The Sussexes ‘hate’ the lazy phrase ‘working members of the royal family’

All weekend, the British press was trying to figure out what to say about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s successful trip to Nottingham last Thursday. Clearly, Buckingham Palace was openly peeved about it, but the mood within the media was different – they still see the value in hating on Prince Harry and Meghan, but they’re also starting to see the value of just covering the Sussexes straight on without defaulting to enraged, snide commentary. Making matters more complicated, the Sussex team has been regularly briefing the media. That has changed the tenor of the coverage too, because Harry and Meghan are narrating their own lives back in the UK instead of leaving it to the Windsors to dictate the talking points. Well, Roya Nikkhah at the Times had a big post-Nottingham story about how much the Sussexes “hate” the phrase “working members of the royal family.” From Tom Sykes’ coverage of the Times piece:

Prince Harry has doubled down, via a conveniently placed “friend,” on his claim to be “a member of the royal family” in the wake of his and Meghan’s shambolic charity visit to Nottingham on Thursday, a day of royal-coded engagements which ended as I exclusively revealed with the couple leaving their final event 15 minutes early enabling them to collect their children from school.

The question of whether or not the Sussexes should be described as “working royals” has become a strange new battleground in Harry and Meghan’s campaign to re-establish themselves as “public figures” in Britain. In comments to the Sunday Times, a source described as a friend (but who anyone who has worked this beat for any length of time will recognize as a member of their press office) said: “’Working members of the royal family’ is a really lazy phrase. He hates it, she hates it. They are not ‘working’ for the institution, but they are members of the royal family, and they work. Their days are built around their family life and their work. She’s running a business seven days a week.”

The friend went on: “Things like Nottingham aren’t done in the name of the institution or the crown, but Harry is the son of the King, he is still a member of the royal family, he’s just not a member of the institution. It’s misleading to call them ‘former royals.’ It has an impact on how they’re perceived and the way people talk about them.”

What we are looking at is a defiant rejection of the very modest attempt by the King, via his Lord Chamberlain, Lord Benyon, to clarify the couple’s position a fortnight after they landed back in the country. A letter was sent at the King’s direction (the Palace was at pains to make clear this was the King’s wish) to government departments, military officials and the lord lieutenants, who are the monarchy’s local representatives in the shires, and it stated that the Sussexes’ position was “akin to private citizens with commercial and charitable interests.”

The couple went into paroxysms of fury when the letter came out. Their side pushed back, via the Telegraph, that they were not private citizens but “public figures,” that they should have been consulted on the contents of the King’s letter, and that it was very damaging to them and generally an outrage. What this weekend’s briefing shows is that the anger has not gone anywhere. They did not accept what was said in the letter then, and they do not accept it now. They are determined to go on being perceived as current members of the royal family, which is precisely what the Palace does not want, because it leads to the establishment of a rival court.

…The Palace, from what I am hearing, is in a state of dismay. They do not know what to do. The feeling is that there is nothing further they can do without the King giving the authority to come down harder, to let it be known to the Sussexes that they are risking their titles. But the Palace is very nervous about even modest steps such as removing them from the royal website, because they do not want to look vindictive, and they are worried that it will stoke the flames and make things worse.

[From The Royalist]

Regarding the somewhat pedantic argument over “working royals” or “members of the royal family who work,” I’d like to see all sides just get over themselves, honestly. This is not a winnable battle for either side. Harry seems hellbent on defining his own special role where he doesn’t really work for the Firm but he’s still sort of a member of the Firm and he does “royal-style” events which look exactly like working-royal events. For the palace and the leftovers, the conversation and issue is about control, about who represents what. The Windsors can’t actually control Harry and Meghan in the larger sense, even if there seems to be some coordination between Harry and his father in the past year. Mostly though, I wish Harry would understand that he doesn’t actually *need* these attachments (both emotional and linguistic) to the Windsors.

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41 Responses to “The Sussexes ‘hate’ the lazy phrase ‘working members of the royal family’”

  1. Nancy says:

    I’m not going to pretend to know what Harry needs, he’s a fully grown adult who can figure that out for himself. What I do know is that they should change that phrase to “publicly funded royals” because they barely work and it’s a bit insulting to people who actually work to imply they are on the same level as a person who works 40+ hours a week.

    • Smart&Messy says:

      That’s such a good idea to start calling them publicly funded royals. The keep parroting the working royal thing to create a false narrative. The “lifelong service” they previously pedalled was over used during QE2’s reign. KC knew he had to come up with something new to brainwash people into thinking they provide value.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        They’re never going to call themselves “publicly funded”. That’s a can of worms they never want to open. And I believe that the ridiculous term “working royals” was coined specifically to marginalize the Sussexes. Clearly, that’s not working for them either since the Sussex return. Yes, Harry needs to be seen as royal and recognized as such. Apparently, that’s the driving force behind this move back. But it’s crazy to me that after insisting all these years that the royals are really, really special, the king can just unroyal his own son. It’s all fascinating to watch. 👀

    • bisynaptic says:

      🎯

    • Magdalena says:

      I think “taxpayer-funded royals” would be more on the nose and definitely drive the point home, and self-funded royals to describe Harry and Meghan. THIS is the distinction the palaces do not want, which is why they coined the misleading “working royals” decription for themselves, even though they don’t actually WORK – just look at the ridiculous PR campaigns by William and Kate.

      They got their friends in the media to keep using “taxpayer-funded” when describing Harry’s fight to give his family adequate protection. Charles, Camilla, William, Kate and all the others who are being ferried around in convoys should have zero problems being described as taxpayer-funded royals, because that’s what they are.

  2. Smart&Messy says:

    I agree with Kaiser here. And go even further by saying that I’m more of a fan of their charity work when it’s more action oriented and not this “visit” situation that is the Windsor style. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy that they were well received (and left unscathed). But Nottingham felt more like a meet and greet rather than charitable action. And it’s OK to do that too, it was an awsome way to show the world how their reality is not the ROTA narrative. However, we know how good they are at the latter. Recent example is the Malala Fund x AsEver initiative. They hurt their brand by framing their actions by the standards of the firm. The association only benefits the Windsors.

    • Smices says:

      The “charitable action” already took place in this instance. Harry donated 1.5 million to Epic Partners and the Community Recording Studio last year. This visit was to see some of the impact of that gift, not merely a meet and greet.

      • Nanea says:

        … and £ 10 000 were donated to Himmah from the profits of the Together cookbook.

      • sunnyside up says:

        Thank you, I never heard that before, but you don’t surprise me, It sounds like a Harry thing to do.

      • Smart&Messy says:

        @SMICES, NANEA I stand corrected. Thank you. Apparently I fell victim of the deliberate obfuscation of the value of their work by this constant mentioning of “royal style engagement”. Apparently, it wasn’t royal style at all, because there was actual impact on the beneficiares. All the more reasons for them to not frame their work according to their association with the Windsors.

    • Beth says:

      I strongly disagree with Kaiser. The Sussexes are and always will be members of the royal family. So they are, factually, royals who work. As are other non-working family members with and without titles – actually there are more non-working royals with titles than working.

      With all the nonsense spewed by the usual culprits to mislead the public, can’t be said often enough imo.

      And the entire planet is aware that the Sussexes don’t officially represent the King and have not been publicly funded royals for over six years. Psycho Sykes and his echo chamber chums are off their rockers.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Harry addressed the working royal thing directly with Chris ship when in Ukraine last year & this latest article is probably a spin off of those comments. Since 2021 the palace has basically tried to act like they have ownership of charity & public service work & that’s why the working v non working royal thing distinction is important. I think they basically wanna say “only pay attention to us ‘working royals’.”

      Harry was asked about the working royal thing and said something like he didn’t get the term but he was a royal who was working and he enjoys the work he does. It’s a bit of a silly phrase as those who aren’t publicly funded actually have to work. I call the royals who do public duties taxpayer funded royals

      Harry donated to CRS and Epic Partners last year & was coming to see progress on the redevelopment of its spaces that his donation was helping to fund. CRS also said there would be more news to come about H&M’s involvement with the CRS’ project

      https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/major-3-million-nottingham-redevelopment-11201684

      Harry also donated to Himmah last year and Meghan had allocated funds from the together cookbook to them. So again it was connecting with a org they had supported with funding previously rather than just coming for a listen and learn exercise.

  3. Lala11_7 says:

    I ❤️ the fact that H&M are pushing their own narrative & actually getting out there & meeting the organizations they pour their time & effort into…ANYTHING they do public facing is going to bring huge publicity & the BONUS is that I get to watch the tired 🇬🇧 Royal Family FINALLY have their hypocritical BS on front street CONSISTENTLY which I KNOW is uncomfortable AF for them🫤

    • Me at home says:

      “Working royal” might be technically correct, as Harry is a royal who works.

      But it’s being used to make dark suggestions of “ half-in,” violations of Sandringham (never mind that Charles violated it first over security), and the Sussexes’ general illegitimacy to do anything besides live in their basement and never venture outside. One of my favorite comments to Sykes’ piece said that this is basically an existential crisis for the BRF, because the public is going to ask why they’re paying £100m annually for CC and WanK when the Sussexes are doing it better and out of their own pockets. So it’s absolutely imperative to keep portraying the Sussexes as failures and keep insinuating they’re violating some sort of agreement (when they’re not). The language around “working royals” is part of this dust and obfuscation campaign

      Maybe we need a new term for how the Sussexes go about their work. I love “publicly-funded royals” suggested above. So the Sussexes world be the “self-funded royals”? Better ideas?

      • Becks1 says:

        “One of my favorite comments to Sykes’ piece said that this is basically an existential crisis for the BRF, because the public is going to ask why they’re paying £100m annually for CC and WanK when the Sussexes are doing it better and out of their own pockets. ”

        This was (in my opinion) the reason behind saying no to the half-in/half-out plan – because it involved H&M not receiving sovereign grant money and earning their own money while still doing events on behalf of the Crown – and that was the real danger to the Firm, because then the public might ask why the rest of the royals couldn’t do the same.

      • Me at home says:

        I might start a thread on the Reddit Royaltytea sub, to really crowd-source a good name for how the Sussexes show up in the world. That would include citing celebitchy for “publicly-funded royals” and “royal house vs. royal family.”

        Does anyone object? I wouldn’t want to offend anyone.

  4. CatGotMyTongue says:

    I’m not taking Syko’s word for anything. Or Nikkah. They’re both full of… you know what. Their words are not worth the pixels they’re printed with.

    My opinion is that the Sussexes are living their lives and not paying attention to any drama. Too bad, rota and derangers!

  5. LisaT says:

    Other European families delineate between royal house and the royal family. The Royal house being the their majesty and HRH.

  6. AR says:

    “ They are determined to go on being perceived as current members of the royal family” — such a pretzel-like stance they’ve contorted themselves into. H&M ARE current members of the family, whether the family wants them to be or not. You don’t just stop being part of a family and definitely can’t brainwash people into forgetting who Harry is. They’re just no longer working on behalf of the family business.

    • Jay says:

      Not to mention the comedy of Sykes (and all of the royal reporters) who write extensively about the Sussexes and then take great umbrage about how the Sussexes are PERCEIVED. Like, my dude, Harry and Meghan don’t decide what gets to be headline news in the British tabloids and royal newsletters! It’s not their fault if the rota prefers to cover them instead of the leftbehinds.

    • Jais says:

      Yeah, I don’t really have an issue with Harry saying he’s still a member of the RF. Bc he is? And the phrase working royals IS asinine.

    • Becks1 says:

      Right? they are absolutely members of the royal family. Harry is the son of the monarch, and the next monarch is his brother. You don’t get much more royal than that.

      I actually like this discussion because I think it highlights the uselessness of the “working royals” and I love that for them. That phrase was coined to try to marginalize and “other” Harry and Meghan so I like to see it turned around on the leftovers – Harry and Meghan are working, what are you doing? Kate is making videos about nature and William is playing cricket. H&M are producing shows/documentaries, running a business (Meghan), working as executives for international companies (Harry), and yes….stopping by to visit organizations that have benefited from their donations.

      they are literally royals who work. Its not their fault that the publicly funded royals do not work (at least the Wales do not.)

  7. Pumpkin says:

    I dont think they want to be known as current members of the (working) family, contrary to Sykes’ reporting. I think the entire point of the Nikkah piece was to say they don’t want to be described as current members of the family but members of the family that are still part of the family, yes but aren’t part of the taxpayer funded part.

    Which sounds more like an image/semantics issue for both H&M and the place. How do you accurately describe H&M without using a “simple” term like “working royals”? There’s no idea (yet) of “people who happen to be royal, will happen to do public engagements but aren’t taxpayer funded and can make their own money”. To a lot of casual people, it sounds like H&M are working royals but they’re not.

    I think they definitely could try and create a new term but will take time for people to get used to it. If they ever do.

    • AR says:

      Right I know it’s the “working” title but it seems like all these Royalists want Harry especially to magically just become another anonymous rando in the crowd. No matter how they define his “role” he’s still the son of Diana and the current king, brother and uncle of the future king, and people are going to be interested in his moves. “He’s no longer a member of our family” is just gaslighting.

    • Lurker says:

      They all are members of the same family, whether they like it or not. The term “working royals” is simply stupid. As said before, Harry and Meghan are royals who work. Hard. While the Wails are hardly working.

      I would distinguish between independent royals and royal members of the institution, taxpayer funded. For short, independents and members of the Firm. Or independent and Balcony. Since Charles only allows the members of the firm on the balcony (and the children of his heir), it is easy to see who is taxpayer funded and who is not.

      They count Zara and Peter as “royals”, though they aren’t working and aren’t allowed on the balcony. Same for the children of Sophie and Edward, no one ever would say they aren’t royal. You could count them as independent royals, too. Plus the York sisters, independent.

  8. Jan says:

    Roya’s face was so bitter, when Meghan passed in front of her, swinging her ponytail.
    I still can’t get over none of these Toads went to Wales to support the king.

  9. Shiela Kerr says:

    I believe Prince Harry feels service and philanthropic work is his calling and what he does well. For me where the muddling occurs is his birthright. From what I can see from afar, he seems to feel as though he was born a Prince, the son of then future King and his mother was Princess Diana. I do not know if he is fighting for his standing as a member of this family because of his mother or memories of his mother being so ostracized by his birth family after his parents divorce ( and his leaving his birth family ) Either way, this goes far deeper than I wish to go because I lack the appropriate psychological training to make any informed analysis.

    I thought the visit they made last week to charities they have supported for years was the proper venue to integrate Meghan back into public life in the UK. In addition, I saw from screen shots how Nikka was stalking Meghan and the nasty look she had on her face while doing so. She is a nasty piece of work.

    • Mairzy Doats says:

      Legally Harry and his children were born royal, ARE royal, with titles and places in the line of succession, and his father, even though monarch, does not have the power to take that away from him and his children. There is nothing psychologically deep about a person protecting the right to their legal identity. Harry is basically saying, I’m royal and I don’t have to explain or ask permission for what exists legally. Just as if I had a long running spat with my father he couldn’t demand that I and my children no longer use the family last name Doats (or Smith or whatever).

      Family businesses, small and large, have this peculiar dynamic of intermingling business with family ties. In this case, Harry is addressing the business/legal side of his status. He IS royal, and the statements from the press that he and Meghan are no longer royal are factually incorrect.

      And Andrew is still legally Prince Andrew, by the way, even with an agreement he not be referred to that way, but presumably he agreed to the arrangement in return for continued monetary subsidy from his brother.

  10. bisynaptic says:

    I understand where Harry is purportedly coming from. He has always stated that he wants to have a relationship with his father, i.e., he considers the Windsors his family, and he wants to be accepted and treated as a member of the family – which he absolutely is. His “friend“ is absolutely correct, as well: the “working royals“ moniker is totally misleading, because these are the royals who are, in fact, actually working the least. Charles created this headache for himself by adopting this misleading PR – charged label. If he had decided to use words like “representatives of the monarch/state“, then there would have been far less press-manufactured confusion. Lastly, the Sussexes have every right to do whatever they want with respect to their charitable endeavors, including public visits, like the one at Nottingham.

  11. sunnyside up says:

    “The couple went into paroxysms of fury.” Doesn’t sound like Harry to me, Made up by a journalist or William?

    • Joanne says:

      All you had to do was look at Roya Nikkhah’s face to see what real paroxysms of fury looked like. She was clearly furious at having to cover Meghan and Harry. If they are so irrelevant, why wasn’t she in Wales covering the King and his sidepiece.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    When you’re brought up in a cult it’s very hard to leave it and as nice as Harry seems he still has that sense of entitlement. It’s not the first time Harry has objected to the term working royal. Remember he pushed back on it when he was interviewed by Chris Ship last year. I agree the working royal is nonsense. Royals don’t work at all.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I will add that the willingness of the press supported by the Palace to call them ex-royals is based on racism. If Meghan was white the press will still be calling her a royal.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      He also said in that interview that “this was the work I was born to do”. Argue with me all you want but Harry very much believes in the “magic blood” and specialness of royalty.

      • ABritGuest says:

        Harry is a monarchist no question.

        But I think that comment about what he was born to do was actually about service. hes talked loads about finding identity and purpose in the military and how ex service members etc can continue to serve their communities. You don’t need to be royal for that. And when they pushed back on the palace’s comment in 2021 that they could no longer do public service when they said they wouldn’t return to duties, they said – service is universal. I think that’s the fundamental issue behind this whole working royal hoopla.

        I think that there are loads of people who are naturally gifted for public service because of their innate leadership, communication or people skills eg Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Zohran Mandami, Princess Diana etc and some who aren’t eg some in the royal family despite that so called special blood.

        I think Harry could have been a decent diplomat even if he hadn’t come to public service through being a royal & it’s his natural flair at it which is why the Queen sent him on many solo tours back in the day and why the brf continues to regard him as a threat.

        Harry said doing public service makes him feel good and he enjoys the work- I don’t necessarily think that’s true for all royals.

        And ps we all know the desire to reduce his royal status is mainly aimed at his wife & their kids

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Brassy Rebel: Harry has said that he believes in the monarchy so there’s no disputing that he thinks he and his family are special. It will probably take its abolition to realise that the Royal Family is no different to anybody else. Heck the Greek Royal Family still think they’re special.

  13. Jay says:

    Prince Harry doesn’t claim to be “a member of the royal family” – he was born one, and he is one, for better or worse. Sykes repeating this nonsense about ‘ooh, they’d better watch it or their precious titles could be taken from them!’ is pathetic. I did laugh at the aside about royal sources -“anyone who has worked this beat for any length of time will recognize as a member of their press office” – given how often Sykes gets his info from a “friend of William”. Might have accidentally given the game away there, bud!

    I have to say that for Sykes, who was often vitriolic about the Sussexes, this article is oddly…halfhearted? It seems like he’s really digging for things to criticize (they left at the end of their day to do the school run!). More interesting to me was the bit at the end where he talks about the dismay felt in “the palace” (I assume he means KP), that they don’t know what to do, and that they wish Charles would come down harder on Harry and Meghan. I mean, we could already tell that the Wales have been in a state of panic about the Sussexes, but Sykes is admitting it, and basically blaming the king for his inaction. That’s a dynamic to watch.

    “Working royals” IS an objectively stupid phrase – you don’t hear about other taxpayer-funded entities having to append “working” to their jobs: Working teacher. Working Prosecutor. Working Street Cleaner. Working Mayor. Nobody else has to add that! In a way, I wonder if it might hurt more than it helps, because if someone calls themselves a “working” royal, the public may have higher expectations to, uh, see them work. The public may look at the work of the royals that they fund next to the royals that they don’t fund and wonder why it is that the ones they pay for are hardly seen.

  14. ShazBot says:

    I’m glad someone at the palace has recognized they would just look vindictive. It means they aren’t listening to all those braying donkeys screeching about the titles, and realize that MOST people don’t pay attention that closely and the royals and their fans just look like weirdos.
    Like the KP bots and their fans correcting every post that calls her Kate Middleton – they come across as lunatics and that was evidenced with the Kylie Kelce thing.

    It’s a bad bad look and they really need to just calm it all down and move on.

  15. ChillinginDC says:

    I don’t see the point in taking their titles away. It would make the Palace look unhinged and also stupid. They keep trying to lump Harry into Andrew’s camp of nonsense and it makes zero sense. And I wish the media would say they are not taxpayer funded “working” Royals. That would shut the RR and everyone else up.

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