I’m not sure why I didn’t predict this. I apologize, because this one caught me slightly off-guard – and now I think there might be something to it. Last week, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie and their six kids went off on a little working holiday to Africa. While Brad and the kids stayed somewhere in Kenya, Angelina spent one day at a refugee camp on the Somalia-Kenya border. When she came back to her family, she picked up Zahara and Shiloh, and took them to Ethiopia to scout locations for an official Zahara Jolie-Pitt malaria and HIV/AIDS clinic. Or so the story played out last week.
This week, it seems like the whole “scouting clinic locales” was nothing but an excuse for a good ol’ fashioned baby-adoptin’. So Star Magazine says – they’re claiming that Angelina visited an orphanage in Ethiopia, and now she’s ready to add to the Jolie-Pitt clan:
“Angelina really bonded with this one little girl,” says an insider, explaining that Angelina first laid eyes on the 3-year-old during last week’s visit. “There were actually three kids who tugged at her heartstrings, but she absolutely fell in love with this child.”
Angelina’s not the only one smitten. “Shiloh and Zahara hugged the little girl as they were leaving… Angie said it was so sweet, and she’s determined to make her part of the family.”
Unfortunately, Brad Pitt is the major obstacle. “He’s dead set against another adoption right now and really flipped out on Angie when she told him… he thinks she isn’t being practical.”
But a second source tells Star, “Angelina isn’t asking Brad if they should adopt again, she’s telling him.”
The fight turned especially nasty when Brad accused her of being “like a kid in a pet store, wanting all the cute puppies… She screamed at him that these weren’t dogs that needed a place to live, they were children. She was livid!”
A few days later, when Brad was headed out to Spain, Angelina backed out of the trip to retaliate. “She flat-out refused to go along. Angie doesn’t want to support him if he won’t support her.”
“Brad is exhausted and just can’t handle it right now… he begged Angie to reconsider and revisit adopting in a year or so.”
“Angelina made it absolutely clear this is going to happen as soon as possible,” continues the insider. Why the rush? Angelina made a promise to Zahara that they would find her another sister from Africa, reveals the pal. “She intends to keep her word.”
“Angelina has already started the paperwork, and everything’s moving forward. She’s going to get this child, with or without Brad’s help.”
[From Star Magazine, print edition, October 5 2009]
Obviously, I realize Star did this story a certain way because they wanted it to really be about “Brad and Angelina have been fighting non-stop for four-and-a-half years, why did they ever get together” stuff. But I think Star missed the point on something that may have a grain of truth – that Angelina probably wants to adopt again, and is probably already visiting orphanages. I think that may be true because it seems to be her (and Brad’s) m.o. About a year after adopting Zahara, she gave birth to Shiloh. A year after Shiloh, they adopted Pax. A year after Pax, Angelina had the twins. The twins are more than a year old – so it seems reasonable to me, time-wise, that they are considering it. She and Brad could have even visited orphanages while they were in Kenya, for all we know.
As for the idea that Brad’s the one holding back – he’s the one that spent the last year talking about how he wants even more kids. Also – for the alleged quote attributed to Brad saying Angelina wanted all of the “cute puppies” – all I could think about was “all of the cute gerbils”. In Star’s next story, they should have Brad screaming at Angelina, “No more babies – from now on, we’ll just adopt gerbils, you bitch!”
Here’s Angelina with the kids in New Orleans on October 6th, credit Bauer Griffin. Header with the kids visiting an art store on October 4th, 2008. Credit: Fame.
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The fighting issue seem to be non-sensical. In interviews a few years ago BP claimed 8-10 was the number they had in mind.
Adopting a child that would be a sister/playmate to Zahara/Shiloh seems to make sense.
Here is a possible problem, first the two older boys have each other, as do the twins, put three little girls together, (or boys), and look for the inevitable two against one = )
Empress Z with the side-eye…LOVE it!
That’s Angelina with half the kids you mean. They have six already… are they trying to compete with the Duggars?
Seriously, though. I don’t usually believe any of the Brad/Angie=BIGFIGHT stories, but there comes a point when parents can be over-extended. 6 kids under 10 is stressful, even for saints. If they add another one now, there will be fights soon I’ll wager.
Firestarter, the lottery promised me $200 million and i’m still waiting.
@TruthSF-Well, Hellloooooo friend! I ahve some “investment” opportunities for you! *wink*
The answer was: of course mommy will buy another for you!
I think she has the cajones to do this adoption without him. She seems ballsy enough.
Definitely think she has an addictive personality and now it’s with adpoting children. BUT, being addicted to adopting kids is much better than, say, cutting or throwing up.
if she changes her mind and choose a 28 year old brazilian girl I’m up for it!! It would be nice to sit at my daddy Brad Pitt’s lap!
“I think she has the cajones to do this adoption without him. She seems ballsy enough.”
while I don’t think this story is true, you’re absolutely right. she adopted Maddox without Billy Bob Thornton’s “permission”.
I think they should adobt from China this time. Or Japan. Maybe Brazil, Egypt, why go back to the same place you’ve already been. I say adopt one in every county! The French, German, Swiss and Russian orphans need your love too Saint Angie.
(I have no problem with people adopting-in fact I applaud it, I just can’t figure out how they have enough time for all of their children without neglecting some of them at least some of the time.)
It’s funny how everyone bitches about the Duggars having more children, whom they take care of, and all these other celebs popping out babies right and left, but no one has a problem with the Jolie -Pitts adopting/having more children.
Now I know I will get the old: ‘ well, they are adopting children from other countries, helping, blah blah blah” or “They aren’t bringing more kids into the world, yadda yadda yadda” or ‘they have the money to do it” But seriously, why is it okay for them to have a big family and have children and no one says a word, but god forbid anyone else gets knocked up or adopts and people say it all for “attention” or how dare they add another kid to the brood.
Such double standards when it comes to this family.
Firestarter – because they can afford it. They arent on the Jon&Kate/Octomom freebie wagon.
So tired of these tabloids and their jealous hens making up these stories about Brad and Angie. Than God Brad and Angie don’t read this crap. What is so funnt is that all these crazy tabloid stories only seem to make the tabloids look more foolish every day as Brad and Angie lead their lives. 5 + years and these rags like IT and Star and L & S are still at it.
Excuse me Elusive, did my post say anything about Octomom or Jon and Kate? I was specifically speaking of the Duggars, who before the show they had, took care of their children quite well with their jobs and no hand outs, and I was also speaking of the outrage over Heigel adopting a child from Korea and so many said it was for publicity and that she should have adopted from the U.S because there are needy children here looking to be adopted, and that there was no need to go to a foreign country to get a child. That was what I was speaking about, not Octomom or Jon and Kate, although I am not sure what your problem would be with Jon and Kate profitting from their show is, after all, don’t Pitt and Jolie profit/make money from being on the big screen? As long as Jon and Kate want to pimp out there kids and make money from it and pay their bills that way, what’s the difference? Didn’t the Pitts pimp out photos of their kids for charity AND keep some of the money for themselves? Jon and Kate don’t get any more freebies than the rest of Hollywood with their hands out. They are totally a different breed from Ocotomom.
i don’t like her. beeecause:
there are so many kids who need to be adopted and she filled her family with 3 biological kids instead of adopting 3 children who do already live on this planet. i think that’s not good. look at the children who are already on this planet and don’t reproduce like a bunny (i think that about every person who got a biological child instead of adopting).
people who want to be parents are so selfish. they don’t think about the enviroment…and how harmful so many human beings are on this planet. they just think about…do i have enogh money…do i want to be a mother/father bla instead of asking theirselves…is it necessary to put another one on this planet instead of adopting ( i know it’s the hard way…).
Zahara needs someone in the family who looks like her.
Can you imagine what the twins look like? A little Brad walking around by now and another blue-eyed blonde Viv being hidden away.
Maddox has a special relationship to Angie since he was her first.
And Pax? Who knows anything about him.
I think it’s all for “show” trying to present a good image for people (maybe she wants to outdo Madonna) – she’s reacting from “emotional” rather than being sensible and rational – these kids are human beings not puppies in the pet shop window.
I can’t remember the exact source, but after adopting Pax, Angelina said in an interview that the next child would be from an African country, because she wanted Zahara to have another sibling with the same ethnic makeup, since Maddox and Pax had one another, and Shiloh looked like her and Brad. She said she didn’t want Miss Z to feel like an outsider in her own family, so if this turns out to be true, it’s not some completely out of nowhere whim, but something that’s been percolating for a while.
Firestarter, I’d add Madonna to the list too. People harped on her to a surprising degree for her adoptions.
Will the insanity of this Praying Mantis posing as a human being never end?
Firestarter, a lot of people were also praising the Duggars for having so many children without goverment assistance, so the argument can go both ways. My issue with the Duggars is that the older children take care of the younger children and that’s not fair. And the Gosselins’ got everything for free including a van and a house that was donated to them (the one before the mansion), so I don’t think it’s fair or accurate to compare how the Jolie-Pitt’s finance their lifestyle with how the Gosselins do. Brangelina are millionaires from their acting and sponsorships, not because they had children. The Gosselins’ claim to fame is that she squeezed six kids out at a time, and without that she’d be working as a nurse and he’d be an IT guy.
As for Brangelina, I hope they do adopt another black child because I think it’s important for Zahara to have someone in her family who looks like her and can understand/relate to what she will go through as a black girl/woman. That being said, I’ll take this story with a grain of salt just like all the others.
I think the difference is that in particular relationship, financial success isn’t contingent upon the children. I guess they’re not ostensibly spending their chidren’s money, and spending it far too quickly.
-Cameras in the home
-Multi-year television contract, etc.
Whatever’s in the future is speculation and none of our business, but to date, there isn’t any record of these parents completely denigrating each other to everyone who will listen. I think that we can say objectively that it’s a matter of media savvy and the neophytes are separated from the veterans very quickly.
Public opinion aside (from either camp), what’s quantitative? 6-7 is not nearly as big as 19-20–ask your magistrate.
This sounds like a bunch of made up garbage. How would you even know any of this happened in the privacy of their own home? Ridiculous.
Jeez, all I said is that I cannot understand why people rag on Heigel, Madonna ( Thanx Princess Pea for reminding me)and people like the Duggars for having big families or adopting from foreign countries, yet praise the Jolie – Pitts for adopting from foreign lands and having children biologically.
I am no fan of Jon and Kate, and I never made any comment at all about Octomom.
It just seems that the Jolie-Pitts get a pass on everything- adopting, large family, blabbing about the environment, while flying everywhere in private jets and infidelity, while other celebs get raked over the bloody coals for the same thing.
For the record, I do not care if they adopt, use up precious resources and cheat like drunken sailors on leave. Good for them that they can do it, but don’t preach how horrible others are when they do it.
Pax is rocking that look. There’s mad style pouring off that kid. Goodbye, Zahara. Pax is my new favorite, Jolitt.
“Definitely think she has an addictive personality and now it’s with adpoting children. BUT, being addicted to adopting kids is much better than, say, cutting or throwing up.”
Ummm yeah, for the addict. What about the kids? Addictions are always about an ambivalent attachment. Add to it that these adopted kids are likely to already have attachment problems, this is horrible. I’d personally much prefer that addicts keep their self-destruction away from very vulnerable children.
Firestarter it was you who brought these families to this topic to use them as justification for u speak badly about the Jolie Pitt family. People can like or not the JP even if they are not hurting anyone or speaking badly of someone you ALWAYS find something as insignificant to COMPLAIN
I think they are just trying to recreate Noah’s Ark, two of each kind. It is pretty obvious that all these multiple adoptions are now done mainly for media attention and public praise for Bradangelina. The novelty of these adoptions has faded more and more with each child, when Angelina Jolie first adopted Maddox it was purely because she had bonded and cared for the child and the same can be said for Zahara but after Pax, it looked like they just wanted to adopted purely to match each child they already have. Pax just looks so out of place to me, like he is there just to keep Maddox company so he has someone to play with and that looks like him and now it is Zahara’s turn. That is not good enough reason to keep adopting. I am not say they don’t love all their children but….
I would not be surprised if they adopt a Black child. I suspect they were looking at that when AJ got pregnant. When they had twins it really knocked the balance off. Zahara is getting old enough now that she may have noticed how much the African kids looked like her and wanted someone else in her family who looks like her.
Umm. I think I’m going to disagree that AJ/BP only ever get tons of praise.
Have we not seen the many many skits about AJ the baby collector?
This is how I’m choosing to look at it: This child already exists. There’s a high chance that she won’t live to her teens due to the dire conditions in Africa.
So is it so terrible that a woman with means wants to give her a chance? We do not know and cannot ever know for certain that as a result of this child, another pre-existing j-p kid is going to get neglected. We have no idea what goes on in that house.
Just like we have no idea what goes on in anyone’s house. I mean, as we speak, there are families all over the world selling their daughters into slave trade, or beating their children. All awful things that people choose to gloss over. But AJ! That BITCH. How dare she try to help another kid?
I’m not saying she doesn’t have a “problem” (though I am disinclined to use that word because of the connotations). But it seems to me that her big problem is a bleeding heart. And I can kinda understand that. I myself don’t want that many kids, but you can bet your bupkis that if I had enough money, I’d have a ranch full of rescues. (Not comparing dogs to kids, I’m just saying for myself.)
@ Firestarter – you’re not the only who feels that way. Plus, for me, there is just something about AJ that always comes across as fake. It’s like that old saying about those who try to convince the world they have such a great life, relationship, existance – that they really don’t. AJ and BP seem to always try to sell the fact that they are wonderful. Don’t brag, just “be”.
I like that these children are being adopted, but I’m not impressed with this couple on a whole. It will take me a hell of a lot longer just to adopt ONE child than it’s taken them to adopt how many now? Three or four? The same rules that apply to celebrity adoptions to apply to “commoners” who wish to adopt as well. It’s so annoying.
Firestarter – I actually have to disagree with you that the Jolie-Pitts get a ‘free pass’
To me, it seems like they are criticized more strongly and for pretty much everything they do.
Besides Aniston, nobody gets more negative tabloid coverage than this family!
With Madonna’s adoption, she went around the law… A law that every person who isn’t Madonna has to follow and that pisses people off.
I’d say the JPs are definitely in a different league than the Gosselins or Duggars. Even if these kids are not spending as much time with Brad or Angelina as an only child would, they have paid caretakers, nannys, bodyguards et cetera to keep them taken care of, which is different than in the Duggar family where kids take care of kids.
I think its more appropriate to compare the Jolie-Pitts to Mia Farrow, who has adopted something like 13 or 14 children, and had a few biological ones along the way. She also very strongly advocates for charities and aid to refugees and third world countries. You never see people criticize Mia Farrow. Aside from Soon-Yi, all her kids seem well adjusted and normal and one of her sons has turned out to be a genius who devotes his time to global causes.
Mimi- I did NOT bring up Ocotmom or Jon and Kate, another poster did, so please read things carefully before commenting.
Where did I speak badly about the Jolie-Pitts in this thread? I stated a fact that there are a series of double standards that goes with this family, how is that bad?It is a comment,simple as that. I brought up the double standard topic, and in doing so I did not say she or he were bad people, I did not fault her for adopting or having biological kids, all I did is ask why it is okay for them to do the things that others are ragged on for? How is that complaining about them> I am complaining about the double standard used for them. If it is okay for the Pitts to adopt and have children, whjy is it not okay for Madonna or Heigel? Why can’t the Duggars have as many kids as they like? Why are they held to a different standard than the Pitt-Jolie’s? Now where from that do you get that I am speaking ill of that family?
What about the latins? That is discrimination!!! Angie, South America also exists.
Shouldn’t this kids be at school? And what about the twins? I believe she stopped breastfeeding after the famous photo Brad took.
Quality not quantity Angelina.
Mari – adopting children is better than cutting or throwing up? Better for whom?
people who want to be parents are so selfish.–Sorry I have a problem with this line..there’s a little more to being a parent and wanting a child then an environmental issue…and while absolutely nothing is wrong with adoption, sometimes that’s not an option for people who want to be parents.
The issue I have with them adopting so many kids, is that they don’t have enough time for them. 6 kids under 10? And both are still working on movies pretty actively? Yes, it’s great that you have money and can provide for these children, but really how well are these kids being brought up being traipsed from new country to new country when mom or dad is on location? Not being able to do something simple like going to the store, without hundreds of flashbulbs and people shouting your name? Waking up, not knowing if the first person you see is mom/dad or one of a multitude of nannies? Yeah, it’s great what this couple is doing by adopting these kids and removing them from a bad environment, but is their new one beneficial to them as well?
Adoption aside, why haven’t we seen the twins? It’s as if they didn’t exist.
@crash2GO2
Amen on that! I thought the same thing when I read that.
I’m done………………..!
I’m corncerned because I suspect these two, Angelina in particular, are indulging in drugs.
Angelina’s had a lonnnng hardcore history of dancing with Mr Brownstone and no rehab as far as I’ve read and just recently Brad’s been outed for his use of hash, booze and pot.
I couldn’t help but to start laughing as I neared the end of these posts. Not one of you or I know anything about any of the facts on any of this! It’s another rag selling yet another story to people who have nothing better to do than sit at their computers and judge others. As far as adoption in North America, it’s ridiculous the amount of time people are made to wait for a child when there are thousands waiting for a loving home. I don’t blame people for going elsewhere to adopt (I’m not saying it’s right or wrong). Re Jon and Kate – they were helped along the way by millions of viewers folks – if they hadn’t been watched, they would be just the nurse and IT guy. As for Ang and Brad, give it a rest for cryin out loud! They aren’t abusing these children, they all look pretty dang happy to me. As for the Duggars, regardless of what some may think, it’s always been the older children look after the younger ones in many families. The Dugger kids are nice, happy, drug and drama free, they contribute to their community and aren’t taking from the government. Until I’ve actually spoken to Brad and Ang, and any of the other people mentioned in these posts and heard their side, I think I will just go back to laughing at how serious all of you are about people you don’t even know.
I don’t see anything wrong with what Jolie and Pitt are doing. They are willing to use THEIR OWN MONEY to provide a comfortable home, health care (so important!), and access to education and world travel, to basically abandoned children who would have otherwise fallen into God knows what sort of life in an impoverished country. What exactly is wrong with what these two people are doing?
The german intouch magazin say she want to adopt twin boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why can’t they adopt from the US? it seems suspicious. There are so many children that need homes in the States.
Firestarter:
This is the difference between the Duggars and the Jolie-Pitts.
The Jolie-Pitts have adopted half of their children, they have given a home to 3 children who already existed on this earth. The Duggars have given birth to what 18 or 19 children? In this world there is no reason for any family to have that many biological children. We no longer live in a world where families need a dozen children to work the farm. I have no problem with the Duggars wanting a big family, and I understand that they are very religious,but somehow I think God wouldn’t have minded if they had adopted some children instead of needlessly adding people to this world.
Firestarter I don’t know what you’re talking about that Brad and Angelina are always praised. Just look at their threads to see all of the attacks. They do many of the same things that other celebrities do yet for some reason it’s a much bigger deal when it’s about them. For instance Shiloh’s missing tooth is an international scandal. People are even saying she’s abused by her siblings. Yet nobody cares that other kids about the same age like Violet Affleck and Cruz Beckham also are missing teeth. It doesn’t even make sense to me when people keep saying that they are always working and neglect their kids. Angelina has done one movie in two years. Brad has done two movies in two years and probably spent at most four months on set. Plus they bring the kids on set. When they do movie promotion/charity trips they are gone 1-3 days max and sometimes bring the kids. For the year, they probably been away from home for 2 weeks, both of them combined.
Well to you it is needlessly adding people to this earth, but to the Duggars it is their family, and it is their right to have children if they want, biologically or otherwise. It isn’t for you or anyone of us to tell them they can’t. As long as they are taken care of and become decent members of society.
Hell, you people win, the Jolie-Pitts can do no wrong, but the rest of us mere mortals are hopelessly flawed and can only hope to be as special as they are some day. My words, are you people happy now.
Enough. You win, I am, wrong about every point I have made. Have a great day and I hope all of you are adopting and not adding children to this earth needlessly!
Can you imagine the adoption agencies faces if they read an application made by non-celebrity versions of JP?
“Yah, we want to buy a child …
– we’ll be here there and everywhere, in and out of the country at whim, 2-10 times a month, yanking one or two kids at a time with us, separatey, packing and unpacking constantly while we glorify our public images and personas (as we already have more money than God)”.
“Past (and present) drug use?” -do you have more paper?”
“Relationship stability?” -what’s that?”
Whatever, I resent the system, the double standards and these two being touted as anything better than lousy parents and therefore, people.
I don’t care if they have nannies galore to make sure they don’t fall into a pool -the JP life is no life for a child, except as PR and extreme selfishness especially considering they sought these children out gratuitously to add them to their self-indulgent adult world/lifestyle.
They have the means to provide for as many children, biological and adopted, as they care to have. While they might not have a conventional family, I have no reason to think they’re not good parents.
I just don’t understand why they have to go all over the world to adopt, when there’s plenty of American children that need good homes. That part has always bugged me about them.
Firestarter I do not call people I do not know as traitors or say that they have committed infidelity with their partners without knowing the story behind it and also I really do not care what the tabloids say about those who i admire and we always here calling Bs to the stories that the tabloids make up about our idols thats why i said that u are talking shit about them.
About the two families i apologize u don’t mention first but if you are appointing the Duggars it is clear that this will lead to comparisons with 8 + and Octomom since they all have in common a) they were middle class b) people not famous c) have been given a monthly income of government help for have a huge family d) were help by Empress for appearing on TV announcing the huge number of children they conceived and are still give birth e) All families mentioned won tv programs when we can watch how they deal with the huge number of children they put in the world and ultimately THE WORLD is paying them to raise their children.
Now you really want to claim that Brad and Angie are bad or equally like this family’s only because of the size of their family and because they are actually rich and famous BEFORE they have any children u are really against this too because they take the money from pictures of the children and donate them? And I do not care if they donate all the money or not but I prefer to believe what they say than in tabloids. And just to quote what you said “it is their family, and it is their right to have children if they want, biologically or otherwise. It isn’t for you or anyone of us to tell them they can’t. As long as they are taken care of and become decent members of society.” Maybe someday you are also able to do what you preach to others to do? Lets just HOPE so we will be all good people
Am i the ONLY one that noticed that IGNORANT ASS comment by CHILLY calling that little girl aunt JEMIMA WTF is that about???!! ANd what about her hair?? does she have to have a perm to be acceptable!! Her hair is natural, as long as its clean and mosturized its all good! I HATE ignorant MF’S!!!
I see everybody’s point.
They might not have the financial limitations others would/do, but they still have a lot of moral ones. Just because you can AFFORD to, doesn’t mean you should – 2 words, Paris. Hilton.
You adopt them, but who RAISES them? They have a staff of part-/full-time nannies, assistants, bodyguards, etc., which I’m not saying is bad, but like older kids raising younger, who is REALLY the parent(s)?
Then the expected CHAOS of not just a bunch of kids (and 2 questionable gerbils), but staying in multiple location for months, then another, while maintaining high profile jobs and charities worldwide. They are signed up for future projects (granted, not a lot), which I doubt will all be filmed in the South(?) of France…
I get the pet shop trips, the constant toy store trips, etc, but it’s the grind of regular everyday routine (or lack of) that can make or break the strongest of individuals. Schooling, wanting OUTSIDE interests/attachments, heck, STAYING AWAKE UNTIL THEIR BEDTIME, etc.
I don’t know that they can have it ALL, but for the little lives at stake (present and future), let’s hope they figure it out w/ minimum damage. Cuz bottom line: they ain’t stoppin’…
Still, this website could go on for a decade of decades documenting this new bunch of HW kids (JPs and the rest) and their downfall. Yikes!
I was headed down to comment on the same thing, Linda. Chilly, you’re an asshole.
No, I think the most shocking comment comes from Donna dot.
What the heck was that about???
Angelina has been saying for years that it’s very important that her children have others they can identify with. They began with Pax who is Asian like Maddox. Now Shiloh has the little twins that look just like her. That leaves Z with noone to look like. Being an adopted child I know you get loads of love but you just crave to look like your family – even when you don’t. I’m sure this has been planned for some time. An African girl,Ethiopian maybe to enrich Z’s life. I think it’s a wonderful idea and I’m sure Zahara would love it too.
@ Victoria: Actually, Z has a little cousin who looks like her. Brad’s sister Julie Neal and her husband adopted a little boy from Ethiopia last year.
Someone should really step in and give Angelina parenting tips: Example (to her adopted daughter): “It’s a human being not another Barbie doll!”
What people don’t discuss is how ordinary non celebrities, who try to adopt babies overseas, have bureaucratic difficulties, yet the Angelinas and Madonnas of this world pay the right people, no, they don’t go through the usual channels. If they did, they wouldn’t adopt in less than a year.
She is crazy!
poor rich kids
I heard Angelina answer the why doesn’t she adopt american kids question. She said that there aren’t that many kids living in orphanages in the US (compared to other countries). There still are some children’s home operating but the goal here is to get kids into foster care so they are living in family groups. Even so, she said american kids still have a much better quality of life here while waiting for adoption than any of the countries she adopts from.
Well, I’m not Jolie biggest fan but for people who say that adopting so many children means neglecting some of them- do you think they would be better off in an orphanage?What chances Zahara, Maddox or Pax would have for life? Abuse, diseases, rapes, violence, loneliness, death. So, yeah, if Jolie wants to save another kid from this hell and then even neglect this kid a bit (emotionally, that is)-it’s still a good deed in my book.
Chilly is banned for making racist remarks and commenting under multiple names. Please if you see something like that just send the comment in using “report this comment as spam or abuse” link.
-edit- someone did report this comment earlier, thank you!
Thank you for taking down the racist post. Nobody should ever get away with being so nasty and hateful.
I don’t understand why Angelina/Brad are attacked for wanting to adopt and adopting.. She has said early on in her life.. well before she and Brad got together that she wanted lots of kids from all over the world. This was before she had Madd. So it is not a whim. And Brad has said well before meeting Angie that he wanted a soccer team.. They both found in each other a person who wanted the same thing.
Every person in this world gets to build their family the way they choose. It is not open for debate. It does not matter if anyone agrees or not. They are the ones who get to decide how they want their family to look. Some people choose to have children some do not. Some people want 1 or 2. others want more. they have 3 biological children and 3 adopted. Angie had Madd before meeting Brad and had begun the process of adopting Zee when she and Brad got together. I am sure they as a couple decided to get pregnant and together they decided to adopt Pax.. she said that THEY decided to try and get pregnant when she started filming Changling (thus the twins) and I am sure like EVERY other couple in the world if they adopt again it will be a decision THEY MAKE TOGETHER. It is funny that people want to assume that each of them are living separate lives.. They are a FAMILY.. not a traditional one but a Family still.. They are a couple. again not a traditional one but a Couple the same. They live and raise their children together. It would make no sense at all if that was not the case. It is clear that the people who don’t like them feel they have a right to judge how they do this. But you don’t. They are not the only people in Hollywood with more then one child. I don’t get the octomom reference. Angelina has been pregnant 2 times.. 2. less then Heidi Klum or Victoria Beckham.. and the same as Gwen S, Reese, Jennifer, Nicole and so many others. I hardly call that an octomom.. and for someone to equate adopting a child with buying children is sick.. and offensive to every child in this world who has been adopted. Adoption is not FREE for anyone no matter who you are. There are cost involved. So don’t point the finger at Brad/Angie. I had a friend adopt from China.. the cost was over 10,000 dollars. I would never say she bought her daughter.. I bet some of you who use that term on the Jolie-Pitts would not do either. I just feel for them it is a double standard and always a negative one directed at them and them alone. Hugh Jackman has adopted children.. did he buy them. the guy from Grey’s Anatomy has 5 kids (biological).. is his wife a sick baby collector or an octomom. Or are those terms only applied to Angelina/Brad
**Well to you it is needlessly adding people to this earth, but to the Duggars it is their family, and it is their right to have children if they want, biologically or otherwise. It isn’t for you or anyone of us to tell them they can’t. As long as they are taken care of and become decent members of society.**
I totally agree. I cant believe some of the things I’m reading.
Star Magazine GMAFB Where is baby#7, the baby Star claimed she was pregnant with 6 months ago. I guess the baby is with the twins Star claimed Jenifer Aniston was pregnant with. I find it intersting that Sharon stone adopted 3 boys in 5 years yet noone accuses her of being an adoption addict. Oh I forgot her babies were white, blonde and blue eyed.As for the people who want them to adopt American children Why don’t you? Contact your local foster care agency there are 500,000 kids available for adoption . Cost is $0 in most cases
Seriously people! They have a right to do what ever they please! What harm is it to you who they adopt? I cannot believe how so many of you are getting your chuddies in a twist over it.
Frankly, I do not care where Angelina adopts from or what nationality or race the children are. I am on board with adoptions of any kind from any place period. The choice from where to adopt is up to the individuals involved and not up to society, just like the right to have biological children is up to an individual or couple and not up to any of us to tell people that they HAVE to adopt because the world is over populated. The nerve some people have, dictating as to how and why things should be done in other people’s lives. Worry about your own, worry about your own carbon foot print and not everyone else’s.
Also, just because people have large families ie: the Duggars, does not mean that the children get neglected and that the older children take on more responsibility than they should, it means that they have other children to play with and that they act as a family, taking care of one another. I have a girlfriend who has two kids, and the older one ALWAYS helps with the younger one. It doesn’t mean she is being robbed of her childhood, it means she is helping with the family and that is what families do, work together and make a go of things as a unit, with everyone taking on some responsibility, whether it be doing dishes, walking the dog, taking care of a younger sibling, mowing grass. Those who criticize those for having large families have no right to, unless those children are neglected and abused.
@Mimi- You are incorrect about the Duggars, they DO NOT get a monthly check from the government, and have always provided for their family through their jobs, thrifty living and shopping at second hand stores, and those who voluntarily made donations of clothes or furniture to them. They have never been on welfare or government assistance. Furthermore, the Duggars had a large family BEFORE anyone had even heard of them. They did not start out or continue to have children in order to gain fame on a reality show. Their religion is what they go by as far as why they have a large family and it has nothing to do with wanting fame.
Sorry that I kind of veered off the track with this post. It just bothers me when people compare the Duggars and Octomom, who have NOTHING in commom, other than a large family. The Duggars are a decent, clean living family, who take care of themselves and do not depend on the government or constant hand outs to get by. As another poster said, they are decent, drug/drama free people who have a strong faith, whether you agree with it or not.
So please do not compare them to Octomom or even Jon and Kate. Commomn thread: Many kids, but it ends there.
On one hand, re having children needlessly (a bit strongly put) is a reality in our world. There are many people on this planet who should never ever have had children, if the number of children that have come through my life are any indication. (Social services group home parent, foster parent and youth worker). I disagree that AJ/BP are allowed to get away with anything, but I do see Firestarter’s point(s). The fact is, people are going to have children just because they can, and others will adopt because they can’t. I can’t have my own children, but even if I could I wouldn’t. I would far prefer to adopt or foster. But that is just me. Everyone is entitled to their own choices. next!
Isabel: your comment is asinine. Zahara did not ask to be adopted and I’m sure she is better off. Saying she should go back to Africa shows your ignorance as she is a little girl. Grow up.
Firestarter: Your name says it all. Chill. NO ONE should be having so many biological children in this day and age when the world is already overpopulated. Secondly using the time old “God said” or “religion” as a reason to have 19 children is bogus. The Duggars are lucky in one sense; that they have so many children to help take care of the youngings because if they died what would those children do for parental support and guidance? Children raising children is never a good thing, no matter how mature the other may seem. Those are huge responsibilities to take on as children. But, to each his own.
There are thousands of unmarried people living in gov’t paid housing with ten children. All the children with different fathers, yes the gov’t cares for all ten of the children providing 100 percent for them plus the mother. Instead of focusing on Brad and Angelina who care and provide for their children themselves you should focus on people taking advantage of the system.
NIKKI- Sorry to disappoint you dear, but my screen name has nothing to do with my personanlity, it is after I song I like.
What’s your deal with making a snide comment about me anyway? I haven’t attacked anyone, only given MY opinion as 60 other people have done. Have a nice day.
“What’s your deal with making a snide comment about me anyway? I haven’t attacked anyone, only given MY opinion as 60 other people have done. Have a nice day.”
People who don’t feel as secure about their opinions seek solidarity. But then, your confident tone says you already knew that 😉
While I think it’s stupid for them to have so many kids in such a short time frame, I do think that she should honor her commitment of adopting another african child since she made it such a big point of providing racially matched children.
Although why the hurry, she could wait a bit. As for the point of her not being ragged upon for her actions, I don’t think that’s true. Every time I read JP posts people diss them as much as the others.
oh I missed Isabel’s post. You know Zahara didn’t ask for another african sibling, Angelina feels she should have one in case she feels isolated growing up. It’s Angelina’s desire, not hers, although one day she may appreciate it or not, who knows. I dont think you realize Zahara is a child right? Your comment came out as very cold towards a child.
Team Firestarter, as ever.
As for these two that the story is about – they need to stop the madness.
All of you who rant that NOONE should be having any biological children b/c of overpopulation: STFU!!!!
Seriously,I’m not interested in a socialist/quasi communist PC fu*king world!
Does ‘overpopulation’ rule the world as an entitY?
I didn’t think so.
Until that time comes,let’s have some measure of reality that isn’t based on a statistic and government policy/intervention masquerading as your personal opinion.
You know,maybe all the ‘breeders’ should go live on the icebergs,as they rapidly melt away….since all this overpopulation is contributing to global warming,right?
What a bunch of fucki*g idiots.
Conception,pregnancy and childbirth are inherent options in all humans and animals. Some do so for practicality,ESPECIALLY in countries where the highest birthrates are: ie,afrian,asian countries…
And,if you researched anything,you’d know that the child mortality rate is equally high,and that most families still live at a subsistence level,and more children frankly come in handy for them,esp. with so many dying off before adulthood. Yea,with the new transition to urban and industrial/consumer economies,that is shifting,but not overnight.
It’s not as though the birthrate in the US or europe is ‘high’. In fact,I think it’s gone down in the last decade,if I’m remembering correctly.
Lastly,it truly is each individual’s choice. Not God’s,but each person’s choice. And it’s a beautiful experience,whether adopted or biological-some people truly love the experience,that is ineffable,of creating a life,birthing and guiding it. No,it’s not all b/c of ego,and wanting a ‘mini me’. But,if you don’t get that,you don’t get it. It cannot be put into words. But why the hell do we have reproductive organs,if,suddenly,b/c someone told us that there are too many people,we aren’t supposed to use them,EVER? [NO,not everyone will want to do this,obviously. Those who do,certainly have the right,however. Maybe a better choice is to stop developing medical breakthroughs that lower the mortality rate,huh? lol…yea,that’s a stupid idea,about as stupid as the ‘solution’ of not having bioligical children.]
All children are birthed,after all. Who are you to judge how that birth happens? Are you saying that only poverty stricken 3rd world women who dont know any better should birth children,and only wealthy 1st world folks should raise them?
On that subject,adoption is EXPENSIVE. And many who would like to be parents,cannot afford it. Simple fact. And the foster care to adoption system is flawed and not guaranteed.
Honestly,people,think through your comments before posting them.
Not sure why anyone is taking issue with Firestarter stating her opinion, which as this trail of posts clearly shows, everyone else has been entitled to and has taken advantage of.
One can agree to disagree, politely and respectfully. Stay on topic, which from what I have read thus far, has stirred up some passionate opinions. Because that’s all this is people, our opinions. Cheers!
Thank you CB. It turned my stomach to come on here and read shit like that.
I think AJ’s obsession with adoption may be more pathological than Mia Farrow’s. While I think it’s great to adopt kids, especially those unlikely to be adopted by others, Brangelina makes it seem like some sort of contest with a new family addition each year. What ever happened to letting a child acclimate to his/her new family before changing the family dynamic yet again.
Sorry but AJ and Madonna (who gave her new toy a whopping 5 minutes to settle in before dragging her on tour) just seem to make their adoptions seem to be about something other than the children involved.
To the poster that said they have added to their family each year come on get a life. It is just beyond words why so many people think that they have a say in how other people live their lives. Have your own children and raise them the way you see fit. Bring in another child when you choose. I am quite sure that if anyone on the outside of your life tried to tell you what to do or when to do it, you would tell them in no uncertain terms where to go. The internet gives us a lot of information. The down side is it makes us think we have a say in things we do not. Brad/Angie are Movie stars, but they are human beings First. We did not buy a ticket into every decision they make regarding their private lives. They let us see what they want us to see and give out information they choose. Just like all of us. We tell the people outside our lives what we want them to know and keep some things to ourselves. I think THEY like everyone else deserves that right as well.
Bottom line it is none of our business..
Thanks Zoe and Domestic Goddess! : )
I think adoption is great, and if they have the means and desire to adopt many children, then that’s wonderful. My only concern is that they add to their family so quickly. If they spaced it out every couple of years, it would give everyone time to adjust, but they don’t seem to do that. Coupled with the fact that they travel so much and have no real home base, I’d imagine it’s a rough transition sometimes. I wish they’d pace themselves a little – as the older kids become more independent and need less attention, then they could focus on another kid.
They don’t adopt in the US because there are rules, regulations, background checks, all that sort of red tape that they’d run into. Wasn’t their last adoption listed as just her because the country didn’t allow unmarried parents but did allow single mothers, yet she’s half of a hugely famous couple? They don’t exactly like to play by all the rules that the rest of us all have to do.
I would never blame Brad if he pulled a Gregg Allman and went out for cigarettes and never came back. The household just sounds too chaotic. I really don’t think the issue is whether the kids are homegrown or imported.
@ oh my:
Let’s not forget AJ when she said she was going to take a year off to help Pax assimilate into the family (he couldn’t speak English, was constantly not allowing them to hold him, they had to have a translator stay with them for the first few weeks.) It was a very emotional situation. She said she wanted to “make time for her son” and guess what? A mere few weeks later, she had signed on to 3 more movies, one of which (Wanted) she started filming within a few months.
If she had just said “It’s important that he fits in, but I still have a job” instead of this Mother Earth stuff, I would say nothing. Just own up to it.
@ Laura: Let’s not forget that Angelina was already contracted to film Wanted and Changeling when they adopted Pax. What was she supposed to do, walk out of her contracts? Just try abrogating a contract in Hollywood and see if you ever get a part in another film.
Actually, she did take a year off work. Changeling wrapped at the end of 2007 and she didn’t work again until early 2009.
Here’s the kicker. They don’t care what you think. They are living their lives as they see fit, they have the money to do so, their children are happy and healthy and are having the good fortune of a wealth of experience and love. Very lucky kids.
I feel more concern for children whose parents exhibit immoral behavior publicly, who do nothing but profit from their children, all the while protesting that they only think of their children. Parents who do nothing to protect their children, who let them run riot – Lohan, Britney, etcetc. I’ll take the AJ/BP’s of the world anyday thanks.
Laura maybe she found that Pax was adjusting just fine.. and when she did go back to work and shot KFP, Changleing and Wanted the entire process for all these films took about 4 months.. that is not 24/7. Plus Brad was there and not working so she could. Brad has not worked in about a year and her movies don’t take more then a few months.. and she has only done one.. so she and Brad are spending a lot of time with their children.. more then the average parent gets to.(especially the parents who are on line 24/7 critizing others); but of course that “Earth Mother” dig is a clear indicator that you have a negative image and will use anything you can find to justify it..
She has a right to change her mind or adjust her life the way she and he see fit(she does not need our approval to do so) We don’t see their kids enough to know anything about them. a few pap shots of them walking to or from somewhere is not evidence enough of how the children are raised.. People who have seen them talk about them being good kids and well mannered. And no I don’t know if that is true.. but then neither do you.
I just think people need to stop attacking them on how they handle their family when it affects no one but them.
Just thought I’d offer some respite from all of the animosity to say OHMYGOD is Maddox not going to be the most adorable little heartbreaker when he grows up?!
The real issue and one that certainly could lend credence to the whole Brad Objects theory is: Can there possibly be enough time and attention to go around for all of these children? I don’t really feel that I give enough to my two despite my noble efforts. True, they have more than adequate help, are not constrained by household chores, cooking, errands, finances, etc. But there are literally only so many hours in a day and some of these children are really small. I think each one deserves as much time as possible for individual nurturing and don’t really see (despite their good intentions and effort) how that can be accomplished here. Also, these are wordly, talented, cosmopolitan jet setters who obviously do have other interests besides constant attention to children. One could see how this could drive a wedge. There comes a time to be sensible, realistic and possibly wait a bit. Promise to Z notwithstanding. She is old enough to understand the family has babies and this is something that can be done later. Having said that, now that Angie has gone shopping, how can she turn down a needy child with an adorable face? I think we will be seeing another adoption. And possibly fireworks.
Angelina is a troubled person. She puts herself first always. She can talk a good game I’m having a baby because of this…I’m adopting because my kids asked to give them a toy…I mean child. They jet set without the kids and have nannies taking care of them the majority of the time. I think quality time with one or two children is great but they never do anything together. It is as if they have only one or two children. That is all they are ever with at a time. Back at home is where the real family is the nannies and the kids. They are all about presenting a certain image. And believe you me if they read this in about a day or two you will see a picture of them out as a whole family and they will go on every talk show circut talking about how they do everything as a family and how perfect everything is. Angelina is a troubled soul.
Dang Jay since you know how much time hour for hour they spend with their children you should create your own blog to clue the rest of us in.. Most parents spend less the 4 hours per day with their kids.. when you figure some kids go to a day care at 7 o’clock in the morning and are not picked up until 6:00 in the evening.. take in bath, homework and tv and that does not add up to a lot of one on one mommy and daddy time.. Not to mention kids who do after school sports or dance and so on.. Just saw Kingston with the Nannies.. I guess Gwen puts herself and her career first too.. or is that only for Angelina.. give me a freakin break.. If she quit acting and stayed home 24/7 some of you would pull some other crap out of your hate hat. what would it be then.. she is so selfish she won’t let the kids out of her sight or she won’t let them become independance.. I get it.. she is damned if she does and damned if she does not.
So glad Angelina does not give a damn what the outside world thinks at all.
Jay, I think you’re off your rockers! what you just wrote is total BS. Actually, those comments indicate that you wrote that out of sheer hatred .
Actually, Jay’s writing sound as deranged as Ned, Lola or Ursula. It must be one of those 3 whack jobs.
Why does Zahara need another child like her in the family? isn’t her goal to try to cut through those cultural boundaries by putting so many different children into one household? if she makes a big deal out of the fact that zahara is different, then she will feel different. If she promotes an atmosphere of unity, then she won’t even notice… I think that is better than stressing that she’s different and she needs someone else like her to feel more comfortable…
I do agree with one point made by jay. I have noticed that they are NEVER photographed with all the children at once… so how do they decide who they are taking with them on that particular outing? is it like a game of heads or tails? i have trouble wrapping my mind around how they figure out which children need to be out and about that particular time and which need to stay home. that’s gotta be a pretty hurtful process…
Some of you posting on here remind me of this troll on JustJared who keeps squealing “But where are the twins? I wanna see the twinsssssss!” One reason Brad and Angie have relocated their family to Europe is to keep their children out of the camera range of prying paparazzi, and since there have been very few recent photos of the kids, I’d say they are doing a damn good job. Keep on keepin’ on.
“But where are the twins? I wanna see the twinsssssss!”
yes, i saw that on JJ, too. there is some kind of conspiration theory going on based on the twins in the comment section at JJ. 🙂
@ donna dot: I remember a while back when the trolls on JJ were circulating some really vicious rumors that Brad and Angie never took Shiloh out with the three older children because she had Down Syndrome or was severely autistic. Now they are starting all over again saying something is wrong with the twins.
I am at a total loss to understand people who take out their spite against parents on innocent children.
@donna dot and Cheyenne: those rumours about the biological kids crack me up. The way I see it, they leave the babies at home because they’re BABIES, and thus won’t get much enjoyment out of a shopping trip for gerbils or whatever. they did the same thing with Shiloh when she was born. In a year or two, when the twins are able to walk and talk, I bet we’ll see them out more too. Unless, you know, Empress Z decrees otherwise.
Money and celebrity certainly makes things a whole lot easier doesn’t it. The only problem I have with celebrity adoption is that they buy it.
I used to be a school teacher but was advised by the adoption board to give up my job because they look at stay at home mothers more favourable (has anyone ever said this to Angelina). My husband is a doctor. Since attempting to adopt we have become teetotallers, neither of us smoke, neither of us have a history of drug use, self harm or unsuitable partners. We have been trying for SEVEN YEARS to adopt, doing everything right along the way.
And yet someone like Angelina and Brad who’ve only been together a wet day click their fingers and get a child of any colour, ethnicity, eye colour, hair colour that they bloody well want.
Fair play to them but you can’t blame me for being a little bitter.
Jen, what you’re saying is absurd. I know for a fact that if you were willing to adopt a Black baby,or a baby otherwise not perfect, it would be a lot easier. Problem is that in the US Blacks don’t adopt as much as whites an whites mostly want white babies, so, those are in low numbers. As you can see, the Jolie-Pitt have NOT adopted any white children.
You naysayers need to get a life. Since when does your opinion count in other people’s lives. They had 3 biological and adopted 3 who are better off than they were. What have you done lately for any of the children languishing in the American welfare system? How many have you adopted into a better life? STFU and let these people be. They didn’t ask for your input.
How Brad and Angelina choose to expand their family is their business. Why do everyone try to dictate to this couple, how many kids they can have, how many kids they can adopt, where they can live with their kids, how they can educate their kids, what their kids can eat, what their kids can wear, WTF.
JEALOUS MUCH
It is none of your business. It is Brad and Angelina’s rights to live and raise their kids the way they want.
Miriam, I don’t live in the US so maybe things are easier over there but I live in Ireland and we’re currently trying to adopt from Vietnam because of family links to there we feel we would be more familiar with the culture and society there.
@ Emily: The twins are already walking. They are 14 months old. But taking two toddlers out with a group of older kids can be a major undertaking. Usually one toddles off in one direction while the other toddles off in the other.
They have the money to be able to care for all these children and more. If they feel they can give these children the love and attention they need then I think more power to them. Who am I to judge. People have been having large families for centuries and living on far less finances. I hope they get the little girl. That will be one more child that has found a forever home.
I think six kids is more than enough for these globe trotting working parents. I though Angelina was going to stop working for awhile after Shiloh was born and then she suddenly adopted Pax and started a new movie. I can see Brad’s point but then I do see her’s as far as wanting to find these kids homes. Why doesn’t she start something here in the US where an agency here can help facilitate adoptions of these African children. This way instead of having them in her house, she can visit them in their new homes. Her heart is in the right place.
We don’t know how long it took them to adopt, we see the child when they arrive but we don’t know how long the process took. People talk as if they adopt a child every month, but Pax was the last one 3 years ago. for people of means, 6-7 children is not such a big number.
Face it, people! Angie and Brad know only one thing. It’s been drummed into their dear little heads from the time they decided they wanted to be movie stars: IMAGE. It isn’t about what you are; it’s about what people think you are.
Everything, but EVERYTHING, is done according to how it will look to the public (except when Angelina taps her little foot and screams, “Fuggum!”) If a little black girl from Africa fits the image, that’s what they’ll get.
I try to imagine what Brad’s parents must feel with their Midwest sensibilities. I’ve never cared about Brad one way or the other, but he disappoints me. I thought he had more guts. In this entire episode, he has been portrayed as a sick-in-love little puppy without an opinion worth listening to, a demasculated, scared little boy.
This relationship has long since been over. The problem is that Angie is pedaling their bicycle build for two. Brad can’t stand the thought of leaving the children behind with Angie, so he keeps muddling on.
As for their image, it was doomed from the start of their affair when he was still married to Jennifer. Now, their carefully-constructed image is nothing more than a machine cranking out gossip for the rags, a laughable remnant of what they could have been.
I don’t want to be around when they finally end this cherade and, sick of it all, lose interest in the children they professed to want so much. Everything up to then will have been folly, but that will be the true tragedy.
I think they adopt from other countries instead of the US because our homeless and parentless children aren’t as exotic as the ones from African, etc. Just my opinion. However, no one actually knows whether any of this is true. These are the tabloids, not exactly your believable reporting.
If they were concerned with image they would parade their family around including the twins. Brad wouldn’t look like a homeless person with that beard,Zahara’s hair would be combed, Shiloh would be dressed like a girl. Exactly what type of image are they potraying,a couple rarely photographed together. A couple who never have all their kids with them. I guess they need to hire a image consultant because the only image I see is a couple who don’t respond to tabloid stories. Keep doing what you are doing Brad and Angie continue to prosper professionally and personally. Continue to ignore the haters who get their info from tabloids that contradict each other(Brad Moves Out-IT,Baby #7-Star, Brad goes to rehab-NE, Brad and Angie tring to get pregnant-Us Weekly, Brad sleeping on the couch-OK magazine( in a house with 35 rooms) GMAFB
It is inproper for these celeb “moms” (Like Maternal Girl Madonna or Angie),
to adopt many children, when they have Not enough time for the ones they already have! These children need a fair shake and complete Devotion.
I fear this issue is great in Concern.
Angie has worked less than 4 months this year. I guess working mothers shouldn’t be allowed to adopt. Since wrapping Salt in late May as far as we know she has been with her kids with the exception of 2 3 day UN trips. So she is with her kids more than the average mother who works a 40 hr week.She may not work again for a year she took off 15 months between Changeling Nov 2007-Feb 2009. Please explain to me How you know she doesnt have time for the ones she have. Do the Mrs Duggar have time for her 19 kids . Does your neighbor w/ 6 or 7 kids have time for their kids.
Crazy! What IF, something happens and Angie and Brad, start having problems, or something happens to them, WHO, will care for these children, I understand adoption if your unable to have children, but not so you can have your own baseball team. Yes, they love and care for there kids, but you never know, not everyone is rich and give these kids this sort of life, to send them back where they come from, not fair, needs to stop, and they need to regroup!!!!!
Annie sez: This relationship has long since been over.
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And you know this how? Share your perspicacity and/or your insider tips with the rest of us. Oh, you mean you read it in In Touch? Riiiiight. And if In Touch says the relationship is over, it’s gotta be true.
GMFAB. Take the chains off your brains, honey, and go read a good book. Those tabloids are rotting what’s left of your gray matter.
@ Kat: What would happen to the children if something happens to Brad and Angie, is the same thing that would happen to any children with extended family members. Without a doubt, the Pitt family would step in to care for the kids.
She needs to stop adopting more until she learns how to dress the ones she has. Every time I see those kids they look like they just dug clothes out of a goodwill box.
😯 Jeebus, there are some really major jumps in logic in this thread. Not as classicly mental as Brangelina threads of old, but getting there. Every celebrity is concerned about their image. No child is going to be deported back to the country of their birth if (God forbid) both AJ and BP died.
On the working issue, I think part of the problem is that AJ thinks of working as only being on the film set, whilst the rest of us regard the promotion of the film as work as well. Kung Fu Panda barely registers as work, in fairness, she would have been in the recording studio a week at the most; she barely had a dozen lines!
And for the billionth time, could we please leave Aniston’s name out of it? she has shag-all to do with anyone adopting anything from anywhere, be it goldfish or children!
@Miriam/Jen – unfortunately Miriam, when it comes to the Irish situation Jen is right. it is insanely difficult to adopt here (probably because unmarried mothers aren’t being forced into Magdalene Laundry concentration camps and their toddlers ripped from their arms to be basically sold off to the US – or Ireland and the UK to a lesser extent).
Jen, the best of luck with the adoption process.
Annie, if you don’t want to be around when the shit hits the fan, do us a favor and take yourself out. This planet can do without people like you.
Also, why fear they don’t have time for them? the children can raise each other like the Duggards, I mean, they seem to be the ideal prototype for a large, happy family, why can’t the Jolie-Pitt do the same
@Cheyenne
I’m sure that if In Touch wrote a story about Jen pasting a picture of Brad’s face on her pillow next to her when she would sleep, you would have no problem believing it. The fact that Brange worshippers are more likely to believe that than Brad and Angelina maybe having some troubles here and there with 6 kids and own careers and everything else is laughable. I love my boyfriend, but I’m not going to believe the sun shines out of his ass. Since when did admiration and glazed-eyed lunacy coincide?
@Annie
i have to give it up to you for making me laugh this morning. I wasn’t feeling very well and when I read
“This relationship has long since been over. The problem is that Angie is pedaling their bicycle built for two.”
I just got a mental movie of that situation and I couldn’t stop laughing 😀 I don’t hate or love the JPs. I just thought what you wrote was really funny.
Laura: I’m Just as certain that every time In Touch runs another bullshit story about the J-Ps breaking up,you start drooling with joy until you realize it’s just another bullshit story, and then you wait on tenterhooks until they run the nex bullshit story and the cycle starts all over again.
Tell me something: why are you so hot for this family to break up? How is it going to benefit you if they do split? I realize you’ve had a fairy-tail dream for the past five years that Brad will ultimately see the error of his ways, ditch the home-wrecking ho, run back to Jennifer and live happily ever after; but trust me, honey, IT AIN’T HAPPENING.
wow…123 comments?
just had to add this…WHEN, WHO or FROM WHERE the Jolie-Pitt clan adopt their next child (IF they are going to adopt one) is nobody’s business but theirs.
getting bent out of shape about whether she keeps her promise to Z about adopting another child from Africa, or whether she adopts at all (therefore “keeping her word” about adopting vs. birthing) is RIDICULOUS.
It’s about as silly as people feeling betrayed in some way about Aniston saying she wants kids and not having them yet.
seriously, if some famous person’s procreation plans are getting you riled, you need therapy and/or medication.
@ Laura
I’m assuming that since you threw a scenario at me and didn’t deny mine, my previous statement was true?
They have six children. Why would I want them to break up? I for one am hoping they stay together. The lifestyle works for them and the kids look happy, so it’s fine.
But what boggles my mind is that the JP enthusiasts actually gave credence to a story that Jen drew up a MARRIAGE/LIFE CONTRACT on the first date with a guy which had little nuggets of “truth” like stating when she wanted children. But then a story comes out that AJ was angry with Brad’s drinking, smoking hash and it’s incredulity for all.
Like I said, when did admiration and glazed-eyed lunacy coincide?
Thanks Mairead.
Unfortunately the adoption agreement between Ireland and Vietnam fell through the other day so more lengthy delays forecast. All we can do is stay hanging in there and keep the fingers crossed.
And my last comment was meant for Cheyenne.
@Jen
It’s hard being in a situation where like you seem like you’re doing all you can but not seeing results. But keep at it. I hope everything works out for you 🙂
@Jen, my apologies for my comments but you didn’t specify country. I wrongly assumed US.
Where are the TWINS? Didn’t Angelina have twins a while back? Where are they?!?!?! Aren’t they like 2 yet? Aren’t they adorable enough or is something horribly wrong with them?
Maybe they should adopt a child orphaned by Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans or somewhere in the US.
I still think that if they have time for another child, take the twins out for a spin every once in a while. They have enough staff that every adult can carry two kids at a time, I’m sure, since they don’t like to let them walk before the age of 5, it seems.
Oh My God! She is another Mia Farrow….look how screwed up her life and kids became…..
I Luv Angie, but she needs to fully take time with each kid. If she has so many then she can’t love them all equally. I think that she should tell Z that we will get you another sister, but in a little while not rigth away! I luv Angie and her beautiful family and also her idea to help and change the world. But come on honey, relax and enjoy the time with you two new children before you adpot another.
Yes, the twins have both grown fifteen heads, forked tongues and only answer to the name “Bob”. All terrible afflictions as you can well imagine. Which is why they have been hidden in a cupboard under the stairs since their Hello!/People cover.
Well….
Except for http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/knox-and-vivienne.jpg when they were “forced” to walk through the throngs at the Tokyo airport.
Sideways quislings!!! :evol:
Thanks Laura and thanks Miriam – I should have clarified where I was from – I actually didn’t realise there was such a difference between places. Maybe we should try emigration next 🙂
I’m sorry to hear about your setback Jen.
But regardless of country, it seems that cold-hard-cash is the most compelling reason people get their own way.
Grow up everyone. I think what Brad and Angelina do is selfless. It takes a lot of patience and yes, money to raise this many children, but guess what! They have the open heart to do it and don’t care what you or I think! Lucky children have a better life because of them. Get over yourselves. What have you done for society lately?
It is HER business, it is HER life. She knows what she can handle. She has God’s money and can afford these children. The most important thing that a child can receive is a loving and bonded relationship from A parent. There is no limit to how many children one person can love. Angie has that in spades and she also has the resources to physically care for them. What is the problem here? No real news today?
I find it interesting that Madonna’s name keeps popping into this thread. Unless something has changed that Im not aware of, she has 3 children, 2 of whom are biologically hers. In doing the math, that leaves 1 adopted child. Although 1 adoption fell through, she has not been adopting every orphan under the big blue sky. If they can provide for their children, biological or adopted, like it or not, it’s no one’s business but their own.
Why does it matter so much if Americans adopt a child from another country? Is it the child’s fault it was born in a third world country instead of the U.S? So many children need loving homes regardless of where they were born. They’re simply all children in God’s eyes.
Single adoptive mom to a wonderful boy from Guatemala (now age 10)
Laura: The question about why the JP fans readily accept any tabloid-endorsed story about Jen as fact, but then get riled up when the same tabloid suggests there might be something amiss in Brangie land is a good one, and it’s been posed many times on this site. But so far, no one has bothered to answer.
@Snackstick
Like I said: Adoration + glazed-eyed lunacy. The twihards know this pain of utmost devotion the best. I never even said they I wanted them to break up as Cheyenne stated. I just said it was stupid to believe half the stories that were written about JA (marriage contract…seriously?) but not give credence to the fact that maybe, just maybe AJ was a tiny bit miffed at his boozing and hashing.
There was a thread on this site that turned into the issue of JA always does the same type of movies and how she needs to stop/get some range/surgically scale down her chin/get a man who actually wants her/stop being a loser, you know, the usual. (For future reference, she does need to be in more roles outside of RomComs)
And I said, it was the same with AJ regarding film roles excluding A Mighty Heart and The Changeling. I gave definitive chronological proof…and no one said anything regarding my post after that. I would put the list here, but I feel I may already have gotten some mad with this post.
I really have to comment on the criticism that Angie somehow circumvents the system because she adopts in under a year. I am neither rich nor famous. I adopted all three of my children. Not one took a year to adopt, start-to-placement. My first was in my arms seven months after I walked through the doors of the agency. My second took a whopping 89 days. My daughter took the longest… one week shy of nine months. (and I was really upset that it would take NINE MONTHS to have a kid!! lol) All three of my children were born in another country. We completed all three adoptions in just over three year’s time and all three of my children were babies. Once a family adopts the first time, subsequent adoptions are both easier and faster — you are a known quantity to the agency.
When I see Angelina Jolie, I see a woman who sincerely loves children, and unconditionally loves her own. She has given millions to help children world-wide. If there were more people like Angelina out there, there would be far fewer children in this world who experience desperate need.
And for those who wonder why we may choose to adopt internationally? Because before I successfully adopted my three, I tried US adoptions.. foster and independent. Both times, I lose my child through no fault of my own. Why did I finally adopt from Korea? Because Korea was where my children were born — that’s why!
Her kids are always dressed tacky and look like crap. Brush their hair and buy them some decent clothes you idiot!
Laine:
September 25th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Firestarter:
This is the difference between the Duggars and the Jolie-Pitts.
The Jolie-Pitts have adopted half of their children, they have given a home to 3 children who already existed on this earth. The Duggars have given birth to what 18 or 19 children? In this world there is no reason for any family to have that many biological children. We no longer live in a world where families need a dozen children to work the farm. I have no problem with the Duggars wanting a big family, and I understand that they are very religious,but somehow I think God wouldn’t have minded if they had adopted some children instead of needlessly adding people to this world.
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Unless you are paying the Duggars’ bills, it is none of your business how many children they have.
@ Laura: Like I said, when did admiration and glazed-eyed lunacy coincide?
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Ask the Boo-Hoo Sisterhood. Five years after the Big Split and you guys are still acting as traumatized as if it had happened to you. Get over it already! Sheesh!
I really don’t see why everyone is so upset by any of this!!!! Who cares who adopts who and from where. There are kids all over the world that have NO ONE and just need love. Money isn’t going to make them happy!!! But the love the get from others will, I think it’s great that they can share that with any of the kids that not long ago had nothing to look forard to. I am looking at adopting myself, just for the fact that I have a friend that can’t keep her kids because she is bi-polar. I already have 5 from the ages of 16 months -19 years and I am not taking on anymore kids. But at the same time I know a couple that will and I have already got that into the works so that way everyone can be happy and know that this baby will be safe and not have to grow up thinking that no one ever loved him !!!! So why doesn’t everyone calm down and just be happy that a few more kids have families now and know that there was someone out there for them and they know that they are loved.
Emilie: Where are the TWINS? Didn’t Angelina have twins a while back? Where are they?!?!?! Aren’t they like 2 yet? Aren’t they adorable enough or is something horribly wrong with them?
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You remind me of those creepazoids who used to squeal two years ago: “Where’s Shiloh? How come they never take Shiloh anywhere? Why don’t they love Shiloh? What’s the matter with Shiloh? Are they keeping her chained up in the basement?”
They used to keep Shiloh at home because she was a baby and wasn’t old enough to participate in the older children’s activities. Just like the twins are still babies. They are 14 months old. When they are older you will probably see as much of them as you see of Shiloh and the older children now.
Only a sick freak would surmise that if you haven’t seen the twins its because there is something “horribly wrong” with them or because they aren’t “adorable enough” to be seen.
One question: since these aren’t your children, what is the basis of your morbid curiosity about them? Why should you care where they are?
WOW! If the Jolie-Pitts want to adopt more children, fine. They can afford them. If the Duggars can manage to give birth to a 19th child, fine. They are excellent parents. It is quite normal for older children to help care for younger children in a family. It is in no way unfair.
Several things I notice:
1. In many countries children are sent off to boarding school/finishing school as young as 10 years old. These are the years when a parent gives the most needed advice, in my opinion. The JP kids, therefore, will see much more of their parents than many kids will.
2. If I had 6 kids, had a cook, a gardner, several maids, and a few nannies, I can bet you a lot that I would be able to spend LOTS of quality time with my kids, together and individually. Since the JP team do have these hired helps, it stands to reason that they do spend a lot of time with the kids. Sounds to me like a lot of you are jealous!
3. I lived in a 3rd world country and did volunteer work with a girls orphanage and I cried every time I went and again when I left. Thes kids are given, by the government: A BUILDING! If they get clothing and food it is provided by donations. The orphanage I spent time at did not have hot water and guess what? the cold water was outside in a courtyard for the girls to use to wash their clothing and take their baths. Sounds like fun doesn’t it? They are not given soap, shampoo, towels or any of the nice things we take for granted. They also are not given LOVE! Many of them do not see their families until they are 18 and are able to work for their families and are taken back. Those with no families are just turned out at the age of 18. So I have no problem with anyone adopting them, NO PROBLEM AT ALL. Yes we have kids in America who need to be adopted and I want them to have a chance also. But their lives in foster homes and even those in orphanages are so much better than these little waifs I worked with. I wanted to adopt them all but I was too old by their standards. But for the 4 years I was there they got love from me and I did a lot of begging for money and items to take to them as often as I could.\SO, BACK OFF and leave the JP team alone. Pray that they will adopt even more of these very needy children, I do!
I hope this is the last child she adopts. She has enough kids. She should take her kids and give Brad his
kids. That’s where they are headed. She’s filling somekind of a void in her
life with all those kids. She needs
therapy. I would just assume not seeing or hearing about Pitt/Jolie anymore. This is strange at best.
In response to all the people commenting on how the children dress. I dont know how many of you have taken care of toddlers and young children, but i have helped raise my younger brother and sister and been a live in nanny for two young boys. have you ever tried to tell a child they cant wear that shirt because it doesnt match their pants or vice versa? children the age of their children are often allowed to dress themselves or pick out their clothing as a way of self expression. and i would do the same. it gives the child the feeling of being partially independent and allows their personality to shine thru. So no i dont care if my child wears her bathing suit under a skirt with rain boots in January as long as she will wear her jacket. and i dont care if my son wants to wear green and yellow and purple on the same day. let them express themselves. i applaud AJ and BP for allowing their children that sense of self expression, instead of forcing them to wear perfectly coordinated outfits for every outing like other celeb couples do just for the sake of looking good.
Did I not just read that Brad is ditching Angie.. He has had enough they had been living apart and now he is looking for his own space to live. I had hoped they would make it. But…What they do with the children is really a great thing they have plenty of money and means to adopt up to 12 that’s what Angie has told several magazines and clippings. I do think she is a bite gyspysish traveling all over they need to make home and stay there for the kids sake..Who ever that little girl is she will be very lucky.
Angie is simply channeling the great Josephine Baker and her “Rainbow Tribe”…and with or without the “sexiest man on earth” I think she should follow her heart. You have only to see her with those kids to see how much she adores them. Bless her kind and generous heart, and shame on you critics who know nothing of which you speak.
cindyapet: Did I not just read that Brad is ditching Angie.. He has had enough they had been living apart and now he is looking for his own space to live.
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Don’t tell me, let me guess: You read it in In Touch or Star or the National Enquirer. Right? If I had a nickel for every break-up story the tabloid have printed about this couple, I’d be a multi-millionaire now. The tabloids live off the gullibility of people like you.
Enough already really. We’re up to 156 posts, with some of the same people now attacking each other. I guess that’s what keeps this website going is featuring known touchy subjects like AJ, Brad Pitt, Madonna, Palin, Jennifer Aniston, Tom Cruise, Lohan, etc. which is fine. I love reading funny thoughts and interesting discussions from other people. But then things get nasty and personal and people start arguing over specualtion and bs. it’s a major turnoff. I know they’ll be people on here who will tell me to FO, that’s fine. I do take a break now and again when I get fed up. Bottom line, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!
Good for her for adopting another African baby. It will be good for Zah to have someone else in the home who looks like her. However, there should be one requirement before this adoption takes place. Angie show be required to LEARN HOW TO COMB THEIR FREAKING HAIR!!!! My goodness, look at what Madonna has done to Mercy’s hair.Madoona gets it. Angie just doesn’t . Just put some braids in it. It’s a damn shame that this child walks around looking like a crackhead’s baby.
Linda you are right . She does not need a perm, but she still needs her hair combed. There’s no excuse to let that child walk around like that. Plus , I really don’t think they use moisterizer in her hair. They treat her hair like white hair. Black hair is the oppisite of white hair. It needs moisterizer. Her hair looks like they wash it everyday.It does not has to be permed, or relaxed . I think she’s too young for that anyway. But there’s no excuse to not put braids, or ponytails in it. It just looks rough & uncared for because of the way they do her hair.There’s nothing wrong with asking for help to do your child’s hair if that child is of a different race. Angie should learn the culture of her children. The hair does not looked combed & that’s a fact. Lots of people wear natural hair, and they also comb it. Plus, the child walking aroung like that makes her look negelected. Sorry, but it does.
This whole story makes me sick. the concept of mommy telling daughter mommy’s gonna get you a little girl from Africa is sick. People are not gifts, the whole message is just disturbing.
Star magazine hit the jackpot with this one. expect more like it in the future. people are so easily manipulated by the media it’s frightening.
Give me a break, how do Star supposed to know that? They couldn’t even take any single pic of the twins or even get close to Brangelina’s house, so how are they supposed to hear what Angelina promised to Zahara? When I read comments posted here, I cannot believe how people can be gullible. Scary.
I love Zahara’s fro I hate those tight ass braids . I love that their kids are multilingual and well traveled. I don’t believe anything in the tabloids.
Does this woman for all her wealth have no idea how to feed her children?? What’s with the cheetos?
Ah!!! at last I found what I was looking for. Somtimes it takes so much effort to find even tiny useful piece of information.