too can pigs fly also. The queen didn’t know or approve of the statement but she knows about this, good one.
@Tim
If this shoot is sultry I don’t know what century you still live in lol.
Tim you’re hilarious right from your lack of sentence structure and your clear insider knowledge of the BRF to your puritanical pearl-clutching. Thanks for the laff!
None of this is as bad as when Kate flashed her thong during more than one royal tour so Meghan has a lot more skin to show if she is going to compare to that icon of princessness.
Wow. Most celebs say “no comment” or instruct interviewers not to ask about their relationship. She took the interview knowing her relationship would be a big focus and not just about the show (and I doubt she would get a VF cover without dating Harry, though she didn’t have to talk about it). It comes off as fame-hungry, but I’m guessing they’ll be announcing an engagement soon–when the baby news fades. It is protocol for royal girlfriends to not speak to the press about their relationship. Yikes, this comes off the wrong way (and she sounds a bit pretentious but I guess you have to be if you’re marrying into this family).
Exactly! I know that people on Celebitchy love her but just because she’s not an English rose doesn’t mean she is not fame hungry and without faults. I think she’s smart. If relationship with Harry doesn’t work she already had her VF cover and it’s a great beginning. She’s loving the attention.
No, @ liriel, from what I read, the interview was mostly about her and her work. A few lines on Harry, but of course that’s what has gotten the biggest headlines so….
Nah, it comes across as Meg and Henry deciding together to speak about their relationship. You seem to have issue with it.
I’d prefer a joint cover then. This interview was basically about.. a prince? And yeah, I love that Kate never spoked about William and wanted to snag a prince but didn’t need all the attention. *I know, comparitions*
@liriel
A joint cover would have been a major faux-pas since it would basically confirm the engagement rumors. Pace yourself, the announcement is coming in it’s due time. That’s why it’s called a roll-out, gotta get the ball rolling first. 😀
She would not be on the cover if not for her current relationship. Simple as that.
So even if they discussed her work, she would not have had the opportunity to do so if she did not also discuss what got her the interview and cover in the first place.
No opinion one way or the other about her or the relationship. Yet once again I find myself missing the days of Carolyn Bessette and Jackie O. I much prefer a glimpse of truly stylish women living life on the down-low to all the endless preening and posing and yakking that we generally get from celebrities and celebrities-by-association. You can have privacy if that’s what you really want. A VF cover and interview is ample evidence of a contrary desire.
Oh yeah, you made me feel nostalgic. That era is gone..
I loved Jackie O. too, but she was a preener as was Carolyn.
Jackie K used to be a journalist and knew how to play the game. She didn’t want paps getting shots of her and her kids that she couldn’t control but had no problem doing photo-shoots with her kids.
Once Jackie became a private citizen, I don’t think she ever did a magazine shoot. The only shoots I’ve seen of her are from her husband’s time as a politician when she was most likely advised by her husband’s campaign team to them in order to help him win the Presidency. Once he was assassinated, she gave only one interview to carve his legacy, and after that she seemed to live a genuinely private life.
Holy loads of comments! Lol. So great. I can’t think of half the things said above so that’s interesting to consider.
I’m going with she’s engaged or about to be and knows it, this is prep for the public so there isn’t a backlash a la Wallis Simpson, and setting the tone of days to come. Agree Harry would know and approve of this and I bet he ran it past William at least if not also the Queen.
She’s a beautiful, smart, healthy woman and Harry deserves a kind hearted, strong good partner in love. I’m happy for them. She’s a breath of fresh air for the BRF and all of us too.
After enduring the Summer of Diana and having to relive all of those awful memories, I would think the Queen (and Charles as well) would find this to be refreshing and a much more modern approach to introducing Meghan to a wider audience in an open, positive way.
They learned from Diana’s death that they needed to show that they were actually human beings who experience and show some emotion in order to connect with the public.
ETA: It is ridiculous, IMO, that Kate has been in the public eye for a decade now and we know absolutely nothing about her as a person. We’ve barely heard her speak more than a few sentences – ever. To me that is creepy AF and she shouldn’t be held up as some standard for Meghan to look up to.
But… but… we know she likes to sketch and make chutney! What more do you want from her??? 😉
Agree completely re your 1st Par. This is definitely an official and approved roll-out and it’s refreshing and very cleverly done. This is clearly a done deal and she and Harry, if not actually already engaged, will certainly be in due course.
Kate has been a regression to how women were in the Victorian era and for her to be praised about it is completely bizarre unless you are anti feminist. Kate has no voice, shops and breeds. Wow. way to be a modern princess.
I am happy for them and think all the pearl clutching about a Vanity Fair cover is just ridiculous. She didn’t plan this in some imaginary clandestine operation to score a VF cover all on her own.
Where do people get these ideas about class and aristocrats? This isn’t 1900, and she isn’t treading the boards in Covent Garden. The biggest snobs I have ever met in my life are middle-class social mountaineers embarrassingly mimicking the upper class. Not actual people who are upper class. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that his friends like her as well as the BRF.
Give her chance. She can’t be worse than the lazy Kate.
The pearl-clutching is hilarious! Smelling salts sales must be through the roof.
NO worse than the pearl clutching over the Cambridge school run., right? Or the idea that Kate mean-girled Beatrice 14 years ago?
She isn’t even engaged to him or married or being supported by the taxpayers. He likes women who are glamorous, charismatic, pretty with a lot of personality. Chelsy and Cressida did plenty of press and both were photographed constantly.
A school run that makes many people’s lives more difficult earns criticism. Ditto a woman 7 and 9 years older than the York princesses bullying them – she earned that criticism. Criticism not pearl clutching.
They are clearly engaged; good for them.
She’s absolutely lovely and fresh-faced. Freckles rule! 🙂
I think she gets a pass for everything she does just like Kate gets blamed for everything she does and doesn’t. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Honestly, if H & M break up/divorce I see her giving another interview. She built a brand. Chelsey Davy for all her faults remained private. The other girlfriends as well. I think Meghan has taken 100% Hollywood route. I don’t condemn it, just don’t like it.
Also, without his title Harry would not be a catch but come on, he’s a prince. He’s a great catch.
I agree mostly.
If after they marry, and she doesn’t get it together then she will deserve plenty of criticisms. Kate waited for Will for years before marrying him and then was engaged for a year or so before getting married. After the wedding, she had plenty of goodwill, but 6 years later, she still hasn’t earned her family order.
We really don’t know much about her.
Yeah, we’ll see. I think since she’s an actress she’ll love the attention so maybe it’ll put it to good use. Btw, I think Kate is lazy but we’d never know how much if William proposed to her when they graduated from uni. She’d never have the opportunity to work and would never be labelled Waity Kaity.
@liriel
I am one of her critics but the person who deserves the lionshare is Wills. He does not help her. She needs goodwill much more than he does. She flounders constantly and no one seems to try to help her.
But it doesn’t excuse doing more work. If she did I would think her problems with fashion were nothing because she would be substantive.
I said in another thread maybe they will be friends. That would be nice but I was shot down on that idea, lol
Yes, but this woman is 36 years old and doesn’t have decade to hang around like Kate.
Yeah, i came into this treat hoping I will finally get interesed in the privileged out of touch royals and their love lives or their partners. Not happening. Still boring as watching paint dry
Can someone enlighten me about Royal etiquette please? Is Megan seriously going to have to CURTSEY to Kate? How incredibly awkward!
Yup. And that is one of the things that make me disappointed in Meghan: an educated, successful, adult American woman curtsying to the likes of Kate. I don’t hate Kate, but we Americans do not curtsy to anyone.
@Sarah, oh please. Let’s not with the whole, “We’re AMERICANS, we don’t DO THIS,” stuff. American interest in the BRF is most likely the one thing that’s keeping them afloat at this point. We both know that there are dozens of Americans who would line up to curtsy to Kate. Or the Queen. Insisting otherwise is weirdly ignorant at this point.
Sarah, it is what it is. Americans love the royal family and if they didn’t millions of Americans wouldn’t have stayed up to watch Kate’s wedding. Take it easy.
It is one of the rules of the job, should she choose to accept it. Nothing to get up in arms over.
Look at this famewhore! Proof that she is in it for the press. If they get married the divorce will be wild. Can’t stand her. Everything about her strikes me as superficial and vapid. I don’t like Harry either so I’m glad he’s ending up with someone as shallow as he is. Ha!
Jeezuz…anger issues much?
@ Jo:
You can’t stand her? Quick, someone send round an intervention team to stop Harry flinging himself off a cliff! 🙄🙄🙄
Please relax you sound judgmental and bitter.
I think Meghan (and the BRF, let’s be honest) deciding she should do this interview is probably a tacit admission that she’s got some horrendous press so far. This is their attempt at correcting the narrative somewhat and introducing her to the public on her own terms.
Jo Carole there are much better ways to express your frustration.
Well, @Jo that’s sorted then 🙁
Not!
She looks very pretty on the cover.
Word around TO is she’s a major social climber. Yup she’s going to save the monarchy!
Word from the two tumblr queens, neither of whom lives in Toronto? One even outed herself as a retiree who lives in a trailer park in Florida.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with her (i.e she’s educated, savvy, seemingly smart, well-groomed, beautiful, etc.)
I think I’m just a little surprised that an actress might marry into the British royal family. The American aspect isn’t what’s surprising to me, but the actressy stuff. I know Harry is 5th or 6th in line so it doesn’t matter so much in his case what her profession is, but since he’s half-Diana I suppose I still think of him as the spare. Maybe I had it in my head that he might be bound by some outdated traditions where he was could marry anybody (well, not someone from Honey Boo Boo’s family or anything) but an actress.
This is the first time I think I’ve seen a royal girlfriend take the lead in how she’s presented to the media, so I think she’s kind of interesting in that regard. I desperately want to know what William’s reaction to her is like.
Lord Frederick Windsor married Sophie Winkelman from 2 1/2 men.
Kate’s got a kindred spirit in her. Between the two of them, think of all the kitschy Christmas chutney the Queen can expect from now until kingdom come!
I will say this. I think the interview is impeccably done. For some lay folks who weren’t invested in this relationship from the get go, it’ll confirm everything they dislike about Meghan. But for me, all of it was soooo good. Like, Swifty levels of good. The quotes from the different sources (Serena Williams was absolutely inSPIRED, but also her fashion/stylist friend who gave that “timeless” quip), the quotes from various articles that Meghan herself has written. The fact that a good chunk of interview WAS about the show, but not about the show persay. The whole thing with her freckles.
Step aside Waity, there’s a new girl on the block who’s going to open the door with a baby on her hip. Except she’s going to have her hair pulled up in a messy bun that still looks good and warm, fresh biscuits in the oven for the guests.
I can’t recall where I saw it, but when Harry and Meghan started hitting the gossip pages it was reported they met or started hanging out in April 2016. Why would she have to be coy with dates? Who cares if there was overlap. She wasn’t married. Free to date whomever she wants. Also I believe they are ready to announce an engagement and maybe the VF article was meant to coincide but Kate’s news had to come first so Meghan and Harry have to wait. Get used to it kids! Bill and Cathy will always work it to have the spotlight on them even though Meghan and Harry are far more interesting.
Because she was dating someone when she met him? And probably dumped her ex for Harry.
If she did dump her live-in boyfriend for Harry it doesn’t make her look good regardless of what anyone says. She already has a mark against her name because she dumped her ex-hubby after less than 2 years of marriage. These two examples give the impression that she cannot commit and isn’t a stable choice for such a high profile marriage. That’s why the question of a possible overlap is being brought up.
Perhaps you saw it on tumblr, which is where that “news” originated? From what was available publicly before the news about Harry hit, she and the chef broke up in May. She was in London in July 2016 for work, which is when these two met probably through a Eugenie connection.
I can’t recall where I saw it, but when Harry and Meghan started hitting the gossip pages it was reported they met or started hanging out in April 2016. Why would she have to be coy with dates? Who cares if there was overlap. She wasn’t married. Free to date whomever she wants. Also I believe they are ready to announce an engagement and maybe the VF article was meant to coincide but Kate’s news had to come first so Meghan and Harry have to wait. Get used to it kids! Bill and Cathy will always work it to have the spotlight on them even though Meghan and Harry are far more interesting.
+1000
Meghan will be a much better princess than the lackluster blob known as Kate.
Would she get the Princess title though? Fergie didn’t.
She’ll be a Duchess, not a Princess.
Diana was The Princess Charles, Sarah was The Princess Andrew, Sophie is The Princess Edward, Kate is The Princess William – those are all one of their official titles. Whomever Harry marries will have the The Princess Henry as one of her titles, but as it will be a lower title, she’ll go by whatever his highest title is (likely Duke).
I think I got the “The’s” right. I always forget married vs. divorced and the “The’s”