One of the big questions around this Thomas Markle situation is “why didn’t Scotland Yard share information with Mexican or American authorities?” The Met obviously found Roslyn Loveless’s letter credible, credible enough to share with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and possibly members of the royal household. So why didn’t they share information with the Mexican authorities, given Thomas Markle was living in Mexico at the time? Or the US authorities, given Thomas is an American citizen? Well, it gets even worse. Apparently, the Met Police are so incompetent, they “lost” Loveless’s letter and had to ask the Duchess of Sussex if she had held on to a copy. SHADY.
The Metropolitan Police was forced to ask the duchess of Sussex for a copy of the letter it had sent her notifying her of serious allegations against her father after the force misplaced its own copy, it has been reported.
Police received the tip about Thomas Markle’s alleged offending outside the UK in January 2019 and passed the letter on to the office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
But after recent allegations came to light over claims child sex abuse material was found at Mr Markle’s house in the Philippines, The Times reports the force had not only failed to act on the tip-off, but had also been unable to locate the original letter.
The duchess had kept her copy and was able to share it with police, it was reported.
The Met “losing” a crucial letter which provided sensitive information about a duchess’s father… well, the British authorities are never beating the allegations. The Met “misplacing” the letter also explains their days-long bulls–t where they basically refused to confirm Meghan’s story. They only remembered the letter when Meghan showed them the receipt. God knows what would have happened if Meghan didn’t keep her own records. That’s not all – the Telegraph reports that the Met Police were warned specifically that Thomas Markle posed a threat to the Sussexes:
The Metropolitan Police was warned that Thomas Markle could pose a threat to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, The Telegraph can reveal. A letter was sent to Scotland Yard in 2019 accusing the Duchess of Sussex’s father of child sexual offences. It can now be revealed that the letter, written by Roslyn Markle (née Loveless), who was married to Mr Markle from 1964 to 1975, also warned he could pose a security risk to both the Duke and Duchess.
She said she felt it was “useful for security and threat assessment units in the UK” to be aware of the “true and unsavoury background” her former husband was accused of. She said she felt he was “a high risk to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and to Doria Ragland [the Duchess’s mother]”.
Mrs Markle added that she had not spoken to the media about the issues raised in the letter.
The Met did not respond when asked by The Telegraph to comment on whether it took any action after being made aware of the potential threat to the newly married royal couple. The letter was sent to the Metropolitan Police’s Fixed Threat Assessment Centre (FTAC), which deals with threats posed to the Royal family and VIPs. The Met is assessing whether to refer itself to the police watchdog over its handling of the correspondence, which was shared with the couple at the time.
It is understood that the Duchess was told not to discuss the letter and had believed that it was being investigated.
So Loveless not only specified her ex-husband’s crimes against children, she also raised the alert that Thomas posed a unique security threat to Meghan, Harry and Doria. And that’s the letter the Met lost and refused to pass along to other agencies. That’s the letter they themselves refused to investigate, despite Thomas Markle traveling to the UK a few times.
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I’ve been thinking since it was said that the Met did FA with the letter and allegations that the BaRF’s fingerprints are *all over this*! I’ll be shocked if this doesn’t eventually land in their laps as well. Vipers, every one of them.
I think you’re right but I’d imagine the met police will fall on the sword for the RF. Even now, saying they lost it. Nah, I’d imagine they lost it on purpose at the request of someone. And it wasnt Meghan.
💯%!
Some members of MET police lost their jobs over racist WhatsApp messages about Meghan.
When Kate showed up for a vigil during Covid, unmasked, the police report said it was Meghan. Until a woman which was arrested at the vigil sued and pictures showing clearly Kate popped up. Then it was framed as a “work event” for Kate, not a “private visit to the vigil to show her support”, and Meghan’s name was rightly replaced with Kate.
Now MET “lost” and “found” a letter with serious allegations, decided to forward it to Palace security and to forget about it. No British citizen, no British victims, not our job. A threat risk for Meghan? Let the Palace deal with it.
Doesn’t really give you a good feeling about the London MET.
The corgi ate my Met is assuming they were scoring points with the palaces while potentially risking the safety of the Sussexes. This is downright dangerous.
The elephant in the room that MSM is seemingly reluctant to address is did the Palace pressure the Met into suppressing allegations in Roslyn Loveless’ letter by not referring to cross-border child protection agencies while silencing Meghan for legal reasons? Hmmm …. 🤔
I saw a story earlier today about some “journalist” (Shuter?) suggesting QEII suppressed everything for the good of the monarchy.
I’m firmly with Eurydice on this, the queen would do anything in her power to protect the monarchy (including giving Andrew millions to pay Virginia Giuffre) so this makes complete sense. While they saw Meghan as a threat they didn’t want anything damning coming out about anyone connected to the family.
There’s a very simple reason why the RF family would suppress this case: Andrew. If the story came to light and Thomas Markel was arrested, that would simply highlight the injustice of Andrew’s case.
yes, I think the palace did pressure the Met into making the letter disappear. Andrew’s criminal “activities” were gaining steam in the press (this was january 2019, by november 2019 he felt he had to give that interview) and I can see someone in the palace deciding this didn’t need to be another headline. And they were okay with making that call regardless of the victims, the risk to H&M, etc.
And lets not forget that the palace knew about this and STILL sanctioned the whole “meghan needs to reconcile with her father” push in the press.
@Eurydice – while TQ’s habit of sticking her head in the sand has been discussed more than once, I still question anything she’s supposedly said or done after the end of 2017. In 2017, Philip finally retired, Charles (and Andrew) had succeeded in ousting Geidt as TQ’s longtime private secretary, and Charles’ man, Edward Young, had been elevated in Geidt’s place. Which means, while it’s possible TQ was made aware of the letter, and possible she could have surpressed it, it’s also possible she was not informed by Young. I have no doubt Charles was fully aware, however.
Absolutely. The press focusing on Meghan takes the heat off of the Palace and I think it’s deliberate.
Given all the issues H&M have had with RAVEC, police protection, security while in the UK, etc., I’m curious how this – the knowledge that Scotland Yard not only did nothing about a credible threat to the Duke & Duchess, but “lost” the evidence relating to it, factors into all this?
It seems to me like it is further evidence of coordinated attempts to *increase* risk and potential harm to H&M.
Because there is no way the BRF didn’t know about the letter, and there is no way Scotland Yard is *this* incompetent. This was on purpose.
@DK, this is always my concern— even once things are “settled” —and if, for argument’s sake, the Sussexes are granted the security they’ve been seeking (and rightfully deserve), I would not be able to trust a thing out of anyone in that family- or the BM or *any* palace employees and now, no one at the Met as well. I would never trust that an unfortunate “accident” befalling one of them was a pure accident.
Going to be honest, not British but I’m a lawyer and come from a legal/law enforcement family, this is SHOCKING. Way more than I could have imagined when this first broke. The behavior of the Met is inexplicable.
“It is understood that the Duchess was told not to discuss the letter”.
So. They not only didn’t forward this information on, but they also told the only other person aware of the allegations not to discuss (pursue) what it said. The only legitimate reason I can imagine law enforcement giving an instruction like this is because they had concerns about revealing an investigation. It’s the same as sharing it with Meghan in the first place, only if it had credible information that was deemed worthy of investigation would you advise not to discuss it.
As a minor point, it’s actually quite strange they gave Meghan a hard copy of the letter (or sent it so she could print). Thank goodness she had a copy, but again from an investigative perspective that’s wild behavior. You don’t give copies of incriminating information to people where what happens to it is completely outside the Met’s control. Meghan obviously was very responsible and didn’t share it with anyone. But, as a general matter, giving copies of evidence of crimes to the family member of a potential suspect is INSANE.
The Met definitely needs to report itself.
Meghan was a working royal then, which makes me wonder what other sensitive documents are given to the royal family…and then lost.
Right?? This isn’t a slam on Meghan herself at all, she clearly behaved completely responsibly. But, it’s not like the Met was like “oh it is Meghan, we can trust her specifically”. No. This seems more like as you say based on her status, not an assessment of her trustworthiness, which suggests it’s how they interact with Royals generally. Which is INSANE!
It’s one thing to provide copies of threats to a member of the Royal family if they are at risk so they can be aware. But, that is (or should be) really secondary here. Any threat Markle posed to Meghan is way less important than the threat he posed to CHILDREN.
I completely agree with you. I wonder how much confidential police evidence is shared with the Royal family and then finds it way to the media….
It’s not that minor a point – it’s deeply strange. Maybe the Met police are really that incompetent or maybe this has the messy fingerprints of BP all over it, which is notorious for both convoluted plans and sticking its head in the sand.
What’s so sad is that Meghan seems to be the only person who appreciated what mattered about this letter. The Met seems to have viewed it purely from a PR or “risk” to the Royal family. Meghan understood it as being about risks to *children* of being sexually assaulted or raped. I wonder if the “investigation” Meghan was told about by the Met meant just in terms of Markle causing problems for the Royal family, whereas Meghan clearly thought they meant they would investigate or forward to the appropriate authorities the actual CRIMES laid out in the letter. It definitely suggests the Met doesn’t view sex crimes or sex trafficking as serious, but just PR matters. Disgusting.
Like let’s say meghan interpreted that letter as TM’s ex wife just being angry about something from the past and trying to punish him, so she ignored it, or passed it on to her father in a “can you believe she would say this” kind of way. Like…there was clearly no investigation and the Met did nothing with that letter (besides losing it.) But if they were investigating, and Tom Markle now knows about it and has the opportunity to remove evidence – like WTF met???
obviously Meghan was responsible about it, took it seriously, and trusted that others would do the same.
instead they LOST it. This wasn’t a random letter that I sent to the Met about Betty crocker in Crows Beak England. This was a letter regarding the father of a granddaughter in law of the Queen, future daughter in law of the next king, whose children are relatively high in the LOS (even though Archie wasn’t born yet.)
It was either due to sheer incompetence or because they were instructed to “lose it.” and either warrants investigation.
Highly recommend the book “London Falling: A Mysterious Death in a Gilded City”. It will change how you think about UK law enforcement.
This exactly. I was scanning these comments to see if anyone had this same reaction.
It’s on my TBR pile – I’m on a total Patrick Radden Keefe jag. Just finished “Say Nothing” and “Empire of Pain.” Highly recommend both.
Yes. That’s an excellent (and pretty disturbing) book.
The Met are constantly involved in scandals – multiple sex offenders in their ranks, corruption, incompetence, and more. And because they’re the London police force, a high degree of political manoeuvring comes into play too. They are a shambles.
That surprised me as well, that the Met would show Meghan a copy of the letter with the allegations or let her copy it. If I put on my tinfoil tiara, I wonder if someone at the Met made sure she had a copy because they suspected the original might be mysteriously misplaced in their files. Perhaps they had seen it before.
The elephant in the room that MSM is seemingly reluctant to address is did the Palace pressure the Met into suppressing allegations in Roslyn Loveless’ letter by not referring to cross-border child protection agencies while silencing Meghan for legal reasons? This would be absolute dynamite and may be in the withheld 400 pages of Harry’s memoir.
Oh wow! I had not thought of that at all. That certainly would be an interesting wrinkle to this.
I just feel so heartbroken for Meghan. I’m really grateful to Roslynd for sending this information to Meghan so that Meghan could (and did) protect her own children. But, exactly as Meghan said in her first statement, she thought that other families and children were also going to be protected. I cannot imagine knowing that no other children were protected at all. I can’t imagine who much of the child sex abuse found in Markle’s home post-dates this letter. Absolutely sickening.
My dad is a retired defense attorney (I promise he’s not evil), and when he read that they gave a copy to Meghan, he knew that I’d probably be following the story and texted me to ask what was going on. He thought maybe some gossip rag was was confused or misreporting based on a bad AI summary or something, because yeah, that seems incredibly inappropriate and compromising.
So how else and when else has The Met bent procedure for The Firm? That question needs investigation.
I’m convinced that the Met reported this letter matter to other senior royals BEFORE showing it to Meghan. This seems to be the way they do things. And maybe even that the Met “misplaced” the letter at the suggestion of senior royals. We all know how they view sex crimes against women and children. By “misplacing” the original letter with allegations that TM also posed a threat to Meghan’s family, including her mother — the same man who regularly trotted over to England for interviews — the Met would not consider that part to be too important. I mean, we all see that the Met would have little, if any, jurisdiction to investigate alleged crimes that happened in Mexico or the Philippines, but the threats against Meghan’s family by a man who came to England several times a year WERE under the Met’s jurisdiction.
Defense attorneys are important! Everyone’s entitled to defense.
That said, I agree with you and your dad: This stinks to high heaven.
@debbie, yeah, I agree with you that it would be protocol for the senior royals to be alerted about the letter first and for all the principles to be made aware as it would have been considered a security risk for all of them from Kate to William to Charles to the Queen. It would be absurd to think that they were not all made aware.
Lawyer here as well, and agree with you.
On the point of why Meghan got a copy— who knows. But there are tons of thank yous that she had a copy.
@LadyE & Ciotog: I completely agree with you. Also, the awkwardness of the phrase, “It is understood that the Duchess was told not to discuss the letter and had believed that it was being investigated” caught my attention. At first, the Met police waffled about whether they’d ever shared a letter with Meghan, then later when the actual letter came to light, they admitted it. That phrase above stating that the Duchess “had believed that it was being investigated” feels disingenuous. Why acknowledge (finally) that Meghan was told not to discuss the letter but then distance yourself again by saying that Megan “believed” that the case/allegations against Thomas Markel were being investigated. It’s only natural for the subject, Meghan, to ask what is being done about the allegations and to be told not to discuss, but then the Met must follow it up by saying, “We’ll take care of it” or “We’ll forward it to the appropriate authorities” otherwise it just looks like the Met was doing a cover-up.
To me it’s like the Met saying, “Look at the terrible allegations in this letter, Duchess. Now, don’t tell anybody!” “Oops, we ‘misplaced’ the letter.” And, then after Meghan’s public statement last week, the Met’s odd initial response of “Letter? What letter?” As if the events before didn’t take place just because they threw away or discarded the original letter. Kind of like a criminal thinking “No body/no crime” or in this case “No letter/no threats.” Then, imagine having to rely on Meghan safeguarding her copy of the letter and indirectly preserving evidence for the Met. These people are outrageous AND incompetent.
Who investigates the MET?
@Debbie
💯 and,compromised.
@samipup: apparently, the Met itself. And we see how well that is going.
I understand the argument that MET did not investigated the allegations made by Roslyn Loveless because Thomas Markle is US citizen and the alleged crimes did happen outside the UK and therefore outside the MET police service jurisdiction.
However it appears that this letter also included information about a possible threat posed by Thomas Markle Sr to Harry, Meghan and Meghan’s mother Doria Ragland. Harry is UK citizen, Harry and Meghan were living in the UK at that time and were part of the working royal family.
Based on this information would there not have been a role for the MET police service to investigate the possible threat level posed by Thomas Markle Sr to Harry, Meghan and Doria, working with other police service and doing enhanced vetting to gather information?
You would think……
How many times was Toxic Tom interviewed by Piers Morgan, Camilla’s very good friend?
Probably handed over to RAVEC which said, nah, nothing to see here.
Yeah, regarding Meghan having a hard copy. I don’t think the Met itself gave her the letter. She said “it was shared with her” and “she was advised”… I think it’s going to come out that people in BP and KP (e.g. Knauf and William) were informed about the letter and of course someone like Knauf and possibly also the Wasp requested a copy because they seem to like to bank letters and other forms of communication as future leverage. I suspect that Meghan got a copy because she personally requested it after those two tried to use it to ramp up the pressure on her (threatening to send it to the press?). And unfortunately for them, she KEPT it. They no doubt would have expected her to destroy it, because the allegations were so horrific. They underestimated her again. More fool them.
It’s clear from the scrambling that neither the Met nor the palaces expected Meghan to (a) have a copy and (b) produce it so speedily. They had no doubt been hoping to stretch out the negativity for weeks, encouraging the people who had already begun to call her a liar due to the Met’s claim not to have received it, and instead Meghan is once again getting worldwide sympathy and people are drawing parallels with her cutting off her father vs the white royals embracing Andrew even *after* further damaging allegations and photos of him with Epstein and victims came to light.
This.
Yeah idk how it happened but I just can’t imagine the Met went directly to Meghan. They didn’t just ring her up. They would have went through someone who worked in one of the palace offices. But I love the idea that none of them realized Meghan had a copy. No one from the Met police or the RF.
LOLOL
If the Musk documentary was a flop, it’s because Musk the man succeeded in suppressing it.
I’m shocked the police lost the letter!
Thank goodness that Meghan keeps receipts, but it’s galling that she has to. And again, why should anyone trust these same law enforcement authorities to protect her from harm? They apparently can’t even ensure the safety of a single sheet of paper.
From a wider perspective, it hurts whatever credibility the police still have. As a survivor of a crime or someone who suspects a crime, you could go through all the retraumatizing details and put yourself on the record and then nothing gets done. A report sits on the shelf or gets “misplaced”, and certainly no justice happens. But, don’t worry, they’re seriously thinking about giving themselves a talking to!
For me, it’s simple: those who “lose” evidence of horrific crimes should “lose” their jobs.
The Met has also lost evidence relating to Prince Andrew and Virginia Guiffre.
And the Westminster pdf dossier in the 1980s, too.
I don’t think Toxic Tom has ever traveled to the UK. He was supposed to be there for the wedding and after that he threatened to travel to the UK. Dan Wootton was making arrangements for him to go over the UK for Charles’ coronation but that when they believed that Meghan would be there. Anyway I’m not surprised the Met “lost” the letter. They can’t find any of the RPO records of Andrew being with Epstein.
Yeah I don’t think any of his interviews were done from the uk.
This gets worse and worse: allegations of serial predation against children SHOULD as a matter of urgency have been forwarded to the relevant law enforcement to investigate. Children were potentially put at risk due to incompetence. Losing the letter? Unbelievable!
“Incompetence” seems to me like a very generous assessment.
Obviously, Scotland Yard was too busy investigating Andrew all that time. The Palaces were too busy investigating the bullying charges against Meghan.
Am I crazy to think that maybe this is why they moved out of the US? When did Thomas Markle move back to the US?
He’s in Florida, though, clear on the other side of the country.
Literally all they had to do was pass it along through their preexisting channels to do that. That’s it. He wasn’t usher their jurisdiction, he wasn’t even a British citizen.
Doesn’t this make RF and The Firm’s mistreatment of Meghan even more shocking and sinister.
Did they literally want to bury her? Drive her over the edge, destroy her, cause miscarriage, destroy marriage to retain and control harry?
All of this is a wretched ugly tale of systematic bullying of a vulnerable pregnant woman and then new mother and child. Relentless, vicious and cruel.
One of the ugliest aspects of a horrific tale is how T Markle willingly and with vindictive enjoyment was used by The Firm and BM as a battering ram against his own daughter. The irony was lost on T Markle that the people who he is collaborating with , hold him in complete contempt. They were enjoying him selling out his own daughter for their cash because they viewed ALL the Markles with disdain. In their eyes it was a double win: father and two lowlife half siblings act like trash for cash. They win twice creating two narratives: Meghan MUST be horrible for cutting off her dad and or, dad and half siblings are trash so Meghan MUST also be trash.
Only Doria and Meghan have behaved with integrity in their dealings with T Markle and his two eldest off spring. And the first wife is to be commended for caring about Meghan and her children sufficient to write that letter, what a pity it wasn’t acted upon years ago.
I’m old enough to remember when Scotland Yard was portrayed as the gold standard in law enforcement. Now I wonder was that ever true or have they always been an enforcement arm not of the law but of the Windsors.
For a monarchy with no real power, the BRF really seems to control the British establishment — including law enforcement.
I 100% could see the palace telling Scotland Yard to “lose” the letter or at least bury it in a drawer somewhere. This is so crooked. And heartbreaking for the children who never stood a chance of justice because the palace was most concerned with covering up potential scandals.
You’ve uncovered the dirty little secret of the monarchists. The monarchy is much more powerful than they’re willing to let on. That works to the establishment’s advantage.
This all happened during the Andrew scandal too, during the time of that ridiculous interview he gave (in which he lied through his teeth for the duration). So the RF “couldn’t afford” another scandal. They truly are evil.
The only way this makes sense if the letter was rambling and the (actual, true) charge was almost buried in a whole lot of other stuff. Eg, if Roslyn Loveless said “my ex is an evil shape-shifting lizard, he was a CIA assassin and also he’s a child abuser who killed JFK” and the Met’s attitude was “welp, she’s nuts but we better show this to Meghan to let her know that it all might end up in the public realm if this lady keeps on”. And Meghan thought: “Hmm, she seems unwell but there is something real in this, somewhere – I’ll keep my kids away just in case and if there is more to it I’m sure the Met will let me know.” And of course she later discovered that yeah, she was spot on in her instincts but actually the Met filed it all in the bin.
Here’s the thing, though, it wasn’t a rambling letter from a nutso. In fact, I think a lawyer wrote & sent the letter on her behalf. These phrases, ‘ “useful for security and threat assessment units in the UK”; “true and unsavoury background”; “a high risk to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and to Doria Ragland [the Duchess’s mother]”’ are not rambling, nor are they those of an unwell person. I would also argue that the average American woman wouldn’t even know about British ‘threat assessment units’, that seems like a lawyerly thing to me.
This just looks like the Met are dumb and have no common sense.
“The Met is assessing whether to refer itself to the police watchdog…” Did anyone else think that was hilarious, but also ridiculous? Insert Rowan Atkinson here when the fictionalized movie version is made. But also, I have been lurking here and reading comments on all these “TM is a pdf” posts, but not all, so maybe I missed it, but I haven’t seen a worry about Meghan directly. As a survivor of childhood SA and knowing how much time she spent with her dad…. I’m concerned is all I’ll say. I hope she is ok, either way this is hugely stressful.
I’m trying really hard not to be a conspiracy theorist but this is just plain weird. Were they told not to transfer anything just so that they could bully and harass Meghan for a few more years ?
Did Meghan actually see the letter? Or did she see the report from the Met police about the letter? I thought that was what she initially said? That the police sent the report to her and Royalty and Special Protection. And I thought initially the report said the letter was anonymous? Now all of a sudden it’s from the ex-wife who conveniently is dead.
I’m still waiting for an apology from the right-wing press for constantly mischaracterising Meghan as a cold-hearted mean girl who abandoned her poor old pa, left bereft in his hour of need. Instead she is a mother who wants to keep her kids safe. But I won’t hold my breath.
They are shameless and seem angry they can no longer use her severed contact with her father against her, so trying to blame her based on allegations. Also the letter mentioned that Thomas was a threat to her, Harry and her mom. That is very serious, especially when they were already getting a high level of threats. At the time, the Meghan made Kate cry narrative was circulating, and a month after this, the Mail published her private letter to her father. On top of this she was isolated behind the palace machine. They really wanted to crush her and think she was given that letter as a means to hurt her more than help any potential victims. I wouldn’t be surprised if the dad went back to the US to avoid the law in the Philippines. Same reason he suddenly quit Mexico.
‘The Met is assessing whether to refer itself to the police watchdog ….’ WHAT??!?!?!?!?! You mean they haven’t done that yet? We were told that the Met was reporting itself to that watchdog organization (can’t remember the acronym) and now they’re saying they’re just thinking about it??? They are never, ever getting their reputations back, ever. No amount of James Bond movies, wait, that’s MI6; no amount of Thomas Lynley, Prime Suspect, Miss Scarlett TV series is going to improve their image. These guys are the Keystone Cops.
When it comes to investigating sexual assaults, trafficking and exploitation, the Met is notorious inept, deliberately incapable/unwilling, and has a deep systemic problem with misogyny.
Research Wayne Couzens and David Carrick, 2 ex-Met police officers. Read about them and you will understand the reality of finding Justice. Like the rest of the world, whether it’s Europe, Asia, N. America, Australia, this is an ongoing problem.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jan/08/failure-to-properly-vet-officers-resulted-in-serial-rapists-within-met-ranks-review-finds
So… hold up. Meghan originally remembered being informed of the situation with her father in 2018. The Met then contradicts her to say it was Jan 2019. Her POX then says..( I paraphrase) Okay… she may have been unable to remember the exact date due to lack of diary entries, time lapse, etc… she was was few months off, but if the Met has a time-stamped copy of the letter sent to the Duchess… etc…
And now they DON’T have the original letter??
They did nothing with the allegations, and had no intention of doing anything with those allegations
But are those phrases from the letter itself? If so then I agree but it seems more like these are from the Men’s account of the letter now.