These are photos of Brooke Mueller picking up her twins, Max and Bob, at school on Friday. The same photo agency, Fame, has photos of her attending an AA meeting earlier that day. (I didn’t include those photos because they’re far away and she’s wearing sunglasses anyway.) I know those meetings are supposed to be anonymous, but I get the feeling that Brooke wanted it to be known that she was there. Look at her sleepy eyes and slack facial expression in these photos. Does this woman look sober to you? Is her face just permanently stuck like that after years of drug abuse? We’ve heard that she has been submitting to drug tests, but are they testing for pharmaceuticals? She still looks like she’s on something to me, this is not reassuring.
Brooke has been fighting for full custody of her four year-old twins with Charlie Sheen. This process has been made easier for her by The Department of Child and Family Services, which seems to favor reuniting the boys with their mother over what’s in their best interest. Brooke’s quest to get her boys back, and the fat $55,000 a month check that goes along with that, has also been furthered by the fact that Denise Richards can no longer care for them. Richards says that the boys have become randomly violent against her daughters and dogs and that she’s worried for her family’s safety.
As the boys are transitioned to going back to their mother full time, they’ve received an advocate in the form of their uncle, Brooke’s brother. Their uncle was granted temporary guardianship on Friday and will live with Brooke before she earns custody. Max and Bob will still return to Denise Richards’ house in the same gated community as their mother and whack-a-doo father, but its planned for them to stay full time at their mom’s house, under their uncle’s supervision, within a week. Of course the uncle has also petitioned the court for the $55,000 a month in child support that Charlie Sheen was previously paying Brooke.
Charlie Sheen is throwing a sh*t fit on Twitter over this and insulting the judge. This is in direct violation of the gag order by that same judge that was imposed on him last week. I’m going to quote E! here as they do a good job of summing it up.
The feud between the actor and Brooke Mueller, the mother of his 4-year-old twin boys, Bob and Max, has been increasingly heating up— Sheen recently threw shade at his ex on Twitter and questioned whether she’s fit to be a mom—however, a judge reportedly granted temporary guardianship to her brother, Scott Mueller, and ruled that the children will live in their mother’s house.
The shift in guardianship comes after their former caretaker, Sheen’s ex Denise Richards, informed the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services that the boys are misbehaving in ways that she blames Mueller for and that she no longer wants them to stay with her.
Scott Mueller, along with reps for Brooke and Charlie, refused to comment on the matter, however Sheen expressed his feelings on Twitter: “so lemme see if I got this straight. my twin boys are now in harms way and in grave danger. being ‘raised’ by a gaggle of incompetent and lascivious marionettes all ruled and fooled by an adderol snorting husk called Brooke.
“and guess what CPS and ‘I’m Italian’ judge anus-brain, you may have gagged me temporarily, but mark my unspoken words, anything happens to my boys, and you will know get to know me, know who I truly am, a loving father. tag – I’m it.”
As for the living situation, the judge reportedly felt it was important for the kids to stay in the same school, and since their uncle lives in a beachside community far away, the court felt the next best thing would be for Scott to move into Mueller’s home, according to TMZ (who first broke the story).
The move is said to happen by the end of day today [Friday], with Scott agreeing to move into his sister’s home. It’s unclear whether Brooke will permanently reside under the same roof as her sons, since DCFS has not given her full custody rights, however they also felt it was important to gradually reintroduce the kids to Brooke, who has been in and out of rehab.
What a mess this is. Radar reported that the boys stayed with Denise on Saturday so that they could be gradually introduced back to their mom. They also add the detail that “Scott Mueller has already petitioned the court to have Sheen pay him $55,000 a month in child support.” This begs the question: would Brooke or her brother give two sh*ts about these poor kids if there wasn’t so much money involved? I would like to see the money taken out of the equation. Or, as many of you have suggested, Charlie should just pay these drifters $60k a month if Brooke will sign away custody.
The problem is that no one is willing to step up for the boys and Charlie certainly isn’t going to do it. (Not that he’s capable of being a competent father by any means.) Denise did all she could and now there’s no other option for Max and Bob. I just really hope she’s sober, but these pictures tell a different story. Look at how the nanny is glaring at Brooke.
Update: Radar is reporting that Brooke has agreed to have the twins tested for fetal alcohol syndrome. Remember she went to rehab twice while she was pregnant. You know that she agreed to the tests so that she could get her hands on the custody money. She’s already blocked Denise Richards’ attempts to have the twins professionally evaluated so they can get help.
photo credit: FameFlynet
This is all about the money. End of story.
Good luck to those children. They are definitely gonna need it.
I wonder if all these people do not earn money themselves?!
Sure, the brother should get support when he cares for them permanently, but he just moved in and the first thing to ask is for money? Sick people.
Great. She is willing to have them tested for FAS.
How about the neurological damage due to the hard drugs she was taking during pregnancy?
How about RANDOM drug testing for Brooke; twice a week instead of twice per month; she has nothing to fear since she claims to be clean, right? (Have her pay for the increased surveillance as part of the agreement. They can most definitely afford it.)
Child Protective Services should do a h*ll of a lot more to live up to it’s name….
I don’t know that the brother will care for the boys. I think the brother has a family of his own and is only helping out until Christmas.
I think at Christmas she is scheduled to get custody. Yuck
Sadly true.
These reports make it seem like the only thing Scott Mueller wanted was the money. When the paperwork is filed, there are numerous requirements and contingencies. The Child support payments are just one of many but it’s the only thing we, the public, hear about. Charlie can certainly afford these payments, even if school tuition is already covered. Isn’t it obvious that Brooke and her brother require a pretty hefty security team just to keep the paps at bay? Furthermore, psychiatry visits are going to cost a bundle. The cost of living in LA is sky high. I think people should stop obsessing about the money and thinking that this is all the guardians are after.
I do not agree because if Brook had any concern for what is in her children’s best interests she would have allowed Denise to start help with professionals. Reportedly Brook objected to Denise’s doctor’s recommendation, yet never offered any alternative names for professional help. Note- the court nor child services insisted therapy be part of the custody arrangement or parenting counseling. Complete failure on their part.
Brook’s brother wants the money- in addition to what Charlie will pay Brook for child support. Sounds more like Charlie is a money tree for Brook and nothing more imo. I do not care how much money Charlie has- he pays support plus expenses for all his children let Brook’s portion go to her brother-? No the money is specifically for the boys’ child support & NOT payment for services.
Decloo: From what I’ve read, Charlie pays for everything already. School tuition, childcare, medical bills, etc. He even bought Brooke a house. I believe the kids travel with some sort of security so I’d guess Charlie is also paying for that. Denise even stated in her letter that she had to buy the boys all new clothes because their clothes didn’t fit, which she somehow did, without requesting extra child support and which Brooke somehow couldn’t do, even with $55,000/month.
How about the judge offers Brooke and her brother custody, but no money beyond expenses solely for the kids? I suspect their true colours would show pretty darn quick. Charlie’s are already painfully apparent.
On the plus side, wolf numbers appear to have stabilised in the USA’s national parks, so there’s a chance these boys may yet find a better family environment…
Yeah, I think the wolves would do a better job.
Both “parents” are incompetent.
Seriously, I wouldn’t want either of those two as parents for the boys. Charlie Sheen is hardly as pure as the driven snow so it’s more than a little ridiculous for him to be tossing around these allegations about Brooke (who is obv no angel). I feel bad for the kids, no wonder they’re acting out if they’re stuck in that kind of a circus.
I was going to say the same. They should need to produce receipts for all expenses and get nothing beyond money solely for the boys. Except for Denise, all involved make me sick.
These poor boys.
“They should need to produce receipts for all expenses and get nothing beyond money solely for the boys.” That’s exactly what I was thinking!
Nice idea in theory but it never works that way in real life.
I think it is based in the idea that if one parent is wealthy then the offspring have the expectation to live is a prosperous environment.
That is the benefit a woman has of bearing the child of a wealthy man.
Now, when the woman actually gives a damn about the child and provides adequate care, then it is not too much of an issue. It is an issue when the woman could give a crap about the kid……
Put it this way: she has a whopping 14 more years of Charlie’s money. After that mommy is on her own. And then it will be a matter of her manipulating her adult children for their trust fund money. And she can’t get leverage in court for that.
This,of course is assuming that nobody dies in the next 14 years. Which is not a safe assumption by any stretch.
If there is a bigger stronger word than “tragic” — that is the word I am thinking.
I’m sure they already have to do this.
Not passing the buck, but where is sheens family in all this?
Brooke seems more in this for the money than the wellbeing of her boys. Because if she had their best interests at heart, she would admit she continues to have a drug problem and find someone actually suitable to take care of them.
Urgh!
My thoughts exactly.
And testing the boys for fetal alcohol syndrome will do SQUAT as she was in rehab (twice) for crystal meth addiciton while pregnant.
Charlie shouldn’t be able to abdicate his parental responsibilities just because he can throw money at the situation. Why can’t they get some reputable help for Brooke, who will blow the whistle if she’s drugging? I see no reason why SHE shouldn’t be supervised, after repeatedly proving herself incapable. If you have nothing to hide, so big deal. But, when you’ve been in rehab 21 times and you are released back to your $55K; chances are she will be mainlining something soon.
Breaks my heart for these poor boys, being bounced around. It seemed like Denise was their chance at being in a normal home, someplace they were actually wanted & welcome. I can’t believe that no one have more weight to her statement. One parent or the other – it’s a case of “best of the worst.”
Jaqueline — because Brooke is an adult.
This is not a policed society where adults are monitored like that.
And you cannot “make” someone “go” to rehab. Addiction does not work like that. It has to come from with that person. And she just does not have that drive.
I can only think that this will end with her overdose death. I just hope that she can take her money and hire someone to raise her children properly while she stays the hell out of the way. (Aka– the Courtney Love Method)
As part of her agreement with DCFS, Brooke has to submit to mandatory drug testing, so if she is using, it will be noted.
True, but only twice a month. She should be doing weekly.
If her drug tests were random, not scheduled & more frequent than twice a month, then yes she would get caught if she was using. She’s not going to with a mere two scheduled tests a month, any moron can pass urine tests & not be clean. If this was someone without money, there is no way they would be getting their kids back after being in rehab 21 times in the past few years after only a few months of sobriety & 6 months clean doesn’t cut it. If she is clean. I doubt she is & $55,000 a month is a strong motivator to keep up the appearance.
The mere fact she is blocking an evaluation of her twins is grounds to take them away. It would happen to you or me in this situation.
I’ve read that Brooke’s drug of choice (can’t remember which one that is) doesn’t stay in your system very long so she could still be using frequently but still passing semimonthly drug testing, especially if the tests aren’t random.
Its a shame to say, but unless something utterly terrible happens to those boys from obvious violence or neglect, they will probably stay with their mother. It sad they’ll probably grow up angry, and feeling unwanted. Society thanks you DCFS pfhhh
You’re right… but to add to that, even with obvious violence or neglect, they would probably still stay with the mother (especially since the father is pretty much out of the picture). I have a friend who is a social worker w/in the system and it’s tragic how the system “works”. Mothers are given too many chances and too many rights that they don’t deserve, just because they gave birth.
I agree! Why doesn’t Charlie offer Brooke a huge sum of money to sign away her parental rights. Of course, maybe he has, and it was turned down. I totally agree that neither Brooke or Charlie are capable of caring for those poor boys, but I also think that just because you are an addict doesn’t mean you don’t love your children. I’m sure Brooke loves those boys, I just wish she loved them enough to get clean, or to let them go to a loving home. Unfortunately, I don’t think this will happen. Statistically, relapse is in her future, and then what will happen to those children…I doubt Denise will take them back again…
Because no matter how much money he give her as a pay off it’s never going to be enough, she always going to come back for more.
Drug money simply put. There is no way she’s going to give up a steady monthly paycheck to get drugs for a one time payment. She’d blow through that in less than a month or so and then she’d be whining about Charlie stealing her kids and fighting to get them back.
What an awful mess for these 2 little boys. So it’s taking a week to transition the boys from Denise? That leaves 2 weeks until Brooke gets custody again? Scott demanded the 55grand before they left the courthouse, and he’s no where in site? Wow! I read the day Charlie married her she was paid 500grand? It seems money is her motivator? Sad.
I think Brooke has the typical manipulative addict personality, and at this point WINNING and sticking it to Denise (who is surely attempting to steal her children) is just as important as getting her kids back.
I wish could be required to have a 24 hour sober coach – I’m assuming they’re effective. And it seems to me she should be going to NA meetings instead of pretending she just has the more glamorous alcohol problem.
One look at these pics tells you their mother is the furthest thing from sober.
Those kids would be better raised in a dog pound, or by wolves as previously suggested.
Poor babies smh.
I’m not really sure if these pics show that she isn’t sober. Just like what the author wrote, “Is her face just permanently stuck like that after years of drug abuse?”
I would assume so, to be honest. Just like an alcoholic, who has abused alcohol for years, you can see the affects on their face. Some men who have been alcohol free for 10+ years still have the ruddy face (especially in the nose), the weird skin, the jaundiced eyes, etc. For me, as an alcoholic who has been alcohol free for about 18 months (I know, it isn’t that long and I can’t really speak for anything recovery related), you can still see the affects of my alcohol abuse and I was abusing for 2 years. My face (and my eyes, especially) constantly looks like I’m coming off of a 5-day bender.
While I’m not 100% sure what hard drugs would do to you, I would guess that if alcohol can screw up your face that much after being clean, drugs would have the same effect. I’ve met addicts in recovery who were clean of the hard drug of their choice (meth, heroin, cocaine, etc) for a while, and they constantly look and act like they are tweaking hard all the time.
That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Brooke’s years of hard drug use is just making her look and act crackie, even if she is sober (which she very well may be right now). However I don’t have much hope for her sobriety – this is obviously a money grab, and you can tell that she wasn’t really willing to become and stay sober, just from the fact that she left a rehab facility because they wanted her to do chores. If you have hit your personal bottom, and you really want to become sober, you will do whatever the hell a sponsor or a rehab employee tells you because you know you have to do whatever it takes to acheive sobriety.
Props to you Katy. You’ve shown real strength. Alcoholism is a disease I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
Brooke should just go to hell, using her kids to get money..what a .. no, I don’t even have a fitting insult for her. She’s just the worse.
it’s amazing that the only person who seems to really care about these kids is the father’s exwife! Denise went above and beyond what a lot of women would do. Brooke is garbage, pure garbage. At least Charlie admits he’s useless. But this scheming crackhead sacrificing the health of her children for her addiction is disgusting. I hope these boys get the help they obviously need.
I keep reading that–that Charlie isn’t as bad because “at least he admits he’s useless.” I just don’t understand that logic–I can claim I’m useless at washing dishes, but the things still have to be cleaned because I dirtied them myself. Simple responsibility. Charlie could keep his drugs and women away from his kids and hire a reputable nanny. He could–he has enough money. The fact is that he has as little self-control as Brooke has, so those kids simply do not have any good options since neither parent is willing to shelter them from the shitstorms they prefer to live in. And, I say this again–with that much money, both parents could still party to a certain degree if they limited it to after the children’s bedtime, being sure to have stable and caring staff available for the boys, as I’m certain they both have homes large enough to remove themselves from the boys’ immediate vicinity.
“How about the judge offers Brooke and her brother custody, but no money beyond expenses solely for the kids? I suspect their true colours would show pretty darn quick….”
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I have said many times that if Brooke had to submit receipts proving where the money was going… in order to get her check each month… things would be a lot different.
And since this “brother” of hers is being made the new guardian… I can assume he has no j.o.b. or means to support him self. So him and Brooke will really need that $55K a month to maintain their lifestyle. And maybe throw a couple sandwiches at the kids once a day.
According to reports he does have a job and kids of his own.
My question is how long until he beats feet back to his real life leaving these kids with Brooke while still pretending to be the guardian.
I think it speaks very highly of Scott that he is willing to uproot his life and take custody of the kids while living with Brooke. This allows her to be with them until she can prove that she is capable of taking custody on her own. I don’t get all the shade thrown at Scott. He’s the only responsible person stepping up here. Please don’t reply to this comment saying he only wants the money. Brooke’s family is loaded.
What a mess. You know they all live within walking distance of each other. Sadly, there should be a wealth of support and extended family for these kids, but Brooke has a classic druggie mentality. She will only allow those boys to be used, not to be loved or cared for.
And Charlie is clearly incapable/unwilling to parent these children full time. So sad.
I haven’t been following this story that closely. Is there a reason Charlie can’t take care of them? Was he deemed unfit?
I’m pretty sure Charlie has deemed himself unfit to care for the boys. It sucks that he won’t step up to the plate but honestly at this point I don’t think he even could of he wanted to.
Charlie is no we’re never mentally capable to take care of those boys and he know that. At less he self aware enough to not want to mess up his boys more then what they already are.
In Denise’s letter she says she is the court-approved monitor for Charlie’s contact with the children – he’s only allowed supervised visitation, too. Given his track record is worse than Brooke’s, as he has a lot of relationship violence recorded with various women, I can’t say I’m surprised.
I agree if Charlie would pay her off, she’d drop the custody battle. And gross as it is, that might be the best option for those kids.
It really pisses me off that Charlie declares himself a loving father and complains about everyone else raising his kids, but hasn’t ever made any attempt to clean up his own life in order to take custody of them himself. A judge might never go for it, but you’d think he’d at least try, since Brooke is so dangerous – get rid of the whores and drugs, get psychiatric treatment, hire full time help for the kids.
Lucy — really excellent point, but not realistic.
Charlie has a lot of stuff on his plate. On top of bad addictions he has some nasty bipolar stuff going on.
If just the love that one has for their child were sufficient to induce sobriety, NO ONE would be a using addict.
Bob and Max are his youngest children ( if you ignore the rumors of Elouise’s paternity).
His prior baby mamas have been loving and responsible. After a good 30 year run of serious addiction, Charlie finds himself in a position where he needs to step up to the plate.
And sadly, I do not think he is capable. I don’t think he is even going to attempt to try.
I agree he’s got a lot of issues and it would not be ideal, but it’s the lack of trying that bothers me. He’s just washed his hands of the whole thing, and is now sitting back and criticizing everyone else.
I don’t think she would. I think she knows she would blow–literally, blow–through a lump sum in a matter of months, no matter how large. At least this way, she gets a steady $55,000 in drug money for the next 14 years.
I think your point is very realistic, Lucy2. In fact, Charlie Sheen is the worst case of “pot calling the kettle black” I’ve ever encountered. The very least he could do for ALL of his kids is to stop attacking their mothers in the press and on social media. The very least. He certainly has enough money to let his lawyers do the talking for him. And he has enough money to hire someone to take care of his social media and monitor his behavior so that it’s clear he is taking his meds, assuming he has actually been diagnosed as bipolar.
This.
I believe that there is a valid reason why nobody is willing to step up to take responsibility for these kids. It’s a lifetime curse to deal with kids with behavioral problems, accompanied by an organic damage of nervous system. This is a regular consequence of parental drug abuse during gestational period and earlier. Since apparently, kids have no heroes around them, I hope that at least some of money would be spent for guardians and nanny, specially trained to take care of kids with such type of problems. I hope that they get some sort of specialized help at school as well and that they would get medical assistance. Charlie should pay for all of this but governmental officials need to monitor that kids get all sort of professional help. Still, there is a scientific evidence that any family, even as bad as Brook & Co. is better than foster house.
Please link to this “scientific evidence”. There are so many good people out there who can’t have kids and are not drug addicts or child abusers. If the system wasn’t so stacked against foster parents (for example – not letting Denise get the boys help they obviously need because their crazy junkie bio mother says no), more people would consider it. Biology doesn’t mean shit.
Denise does NOT want these kids on a full-time basis. She gave it a try, she did her best and she admitted herself that she is not fit for an adoption of kids with sociopath tendencies. Why don’t you go and re-read her letter and not just someone else’s narrative? …
I’m sorry but best intentions of good people are not all you need to take care of such kids. No, just love would not save them.
The letter stated that when Denise tried to get them help from the psychiatrist their pediatrician recommended, Brooke blocked that doctor and insisted they get a new pediatrician, but has yet to name a new pediatrician. How can you effectively parent when your hands are tied by an unfit junkie?
Yes, and? She uses it to explain why she wants them out of her house immediately rather than waiting 3 months until Christmas.
It just has so happened that I know many families that adopted kids with similar problems and their life is a living battle. Denise clearly stated that while she loves them and cares for them, she does not want this battle for her family. And who would blame her? Not me.
Also, as you said, it will take more than love to save them. You’re right. They need structure, stability, and patience, and methheads who have flunked out of rehab 20 times aren’t known for that. They are more likely to find that with a sober foster family. I’m tired of the sanctification of birth mothers. If giving birth/impregnating someone made people good, CPS wouldn’t exist.
Yours may be an unpopular opinion but closer to the truth than the simplistic tale span by the tabloids.
I dont think Brooke is solely driven by the cash. I think she does love those kids in her own drug-addict way. I have zero doubt that Charlies people have offered Go-Away Cash. And even if he hadnt, I am sure that he would be ranting about it if she had even offered that as an alternative.
Its also telling that none of Sheens/Estevezs have stepped up. Its not like they cant afford massive help with those boys. It does seem that the Muellers care more. Money may be a motivation but I dont buy the tabloid narrative that this is a black and white case. Their dad is a very wealthy man, theres no reason why he shouldnt be required to ensure that they have every advantage he can give. If he wasnt such a loser, this drama wouldnt be playing out anyway.
I agree whole-heartedly. I’m sure the cost of therapy and any other expenses are adjusted and relative to the area, and life style, in which they live. I don’t understand why it’s abhorrent to request an amount that was already a judgement granted by the court. Why should the brother take on the kids for free, or look for less money? Denise was likely already getting money from Charlie for the girls, and no one knows how much she was getting on the sly, if any. I’m sure part of the narration of “Denise isn’t asking for money” was also a way for Charlie to justify a reduction in judgement, aside from whatever altruistic motivation she had. I’d bet that she was getting something from Charlie undeclared, I can’t prove it, but don’t doubt it.
Why isn’t anyone questioning the mercenary element of Charlie bitching about paying that support? He isn’t caring for the kids, so he is as much of a gold digger as the rest. He wants his money for his own selfish purposes even though he had kids that he has no intention of raising himself.
I’m inclined to agree with that, Another Nina. I absolutely believe that both these parents have enough money to hire a staff that will properly care for and monitor these kids. They could also limit their more excessive behavior to after the kids have gone to bed for the night. In effect, they are rich enough to ensure their kids are properly cared for AND for each of the parents to still have their little lurid lifestyles. Of course, better if they hadn’t had kids, especially together, but you can’t put them back in once they are out, so you have to figure out how to best deal with the responsibility.
So sad these kids are at the mercy of money hungry addicts. Denise was the only person who truly cared about them and was not getting an extra cent for taking care of them, but I totally understand her not wanting to have them in her home anymore. Brooke’s brother having the nerve to ask for so much money… Wow. This is all about the money, yet that is not enough for Charlie Sheen to get his act together and be there for his boys.
So sad. Because of the chemical issues they faced in the womb and whatever horrors they have experienced while with their biological parents, these boys would be a challenge to raise in the best of circumstances. But with no prospect of psychiatric help and increasing violence? I don’t blame Denise at all for protecting her daughters. It’s too sad. You can’t help people who won’t put the best interests of their kids first.
People who won’t put the best interests of their kids first don’t deserve children. Those who actively harm their children through their actions or inactions, should be horsewhipped.
I can’t seem to stop myself from clicking on these disgusting people. Damn you, train wreck. Those poor kids.
Her poor boys will never get the help they desperately need. Cus any therapist will see that there mother is the issue and would probably not recommend custody to Brooke to the court and that’s means bye bye fat check everymonth. I thought she was a socialite I thought she has her own money. She shouldn’t need Charlie’s money if she’s rich already.
Brooke is not rich though her family is. Clearly they don’t give her money because she is an addict. Charlie is loaded and is the father of those kids. Whether she needs the money or not is irrelevant. By court order he needs to pay child support.
Just take away completely all money. And then see how much she and her brother would want to care for kids. They will give them back in 3 months. Also if those kids are really little selfish brats then they deserve little dose of reality in their life. Without all those money and rich homes, food and stuff. They should all try to live without Sheens 55 000 a month.
And don’t give brother a cent. You know when some family (mom and dad) dies in car crash then their sisters or brothers take their nephews in their homes and raise them as their own. And no one is paying them 55 000 a months for it. Just say to brother: “You wanted kids so much? Take care of them. No money. If you can’t care of them then government will take them away and take care of them on Charlies 55 000”.
Brother will give them back in 2 weeks.
Those boys are damaged & need special attention & care. That doesn’t make them “brats”
Are you seriously blaming those children for their actions? Seriously? The hell is the matter with you?
Yes, those 3 year olds who have been passed around, most likely witnessed drug use, manipulated, and face years of problems much grater than most of is can imagine coupled with the possibility of developmental issues deserve a dose of reality. Those assholes.
Are you serious? I don’t say this much,or ever really, but shame on you.
How do you know that it is only for the money? Yes Brooke is an ex-drug addict, but that doesn´t mean she is a bad person and doesn´t love her kids. When someone is finally sober he/she is another person and sees the world in a new light. Give her and the twins this last chance.
Why are people so crazy about the 55k? As ex-wife she gets money from Charlie either way. These boys are Charlie´s sons. He does not want custody for them but thinks it is ok that his boys live with someone other FOR FREE? Denise got a new villa from Charlie for taking the boys and gets money from him for the girls. Come on, the twins are sons of a millionaire and i´m sure he wants them to live rich. 55k is nothing for Sheen. He does not want to take care for them so his only responsibility is to pay for their upkeep. Asking for the money is no crime, it´s a right.
I know, I don’t get it either. If he didn’t behave without impulse control, like such a douche nozzle petulant child, they wouldn’t be going back to the mother. He doesn’t get to unilaterally decide who takes his children, and dictate how much he is *willing* to pay for that service. It’s a joke that he calls himself a “loving father” at this point. By his own actions, he pushed the court in the direction of this decision.
I agree. It burns me up that he’d call himself a “loving father.” That may be his most delusional statement yet. A loving father would try to be a stable presence in his kids’ lives to counteract the madness from having a mom struggling with addiction. A loving father wouldn’t air the dirty laundry all over twitter. Wouldn’t insult the judge. Would be seeking help for himself so he can be a positive influence. He doesn’t get to decide who cares for his children- but he can do like Brooke and try to do the things the court wants to see so that HE can have them for some of the time. He is the worst.
Brook has had 22 chance in the last 4 years how many more dose she need? And you can’t tell me Brook is sober just look at those pictures. If she cared about those boys so much why didn’t she allow Denise to get the boys the help they need? And why is it that every time they sent the night at her house did the twins acts up at school and Denise house the fallowing day.
Brooke may not have unilaterally stymied the boys’ chance to see a shrink. It may be that they did not agree on who the boys would see. It would make sense that Brooke would want the boys to go to a neutral doctor and maybe not one that was chosen by Charlie/denise. I’m sure it was an over-simplification for Denise to say that Brooke blocked their getting help. As for the overnight visits–kids will act up whenever their routine is interrupted. That could be sleepovers with Brooke, Charlie (God forbid!) or friends’ houses. I think it was probably the instability of the back and forth arrangement and not contact with their mother that screwed the boys up.
Well, testing for fetal alcohol syndrome is a good start and will hopefully lead to other assessments. So if Brooke really has agreed to that, it’s a good sign. Previously she was blocking the assessment recommended by the boys’ pediatrician and even fired the pediatrician (who she had picked out herself, not Denise) and refused for months to choose an alternative. So by law, the boys were in medical limbo. Both Denise and any doctor would have been in major trouble if the boys were taken to anyone not authorized by Brooke except an Emergency Room I suppose. The problem was not a dispute about which doctor, as some have suggested. The problem was that Brooke refused to authorize any doctor for both routine medical care and psych assessment. Denise had gone to the specialist recommended by Brooke’s original pediatrician, and the specialist wanted to evaluate them partly because he or she had doubts that the problem was just bad reaction to transitions between homes. A full assessment is really needed.
On a lighter note- don’t those boys look like Charlie’s Mini Me’s in that top photo?
It is not that I am against her getting her children back. It is the fact that she does not have a year of sobriety under her belt yet. She is 7 months sober, 3 of those months were spent in a rehab center. So in reality she is 4 months sober. She has twice monthly drug test, how about weekly? How about parenting classes and mandatory therapy for her and children.
I just think that she needs to have more sober time under her belt at the very least a full year, she should have to prove she has the best interest of the children in mind and that is making sure they are getting adequate help, have a pediatrician, go to counseling.
Unfortunately her actions are still those of an addict, blocking help, being hostile with those trying to help, denying access to the child (one of the most telling things in Denise full letter is that Brooke denied access to the children to Charlies family).
Until her actions change I think most everyone will be waiting for her to relapse.
I do hope she succeeds and I do hope someone gets it through her head that the boys need help.
Susu,
This woman has had years of “last chances”. I think that when the point is reached in which a dog would be permanently removed from a household – it’s time to remove the kids. There is documentation that the children are becoming increasingly disturbed with each visit, and pics that imply neglect if not abuse.
So when does her last chance end? Unfortunately, the death of one of the boys in her care does not guarantee the removal of the other. There are untold numbers of children whose deaths have been the result of their parent’s last chance. At some point the children’s safety should eclipse her ownership (I use that word deliberately).
The 55K thing–for me, it’s because she fought tooth and nail to keep the money even while she was in rehab and didn’t have custody of the kids. If the money wasn’t an issue, she wouldn’t have wanted it then; she would have been content to wait until she was out of rehab and could get her kids back.
As far as chances go, this woman has had 20+ chances to get sober. A few months out of rehab is NOT enough time to prove you’ve changed and create a stable environment for troubled kids. The first few months after rehab are very fragile, with a huge chance of relapse while going back into your prior environment. Even if she does love her kids (and I’m sure some part of her does), there’s no way in which this is good for them.
If Charlie has rejected the idea of himself stepping up as a father and being fit to take them he needs to step off the twitter. But where the hell is his family. I don’t blame them for wanting to stay the hell away but think of the children!
This is a messed up situation. Brooke & her brother is only in it for the money, he probably doesnt have a job & a family of his own, if he did, he won’t uproot his entire life to move in with his messed up sister to care for her kids. If she cares about her kids, she’ll clean up her act & then get them back & If he cares about them, he’ll get her help. They’re gonna mess this up really bad so I hope they do it sooner rather than later before any permanent damage is done to the boys.. BTW, I know that Charlie is an unfit father who cant care for the boys except financially & he knows it too so kudos to him for trying to get them help & for voicing out his concerns even with the gag order, now when everything goes to hell (which it will), no one can accuse him of not trying.
Voicing his concerns? Like ridiculing a sitting judge on twitter, who is making important decisions about his kids? That is about Charlie’s ego, and being “right” and “winning”. That’s not the way a mature or sane person approaches a serious situation. He is doing the same shite he did with Chuck Lorre.
I’m sorry I ever made the statement that he is self-aware, it seems to have gotten legs, because now I see he is merely selfish, with no mirrors in his house, so to speak.
I promise this is my last post on the subject, CB.
Of course he did so that his sister and he can sit around and do nothing but drugs day in and day out on some one else’s dime. Sickening.
That’s a ridiculous statement. Scott Mueller is a married father with a steady job.
I have just jacked anus-brain as my new fav cuss word..bwahaha
Those twins have crack and meth exposure too. Those poor children.
Any pharmaceuticals that pop up during a drug screen will prompt the MRO to contact the subject of the drug test that they need to provide documentation (i.e., a script) that justifies the presence of said medications in the system. If a doctor is giving Mueller a prescription, those can’t be held against her in a tox screen. If she has anything in her system without a doctor’s script, then she will have a problem.
Charlie Sheen is an obscenely wealthy man. He could give Brooke a huge lump sum payment to go away without it making as much as a dent in his bank account. Then he could get the best neurological testing done and psychological treatment so these boys could be rehabilitated. Having Denise as a stabilizing “mother” figure in their lives seemed to be their only hope.
But noooo, Charlie has to go apeshit and start stupid twitter wars insulting the authorities which created the situation where the boys are now back in the jaws of the lion. Way to go Charlie, can’t you for once just put your giant ego away and work towards what’s best for your children?? He and Brooke shouldn’t have been allowed to breed.
I agree, Charlie has the money and the resources to properly care for himself- get clean and step up. But he won’t. I don’t get all the people giving kudos to him for staying away. He is not doing that because he is “self-aware” he is not stepping up because he doesn’t want to .. he doesn’t want those kids full-time..
And .. Charlie has the resources to get those boys the best care, the best doctors, schools, tutors etc.. so why hasn’t he? Because he is a drug addict, he is self centered and doesn’t care about anyone but himself.
Because BOTH parents need to sign off on getting the boys treatment. He has already agreed but Brooke is refusing. It doesn’t matter how much money he has, unless he has sole legal custody making him able to make all those decisions by himself, he can’t do anything without Brooke’s permission.
I believe that Charlie should be in rehab and working on getting his own personal life in order instead of complaining, but at least he is cognizant of the fact that his kids need a safe, stable environment and Brooke’s home is not it.
my ex was a drug addict on probation and had to submit to random drug testing and his results were all shady so they put a patch on him- it stayed on for a week, it had something to do with sweat excretion and they could tell if it had been tampered with. within two weeks of being patched he was back to prison. there are ways around drug testing, not with this thing and with her history i can’t believe random biweekly urine testing is adequate.
They can stick a patch on you like a constant monitor???
Wow. Did not know that. Interesting
Brooke will not be able to handle those kids. She is going to start handing them off to whomever she can, because she was never meant to be a mother and certainly won’t be able to handle the two hurricanes she created. Between the toxic cocktails they received while she was pregnant, and the awful environment they grew up in, and the fact that BOTH parents are useless addicts, these poor boys may never stand a chance.
I don’t think she can either and, further, it could be so stressful that she’ll relapse and lose them.
Bringing up twins is hard work, bringing up twins with RAD would be incredibly difficult. That family will implode, which is just awful. Poor boys.
they don’t have RAD, they have sociopath episodes
I don’t understand why the judge can’t make an immediate full physical & psychiatric evaluation a condition of Brooke & her brother getting custody. It’s obvious that these kids are going to require a lot of special care. Why allow Brooke to drag her feet on this?
If this was a non-wealthy/celebrity couple the kids would be put in foster care.
Unfortunately not. The system is set up to return kids to their biological parents as much as possible, and since the system is so overloaded with children and so short of homes to put them in, they wind up being returned over and over again.
Even in cases where people are willing to take the kids, the system sometimes returns them to the abusive environment against all common sense. (Personal experience speaking here.)
This is a terrible situation and I think Brooke is not capable of caring for kids. However, the comments about the photos are a big stretch. I really don’t see the nanny ‘glaring at Brooke’ nor do I see Brooke having ‘dead eyes’ or whatever. They both appear fine in these photos to me.
For some reason the comments aren’t loading so this might have already been commented on but TMZ had a timeline that showed when Brooke was getting the $55,000 she was fine with Denise taking care of the boys, even praising Denise and cooperating. After Charlie had her support lowered to $25,000 (not sure on amount), Brooke started trying to get the boys back and started complaining about Denise. She just wants the cash.
I don’t know if they do this but if the courts can impose something on her, I say if she ends up in rehab again (or when she ends up in rehab…), she has to give up custody of the boys and give up the cash.
I wonder what will happen the next time Brooke starts using? We all know she will.
I’ve heard several commenters mention Fetal Alcohol and I really don’t see it. I was just wondering what about the way the boys looks says fetal alcohol?
Maybe people are mentioning Fetal Alcohol because of the boys behavior?? I don’t know – a lot of times there are physical characteristics but there are a bunch of mental ones as well.
I have heard people say they have the fetal alcohol syndrome “look,” and I just don’t see it. Don’t get me wrong, they clearly have problems but I don’t think fetal alcohol syndrome is one of them.
It is only around 10% of sufferers who get the unfortunate physical “look” of fetal alcohol syndrome, the rest have the mental health and behavioral issues alone.
This makes it extremely difficult to diagnose, and it is often overlooked sadly. Or misdiagnosed as ADHD etc.
These poor children, they literally have nowhere to go…I’m worried for them, I hope Denise finds a way to take them back, it’s their one shot.
At least one-quarter and preferably one-third of the support money should be placed in trust for the 2 boys, where neither parent could EVER touch the funds, and the boys themselves could not collect the funds until they were 21 or 25. At age 18, they could draw down some of the money to pay for college tuition, but they could not touch the rest until they were at least 21 if not older.
Well, RadarOnline is reporting Brooke tested positive for Adderall. But that’s OK (even though she we to rehab for it) because she’s got a prescription.
I’m a little confused here – Scott is married with two kids, so he’s leaving them at home while he moves into Brooke’s house? Is he only the twins’ guardian for a couple of weeks, then?
Yes, her brother is only a temporary guardian. I think DCFS had a plan to slowly transition the boys back to their mother’s care, although now there is nothing slow about it. I don’t know if the plan was for Brooke to be a full-time mother after the transition or if she was just going to have more visitation but either way that doesn’t matter now since the boys will be living with her.
And I’m floored that the court is letting her get away with a failed drug test, even if she had a prescription (for Adderall). Adderall is a super addictive drug (it’s classified as a controlled substance because of that) and she has been in rehab for snorting Adderall. She must be doctor shopping because no ethical doctor would give an addict of any type a prescription for Adderall. If she truly has ADHD there are other drugs that are not amphetamine-based that could help her symptoms.
Yeah, looks like she’s really changed this time and is doing everything she can to stay clean for her boys. What a dumbass.
Beginning to wonder if Miley Cyrus might make a better mum to these kids?
I hope Charlie has, or gets, a vasectomy before he inflicts this kind of horrible life on any more children. In my opinion Charlie is an over-indulged slacker, Brooke is a junkie to the bone and her brother is strictly a grifter. Those poor little boys don’t stand a chance.. The people who should protect them, their father and mother, only care about themselves, first, last and foremost.
$55 K seems to be the number that Brooke was getting so it sounds like he’s just asking for the same amount. This whole situation is awful.
This whole situation is absolutely disgusting. Two self absorbed drug addicts who shouldn’t even be allowed to care for a pet rock are able to have and ruin the lives of innocent children while millions of loving, stable couples suffer with infertility and can’t conceive without undergoing expensive, time consuming, and emotionally and physically painful fertility treatments, sometimes for years and sometimes with nothing to show for it, cannot. It’s makes me sick.