Just so you know, this story upset me so much that I had to calm myself with Clive Owen photos. Remember all of the drama with Fantasia Barrino several months ago? Bossip and other sites had been calling Fantasia out for more than a year for boning a married dude named Antwaun Cook. Antwaun’s wife Paula filed for divorce and cited ‘Tasia in the filing, so it became a matter of public record that ‘Tasia was “the other woman.” Not just that – Paula also claimed that Fantasia harassed her and tried to “force” Paula into leaving Antwaun. First, Fantasia tried to deny that crap, then she made a suicide attempt (by taking a bunch of aspirin and calling her manager, who was in the next room). She was hospitalized for a short time, then she made a somewhat full confession that she and Antwaun were lovers, and that she had been misled, et cetera. It was all part of her reality show. Shortly after her hospitalization, the tabloids (and photo evidence) began to indicate that Fantasia was pregnant with Antwaun’s love child. And now we’re finding out that she really was… and that she had an abortion:
Fantasia Barrino has admitted she got pregnant by her married lover Antwaun Cook and had an abortion around the time of her failed suicide attempt, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned. The American Idol winner made the sensational confession in a North Carolina court on Monday during Cook’s divorce proceeding with his ex-wife Paula.
Facing questions before a Mecklenburg County Court judge, the famous singer, 26, was pressed on whether she knew Cook was living with Paula when they embarked on their illicit affair. The Idol season three winner has acknowledged she dated Cook “off and on for about 11 months” but said she believed he had separated from his wife.
In court, lawyers for the scorned wife pressed Fantasia about a hotel rendezvous that took place just a few days after meeting one another.
“Paula’s lawyer is arguing that they got the room because she knew he was still married,” one onlooker – who was inside the court – told RadarOnline.com.
There were no reporters in the courtroom and witnesses were asked to leave as Fantasia took the stand. But multiple sources, including a Cook family source, confirmed Fantasia’s explosive testimony to RadarOnline.com.
Fantasia became the center of a celebrity cheating scandal when she famously got the name “Cook” tattooed on her collarbone in honor of Antwaun. As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Fantasia – who is still dating Antwaun – attempted to kill herself in August by taking an overdose of aspirin after reading a court complaint filed by Paula naming her as a home wrecker.
“It just became heavy for me, so I just wanted to be away from the noise,” Fantasia said in a television interview.
Paula is now considering suing Fantasia over the unique Alienation of Affection law.
Alienation of Affection is a law still recognized by only seven states – one of which is North Carolina – where an abandoned spouse can file lawsuit against the party responsible for the failure of their marriage, typically the adulterous spouse’s lover.
Fantasia and Paula recently failed to settle their differences through private mediation after a marathon 12-hour session on November 1.
“Paula is not doing too well, having to hear all this in court and replay it all over, she’s emotionally torn,” one source close to the woman told RadarOnline.com.
[From Radar]
Well… at least we know now that all of those tabloid reports were true. I kind of believed them too. I’m actually surprised that Fantasia had an abortion – isn’t she super-religious? Granted, her Christianity didn’t stop her from boning a married man for a year, but I thought abortion was the really big one, you know? It’s sad… but I also totally understand that thought process, and adding that layer of complication to the story of Paula filing for divorce and the suicide attempt… well, it makes a little more sense. She was probably several months pregnant at the time. Not that it makes it better, it just makes slightly more sense.
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jesus take the wheel
Gross, gross, gross, everything about her is gross. Everything about this story is gross.
Remember the made for tv movie about her? All of the previews showed her barfing on the dinner table…to which her sister (?) yelled, “YOU’RE PREGNANT!”
Sounds about right.
and this is why court documents should be sealed. regardless of what anyone thinks about fantasia or of her decision to pursue a relationship with a married man, the decision to have an abortion is never easy and should have never been revealed. it’s a deeply personal choice and should be disclosed only when the woman decides to.
Where is the contempt for the sleazy guy – the one who was actually married? I don’t say that Fantasia is blameless in this whole thing, especially regarding the pregnancy. She has a kid already, she knows the repercussions o unprotected sex. I just don’t understand what Cook’s wife stands to gain by dragging all of this out in open court. I get it, she was wronged and she hates “the other woman.” But it takes two- and this guy sounds like a real piece of work!
Normally I look at these types of lawsuits and wonder why anyone would follow through with suing over this but I will have to say that seeing how Fantasia has behaved over the last year I can completley understand why the wife is doing this. What annoys the crap out of me about this whole situation is 2 things. The fact that Fantasia’s name is being lumped in with people who have genuinely tried to commit suicide and the fact that there are children involved. She dated a married man, that she knew was married, with no regard for her kid or his. Then had the nerve to throw the man a public birthday party at a club around the same time that she was claiming that he wasn’t married but he was still going home to his wife. She went and got a tatoo of his name on her collarbone while he was still married to another women. All of these things were being documented as they happened on other sites so there was no way she didn’t know that he was married and that she was helping him to inflict pain and embarrassment on another women. She seems to have no regard for anyone but herself and I’ll assume that he is the same.
LOL @ bite me, you always crack me up.
Uhh my mom loves Fantasia and we all voted for her, well once they sent my girl J-Hud home, we all voted for her. I never got the impression she is super religious but she is religious.
This is sad and everything but this girl didn’t come from a very stable life and didn’t have the best people in her world, she has a lot of growing up to do. I only wish her the best for her and her daughter.
@ Kim: I agree completely.
To win a suit for alienation of affection you have to show a financial loss. This is usually done when a couple is in business together. It’s not just when one spouse cheats on another. It’s difficult to win and most lawyers won’t touch it with a ten foot pole. You can bet the one who took this case is a sleazebag.
@Kim: I could not agree more.
@Kim, ITA. This isn’t anybody’s business but Fantasia’s.
not the first entertainer to do either of those things. Paul Newman was married when he became romantically involved with Joanne Woodward and got her pregnant during the filming of their first movie together. though they actually married and were for nearly 51 years and she miscarried on their honeymoon which some people consider the same as abortion. Fantasia was cruel for choosing to abort the baby it’s not the 50’s anymore where that was done to save a womans career like Patricia Neal for example when she had an affair with the very married Gary Cooper
Classy. She’s financially secure and chose not to use birth control, so aborts. I’m all for a woman’s right to choose. But she is an adult who is financially secure and the father is in her life.
But I do love her new album. Never was interested in her music, until I heard the album was selling well and had good reviews, so bought it. Really good job by Fantasia, catchy songs.
this whole situation just sucks. super bad to deal with having that officially on the public record…why didn’t they get that shit sealed?!?
Sometimes I read these stories and I just say, “Well. I got nothin’ to say to that.” This is one of those times.
I wish more states would enforce Alienation of Affection. It gives consequences to people’s selfish actions. Makes you think twice about doing something so rotten. Yes, it’s the husband who is the real scumbag here but Fantasia was not innocent. I think people who willingly know that someone is married or in a relationship and don’t care, well they deserve everything they get. I don’t feel sorry for Fantasia and growing up in a dysfunctional household should not excuse someone’s poor behavior.
@Marjalane: Ditto.
@Courtney
Some people consider miscarriage the same as abortion? Could you clarify this statement because either I am not understanding something or that is the dumbest thing I have ever read.
I’m not usually a supporter of abortion, but in this instance it actually makes a lot of sense to me. She downed a bottle of aspirin while pregnant. It seems highly unlikely that the fetus wasn’t affected by that. To bring a child potentially born with health issues into a situation as screwed up as this one would be a horrible thing to do.
@courtney
Boy, you sure are getting your money’s worth out of that comment! You manage to weave that into just about every thread.
And for the record- I still find it random and odd, and question “you” every single time you post it!
I “almost” find it as amusing as “Taurus” (is that who?) and her “MJ for Hot Guy Friday” campaign! 🙂
@kim…agreed.
I’m always struck by how absolutely dumb she is. Have you ever heard her speak? She has acknowleged that she is illiterate. I love how she is supposedly so religious yet thinks nothing about having an abortion. Ah, the hypocrisy of the religious. Her current haircut makes her look like an acorn.
It is none of anyone’s business whether she had an abortion or not. As for saying it’s the same as a miscarriage…that’s just utterly stupid.
I love how everybody here is blaming Fantasia for everything. What about the husband? He is the one who vowed to respect and love his wife – not Fantasia! So, why condemn Fantasia for throwing the party? Condemn him for celebrating away from his family!
And… I do believe that she thought he wasnt married. I dont care about Fantasia, I dont think I have ever heard one of her songs. But, I can see him thinking he scored a celebrity and doing everything on his capacity to try to get a relationship with her. Of course he is going to lie about his marital status.
I’m wondering whether the suicide attempt was before or after the abortion?
And I’m sorry, but killing a baby because timing or circumstance are “inconvenient” is morally reprehensible.
Co-signing with Kim… the release of her medical information is highly inappropriate and ILLEGAL.
And lets stop bashing her for her decision to abort…just because one is religious or claims to be religious doesn’t mean they can’t make mistakes or what they see as committing a sin. She has some serious growing up to do and hopefully she’ll learn her lesson once this over and done with. This whole thing with suing someone because your spouse cheated is ridiculous…the issue is with you and your spouse not the 3rd party, regardless of how much they claim not to know. He’s a grown a** man who was not forced into doing anything and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did tell her that he was eventually leaving his wife so on and so forth and Fantasia was dumb enough to fall for it and tag along. Once again the dirty dog walks away looking clean and woman is dragged through the mud.
omg, that THING she’s wearing is hideous. she does not have the body for that outfitty thing. bleh!
i won’t comment on the story itself because it disgusts me
@Jezi – there you are! 😉 Glad you’re back, and I agree 100% with everything you said. I hate it when people “blame” their childhood for what occurs in their adult lives. I believe everyone has the ability to change their thoughts and their situation (not saying it’s easy, but it’s certainly not impossible). I am at the point where I think everything she does these days is for nothing but attention.
@Jen – I’m wondering the same thing…
Kim (#3), well said.
To win a suit for alienation of affection you have to show a financial loss. This is usually done when a couple is in business together.
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Not true!! You only have to show that the other woman “stole” your husband’s affections. Read the law. Several women have won and they have received lots of money from the other woman. You don’t have to be in “business” together, you just have to be the wronged spouse.
If Fantasia was “several months pregnant” then having an abortion was wrong. But she is ignorant enough to do something like that. The woman has zero education and cannot even read. She is also a total ghetto bunny. I am so happy Jennifer Hudson turned out to be the star and this ghetto ‘ho is just another struggling singer.
This whole story just makes me sad.
@ Kim – I couldn’t agree more. As far as I’m concerned, any time children are involved (be they the divorcing couple’s or those of an “involved” third party), court records/testimony should be sealed. If I’m not mistaken, Family Court records are sealed in CA (one of the few things CA actually did right!).
And correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the GUY the one who “alienated affection” – I mean, he is/was her husband after all. Bet me: if he had $$$$, wifey would be suing HIM!
Last I looked a married man coming on to you and you sleeping with him is not a compliment….
Sure she had a hard up bringing but the drama has to stop sometime and hooking up with a married man is drama, and inviting drama into your life, then trying to spin it to gain the most publicity is just sickening to me.
Sure the married manwhore is to blame but Fan could have said no just like other people do when they get hit on by a married person, so yes she is just as guilty as him.
@happygirl – hey there!!!!
I call bs on the fact that she was unaware that he was still married and not separated. You have to be brain dead to fall for that line. Unless he moved in with Fantasia and spent every waking moment with her, I highly doubt she was blindsided by the fact that he was still married. I think she knew and didn’t care. Perhaps he did try to convince her that he was going to leave his wife, but if you are a self respecting woman, you wait until he actually does. Sorry, I blame both parties.
So the baby got to pay for her screwing a married man? She faked a suicide knowing she was pregnant. She took a bottle of pills knowing she was pregnant. All about her eh? I really hope this sick bitch pays for what she did to an innocent. And before I get jumped, I am not against abortions. But this was a me me me situation where she only thought of herself. She has a daughter, what the hell is wrong with her? Her selfishness beggars belief. This story makes me feel sick and sad and really, really, angry.
@kiki…was about to ask the same question, how in heavens name is an abortion and a miscarriage the same effing thing. Please dont say anything at all concerning topics like this if you really dont have any idea what you are talking about.
I agree too, Kim.
She’s still seeing him??? Wake up, woman.
“…her Christianity didn’t stop her from boning a married man for a year, but I thought abortion was the really big one…”
I think suicide ranks right up there.
What I don’t get is that she had the time to get his name tattooed on her collarbone but she didn’t know he was married? Uh-uh, not buying it. As for the Alienation of Affection law, good luck with that. It ain’t the adulterous spouse’s lover who’s responsible for the failure of a marriage, there were are at least 2 other people to share the blame. Maybe some day women will stop blaming other women and put the blame squarely where it belongs, on the men who are doing the cheating.
I’m glad this moron isn’t continuing to spawn.
Fantasia needs to put a lot of love and energy into her daughter that she abandoned with her “suicide attempt”. Even though it was a “cry for help” – that selfish shit affects the psyche of a child.
This selfish pig upsets me to no end. I’m glad I’m going into the mountains to play with friends today, because honestly, this woman’s stupidity makes me ruminate hard.
Disgusting woman.
She is fugly. I don’t listen to her music and I just plain do not like her.
@ jezi 🙂 Oh, girl…she ABSOLUTELY knew! (IMO) and didn’t give a crap about the wife:
After they separated the wife reveals in the court documents that she and Fantasia exchanged words over the phone where Fantasia said, “He don’t want you. Maybe the next time that you get a husband you’ll know how to keep him. That’s why he is here with me.”
She knew this would come out. It did. She knew the world would judge her for being a homewrecker, and, so…the pity party ensued. Yes, both parties are to blame, no doubt.
@KIM….. Sing it Sista!! That is soo wrong on so many levels to publish something so private.
I feel really badly for her and her daughter. She must be suffering from some really low self-esteem issues and experiencing some really deep problems in order to be making these really bad life decisions lately. Really.
Good Lord!! What a piece of trash she is. You can’t fix stupid.
Wow. How sad all around. I hope these supposed grown people actually grow up. Why the hell would you mess with a married man? Are there seriously no single men around worth having? I doubt it.
And why the hell would you be married if you want to mess around? This is the kind of bullshit that devalues marriage.
An abortion….god doesn’t she know about birth control it makes me sick that she did that..she could afford that kid..and she killed it..there is no excuse she’s not just an adulterer….she is a murderer…..it’s sad that ppl like me who want more kids can’t have them due to finances and there she is so selfish so very freaking selfish..what about adoption…grow up and protect yourself…and the next unborn baby..
She’s just trash is all. She grew up trash and now she has money and is still trash.
And while the cheating spouse should get the brunt of the blame in this type of situation, do not think for one second that the other man or woman is absolved of all wrongdoing. They deserve plenty of blame for messing around with a married person.
@Jezi, being married and separated is very different from being married and still together, ethically and legally. This lawsuit will not succeed if the wife cannot PROVE that Fantasia knew they were still in love and actively together. The fact that the husband lied and misled may be enough of a defense to prevent the wife from making any money.
Also, I don’t feel bad at all for the wife “having to hear all this in court and replay it all over.” That is obviously what she wanted. She is the one who named Fantasia in her divorce papers. She wants the money, she knew what the consequences were.
Her abortion actually makes her slightly redeemable in my eyes – that filthy bitch has no business bringing another life into this world after what she did to her 9-year-old child.
Seriously, Fantasia should not have custody over her daughter. That little girl already suffered enough. Let her live with an adult who has her best interest at heart – not a selfish drama queen.
@Kim ITA, there is a reason the courtroom was cleared.
Stay strong Tasia. The last time I checked abortion is legal.For those of you who have a problem with abortion, it shouldn’t matter if she was “several months pregnant” or several weeks pregnant.Either way its murder, right. As for her being a Christian, Christians enage in pre marital sex, adultry,have abortions, support death penality… just like Non Christians.Lastly if she is ghetto than so is Bristol-teen mother, Leanne – breaking up family. BTW IMO Tasia isn’t “ghetto” she is “country”
@happygirl, yes they all are responsible.
It’s not about blaming the other women and not your husband but why should women who mess with married men be less accountable. I think it’s just as despicable. Especially when there are children. They both had a willingness to say no to eachother and they didn’t. A married man/woman will not cheat unless there are people willing to aid in the cheating. Again only MO.
@J true there is a difference but if there is even doubt or an unclear line whether they were separated or not, that is an issue.
@jen
wow talk about pot calling the the kettle black!!
First of all, let me make this clear for you: despite being pro-life, I understand that the choice to abort the fetus (not baby!!!!) belongs to the woman who is carrying it. I also understand the social and economic impact of bringing children into the world who will lack stable families, or whose parents cannot care for them , or for whatever reason it is harmful to the mother to continue this pregnancy, which is why I do not particularly like to go on this complex issue, but you actually compelled me to respond here. Since Fantasia has not yet come out to share the reason for her choices (be it legal, PR, damage to the baby, unstable mental/ emotional health on her part), anyone judging her should just SHUT THE FUCK UP. Even if she just did not feel like going through with it for no reason whatsoever, it is still none of my damn business. And using the words “kill her baby” is beyond gross. I sincerely hope you just expressed yourself badly.
Moderator: i don’t think comments calling abortions baby killing should be allowed on this site, unless i missed the outlawing of abortion, the overturn of Roe. v Wade, or the American Medical Association announcing their coming to a consensus on the issue of when a fetus becomes a person.
@ Lady D – If you think Fantasia is so awful and selfish, then the logical conclusion is that its probably better that she did not bring a child into the world. Selfish parents do not make good parents. Depressed mothers do not make good mothers. It is clear that Fantasia is dealing with really heavy issues in her life right now, and its up to FANTASIA alone to decide if she can/can not handle the added stress of a newborn.
Scientifically: A fetus is just a bunch of cells until it can survive outside of the mother’s body. This does not occur until around the 6 month mark, and an abortion at that point is not legal anywhere in the country.
Honestly who are all these awful creatures coming out of the woodwork to judge? Not one of you has walked in Fantasia’s shoes, not one of you has a right to tell her what to do or to say she was wrong.
@ Jezi
You clearly don’t understand American Government whatsoever. May I recommend a civics class?
The LEGAL reason why “the other woman” should not be responsible is that she owes no legal duty to the wife. The husband LEGALLY owes a duty to his wife, just as a wife LEGALLY owes a duty to her husband.
Laws such as “Alienation of Affection” are either 1) going to set a precedent for a society that dictates everything that is right/wrong behavior, which leads to a bigger government and less civil liberties and freedom, and 2) based on a set of moral standards that come from a specific religious tradition, which have no place in the public sphere (Congress will make no law respecting an establishment of religion…)
Take your hateful ignorance elsewhere, there are plenty of crazy internet forums for it.
At lady d:
its FETUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was unborn, we don’t known how far along she was, if it had a name, if they were even at the point where you cant tell the gender……
WTF?????????????
Why am I the only one offended by this? Would you ever say that to the face of a woman who miscarried (dont even get me started on the statement I’ve read about miscarriage = abortion here)or had an abortion? Would you use the words kill your baby to her face? behind her back? oh, i guess in a gossip site is OK, huh?
And yes, gossip is fun and bitchy, but this is a totally crossing the line, people.
Becky: WORD.
Her life seems pretty messed up right now. Having the abortion was probably the right decision. If God in His infinite wisdom placed a fetus in the womb of a messed-up, suicidal, woman who wants to have an abortion, then this was all part of His plan too.
becky – Thank you, and yes, I agree that this is over the line. The witches are really coming out.
@Lisa Turtle as much as I am pro-life, a baby growing in the body is more than a bunch of cells. By 6 weeks there is a heartbeat, every week after that there is a new development. Whether it be arms, legs, or any other body part. This happens pretty quickly. However, I don’t make comments on anyone’s choices. I’m sure it was a difficult decision for her regardless of anything else. I hope in the future she’s more careful with using birth control.
I maintain that picking on Fantasia isnt exactly a fair fight. This girl truly is not all there. Just saying.
@Lisa Turtle I was commenting before I even read your latest in regards to me. How the heck am I the hateful person? Excuse me if I believe in fidelity and hold people to high moral compasses. Geesh, you’re taking this mighty personally. I have every right to post here, just like you. This is a gossip website, not a class where I need to be lectured on civics. Good lord!!!!
@Jezi You have made a number of comments judging Fantasia as being “the other woman”, own it. Hold yourself to your own moral code, everyone else in America will be held to the American legal code.
Without the mother’s body a 6 week old fetus will not survive for more than a minute. I was being generous when I said 6 months, if a baby is born at 6 months its dependent on science and doctors to keep it alive.
I think it’s morally reprehensible that people are more concerned with a cluster of cells than a living, breathing, 9-year-old girl.
Fantasia’s daughter is going to be scarred for life because of her mother’s selfness. I think it’s despicable that so few people are concerned for this child’s welfare. I was 9 at the time of my mother’s first attempt – and I was very aware of the severity of the situation.
@ Jezi:
“It’s not about blaming the other women and not your husband but why should women who mess with married men be less accountable”
They should be less accountable because:
1) they did not enter a contract binding them legally to another person,
2) they did not vow to care and love someone and be with them until death
3)they’re not deceiving anyone much less their partners
4)they are not cheating on their spouse or loved ones
That is why. Women hating on other women instead of the cheater is truly beyond my understanding. And this is not a gender thing. If a man is faithful and woman cheats, she is to blame, since she is the one in the commitment. Not her lover.
Ah, the idiotic argument that says “if I don’t want it, it’s a fetus, but if I do want it, it’s a baby.”
Reality is that there are soooo many options available for birth control now that they are not out of the reach of anyone. If you can’t afford them, planned parenthood and other organization will give them out for free. There is NO EXCUSE for getting pregnant and then having an abortion, except in the cases of rape, incest and health issues.
Oh, and Becky, I find it interesting that you are so offended by people disagreeing with you that you actually want the moderator to not post opinions that you don’t like. My opinion is every bit as valid as yours, and my opinion is that abortion is an act of murder and it horrifies me that any woman could murder their own baby.
@Lisa well she was the other woman. She wasn’t his wife, she was the woman cheating with him. So that’s exactly my point. I agree, a baby doesn’t live outside the body at that point. I was just making a statement saying that it was more than a cluster of cells. But I meant I was pro-choice, not pro-life, I do think every woman has a right to make their own decisions when it comes to abortion.
@becky you are correct on that but I still hold to the fact that there should be consequences to anyone knowingly taking part in having an affair. Imagine your husband was having an affair and the other woman knew all about you and your child, would you just say “ok, no biggie” and think that she wasn’t part of the problem?
So sick of her and her problems. She brought everything on herself. End of story. No sympathy here.
@Kim, I couldn’t agree more – court proceedings like these should be sealed. I hope some lunatics don’t harass her with hate mail. FTR I would NOT abort, but I still think people have the right to keep such things private.
miscarriage = abortion??? BS Courtney
@ Jezi (agree with you…)-1) maybe everyone else has to live by the American legal code, as @Lisa Turtle says, but I think that’s half the problem. If we all lived by more of a moral code, the world would be a lot better off.
2) Fantasia IS the other woman. LOL. No really denying that. And it takes 2 to tango, so THEY ARE BOTH responsible.
3)and as @Becky says – they aren’t deceiving anyone..of course they are…at least until the wife finds out. (and/or husband…whichever way it falls)
Just MO….not trying to keep this uproar going, so if everyone’s going to bash my opinion, too, have at it…
@happygirl thank you 🙂
Samihami:
R u stupid? Read my posts. My position in abortion is the same as yours. But that is not relevant here. Abortion is legal; it does happen; and it still is the abortion of a fetus. Do not act like this is a simple issue. Some people believe life starts at conception, some believe other things. The reasons for my beliefs are not religious, they are are the ones that you stated. There is birth control, adoption, etc… yet people still get pregnant and have abortions, and as long as they have the right to do so, I will not spew ignorant hate and disrespect someone in what I imagine must be a very painful moment by referring to the unborn child as baby after it has been aborted!
Samihami:
“you are so offended by people disagreeing with you that you actually want the moderator to not post opinions that you don’t like”
what opinion? that an unborn child is called a fetus? do you own a dictionary? Look up the words fetus and opinion.
@ happy girl and Jezi:
it takes to to tango and one to say no. the one who should say no is the one with the spouse waiting at home.
@becky yes you’re correct but does that still make it right?
ALSO wtf is up with the title of this post?
She aborted HER FETUS. It wasn’t a baby nor was it inside or otherwise property of her “married lover”.
So she aborted her fetus? Who’s business is it but hers? Oh right. No ones.
I would like to know that my man is not cheating because he wouldn’t want to do that to me, and not because other women were saying no.
imagine if all women said no (assuming they even know the man is married): then the only reason your man isn’t cheating is because there are no willing partners. Thanks, but I’d rather know he does not cheat because HE won’t cheat, and not because he cannot. Women who worry about other women saying yes to their men either aren’t secure enough about themselves, their relationship, or their man. If your married to someone, you should trust that they wouldn’t cheat! If you don’t, that’s a problem, at least for me.
@samihami – “There is NO EXCUSE for getting pregnant and then having an abortion”
First of all, there are cases where birth control does not work. It’s not 100% effective, everytime. For example, many women do not know that if you are on the pill and then take anti-biotics, the anti-biotics will counteract and cause the pill not to work and you could get pregnant.
Second of all, since when do people need to excuse themselves for exercising their legal rights? If you don’t like abortions don’t get one, but don’t try to force your worldview onto other women. This is America, as I keep saying, and we are all free to make our own choices, so long as they are legal. Abortion is a legal choice.
@ happy girl.
You want everyone in the world to live off a moral code? How would we chose which moral code? I guess it would be the democratic way… by majority? Well Islam is the most practiced religion in the world, so…
See my point?
We can not all agree on morality. I happen to have very strong morals, but I can tell mine are very very very different from yours.
@becky well we should all hope that is the case becky but not all the time. If it were so, then we wouldn’t have timeless and countless cheating scandals.
If those men hadn’t tried or had said no, there would not have been so many scandals, no.
So Jezi, you don’t think there are men out there who don’t cheat? do u think they would all cheat if given the chance? i really believe there are men who won’t though…
but it makes me mad that the other women get so much more hate than the cheating husband, i think women should know better by now…
and u know what? i would never get involved with a married person because it speaks volumes to their character that they would be willing to do that to their family. Who’d wanna be with a guy who does that?
I feel sorry for Fantasia’s daughter. One can only imagine what the it must be like having to deal with the whole world knowing about her mother’s suicide attempt, affair with a married man and now the news Fantasia had a abortion.
She aborted her baby. Call it a fetus if it makes you feel better. And no, I don’t need a dictionary. I know what a baby is.
Cheating is already frowned upon, making it illegal would not stop people from cheating. Prohibition did not stop people from drinking. Draconian laws don’t make people better people, there will still be cheaters. Our jails will just get more crowded if we start locking up people because they had an affair! Please, as if the jails aren’t already overflowing, as if the budgets of any state can afford to lock people up for this crap. Nobody wants to be cheated on, nobody is defending cheaters, but its just insane to try and outlaw it.
Fantasia actions is just bad behavior. Seperated is not divorced, I don’t care how you try to slice it. She knew he was married and he knew he was married and they just didn’t care. Having an abortion was just plain wrong, but it was the easiest way to get out the situation. Religion had nothing to do with this hot mess. Lust, Sex and Selfishness. That’s what this whole mess is about.
@jezi….you are the best. I keep saying that the other woman is just as bad as the cheating man, even though she owes the wife nothing. If the single whores will keep their legs closed to married men, then those idiots will have no one to cheat with, and please she has a right to abort the cells if she dont want it….her cells, her womb, her pain. Get over it. Its not a baby……….i dont want it, i decide what to do with it.
Why wasn’t Britney raked over the coals like this? Fantasia’s privacy has been invaded, it’s no one’s business that she had an abortion and should NEVER have been revealed! Now she has to worry about pro-lifers getting into her business! This is just getting out of control.
@lady D
BABY: An infant or baby is the very young offspring of humans
FETUS: The unborn offspring from the end of the 8th week after conception (when the major structures have formed) until birth. Up until the eighth week, the developing offspring is called an embryo.
GET IT?
@becky *sigh* I don’t know if men can be faithful. I would love to think there are a few who wouldn’t cheat but I’m always disappointed to see how many do. I don’t think hate should be spewed on to the other woman and not the husband. He’s definitely more at fault, however, I do think it’s unfair that the other women do it and aren’t held responsible for their actions just the same. But I TOTALLY agree with you, you know if they cheat with you they are going to do it back to you at some point.
@ Lisa – I see what you’re saying. And I don’t know the answer to the question of which moral code we should follow…maybe one that will allow us to not make decisions that will NOT hurt others (cheating…whether we are the spouse or the “other” person)…one that says it’s NOT ok to choose selfishness over someone else’s happiness…one that we hold ourselves accountable for rather than checking the legallity of something before we do it…everyone has different morals, but I think you and I agree on some things. (So maybe our morals aren’t SOOOO different). I agree 100% with your comment about wanting to know your man won’t cheat because he wouldn’t want to. That’s what I want, too, and I’d like to know that when I find someone, I will trust them, and they will not cheat, not because they can’t, but because they choose not to do that to me. I think @Jezi and I are just saying she is just as responsible as he is. I would like to think that HE would be the one to say no…but, like @Jezi said, if that was the case, the cheating and infidelity issues would not be as rampant as they are. Which, to me, is just ridiculous, because here’s the bottom line..if you want to cheat…GET OUT OF YOUR MARRIAGE…it’s really that simple. IMO…
@Becky – I do believe there are men who won’t cheat also…I HAVE TO…LOL…and I agree with your last post, too
@Lisa – sorry, I think the comment about not wanting your man to cheat was by @becky…so, @becky…we agree on this as well…
btw, using the word fetus instead of baby does not make any argument against its abortion weaker, if only correct and accurate. if we are getting into a serious discussion, let’s use the right terms. and yes, the title of this post is appalling, I hadn’t even noticed that it reads HER man’s baby. Come on!
mslewis: “If Fantasia was “several months pregnant” then having an abortion was wrong. But she is ignorant enough to do something like that. The woman has zero education and cannot even read. She is also a total ghetto bunny. I am so happy Jennifer Hudson turned out to be the star and this ghetto ‘ho is just another struggling singer.”
Wow, thanks for confirming what I’ve always suspected. You are a bigoted asshole.
“BABY: An infant or baby is the very young offspring of humans
FETUS: The unborn offspring from the end of the 8th week after conception (when the major structures have formed) until birth. Up until the eighth week, the developing offspring is called an embryo.
GET IT?”
Semantics.
@ Courtney
I’m pro-choice but I would never equate an abortion to a miscarriage. Two diff things. One is a choice and the other isn’t.
Every woman should have the right to choose, in my opinion. Do people want to return to the days of women sticking coat hangers inside themselves? Fantasia had a choice and she made it. It is her body, and therefore HER decision. And religious people have abortions all the time. Believing in god, and believing in a woman’s right to choose are not mutually exclusive.
In Iran, they stone women who are accused of adultery.
In America, lady D, and happygirl verbally stone women who are accused of having abortions.
Disparate, but equally heinous, moral codes at work.
@Lisa….WTF?? I NEVER…ever…ever…said ANYTHING about the abortion…I’m talking about CHEATING…I wouldn’t touch the abortion part with a ten foot pole here. And YES I think having a high moral code would consist of NOT HURTING people….INCLUDING cheating. Read my comments, or put the crack pipe down. Don’t put words in my mouth and don’t accuse me of saying something I haven’t.
Lisa, I took your advice and looked up fetus. Just for you..
In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception
AN UNBORN YOUNG!! call it fetus all you want to make yourself feel better, but left un-aborted that FETUS will be a BABY. That “group of cells” will still be a baby. When a woman aborts that “group of cells” or a fetus, it is a baby. The two words are interchangeable. The fact that you are so upset over people calling a fetus a baby speaks volumes.
aker, do you read? Are you illiterate in addition to being ignorant? I didn’t tell anyone to look up baby or fetus.
Besides the point was already made by Crash2, that argument is simply semantics.
I don’t care if you call it a “baby” or not, its a bunch of cells! We are all just bunches of cells. This is science.
Calling a fetus/baby/bunch of cells a “living person” is the problem. All I said is a fetus can not survive outside of its mother until around 6 months. I maintain the difference is whether or not you are an autonomous being, independent of your mother’s womb.
Lisa, what you are saying is ignorant. How many woman when pregnant call it a fetus? I dont care if you have an abortion or not. It is not my issue, but lying to people and saying it is just a fetus or a bunch of cells is the problem with abortion. Every body knows it is murdering a human, but if we use special little code words like fetuses it wont sound so bad.
You are right you didnt tell people to look up fetus that was Becky. My mix up .
aker: “Every body knows”
Okay. You, in your infinite wisdom, know what every body knows?!
Whatever.
There is no FACTUAL LIE in saying that a fetus is just a bunch of cells.
I’m done though. You really are too stupid for my words, and there is no point in having an intelligent disagreement with a complete moron.
“Second of all, since when do people need to excuse themselves for exercising their legal rights? If you don’t like abortions don’t get one, but don’t try to force your worldview onto other women.”
Why not? The pro abortion faction forces their worldview on us. I have a right to say what I believe just as much as you do. As for abortion being legal, I strongly hope that we can overturn that travesty and make it illegal once again.
See, the fact that we have rights in America means that I can express MY viewpoint, too. You don’t have to agree. But that doesn’t make me wrong, either. It’s a complicated issue and not one that will get resolved on a chat board.
Lisa, you are a joy. I am happy that you are okay killing just a “bunch of cells”. Even though those “bunch of cells” has 46 chromosomes that will turn that “bunch of cells” into a human. Its not like that “bunch of cells” will become a frog, or a fly or a dog. IT WILL BECOME A HUMAN, if left alone to complete gestation.
It isnt a lie to say that baby is a bunch of cells, the lie is telling woman who are getting an abortion that that is all it is, no worries, who cares, just cells. telling them that it is just “bunch of cells” (which is really all the fetus/baby is for the first 8 weeks of gestation, then it pretty much looks like a human) is the lie. It is a lot more than just a “bunch of cells”.
Saying that does not make me stupid. It makes it scientifically, my belief. I am sorry for you that you have an issue with SOME people believing that abortion is ipso facto the murder of a human being.
I’m pretty sure Mr. Belding is calling someone to the principal’s office right about now…
@Lisa it seems you attack anyone who doesn’t agree with you. Everyone here has a right to their own opinion about everything. You feel a certain way and others feel a certain way. Doesn’t make it right or wrong.
And before I get attacked by you for thinking that I am against abortion, well that’s untrue. As I said before I’m pro-choice. However, I do not wish to debate the abortion topic. It gets too heated. Myself and @happygirl were only commenting on the cheating part. You get so upset when someone picks a point that you did not say but yet you did it to someone else.
ok aker
so how does it speak volumes?
what does it say to you?
because from your tone it doesn’t seem like you understand my position at all. I just don’t think that it’s cool to post comments about her killing her baby, because as long as abortion is legal, it is disrespectful for people like me, who do not agree with the morals of abortion, to impose them on others who have a legal right to terminate their pregnancies. I would never make someone feel worst about going through something like this – which I cannot even imagine it must be. If you wanna psychoanalyze me through my celebitchy posts because I find this offensive, bring it on.
@aker
u might wanna look up the word murder as well. Because independent of anyone’s beliefs, as long as it legal, by definition it is not murder.
“It makes it scientifically, my belief.”
too easy…
Wowzers, this thread has gotten ugly. I guess it’s fitting though; it’s an ugly story with some ugly facts including some equally ugly people.
Off to check out Clive now…
^^also agree w/Kim
Becky, i never commented to you on your positoin. I am not totally against abortions. I think it needs to be a lot more regulated than it is, which is beside the point. I was must noting that saying it is a fetus does not change the fact that you are killing a baby. Legal or not, killing someone is murder. That is my opinion.
IMO Fantasia’s got a lot of issues, which she may or may not be dealing with. She doesn’t seem capable of handling another child in her life. She may have damaged the fetus with the aspirin. She doesn’t seem capable of handling a damaged child…but you never know. It could have forced her to reassess her priorities. I feel sad for her that her life choices, upbringing, and circumstances seem to overwhelm her talent and potential to overcome alot of the crap in her life.
the abortion thing: Fantasia may well have not been in her right mind when she had the abortion done. She may not be surrounded by good people. She was despairing enough to try suicide – didn’t finish the job tells me that she knew somehow she needed help at least…
That’s all my input on the abortion thing … I have mixed feelings…I feel like saying I’ll defend a women’s right to have it, but.
“First of all, there are cases where birth control does not work. It’s not 100% effective, everytime. For example, many women do not know that if you are on the pill and then take anti-biotics, the anti-biotics will counteract and cause the pill not to work and you could get pregnant.”
I think the majority of people know that when a man & woman have sex…the possibility of offspring is pretty much inevitable. Every time I’ve gone to the doctor they ask me if I’m pregnant or could become pregnant, and they always inform me of the risks of taking antibiotics & b.c. pills, so I hardly think that is justifiable explanation for unplanned pregnancy. In this day and age, it’s hard to believe that there are people out there who don’t use condoms, birth control, etc and expect that they won’t become pregnant. We all know the birds & the bee’s story here…come on, let’s give people a little more credit than that! I don’t believe in such a thing as “accidental pregnancy”
you are all just ranting…, and fighting over nothing. Good for all ye pro life peeps, ..whatever……..fetus, cells, chromozones, embryos, baby….whatever you call it, fantasia has decided she didnt want it, and i am glad she had the right to suck up the pain and do with her uterus whatever she felt like…….murder my ass……. She murdered no one.
okay. sorry to be shallow, but that’s pretty much the most disgusting bowl-cut i’ve ever seen. it makes her head look bloated. and girlfriend needs to go in a new direction with clothing choices.
samihami. Your illogical argument demonstrates only the fact that you are a tragically unsophisticated and uneducated human. Nobody is forcing you to do anything! You have the right to THINK whatever you want to THINK about it… But you have no right to tell me, or any other woman what to DO. See? Thought and Action are not the same thing. You are clearly not a doctor and nobody is making you give abortions, so nobody is forcing you to do anything.
The entire point of “choice” is that you can chose to have an abortion, or not to – based on your own life, experiences, worldview, or moral code. My point remains that any woman should have a right to decide what is right for herself, her body and her life.
P.S. Making abortion illegal doesn’t stop abortions from happening, it just makes them unsafe. Sh*t happens. People have unprotected sex. Maybe they are drunk. Maybe they are drug addicts. People get pregnant by accident all the time. Adoption isn’t for everyone, abortion isn’t for everyone. People have the right to make these choices for themselves, not to have nutbags like you tell them what is right/wrong or moral/immoral.
@ d – My Women’s Studies prof used to say she was “pro-life; pro-choice; pro-woman.”
I, personally, would probably not choose abortion; however, I would not tell another woman she couldn’t have the choice.
@ LISA: People have unprotected sex. Maybe they are drunk. Maybe they are drug addicts. People get pregnant by accident all the time.
Aside from drug addicts and drunks…Exactly how does one accidentally get pregnant? They weren’t looking where they were going and they slipped and fell? Seriously?!?! There is no such thing. Everyone knows what they are doing when they have sex, and everyone knows the risks involved so I don’t see how it is an accident. Seems more like people have sex, because they knowingly WANTED to, they get knocked up and they go to the doctor to have it removed like a mole or tumor instead of a treating it like a living being, which it is…Regardless if you agree with abortion or don’t, there are no accidents.
In Iran, they stone women who are accused of adultery.
In America, lady D, and happygirl verbally stone women who are accused of having abortions.
Disparate, but equally heinous, moral codes at work.
Really Lisa, so people who have a disagreement with you on some internet blog is along the same lines as women who are stoned, abused, beaten to death!!!…OKAY! You have completely lost me. WOW, I can’t even fathom your idiotic, brainless and horribly insensitive comments. You sure are one CLASS-ACT! Enough said.
@aker: “I am not totally against abortions. I think it needs to be a lot more regulated than it is, which is beside the point.”
Regulation is a slippery slope my friend. Where does it end?
Personally I believe that abortion is very VERY wrong. But it is a mistake that every woman should have the right to make.
@ Crash2 – Well said. I absolutely agree with your last comment, which is what I was trying to convey in my last comment. I also meant to say I would not choose to have an abortion. Alas, the force of the nyquil is strong, and I’m having a wee bit of trouble converting thoughts from brain to keyboard.
Okay Squirtle, you got my attention. I see you were desperately craving it… Here we go.
1) Accidents Happen. To quote you they “weren’t looking where they were going and they slipped and fell?” What is funny about this, is that condoms can slip off, and do slip off! This actually happens all the time. Especially if you have sex in a position other than missionary. It’s happened to almost every sexually active woman I know. There are accidents. (Such an obvious statement – There ARE accidents)
2) “Everyone knows the risks involved” – INACCURATE. There are many young people who do not know about safe sex, they think “abstinence only” because this is what they are taught. There are plenty of parents who never have a sex talk with their children. Of those children, there are many that never get properly educated on sexuality, safe sex, and don’t have access to protective methods.
3) You are implying that people “get knocked up” because they want to get abortions? This is so sick, twisted and disturbing that I don’t even believe this point deserves a response.
4) I compared the stoning of women who commit adultery in Iran, to the public shaming/verbal stoning of Fantasia that is going on. It’s called an analogy. For proof, look at the comments above. Half of them are criticizing her, calling her terrible things, and judging her life choices.
5) Nothing you said was particularly intelligent, sensitive, or convinced me that you have a brain with a higher IQ than your shoe size.
I think we’re done here.
I feel for Fantasia as well. Anyone who has considered suicide or understands it ought to feel some empathy for her.
Compassion.
Why are people still arguing about abortion though? Reproductive rights have been legal for a long time.
LOL@The two best comments of this thread- Happygirl and the “Mr.Belding’s office” comment and Bellaluna’s comment,”Wowzers, this thread has gotten ugly. I guess it’s fitting though; it’s an ugly story with some ugly facts including some equally ugly people.”
@ bellaluna: yup, that sounds where I’m at. I took the morning after pill myself after a condom broke because the LAST thing I needed at the time was to get pregnant – I thought – so I can’t judge. I do still think about that though, somewhat regretfully. I mean, it was the day after, i didn’t kill anything afaik, but still. It freaked me out enought just get on the damn pill. I was in my early 20s, just starting out career-wise, with a guy I adored, just ADORED, but marriage, kids? It wasn’t strong enough, to my everlasting regret. And I helped a friend get an abortion, b/c she was living in sheer terror of her parents finding out (also in her 20s but…long story)…but I’ve always wondered too if she regretted it anyway. It’s such a hard decision, it’s easy to come to the conclusion, so just don’t do it, it’s wrong, don’t do it, that makes it simple. Certainly, it’s made me advocate very strongly for sexual awareness among girls, understanding dating behaviours, how important it is t be assertive, etc. I think once you’ve got that down, it may be a little easier for girls/women to make decisions to lead to avoiding getting pregnant in the first place. And by advocating, I don’t mean taking away people’s right to make their own decisions or telling people outright what they’re doing is wrong or whatever, I mean saying here are the mistakes I think I made and why I think they’re mistakes and why you might not want to make those same mistakes.
God, I need a drink now…
Suicide, adultery and abortion? That’s three commandments right there broken. Those without sin should cast the first stone, so I don’t want to judge, but she needs some guidance…mentally and also spiritually. I pray she gets it.
Also the abortion issue…when women say It’s my body. That’s true, But isn’t it ANOTHER body you are getting rid of?
@Jezi – Exactly 🙂
@Squirtle – THANK YOU.
@Devilgirl – Thank YOU! I enjoy reading your posts, so I’m taking that as a compliment 😉
Yeah in abortion everyone has a right except the baby.
Fanny you are a Mess. It seems as if the male is the winner in this situation. Clearly you are dyckmatized. After only 3 days you sleep with him raw and get his name tattooed on your shoulder. Then attempted to take your life. Also you forget that you have a 9 year old. Clearly you need help!
I am ashamed to say that she and I come from the same state. She gives North Carolina a bad name.
I love celeb news and all, but this is too sad . . .
lol!!! Lol! The comments are getting really ugly. Very personal i see….i say stop. There is nothing anyone will say here, that will change the opinion of most of us on the abortion topic…so just stop.
This puts her “suicide attempt” into perspective, however, I’m still calling shenanigans on it.
Her and her pr team should be ashamed. Her “attempt” was the equivalent of a scorned teenager taking a bottle of pills just to get revenge on an ex.
The way she went on interviews RIGHT AFTER the supposed attempt was ridiculous. She was so blase about it and treated it like she got a paper cut or something. Was it a coincidence that this happened when she had an album and a tv show to promote?
Lord knows I have patients who have seriously attempted suicide and the last thing they want to talk about in our sessions is the attempt because they are ashamed of the fact they tried or that they tried and failed… Real suicide attempters don’t want to talk about it, much less on national tv!
In the interviews, she could have used it as an opportunity to educate and inform people about the seriousness of suicide, but instead, was focused on herself… as always.
I don’t watch her show, but I am curious as to how they will handle it… I’m sure it will be part of the show, which further proves my point that it was a publicity stunt… how cheap.
I hope she stays in obscurity, I won’t be supporting her. She and her pr team should be blacklisted for pulling such an amazingly scummy stunt like this.
@d:
Thank you for the honest, brave, and well-stated comment. Yours is the most sensible comment on this entire topic.
Some of you, on both sides of the issues, are very disrepectful of your fellow women. Whatever your position, you should be able to have a discussion without resorting to personal attacks and trying to quiet opinions which differ from yours. This obviously is not the place for this type of discourse, but if we are going to engage each other, we should strive to do so with respect and empathy.
@ d –
Thank you for your honesty. You get no judgement from me, honey. Respect to you, for relating your experience to other girls/women with clarity and without judgement.
For all the commentators saying ‘what a murder, she could’ve afforded it, she shouldn’t have aborted, wasn’t she christian?’
Please STFU, it’s HER BODY, HER CHOICE.
@Crash2GO2: Regulation is a slippery slope my friend. Where does it end?
“Personally I believe that abortion is very VERY wrong. But it is a mistake that every woman should have the right to make. ” Well said
@d: “Certainly, it’s made me advocate very strongly for sexual awareness among girls, understanding dating behaviours, how important it is t be assertive, etc. I think once you’ve got that down, it may be a little easier for girls/women to make decisions to lead to avoiding getting pregnant in the first place. And by advocating, I don’t mean taking away people’s right to make their own decisions or telling people outright what they’re doing is wrong or whatever, I mean saying here are the mistakes I think I made and why I think they’re mistakes and why you might not want to make those same mistakes”: good for you, that’s all we can do is try to help others learn (a bit) from our ‘mistakes'” I agree with your entire post, especially “I can’t judge”
none of us can.
@decemberist15 I have to agree with you and didn’t want to say it myself for fear of being lashed out at. But you are correct. I am not foreign to psychology and know that most people who attempt suicide don’t want the world knowing about it. It’s a very private thing and that’s what makes people so shocked when someone actually does do it. They all say, “well we knew they were depressed but never thought they would do this.” So I would also say it’s a PR stunt to promote her show.
Lisa, you said: “Your illogical argument demonstrates only the fact that you are a tragically unsophisticated and uneducated human.”
Interesting that you have decided that someone who disagrees with you must be unsophisticated and uneducated. Well, first of all being “sophisticated” is not synonymous with being pro-abortion. And considering that I graduated Summa Cum Laude and have work in the field of medical education at a teaching hospital for 14 years, I don’t think that it’s quite fair to call me “uneducated.”
Get over yourself. We ALL have a right to our opinions and beliefs. Just because I disagree with yours doesn’t make me wrong and it doesn’t make stupid, either.
You also said “The entire point of “choice” is that you can chose to have an abortion”
Personally, I think the choice should be to get pregnant or not get pregnant. It’s incredibly easy to avoid an unwanted pregnancy-from (horrors!) abstinence, to any of dozens of forms of birth control pills, right up to the morning after pill. Other choices can be to keep the child and raise it or to put it up for adoption. I don’t think killing a baby should be a “choice.” The whole “her body, her choice” argument is invalid when it affects another life.
Again, that is my opinion, and I am neither stupid nor uneducated for having that opinion. I understand that other people hold different viewpoints, and that is fine. That’s their right. But although I think they are wrong on this issue, I generally don’t go around assuming that they are “unsophisticated” and “uneducated” simply for not agreeing with me.
Like I said, get over yourself-you are not the final arbiter of right and wrong on this issue (or any other).
AMEN Samihami!!!
Guaranteed this sad girl ‘attempted suicide’ just for the publicity, too. Pathetic.
Just amused that someone who claims to be in the medical field refers to abortion as “killing a baby” – nobody in the profession refers to abortion in such a way because its so partisan, and as a whole doctors are taught to think rationally, and remove prejudices that would prevent them from providing sub-par medical care to their patients.
Sorry, but I really can’t stand when people misrepresent themselves as medical experts on the internet. Its dangerous and highly unethical. This post caught my eye because of the contentious topic, and I just wanted to see what people were saying.
I just want to add, that all this is spoken from the daughter of an obstetrician, who is currently a first year resident in obstetrics. I understand you all have no reason to believe me, but please believe that a responsible and ethical doctor would never judge your choice or make you feel worse in an already hard situation. We’re here to help, not judge!
The idea that religious people get fewer abortions is a myth. Please remember that these are also the people who are super judgmental of premarital sex at all, so having an embarrassment in the family is too horrifying to contemplate. I know a ton of Catholic school girls who got abortions in high school. In fact, they seemed more frequent than in secular schools.
Of course these people are also publicly pro-life. Hypocrites, go figure.
@samihami: ‘The whole “her body, her choice” argument is invalid when it affects another life’
No, it is not invalid. Still her decision, not the state’s or yours whatever your opinion is.
Also, I am assuming you are a man. You will NEVER get pregnant or EVER worry about missing a period in your life. Yet another reason: her body, her choice.
get over it………take this abortion, she killed her baby talk to some ethical board…..just stop with the argument. No one here is going to change their opinion on abortion, wether they are pro-life or pro-choice. I am pro-choice, and believe me, nothing a pro-life says to me on the topic makes sense, but to each his own hey.
To Squirtle, and EVERYONE else claiming there is no excuse for accidental pregnancy/abortion, or even that there is no such thing as an unplanned pregnancy:
Are you all blindingly stupid? Pushing aside all of your pathetic arguments about how people should be so enlightened that pregnancy cannot/should not happen by accident – Have you ever heard of a thing called “rape”? Are you suggesting women who become pregnant as a result of a rape attack, even by their own family member, should not be allowed to abort her baby? Why hasn’t this reality entered anyone’s train of thought on this thread? Your contempt for human emotion frightens me.
ITA with slymm, bellaluna and d. To the arguers –Ya’ll are just spinning your wheels with this topic. Don’t you know that you cannot change people’s minds on religion, politics or abortion??
Whatever you think, it’s STILL a PERSONAL DECISION, and nobody else’s business. DO NOT JUDGE. You never know when you might be called upon to make a life-changing decision and do the best you can, and not have everybody and their duck judging you about it.
The above round and round bs calling each other ignorant is stupid.
Anyway, I for one am glad she did not keep a baby from this cluster4ck of a relationship. She needs to focus on what she has now and stop making babies.
I hate to admit this but I think this forum is missing some personal experience. I had an affair with a married man and got pregnant. Now this was a man who had been in my life for ten years before we got together again after he got married. I had true feelings for him and somehow one time we got ahead of ourselves and had sex. That sex turned into a baby or a fetus or whatever. Before I had the opportunity to decide how I was going to deal with the situation I had a miscarriage. I believe that that was how GOD wanted it to be. God is all knowing and infinite do you think he doesn’t know that some of the pregnancies he starts are gonna be ended prematurely by a scared woman/girl who for whatever reason can’t handle a baby? God doesn’t make any mistakes so a woman’s right to choose is in place because it should be and some self righteous holy rolling person who feels that right should be taken away should hold their tongue until they are in that position
if for some reason they never have to deal with that question about that pregancy they don’t want as a result of sex they maybe shouldn’t have had then they have no right to judge or force their discriminitory views on others.
I just keep thinking how I would feel if I knew Fantasia and read what some of these strangers are saying and the heartlessness of some of these comments scare me that way not cause some people are pro choice or pro life.
come on people stop hating and gossiping about someone because u dont like them. when u hate on someone is because that person is in a better position than you,Fantasia dont have a sister so we know that story is false and we cant believed what we hear we have to havr proved and we dont. Fantasia live her life open so dont u think she would have mention something about her being pregnant and what if she was pregnant and have an abortion? its her choice and nobody elses. people will say anything for money. I am a man and we guys will say anything just to get what we want and if a man is married and say he is saperated from his wife i dont see any reason for him not to go get some else where. with that sad i think the wife if doing this to hurt Fantasia career and she didnt it only became stronger…
God blessed you people and remember dont hate.
What I find unfortunate is that many women who have had abortions have been sorry afterwards, changed their stance about it, yet still have it in their pasts. So do these “reformed” women have to be chastised for something they did long ago, over and over, to the point where they feel suicidal? No. Which is why I despise those “murder” bumperstickers. People don’t realize the harm they are doing to others by these declarations on a bumper sticker. Start a blog or yell it in church if you have to vent, but have a little sensitivity in public, as you never know how damaging certain topics are to some people.
And no, I don’t really believe Fantasia tried to kill herself, but there are many who have.
@ d & gg – ITA – It is an absolutely heart-breaking decision that, until you are in that position, you do not have to make. It’s very easy to say “I’d never have an abortion because…(insert reason here)” but until you’re in that position, you never know. My first son was the result of a “birth control failure” but I chose to keep him, and I love him to death, can’t imagine my life without him. My last (4th) baby is also the result of “birth control failure” and we seriously considered not going through with the pregnancy (our older children were 18, 16, & 13 at the time). But I just couldn’t have an abortion. I actually had more than one appointment; I didn’t go. I COULDN’T. I don’t know how to explain it. There just aren’t words. I suspect it’s the same for women who have had abortions, as well. Our little one is wonderful, and we’re very, very happy we didn’t end my pregnancy. I can’t imagine life without any of my children, as much of a struggle as it’s been. I wouldn’t change my life for anything.
“nobody in the profession refers to abortion in such a way because its so partisan”
Obviously as a “future doctor” you still have a long way to go before you actually BECOME a doctor. If you actually are a resident, which I rather doubt, you would know that just like in any other profession, there are people on both sides of the abortion fence. Your sweeping “nobody in the profession…” statement makes it clear to me that you don’t know WHAT you are talking about. You don’t know everyone in the profession; you only know your classmates and the specific physicians that you are being trained by, and I guarantee that you haven’t had discussions on the issue with each of them. So, you are assuming to know the minds of an entire profession that is as diverse as any other.
Interns are so smug. Just wait until your 3rd year; you’ll be humbled by then (if you actually are one), and hopefully will realize that YOUR opinion isn’t the only valid opinion.
“Also, I am assuming you are a man. You will NEVER get pregnant or EVER worry about missing a period in your life. Yet another reason: her body, her choice.”
Wrong again, kiddo. I am all woman. Just ask my husband of 21 years. Just like your argument re: abortion, you seem to assume a lot when you really don’t seem to know all that much at all.